How Drow Ranger's Marksmanship Actually Works

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • Hello. In this video I go over Drow Ranger's ultimate, Marksmanship. I go over things like how the damage is calculated versus different armor types, and how her Aghanim's Scepter upgrade works.
    Here's a playlist of these videos where I take a deeper look into the mechanics of something that I think is widely misunderstood, confusing, or just interesting - • How Crystal Maiden's F...
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  • @belschnikkel
    @belschnikkel Рік тому +20

    Drow Aghs USED TO waste mana on each hit of splinter attack, but it was considered a bug and patched out ~4/5 patches ago. That's why now you can attack a building with attack modifiers toggled on to get Hypothermia stacks on enemies/creeps without single mana used.

  • @wisestump211
    @wisestump211 Рік тому +24

    Go for Time Dilation.
    About, how it count hidden abilities of enemy's spellbar. Or how it fully ignores spells that use charges.
    Like Time Dilation affect all Invoker's spell which been used but not currently in his spellbar.
    Also Time Dilation count Kotl's Illuminate 2 times, cuz cast one type of this spell send the second type too since they have shared cooldown (Simple Illuminate and Illuminate with ultimate).

  • @spiralingspiral72
    @spiralingspiral72 Рік тому +35

    Echo Slam simplified:
    - Unlike ES' other abilities, Echo Slam has no cast time, meaning that you can't press S to cancel casting it like Fissure or Enchant Totem, also Echo Slam doesn't stun units, Aftershock does that.
    - There are two components to Echo Slam, the Initial and Echo damage.
    - Initial damage is exactly what it says, its the damage initially dealt by Echo Slam to every unit in the 600 radius, currently at 100/140/180 damage.
    - Now the way Echo Slam works is to imagine that in every unit in the 600 radius, an invisible Queen Of Pain spawns on top of them and casts her Scream of Pain ability, but it deals 70/90/110 damage per projectile to all other units in a 600 radius, except the unit itself (only the initial damage is dealt, it cannot echo on itself)
    - This means that if Unit A is standing at the edge of Echo Slam's 600 radius and Unit B is standing 600 units away from unit A, Unit A will echo and take only the initial damage and send a projectile to unit B, which deals only the echo damage, since Unit B is 1200 range away from the 600 range of the Initial damage.
    - The above example means that Echo Slam can launch projectiles to units up to 1200 units away.
    - Echo Slam projectiles cannot be disjointed, but it will not damage Spell Immune or Invulnerable units.
    - However, the Initial Damage fully pierces Spell Immunity, and it will still launch Echo projectiles to all units within 600 range, regardless if it's spell immune or not.
    - Echo Slam damages units that are Invisible or under Fog of War.

    • @spiralingspiral72
      @spiralingspiral72 Рік тому +2

      I forgot to mention Echo slam deals damage to couriers too

    • @user-ep6ed8hr4v
      @user-ep6ed8hr4v Рік тому

      Does echoing a spell immune target still increases your damage of echo?

    • @spiralingspiral72
      @spiralingspiral72 Рік тому +2

      @@user-ep6ed8hr4v Yes, spell immune enemy units will still launch echo projectiles to nearby enemy units

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Рік тому +2

      This is basically how the spell is coded in DotA 1. In spawns an invisible dummy unit on top of each target that casts Fan of Knives.

  • @Shouyin
    @Shouyin Рік тому +51

    Your video quality really improved a lot! And very educational too, I actually learned a lot especially with the damage formula.
    Here's an additional info for 5:15:
    Damage reduction and projectile redirection can affect Drow's damage efficiency. Since splinter arrows deal much lesser damage, it can be reduced to almost none when you're targetting a hero with damage reduction mechanic.
    Hero examples with such mechanics are:
    - Lich's Frost Armor (Buff spell)
    - Mars' Bulwark (Projectile redirection mechanic)
    - Bristleback's... Bristleback (Passive)
    Try to minimize hitting them directly and instead shift your target to someone else. If it's unavoidable then hitting them till they die is still a valid option.
    Drow's Marksmanship works super well when you're actively changing targets. Compared to 'just hit' ranged heroes like Sniper and Lina, Drow's Kit specializes in dealing maximum damage against enemies by ignoring base armor, so hit priority plays a much higher role.
    You can try making a video for Mars' Bulwark. It has an interesting mechanic and you can present unique reactions against Death Ward projectiles as well as... Splinter projectile redirection(?) and various projectile based mechanics
    Keep it up! Looking forward to new uploads!

  • @Loqque
    @Loqque Рік тому +13

    this is becoming one of my low-key favorite series of videos :) every day you learn something new about this cursed game :)

  • @kjyu
    @kjyu Рік тому +3

    i love how quickly you come up with the videos, they are so informative!

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    @ODAALx Рік тому +1

    crazy how i cant watch full videos most of the time but these ones i watch all the way through.
    great content.

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    @alaabasha5791 Рік тому

    i've played
    dota for 7 years and you said informations i never knew ,which will help now on. great job ,keep on

  • @okay8124
    @okay8124 Рік тому +1

    You could make something about sand king's passive because a lot people are clueless, pretty underated hero ngl

  • @VickyKujikawa
    @VickyKujikawa Рік тому

    Very interetsing again! I came back to dota after they changed Drow's ultimate and it was a bit strange at first!. Cannot wait to see more videos from you, srsly one of the best dota videos out there.

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    @camiloposada1356 Рік тому +1

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  • @misterandmisisC
    @misterandmisisC Рік тому +3

    Good quality again !
    Now can you tackle about the atack classes ( default ,runty, piercing and reinforced) to help the laning phase

  • @Pokerace4477
    @Pokerace4477 Рік тому +4

    You could have also covered the marksmanship buff received by allied units

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    @abbybasher7247 Рік тому +1

    Damn! You are getting good every video you post. Keep it up man.

  • @serwizzart
    @serwizzart 9 місяців тому

    Well, thanks now I want every single hero in dota explained like that! Dude, you rock! I love your content!

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Рік тому +10

    That last one is definitely getting patched soon ;D
    I think an interesting ability to cover would ice blast, with how interacts with stat changes, the "shattering" and how it interacts with status
    Effects
    Come to think of it back then i tested veno's poisons against status resistance, the conclusion was so confusing that i didn't really get how Damage over Time interacts with status res

    • @METROIDKILLERX
      @METROIDKILLERX Рік тому +1

      Came here specifically to request ice blast, as well!

    • @user-eg6jf7ry7e
      @user-eg6jf7ry7e Рік тому +1

      It's not getting patched since it used to use mana for casting frost arrows on split hits and it was so mana demanding that aghs felt like a mana burn, so they removed the mana cost for those
      It's even stated as an intended buff rather than the bug fix
      However they may change the way whether or not frost arrows will be cast by binding split arrow type to the original projectile, not to the ability autocast

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      Thanks! Trying hard to make the quality better so glad you noticed :)

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  • @approximatelyzero398
    @approximatelyzero398 Рік тому +1

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  • @yongjeonsa5906
    @yongjeonsa5906 Рік тому +1

    Very informative video!

  • @lunkenn3944
    @lunkenn3944 Рік тому +1

    the part where if u activate frost arrow after attacking and the attack bounces to another target frost arrow get applied also works for battle fury with troll, if u attack (ranged) with troll and switch to melee before the attack lands battle fury cleave will be applied

  • @ToeXx
    @ToeXx Рік тому

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    Please make bounty hunter's gold stealing shenanigans.
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    @wsk1124 Рік тому +1

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  • @rahrahrah6969
    @rahrahrah6969 Рік тому +3

    the last interaction of frost arrows being autocasted after the attack is kinda the same as troll warlords Q toggle. Whenever you try to attack as a range unit and then toggle Q right after to become a melee the root effect can proc.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +1

      Ahh, interesting. Thanks for pointing this out.

  • @grond665
    @grond665 Рік тому

    Again really great video

  • @Massacre9700
    @Massacre9700 Рік тому

    This video helps me a lot wow thank you so much bro

  • @FahmiZFX
    @FahmiZFX Рік тому

    Owh yeaaah, I think you should make a video on Echo Slam. It looks simple on paper, and somewhat understood, but people seem to miss the fact that most of the damage comes from the Echo generated from units, while the Slam itself does very little damage.

    • @AnadronDZH
      @AnadronDZH Рік тому

      how exactly people are missing out??? more units = more damage, more heroes = even more damage, its super clear to everybody, whats your point??

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    Magnificent video

  • @SapereAude625
    @SapereAude625 Рік тому

    Cool video, appreciate your work
    Could you clarify how drow's armor pierce works with decreasing enemies' armor? Will decreasing affect base or bonus armor?

    • @ananthdayakar4401
      @ananthdayakar4401 Рік тому

      He mentioned it in the video, it ignores all base armor

  • @yenyen4532
    @yenyen4532 Рік тому +1

    This video is so cool man! I curious about the gold from killing hero as it is very mechanical thing. would be very appreciate if you provide about that information.

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      That's a really good idea. thank you! Making a note of this.

  • @akumpawatjr
    @akumpawatjr Рік тому

    Can you do a video on how Dazzles ultimate works? Is i remember correctly, the description says cooldown reduction of 50% but actually it reduces by a couple of seconds only. Also didn't reduce ally cooldowns by 50%

  • @avo616
    @avo616 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a video on Earthshaker’s ultimate? I swear sometimes it does like double the damage it should.

  • @ArminHaba
    @ArminHaba Рік тому

    5:05 Marksmanship triggered about as often as if I was playing that drow there

  • @snyperheadshoot
    @snyperheadshoot Рік тому +2

    I would suggest Dark Willow's Bedlam, pretty confusing spell

  • @Daniel-zr4pk
    @Daniel-zr4pk Рік тому

    Pls do a video on Chances and procs. I think there is something Level related - like 20 level hero always instabashes level 10 hero? It is not stated in dota wiki but it is something i notice when playing

  • @joachimbikas880
    @joachimbikas880 Рік тому

    If you dont mind putting your thoughts on marci rebound mechanics thanks.

  • @kungking191
    @kungking191 3 місяці тому

    Hey I get an argument about damage proc from marksmanship so if the green armor block all the base damage it should still have damage from proc marksmanship 80 damage right?

  • @daniellekelli6265
    @daniellekelli6265 Рік тому +1

    How does Spectre free pathing work after dagger? It does not seem consistent sometimes

  • @benw4361
    @benw4361 Рік тому +1

    I'd like to know how wrath of nature works, for example if you cast it, does it snapshot all units in vision and hit them even if they leave vision, or is it dynamic and hitting everything that comes into vision, until there are no targets left?

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Thanks for the suggestion! Video on this coming soon 👀

  • @jackiehadi6410
    @jackiehadi6410 Рік тому +1

    can you explain, how creep and tower aggro really works? thankyou

  • @vetomcie2319
    @vetomcie2319 Рік тому

    Hmmm so if the bonus DMG is added after the crit calculation, how does it come that in the video, when you attack Sven you do 364 everytime but when a marksman arrow goes, you do 451 ? Seems to me that the bonus DMG is added before crit calculation
    Love your videos btw, best concept on dota 2 right now, love how deep you go in the subjects

  • @RCagataySahin
    @RCagataySahin 10 місяців тому

    Could you cover all the randomness in the game? Like what is the actual probability of hitting miss to HG, are each RNG has a pseudo-random distribution?

  • @mahdiyarnofouzi5248
    @mahdiyarnofouzi5248 Рік тому

    The splinter actualy used mana for frost arrows previously but they change it in a patch.

  • @jackiehadi6410
    @jackiehadi6410 Рік тому

    i enjoy the video, and the comment section too.. so interesting to learn this old game again lol

  • @Jo-uy5vf
    @Jo-uy5vf Рік тому +1

    Could you do a video about Necrophos' ulti next?

  • @icecream1882
    @icecream1882 Рік тому +1

    Awsome!

  • @mactheo2574
    @mactheo2574 Рік тому +1

    Did you use elevenlabs for CM and Gaben narrations? Very cool!

  • @endro7503
    @endro7503 Рік тому

    So if you just do 1 frost attack with frost arrows not on autocast, it doesn't apply it to the splinters?

  • @Lagbara
    @Lagbara Рік тому +1

    Do about Silencer's combo, cause when my teammates used it they didn't deal that much but when enemy using it, the deal a lot of damage

  • @sescruceria
    @sescruceria Рік тому

    We need a video about how actually Nullyfier works

  • @Lagbara
    @Lagbara Рік тому +1

    Do about Spirit Breaker's shard, cause I feel like there's still a lot of people who doesn't know what it does.

  • @veikkamaenpaa3265
    @veikkamaenpaa3265 Рік тому

    Can you make a video on kunkkas tidebringer with multiple crit items such as silver edge

  • @deVries015
    @deVries015 Рік тому

    Nice! Next do Death Prophet ult!

  • @bekchanovj
    @bekchanovj Рік тому

    that Lina looks fire

  • @terencekeith
    @terencekeith Рік тому +1

    Hi, I got a question, every character agh upgrade has positive benefits for them, but why clockwerks overclocking gets self stunned after using it? Seems like the only character which gets punished for using the upgrade

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +1

      Not exactly sure 🤔 Maybe that would be a good thing to go over. At least it's not all punishments though, it still gives some positives.

  • @sajidsahadat2927
    @sajidsahadat2927 Рік тому

    make one on how stat sharing works, such as morph ult scepter, meepo, and druid

  • @quikbrush
    @quikbrush Рік тому

    Question. Did Markmanship use to proc Crit and it doesn't now?

  • @science1943
    @science1943 Рік тому +1

    please do a video on silencer W and E spells

  • @cotaspedro7
    @cotaspedro7 Рік тому

    interesante tus videos, muchas gracias. Podrias hacer un video de como funciona el daño que causa nyx aseesin cuando quema maná?

    • @stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891
      @stfu-pi-ddk1ddo891 Рік тому

      Si no me equivoco el daño de w de nix assasin se basa en un daño base multiplicado por x veces la cantidad de inteligencia del enemigo, si no me equivoco el daño es igual al maná quemado, pero no estoy seguro cómo funciona la reducción de daño y el maná quemado, aunque apostaría por que es algo como maná quemado - reducción de daño

  • @Filip1613
    @Filip1613 Рік тому

    I just found out that multishot from Drow doesn't scale with your attack dmg from items but it does from your agi from items. I got rapiers in demo to try out killstreak effects and it did no extra dmg. But 6 butterfly gave me extra dmg. There is no mention of this in the ability so if you want to make a vid about it that'd be cool

  • @ZurinArctus0
    @ZurinArctus0 Рік тому +1

    Just found out your video, good content and keep up, can I request Slight fist from ember? Thanks

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому

      Thank you! Good suggestion. I'll plan on making a video to cover that. Seems like a good one.

  • @mathaninja8177
    @mathaninja8177 Рік тому

    Would love to see one of these on earth spirits magnetize

  • @mushroomwine8294
    @mushroomwine8294 Місяць тому

    so if the target has 100-16 armor draw ult will do -16armor damage?

  • @oscargonzalez3599
    @oscargonzalez3599 Рік тому

    That...mmm that is a lot to keep in check for Dota X,D
    In conclusion, get armor bonus against Drow LOL But good video!!! really like it!

  • @tomtoma3752
    @tomtoma3752 Рік тому +1

    Great video. I subscribed. Please do one about my favorite hero io

    • @zzadrianzz
      @zzadrianzz  Рік тому +1

      I definitely plan on doing one on Io since that's my favorite hero as well!

  • @jadhabli7351
    @jadhabli7351 Рік тому +1

    Can you cover all of shadow demon's spells since most are confusing to understand

  • @megasuperglist1606
    @megasuperglist1606 Рік тому

    Immediately left a like after the search engines joke. Really funny

  • @turquoisephoenix9931
    @turquoisephoenix9931 Рік тому

    I really like this version of drow ultimate... sometimes you dont need damage items just items that will enable you to survive tough fights and attack lots hoping for procs

    • @RegMeow
      @RegMeow Рік тому

      For herald player Deso and Daeda

    • @turquoisephoenix9931
      @turquoisephoenix9931 Рік тому

      @@RegMeow daeda is still good 2 things to hope for crit procs and ulti procs deso only base race situations

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard Рік тому

      Modern Drow build need movements and escape like dagger or invis. You just need 2 damage items for drow.

  • @Skulltroxx
    @Skulltroxx Рік тому +2

    echoslam or magnetize next please, thanks :)

  • @jaysonleonida5468
    @jaysonleonida5468 Рік тому +1

    You deserve 1m subscribers

  • @rev9115
    @rev9115 Рік тому

    analysis on does taunting enemies in all chat make them likely to be more aggressive and make mistakes?
    and if so what ROLES have more ego and more prone to taunting within thousands of games?

  • @MrCacheclash
    @MrCacheclash Рік тому +2

    @zzADRiANzz Wait buddy!You forgot to explain us the principal hidden thing!
    How much is the damage reduction from aghanim split shot!?
    (Your videos are 👍)

  • @Pixrl3491
    @Pixrl3491 Рік тому +1

    You didn’t say about the attack modifiers applied to splinter attack. Also, nothing about true strike when marksmanship proc, it’s useful against pa and others. Heralds video

  • @sammyd5098
    @sammyd5098 Рік тому +1

    How does nature wraith work?

  • @rodolfonunes9643
    @rodolfonunes9643 Рік тому

    How Zeus E work next pls, sometimes you try to jump foward, but it doesn't work

  • @dragunaut.
    @dragunaut. Рік тому +2

    make a video on adaptive strike

  • @tonygin5942
    @tonygin5942 Рік тому

    I prefer the old edit where every edit you put in actually help explain what you need to know easier/ better. the unnecessary edit at the beginning like this one kinda off putting to me. But hey it's your video, what you do is what you do. As long as I learn something new I appreciated for your time putting into it.

  • @diobrando5974
    @diobrando5974 Рік тому

    About the last condition. I mean that’s how Storm Spirit worked for freakin 9 years. His passive triggers mid flight when you press q, which doesn’t really make sense since the projectile is already far away, how does it get overcharged? So, that’s just how Dota physics work, not a bug

  • @tritonchanel8570
    @tritonchanel8570 Рік тому +1

    could you please do rupture or ice blast

  • @keanemgl
    @keanemgl Рік тому +1

    Keep uploading

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    @user-in4je5yu8o Рік тому

    Looks like we got a new successful youtuber here guys

  • @anjaymabar9725
    @anjaymabar9725 Рік тому +1

    Can anyone explain me the damage calculation of drow buying desolator ?

  • @jackwaterloo8464
    @jackwaterloo8464 Рік тому

    A lot of people don't know how OD astral steals mana and how OD ult damage is calculated. I've even seen pros explain it wrong on stream

  • @rubengalue9238
    @rubengalue9238 Рік тому +1

    8,5% on first attack from basher? i call cap on that one, enemies always jump on me and insta bash me, so i'm guessing the wiki meant 850%