Got mine derestricted to 35kmhr You can attack everything and it not run cut out on you just when you need it in the single track so much fun ( Private land use only ) I use the multiple levels of assistance profile. Fine Tune Profile! I change between assistant levels just like you do with gears. Have never even bothered with the other Profile you all use eco, trail, boost Heaps fun
07:00 doesn't look like the motor stays on. They really botched it with the backpedal cancel. Bosch has had it right for 3 years now and they still managed to screw it up. Incredible. On Bosch you can backpedal after a pedal stroke after the bottom all the way around to switch the pull to the other foot. So after right foot pull, crank the left all the way around on top and pull on left while motor stays on on nearly a full rotation of the cranks. On this motor you can't even keep cranking one foot because of the cancel. Boggles the mind who makes these decisions.
@@S14AA In what situation would you ever want to cancel the overrun by backpedaling? That's when you need the overrun the most when you are cranking back to time pedal strokes... Did you think at all what you are saying or just say something sounds good because it exists without thinking at all?
@@rawmancemtb well when you have alot of overrun and you get pushed into something or into a switch back, for exaple on switch backs i switch down a power mode so there is less over run, lets say you hop up a rock ledge but then you need to bounce the bike around or trac stand straight away how do you do that when the back is still driving ? and in your comment you talk about changing which foot is cranking once the pedal gets to the bottom of the stroke if you can get the pedal to the bottom you can keep spinning it ? although unless there is something on the other side then you could only take 1 pedal all the way down then yes being able to turn back half a turn could be usefull but my then you should be up the edge and can reset ? the only time i see you point is up a rut where its long and you cant spin the pedals
@@S14AA You just use brakes to stop the overrun... Needing overrun is something that happens constantly. I've never thought I wouldn't want overrun in any scenario. Have you ever tried to to go fast on a trail? Your comment seems from someone who has never pedaled a moderately technical trail at any effort and is theorizing what it might be like. No you absolutely can't just keep pedaling when you cranking back to change the timing to not smash the pedals into rocks. Your comment makes no sense.
You mention there’s a new ep801 display that shows battery percentage? I have the ep801 but it has the updated display (from the ep8) that only shows 5 battery bars….. if this is right, do you know if you can update the display only? Re: adjusting the settings, I believe Shimano are updating the app that will allow users to change the setting in the autumn. Thanks for the vid - very useful!
@@alexbiketester Great video. I have a question about the battery percentage. So far I can only see where this display shows 10 bars not an actual percentage number. Is that correct? And do you know which bikes you can swap the display out with? I have a Pivot Shuttle LT (2024) with the 750 battery. Would love to get a slightly better display for this bike. Thanks for you very informative videos.
I have ep8 motor and hate that batt display and the same way it can be updated with ep801 display, either way there is not wahoo app or computer that can show batt % for the peace of mind
Crazy how behind shimano are on nearly all their MTB products including their motors, I absolutely cannot stand the Shimano 801 motor, The 3 bikes I've tried have rattled like a tin can full of bolts(guess you got lucky), less power is frustrating when jumping off a bosch or a befang motor. IT's a damn shame as several good riding bikes have it installed.... exactly why Ebike motors should have a stand bolt pattern so you can dump shimano stuff for bosch, lots of brands have changed away from shimano which is fantastic. My new Marin ebike is soooooo good.
My Nukeproof Megawatt's Ep801 motor is an Absolute monster unit and with the update I smash my friends Bosch CX and my other mate's Brose so I think you must have just been really unlucky!!😞🤟 P.s Got to agree......the Marin is a really ugly bike they should stick to dirt jumpers.🙌
Got mine derestricted to 35kmhr
You can attack everything and it not run cut out on you just when you need it in the single track so much fun ( Private land use only )
I use the multiple levels of assistance profile.
Fine Tune Profile!
I change between assistant levels just like you do with gears.
Have never even bothered with the other Profile you all use eco, trail, boost
Heaps fun
07:00 doesn't look like the motor stays on. They really botched it with the backpedal cancel. Bosch has had it right for 3 years now and they still managed to screw it up. Incredible. On Bosch you can backpedal after a pedal stroke after the bottom all the way around to switch the pull to the other foot. So after right foot pull, crank the left all the way around on top and pull on left while motor stays on on nearly a full rotation of the cranks. On this motor you can't even keep cranking one foot because of the cancel. Boggles the mind who makes these decisions.
hence why the Bosch has marginally more power still.
I think the cancel is good maybe they could have option to enable disabled added ?
@@S14AA In what situation would you ever want to cancel the overrun by backpedaling? That's when you need the overrun the most when you are cranking back to time pedal strokes... Did you think at all what you are saying or just say something sounds good because it exists without thinking at all?
@@rawmancemtb well when you have alot of overrun and you get pushed into something or into a switch back, for exaple on switch backs i switch down a power mode so there is less over run, lets say you hop up a rock ledge but then you need to bounce the bike around or trac stand straight away how do you do that when the back is still driving ?
and in your comment you talk about changing which foot is cranking once the pedal gets to the bottom of the stroke if you can get the pedal to the bottom you can keep spinning it ? although unless there is something on the other side then you could only take 1 pedal all the way down then yes being able to turn back half a turn could be usefull but my then you should be up the edge and can reset ? the only time i see you point is up a rut where its long and you cant spin the pedals
@@S14AA You just use brakes to stop the overrun... Needing overrun is something that happens constantly. I've never thought I wouldn't want overrun in any scenario.
Have you ever tried to to go fast on a trail? Your comment seems from someone who has never pedaled a moderately technical trail at any effort and is theorizing what it might be like. No you absolutely can't just keep pedaling when you cranking back to change the timing to not smash the pedals into rocks. Your comment makes no sense.
Wonder if this will be available for thefolks with the ep8 motor also.
unlikely... it would be good if they could.
Everyone tell me the bms of the battery pack is also different, ive been wondering of you could convert the existing battery
You mention there’s a new ep801 display that shows battery percentage? I have the ep801 but it has the updated display (from the ep8) that only shows 5 battery bars….. if this is right, do you know if you can update the display only? Re: adjusting the settings, I believe Shimano are updating the app that will allow users to change the setting in the autumn. Thanks for the vid - very useful!
You can update the display only. It is an orderable part from a shimano dealer.
@@alexbiketester Great video. I have a question about the battery percentage. So far I can only see where this display shows 10 bars not an actual percentage number. Is that correct? And do you know which bikes you can swap the display out with? I have a Pivot Shuttle LT (2024) with the 750 battery. Would love to get a slightly better display for this bike. Thanks for you very informative videos.
@@TheCaffeinatedBible yes it has a 10 percent step indicator. I dont know if an older bike can use this display
Does over-run feature also work on trail mode or only boost?
boost
Will you able to change the different overrun Modes yourself After updating the Firmware once in a bike Shop ?
No only the shop can change it. Just set it to max.
I have ep8 motor and hate that batt display and the same way it can be updated with ep801 display, either way there is not wahoo app or computer that can show batt % for the peace of mind
Hey btw do you know if shimano ep8 motor has the same overrun as ep801?
It doesnt.
@@alexbiketester i will move to dji motor that’s going to be a step forward when it comes smart battery & firmware.
@@porroco It looks interesting. looks special compared to whats on market at moment
I like that new displays battery bars
That’s how shimano should layout batt range, 10 bars not 6
What version is the update?
4.3 or something...
@@alexbiketester ya thats what i updated to
@@alexbiketester i updated it, now what do I do to get the update installed and working?
@@mutleyadamsracing2684 you need to go to a shimano dealer to change the settings to max.
wow
Crazy how behind shimano are on nearly all their MTB products including their motors, I absolutely cannot stand the Shimano 801 motor, The 3 bikes I've tried have rattled like a tin can full of bolts(guess you got lucky), less power is frustrating when jumping off a bosch or a befang motor. IT's a damn shame as several good riding bikes have it installed.... exactly why Ebike motors should have a stand bolt pattern so you can dump shimano stuff for bosch, lots of brands have changed away from shimano which is fantastic.
My new Marin ebike is soooooo good.
The Marin is really good!
@@alexbiketester yep, the new Marin Alpine Ebike is fantastic, Looks a bit odd at first but grows on ya haha
And it’s really ugly, sorry to say. EP801 is quite nice to ride, see how after the update it runs.
My Nukeproof Megawatt's Ep801 motor is an Absolute monster unit and with the update I smash my friends Bosch CX and my other mate's Brose so I think you must have just been really unlucky!!😞🤟
P.s Got to agree......the Marin is a really ugly bike they should stick to dirt jumpers.🙌
@@glenross7747 the Marin ebike kind of grows on ya, it performs really well tho.