Triathlon Vs Road Bike | Heather Vs Manon
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- We love a battle with GCN, this time it's TT bike Vs Road bike, with Heather & Manon taking on each other on a closed circuit! We've even drafted in the tips of Manon's fellow GCN presenter Ollie Bridgewood! The rivalry of GTN & GCN is once again put to the test, who will win!?
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Ollie " I can see straightaway some upgrades that you can do - put latex inner tubes in"
That's seriously impressive eyesight 😳
probably wasn't looking at the bike
Well, not whatever Ollie says is law...... And many people found not having advantage using tubeless. And on what he says, the tt bike should have won....
@@zambokid89 The time difference was only 10 seconds and Manon's average power was 35W higher, so Ollie can still be right that TT bike and aero helmet saved 30W.
@@zambokid89 The difference between tubeless and clincher/latex is minimal but latex tubes don't offer the same puncture protection. With clincher/butyl, I think there is defenitly a difference in R.R. but it's a bit more puncture resistant. :)
Tubeless get you all the pros without the cons but are a bit messier to deal with.
@@nounours2627 Deceunick-Quickstep is riding tubeless tires with latex inners on all their wheels this year. Only Roubaix was planned for tubbies. Now that’ll be at the end of the season and with more data they have said they might even go for same setup for PRB.
Both Manon and Heather deserve lots of credit. Doing a TT is not easy and most riders never even do one. Come on give it a go everyone!!!
Thanks Bobby.
I’d love to ride a TT bike. But they’re just way more expensive than road bikes. A good road bike itself is already expensive. Also if you’re going to ride TT. It’s mandatory that you must look the part for aero gains. Which means you need a skin suit and a TT helmet. Which also don’t comes cheap. Don’t even get started with optimizing your TT bike with marginal gain upgrades. A new carbon wheel set could easily cost as much as a new bike.
@@iMadrid11 What you have said is incorrect Chris. You don't need a TT bike. You can do one on a normal road bike. You are testing yourself, not trying to win the race.
Wear a tight fitting top and that will gain you more aero advantage than a TT bike.
You can also buy some cheap aero bars (Triathlon bars) that will fit onto the cross bar of a road bike. Loads on ebay for less than £50.
If you get the bug you can upgrade in the years to come.
I would say 80% of people do their first TT's either on road bikes or a road bike with bolt on aero bars.
Go for it.
@@iMadrid11 go with pre owned TT bikes
@@bobbysilver272 true. You only "need" to get an expensive pro bike if you actually need one, like if you are going to try to win a competition. People can go TT with an $800 bike if they want to, if they are not in a competition then they are just comparing their numbers against their own and see if there would be improvements.
They managed to extract Manon from the recumbent, that's impressive!
It's literally as easy as getting out of a bathtub. Basically it is a bath tub. But a very fast one ;-)
@@4nz-nl I am not prepared for a fast bathtub.
@@4nz-nl I think what he meant is that "Manon doesn't want to get out of the bathtub".
@@4nz-nl so basically bathtub on wheels?
@@cuckooreloaded Yup. Even worse: A leaking bathtub :)
Manon is a wolf in sheep's clothing ;-). She looks friendly and peaceful, but on the bike she turns into a predator that rips anybody into pieces...
And that's why we love her !!!
She is world class. Lots of trophy(s).
she s from track cycling
cringe
Track cycling makes people stronger imho
Bloody love the GCN and GTN presenters. Like my own little virtual friends throughout lockdown. Ooooo cycling friendssss
Great to hear we're helping you through lock down :)
@@heatherfell_oly Most definitely Heather, really enjoying the content (and how down to earth the presenters are). Have a great week! :)
Excellent video. After the 20 mile TT challenge from Heather, “Next week on GCN, Ollie fits Manon on her new TT bike.” 😂
Ollie is that lad in your local bike shop, that you just hope services your bike.
Please keep using the metric system. 😶
American here, I completely agree. Keep using the metric system. It just makes more sense. The only thing I prefer from standard of metric is Fahrenheit when discussing weather. It was quite literally designed to measure what we perceive as cold to be 0 and hot to be 100. That's the only thing I actually prefer.
I love the comaraderie between these 2 channels. Subscribed to both. Whenever I see it’s a collaboration the vid gets a like before I’ve watched it. Here’s to good weather soon!
And the mountain bike channel: the colabs with them are epic as well!
@@wilfdarr thanks! Didn’t know about that one yet!
Well done Manon, I thought Heather would have that easily (especially after Ollies traitorous behaviour!)
Can we have some X vs Y sprints, Manon always seems to be out of her specialism. Long runs in the cold and wet. How about GCN vs GTN elimination race?
Thumbs up only for the reason having Manon and Heather in one video!
I was expecting a cut away at the end to Oli shaking his head and muttering “latex inner tubes” over and over
So it is 1 Manon vs. 1 TT bike while it is 4+ ex professionals vs. 1 Simon on TT. Impressive Manon!
Well 3ex pros + 1 actual pro + ollie's moral support I think is more accurate
also impressive Cy
This is amazing... Seeing Ollie out of character and being sensible!
Manon could've saved 20 watts if she didn't burn so many calories putting her sun glasses on and off 600 times before starting the race.
I love the GTN and GCN collaboration. I'm not a triathlete, so I only got introduced to Heather of GTN when Manon challenged her to Cyclist vs Runner calorie challenge a few months ago. So, I've been binge-watching Heather GTN videos. About 2 years ago there was a GTN 15 Minute HIIT workout with Heather and Hank. So, you want to watch Hank suffer, watch this video. At one point Heather says: "..3-2-1. Go to the end. Unlike James. We don't want any slackers...". Poor Hank, she literally killed him. By the way, I'm subscribed to GCN+ just to see Hank suffer more. I am not disappointed!!!
I reckon Hank would get me back if given the chance! We love working with GCN presenters, great you've found GTN too.
Ollie rightly sitting back saying ‘I told you so’...
funnily enough this 10W with latex inner tubes could make her won!
Absolutely. Why bother getting advice then completely ignore it. Do it for the Triathletes!
Great video. It certainly shows the benefit of a TT bike. It also shows what a great rider Manon is.
💪
Heather getting advice from the guy who got dropped in the the GCN time trial. HAHAHA
Too soon but hilarious
Sometimes we forget that Manon is such a beast while she's presenting all perky and funny. Goodjob ladies
Perky eh.
Manon on road bike vs Si on tt ? 😜
Meh. This one is more informative than the one on GCN. They made the choice of helping all the triathletes by giving out tips on how you overcome a roady🙃 and still being entertaining
@@henrigaufillier4350 for sure, not arguing that!
lmao both hank & connor which are stronger on the road (than manon ofc) lost to si, how do you think manon would do?
The GCN one was pure entertainment it didn't really aim to inform but I think they were genuinely surprised that Si kept winning so I guess we still learned something.
@@itarry4 I agree. Is it really data intensive? Naw, but these guys clearly have a bit of pride on the line, and the fact that 4 of them in a pace line (not the best one however... :P ) going all out wasn't enough to beat one guy on a TT bike is a pretty emphatic way to drive the point home about how much more aero it is.
Holy smokes ladies! Well done 👍🏻 260 Watts, wow 🤩
Manon is seriously impressive on the bike.
So you are you, Heather - amazing!! 💪🏼
Manon beat a TT bike... on her own... wtf she’s an actual beast
She beat a lesser rider... No need to spunk yr pants.
Heather on screen: calm/cooled... Heather on bike: THERE IS NO MICROPHONE AND IM GOING TO SCREAM THE WHOLE TIME
Manon's an absolute machine! Running away from a TT bike while on a road bike seems near impossible, but she just comes along and does it, mad lass!
how about Mark Vs Si - 25km TT (drafting allowed) ?
Now I say yes!
make it better - 100km tt - both in recumbents
@@bikeanddogtripsvirtualcycling Si will beat Mark then, as long as they are the same bikes. 100 km is not enough to wear Si out enough to lose. In a Milan, you'd need 500 for that. It simply does not get uncomfortable, the only thing that'll hurt are your legs.
Liked it a lot. You definitely need more women at GCN, GTN, G-alltheother channel’s. Don’t get me wrong the whole team is great 😉.
Okay, first of all, Props to Heather, that's some solid power in the freezing cold on a TT bike.
I thought Heather had it when she brought out the TT bike and helmet, and then Manon goes and brings out the Wattage Bazooka. Holy smokes can she throw down the power. I knew she was fast, but still. Wowzer.
4 laps of that circuit =12km , AVG speed of 19m = ~38km/h.
Really??? only 12 km? It's very reassuring to know that I'm not that bad of a female cycling enthusiast myself! :) I'm mid 40's using a fairly cheap 11kg bike in a very warm and humid tropical country...and I've done a 12km ride at an ave speed of 39km/hr a few months ago USING A GRAVEL BIKE (on the road)...maybe I should get me a real road bike then!
Can't wait for the re-test during the summer.
Nor can we!
8:58
Heather: *serious af*
Manon: *smiling*
At 8:58 Manon looks less like smiling and more.... like the Joker.
#CyclingSociopath
The rematch should be on Manon speciality track sprinting. If the triatholete had things her way on the first event then it's only fair to reverse things in the rematch.
Great video...I half expected Manon to run up in the recumbent :)
She didn’t need any more help!
“I’m going to go an work on my aero position”... ok, I get it but I’d work on bumping up the power numbers too. Manon did a great job there!
Muaythai
Mantap lu anjing
I love Manson vs Heather videos! Girl power 💕
it's reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who sees 20 miles as a fairly long ride
LOL. I've done 133.6 miles in 12.4 hours on a 73 lb tour bike with a SA XL-RD5w.
Wow, strong work. And so inspirational.
Why is Heather bouncing on the saddle at 3:50? Seems like a fit issue?
good race. this really does put in to perspective Joshua Cheptegei's 5000m world record at just over 12.35 (running)
Way to go Manon you did GCN proud!
Excellent video. I like the properly-competitive-with-some-novelty setup. Cheers.
Definitely need a rematch 👍 great work
Swimming next time
That didn't feel like a 15 min video.. More like a 5 min video..very engaging i must say 😃👍🏼
love these crossovers
Great video Ladies...... nice to see the two of ye go head to head for a change......😀 Ollie in the headlines again.....😂😂😂
So Manon can beat the TT bike, but somehow Simon Richardson is invincible on one?
The next GCN challenge is obvious.
This is Wow..
Woman Power Meet Beauty Hot Woman..
9:00 Heemmm Me Chose Manon Offcourse.. :)
Great race... well done to both ladies.
Now for a 5k run challenge...
How many times a cyclist puts on his glasses before the race xD Besides it,s a very nice video ;)
I was kind over expecting to see a modern retake of Chris Boardman's 1992 olympic qualifier 🤣😂🤣
Everyone has their own quirks! Haha. Heather's appear to be this little twitch (12:22), pushing the brake levers away with her fingers. Adorable!
No one had ever pointed that out before, totally oblivious.
I love this show!! Great stuff. But does Heather has the seatpost a bit to high? Her hips a rotating a bit too much or?
Great vid, go Manon!
Half way through this video and I'm already yelling, "C'Mon Manon!!!"
Haha!
these girls are def rockstars - big thumbs up for the attitude and performance... not to say about the video contend. (only 10 seconds... hummm... in that way, if Ollie is right about his "latex inner tubes being an extra 10w" we could see Heather Flipping it in a next race, (considering all other circumstances the same). actually I wold love to see that result! - maybe another video??? I truly think thousands of viewers would love to see that too. - Heather & Manon, truly #powergirls
Way to represent GCN Manon! Well done!
Love these challenges and insights. Even though 10 seconds off, it realky shows how much the aero additions help when you've not got the same power output.
Is that John "Chocolate Voice" Beavan I hear narrating?
Well spotted.
Was nice to see a race between competitive people without excuses and bs!
Thank you, @Heather Fell & GTN for another wonderful video! Too bad that Manon is such a beast of a cyclist; I could nearly have bet for this result. But please make that re-match 40k instead!
Manon is a real beast. Great video. #respect
You know what's coming next, right?
Manon VS EMBN.
GCN's lucky to have Manon. A monster with a cute smile.
Great video. And I’d love to se you switching bikes. I believe Manon will do great on the TT bike. 👍🏻
That Aero advantage is impressive! 😳
Ollie "dropping" some aero wisdom ;)
LMAO 😂
Is it ever sunny there, every video they do it looks rainy and gloomy, lol
for the rematch, both on TT bikes as aero as one can get.😉
Since air resistance increases with the square of the speed, I guess another option would be a fast linear long course with a slight downhill slope. A longer course and tri-suit may do the trick though.
The showdown we never thought we needed!
I am not sure Ollie's advice really helped that much, to him 20W extra against the headwind might be reasonably, but to some triathletes I know, it would be an all-out sprint :D
I beginning to see where this is going though. Manon being caught exercising without a bicycle, fraternising with Heather, and not long ago slipping out that the even preferred swimming when at hotels which probably have an almost usable exercise bike from the 70's hidden in the basement. Suspicious, very suspicious.
But I do feel for Heather on that hill. It not necessarily the 0.3% themselves, but how the suddenly jump on you within only a few hundred meters, and then have the audacity to do it again on the next lap.
I like the additional drone footage, that was a nice touch. Well done Manon!
Whats the black helmet heather was using?
Ollie the traitor! 🤪😅
i knew manon was gonna win! well done both of you!
Usain Bolt can sprint (on foot) faster than the fastest electric bikes (which top out at 28 MPH in the US).
How fast would Usain Bolt go on a recumbent bike with a 7:1 gear ratio?
Trackie cadence vs roadie cadence.
260 W for 20 minutes is impressive!
I'm currently watching Ollie give aero kit tips to Heather, and now I hope Manon shows up in proper velodrome kit for this and goes all out.
What an absolute joy to see two fantastic athletes, in their respective fields, perform for us and to keep it all so friendly and amiable, a genuine video of how sport should be, something we should all respect. Did I see horns appear on Manon’s forehead once she went into race mode, I think I did!
Probably the first GCN win?
@Ollie Really?!? Tubes + inner latex tubes make you save 10 watts?
Love it, that was awesome to watch!
Oh how I long to race against other people after watching this. It would be nice to see you two switch bikes and do again just to set the number. Fantastic work. I'm going riding now.
You can tell Heather and Manon don’t really hang out, lol
ok, start of the race. I will end my comment once finished. I am always going to be biased because Manon is the perfect Welsh woman. My missus hates her, ha ha! luckily, I love my missus. The best of Swanage:) Anyway, tech beat heart? sure, tech is great. But heart? it comes through. So my view is this. Your taking on Manon, a perfect Welsh lass. She will not lose because she's good. But, also Welsh... back soon...
I hope my power generator is as efficient and strong as these two amazing ladies.
Ollie dropping some serious knowledge there!
And we all noticed the results 🤣
One thing that stood out to me was Heather's cadence looked quite low. TT's on flats are about endurance so recruiting type II fibers would help stave off fatigue. Then again, some people get by with low cadence but maybe try some speed skills workouts to see if it helps add some watts.
Is that lasty?
It's all pointless when you can get an electrical motor, power it by the sun, and ride faster and carry more groceries than a frail distant cyclist...
Why not do a grocery run... something practical to existing... Not these pointless race bikes.
oh man... Ollie just keeps dopping lower! helping a rival...
this has got me supper excited for my first race of the year at this same track!!! great vid as ever 🤟
Great to hear, hope it's not far away.
I WISH they provided their average speed, which is more relatable than power output. Most of us don't have power meters.
Well done Manon!
I would love to see a rematch
Their usual road bike, like our most expensive model for $100,500
is it really true that tubeless bicycles are faster? The answer does not seem so straightforward looking quickly on the Internet.
They asked Olie about how to win a race? Was Si not available?
Si would never betray a fellow GCN presenter! :P
Didn't listen to any of Ollie's advice... Decides to wear her duvet instead!
I wonder why she lost?
Luv 2C Manon on the TT Bike an the other Girl on Manon's Bike. Manon would Blitz Her ,,