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  • @Tyromaniac
    @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +363

    It took me three months to make this video, which is the longest I've made in 2 years haha (help). Anyways, I had to leave a lot of stuff out for the sake of time, so if you have any questions please be afraid to ask. Also...
    ua-cam.com/play/PL3PVzoGiqA64l_Cl1ZjRleWKfSH7I5GSS.html

    • @godyfoolf
      @godyfoolf 2 роки тому +7

      "so if you have any questions please be afraid to ask." Lol. I'm guessing you meant, please don't be afraid to ask, right?

    • @godyfoolf
      @godyfoolf 2 роки тому +7

      Also I've managed to make the text from 16:59 more clearer, I guess? Not completely though. A lot of it is still a blur, still it might help! Unless you already figured it out, then not much help I can do there. Anyway can I have your permission to send it through discord?

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +7

      @@godyfoolf Yeah man, go ahead, I appreciate it

    • @michalvobejda7789
      @michalvobejda7789 2 роки тому +3

      yo thats cool and all but we all know he´s doing design again

    • @Metadummyvr
      @Metadummyvr 2 роки тому +3

      Where do I watch the rest of it

  • @Creeperman6612
    @Creeperman6612 2 роки тому +466

    The connections between Internecion Cube and Murder Drones only grows more and more.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +82

      Yeah, especially after the new episode of Murder Drones came out

    • @erickmoczulski1582
      @erickmoczulski1582 2 роки тому +20

      @@Tyromaniac Will you make a theory video on Murder Drones?
      You know since episode 2 dropped. Pwessee.🙏🙏

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +27

      @@erickmoczulski1582 The people demanded a second video on Internecion Cube first, but maybe after that...

    • @michaelbecket4901
      @michaelbecket4901 Рік тому +10

      Id like to believe its an undertale situation where its simply a different universe with similar characters
      This time max is the god like creature kirie is the normal robot girl and ICON is the female murder drone with the bubble arm lol

    • @sythrin144
      @sythrin144 Рік тому +2

      @@Tyromaniac How do you make another video on that topic, with so little content released?

  • @black97_0
    @black97_0 2 роки тому +448

    "Confused? Good."
    Way to sum up literary everything @Liam Vickers Animation has ever done animation wise.
    I do not envy his therapist, if he even (still) has one

  • @TheKnifeRaven
    @TheKnifeRaven 2 роки тому +537

    I really like the idea of Kirie being an "avenging angel". Everyone thinks she'll be the main villain, but I prefer the idea that she is an individual infected by the cube, yet is not controlled by it. And instead wishes to destroy the thing that destroyed her. Kind of like an antagonistic protagonist.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +49

      Exactly!

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +1

      Like a lawful-evil character. Doing what is ultimately right, eradicating the cubes and saving the world, but having no moral implications. She unflinchingly kills people to, well… consume their cardiovascular systems so she doesn’t starve

    • @sanityweeb6594
      @sanityweeb6594 2 роки тому +14

      I don’t because in several scenes she doesn’t seem human herself even going to points where she goes the protagonists non human things than we see her origins.She also was very keen on the thought of Icon not having emotions and not being able to think for herself

    • @Faux_Sunlight
      @Faux_Sunlight Рік тому +1

      Like the ending of the exorcist

    • @michaelbecket4901
      @michaelbecket4901 Рік тому +12

      Max is a good protagonist ICON is the neutral evil deuteragonist and kirie is the avenging tritagonist
      It makes an interesting pair of characters we follow

  • @CodenameCMB
    @CodenameCMB 2 роки тому +462

    Got this recommended and I am blown away with the amount of times you had to watch this to try and understand this.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +47

      I will say I spent a lot of time staring at Kirie's desk and nightstand

  • @SirAroace
    @SirAroace 2 роки тому +230

    Its important to remember everything we see at Refinoc is Kirie's dream, not all may have literally happen the way we see it. An example is the faces, that is most likely her not being able to remember them.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +50

      I did think about that, but I figured that it's possible for people to dream things more or less exactly how they happened, helped me keep my sanity lol

  • @walterbrink5391
    @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +1124

    If I had a nickel every time Liam Vickers named one of his characters after a serial-killer, I’d have two nickels. It isn’t much but it’s weird it happened twice, right?

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +186

      I'm not up to date on my serial killer lore, enlighten me

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +202

      William Bonin and Jeffery Dahmer. They are pretty uncommon last names, only really known for the serial-killers attached to them. I wonder why Liam chose _those_ names for _those_ two characters specifically

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +112

      Make that three actually. Lizzy Borden (Haze Borden). Although she’s technically not a serial-killer she is the first thing when you type Borden into Google and of course killed a bunch a people

    • @koathekid8255
      @koathekid8255 2 роки тому +47

      @@Tyromaniac when I saw the name Dahmer I was like “ wait a minute I know where that name comes from”
      Followed immediately by
      “Oh shit serial killer”

    • @caliberkat
      @caliberkat Рік тому +14

      @@Tyromaniac the Doofenschmirtz pun sailed right over you :I

  • @datfoxguy4273
    @datfoxguy4273 2 роки тому +107

    An interesting detail, when Kirie is estimating IC-0n’s mass, she specified “remaining origin cube only (if isolated),” which I think might imply that IC-0n could have more bodies elsewhere, which would seem to be possible as she can control multiple parts of herself even when not in contact with them (such as the cube Kirie touched in her flashback.). Although we never see an IC do something as complex as create a second body, so perhaps they’re just backups that IC-0n can switch to if her primary body is destroyed? They’re probably all stored at the facility that Max stole IC-0n from, which would mean that Max is taking IC-0n to Kirie elsewhere so that the backup cubes can’t help in a fight, hence “if isolated.” Kirie estimates that both of their mass is very close so she would need every advantage if she does hope to kill IC-0n.
    Also I’d love to hear your analysis of Murder Drones, especially since we have a season trailer now.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +18

      That's one idea, I was thinking that maybe it's an AI thing where IC-0n can split off different parts of her consciousness (maybe this is what happens when she infects others and they don't break free) that she then gains additional power from. I'll definitely look into your theory, though!

  • @Dinomatrix21
    @Dinomatrix21 2 роки тому +55

    Nah, this isn't overthinking at all. This actually appears to be the correct base level of thinking necessary to understand Liam's stuff because jeezus was there a lot of lore in Murder Drones Episode 2. It gave us a huge lore dump in the same way the Internecion Cube episodes did. You did a really good dive on this and I think I actually understand it better now.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +3

      Thanks man, I really appreciate it!

  • @olegoleg258
    @olegoleg258 2 роки тому +154

    i still haven't fully given up hope that maybe, _maybe_ one day he will release another part of INTERNECION CUBE, as i really enjoyed it - both the story and the animation style (yes murder drones is higher quality, but there is a charm to the ones he did in the past that i cannot describe). also, i still remember the comment he did on the 3rd episode where he said "if i get [X, i forgot the actual number] of likes/subscribors i will release a beach episode, and i hope that he holds up that end of the bargain
    just like markiplier will create an only fans if certain conditions are met

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +27

      I said it on another comment but if Liam makes a beach episode I'll dedicate a whole video to it

    • @olegoleg258
      @olegoleg258 2 роки тому +18

      @@Tyromaniac don't lie, you just wanna have an excuse to rewatch it over and over to see some robot booba

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +24

      You didn't have to out me like that bro

    • @olegoleg258
      @olegoleg258 2 роки тому +14

      @@Tyromaniac nah bro, if I made videos like you I'd do the same "it's for the research" I'd say
      Anyways, thanks for the vid and have a nice day sir. I hope that we'll meet on UA-cam once again on an analysis video of a beach episode

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +14

      You have a nice day too, and I'll keep an eye out for ya

  • @FAAAN_LOL
    @FAAAN_LOL 2 роки тому +191

    hello. I myself sometimes make theories and I want to talk about those 3 things that you did not understand
    1) timer. Refinoc's affairs then wanted to be closed, I think that this is a timer until Refinoc is destroyed or closed
    2) Kirie has not been human since childhood, rather she is a technology hybrid created by Refinoc. I think it was created there, and the system was just buggy due to problems with Refinoc itself
    3) The minds of all cubes are connected to a common hive, except for the minds of IC-ON and Kirie, I think that when their minds are connected it is considered safe mode
    4) I have 2 theories. 1) this cat was Refinoc's organic manipulation training and it was their first experiment 2) the cubes have many abilities that weren't mentioned in the animatics, among Kirie's abilities is DNA reassembly.or the cat was normal but suffered from Kirie I myself am a fan and theorist of the cube If we can talk, I'll be glad to meet you and yet, Liam said that when his channel has 1 million subscribers, he will make a cube beach series

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +35

      Thanks for the comment, I'm gonna try to respond in order here... 1) The timer counting down to the closure of Refinoc (or at least that specific facility) would make sense, since a note on Kirie's nightstand mentions that the Eisenhower Tunnel will be demolished in the year 2033, which is before the series takes place. 2) That would definitely be interesting, and it would also explain the memory corruptions. 4) Both definitely seem possible, but I'm going to lean towards the second (for now). Also, if Liam does make a Beach Series, I'll make a whole new video dedicated to it specifically ;)

    • @azurengamer9392
      @azurengamer9392 2 роки тому +17

      Another possibility of the hive mind thing might be something akin to the hive minds of ants and bees, in those cases the hive is all female with one prime female leading the hive and producing more of the species, IC-ON might not just be important due to her being the original cube but she might be the only "queen cube" and without her no new cubes can be made, but that's just my thought after wondering about the hive mind and the fact that all the cubes we've seen so far are female.

    • @thoth7290
      @thoth7290 2 роки тому +9

      the cat couldve been an organism kyrie tried to synthesize, like the horrible chicken fetus ic-0n tried to make

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +6

      @@thoth7290 I think that's the theory that makes the most sense but I'm not entirely sure

    • @betenoire5635
      @betenoire5635 2 роки тому

      I think the cat was infected.

  • @thehighestmeta6573
    @thehighestmeta6573 2 роки тому +87

    FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED THIS SERIES

  • @IhaveaPHDinBoredom
    @IhaveaPHDinBoredom 2 роки тому +159

    “But that’s just a theory. A CUBE THEORY-“

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +26

      "-thanks for watching!"

  • @Qreator06
    @Qreator06 2 роки тому +87

    If Kirie is the first human to be infected by the cube, then we could call her IC-1n with Icin’ as how to pronounce it, and it fits her as she is the icing on the show(she said Baka)

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +17

      That's very true, although I don't think she's the first. The IC-01n to IC-40n signs were there before we see her get infected. The "baka" line is still incredibly based, though.

    • @Qreator06
      @Qreator06 2 роки тому +8

      @@Tyromaniac also, if ICs is like a virus and need a host then that must apply to our beloved IC-0n as well, which means her human form isnt really special conically, just the government's human test subject probably

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +11

      It could also be specialized persona she created on the spot by combining the traits of her past victims (kinda what Kirie implies in the phone call).

  • @luongmaihunggia
    @luongmaihunggia 2 роки тому +110

    The hard part would be figuring out who's lying and who's not

    • @corruptedplayer
      @corruptedplayer Рік тому +5

      ask them something they cannot get wrong. like "am i right handed?"

  • @Deerfoxer
    @Deerfoxer 2 роки тому +78

    Dude this is honestly so underrated. You deserve more subs

  • @Noam-k
    @Noam-k 2 роки тому +23

    (just a thought) The cat was probably near the facility and was caught up in the events, and although she technically caused it (while being controlled), she saved it from collateral damage while regaining some level of control and stopping its infection midway through or something, leading to the after effects of body parts melting but not being controlled and it probably goes around through smell and sound, which is why it knew where to look her and stuff

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      That honestly does make a lot of sense

  • @dr.robertnick9599
    @dr.robertnick9599 Рік тому +23

    Idea why the cat looks infected: Maybe Kirie found it dead and revived it by infecting it.

  • @thedoc7184
    @thedoc7184 Рік тому +12

    I hope one day this series is shown in all its glory and fully complete

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +3

      I do too, gotta see if I'm right

  • @harryjoe860
    @harryjoe860 26 днів тому +1

    This is the only time I’ve ever seen someone talk about this, it really does feel like a first draft for murder drones

  • @walterbrink5391
    @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +55

    Oh goodie! How the algorithm has cherished me today. I look forward to your career. Gotta give ya props man. You spotted stuff that not even I saw. And I’ve rewatched it so many times that I’ve memorised the entire script by heart. A very well orchestrated video with nothing that seems to far of a stretch nor explaining things that are painfully obvious. Not many gaps to find either, although it might be subject to change as the story progresses. (Which it will probably not :’D)

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +6

      Thanks man, I put a lot of effort into this video and I'm really happy that people are enjoying it!

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +3

      @@Tyromaniac I personally think Kirie is even more of a mangled mess than you already think she is. When she gets infected as a child, you see large globs of her flesh fall of her hands and with it, some of the Internecion cube and not having fully infected her. More than enough to change her, like making making her mind more digital, which is why in the flashback we all the people’s faces are full of errors and being able to reconfigure her body. But nit enough to have fully taken over her, still having some resemblance of human emotion and free will, allowing her to turn against what would otherwise be her own kind.
      Which leads me to my next point. The memory transfer between Kirie and the cube wasn’t fully completed. This why there are gaps in her memories and why she has to do normal human things manually, as that part of the brain that controls that hasn’t be fully transferred to the cube nor is still intact in her brain, along with her memory and even her emotions. This is why we see a lot more emotion in other two cubes than in her because her emotions are in an awkward grey area between her real biological brain and the digital Internecion cube, making them unusable.
      Kirie doesn’t know what monster she has become. Not human nor IC. She is neither nor both. A mistake. An error. This is why she wants revenge, because she doesn’t even know who or what she’s become.

  • @tickytickytango5634
    @tickytickytango5634 Рік тому +6

    I forgot how much I loved Internecion Cube.

  • @MouseCouldntFindFood
    @MouseCouldntFindFood 6 місяців тому +3

    The amount of parralels with between MD and this theory video is frightening... Definetly gonna come here again after last episode drops just to check how much of it fits.

  • @lakeman4228
    @lakeman4228 2 роки тому +18

    The cat was obviously a test subject before hand

  • @dreadassassin0
    @dreadassassin0 2 роки тому +36

    FINALLY SOMEONE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS SHOW

  • @hypernova8250
    @hypernova8250 2 роки тому +16

    This feels like a game theory video, it’s very well put together, nice job. I hope I live to see the day part 4 is released lol.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks a lot! Also yeah, I really hope there's a part four on the horizon

    • @mrmcface713
      @mrmcface713 Рік тому

      Film theory

  • @nabbitgohome9672
    @nabbitgohome9672 Рік тому +3

    I love the fact your mascot or what shows your videos as yourself is a flaming Tie and I like it it’s not everyday you see persons mascot or something that represents themselves is a tie/an object.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому

      I was too lazy to draw an actual persona when I started my channel so now I'm forever cursed to be a sentient piece of clothing lol

    • @nabbitgohome9672
      @nabbitgohome9672 Рік тому

      @@Tyromaniac can you control people? Or I can image that asdf scene where the guys say YOU GOT TO HELP MY TIE IS A SPY AND IS GOTTA KILL ME! (The guy leaves) the person says please don’t hurt me and the tie you is holding a knife or something.

  • @dinasyzhirckow8040
    @dinasyzhirckow8040 2 роки тому +10

    Actually I really want the continue of the story, he's just a little more serious than Murder drones, which is more interesting to me.

  • @janedevain5827
    @janedevain5827 Рік тому +6

    lackadaisy: not yet
    Internecion cube: completed, wait for next parts
    Murder drones: completed, wait for next parts
    Pink corruption:completed…wait for next parts
    Fnaf: done (kinda)
    Helluva boss: yes ofc, wait for next parts
    hazbin hotel: i only watched the pilot, kinda?
    cats are liquid: done, i wish there was more
    watching lackadaisy now.

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ 2 роки тому +15

    I really hope one day we see a continuation of this story.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      I'm staying cautiously optimistic

    • @EasyNickName
      @EasyNickName 2 роки тому +2

      it will! just with murder drones Liam just focusing at it, im pretty sure that some day, when he will be bored outta his ass/ over with first season of MD, he will take a look at his previous projects like cliffside and Internecion cube.

  • @sasha1mama
    @sasha1mama 7 місяців тому +2

    It helps to know that internecion is 'the assimilation of assets into an interconnected network'.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  6 місяців тому

      I think that's the definition for interconnection, I think Internecion means mutual destruction

  • @micahcarter9645
    @micahcarter9645 Рік тому +10

    I bet Max knows Kirie is infected, but is keeping a low profile and pretending hes just a fool, so he can see how far Kirie will go to get revenge, and if she still has some human in her.

  • @splatem546
    @splatem546 2 роки тому +4

    Nice to see that someone remembers this...

  • @ShadowShydemon
    @ShadowShydemon 2 роки тому +8

    I'm so happy someone else recognized the Eisenhower tunnel!

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      To be fair, it is written on Kirie's nightstand

  • @Iron_Soil
    @Iron_Soil 2 роки тому +3

    honestly ma favorite of liam trio
    happy for murder drones to be like spritual succesor to the miniseries

  • @Sentient_Scarab_Swarm
    @Sentient_Scarab_Swarm 2 роки тому +5

    Tbh that seems pretty accurate. I mean we know nothing about the background but this seems pretty plausible

  • @AtomicR053
    @AtomicR053 Рік тому +6

    Considering that there were at least 313 tests with the cube on human hosts, I don’t think it’s so ridiculous to say there was an experiment with a cat host at some point.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому

      Fair, they had to have tried it at some point

  • @muserweaver
    @muserweaver 8 місяців тому +3

    "You thinkin about it? Don't think about it!"

  • @clayharris7740
    @clayharris7740 Рік тому +4

    Kirie has a absolutely terrifying but beautiful design 8:26 10:10 And her smile is VERY creepy

  • @DCPTF2
    @DCPTF2 2 роки тому +10

    "preoccupied" is a nice way of saying "abandoned another project to die for the new flashy thing"

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +5

      I'm clinging onto optimism for as long as I can lol

    • @DCPTF2
      @DCPTF2 2 роки тому +3

      @@Tyromaniac he seems to do it to much for the benefit of the doubt anymore, pretty sure Murder Drones was a DoA because of how much more complicated it was

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      I think Murder Drones is the ONE that is getting finished, Glitch has been posting teaser images on their channel the past couple weeks so it's probably coming out soon

    • @DCPTF2
      @DCPTF2 2 роки тому +2

      @@Tyromaniac people thought Puppet game was going to get finished too, if Glitch does finish it i am betting that it will be them alone who does it rather then as a team

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +6

      I don't know, I'm sure they have Liam chained to a chair somewhere so they can bounce ideas off of him lol

  • @fotismanolopoulos1098
    @fotismanolopoulos1098 2 роки тому +29

    I am unsure if the idea that the mechanical body being a separate weapon is truly valid, mostly because we haven't really seen what it exclusively can do (so far all of IC0N'S powers seem to have the cube as their origin). I find it more likely that the mechanical body was always intended for her probably as a means of control, since containment IS a running theme and the enforcement of "programming" on the clearly not truly mechanical cube could be achieved via giving it mechanical host rather than a biological one.
    Also the concept of the hiveminds is a tad weird... IC0N would surely have more knowledge of how human things work if we are to assume she was in control of the "original" strain. The dissociative strain clearly refers to Kirie herself but then the 2 OTHER cubes we've seen also seem fully independent,so are we to assume all 4 cube instances currently disconnected from the original strain? But the very hivemind-ish talk from the vending machine was clearly meant to come off as some version of IC0N and she's the origin cube...
    Perhaps the mechanical body was a means of separating her from control of said hivemind (and probably giving her the convenient memory loss) on top of simply making her easy to control but binding her to it resulted in a ton of dissociative strains and thus we get weeb duo?
    Or perhaps the strains refer more to the individual cubes themselves? It makes some sense, if we assume that B refers to Kirie herself, thus why it's values are known in the equation while A refers to IC0N and thus why it's values are just ???
    Also,even though another comment already mentioned it,Kirie is implied to not be fully human even before her meeting with IC0N... Or,well,THAT version of IC0N.
    COMPLICATIONS. And with what was for me a REVEAL that Cleo is involved (hadn't watched the content of the old channel yet back in my initial watches of the 3 episodes) I am sure there's at least 1 twist we are unable to predict at all because,well,that is just how Liam writes...

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +7

      Thanks for the feedback! I do like your theory about the mechanical body, and I think that you could actually combine it with mine (meaning it was originally meant to be a weapon but then got turned into a containment device for IC-0n). Also, just thought I'd add that when I said "hive-mind" I was more thinking that IC-0n can control the actions and intentions of the other cubes but can't access their thoughts or memories. The dissociated strain, meanwhile, would be almost completely detached from the hive, and while I do think that IC-313n is part of it, I'm not so sure about IC-52n yet. But hey, all of this is based on like 20 minutes of footage and Liam does love his twists so who knows ;)

    • @thegamingcobra1059
      @thegamingcobra1059 Рік тому +2

      I think this might have also maybe mind wiped the other strains or at least some of them as when kieri kills the one cube host in episode 3 it says "I don't understand what I did" but this runs into problems like why does kiri know and the weebs then there's only so much information to go off of

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      @@thegamingcobra1059 "only so much information to go off" yeah, it hurts trying to solve a season's worth of lore based off 22 minutes total

  • @emmavata9159
    @emmavata9159 Місяць тому +3

    The solver and the cube are very similar almost like two different races hating each other

  • @lukebristol10
    @lukebristol10 2 роки тому +11

    Oh man, just when I thought I had the whole story figured out, you came in and added some new ideas to the pot.
    Firstly, I didn’t even realize the lady’s name was Cleo. Epic.
    Your theory about the cubes being powerless on their own until they infect something makes sense! It fills in a lot of blanks as to why different ICs have different personalities. Just like left hand parasites take on the traits and personalities of their hosts, cubes must do the same thing! Icon took over the body of an android WMD, taking on what its programming was. Kirie and 52n must be the same way. 52 even didn’t understand what happened because she was the cube herself.
    Thank you for this video, you’re awesome!

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks man! Although, a few of my theories are probably gonna get proven wrong when (if) part four comes out haha

  • @diegoxavier9107
    @diegoxavier9107 2 роки тому +13

    That's pretty cool, man. I noticed one thing you neglected to go deep into was the *source* of IC-0n's humanity? If every time she's infected someone, they've become autonomous and divergent without properly "teaching" her (as evidenced by her lack of understanding of anything human), then does the cube itself have a soul? It's clear she's infatuated with Max (perhaps not as much as Kirie lol), and being in love with someone is a pretty clear indication of a unique personality (in other words, not a facsimile or copy). We also see another cube beg for her life, just as Kirie murders her. Is it possible that the cube and IC-0n were originally separate entities and the cube merely successfully overwrit the og host's body and completely assimilated it, but in the process actually became... well, human? Vickers is pretty insane

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +3

      My assumption with the other cubes was that the Cube adopts the host personality as part of the infection (essentially becoming the host in the process). However, you're right that I didn't go that deep into IC-0n specifically. My assumption is that Kirie was half-right when she said that "any innocence or humanity you see in the Origin Cube is a perverse disguise born of the mountains of corpses it's consumed". IC-0n probably did get her humanity by leeching it from her past victims, but I don't think it's a disguise. I think she's genuinely becoming human (at least mentally) as a result of infecting others in the past and can't figuring out why or what's happening to her (perhaps explaining the identity crisis Max alluded to).

  • @Noggist1
    @Noggist1 2 роки тому +6

    Difference is that N was affected by the railgun in some psychological way, in like one of his five senses being temporary removed due to that. It affected his judgement and carried on into his normal self

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      Not entirely, the warning text on his face display implies that it was his Optic Sensor specifically that was damaged, leading me to think that his judgment and reasoning were left unaffected. The only thing that changed was that he couldn't tell that Uzi was a Worker Drone and therefore stopped trying to kill her long enough to hear her out.

    • @DWal32
      @DWal32 Рік тому

      Well he didn't know what a worker drone actually sounds like when it's not being murdered. And heard what seems to be a completely regular disassembly drone voice. And also didnt have proper pattern recognition due to getting his head vaporized by a makeshift railgun... N probably wasn't affected psychologically, beyond failing to recognize Uzi as a worker drone at least. He's just like that.

  • @scootpilgrim2211
    @scootpilgrim2211 2 роки тому +7

    the algorithms have blessed me today. May the algorithms now bring this video to the presence of Liam.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      I tried emailing him but he never got back to me

  • @lukebristol10
    @lukebristol10 3 місяці тому +1

    Internecion Cubes are swarms of nanomachines. That's my main theory.

  • @emmic2399
    @emmic2399 Місяць тому +1

    Im guessing something happened to the origin cube that made them "boot in safe mode" maybe losing memory and the come back to us kirie maybe was from before the safe mode thing happened.
    Also the cat I think is something that kirie made like how Icon tried to make eggs and it ended up being messed up maybe kirie is better at it but still can't do it accurately so they look funny.
    The two guys who show up at the end I think are government agents and the dude who had the cube was a real administrator.

  • @ghostcorpse3016
    @ghostcorpse3016 2 роки тому +12

    This is pretty solid,
    But I had the impression that the cube on the heart scene wasn’t Ic0n’s heart, But Kirie’s, Ic0n has “met” Kirie, and assimilated her heart tissue, which allows her to sustain herself, while a small fragment is left behind, which is why Kirie is so fucked up.
    I think that anyone assimilated by Ic0n begins to loose their humanity, like Kirie, and gains the power that we see from Kirie and Ic313n, side note, Kirie may be Ic1n.
    Ic313n seems to either have just leaned into it, or has forgotten who she was, whereas Kirie seems to retain her memory, which is why she’s still able to atleast pretend to be normal, and is also why she wants revenge, and to destroy herself in the process.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the feedback, I'll keep that in mind if/when I make a part two!

  • @Khrisdharman48
    @Khrisdharman48 4 місяці тому +5

    Poor Kirie

  • @canadaball9730
    @canadaball9730 2 роки тому +8

    damn some ppl still remember interection cube

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      To be fair, I only discovered it a couple months ago

    • @canadaball9730
      @canadaball9730 2 роки тому +3

      @@Tyromaniac heh. I discovered it like when it was just came out. Sad that the Liam Vickers didnt ended no one of his projects(

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I'm really hoping he finishes Internecion Cube after Murder Drones comes out

    • @canadaball9730
      @canadaball9730 2 роки тому

      @@Tyromaniac true

  • @cryptedwolf2008
    @cryptedwolf2008 2 роки тому +3

    I am definitely not confused.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      Me neither, I totally understand everything and in no way pulled my hair out making this video

  • @MayBeSomething
    @MayBeSomething 2 роки тому +5

    Kirie's flashback showed a display that went from 84 : 09 : 32 to 84 : 09 : 31 (right before going into the room to meet her dad's team). Then, later, just before her dad introduced her to his team, a similar display show 84 : 0X : 29 (X being blocked out by a researcher's body). Am I the only one who noticed that? If not, what is it counting down to?
    Edit: Nvm, he mentions it.

  • @mrap4249
    @mrap4249 2 роки тому +6

    Woah, that was cool, you really deserve more subs

  • @Crimson-Pasta-And-Cheese
    @Crimson-Pasta-And-Cheese Рік тому +1

    I still hope that Internecion Cube will be continued at least in the far future.

  • @TheGenericVideoGamer
    @TheGenericVideoGamer Рік тому +4

    My mind is combusting

  • @SymmbolZS
    @SymmbolZS Рік тому +5

    Well... my brains overloaded XD

  • @mystery5252
    @mystery5252 Рік тому +1

    It was never confirmed be Liam Vickers.
    But I think IC-On is the original version
    of the Murder Drones, Absolute Solver.

  • @erickmoczulski1582
    @erickmoczulski1582 2 роки тому +2

    Yay! People still remamber this show. :D

  • @GreenGuyGeno
    @GreenGuyGeno 6 місяців тому +2

    I can list all the reasons and parallels why and how Murder Drones is a spiritual successor and revision of Internecion Cube but we will be here all day. Down to robot girls possessed by eldritch horrors that turn them into cabalistic machines with an endless stomach and way too many tentacles with knives. And the romantic b-plot.

  • @Echo1ngEcho
    @Echo1ngEcho Рік тому +4

    This made.. so much- god damb, sense .

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      That's what I was shooting for, glad it worked out

    • @Echo1ngEcho
      @Echo1ngEcho Рік тому +1

      @@Tyromaniac coolio, I honestly enjoy watching what other people think on theories and such, just to see if people had a similar idea to my theories, so maybe there’s a higher chance of it being real

  • @NoHandle44
    @NoHandle44 Рік тому

    This is like Murder Drones before Murder Drones became a thing.

  • @puncakesop2805
    @puncakesop2805 2 роки тому +5

    man i randomly say this rn and i wish there was more of internecion cube

  • @blondy1528
    @blondy1528 2 місяці тому

    now that murder drones is finished i really hope that Liam decides to continue this series it would be amazing to see where it goes

  • @nadian_syrup4731
    @nadian_syrup4731 2 роки тому +3

    Man am I glad I stumbled upon this video it was really cool seeing someone look into intercion cube because man I was so confused lol

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! Although I gotta admit, I was pretty confused making this video

  • @bollognerguy1863
    @bollognerguy1863 Рік тому +1

    Thank You so much, I've Yearned for a theory on Internacion cube

  • @DAY-T-萊斯利
    @DAY-T-萊斯利 Рік тому +1

    You let me finally understand what the plot of this animation is about

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      I tried, but I could be wrong lol

    • @DAY-T-萊斯利
      @DAY-T-萊斯利 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Tyromaniac I think that even if there is something wrong in your guess, you have noticed what I didn't notice and connected these details. You are very good. I wish you 10,000 subscriptions as soon as possible.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      @@DAY-T-萊斯利 Thank you, I appreciate that!

  • @pouncelygrin6699
    @pouncelygrin6699 Рік тому +1

    Wow, no cap, with your theories and explanations it feels like the whole picture of the puzzle has been completed except for its edges cause the whole story needs a conclusion, if ya' get what I mean.
    This video is great, had my gears turning in my head and all that jazz, keep up the great work dude 👍

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, really appreciate it! Also, that's basically what my second video is gonna be, just kinda crafting a narrative that connects my existing theories instead of creating new ones

    • @pouncelygrin6699
      @pouncelygrin6699 Рік тому

      @@Tyromaniac nice, looking forward to it

  • @AverageWaddleDeeFan
    @AverageWaddleDeeFan 2 роки тому +9

    I truly appreciate what you have done. A true legend to the c00bers.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      You're welcome, all in a day's work

  • @unknownsux7995
    @unknownsux7995 Місяць тому

    i aint gonna lie, im getting closer to making a fan comic for this every day

  • @That_weird_guy_Dragooon
    @That_weird_guy_Dragooon 7 місяців тому

    deep down i hope to see liam finishing this series

  • @alessiotassangurle2247
    @alessiotassangurle2247 2 роки тому +4

    Banger of a video my man, watched it with ma frien

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      Thanks man, glad to hear you enjoyed it! I know I enjoyed making it!

  • @Tanaki_kami
    @Tanaki_kami 2 роки тому +1

    It’s my favourite mini story on UA-cam

  • @kingj9664
    @kingj9664 2 роки тому +2

    love the video and hope this series continues

  • @a-red_digit6644
    @a-red_digit6644 2 роки тому +44

    Im suprised that you didnt bring up the similarities between Julie and Kirie. Maybe its because of spoiler's sake

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +11

      I guess I just didn't see it, I was more focused on the Kirie-Director connection. There was also some similarity between her and John (having fathers that work at Refinoc) that I didn't mention. That said, I'll definitely look into the Kirie-Julie connection now, thank you!

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +3

      They are basically the same person (if they even are considered people). They have similar backstories. Infected by a left hand (Internecion Cube) aka Kali (IC-0n) in a traumatic event having lost her humanity and seeks revenge on the one who infected her with the help of the main protagonist. She stalks him and fantasises a relation ship with him. All an elaborate plan to succeed with her own goal. The only real difference is that we know that Julie was a psycho from the start and always wanted John cus yandere stuff. Now that I think about it, Kali is pretty similar IC-0n to too. And heck even John and Max! Internecion Cube is just Design buy in an animatic by this point. Liam is so lazy with his story writing

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +4

      Say what you will about him plagiarizing himself, it makes the lore easier to solve

    • @walterbrink5391
      @walterbrink5391 2 роки тому +1

      @@Tyromaniac When you think about it, Internecion Cube is just CliffSide + Design

  • @Unclaimed_Username
    @Unclaimed_Username 11 місяців тому +1

    Before I watch this, this is my theory: This series is basically dead, but at the same time it's not. There's CLEARLY a lot of influence from this taken over to Murder Drones, and I feel like that's a more refined and/or marketable version of Internecion Cube. Namely the change of making the bulk of them robots so that the extreme violence is acceptable.

    • @Unclaimed_Username
      @Unclaimed_Username 11 місяців тому +1

      Okay so not JUST this series, but a lot of others. But the visual aesthetic as well as general design do take a lot of cues from this one.
      The scene of Kirie getting infected was a nightmare, which is why there's the weird glitches over the adults and the vending machine being able to talk to past kirie, because it's talking to the current one through her memories. I think that everthing they think ICON is, Kyrie actually is. In the flashback, we see her killing everyone and ensuring that she was the only one left....just like what Icon wants to do. There's more, but the general idea is that Kyrie is the devil and icon is the variant strain.

  • @Wyi-the-rogue
    @Wyi-the-rogue 2 роки тому +1

    How to die immediately:
    Call ic-0n dense.

  • @Chaos_7
    @Chaos_7 11 місяців тому +1

    I want internaction cube part 4 so much

  • @TrulyAndasen
    @TrulyAndasen Рік тому

    Just had a very cool thought, Rex the cat could be the result of Kirie trying her newfound power on living organism (in this case a cat) but since she is not the origin cube, Rex only turned into its ghoulish appearance without power to assimilate or create things, and only act as it was normally, that's probably why Kirie took Rex in, since she probably didn't want Rex roaming the streets and expose her.

  • @NoHandle44
    @NoHandle44 Рік тому

    How tf can there be so much information put into just 3 episodes?
    How does the writer have this much story to tell. And in little hints and easter eggs too! Like, what?!

  • @clayharris7740
    @clayharris7740 Рік тому

    10:31 and like Kirie Ic-0n's design is awesome but at times very horrifying

  • @arabicnokiaringtone3435
    @arabicnokiaringtone3435 Рік тому

    "we gotta go to Bendigo to get me cube" - bushworld rick, 2018

  • @immortalinaros8751
    @immortalinaros8751 2 місяці тому

    It's sad that the series is dead. I mean I get that it was just a doodle and Murder Drones is more important, but it could have been such a great show on it's own.

  • @ryokami_needs_coffee
    @ryokami_needs_coffee 2 роки тому +9

    Dude that was so helpfull and holly crap, this was a good video

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks, glad to be of service!

  • @sythrin144
    @sythrin144 Рік тому

    We still need that beach episode. I think it will answer all questions!

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому

      Of course it will, and that's the ONLY reason I need it! Yesss...

  • @Yuri_Manager
    @Yuri_Manager 2 роки тому

    this just led me to believe that V1 and icon would be friends

  • @Grey8270
    @Grey8270 Рік тому

    Liam Vickers is a visionary so I’m glad to see a channel focused on his work and trying to piece them together great work

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  Рік тому +1

      For as painful as it was I still enjoyed doing it, and Liam DO know how to make some good stuff

    • @Grey8270
      @Grey8270 Рік тому

      @@Tyromaniac yeah so far I’ve watched all of Murder Drones and Internecion cube and I’m almost done with Yellow Halogen and from those examples of his stories they seem to follow the pattern of starting off rather straight forward and simple but as they progress they get more complicated demanding close attention being paid to the dialogue and background details but the more you figure out and discover the more questions you get (edit just finished Yellow Halogen I loved it but I’m surprised at how part 8 practically spelled out everything not saying it as a bad thing just surprised and sad season 2 got canceled but the ending to season 1 works on its own)

  • @williamwyatt4972
    @williamwyatt4972 7 місяців тому +1

    if only it was continued

  • @totally-a-normal-human
    @totally-a-normal-human 2 роки тому +5

    2:56 timestamp for theorising

  • @YogurtEnjoyer5611
    @YogurtEnjoyer5611 Рік тому +1

    I think I’m stupid. I miss read the title the first time I watched Internecion Cube and have been calling it “Interconection Cube” ever since 💀

  • @healioxflame3624
    @healioxflame3624 2 роки тому

    I need to look more into Liam's stuff, didn't realize there was anything before Internicion cube/that channel

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      Yeah, I only found out cause Black Dogs and PuppetGAME kept showing up in my recommended after I found LV Animation

  • @Wyi-the-rogue
    @Wyi-the-rogue 2 роки тому +1

    My story prediction:
    Something will catch fire.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      I'd say the diner already has

  • @McCbobbish
    @McCbobbish Рік тому +1

    Given murder drones episode 2, I suspect that IC0N is the progenitor of the absolute solver.

    • @kallelvieira4412
      @kallelvieira4412 Рік тому +1

      Seria legal kkkk

    • @McCbobbish
      @McCbobbish Рік тому

      @@kallelvieira4412 what?

    • @kallelvieira4412
      @kallelvieira4412 Рік тому

      @@McCbobbish português Brasileiro

    • @CordeiroLúcido
      @CordeiroLúcido 6 місяців тому

      ​@@kallelvieira4412(Conversa de Brasileiros agora)
      Fala bro, sobre as séries bem, eu pessoalmente prefiro internecion cube sobre murder drones, a história seria mais interessante para e até melhor que murder drones em alguns aspectos

  • @LuxrayLloyd
    @LuxrayLloyd 2 роки тому +2

    My jaw literally dropped when I saw that you have less than 1k viewers! That cannot be right!

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому

      I'm sure it'll get up there one day, but I'm grateful for what I have now

  • @justcallmeleonardo
    @justcallmeleonardo Рік тому

    Yooooo my man bringing up the real old stuff. That's cool, they are real important to understand where Liam came from and where he's going.

  • @SoggyMalk
    @SoggyMalk Місяць тому

    I think maybe that Kirie was previously infected by some sort of IC-0n or cube and that she was being tracked or something like that. as you see in episode 2 that her dad's face is weird and blacked out and so are his co-workers.

  • @darkonyx6995
    @darkonyx6995 2 роки тому +10

    Tyromaniac, do you plan on making a video speculating on Unpaid Redactions and the little to no information we have about this series?
    Also, in my interpretation, the skeleton-monster thingy that infected Kirie was actually IC-52n, but in a irregular mental state, with no self-control. The reasons are:
    First, the 'satanical rambling' of that monstruous thingy in Kirie's desk has a hair that is nearly identical to 52n's hair;
    Second, this would also explain the flashback Kirie had before cutting to the classroom and the sketches on the desk, which otherwise would be something that just came straight out of nowhere;
    And lastly, 52n says that "she doesn't understand what she did wrong" right before being slaughtered by Kirie, which i think is a pretty clear hint that she actually did something awful, without knowledge, and that she was the skeletal figure that coobed Kirie.

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +5

      I did actually notice the hair, but my interpretation is that Kirie was just drawing IC-52n the way she saw her (as a monster) because she was her most recent kill. It makes more sense to me personally that IC-0n would be the one who infected Kirie.
      Also, with how little Unpaid Redactions content there is, any "theories" I have would just be me making stuff up. It would be a fun idea, though...

    • @darkonyx6995
      @darkonyx6995 2 роки тому +3

      @@Tyromaniac I think you could divide the video in two parts, the facts, where you would cover up the old and new cast, the history of UR concepts posted in Liam's site since 2018, the reddit exclusive concept images, etc... Then in the second part you could clarify that everything from now on is speculation on how the story may be and if UR may be in development.
      Btw, your channel is severely underrated, your videos are so well made and it sucks that they have such a small reach, i hope the best for you, and i'll follow your content ;)

    • @Tyromaniac
      @Tyromaniac  2 роки тому +3

      That would be a good idea, I'll definitely think about it. Also, thanks, I appreciate it!

    • @theplushtoywolf1038
      @theplushtoywolf1038 2 роки тому +3

      I sorta had my own theory with this as well
      When 52 is initially wounded we see that the wounded parts begin melting.
      In Kirie’s drawing, 52’s face is also melting - you can probably see where I’m going with this.
      I think this drawing might have been a post-face slash 52, meaning I think there is a chance 52 could be alive, which would also add to why Kirie has the memory fresh, Kirie could be still looking out for 52.
      Well that’s the quick summary of my theory, there is some other stuff in it like when I think the encounter took place but I won’t bother you with that unless you’re interested.

  • @leightonkekuewa1545
    @leightonkekuewa1545 9 місяців тому

    I think you Story Predictions are the most probably path of events.

  • @guacamoleman3253
    @guacamoleman3253 2 роки тому +1

    I fucking LOVE that cube

  • @AnimatorBird
    @AnimatorBird 2 місяці тому +1

    It’s 2 years later and I doubt you’ll ever see this, but I wanna say that I love your theories and noticed something that I don’t think you covered in your video. So we’ve deduced that the cube has two strands, the A and B, and how they oppose eachother. Well something fun I noticed is that for I.C-0n and Kirie’s theme music, they are called theme A and theme B respectively. I feel like there’s no way it’s not related. After all, I.C-0n doesn’t have a theme B, and Kirie doesn’t have a theme A. This would imply that Kirie herself is the dissociative strand, and her end goal may be to assimilate/reach power greater than I.C-0n to ensure their mutual destruction. Also, as a bonus, “Internecion” is a term for mutually assured destruction/massacre, which is neat. Just wanted to mention it :)
    P.S. sorry if ya mentioned any of this in your later videos, haven’t watched them yet so my bad if so