Great video, I too agree with your comment about the new competitors. The reliability of the Bosch is legendary, and the service is also available nearly everywhere. I can't wait to see what the fifth generation will be like.
People always think more power or watts is everyrhing. I have tried shiano. High end latest gen bike with specialized motor. I have latest gen bosch on my gen 4 rail. Bosch wins all day for me. The immense push in technical lines with bosch is unmatched. Idk about dji. But tkme will tell. K skmplu tji k more torque does not mean better imediately. Alot of other stuff matters. Balance, support, system integration into frame, acceleration, sensitivity of the motor. Bosch is bosch. Im interested in new dji though
Nice video Alex. I was a Shimano EP8 user until a couple of weeks ago, I changed on Bosch for one major motive (in my opinion ) . Even with the new EP801 and the new update for overrun, you still can't service a Shimano motor like you can with a Bosch or a Brose. Thinking that you spend a small fortune for your "toys" I like to know that if I have a problem ( out of the warranty period) I will be able to fix it without changing the bike. Even that the EP801 is out in the market for more than a year is difficult maybe impossible to find an aftermarket motor to buy.
Yeap, i own 2 ebikes with ep8, but want to upgrate my yeti160e to a new ep801, but there is not motor on amazon to buy & dealer only sales is out of stocks, so only way to upgrade is buying a new ebike. I deff will go to dji ebike next time
@@porrocowait for 2gen DJI or even 3rd 😂. I know DJI for 10 years. Their 1 gen always sucks. After 2 years there is still no update for functions I bough for. DJI 😅
Did you take into account during the test that the overrun is interrupted during the backpadel? which is an extra shimano function to interrupt the overrun.
@@zerschbel3419 I did, I tried every method to maximise or minimise the over run effect. It's different to the Bosch. If you want pure overrun, the Bosch has more. The 801 has a bigger wave of power after the initial few pedal strokes. The Bosch has a slightly higher power on the initial pedal strokes.
With ZF & DJI they will just use over the air update done though your phone via the app .no need to waste your time going into a dealer thats old school.
@@dallasdrew2390 i Just bricked a Shimano motor doing an over the air update. It failed halfway through. Still need to go to a Shimano dealer to sort it.
There is marketing, then there is a product actually making it to market and the end user experience. If the big companies Shimano and Bosch struggle sometimes, imagine what thaose with less experience are going to do. Lets see what happens, we can hope there is shake up.
Great video, I too agree with your comment about the new competitors. The reliability of the Bosch is legendary, and the service is also available nearly everywhere. I can't wait to see what the fifth generation will be like.
People always think more power or watts is everyrhing. I have tried shiano. High end latest gen bike with specialized motor. I have latest gen bosch on my gen 4 rail. Bosch wins all day for me. The immense push in technical lines with bosch is unmatched. Idk about dji. But tkme will tell. K skmplu tji k more torque does not mean better imediately. Alot of other stuff matters. Balance, support, system integration into frame, acceleration, sensitivity of the motor. Bosch is bosch. Im interested in new dji though
Nice video Alex. I was a Shimano EP8 user until a couple of weeks ago, I changed on Bosch for one major motive (in my opinion ) . Even with the new EP801 and the new update for overrun, you still can't service a Shimano motor like you can with a Bosch or a Brose. Thinking that you spend a small fortune for your "toys" I like to know that if I have a problem ( out of the warranty period) I will be able to fix it without changing the bike. Even that the EP801 is out in the market for more than a year is difficult maybe impossible to find an aftermarket motor to buy.
Yeap, i own 2 ebikes with ep8, but want to upgrate my yeti160e to a new ep801, but there is not motor on amazon to buy & dealer only sales is out of stocks, so only way to upgrade is buying a new ebike. I deff will go to dji ebike next time
@@porrocowait for 2gen DJI or even 3rd 😂. I know DJI for 10 years. Their 1 gen always sucks. After 2 years there is still no update for functions I bough for. DJI 😅
We are definitely doing the same tracks in Tuscany 😂
Great videos Alex! Looking forward to catch up in the trails!
Abetone again this week.
@@alexbiketester I'll be in Montalbano with the ASD team 😉
Haven’t heard a tippie joke in too long 😄🤘🏼
A special one just for us.... He recorded it for the channel.
Did you take into account during the test that the overrun is interrupted during the backpadel? which is an extra shimano function to interrupt the overrun.
@@zerschbel3419 I did, I tried every method to maximise or minimise the over run effect. It's different to the Bosch. If you want pure overrun, the Bosch has more. The 801 has a bigger wave of power after the initial few pedal strokes. The Bosch has a slightly higher power on the initial pedal strokes.
@@alexbiketester Thanks for the feedback!
With ZF & DJI they will just use over the air update done though your phone via the app .no need to waste your time going into a dealer thats old school.
@@dallasdrew2390 i Just bricked a Shimano motor doing an over the air update. It failed halfway through. Still need to go to a Shimano dealer to sort it.
@@alexbiketester yep and thats just another reason why Shimano motors get a bad rap but we are talking ZF and DJI here not Shimano.
thank you ❤
Very good content 👍🏾
Thanks, was a bit tired editing it late, improvements to make but the thread I think is there.
Spraying the 💩 out of the skies there!☠️
Wow good video 📹
Those motors are thing of the past, now shimano step ahead in power, range & software interface. Everything can be done via app
There is marketing, then there is a product actually making it to market and the end user experience. If the big companies Shimano and Bosch struggle sometimes, imagine what thaose with less experience are going to do. Lets see what happens, we can hope there is shake up.
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rim magnet is impossible to tune drive more than 25 kmh , it's a BIG problem
That's a good point. No way to trick the magnet signal