GTN Vs GCN: The Rematch | Can Heather Beat Manon In A Bike Race?

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  • Опубліковано 24 вер 2022
  • Last year, Heather took on Manon from GCN in a cycling race, which she lost - something which she has not forgotten! Earlier this year, they battled again in a duathlon, but now we want to take things back to the start for the big rematch: GTN vs GCN on the bike! Will Heather be able to get the better of Manon this time?
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  • @gtn
    @gtn  Рік тому +19

    What other cross-channel battles would you like to see?

    • @David-qx8jm
      @David-qx8jm Рік тому +3

      All of them

    • @kulvianshun
      @kulvianshun Рік тому

      How about a mixed surface (road, gravel & easy single track) bike race between Anna, Manon & Heather on a course designed by James, Neill and Simon. Pretty sure that would be fairly entertaining.

    • @donaldrieger381
      @donaldrieger381 Рік тому

      To the Track!! Also a 3 person triathlon relay.

    • @MrAndrewClaycomb
      @MrAndrewClaycomb Рік тому +1

      I’d like to see the rivalry taken to a velodrome.

    • @andytaylor_music
      @andytaylor_music Рік тому +1

      We need Mark vs Si and James vs Hank....... Either individually or as a relay

  • @lawrenceginete1030
    @lawrenceginete1030 Рік тому +41

    GCN always does their best to say "expensive bikes doesn't make you faster." while GTN always wants to say "if you're rich you're fast." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ngdawgs1
    @ngdawgs1 Рік тому +93

    Wonder Woman did it!! Love the.. ‘I’m not that fit’ after doing 90% of an Ironman with no fuel. Go Heather!! Manon.. rocked it too with only a 200k under her belt 😜 💪🏽.

    • @triscuitbiscuit
      @triscuitbiscuit Рік тому +4

      They grossly underestimate themselves. And are a little too modest.

    • @juliustan1494
      @juliustan1494 Рік тому +5

      Correction, 96% 😁 but yes Heather should be banned from saying “I’m not that fit” 😂

    • @shamuslamont100
      @shamuslamont100 Рік тому +1

      tri bike positioning gives about a 4-5km /h aerodynamic advantage. They should be using the same gear.

  • @runruntours
    @runruntours Рік тому +34

    I love the challenges with Manon and the other presenters from GCN! Good job for both of you, girls!

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 Рік тому +50

    It would be interesting to see both ladies on the same bike set-up as this video, but with Manon picking a road-favourable course with climbing, descending and tight corners.

    • @kidkarbon4775
      @kidkarbon4775 Рік тому +2

      Yes Yes. Outstanding idea, make that happen.

    • @lawrenceginete1030
      @lawrenceginete1030 Рік тому +4

      Manon would trash Heather. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @artemisxo6734
      @artemisxo6734 Рік тому +2

      i just wanna see more of these races

    • @matthewbaynham6286
      @matthewbaynham6286 Рік тому +2

      @@lawrenceginete1030 Not really, their power outputs in this video were very similar and a road bike enables you to have a fraction more power output because of the position.
      A really big factor is who is fit.

    • @nk-dw2hm
      @nk-dw2hm Рік тому +1

      @@matthewbaynham6286 a pro cyclist is going to be much more aero on a road bike which is the biggest difference in performance. Add in the fact that Manon is/was a sprinter and you realize that she just needs to be able to draft to the end and will always win a sprint finish
      Heather will win longer efforts, especially if they're unable to draft each other. Manon will beast any sprint finish or shorter effort

  • @frankchan5547
    @frankchan5547 Рік тому +5

    My friend who rode at national level told me aero tuck position alone gives 3 min advantage over 40 ITT, add in disk wheel, aero helmet and tri suit and overshoes, plus aero tri TT bike, shows less power plus aero translates to faster time of more than 1 min over 10kms.
    Great fun video!

  • @rcuadro
    @rcuadro Рік тому +16

    I feel as though I would need a 10 minute head start to compete with either one of those bad ass ladies

    • @nk-dw2hm
      @nk-dw2hm Рік тому

      I'd take a 10 minute head start on a 20 minute course with them

  • @67er_matze97
    @67er_matze97 Рік тому +3

    wow - well done both!! I'm hugely impressed how much the aero devices seem to have worked out especially considering that Manon pushed a few more watts!!

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 Рік тому +19

    Love a good grudge match. Well done Heather and Manon.

  • @brandonlarkin3358
    @brandonlarkin3358 Рік тому

    Fun video. Really enjoyed your competitive spirits. Great job!

  • @two-eyedRoy
    @two-eyedRoy Рік тому +1

    AYYY Congrats Heather! Cool seeing how much difference of aero when power is pretty similar. I've always been impressed at the avg. speeds Tri reaches compared to TT specific racing considering with Tri there's a race beforehand and after still.
    I'd be intrigued for a collab vid of GTN-GCN crew going through the differences in disciplines lets say 2hrs Tri-Road-TT.
    So roughly 30min Swim, 2hr Ride, 90min Run Triathlon Vs 2hr Time Trial Vs 2hr Road stage with 1,000m of up at the end, and what that means in changes for trainings, fuelling, ideal target zones... and so on.

  • @DiscoStu1970
    @DiscoStu1970 Рік тому +8

    Gotta get Heather an aero suit. Next video: Aero suits, how much difference do they make over 50k ride (at constant pace)?

  • @jasonree
    @jasonree Рік тому +20

    Great to watch, looking forward to Ollies take on how to make Manon faster!

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 10 місяців тому

      Ollies need to make himeself faster, did you not watch the 4 vs 1/5 vs 1 time trial bike vs road bike series? :)

  • @KenSmith-bv4si
    @KenSmith-bv4si Рік тому +7

    See what happens Triathlete wears socks.

  • @raywall1
    @raywall1 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic race between 2 very competitive athletes and best friends. Heather is looking lean. Looking forward to seeing more great races and challenges 😃

  • @SBoots29
    @SBoots29 Рік тому +1

    Got to do what you got to do. bravo to both Manon and Heather. Money on aero is wasted unless you have the fitness to support. I would love the whole set up of Heathers bike, including the bike for my next race but I got to stay with what I can afford and have fun at all times. Loved the video.

  • @jaredjames7990
    @jaredjames7990 Рік тому +1

    Good ride Manon!! Always enjoy your efforts and great enthusiasm in all your videos, keep making cyclists proud around the world.

  • @boriss.861
    @boriss.861 Рік тому +1

    Great race Heather & Manon.
    What will Dr Bridgewood say? But more importantly Sachin's tweaks would be good to hear too!!

  • @debasishsen9397
    @debasishsen9397 Рік тому +1

    awesome race. enjoyed. would like to see u 2 in same type of bike. 👍🙏

  • @kurre_kallkvist
    @kurre_kallkvist Рік тому +2

    Impressive efforts, and equally impressive to see what a difference the aerodynamics make!
    As to fitness, it is clearly a relative thing... I'm as fit as I've ever been, and Manon still beat my pb over 10k by a good minute 😃 I'll clearly have to start commuting to my gymnastics sessions on a TT bike wearing a skin suite to compensate...

  • @Andrew_smart100
    @Andrew_smart100 Рік тому +4

    After accidentally starting this weeks Zwift TTT on a road bike, I can attest that this result was a rather inevitable. #knifegunfight - Andy

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 Рік тому +3

    It must be noted, Heather, that you are MUCH fitter than the last time. Keep up the awesome content.

  • @colinb8327
    @colinb8327 Рік тому +1

    I now have something in common with Manon and know how she feels, having seen Heather blast past me at Blenheim when she did the Weekend Warrior.
    Well done Heather!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @the_trooper_72
    @the_trooper_72 Рік тому +1

    Great sportswomanship between the two!!! Amazing,. 👍🏻😎💯💥👌🏻❤️

  • @bikeanddogtrips
    @bikeanddogtrips Рік тому +4

    12:40 looks like you have a new channel subscriber just behind manon 🤣🤣

  • @mikew6840
    @mikew6840 Рік тому +1

    As much as I love watching Mark’s challenges, it is high time James flexed his cycling muscles against Cycling’s Si in some wacky challenge.

  • @TheSeanJohnston
    @TheSeanJohnston Рік тому +4

    Swop bikes and do the time trial again :)

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 7 місяців тому

    @13:01 "thank you for coming out and letting me thoroughly kick your arse" 😅

  • @ocbyn
    @ocbyn Рік тому

    These 2 work together really well.

  • @davicito2001gu
    @davicito2001gu Рік тому

    That was a really great matchup! No the fact that GTN won (which I enjoyed, I'm not gonna lie 😁) but the effort of both of you put into it. Congrats to both! 💪😎

  • @lionden4
    @lionden4 Рік тому

    At 9:17 Heather just behind her. When I did a triathlon relay last week in Niagara Falls, I used my road bike and I will be remember the disk wheel’s sound! Great and what an interesting match up! Heather and Manon are great cyclists! Thank you GCN..

  • @phop3449
    @phop3449 Рік тому

    I missed the junkyard dog! Great Vid ;)

  • @nicolasdomise
    @nicolasdomise Рік тому

    'Maybe another time' (about switching bikes), YES PLEASE!!!

  • @mental9mikey
    @mental9mikey Рік тому

    Great video. Can we recreate the exact same thing again but give Manon some clip-on TT bars? 🤞

  • @tongpocalypse151
    @tongpocalypse151 Рік тому +1

    Like a modern day re-enactment of when Lemond beat Fignon.

  • @AbiShafi
    @AbiShafi Рік тому +1

    I watched a film on Netflix the other day called ‘Onboard The Transcontinental Race’ and was gob smacked by the dedication of the riders, no medals or honours just the thrill of doing the race. I’d love to see someone from GCN preferably Manon do it! 😎🚴‍♂️😎🚴‍♂️

    • @BurtonHohman
      @BurtonHohman Рік тому

      Doesn’t seem to be on Netflix, at least not in the US :/

  • @firstnamelastname2669
    @firstnamelastname2669 Рік тому +2

    I think Manon's problem was pacing. 300W on the early section with an overall average of 217W? No one Heather came past super easy.

  • @markbphilip
    @markbphilip Рік тому +9

    Manon in a triathlon next?

  • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
    @AlbertBuckinghamEllison Рік тому +3

    I'm not sure Heather could've stacked the deck better in her favour. It would be good to see TT road rig vs Tri-bike rig, roadie vs triathlete.

  • @Benno828282
    @Benno828282 Рік тому +2

    It's a pretty silly test, yes we know aero bikes are far quicker on a flat course as drag is the biggest form of resistance. Give Manon the same kit/bike and see what happens, in theory she has less experience on a tt bike.

  • @redbreva
    @redbreva Рік тому +1

    This should be a 6 monthly event !!

  • @toddtaylor8400
    @toddtaylor8400 Рік тому +1

    i like the friendly races, but a little disappointed that this really was not a heads up race.

  • @TheRst2001
    @TheRst2001 Рік тому

    Manon rocks always enjoy her vids, and watched Heather for first time attempt her Triathlon on zero food and really impressed , these ladies hard-core 💪

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 Рік тому +3

    Put Mannon in a skin suit, areo helmet and a time trial bike and find out what happens.

  • @gregvassilakos
    @gregvassilakos Рік тому +1

    This makes me wonder why I do my weekend rides on my road bike instead of my triathlon bike.

    • @gerhardw.933
      @gerhardw.933 Рік тому

      I put clip-on TT bars on my road bike and was surprised about the benefits. I don't use them as a radical change from my general riding position but use them more as an addition, e.g. when pushing myself, saving energy in a more aerodynamic position, be able to ride harder ⚙️ gears etc.

  • @markwithers7730
    @markwithers7730 Рік тому

    Love these cross channel events, however equipment makes a big difference, next time kit manon out in full TT kit

  • @tbear4291
    @tbear4291 Рік тому

    I love both and customer of them both in on-line shopping.

  • @Cyclingismywholelife
    @Cyclingismywholelife Рік тому

    I love it when cyclists challenge each other to cycle more, what a great world to live in where we can share our passion to ride.

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark8991 Рік тому

    Awesome win Heather love the video

  • @ngdawgs1
    @ngdawgs1 Рік тому

    I have that shirt now 🥳🥳🥳! I will tap into my inner Heather to be fast 😃.

  • @sophocles8761
    @sophocles8761 Рік тому +1

    would have like to have the W/KG to get a real sense of how much the aero adaptations helped

    • @shamuslamont100
      @shamuslamont100 Рік тому

      if it's a flatish course, W/KG has nearly no relevance. Only outright wattage output matters. The aero positioning would have accounted for almost the entire variance ~ about 4-5km/ h in aero bar position vs road bike

  • @RenaissanceWW
    @RenaissanceWW Рік тому

    ah the time tested tradition of starting every group ride with excuses and explanations of why each of us are "not very fit at the moment"

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 7 місяців тому

    @1:13 new tactic from Heather... don't tell Manon the route 😅

  • @356z
    @356z Рік тому +1

    I like to think that the UK has great roads like this everywhere with lamas in everyone's backyard

    • @gtn
      @gtn  Рік тому

      Right!

  • @timvanmonero2720
    @timvanmonero2720 Рік тому +2

    if Manon goes bend ellbows, she can save 5 watts i believe

  • @H.Tim.com22455
    @H.Tim.com22455 Рік тому +1

    Watts are nice, but watts per kilogram would be more accurate. Maybe show that next time.

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 Рік тому +3

    Now Mark vs Ollie. Whip their road-rider butts, whip 'em!

  • @peanutbutter604
    @peanutbutter604 Рік тому

    My two favorite Lady's on UA-cam 😃

  • @dzat
    @dzat Рік тому

    great stuffs girls

  • @wolfikohl6075
    @wolfikohl6075 Рік тому

    I love this one Heather!!!!

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 Рік тому

    #Challenge. Climbing on a single speed. Not necessarily fixed gear but LIFE IN ONE GEAR!

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 Рік тому +2

    I don't care what you all do! It's freaking awesome! Throw Manon in the water!

  • @renaissancestrings9264
    @renaissancestrings9264 Рік тому

    A tale of two countries.
    American 1: " I'm great"
    American 2: "I'm even better"
    American 1: "I'm the best"
    American 2: "I'm the bestetest"
    British person 1: "I suck, I'm sorry"
    British person 1: "No, no, I'm sorry, I suck worse"
    British person 1: "Tea?"
    British person 2: "Ta"
    The end.

  • @evanatkins1888
    @evanatkins1888 Рік тому

    I'd like to see a three way tussle between Moe Howard, Larry Fine and Curly Howard. That'd bring the crowds back

    • @gtn
      @gtn  Рік тому

      Very Interesting 🤔

  • @ernestong5112
    @ernestong5112 Рік тому

    Surprised to see Manon using Ultegra mechanical 😬 Go mechanical 👍🏼

  • @timwe8044
    @timwe8044 10 місяців тому

    honest question, why should I buy a road bike, when I can ride a tt bike and be faster and more comfortable ?

  • @Zzyyxx22
    @Zzyyxx22 Рік тому

    Gravel challenge next?

  • @clintnieves
    @clintnieves Рік тому

    Here comes the time trial vs tri bike

  • @chinter
    @chinter Рік тому +1

    Manon needs to pick a hill climb to try to minimize the aero gains.

  • @fultonlopez7846
    @fultonlopez7846 Рік тому

    fun but not fair

  • @TheCup0joe
    @TheCup0joe Рік тому

    Do the swim next!

  • @David-qx8jm
    @David-qx8jm Рік тому

    Racing is racing. Question is distance. And bike capabilities.

  • @Ivan_Nano
    @Ivan_Nano Рік тому

    What is the weight difference? That would tell us more about watts per kilo rather than just watts.

  • @leeadams2413
    @leeadams2413 Рік тому +2

    Get Heather on the Track. Pusuit challenge

  • @madshansson20
    @madshansson20 Рік тому +1

    Love these Challenges. Great content👍
    But why do you (all included) always downplay your fitness?? You always talk about how you haven’t trained, your not fit etc. etc.
    You all have fitness most of us normal humans can only Dream of.

  • @buildingreno
    @buildingreno Рік тому

    Heather you're looking super fit!

  • @markstone722
    @markstone722 Рік тому +2

    Bit unfair on the choices of equipment. Not apples for apples

  • @danielslocum7316
    @danielslocum7316 10 місяців тому

    Superbike without Superbike Price tag!!

  • @necabunilas
    @necabunilas Рік тому

    are they on 650b wheels?

  • @realrealtalk9503
    @realrealtalk9503 Рік тому

    great video and all but... 19 minutes for 10k seems a bit slow for such fit women. Also, 10k in 19 minutes doesn't quite equate to 36kmph, or does it?

  • @atlosass
    @atlosass Рік тому

    Way to go Heather!!

  • @jedisdad2265
    @jedisdad2265 Рік тому +2

    A road bike vs a triathlon (TT) bike is a bit of a cheat for GTN.

  • @maksoff
    @maksoff Рік тому +1

    Now 217W vs 209W, last time: 260W vs 225W ( ua-cam.com/video/er2fcvGijFo/v-deo.html )

  • @HShango
    @HShango Рік тому

    The canyon bike is angelic

  • @Bb5y
    @Bb5y Рік тому +2

    Heather is awesome. Manon is cool. Bish bash bosh.

  • @fender2670
    @fender2670 Рік тому

    Heather rode well, but there was a massive equipment difference

  • @joehayes3081
    @joehayes3081 Рік тому

    Heather needs to get a bike fit! Could get wayy more aero 🤙

  • @frankling9840
    @frankling9840 Рік тому +3

    Seemed a bit of a mismatch really, clearly aero was going to take it...

    • @lionden4
      @lionden4 Рік тому +1

      But didn’t happen in first one😌. This time yes because of heather used all the advantages she can..

    • @igoryan1111
      @igoryan1111 Рік тому

      @@lionden4 she also put a lot of power. 209 watts in a TT position requires more effort than 217 on a road bike.

    • @lionden4
      @lionden4 Рік тому

      @@igoryan1111 strong cyclists!.

  • @TheRst2001
    @TheRst2001 Рік тому

    How about a neutral event like Tough Mudders 😃

  • @gregmarcus3064
    @gregmarcus3064 Рік тому

    Manon just have not recovered from the long ass gravel race.

  • @mracer8
    @mracer8 10 місяців тому

    For 10K, you can survive even without a water bottle!

  • @vinniep01
    @vinniep01 Рік тому

    I'm three minutes in and both parties are saying that they've done no training, their not as fit as they used to be... I mean it's what 'everybody' says on race day. If you win great, you're way better than your peers. If you lose, well you've been doing nowt.

  • @and2244rew
    @and2244rew Рік тому

    How many to beat the tri bike?

  • @dazzakelly2024
    @dazzakelly2024 Рік тому

    I think Manon got stitched up there!

  • @rautapieru
    @rautapieru Рік тому

    Its all about the gear.. Again! Yeah right! Often watching these clips is more like watching commercials. Sad! How were they able to speak during the race?

  • @douglasbooth6836
    @douglasbooth6836 Рік тому +1

    Make it long 100miles and no food since the night before, manon would get thrashed.

  • @luntiangrace
    @luntiangrace Рік тому

    I just realized... I hold the lower bars like manon.

  • @fun2bealv772
    @fun2bealv772 Рік тому

    Did anyone else get distracted by the sheep and alpaca behind the girls during their recap

  • @nstrug
    @nstrug Рік тому

    Track sprint next…

  • @stephendenagy3396
    @stephendenagy3396 Рік тому

    So Manon used more power and lost. Feels like cheating. Shows the benefits of the tech, validates the research.