I'm a huge GM trucks fan, we have a Colorado and Silverado at home, and we love them. With this new gen, it boosts up even more my love for Chevy. The Trail Boss is the one i would get.
sounds like a dream team! i’m biased to toyota trucks, but gm would definitly be a second choice if i needed something that tows more than the tundra (no heavy duty option)
@@dazednconfusedrn only issue with GM trucks is the history of electrical problems and slipping transmissions. Not to mention the lifter issues on 5.3’s.
I've pulled up next to Both a Ranger and a Colorado in my Dakota. Roughly same length, but defiantly not same height. Majority being 4x4s on 18" wheels They look more Full size circa 2000s than they do "midsize" circa 2000s. Now a Maverick, thats smaller than my Dakota. Reason why the Midsize market fizzeled was due to them costing the same as a full size with the same MPG. Now they're 2/3 the price and get slightly better MPG. Though by 2/3s I mean $40k vs 70k lol
@@MilesPerHr Yep and the Ram 1500 my parents have you can have a dance party in the back and looking out the window level with my dads 3500 4x4 dually lol
YES 🎯🎯🎯 this is it. Back then say 10-15 years ago this was the case. You could get a smaller truck v6 but why? When then you could go full size and get roughly 1-3 mpg less vs the mid size and definitely costed near the same then. Couple thousand more. Now there’s a definite difference in cost and gas usage when you opt for the mid size trucks.
So far, it’s got the best looking exterior of all the next gen midsize trucks imo. Interior looks good too, although I personally do like the iPad-esque screen in the ROW 6G, that still retains knobs for HVAC and volume.
@@declanrobinson1055 its way better than the frontier and the canyon beats them both by a mile... I think i like canyon even better than ranger raptor.
@@hewster1 that may be true but the canyon and colorado don't look even remotely as good as their competitors I think they look liked they got their face smashed in an some chevy designer said ooooooo and called it a day. the tacoma, frontier and ranger look miles better than any GM manufactured truck by miles.
@Declan Robinson I very very much so disagree. The Colorado is meh but the canyon is awesome. Tacoma front end is meh. Range looks like a basic truck (ranger raptor is a different story)
I just bought a z71 Colorado in Nitro Yellow. A friend of mine bought a Canyon Denali new in 21 and that gave me the fever. Both are fantastic trucks and both look and function amazing!
This new Colorado looks way better than anything else in it's class in my opinion. I feel like it's been a while but GM finally did something right when it comes to a truck. Only problem is what they are selling for is pretty high.
Nice new upgrades from Chevy on the Colorado. I just bought a 2022 ZR2 and I love it, but there are many features I am glad they have improved. Thanks for the video! 👍
I just bought a '22 ZR2 as well. I LOVE it but I kind of feel like I should have waited. The camera system alone makes it worth it. I also love the Keyless ignition. I need to stop watching these videos. LOL
Good improvements over last generation. One negative impression is the cost cutting squarish instrument display not filling out the available space. I do miss my 2018 Canyon with the 2.8L diesel, I needed to move up to a 1500 to tow a bigger camper.
I think these trucks look great! My only exception is the placement of the Colorado name badge on the front doors. They are placed awkwardly high on the door, like a 3 year old slapped them on as an afterthought.
Thanks for doing this walkaround with slow an easy camera movements. I watched another big UA-camr do a walk around and his camera movements were too sporadic and fast to really get a good look at the truck exterior.
I can’t believe people are paying these prices for a midsize truck. They have to be bankrupting themselves for a truck with features they don’t need for a price they cannot afford. It’s supposed to be a mid sized truck not a luxury vehicle. The price as shown is more than the average yearly income in the U.S. Insanity
This is why I’m keeping my 2016 Silverado WT for a few more years. Good full sized truck, no payment, and still looks great for its age. A truck is a truck.
Did you say Google built in the entertainment center this must be the 2023 introduction that Google was talking about seven weeks ago in a article I saw.
Im a huge ford fan but with this new colorado. If ford doesn’t step up in the next model. Then i will possibly switch in my SUV for one. As i have been in the market for a midsize truck for a while.
How is the LT model $46,000? That would mean the Z 71 would have to be mid 50s and ZR2 in the 60s. Even though they keep telling us it’s a lot less than that I can’t see how.
The Z71 with similar options is actually only $1200 more than this LT. Zr2 starts low $50s. You should build and price them online, you might be surprised…
I’d go Frontier reliability, normally aspirated V6 and that truck in Pro4X trim is super smooth. The nine speed auto in the Frontier is second to none.
@@Encourageable yup and a lot of people do. Taco best selling mid size truck what 20 years straight? I personally like the superior reliability. I just picked up my PRO4X. Drives awesome.
Really not a fan of that square screen where the gauge cluster goes. Either make the screen the same shape as the shroud, or put real gauges on the side and a smaller screen in the middle! The square screen surrounded by black space outlined by the shroud looks unrefined.
well i was considering trading my 2020 z71 crew cab for gen 3 but basicly only upgrade i see is infortanment center an cluster an a little different look on outdide an i can bet the 4cyl not gona handle towing like my v6 or diesals will
When are auto makers going to realize that incandescent lights cheapen the brand image of their vehicles more than the few extra cents that LEDs would cost?
I hope my existing 22 year old Tahoe lasts me for at least another 10 years because that's about how long it will take me to save up for a down payment on a Colorado. Geez Louise - the price of these things is getting totally out of control.
im actualy liking this better than the silverado....if not hauling anything major seems to be decent. Just wondering about the long term reliability of the turbo 4, since ive read that its more wear and tear and several other vehicles that use turbo 4 in larger suv/trucks struggle a bit.
Gloss black in a truck interior is just obnoxious. The low mounted center HVAC vents is a very odd thing. I can see them freezing your hand in the summer of you rest your right arm on the center console arm rest.
How are heated seats available on the LT but not the Trail Boss. Honestly frustrating as the only trim I'm interested in is the Trail Boss but literally every vehicle I've had for years has had heated seats standard.
Trail Boss is based on the Work Truck. You can get pretty much the same Trail Boss kit in the Z71 to have more amenities. Would be nice to pick and choose options, though!
@MilesPerHr I mean fact us the TB sits above the LT in the product stack. Should have all the options the LT has available at the least. There's also no option to add the lift that the TB has to the z71. Even if there was it's far more expensive initially and you get a painted bumper and no lift. Also no available suspension upgrade. On silverado trail boss all these things are options.
Excellent review I’d like to have known what kind of gas mileage you were personally getting!! Also can u disengage the transfer case to I can flat tow?
I didn't monitor my fuel economy during my short stint behind the wheel, sorry about that. Chevy didn't share with us whether the transfer case could be disconnected - again, sorry about that.
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Awesome truck but they are just out of their minds with pricing. This is an LT. as tested for $37k, ok maybe you could convince me. But this as it sits is nearly $50k, and will be over $50k after TTL. The price does not match the spec, might as well get a full sized truck for that price too. But of course there is some lunatic out there who will pay $50k for this, and thus ruin the market for the rest of us.
My thoughts exactly. People are bankrupting themselves for a midsize truck with features they don’t need for a price they really cannot afford. I’m glad to see another man of reason
I believe most Rangers were 4 pots until they got the German V6 that ran at Sebring. (The truck that took my neighbor to 350,000miles and both his daughters drove it to college)
The Ranger 2.3 ecoboost is no slouch. I used to say the same. No 4 bangers. Traded a 2018 Colorado for a 2020 ranger. Ranger is a better truck. The Colorado gave me to many problems; 8 speed trans acting up, squeaky suspension and the rear differential was always knocking and I was told it’s normal. I don’t trust these GM trucks and I’ve had a few.
Just test drove both. There's no comparison... Ranger is not attractive, the interior is dated AF, and doesn't have nearly the getup and go. I bought the Z71.
In regards to the transmission hunting for a moment when you floored it on the HWY that is pretty normal when you have a vehicle/transmission that adapts to the driver over time. The adaption is pretty aggressive early on as well. This vehicle/transmission is dealing with many different drivers and is early in adaption. I'm not a fan of the current gen Colorado/Canyon but this new gen really has my attention. Torque is king and all power levels have more torque than HP down low and that is important. Great review.
Yup very similar to the 2019 Ranger when it first came out. All the reviewers criticized the 10 speed, but actual owners love it. Apparently most new transmissions take a few thousand miles to “learn” exactly how you drive and react accordingly. It’s an interesting concept, but makes sense considering how complex vehicles are these days.
Can't wait till the truck goes through a tow test to see how the 4 cylinder turbo works, how the MPGs breakout, and if the engine can handle operating at higher temps while towing extended periods of time.
I'm a huge GM trucks fan, we have a Colorado and Silverado at home, and we love them. With this new gen, it boosts up even more my love for Chevy. The Trail Boss is the one i would get.
I'll have a Trail Boss First Drive out next week!
sounds like a dream team! i’m biased to toyota trucks, but gm would definitly be a second choice if i needed something that tows more than the tundra (no heavy duty option)
@@dazednconfusedrn only issue with GM trucks is the history of electrical problems and slipping transmissions. Not to mention the lifter issues on 5.3’s.
@@charlesrodriguez7984 my auntys 06 speaks otherwise. it’s a great truck, all gm trucks are?, but i would never buy one. lease? sure but never buy
Ah I thought you had an f150
Looks way better than the current Colorado. But still out of most of our price ranges
U right about that Sr.
I got the Silverado custom 2.7 310 hp/430 lbs torque. Didn't know there was a version of this engine in the Colorado. Very nice!
Must say, GM is on a roll with these all new models.
You and Acceler8 have by far the best 2 reviews of the new Colorado. Believe me Ive watched them all. Top notch work man
I'll drive just about any vehicle Chevy is making these days. I love their trucks!
Me too! 😀
I'm digging the new design!
I've pulled up next to Both a Ranger and a Colorado in my Dakota. Roughly same length, but defiantly not same height. Majority being 4x4s on 18" wheels They look more Full size circa 2000s than they do "midsize" circa 2000s. Now a Maverick, thats smaller than my Dakota. Reason why the Midsize market fizzeled was due to them costing the same as a full size with the same MPG. Now they're 2/3 the price and get slightly better MPG. Though by 2/3s I mean $40k vs 70k lol
Midsize trucks are now big enough to be a family's single vehicle!
@@MilesPerHr Yep and the Ram 1500 my parents have you can have a dance party in the back and looking out the window level with my dads 3500 4x4 dually lol
YES 🎯🎯🎯 this is it. Back then say 10-15 years ago this was the case. You could get a smaller truck v6 but why? When then you could go full size and get roughly 1-3 mpg less vs the mid size and definitely costed near the same then. Couple thousand more. Now there’s a definite difference in cost and gas usage when you opt for the mid size trucks.
So far, it’s got the best looking exterior of all the next gen midsize trucks imo. Interior looks good too, although I personally do like the iPad-esque screen in the ROW 6G, that still retains knobs for HVAC and volume.
yea idk man i dislike frontiers by a good margin but this is definitely not as good looking as the frontier...
@@declanrobinson1055 its way better than the frontier and the canyon beats them both by a mile... I think i like canyon even better than ranger raptor.
@@hewster1 that may be true but the canyon and colorado don't look even remotely as good as their competitors I think they look liked they got their face smashed in an some chevy designer said ooooooo and called it a day. the tacoma, frontier and ranger look miles better than any GM manufactured truck by miles.
@Declan Robinson I very very much so disagree. The Colorado is meh but the canyon is awesome. Tacoma front end is meh. Range looks like a basic truck (ranger raptor is a different story)
I just bought a z71 Colorado in Nitro Yellow. A friend of mine bought a Canyon Denali new in 21 and that gave me the fever. Both are fantastic trucks and both look and function amazing!
This new Colorado looks way better than anything else in it's class in my opinion. I feel like it's been a while but GM finally did something right when it comes to a truck. Only problem is what they are selling for is pretty high.
How do you figure. Nissan frontier is high 30s
How the Colorado badge almost at the level of the door handle was approved, baffles me.
Nice new upgrades from Chevy on the Colorado. I just bought a 2022 ZR2 and I love it, but there are many features I am glad they have improved. Thanks for the video! 👍
I just bought a '22 ZR2 as well. I LOVE it but I kind of feel like I should have waited. The camera system alone makes it worth it. I also love the Keyless ignition. I need to stop watching these videos. LOL
Good improvements over last generation. One negative impression is the cost cutting squarish instrument display not filling out the available space. I do miss my 2018 Canyon with the 2.8L diesel, I needed to move up to a 1500 to tow a bigger camper.
the new colorado with the uprated engine can tow 7700
I think these trucks look great! My only exception is the placement of the Colorado name badge on the front doors. They are placed awkwardly high on the door, like a 3 year old slapped them on as an afterthought.
easy fix, just remove them lol. but i 100% agree, these new 2023's look awesome.
Thanks for doing this walkaround with slow an easy camera movements. I watched another big UA-camr do a walk around and his camera movements were too sporadic and fast to really get a good look at the truck exterior.
Glad it was helpful!
Gonna buy one this summer! Love it!
This looks way better than a ranger. And now I would say it looks just as cool as a Tacoma on the outside. the inside is way better than a Tacoma
I can’t believe people are paying these prices for a midsize truck. They have to be bankrupting themselves for a truck with features they don’t need for a price they cannot afford. It’s supposed to be a mid sized truck not a luxury vehicle. The price as shown is more than the average yearly income in the U.S. Insanity
This is why I’m keeping my 2016 Silverado WT for a few more years. Good full sized truck, no payment, and still looks great for its age. A truck is a truck.
Looks like a Tacoma from the side. Like the new look. Chevy is getting smarter.
It doesn’t. Toyota gets zero credit for this redesign, thanks for watching though.
Nothing like a Tacoma if it did I would not have ordered mine.
Did you say Google built in the entertainment center this must be the 2023 introduction that Google was talking about seven weeks ago in a article I saw.
Yep!
Im a huge ford fan but with this new colorado. If ford doesn’t step up in the next model. Then i will possibly switch in my SUV for one. As i have been in the market for a midsize truck for a while.
How is the LT model $46,000? That would mean the Z 71 would have to be mid 50s and ZR2 in the 60s. Even though they keep telling us it’s a lot less than that I can’t see how.
In Canada I just priced a Z71 and ZR2 both with some packages but not loaded to the gunnles. Z71 was $55+k and ZR2 was $61+k Canadian dollars
The Z71 with similar options is actually only $1200 more than this LT. Zr2 starts low $50s. You should build and price them online, you might be surprised…
I almost wish I didn't buy the 2021 and waited for this!
Where was this video recorded ?
I was admiring the view and wondering where.
Wish my CarPlay was full screen in my Silverado refresh
It's a new engine to match the Colorado, not the Silverado, accelerates pretty fast, has the right power-to-weight ratio
Its the exact same engine that's been in the Silverado since 2019
I remember this was a 4 & 5 cylinder engine yrs ago
I’d go Frontier reliability, normally aspirated V6 and that truck in Pro4X trim is super smooth. The nine speed auto in the Frontier is second to none.
A lot of people don’t want to drive a Japanese brand truck
@@Encourageable yup and a lot of people do. Taco best selling mid size truck what 20 years straight? I personally like the superior reliability. I just picked up my PRO4X. Drives awesome.
Taco now made inn Mexico
1 out of 10/ gm10/tacoma 8/Ranger 7
Love the new look thinking in on chevy colorado zR2
Ordered a new 2023 Colorado z71
I’m definitely going to get me one even though I have a 2022 canyon.
Excellent car review! 👍
Glad you liked it!
It looks like a mini Silverado which I like. I do wish that it had better reliability but being made by GM and it being new only time will tell.
Why was it called Crew Cab when it is just tad bigger than a quad cab?
Crew Cab, as I understand it, is the size you see in full size 1500s.
Please review volvo s90!
Can you shut off the safety stuff like steer assist and cross traffic alert? I hate that stuff
How's the ride? Bumpy?
My colorado is coming with a 220 amp generator. What exactly is the generator used for
Really not a fan of that square screen where the gauge cluster goes. Either make the screen the same shape as the shroud, or put real gauges on the side and a smaller screen in the middle! The square screen surrounded by black space outlined by the shroud looks unrefined.
I wish they offered it in just the standard v6. I'm switching from my Ford ranger to the 2022 vr2 just to get away from the 2.3 turbo.
well i was considering trading my 2020 z71 crew cab for gen 3 but basicly only upgrade i see is infortanment center an cluster an a little different look on outdide an i can bet the 4cyl not gona handle towing like my v6 or diesals will
If Chevy would use the Colorado platform. And make a Blazer SUV. I'd be looking
When are auto makers going to realize that incandescent lights cheapen the brand image of their vehicles more than the few extra cents that LEDs would cost?
Loved the video! I know it was an LT, but what packages did the truck that you test drove have?
To get to $46k, you have to basically add every option on the LT. You can get a modestly equipped LT for $40k or so.
How are there still incandescent lights on $40k+ vehicles still? All lights should be led
0:00 it looks like it's got a MoTeC dash as standard lol
Very nice review. as you stated there are no fuel economy ratings. but everybody wants to know what your fuel economy was on your test drive?
Unfortunately, I didn't keep track during my brief time behind the wheel - sorry about that.
I hope she comes to Brazil, here the toyota hilux dominates
the new tacom- i mean colorado looks nice. that front end looks oddly familiar though.
what's the 0-60 time for the base model?
Best looking midsize on the market! Why are you even asking?
9:24 Left lane ends. You don't need to signal left. Next video.
4:29
why is geared so short. 2k rpm at 60 isnt necessary with that many gears.
Lol? The Ranger looks like a Mercury Sable Pickup!
Interior needs front and rear AC inverter outlet for the working man.
I hope my existing 22 year old Tahoe lasts me for at least another 10 years because that's about how long it will take me to save up for a down payment on a Colorado. Geez Louise - the price of these things is getting totally out of control.
I think the ranger does look better, but it definitely is an upgrade from the previous model
im actualy liking this better than the silverado....if not hauling anything major seems to be decent. Just wondering about the long term reliability of the turbo 4, since ive read that its more wear and tear and several other vehicles that use turbo 4 in larger suv/trucks struggle a bit.
There a option for 300 hp as well if u need a bit more power
Gloss black in a truck interior is just obnoxious. The low mounted center HVAC vents is a very odd thing. I can see them freezing your hand in the summer of you rest your right arm on the center console arm rest.
How are heated seats available on the LT but not the Trail Boss. Honestly frustrating as the only trim I'm interested in is the Trail Boss but literally every vehicle I've had for years has had heated seats standard.
Trail Boss is based on the Work Truck. You can get pretty much the same Trail Boss kit in the Z71 to have more amenities. Would be nice to pick and choose options, though!
@MilesPerHr I mean fact us the TB sits above the LT in the product stack. Should have all the options the LT has available at the least. There's also no option to add the lift that the TB has to the z71. Even if there was it's far more expensive initially and you get a painted bumper and no lift. Also no available suspension upgrade. On silverado trail boss all these things are options.
GMC Canyon , dropping my ZR2 for AT4X
Perhaps not shocking that GM went with a very Toyota Tacoma look.
I like the new design of the GMC Canyon but I still don't trust that 8 speed.
Options Options Options? You keep saying Options ? Most of that stuff is standard on my Toyota SR5.
I hope that 2.7 is better than the 1.5. Cruze engine
if that turbo goes out.....good luck
It looks really good. I wish they brought back the i-5 so it sounds like a Lambo.
I prefer the naturally aspirated v6 in my frontier but I think this is a hugely needed redesign for this truck
The 3.6 should still be offered in the Colorado it is a proven motor
No its not lol its a joke honestly lol still needing a timing chain its the most laughable thing about it lol
Excellent review I’d like to have known what kind of gas mileage you were personally getting!! Also can u disengage the transfer case to I can flat tow?
I didn't monitor my fuel economy during my short stint behind the wheel, sorry about that. Chevy didn't share with us whether the transfer case could be disconnected - again, sorry about that.
@@MilesPerHr all good great review!
My 22 Colorado 3.6L has ~295WHP~
Wheel not crank
With tune and mods and 93 Octane.
0-60 ~5.7~ Seconds
Way faster than this.
People don’t buy Colorados to drag race LOL
Can I meet this car in Korea?
Colorado
Don't be shocked if it breaks at 100k miles.
Bro could you please increase your mic quality
Are these available now or later?
Production began last month - should be arriving at dealers now
Big L you can’t put LED running lights on the trailboss
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Mercy is when God gets in front of what you do deserve.
God is fiercely protective for that which he finds to be his own, and will requite them that are faithful unto he, yea, those who have not begun negativity, pessimism, and resentful natures and spew not a copiousness of uncaring selfishness, the workers of iniquity who see it right to do wrong in the sight of the Lord and change not their ways, who say none shall see my wrong and Love is of no importance.
Pray for wisdom and treasure God with all the heart, read the KJV and study diligently that none of you be deceived.
Read even this.
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Matthew 4:4
Proverbs 4:7
Psalms 1
Hebrews 11:1 & 6
that transmission lag is completely unacceptable
Consumo qual...
way over priced for a small truck. would do better to buy a chevy luv on craigslist for a fraction of the cost with more features
Awesome truck but they are just out of their minds with pricing. This is an LT. as tested for $37k, ok maybe you could convince me. But this as it sits is nearly $50k, and will be over $50k after TTL. The price does not match the spec, might as well get a full sized truck for that price too.
But of course there is some lunatic out there who will pay $50k for this, and thus ruin the market for the rest of us.
My thoughts exactly. People are bankrupting themselves for a midsize truck with features they don’t need for a price they really cannot afford. I’m glad to see another man of reason
Pin me for no reason.
Hmm…
What kind of pinning?~
@@fuze3522 my comment boi
First 💗
4-banger truck? NOPE.
I believe most Rangers were 4 pots until they got the German V6 that ran at Sebring. (The truck that took my neighbor to 350,000miles and both his daughters drove it to college)
Better power and torque than the outgoing V6. The sound isn't as hearty, but the power is
The Ranger 2.3 ecoboost is no slouch. I used to say the same. No 4 bangers. Traded a 2018 Colorado for a 2020 ranger. Ranger is a better truck. The Colorado gave me to many problems; 8 speed trans acting up, squeaky suspension and the rear differential was always knocking and I was told it’s normal. I don’t trust these GM trucks and I’ve had a few.
My 2023 ranger is better
Just test drove both. There's no comparison... Ranger is not attractive, the interior is dated AF, and doesn't have nearly the getup and go. I bought the Z71.
This is not an attractive truck. Inside and out. I can not stand Chevy styling. It all reminds me of the trash they built in the 90s etc etc.
What is the point of clicking video if they are not for sale
Way to much electronics to go wrong.
What kind of car do you drive that doesn’t have as many electronics? Is your entire dash analog guages??
Yet the 40k trail boss has no telescopic stearing wheel in an attempt to force buyers to upgrade....
In regards to the transmission hunting for a moment when you floored it on the HWY that is pretty normal when you have a vehicle/transmission that adapts to the driver over time. The adaption is pretty aggressive early on as well. This vehicle/transmission is dealing with many different drivers and is early in adaption. I'm not a fan of the current gen Colorado/Canyon but this new gen really has my attention. Torque is king and all power levels have more torque than HP down low and that is important. Great review.
Yup very similar to the 2019 Ranger when it first came out. All the reviewers criticized the 10 speed, but actual owners love it. Apparently most new transmissions take a few thousand miles to “learn” exactly how you drive and react accordingly. It’s an interesting concept, but makes sense considering how complex vehicles are these days.
Not really worth it for $50,000
Nice ! 😁
I may consider buying a Colorado or a Canyon
I ordered a zr2 Colorado
Nice truck! I think it's the best mid-size you can buy.
I'm glad they actually made it look like a normal truck this time
Can't wait till the truck goes through a tow test to see how the 4 cylinder turbo works, how the MPGs breakout, and if the engine can handle operating at higher temps while towing extended periods of time.
I'm worried about this 2nd gen 8 speed transmission. The 1st gen has some issues and its still really clunky.