MHJ didn't bring up Illit to benefit NJ, she simply did it to distract everybody from what Hybe accused her of. As she said in her texts with her VP, all she needs is a headline whether it's true or not. And we see that through this whole drama that's been her strategy. When all that didn't work she threw NJ out in front and turned this whole thing into HYBE vs NJ instead of HYBE vs MHJ. Then when she ran out of ideas she started talking about V.
"Then when she ran out of ideas she started talking about V." 🤣🤣 That is hilarious! She knew that getting ARMY involved would elevate the issue and cause more chaos. I hope she wasn't stupid enough to think that if she said that she was friends with V that ARMY would say, "Oh, well V likes her, so she must be ok." But even if there were folks naive enough to believe that, the military proved that she was lying. But she is a professional manipulator and she knows that fandoms react emotionally quicker than they react rationally. That's what she was counting on. And of course, it worked. I just hope she stays tangled in the web she created and gets crushed. She needs to go to jail.
@nicolecmke idk if she was trying to get army on her side otherwise she wouldn't have said "he text me so much I wonder if he's really in the military". She wanted another headline, "Bts V using his phone and getting special treatment in the military". Just another distraction! That woman is truly disgusting.
Eu discordo porque antes do newjeans o kpop não tinha um conceito parecido com o delas e o problema não é fazer o mesmo conceito é que a empresa claramente fez o grupo com o mesmo conceito do newjeans pra meio que substituir a popularidade do newjeans pelo illit, e só ressaltando que eu não concordo com o hate que o illit leva
A Tokki account I follow said that BeLift "admitted to copying" and then highlighted the same quote. In my mind I'm like "this does not say that at all" LOL The bunnies fandom is cooked sadly
like i saw on twitter bunnies celebrating about light jeans not being posted due to "internal conflict" they were saying "newjeans is free" im just confused..
Fan opinions should not be taken into consideration when it comes to plagiarism. If you were to ask me personally, unlike boy groups, girl groups are all, with one or two exceptions, very much the same to me, whether it's their concept, their singing, their songs,, or their dancing. You could put a dozen different girl groups on stage, one after the ither, and I wouldn't be able to tell them apart... and this is exactly why I just can't be bothered with girl groups. It's all pretty much the same... just rehashed. I think it's quite funny that MHJ is using the plagiarism card against other groups when she herself copied another group's concept, and even used a similar name, but that's the hypocrisy of MHJ... everything she accuses others of, she's actually done herself.
Exactly💯, she even copied the song "bubble gum" which proves she is continuously stealing others' intellectual properties. Stole NJ from Source Music, tried to steal Ador from Hybe, as we see even the whole concept and name of the group are NOT hers.
It planned by Min Hee Jin. Min Hee Jin ordered to her fans to make the accusation. There is Min Hee Jin's fans and New Jeans's fans. Min Hee Jin's fans actively made slandering and New Jeans's fans are too stup1d to understand anything.
I say MHJ mentioned and tried to bring down Illit during her crocodile Tears conference. Because she felt threatened by their sudden rise of success with Magnetic. Nwjns also randomly went rival like that, and she was scared the public would switch side. Which is dumb as even if Nwjns don't have longevity, they still had a solid fanbase. Delusionally solid fanbase at that!
I find it funny that some people make it seem as if BeLift Lab admitted that they copied from NJ, just because they haven't made it clear yet and said we'll do/talk about it at the next hearing.🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
min can also try to argue, " oh but in my conference I said Illit we're not in fault but the adult " ( load of crap btw she freakin name dropped them). Belift statement makes sense because even if she say that and " weren't targeting Illit" she still cause destruction to their caree
I ain’t gonna lie the judge saying they might consider public opinion for further judgement on plagiarism is kinda crazy but this first hearing wasn’t really anything from either side just a rehash but the next ones should be interesting
They didn't exactly say they would, but that there's a question of if they should. They have to comb through everything and set precedent for how it things will be judged now and in the future
@@immealldayeveryday9425 Since the protagonists of this story are idols and part of their career is their reputation, that is, the opinion of their fans, the judge must decide whether this opinion should be one of the elements to be taken into account. Furthermore, the judge, by saying "I have to think about it", shows the public that he did not immediately reject the defendant's argument (MHJ). Although this concern may seem unnecessary, remember that this trial has a very high level of fanfare.
@@immealldayeveryday9425 The judge asked both of them if the accusation of plagiarism had public relevance, since it was made in public. If the accusation of plagiarism did not have public relevance, MHJ had no right to speak about it in public, even if it were true. That is why MHJ's lawyer responded that it was already widely discussed on social media.
@@CapitalVictims That's still nuts tho, because then whoever has the biggest, loudest fanbase will win. Court cases will be a popularity contest just like weekly music shows. Yikes.
Not exactly. In some countries, defamation is a crime even if what the defendant said is true. That is, if I say that you are a thief, I am guilty of defamation, even if you are actually a thief. This type of law is intended to protect reputation as an asset of legal relevance. That is why the judge asked both of them if the accusation of plagiarism had public relevance, since it was made in public. If the accusation of plagiarism did not have public relevance, MHJ had no right to speak about it in public, even if it were true. That is why MHJ's lawyer responded that it was already widely discussed on social media. In any case, Belift denied the existence of plagiarism. What matters in this case is whether MHJ's statement caused damage to Belift.
you can defame someone and if the judge rules it was because of public interest it’s not punishable I see what her side is doing anyone this is gonna be a long journey entertaining though
Why does the judge say contemplating on whether public opinion or expert opinion to make their judgement shouldn’t it automatically be expert opinion? public opinion is too biased
Because they are setting a lot of new precedent with this case. They will likely decide on how much weight, if any, public opinion is given in a court of law. They are going through all the information and it will be a meticulous process
Since the protagonists of this story are idols and part of their career is their reputation, that is, the opinion of their fans, the judge must decide whether this opinion should be one of the elements to be taken into account. Furthermore, the judge, by saying "I have to think about it", shows the public that he did not immediately reject the defendant's argument (MHJ). Although this concern may seem unnecessary, remember that this trial has a very high level of fanfare.
@@bqanto New Jeans fandom is the most stup1d fandom in the world. There are Min Hee Jin fandom who actively made slandering and New Jeans fandom who believe everything from Min Hee Jin and her fans. Some influencer paid to make comments in social media. Like SM paid influencer to attack Hybe, when Kakao CEO manipulated SM's stock price. Now Kakao CEO in jail because of it.
Why is the second hearing date is so long? March is far from January. Does all court cases thake long breaks? I don't know actually that's why I'm confused why is it so long
@@JannatulFerdous-xg8pm They usually have a hearing every six months in fast-track trials. This time they probably sped up because of the notoriety of the case. Hybe filed a lawsuit against MHJ in April and hasn't been indicted yet.
WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO COPY THE BEST NEW JEANS, " A REAL NON FILLER AWARD WINNER " " Billboard Magazine's Group of the Year " - ALL third rate k-pop girl groups are glad their gone, even the ones that liked them, NOW THEY MIGHT SHINE, But since their gone now, k-pop will just fall back to the blandpink staleness like it was before NEW JEANS got them out of it/Woke it up, U KNOW IT 2
@@CapitalVictims By asking trick questions in your titles, you will end up with the same reputation as Dave Disci. People don't even watch the video and judge you based on the title. They don't process the question mark.
@bqanto Then I don't want them as viewers. I want people who will watch to hear what is actually said. Not to hear their biases confirmed. So I'm glad they get weeded out I also have no idea who the person you're talking about is I also reject the premise that this is a trick question. My videos cover widely discussed topics and viewpoints, I don't invent them out of thin air. Perception is reality, and if there's a prevailing narrative out there, I will cover it whether I think it's true or not
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MHJ didn't bring up Illit to benefit NJ, she simply did it to distract everybody from what Hybe accused her of. As she said in her texts with her VP, all she needs is a headline whether it's true or not. And we see that through this whole drama that's been her strategy. When all that didn't work she threw NJ out in front and turned this whole thing into HYBE vs NJ instead of HYBE vs MHJ. Then when she ran out of ideas she started talking about V.
También era parte de su plan 1945, para dañar la imagen de la empresa
This is true as well
"Then when she ran out of ideas she started talking about V." 🤣🤣 That is hilarious! She knew that getting ARMY involved would elevate the issue and cause more chaos. I hope she wasn't stupid enough to think that if she said that she was friends with V that ARMY would say, "Oh, well V likes her, so she must be ok." But even if there were folks naive enough to believe that, the military proved that she was lying. But she is a professional manipulator and she knows that fandoms react emotionally quicker than they react rationally. That's what she was counting on. And of course, it worked. I just hope she stays tangled in the web she created and gets crushed. She needs to go to jail.
@nicolecmke idk if she was trying to get army on her side otherwise she wouldn't have said "he text me so much I wonder if he's really in the military". She wanted another headline, "Bts V using his phone and getting special treatment in the military". Just another distraction! That woman is truly disgusting.
I find it funny how she tells everyone that they are copying her, even though she herself is someone who has copied previous groups.🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Eu discordo porque antes do newjeans o kpop não tinha um conceito parecido com o delas e o problema não é fazer o mesmo conceito é que a empresa claramente fez o grupo com o mesmo conceito do newjeans pra meio que substituir a popularidade do newjeans pelo illit, e só ressaltando que eu não concordo com o hate que o illit leva
Yes like the mexican group Jeans
A Tokki account I follow said that BeLift "admitted to copying" and then highlighted the same quote. In my mind I'm like "this does not say that at all" LOL The bunnies fandom is cooked sadly
they've been cooked 😭
like i saw on twitter bunnies celebrating about light jeans not being posted due to "internal conflict" they were saying "newjeans is free" im just confused..
yk the group is cooked when their own fandom can't read 😭
Because Min Hee Jin's fans often made slandering and New Jeans fandom is the most stup1d fandom in the world.
@@cranburrey NAH 😭
Fan opinions should not be taken into consideration when it comes to plagiarism. If you were to ask me personally, unlike boy groups, girl groups are all, with one or two exceptions, very much the same to me, whether it's their concept, their singing, their songs,, or their dancing. You could put a dozen different girl groups on stage, one after the ither, and I wouldn't be able to tell them apart... and this is exactly why I just can't be bothered with girl groups. It's all pretty much the same... just rehashed.
I think it's quite funny that MHJ is using the plagiarism card against other groups when she herself copied another group's concept, and even used a similar name, but that's the hypocrisy of MHJ... everything she accuses others of, she's actually done herself.
Lol I would say the same about boy groups as a Gg Stan. To each their own.
Exactly💯, she even copied the song "bubble gum" which proves she is continuously stealing others' intellectual properties.
Stole NJ from Source Music, tried to steal Ador from Hybe, as we see even the whole concept and name of the group are NOT hers.
It planned by Min Hee Jin. Min Hee Jin ordered to her fans to make the accusation. There is Min Hee Jin's fans and New Jeans's fans. Min Hee Jin's fans actively made slandering and New Jeans's fans are too stup1d to understand anything.
I say MHJ mentioned and tried to bring down Illit during her crocodile Tears conference. Because she felt threatened by their sudden rise of success with Magnetic. Nwjns also randomly went rival like that, and she was scared the public would switch side. Which is dumb as even if Nwjns don't have longevity, they still had a solid fanbase. Delusionally solid fanbase at that!
I find it funny that some people make it seem as if BeLift Lab admitted that they copied from NJ, just because they haven't made it clear yet and said we'll do/talk about it at the next hearing.🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
min can also try to argue, " oh but in my conference I said Illit we're not in fault but the adult " ( load of crap btw she freakin name dropped them). Belift statement makes sense because even if she say that and " weren't targeting Illit" she still cause destruction to their caree
JUST LOCK MHJ UP
I ain’t gonna lie the judge saying they might consider public opinion for further judgement on plagiarism is kinda crazy but this first hearing wasn’t really anything from either side just a rehash but the next ones should be interesting
They didn't exactly say they would, but that there's a question of if they should. They have to comb through everything and set precedent for how it things will be judged now and in the future
@@CapitalVictimsits ridiculous, public opinion has nothing to do with laws, it’s not plagiarism anyway and it’s ridiculous that this was not dismissed
@@immealldayeveryday9425 Since the protagonists of this story are idols and part of their career is their reputation, that is, the opinion of their fans, the judge must decide whether this opinion should be one of the elements to be taken into account. Furthermore, the judge, by saying "I have to think about it", shows the public that he did not immediately reject the defendant's argument (MHJ). Although this concern may seem unnecessary, remember that this trial has a very high level of fanfare.
@@immealldayeveryday9425 The judge asked both of them if the accusation of plagiarism had public relevance, since it was made in public. If the accusation of plagiarism did not have public relevance, MHJ had no right to speak about it in public, even if it were true. That is why MHJ's lawyer responded that it was already widely discussed on social media.
@@CapitalVictims That's still nuts tho, because then whoever has the biggest, loudest fanbase will win. Court cases will be a popularity contest just like weekly music shows. Yikes.
Be lift lab never said that
Why would Belift admit to copying Illit when it just destroys their case against NJs?
Not exactly. In some countries, defamation is a crime even if what the defendant said is true. That is, if I say that you are a thief, I am guilty of defamation, even if you are actually a thief. This type of law is intended to protect reputation as an asset of legal relevance. That is why the judge asked both of them if the accusation of plagiarism had public relevance, since it was made in public. If the accusation of plagiarism did not have public relevance, MHJ had no right to speak about it in public, even if it were true. That is why MHJ's lawyer responded that it was already widely discussed on social media. In any case, Belift denied the existence of plagiarism. What matters in this case is whether MHJ's statement caused damage to Belift.
korean really loves drama, hybe should hire johnny Depp's lawyers😂
you can defame someone and if the judge rules it was because of public interest it’s not punishable I see what her side is doing anyone this is gonna be a long journey entertaining though
Why does the judge say contemplating on whether public opinion or expert opinion to make their judgement shouldn’t it automatically be expert opinion? public opinion is too biased
Because they are setting a lot of new precedent with this case. They will likely decide on how much weight, if any, public opinion is given in a court of law. They are going through all the information and it will be a meticulous process
Since the protagonists of this story are idols and part of their career is their reputation, that is, the opinion of their fans, the judge must decide whether this opinion should be one of the elements to be taken into account. Furthermore, the judge, by saying "I have to think about it", shows the public that he did not immediately reject the defendant's argument (MHJ). Although this concern may seem unnecessary, remember that this trial has a very high level of fanfare.
@@bqanto New Jeans fandom is the most stup1d fandom in the world. There are Min Hee Jin fandom who actively made slandering and New Jeans fandom who believe everything from Min Hee Jin and her fans. Some influencer paid to make comments in social media. Like SM paid influencer to attack Hybe, when Kakao CEO manipulated SM's stock price. Now Kakao CEO in jail because of it.
Ngl I don't see Illit and New Jeans as simalar
The more I watch this clip the more they look crazy😅
Odd youth is more NewJeans-esc then Illit
Belif son los que demandan 😂😂😂, cómo van a creer que admite algo , los Bunnys y su bajo nivel intelectual ya dan pena 😅
team ILLIT all the way.
Se o ILLIT é copia, News jeans também.
For entertainment purposes only
Y is your headline like that 🙄
Will you post about the Source Music case?
Why are you spreading misinformation??
@@damiii-l1i yes!
@@Jnkisfine Go ahead and tell what's misinformation. Dont worry, I'll wait
Not at all. Reading comprehension is lacking here.
Do we know when the second hearing is?
It is in March
If I remember right, I think March 7th is the exact date
@@CapitalVictims Thanks for the answer
@@CapitalVictims Do you know if it is on the same day as the Source Music second hearing?
@damiii-l1i it is not the same day but their second hearing is also in March
what is this bait title
Why is the second hearing date is so long?
March is far from January.
Does all court cases thake long breaks? I don't know actually that's why I'm confused why is it so long
A 2 month interim is actually considered quite short. Especially in South Korea
@CapitalVictims What! Really?!
@@JannatulFerdous-xg8pm They usually have a hearing every six months in fast-track trials. This time they probably sped up because of the notoriety of the case. Hybe filed a lawsuit against MHJ in April and hasn't been indicted yet.
WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO COPY THE BEST NEW JEANS, " A REAL NON FILLER AWARD WINNER " " Billboard Magazine's Group of the Year " - ALL third rate k-pop girl groups are glad their gone, even the ones that liked them, NOW THEY MIGHT SHINE, But since their gone now, k-pop will just fall back to the blandpink staleness like it was before NEW JEANS got them out of it/Woke it up, U KNOW IT 2
I didnt see anywhere in the hearing where belift stated they copied new jeans. Please don’t spread false stories!
Please watch the video
@@CapitalVictims By asking trick questions in your titles, you will end up with the same reputation as Dave Disci. People don't even watch the video and judge you based on the title. They don't process the question mark.
@bqanto Then I don't want them as viewers. I want people who will watch to hear what is actually said. Not to hear their biases confirmed. So I'm glad they get weeded out
I also have no idea who the person you're talking about is
I also reject the premise that this is a trick question. My videos cover widely discussed topics and viewpoints, I don't invent them out of thin air. Perception is reality, and if there's a prevailing narrative out there, I will cover it whether I think it's true or not
Nonsensical hate mongering.
This UA-cam channel is 90% negative NJ newsfeed.
Cry more
@CapitalVictims channel is garbage. Why do you hide behind an AI voice?