Drag Race: 2024 Toyota HiLux 48V vs GWM Alpha Hybrid (0-100, 1/4 mile)
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Drag Race (virtual): 2024 Toyota HiLux 48V vs 2024 GWM Cannon Alpha Hybrid (0-100, 1/4 mile). Separate review videos will be up soon, with written reviews on our website. Stay tuned: drivingenthusi...
2024 Toyota HiLux Rogue 48V specifications:
150kW (204PS) / 500Nm, 2.8-litre turbo-diesel 4-cylinder mild-hybrid
0.206kWh battery, 8.4kW/65Nm electric generator
6-speed auto transmission with RWD/4WD
Claimed 0-100km/h: N/A
Official average fuel consumption: 7.8L/100km
Kerb weight: 2231kg
GCM/Braked towing capacity: 5850kg/3500kg
Price: AU$71,530 (not including on-road costs, at time of upload)
2024 GWM Cannon Alpha Ultra Hybrid specifications:
255kW (347PS) / 648Nm, 2.0-litre turbo-petrol 4-cylinder hybrid
1.75kWh battery, 78kW/268Nm electric motor
9-speed auto transmission with 4WD
Claimed 0-100km/h: N/A
Official average fuel consumption: 9.8L/100km
Kerb weight: 2575kg
GCM/Braked towing capacity: 6555kg/3500kg
Price: AU$64,990 (drive-away, at time of upload)
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It is obvious no matter what tricks you try to justify the Hilux, GWM will win. This is the time to race it with the V6 Ranger/Amarok and or the Ford Raptor.
Its like watching a couple of pensioners racing each other to the bar at opening
All of Ute owners thinks they are driving a Lamborghini 😂
At the end of the day these aren’t drag cars
I’ll take the one that is quality, over engineered, can last over 500,000km and won’t leave you stranded in the bush
No 1 you snooze you lose, 2:40 am awaiting Paris Olympics opening ceremony, this is a great way to pass a few minutes..
What was the ceremony like ?
@@mvnorsel6354 Lets just say In "My opinion" words stolen was not my cup tea having so much going on seemed lost was no direction seemed thrown together, even the drag queen act didn't make sense to me... If you didn't watch it don't feel disappointed..
Have no idea what you just said little kid.... But you special... lol.. @@bertskidmore5506
So if you take off fast from the lights, then drive normally for 5 minutes, does the battery replenish? If so, that would be closer to real world performance.
This is correct it will replenish the battery very fast in sports mode. Unless you repeatedly smash the throttle like he's doing in the video. So everyday person is fine it's only if you are doing track days in the alpha it struggles.
I can agree that the battery should have been bigger but in standard form for example no big wheels, the system is good and more than enough power and torque.
If you're using it for the traffic light grand prix, yes. If you're using it as a ute and trying to carry (or tow) a load up a hill that power isn't going to be there for long.
GWM trashed the Tupperware Toyota😂😂😂😂😂 Let me guess, are we blaming the Toyota driver?😂😂😂😂😂
@@Speakthetruthplease Actually, no it didn’t thrash the Toyota. Even though it produces 255kW vs the HiLux’s 150kW, unless the battery is full it only just beats it. And in fact if the battery is below 50%, it’s slower; 11s vs 10.2s. That’s pathetic in my opinion. It should easily beat the Toyota every time. Where is that so-called 255kW?
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia the average driver would very rarely take there battery to below %50 so yes it thrashes the belowlux... when you compare overall what you get for 65k GWM vs TOYota, its undeniable CHAI NAH is the champ atm
I 4WD for a living (PSN). So I'm not interested I who going to win the race from lights to lights! What is the GWM like off-road is my question. Is the vehicle consistent & capable of running in the bush?
Up & down fire trails. In comfort, just getting old & grumpy now. Comfort would be heaven.
@@Lyko-r1d Yes, the diesel is quite good, but it has a few annoying details. I recently did a complete review on here, including an off-road test 👍
@drivingenthusiastaustralia your a champion. Thanks, I'm just about to change the Mini Mogos (X350D's). They are beasts of vehicles however I not prepared to fork out 100k + on a ranger that get thrown around and banged up 50% of the time.
There is no doubt of GWM's off road performance as there are hundres of thousands of them being tested for the last two years in China in conditions a lot worsethan Australia (e.g the famous route 318 which is basically a cape york trip with 4000m high altitute, half oxygen and below zero degrees temperature, where 4 years ago its all prado and landcruisers, these days vast majority of the car there is tank 300, 500, cannons), what I am worried about is its towing capacity as China nerfed its australian variant from 3.0T V6 to a 2.0T.
Do the diesel top speeds please? Or maybe the difference a throttle controller could make? subbed
Throttle controllers do not make a difference to 0-100 times
@YZJB wouldn't it be a better overall performance if the car could respond and start moving quicker? My previous car seemed so much more aggressive in performance with the controller
@@ethanmanz7631 they FEEL more toey but it doesn't give you any extra performance.
The spec of GWM alpha has cut back the engine from China's 3.0T V6 to a Australia special 2.0T, I am in doubt about the towing performance of GWM alpha when you are towing a 2.5t boat going a long uphill like M1 wollongong section and M1 hornsby uphills. When your battery has gone during the climb, all you got is a 2.0T petrol. When I am towing a 2.5t boat going uphill of these places with an older GWM cannon with 2.0T diesel, I pushed the accelerator to the floor and I can barely hold 80kmh. As such, can I presume that if I was driving a new generation of GWM alpha hybrid, with a heavier body, and a 2.0T petrol engine which has 10% less torque than an older GWM cannon 2.0T diesel, will the GWM alpha stall after it used all the battery power in 20S during the long uphill climb?
Excellent question. Unfortunately I didn't test towing capability as I don't have anything to tow. But in normal conditions the battery level drops very quickly, and, in my opinion, it is very disconcerting as you never really know how much grunt you're going to get when you push your foot down a bit. During towing, this could become a serious issue up long steep hills as you suggested.
Is the canon limited…seems to hit a wall 135ish…or were you chickening out 😅
Scratch that…just seen it can go quicker
@@angusnz7910 It depends on the battery level. With it below 50% it really slows down at about 125, as shown in the last in-car run.
Seems you guys weren't giving it your best shot.
Car sauce got the Tank 500 down to 6.93 0 to 100 , and its obviously heavier
Car sauce is all sponsored rubbish. They obviously don’t do real world tests with GWM paying them.
Car sauce will plug and praise anything made in China, ofc he'd get a better figure 😂
Lots a lot of its validity IMHO
@@craigjennings4175 hands down that guy at CarSauce is fair... Most of those reviews always find those wrong with other brands besides the main stream esp Ford & use. DE is far as well
I think car sauce guys do rev them before launching?
Why would you purposely drain the battery and then test 0-100? Is that a real world scenario anyway? I have not seen this done for other hybrid cars when testing 0-100s.
@@milkoowen6800 It certainly is a real world scenario. During regular driving this battery depletes very quickly, going up a decent hill for example. It’s gone. And then you find you have little power left until you drive downhill for a while.
The difference with this and other hybrids is the electric motor. In the GWM it is overly powerful (78kW), so it drains the small battery very quickly and then there is a big contrast in performance.
In a Toyota Camry hybrid or Hyundai hybrid or whatever, the battery is usually very small as well but the electric motor is not powerful at all. So although the battery still goes flat quickly you don’t notice the difference in performance anywhere near as much. They are a lot more consistent.
In this case, there was a 4 second difference in 0-100 performance between 40% battery and 90%. That’s huge. I’ve timed a Camry hybrid repeatedly and it returned very similar results, well within 1.0 second each run, regardless of the battery state.
He explains why muppet....
i bought hilux is damn slow gwm is better
New canon alpha plug-in hybrid with much bigger battery is coming. Interesting how it will perform.
Acceleration is irrelevant in a ute. Pay load & tow capacity is more important to have torque
Not always,here in South Africa these kind of vehicles are used daily as normal smaller cars and power matters,that's why people go for the Ford Ranger and a VW Amarok as less reliable as they are but people choose them for looks comfort and power Toyota is loosing sales on that regard
nah in Sydney I need that acceleration to beat other cars in the traffic :( of course towing is important too. Don't care about the payload of the ute as most of our tray is empty 99% of time
Are you pdrive tv?
@@mumbo_gaming Yes. I left PD last year. This is my new channel. Thanks for finding!
So as years go on of ownership, battery degradation occurs and your car will become slower and slower
Remember that the GWM is a hybrid so there is a engine and the battery can easily be replaced. 🤷♂️
@@lukemothugcosts alot of money though
That's when you upgrade...
I also find Sport mode is useless in Toyotas with CVT as well, the artificial gear changes are keeping the revs outside the optimum power and torque range, end up holding back acceleration.
Aisin 6-speed not CVT (or more affectionately known as the Aisin 5+1).
@@orangejuicepony6881 yeah I'm aware of that, just saying similar issue found in their CVTs
Love the GWM. Looks and fuel economy of diesel is a winner.
@@peacewithyou503 But it doesn’t have the fuel economy of a diesel; official rate is 9.8L/100km vs a diesel HiLux rated 8.4L/100km. Results are worse in the real world too.
What was the 0-100 speed of the gwm with the full battery?
Full video coming up next which shows max battery performance.
It's unusual that the sport mode in the Toyota makes it less quick... Other Toyota hybrids I know of certainly are quicker in sport mode... If it were possible to fully charge the Toyota battery then it would probably be a second or two quicker too... Except that with it not being a regular Toyota hybrid I'm guessing there's no way to charge the battery beyond what the vehicle is programmed to charge it to by running the engine... In a normal Toyota hybrid you could coast down a hill to charge it up to a higher state of charge for example
GWM... It's just hands down better .... No one cares about the 2% of the market that use them for serious towing lol
Interesting results. Be interesting to see a very similar test but towing something.
GWM... It's just hands down better .... No one cares about the 2% of the market that use them for serious towing lol
@@ballistictrigg3r297 it clearly isnt "hands down better.". It's only 6 or 7 grand cheaper, uses much more fuel, is much poorer quality, is over 300kg heavier, will have much worse resale value, comes from a bullying Communist dictatorship and once it's done a bit of work it goes slower than a bloody diesel Hilux.
Anyone who buys the GWM has rocks in their head.
GWM is better than the hillux. In many aspects except for reliability and toughnes. Since here in South Africa we buy bakkies(Ute) as a replacement for a smaller car 🚗 we dont really need the reliability of the hilux since this GWM will do everything a Toyota Hilux can do with a better package than the hilux many people would rather buy the GWM cos it looks better than Hilux and is more powerful
it would have more fixes by time
@@Mr11ESSE111 that's a stereotypical lie. I know many people with GWM cars for ten years now and since that time I never seen anyone complaining about their cars having mechanical problems at all, when they started producing cars for us we were sceptical and as stereotypes like you thinking that since it's the Chinese product it will be cheap and unreliable but we were proven wrong instead I saw many broken Toyotas during that time. So I extremely disagree with you
@@mayormsuthu1465 depend of usage and where and how they treat vehicles
@@Mr11ESSE111 very much true
Hmm, a Chinese 2L turbo engine making over 300hp. I wonder what’s the reliability like?
@@kareembaba7498 To be fair the 2L itself makes 180kW and then the e-motor adds the rest. But it will be interesting to see how these hold up in 5-10 years. My bet is, not well. Then again, if you only want one for 2-3 years it’ll probably be alright.
before they come to Australia they are sold in China for 2 years. These cars in China are not used as tradie cars but more of a road trip cars. Their famous road trip is Tibet Route 318 trip which is basically a cape york trip with 4000+ altitute low oxigen extreme low temperature. The massive car community has put them in the test and they are proven to be very reliable.
@@kirk2632 Thanks for your comment. Do you know if these communities have tested the Pajero Sport, MU-X and Prado in the same conditions? How did they go?
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia well 4 years ago vast majority of thr car running on tibet roads are land cruiser prado etc. Audi and range rover are not considered reliable enough to go there. There days it is all tank 300 500 in there. In General market toyota has lost the fight to local brands. I think around the world only Australia and a handful of other countries are still take toyota as the most popular brands anyway
@@kirk2632 Ok so Isuzu MU-X and Pajero Sport have not been tested in the same conditions? It is a bit false to confirm this as the best when not all competitors have been tested.
G W M...
Great Waste of Money!😊
How? my Alpha is Dope!!! better than previous amarok and hilux of the same compatible model
The hilux has 165kw 550nm … that’s a GR sport
dmax drag race❤
Now now lux is #1 remember no need 😂😂😂
Just saw a drag race between a std 2.8 hilux vs this 48v and a GR hilux. Just buy the std hilux there was no difference in performance. Actually a joke to be honest.
That video is a little bit misleading because that standard hilux was base line and only 2WD so it is considerably lighter the than the other 2
The 49v was the limiting factor as it adds to parasitic loss for the engine. I did say that it's just a sales gimmick and will add to power loss than have any actual benefit. Just feel thay didn't test it out long enough b4 bringing it to market
@@saddammalima8458 the tiny bit of extra power it makes is more than enough to make up for the little bit of parasitic loss, but your right it’s just a sales gimmick, more so to make it look a bit more green. I’d be guessing if you tested them on a dyno the power difference would be negligible.
@curtis4925 not really coz if you do research on the motor itself it isn't even a power adder . Coz it still draws from the engine ,simply become an Alternator which is what toyota claims it to be it replaces a conventional starter and alternater into one but since it is attached to the engine the engine is forced to spin it either way. Hence just loss of power on acceleration. Total crap
@@saddammalima8458 fair enough I haven’t researched it myself I was lead to believe it gave a small power increase, and I haven’t bothered researching it cause I know it’s a load of crap anyway haha 😜
same engine as in tank 500
255 Chinese kilowatts equals about 150 metric kilowatts
Clearly not because it smoked the Hilux.
Claims 100kw more but doesn't beat the Lux (which is slow) by much. And is slower than the Lux unless it's had a chance to rest and charge its battery
Petrol v Diesel.
Well, almost any vehicle can beat the Sluglux in a drag race.
You're right, but this thing can't even beat it unless it's had a rest to charge its battery... Weak as piss.
Hilux hybrid battery is 7kg lol
With the battery at 50% it's slower than the Hilux LoL.
Not by much though. And if it takes less then a minute to charge back up who really cares?
@@sonofamountie 347hp and 11 sec 0-100, and then under 8 sec 0-100...that's a very inconsistent powertrain. Like every chinese vehicle - crap.
@@Eugen-E I wouldn't say crap, but prob just not up to your personal expectations.
Nah, it's crap.@@orangejuicepony6881
@@Eugen-E I think crap is a bit harsh but each to their own. Remember only as recently as the 80's people were taking the piss out of Toyota's. I don't think it put off the people who are likely to buy it.
It's a damn shame Toyota sies man u get whipped by a GWM so ashame of u
Hilux is in so much trouble gone is your glory days.even if hilux will fit the new 2.7l turbo from the Tacoma it will still lose
Its ok...the new BYD will smash both of them
Years later the hilux still runs like new,GWM still waiting on 2nd engine from dealers
Lol
Still thinks that other technology does not improve. I ditch my old Toyotas over price
Dont fall for Their tricks. Buy the hilux. I made a mistake buying the GWM. It blew its headgasket and the dealerships want to charge 80% the price of the car to repair. They dont want you to repair just buy a new car every time anything goes wrong.
Nice made up story princess.
@@adventurecampexplore5496 Why do you think I would make up a story like this?
@@dawidvwesthuizen4607 youre publicly writing off the whole company because of your story which for all we know could well have been your fault to begin with... enjoy paying 80k for an inferior lowlux
@@lhaneyleofa4558 even if it was my fault having to write off a vehicle because of a blown head gasket is ridiculous, I have an old 1996 Toyota conquest that I have no problem fixing and getting spares for. The GWM also losses it value like crazy. From when I bought the car second hand it has lost another 40% of it's value in 4 years. Go buy the GWM but I will from experience not touch the brand again.
@@lhaneyleofa4558 If this post can help one person not make the mistake I made I will be happy. Also if GWM did not make it so hard and expensive to keep the car on the road this would not have been a problem and the cars market value over time would not fall off a cliff after a few years.
anyone willing to know more about GWMs, follow Savage Tech Australia, that guy is anal about them.
and for good reason, they are the bomb!!
Jy is n domdonner 😂virgelyk petrol teen petrol en diesel teen diesel sit die V6 van 175kw teen die ding dan is die kw dieselde
No thanks for GMW !! No Chinese shit ...reliability and customer service is something Toyota doesn't need to concentrate anymore but GWM still needs to learn !!!
Irrelevant. Nothing from China nor any PR stunt for their products will ever convince me to buy into China 🇨🇳 made products.
Proven over decades and the world's top manufacturers of quality, reliability, resale values and the greatest dealer network on planet earth 🌏 :
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your phone is made from China my man😂stop being a karen