New Alco PA-1 Locomotive and 3D Scan from Rapido Trains!
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2019
- Jordan Smith and Bill Schneider introduce Rapido's new HO scale Alco PA and PB locomotives by doing a 3D scan of the real PA-1 owned by Doyle McCormack at the Oregon Rail Heritage Center. Features an interview with Doyle and a broad overview of the new models.
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Music by Ferenc Hegedus, used under license. Thanks also to the Oregon Pacific Railroad for giving us a fun cab ride! - Наука та технологія
God, I love trains, always have in my 67 plus years. So glad to see Rapido gaining a serious interest in detail.
Thanks! We've always been interested in detail. We're not the same Rapido as those 1960s N scale models. More info on our products can be found here: rapidotrains.com
Nice news from Rapido, but even better news that we finally have some information on the current status of the Doyles PA-1.
Happy to provide an update!
Those PA-1's are so sweet. Best wishes on this new, exciting Rapido Trains project !!!
Thanks! We're excited about it!
Hi Dean!
@@rapidotrains I'm excited too! Hope you consider making the Union Pacific FA-1s too!
love the funny humor that you guys put in to these videos. keep it up
Thanks!
"Hey hosers wrong engine!" LOL at the beginning.
I AM QUITE GLAD TO HAVE WORKED WITH THE SANTA FE
PA FLEET WHEN I WAS AN AT&SF
LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE!
Thanks for sharing!
I'm excited for the SP version. The prototype drawings look awesome
Thanks! We should have a first painted SP sample to show in Feb or March!
@@rapidotrains Nice.
“Hey hoser wrong engine” 🤣
Bill is wondering what a "hoser" is... 😆
Hoser; Wow, true Canadians?
I can't wait for these new steam locomotives!
Er, they're close enough. Beautiful models, though, love the PAs
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GE knows how to make a smoke unit for sure.
Great video. I love the PA & I've been following Dale's progress. Very cool!
Thanks! We're excited about it!
It was a thrill to see this gorgeous PA in person at Spencer during the streamliner event.
Same for us, it was awesome to see her in person!
Part of the proceeds from this project should go to financing the restoration of Doel McCormicks PA👍🏻
We are looking into that right now. Watch our newsletter for an announcement.
I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. McCormick at the Streamliners event in NC at the Transportation Museum a few years back. I even helped in washing the 190 to get her ready for the debut on the turntable. Great times with great people.
Thanks for sharing the memories!
Those PAs really have a classy look to them. Wish there were more of them still around.
They are truly beautiful!
@@rapidotrains .. the O gauge train set I got on Christmas 1958 has a New Haven road PA with it.
I don’t really collect HO scale trains but have a few of the Rapido Fishbowl buses.You can see from this video and others done by Rapido that all the employees really like what they do. I admittedly don’t know anything about the train they are featuring in this video but the attention to detail is incredible to me. Accuracy is very important to these guys. Other companies that are out there producing collectibles or models in any scale should pay attention. Most companies won’t even directly address their customers .These guys are actually introducing themselves to their customers.I wish them continued success.
Thanks for your kind words!
Nice to see that Jordan wasn’t the one left behind this time. Great video as always. -Mark
Thanks! Craig is still there...
Enjoy watching you guys love your job. Great job guys!
Thanks! 👍
It was awesome coming down and getting to meet all of you! Great to see this engine and can’t wait for the N scale version!
Oh, and if you decide to break into narrow gauge, remember Oregon has that too! But on the east side. 😁
Great seeing you too! More N scale is definitely planned...
Thanks guys at Rapido for doing the ATSF Alco PA/PB im exited about this as i already have an old original release of Proto2000 sets of ABBA units that are nice but... u know its not Rapido !!So these will be a very very nice addition to my fleet !!💖💖💖
Fantastic!
Just preordered mine today! Can't wait to get it!
Great, thanks for the order!
Love the sense of humour in the video! :)
Thanks!
Glad to see Alco's glamor girl in a model of this caliber, especially my beloved Espee's "varieties"! Southern Pacific had the biggest fleet of PAs, btw, and Rapido's models appear to be very faithful reproductions.
Thanks a lot!
I don't do model trains anymore and I totally want to get one of these PAs. Great-looking engines.
Maybe it can get you back into the hobby!
Very nicely done! On a side note of interest, I believe former D&RGW Alco PB-1 #600B is currently being used out of Sault on the Agawa Canyon Tour Train (former Algoma Central) but being used as a HEP car. You might want to give that a looksie if you have the time for it.
That is very true.
Ah! It's all just pure joy!😀. Regards Stephen.
Thanks!
Amazing!!
Thanks!
Very awesome video
Thanks!
@@rapidotrains can you please make a model Canadian Pacific 1246 and she was in Steamtown
I'd buy one but again, wrong era. Sadly.
However, it makes me so happy to see a company appreciate the Lehigh Valley Railroad. She may be gone but it's definitely not forgotten.
We'll keep on doing LV models... but we wish LV painted all their Cornell engines the same!😆
Nice video!
Thanks!
those hg6`s look grate and theres a 1392 model witch still exists in running order at alberta railway musem
Wow! Thats a rare paint job!
It’s gorgeous!
190 is still at the Oregon Rail Heritage Center!
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@@rapidotrains cool place! there was an NKP RSD-4 on the property when I visited.
Awesome restored loco
It's a beauty.
0:47 Mth and bachmann must be relieved lol.
Indeed! 😁
MTH sure will be relieved since it’s going to go in the next years
Aye..to Rapido production! 👌
Thanks!
Wow! I was wondering if hoping for Rapido PAs was expecting too much - I guess not!!
Happy to be of service!
Wow! Just Wow!
Thanks!
Finally an accurate model of the PA.
I hope they won’t cost an arm and a leg !😬
Two legs but only one arm...🤣
rapidotrains oh good! At least we will have one hand so we can still work on our model railroads 😂
LOVE IT! Sure love to see your factory in China. GREAT MODELS!!!
Thanks a lot!
Great seeing you here!
Will your PA-1's smoke like an Alco? 😄
Unfortunately we don't want to give our customers cancer... 😁
@@rapidotrains HA HAHA#**COUGH#**CHOKE!
@@rapidotrains It would be worth it!!
Great video guys! If you make them in N scale, you can put me down for two Nickel Plate’s for sure!
Thanks! Maybe one day...
Another great Rapido model. Any plans to make the actual Nickel Plate 190?
There are indeed plans. Keep an eye on our newsletter!
Where's the hoser who leaned so far out of the GMD-1 he almost fell? Bill, I saw you with that camera! :)
Sou do Brasil, aqui também tinham as PAs e FAs.
A Little Joe também.
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Please, please do Southern Railway early scheme if there is a second production run.
We're pretty sure there will be a second run...
I have a HO PA & PB 1 from Athearn from the late 70s. They are in the Erie Lackawana paint, which I don't think they ever had, as a 13 year old at the time, I thought they were cool!!
Looking forward to seeing the 190 moving under its own power one day.
Soon!
Cool 😎
When are the comet coaches coming out ive been taking tallies everyday.
We're still taking orders until February. They will probably arrive in September-ish.
Jordan wearing Jordan 3's
Please start doing o scale, I'm sure you can do a lot better with being correct than lionel
Maybe one day...
I won't name other big model train comapnies, but considering they have more income than Rapido and yet they don't bother to put the time or care into 3D modeling ad scanning their locomotives against the RL version, speaks more about Rapido's dedication to quality models.
Thanks for your kind words! Compound curves are really hard to get right so we need the scan.
Soundtrack: the sound you over-dubbed for the loco moving sounded like a 244 12-cylinder prime mover...didn't these locos have the 244 16-cylinder unit?
They did have a 244 V16, but we dubbed over the existing 244 v12 for the video to be entertaining. This doesn’t represent what sound the model will have. Oddly enough the 190 is now equipped with a 12V 251C from a retired M420b.
Shame he didn't fit a V16! I imagine you could pick one up at virtually every street corner in India. Are there any operable 244 V16 prime movers still in existence? I believe there is one in Mexico at a museum? It is surely a hunt for the rarest of the rare locomotive prime movers.
@@rapidotrains from the BC Rail 686
Need to 3D scan a Santa Fe 1050 class!
One thing at a time! 😆
Any plans to make the D&H PA-4 MK rebuilds eventually?
They are a totally unique beastie. We honestly don't know if we would ever make back the tooling investment.
@@rapidotrains Yeah that's understandable. I'll still pick up the D&H PA-1s though!
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You guys should make a C40-8W/C40-8. Scale Trains is only making the C39-8, and ik that Atlas made a batch of em but, they suck at everything and as a rapido fan I'd love too see a Dash 8 by you guys because y'all are amazing at every model you guys make.
Thanks for your kind words! We have a lot of transition era stuff to get out of the way first, but maybe later!
Okay, thanks guys!
Cool.
Thanks!
While some of Santa Fe's PA's had their roofs painted silver in latter years , Most kept their Stainless roofs to the end. Please do them with the stainless roofs and not what all the other plastic manufactures( Precision Craft, MTH, and Walthers) did and paint them silver. D&H 19 kept her stainless roof, The other 3 got painted silver.
Thanks, Tom. I've passed your message on to Bill. He will double check and we'll do them stainless if needed.
*Would love using that laser scanning technique to help recreate "real", operational locomotives full scale from scratch...*
Inside the NKP 190 will beat the hart of the BC Rail 868 M420B that was badly damaged in a derailment in northern British Columbia. So using the sound tracks from the M420 program should work for the PA project...PA4!
YES YES YES YES YYYYYEEEESSSS
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Will the PA DCC/Sound models include keep-alive capacitors?
That is the plan!
Nothing as classic as the famous PA! This model was such a beautiful locomotive, unfortunately beset with so many issues like the FAs. Thankfully we have five units: one in Brazil, two in Mexico, and two in the US. One converted B unit also exists.
I hope NKP 190 will run again soon, as well as ATSF 59 in the future.
Indeed! We are very lucky that a few of these still exist!
Where is the BP unit?
Will the NH orange and green scheme be in the second run?
Very likely!
Ok, how is it possible for it not to be operational and yet still be able to move itself?
I've been trying to find out about 190's status for about eight years and this is the biggest chunk of info I've ever found! In addition, I had thought 190 was the only "running" PA in existance but as it turns out, one of the two left in Mexico is in fact operational! I believe it's N de M #DH-19.
As we said in the caption, it was special effects. The locomotive was being pushed by a forklift.
Hope you make a Undecorated…..I would love some Fepasa models....
rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/diesel-locomotives/ho-scale-alco-pa-pb/ Scroll to the bottom.
If you could get them to spew tons of black smoke on throttle up that would be awesome!
Yes it would! It would make everyone asphyxiate in their layout rooms, but it would look neat! 😆
will you be releasing the SP versions with ice breakers and snow plows?
Watch the rest of the video... 😄
THEY SURE WILL!!
Oregon rocks #oregonblood
Well I know you are in good with Doyle now, so take another trip to scan the 4449's auxiliary tender please. Also if you make it powered huge bonus! :)
There are a LOT of Gs models out there, and I am sure because it's been used with the 700 and 3751 it's no just guys with Daylights that would want them.
It's not viable for us to make just the tender, unfortunately. We suggest you speak to one of the MANY manufacturers who have made 4449.... 😀
@@rapidotrains I dont know a water bottle sound a lot easier then a full locomotive. ;)
What about a Sp 3/4 dome!? Now that the Cp finished its restoration its a Canadian prototype now. :)
Now you're talking... 😁
THE MIGHTY PA. Now Walthers and MTH have another competitor for PAs.
Definitely....
@@rapidotrains I have a couple of metal PA body castings, not sure who made these.
With those fresh scans I bet they would look great in n scale....jusy saying
One thing at a time, eh?
What 3D scanner do you like using?
We use whatever our 3D scanner contractor brings! 😆
Did you guys also scan the 4449? If you did that would be awesome!
That's a crowded market...
rapidotrains I didn’t know it was. I only know of MTH and Bachmann’s renditions.
I read the title and thought Alco made a new loco with a classic shape for modern use on rail lines. But it wont happen since that shape isnt believed to be aero dynamic
Alco hasn't been around in a LONG time... 😄
@@rapidotrains awwww man :( i thought they were still around, well then EMD should develop some engines in the type of design as the f units, for aesthetics
Well then that means that Doyle's PA was originally a Santa Fe unit, right?
Yes, that's right.
how is it going with RDC 6133
Well. We're chasing leaks right now and replacing windows. The inside is looking pretty good.
Are you doing this unit in Union Pacific?
Not in the first run, but they will likely come in the future!
6:35 R.I.P. FM B units, it's a shame they couldn't find a home. I wonder of there are any left out there?
Unfortunately they were all scrapped.
Wait, so PA's have the same trucks as Fairbanks Morse units?
No. It was all Doyle could find. We have original PA truck blueprints and we'll be using them for the model.
@@rapidotrains why did you guys ask I have to complete blueprints to the PA-1 ,FA-1,FA-2, and centuries for424,425, and a lot more alco's from the Erie Lackawanna railroad themselves, the pa1 drawing show's nose contours in inches
Hi Ed! Please send us a message through our web site and we can talk! rapidotrains.com/contact-us
Hmmm...Rapido GS-4s???
Not in our plans at the moment, but never say never!
oooooooooh noice
Thanks!
Where's Jason at?
Jason was not given an exit visa by his wife.
@@rapidotrains Aww..schucks!
Maybe next time. 😅
'Hol up a sec... if 190 doesn't run, ThEn HoW iS iT mOvInG bY iTsElF? (4:50)
It was pushed by a forklift, conveniently out of shot. We did say it was special effects... 😁
Wrong engine? 4449 is never the wrong engine! :)
Good point!
That did sound like a 244 not a 251.....
The engine sounds were dubbed in for effect. At the time the engine wasn't yet operable.
@@rapidotrains Forgive my smart ass comment, I saw the disclaimer.....
No Union Pacific?
Extremely sad
This is just the first run...
I bet you won't make an unpowered version if you ever sell 190
True. The only difference in cost between a powered and unpowered model is the cost of the motor, which is a few dollars. Nobody would buy an unpowered model that retails for $10 less than the powered one.
Nice but 6520 still beats it!
Can't beat the stripes!
Nvr blow the horn while men are on the nose!
Indeed. They survived.
Looks impressive, but...... CAN'T HEAR YOU! If you have any money left over from the 3D scanner, please get better sound equipment. Or it could just be YT (again).
The audio was quieter than usual, but the bigger problem is your computer speakers. On every computer in our office - Mac and PC - it works fine. Just turn up the volume.
UA-cam captions "from Rapido Trains Inc." as "from pedo transy"
Ouch!