Thank you for your wonderful question. in 1949, after the Communist Party defeated the Nationalist Party in mainland China, Communist Party leader Mao Zedong declared China as "中華人民共和國", which directly translates to "The People's Republic of China".
@@regalcompendium so the Republic of China is defeated by the People's Republic of China. There's an old saying in the west, if you can't defeat 'em, join 'em😀✌️
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again. It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island. If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
@@katrinoy1 Please Answer: When ROC takes over “All” of China.... Will the ROC want a “Weak”; “Fragmented” China..? ...Ie allow other provinces/places to Succeed from China...? such as Tibet/Xinjiang/Hong Kong/etc...? OR Will ROC enforce a “United”; One Strong China...? (Regardless of what ~1billion Chinese mainlanders feel about the CCP;.... ....They absolutely Do Not Want to return to the days of “Foreign Manueaption and Humiliation..!) ...If ROC wants a United/Strong China.... Collision is Guaranteed to Occur with USA/India/Japan/etc...!
It is called China before KMT came to power, then it is named as " ROC". After KMT was defeated by CCP at end of a civil war, its name changed to "PRC" under Communist ruled.
If my knowledge is not outdated, ROC still claim PRC territory it’s territory constitutionally, and do not recognize PRC as an independent country. And PRC do the same on Taiwan island area and ROC. So technically, there is only one China but two government that still under civil war. So unless ROC amend its constitution, it’s unlawful to call Taiwan a country in any means.
Somewhat outdated. The DPP have won in the previous presidential elections and they are the ones pushing to change the One-China-Policy into a Two China Policy. RoC is just the name of the country, the political party that's pushing for the One China Policy is the KMT and now they have been unseated. The constitutional changes is only a matter of time, and that's sort of why we see China do some very rash actions lately.
@@madensmith7014 I do realize they won the new election, but no one dare to touch the constitution yet. And most people believe touching the constitution will lead to war, and people are losing fate on the idea that America will actually fully support Taiwan militarily. And I actually believe that White House will not allow any party trying to change the constitution. And as soon the roc constitution is not change. There’s still one China.
@@madensmith7014 I believe keeping Taiwan at this blurry stage is the best leverage for Taiwan and the US on PRC. And that’s why DDP is playing around the one China policy trying to make some noise but will never actually going to address the core issue of “independence”
@@madensmith7014 Tsi and DDP have led ROC for like six years now. And the biggest noise they could make is changing the cover of their passport. People wants to ignore the fact that the independence of Taiwan is never decided by anyone in Taiwan. It’s always only a part of the Beijing-DC wrestling.
ROC+ PRC = One China. UN Resolution 2758 states that there is only one China in the world, and the PRC represents China As long as you talk about Taiwan independence 😂, it means that the facts are >>> (The Republic of China is part of China, so it needs independence) Independence refers to the governing government of a locality, which obtains sovereignty from its suzerainty and becomes an independent state #中華民國不是中國的一部分為什麼需要獨立? The fact is that Taiwan is part of China #已經是國家了還要再獨立? The fact is that Taiwan is part of China
Taiwan is not called Republic of China.Taiwan is the name of an island. Republic of China is a country name that this island belongs to. The same as, you can’t say why California is called USA.
When the United States of America is divided into the Republic of America and the United States of America, and the territory of the United States of America is only California, perhaps California can be called the United States of America. But Kinmen of Republic of China is belone Fujian province not Taiwan Island.😀
@@峰-w7i Know your history. The ROC name was adopted by the Chinese government from China fleeing from the communists after the KMT army lost the battle with communist peasant rebels. Taiwan was initially the safe refuge of ROC - Thanks for the US support - the occupier of Japanese territories after the Japanese surrender in 1945. While in China, ROC's government did not include Taiwan as it was part of Japan until the 1951 peace treaty.
@@herosio270 American history is totally different with Taiwan history. Taiwan had no civil war. There war no communist rebellion. The white terror in Taiwan in 1947 was just from ordinary Taiwanese who were not happy with the then KMT people being incompetent and corrupt ruling the population with military dictatorship.
Easy fact: Taiwan was the RoC. CCP defeated KMT in 1949 and replaced RoC in mainland China with PRC. RoC government fled to Taiwan island and continued to exist till this day. So yeah, there are in fact two China! Or at least two Chinese governments. Both of which are claiming the sovereignty over the mainland China as well as Taiwan island.
Not two China as territory. Two governments representing China. But it was over. Facts after the civil war ended in 1949. PRC is the government of China country and ROC is the government of Taiwan country. The country is a land territory and it is represented by the name of government ruling the country. That's TAIWAN is the country ruled by ROC government today. Imagine the country GREECE is ruled by the government of Hellenic Republic. Some people don't know the government but it is easier to remember the country's territorial name.
@@thornados4969 the civil war never officially ended. And as per UN resolution 2758, passed on 25 October 1971, recognized the People's Republic of China (PRC) as "the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations" and removed "the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek" (referring to Republic of China (ROC)) from the United Nations. The following year, the US (then the sole global hegemon) further afirms this through the Shanghai communique of 1972. This is an excerpt from that communique from page 815, taken from the Office of Historian US government website: "the Government of the People’s Republic of China is the sole legal government of China; Taiwan is a province of China which has long been returned to the motherland; the liberation of Taiwan is China’s internal affair in which no other country has the right to interfere; and all U.S. forces and military installations must be withdrawn from Taiwan. The Chinese Government firmly opposes any activities which aim at the creation of “one China, one Taiwan,” “one China, two governments,” “two Chinas,” and “independent Taiwan” or advocate that “the status of Taiwan remains to be determined.” The U.S. side declared: The United States acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China. The United States Government does not challenge that position. It reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves. With this prospect in mind, it affirms the ultimate objective of the withdrawal of all U.S. forces and military installations from Taiwan. In the meantime, it will progressively reduce its forces and military installations on Taiwan as the tension in the area diminishes." Technically, they are still one country.
Exactly, just like there are 2 Koreas both claiming the whole of the Korea peninsula, but the territory and population difference is massive in this case, so the PRC has the leverage to dictate its terms to the world, and be recognized as ‘China’ by most of the other countries.
@@Mysteryboy0007 According to the most recent poll taken by adults in Taiwan, 67% identify as primarily Taiwanese, 28% identify as both Taiwanese & Chinese, and only 3% identify as primarily Chinese
One time a person from school asked me about something he learned in class, “did you know that Taiwan is officially called The Republic of China”, I felt like correcting him on the omission of the non-Taiwanese parts of ROC but didn’t and said “yes”. He asked, “isn’t that weird, how they randomly think they are Chinese for some reason.” I wanted to explain most Taiwanese today don’t actually think that, and those who do don’t do it “randomly”. but I knew it would take forever to explain so I just shrugged. It was always amazing to me how a seemingly simple situation can seem so complex and convoluted to an outsider. They understand there were and are other countries divided into two because of ideologies: north and south Koreas, East and West Germanys, north and south Vietnams but when it comes to the two Chinas they suddenly can’t wrap their minds around it.
@@jw1731 It's really a matter of perception. Imagine if all of Germany west of the Oder was given to the FRG after WWII, and East Prussia became the GDR instead of being split up between Poland and Russia. It would be the same situation, and we'd have videos asking "why does Prussia officially call itself the German Democratic Republic?"
@@herosio270 Before 1952, Formosa (Taiwan island), Pescadores (including Kinmen and Matzu islands were officially parts of Japan empire. The Empire of Japan captured Kinmen in 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War. After 1952, Japan surrendered its rights - Taiwan territories theoretically became independent but the Americans allowed the exiled government authority of ROC to continue the occupation until it became a fully free democratic country represented by Taiwanese people. ROC lost control of China since 1949.
@@thornados4969 The Japs ruled Kinmen Island for 8 years (just 1937-1945, as too many area of China ,even almost half of China was ruled by Japs at this times) ， and Kinmen Island never ever be a part of Taiwan, it is always a part of Fujian Province. would you take a look about map and history of Kinmen? Do you know where is Kinmen?
@@herosio270 The Japs captured Kinmen to include it as part of Taiwan's colonial government. Only the Japs were able to fully control the entire island and the little islands now being a free country Taiwan as a whole. Before Japan, the Chinese dynasty never actually controlled Taiwan. The Fujian local government merely monitored the Chinese emigrants and settlers in different locations in eastern part. The central and western part of Taiwan island were controlled by the Taiwanese aborigines.
@@thornados4969他媽的，我的國家叫中華民國，不是台灣共和國 FUCK, my country is called the Republic of China, not the Republic of Taiwan 一一一一一 Internationally recognized (in World War II, the Republic of China was a representative regime of China, so the Republic of China is China, this is known to everyone) 一一一一 一 If "the Republic of China is not part of China" can directly create a state, why independence, you are stupid Independence refers to the governing government of a locality, which obtains sovereignty from its suzerainty and becomes an independent If I were The President of the Republic of China Whoever wants to become the Republic of Taiwan, I will revoke his ROC citizenship
Actually, there is a significant difference between Taiwan and ROC. Today’s ROC includes 2 Provinces + 6 Special municipalities. Taiwan is technically a province name under ROC, while the other one is Fuchien. If we talk about Taiwan Province, then that’s the Taiwan Island minus the 6 cities and plus some small islands near Taiwan Island.
@@becritical7476 The non-functional unrealistic provinces were abolished in 2018. Taiwan is now a unitary state with 22 subnational divisions with local government.
yea, this video is very misleading, the word "taiwan" is never the name of any country or political entity, it's simply the geographical name of this island. this video makes it sound like the country taiwan changed the name to ROC to avoid war with china. but it's wrong.
Also, another interesting fact is that Hui Muslim in mainland China played an important role in Kuomintang Islamic insurgency in 1950s largely located in northern western part of mainland China. Hui Muslim insurgents were veterans of the Soviet invasion of Xinjiang, Sino-Tibetan War, the Second Sino-Japanese War, Ili Rebellion, and the Chinese Civil War.
@@1stPrinciples455 nonsense, look at 2015 Xi Jinping and Ma Yingjiu did met on Singapore and discussed on improving Cross-Straits Relations In the current situation, it is the Taiwanese politician decides to not talk with the mainland. The KMT wants to talk with mainland, but gets voted out by the Taiwanese. The DPP didn't want to talk the mainland, but making claims that make straits relation soured in these few years. Mainland said they willing to talk under the pretext of 1 Country 2 Systems. There are no ideal situation who they can both talk without compromising to the actual condition. At least to my common sense, it is the Taiwanese leadership that refuses to talk under the DPP government. The KMT sends their official to mainland occasionally, but the DPP? DPP didn't appeared once on conference face to face with the mainland officials. They don't even show their courtesy on resolving the Cross Straits issue. Mainland's stance was clear since the end of Civil War, and throughout they have in fact, talked and sat down with KMT before. Show me one example of Taiwan's DPP officials if they ever met face to face with the mainland. None.
@@䨝雨 @@䨝雨 DPP will talk to Mainland only if mainland respect democracy. Mainland now is a bulldozer and has said No Discussions, only obey and become a hk . Despite this, mainland can still say it wants talks. Talk, what kind of talk is the key issue. TW does not belong to ccp. This is a fact already the world knows . CCP can just invade if you want TW. No one is stopping CCP. TW was under Japan rule before PRC formed. When civil war breaks, a country changes territorial ownership and leaders. ROC govt went to TW and established dominance there and a few years later in 1952, Japan officially gave TW to ROC gov. This is all document facts
@@䨝雨 absolutely correct. china always has been the one goes like "hey... let's just sit down and talk". while taiwan is like "NOPE, i just like to kiss US ass and trigger you instead, cuz you know.... i'm an american dog oof oof"
The Republic of China 🇹🇼 is an independent country and Taiwan is the last province of the ROC government. I support the Kuomintang and in my opinion the ROC should have a second name called the “White China” while the PRC should be known as “Red China”. I personally don’t like the current President of the ROC and oppose the so called “Taiwan independence movement”. Rebellious and provocative I believe there should be a new status quo, “two chinas and two systems”. Personally the ROC should have remained as a one party state and adopted a tougher stance against the PRC. Hopefully I can travel to the ROC and perhaps visit the Chang Kai Shek memorial.
Thank you for uploading this. Hopefully more westerner watch this they will understand complicated history between two sides and even 2nd civil war was more complicated than just civil war it was basically a small cold war and it is not just independence or not thing. 谢谢你让西方国家人民知道中国历史和试着揭开误解。 其实两边情况是真的很复杂。
Thank you so much! This is the reason I started this channel. I live in North America and there is so much misunderstanding of China / Taiwan. I hope my videos could help better understanding China/Taiwan.
The island of Taiwan - a.k.a. Taiwan province - is called the Republic of China because of the Chinese civil war, which technically had never ended. There is only a sort of temporary pause, amicable ceasefire of sorts. This civil war was fought between the KMT party and the CCP party of China between the 30's to 50's - with the bulk of the fighting having reached its climax and ending in the late 40's. So give or take around a decade of fighting between the 2 parties while World War 2 occurred in the background. Upon the KMT's defeat in the civil war, the right-wing branch of the KMT party (Led by General Shek) fled to Taiwan province and took refuge there ever since - setting up the Republic of China's government on the island. Meanwhile, the CCP on the mainland began a new era - so called New China - with the proclamation of the birth of the PRC - People's Republic of China. Overtime, the UN switched their recognition of China from the ROC to the PRC - with the PRC having the global backing in representing Chinese people and the Chinese nation on the world stage. This move by the UN put the ROC in a catch .22 situation. If the ROC decided to retake the mainland by force - which they can not do without incredible military support from foreign forces - the ROC government would be restored back to its original and historical seat of power. If the ROC does not decide to retake the mainland - the ROC's identity would erode and be replaced by what we would call Taiwan today - it's current popular identity amongst the majority of the island's inhabitants. However, eventually though this Taiwan identity would not last and would be reunified under a common Chinese identity. The tricky party here is, throughout most of the island's history - and even more so the ROC banner - ROC mostly was representative of the KMT party alone. This is because the KMT was an authoritarian party when she ruled the mainland and also when she fled and set up government on the island of Taiwan until around the late 80's when the ROC became a Democracy and allowed other parties to run for elections. Ultimately, the master plan the CCP has for China, for the island of Taiwan and for Chinese people's future is unity and homogeny being first and foremost. This does not come as a surprise because if anyone knows two licks of modern Chinese history, they would know that China had been through deep fragmentation in all aspects of her nation - socially, economically and militarily - within the last 150 - 200 years. The thing about global geopolitical brinksmanship and the often too common divide and conquer employed by various powers is divide your enemy while maintaining your own solidarity. USA right now is trying to divide China - just as the Chinese CPC is trying to divide the KMT party - with Pro CCP KMT vs. Anti CCP KMT. The DPP are all very unified - heavy worshippers of money and Japan. In conclusion though, I do not think the KMT and CCP will ever fight again. The ROC will eventually retire and all non-CCP parties will work with the CCP in moving China forward. Democracy or not - the main point would be unity in strength.
You are daydreaming. Taiwan is not part of China since 1895 treaty with Japan kicking Qing forces out of Taiwan in perpetuity. Perpetuity means out indefinitely, forever, no end that China should be out of Taiwan. That's the 1895 Japan-China treaty. So there is no return. In 1951 Japan peace treaty, Japan surrendered the rights of sovereignty meaning Korea and Japan were free since 1951 for self-determination by the own people. The US provided support in Taiwan Relation Act 1979 against aggressor as expected from Chinese threats. Those are facts. Note , ROC vs PRC was about representation to rule China and Taiwan is out of the competition because it was part of Japan.
@@Heartadia Japan did not stole anything. Everything was signed by treaties in 1895 and 1951. You copied the fake communist propaganda who has not participated in any of the event.
@@thornados4969 Unequal war treaties, of which became neutralized and all stolen lands returned to the Chinese after WW2. You can keep up the lies but the truth never dies. Nippon Banzai :O!
@@Heartadia Treaties are legal. History speaks itself that Taiwan doesn't belong to China. Communist regime claim on Taiwan is without basis and illegal. China should respect the people rights and stop disturbing peace in the region. Taiwan is not part of China for over hundred years. That is a fact.
Only if Sun Yat-sen lived a little longer, this split may not have happened. I read he wanted to include the communists in the government. Both of his successors just weren't as compassionate.
In the nutshell: 1. Mainland China(A piece of big land consist of China Proper, Manchuria, Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang), Macau, Hong Kong and Taiwan belongs to a nation called "CHINA". 2. People's Republic of China is the official name of the government that formally established in Beijing during 1949 by Mao Ze Dong now controls the Mainland and a portion of Spratly Islands. Macau and Hong Kong are technically independent but officially part of PRC special administrative region. This is the government that currently represents China in the UN security council. 3. Republic of China is the official name of the government that formally established in Canton during 1925 by Sun Yat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek but traces it's origins as Nanjing Provisional Government of the Republic of China in 1912. Currently, it controls the Island of Taiwan, Kinmen, Matsu, Penghu, a portion of Spratly Islands and Taiping Island/Itu Apa Island ( A strategically important island roughly the size of Singapore.) This is the government that represents China in the UN security council from 1945 until 1971. 4. So, China is a nation that has four governments, two of them have a huge proper military force with nuclear weapons manufacturing capabilities. The other two are actually autonomous region with it's own laws and institution.
Your nutshell have many flaws. When ROC was formed in China, the territories of Taiwan main and other smaller islands were part of Japan since 1895 Qing-Japan treaty until 1951 Japan peace treaty. In 1949, After losing control of China the ROC government officials along with millions of Chinese refugees fled from China to seek safe refuge to Taiwan with the approval of the US - the lead occupier of Japanese territories including Taiwan after the Japanese surrender in 1945. So, in summary the competition of ROC and PRC was about representation of China only (Taiwan was not part China). ROC remained to be the occupier as government authority of Taiwan by refugee officials of ROC. The democracy in Taiwan after 1987 lifting of Martial law had allowed participation of Taiwan-born residents until full democratization of ROC government today which is elected by and for the Taiwanese. Taiwan is collective name of the territorial country "free areas" under the ROC government. Because of China's abuse of UN permanent seat power, the application of ROC restoration of UN membership representing Taiwan country had been out rightly rejected for at least 11 times.
@@thornados4969 TW was under Japan occupatiom until 1952 where Japan returned it to ROC and not PRC formed in 1949, years before tw was released by japan. So since that day, plus 50 years before, TW has not been under PRC or gov of mainland China.
@@1stPrinciples455 So China's PRC claim on Taiwan is baseless and illegal. BTW, Japan did not transfer the sovereignty to China. Using his ROC official, Gen. Chiang was only tasked by the US as occupier of Japanese territories after WWII.
@@thornados4969 No country is permanent. No country has rights to own any territory permanently eternally. A country is purely an Artificial Construct which are all not original owners of the territory. Before the Chinese, other humans owned the territory. All it takes is a war for territories to change ownership. Humans remain at this stage of civilisation which started thousands of years ago. To reiterate, history does not secure ownership of a territory. A war today determines who owns what. War is war. Period. But if war breaks out between the 2 countries, i predict the chinese of Taiwan will capitulate in exchange for being spared their lives this is regardless if USA helps or not. Chinese are Chinese. They are very good at self preservation. Self is Above Sovereignty, Country. The taiwanese have a saying 民主不能當飯吃, which is literally translated as democracy is not what you need which is money. Taiwan is internally split into pro china and pro independence camps. Most are partisan and vote based on hatred. Its a failed democracy and not surprisingly as democracy is not natural to chinese which is why taiwan has failed becos chinese people are aping democracy. KMT is likely to cooperate with CCP and KMT chief will be the next Kerry Lam. History has proven the KMT will cooperate with CCP and get played out. Betrayal happens all the time in chinese history. They call this, 吃里趴外，里應外和，漢奸，走狗，出賣。Chinese dna is 人不為己，天誅地滅。We the Chinese are All about the Self above All Else including the country. Will do whatever to preserve the self. Democracy has no economic value to me. Above are my prophecies for Taiwan. See if i am right.
It does not matter ROC once ruled China. What matters when it comes to ownership of a land is who occupies it now, and its usually by military force. For example, the aborigines came before the chinese to tw. So one can say the aborigines own tw. But so what? The human construct of Country is whoever occupies a land now owns the land. ROC govt escaped to TW and OCCUPIED TW. There and then TW belonged to ROC govt led by CKS. PRC only occupied Mainland. Whether ROC previously owns TW or not is not material. War created this change. Japan returned TW to ROC even though PRC was forned before this handover. Legally, TW is under ROC and not PRC. Korea can be called China too if China bonbs Korea. So, a name is merely a human construct and territory names and ownerships can change at ANY TIME. Just invade and occupy. You only own a country until the day a war breaks where territories change hands. Is there any more i need to say ?
you know nothing about history about TAINWAN. Obviously, it was ancient Chinese people who discovered this island, neither Portuguese, Spanish nor Dutch. From 3 century AD, many Chinese has begun to move to this island. In ancient chinese history book, Taiwan had already attained its names, Yizhou, Dongshi or Liuqiu. In the period of Three Kingdoms in China, the local court of Wu had gained it territory of Taiwan, one thousand and three hundred years before westerner's arrival. Since then, most Chinese Dynasties continued their rules in Taiwan. And that's the reason why nearly 98 precent of its population is Chinese descendant. Spanish, Portuguese and Japanese are all intruders.
In Dutch phonology, J is pronounced similar to i or y. So Taijowan, also spelt as Taiyowan and many other ways by the Dutch, was pronounced more like Taiyowan. Koxinga was never called Zheng Chenggong. His name was Tēnn Sim (鄭森), or Zheng Shen in Mandarin Chinese. He was given the Ming royal name along with the name "Success" by the Southern Ming Emperor Rongwu, making his royal given name Tsu Sîng-kong (朱成功), or Zhu Chenggong in Mandarin Chinese. He would have avoided mentioning the royal name itself, and referred to himself as Chenggong of the Royal Last Name, in Hokkien it would be Kok-sìng Sîng-kong (國姓成功). His followers and other Ming supporters would have avoided mentioning his name, and call him Lord with the Royal Last Name, in Hokkien it would be Kok-sìng-iâ (國姓爺). That is how we got Koxinga in Spanish and Dutch. It was the Manchus who wanted to downplay Tsu Sîng-kong's importance and forbade addressing him with the Ming royal last name. Since the Qing dynasty is no more, I find it ridiculous that historians would continue to refer to him using a mangled and inaccurate name. He should either be Tēnn Sim, Zheng Shen, Tsu Sîng-kong, Zhu Chenggong, or Tagawa Fukumatsu, since he was born to a Japanese mother in Japan, and lived there without his father until 7 or 8 years old. The last Ming emperor wasn't overthrown by the Qing, he was overthrown by the peasant revolt leader Li Zicheng.
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You forgot to mention the important UN resolution 2578 and the 3 communiqués which describe very well the status quo of Taiwan/ROC today and why China is on the right side if it claims that there is only one legitimate China.
I hope this will educate the people from west, so you don’t just simply support Taiwan’s independence, its a very complicated issue, we as Chinese still seek a peaceful way to reunify China. Think about Hawaii or California to USA or Northern Ireland to UK or Catalonia to Spain, will those countries allow these regions to be independent? It’s never about democracy or freedom, it’s about interests to all different parties, so don’t just judge this if you don’t have the knowledge.
My motherland is the Republic of China🇹🇼. I am a Chinese and a Taiwanese. The Republic of China 🇹🇼 is the first Chinese and the first Asian country with actual democracy, freedom and human rights, and it ranks eighth in the current international democracy and freedom (first in Asia). We Have perfect medical care and communication channels with the government, so that our rights will not be persecuted. However, since the founding of the Republic of China 🇹🇼 in 1912, the events in the country have been ups and downs. In the end, only Taiwan Island、Penghu Islands、Kinmen Islands、and Matsu Islands are left. However, we will not surrender to the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳. We are like the “Eastern Roman Empire” , even if only There is a small territory left, we will not just surrender, even if we are killed in battle, everyone will enter the Martyrs' Shrine together.
No matter u agreed Republic of China or People’s republic of China, there’s only one China in the world, but the current problem is many people in Republic of China (Taiwan) think they’re not belong to China anymore, Taiwan should be an independent country. Imagine if US government went to Hawaii, and mainland US territory belong to another American government, and Hawaiian think they’re not belong to US anymore after a few decades.
It is a lofty mission and a common aspiration of all Chinese people, including the Taiwan compatriots, to put an end to the cleavage between the two sides of the Taiwan Straits and realize the reunification of the motherland.
This is probably by far the most objective video I have ever watched about the Taiwan-China issue. Although the author clearly has no intention of misleading the audience (like most English creators or the online army from the Democratic Progressive Party), the facts presented in the video are not balanced enough. E.g., the author failed to tell the voting rate of the IOC vote, which is important for interpreting the result. Also, the IOC vote was more than a decade ago, and things have changed a lot since then (no matter what the reasons are).
Thank you so much for your kind words and constructive feedback. This sincerely means a lot to me. I try my absolute best to keep my videos as objective as possible; but like you said, I may need to work harder at balancing both sides. I will on this for future videos.
@@regalcompendium Thank you for your reply. Meanwhile, I hope you do not feel offended by what I wrote below. I personally think most (if not all) videos on the Taiwan-China dispute did not really touch a few core incidents, which were initiated/happened under Lee Teng-hui's rule, e.g. 1) The foreign policy reform (reference: "Taiwan's foreign relations under Lee Teng-Hui's rule" by Wang, T Y, American Asian Review); 2) Qiandao Lake incident (zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8D%83%E5%B2%9B%E6%B9%96%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6 ); 3) Last but not least - the education reform (zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E8%87%BA%E7%81%A3%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E6%94%B9%E9%9D%A9 ) These are no less important than the Wild Lily student movement, the Taipei mayoral election in 1994 and the presidential election in 2000. They shaped people's minds, which become the driving force of the Sunflower movement many years later. The narratives about Taiwan's public opinion towards independence generally fall into two categories: spontaneous nativism or the longing for freedom and democracy. However, too many historical facts in the 1990s, the decade after Chiang Ching-kuo's death, have been concealed.
The 'Republic of China' is a name adopted by KMT during its ruled in China and Taiwan. After DPP became ruling party inside Taiwan, they decided to drop it from the front cover of Taiwanese's passport to reduce confusion among foreign custom officers.
The name is still Republic of China, Taiwan is the name of the island. It is like referring to the United States of America as "America". The name of the country has nit changed regardless of DPP posturing.
The DDP dropping the English Name "Republic of China" from the passport cover caused a lot of backlash in mainland China. Numerous political commentators believe this was the DDP's primarily reason for the passport cover redesign (not because of helping foreign custom agents). This video was getting long so I had removed this part from the video.
@@regalcompendium It causes much confusion in many western countries' government. Many take ROC as the same 'nation' as PRC even with Taiwan printed below.
@@bowlampar I live in the West and I am come across many people who have very limited knowledge about Asia. This is why I am creating this channel. I really appreciate yours and everyone's feedback as it helps me going forward.
@@regalcompendium Asia is a complex region of long history fill with many kingdoms and rulers, it's no doubt can be very confusing to many including me.
taiwan n mainland were connected natives in taiwansouthchina n beringstraitnorthchina got same dna as those in australia, newzealand, americas, n all islands - so - whole pacific n half atlantic belong to china - so - return all to china with reparation n all afro latino euro indian ... immigrate back home to africa europe india ... they hatecrime racist witch hunt discriminate the chinese n even make the one n only law against a race to date for the chinese "go back to china" usa is on china's soil - hehehe
The official name has always been "Republic of China" (ROC). It's just that since the Communists took over mainland China in 1949 and formed the People's Republic (PRC), Taiwan is about the only part of the ROC that's left, in addition to a few small outlying islands.
Thanks for your interest in Sino History. During the Qing Dynasty, Taiwan was a province of China. You are can read more about this time period here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Qing_rule
This irrelevant as people around the world has always thought of the land that was previously known by several names is now called China, after the people who lived on this land. That is why the 56 different ethnic groups of people are collectively known as Chinese.
@@bowlampar Please check the constitution of China whether it is the constitution practised on the mainland or the constitution practised in the Province of Taiwan. Then you will see that China does indeed own Taiwan. Then check with your Government. Every Government in the World see that Taiwan is an island or a Province of China. This is regardless whether they recognise the Government in Taipei to represent the whole of China or the Government in Beijing to represent the whole of China.
Such as changing history books, and changing passports, but the people in Taiwan don't seem to agree with this, so it's not easy to change the constitution, and the most important thing is that if Taiwan doesn't recognize it as China, mainland China will have to use military force to unify
Because Taiwan is a province name and ROC is the country name Just like you can call Harry Potter as much as you like but his real name is Daniel Radcliffe, all of his official matters has to be settle under the name Daniel Radcliffe instead of Harry Potter Taiwan which is actually/officially ROC hav to admit a fact that their relationship with the PRC is that which of them is the official representative of the whole China, Not Two China, not one China one Taiwan
2023 March 29th At 22:32: I shouted out "Give some land to the Republic Of China", but actually the right statement should be: Return the land to the Republic Of China. It is: Return Republic Of China's land to Republic Of China. There is a 1946's map to refer to. Jie Song, in Florida, United States of America. 🐼
Taiwan never named themselves REPUBLIC OF CHINA, the KMT invaded Taiwan and still calls Taiwan a province, the only one they still have control over, besides the Matsu Islands which are technically part of Fukien Province, over which the ROC is still in control of, but limited to only the Matsu Islands, part of Lienchiang County, Fukien Province. So, ROC has two provinces, Taiwan and Fukien. That's why the ROC won't change its name to Taiwan, because it's NOT Taiwan, it's the Republic of China-On-Taiwan. The island's latest colonizers, the KMT, but now the PRC wants a piece, and the Chinese Civil War was never legally finished, there's been no surrender, so, technically they're still at war.
You have one country, you have two regimes, and they go to war. Similar to the Civil War in American history, except that the two regimes are still at war.
In other words, there are 2 countries having a common term called "China". Its just a name. TW was occupied by Japan and then returned to ROC. But MAO formed a new country called PRC that excluded TW which was occupied by a shrunken ROC which is only taiwan and no longer mainland. A easier way to understand this confusing name is to think of North and South Korea. Both countries share a common term called "Korea" . Same but Different thing totally. Mutually Exclusive. Just like North and South Sudan, North America and South America are totally Mutually Exclusive
Your examples are wrong and not applicable to Taiwan. The examples are one land territory divided into two territories for two different governments. Taiwan territory did not belong to China territory during the civil war in China territory. The government of China, ROC was overthrown by treacherous communist rebels to establish their own government PRC to replace ROC. The ROC officials were kicked out and eliminated out China to take safety refuge in another island territory Taiwan of Japan but occupied by the US after the surrender. With the acceptance of the US, ROC was in exile and ended as government of Taiwan. The main difference is that Taiwan was another territory not part of China when ROC was moved to Taiwan.
@@thornados4969 Long story short, Whoever Owns a Country No Longer Matters when a War breaks out Because the Territorial Ownership is Changed from that instant. This is the sad fact of War. So Ownership of a Country is Regardless of its History. Even if we consider History, the land called China does not belong to the Chinese when humans first set foot on what is now known as China territory. Please debunk me if anyone of you wants to
@@1stPrinciples455 Taiwan is not owned by China nor subject to ownership by a foreign country. China is using a false propaganda of war to justify their illegal claim. China has no right because the Taiwan has never ruled by China before and after 1945. It's wrong. The right one is for Taiwan to regain the ROC membership now as representative government of Taiwan since 1949. China has its veto power to block Taiwan's UN membership for at least 15 times. This should the right promotion rather that China's false propaganda of illegal claim.
@@thornados4969 Do you feel that "ROC" is not appropriate a name for Taiwan which does not belong to China. To Old Chiang, it makes sense. But to the present taiwan, i think the term ROC is no longer appropriate since taiwan is not china nor owned by china and for "ROC" to comprise the word "China" is misleading and inappropriate. My point is, Taiwan should not blindly continue to use the term ROC since its causing problems
Real China, Long Live the Republic of China! We will be back stronger than ever regain our lost lands in Siberia. Also, with warp drive light engine space planes and trading posts in other space colonies, create hundreds of trillion dollar public listed companies.
It was alright for the world to understand two Koreas, two Germanys, two Yemens. So it should be alright for the world to understand we have two Chinas, one Communist, one is not.
I do hope that the Chinese civil war will come to an end and that the people of the whole of China will reunite again where brothers and sisters, cousins, uncles and aunts do not fight each other any more. I hope that all the people of China will live together in peace and as one people, one family. Currently the Democratic system practised on the mainland seems to be the most effective and that the people there are enjoying a better life with more freedom than the people in the Province of Taiwan. I do hope that the Chinese people in Taiwan will be able to realise that and do not close their eyes, ears and hearts to their relatives across the straits.
@@roxylasch9058 LOL go check the facts first then come and comment again. You need to know how they vote for their leaders and how the structure of their voting system is then you will understand that the democracy practised there is different from what you have but it still is a democracy.
@@LoC28C China has one-party dictatorship. It's still a communist state but they adopted the western capitalist economic system, the key of China's rise as powerful country.
@@thornados4969 That shows you are totally ignorant about Chinese Politics. There are many political parties in China and there is an election every 4 years. Just that the structure of the elections is different from what you see in many other parts of the world.
@@LoC28C Yes you are right. There are 8 minor political parties in local level but they don't have power to oppose and can't participate the national level. Meaning the so called multi-party politics are under the cooperation, consultation and supervision of CCP - the only ruling party of PRC. In a democratic country like Taiwan, the multi-party politics are allowed not only in local level but also the national level including the top position presidency. So Taiwanese voter has to vote directly the candidate himself and not the party. The party of the elected president becomes the ruling party while the other parties role are opposition for check and balance of country's issues.
But how about your neighbours, we're antagonized by you now. China before was so accomodating with its neighbours. You wanted just to be a friend to us before, no quarrels, just trading with one another for what have it with another.
Guys, do you ever sometimes wonder whether Asia today would be at harmony and peace had the benevolent Nationalist China (ROC 🇹🇼) won the Chinese Civil War? Personally, I think things would at least be much better. If only we had some kind of time machine, brother. :( 1. North Korea would have been quickly destroyed, reuniting all of Korea under a democratic republic. 2. The Indian subcontinent would have been one happy family, and China and India would remain close allies and partners. 3. The Tibetans would be peacefully practicing Buddhism under an elected government. 4. Russia would have been changed into a pro-Western democracy, one way or another. 5. China and America would be the world's foremost superpowers, and best friends together leading the Western and Eastern civilizations, perhaps forever and ever. :) 【 USA🇺🇸 India🇮🇳 Japan🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷, Philippines 🇵🇭 Singapore 🇸🇬, France 🇫🇷, Australia 🇦🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Ukraine 🇺🇦 Europe 🇪🇺 Israel 🇮🇱 and China🇹🇼】
The ROC government took control of China in the past through a brutal dictatorship, and until now, the ROC government still claims South Tibet, Mongolia. They don't even have a Tibetan autonomous region like the PRC. I think you are a little idealistic, for example, the United States and Japan are democratic Allies, but the United States still regarded Japan as an enemy in the 1980s.
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again. It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island. If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
I hope the indigenous people of America, Australia and New Zealand will take back their land and kick the whites back to UK and let them unify their lost, unruly people. May the King pardoned their ancestor's crime which caused them to be banished to other's land.
For the same reason South Korea is called the Republic of Korea. The nation is Republic of China and Taiwan is a regional designation. South and North Korea are also regional designations for the Republic of Korea and Democratic Republic of Korea. There's nothing strange about being Republic of China as there is no Republic of Taiwan.
You are exactly correct. I live in the west, and the majority of people around me have never even heard of "Republic of China". This is why I am creating this channel.
Pre-1949 defeat they were the official govt of China. Ur explanation makes perfect sense .. hence the political sensitivity. Renaming themselves as The Republic Of Taiwan is the red line triggering the unthinkable .. best 2 retain their current title & hence adhere 2 the (conveniently ambiguous) One China Policy & the status quo (which's official US & allied policy) .. but they are self-governing & already effectively independent. Thx 4 the excellent history lesson helping me 2 understand my original heritage. Final thought: interesting isn't it, that BOTH the PRC & Taiwan revere Sun Yut Sen as the founder of "modern" China.
Imagine if the USA didn't fully defeat CSA , instead CSA retreat to Texas, and than wants to declare Texas as a country and don't want any ties as America. This is what the China Taiwan relationship now.
That tactic could not work. Taiwan is not a sovereign state. Taiwan is an island. In 1949, Chiang Kai Shek and his two million KMT soldiers landed on the island of Taiwan after they lost the Chinese civil war to the Chinese communists. At that time, the island of Taiwan was already under the United States Military Government (USMG). Why? When Japan surrendered to the Allied Forces in 1945, Japan returned the island of Taiwan to China. Taiwan (the Formosa) was a Japanese territory for fifty years. Chiang Kai Shek then reorganizes the government of the Republic of China in Taiwan till today. At all times till today, the Constitution adopted and used is the Constitution of the Republic of China, as amended brought by Chiang Kai Shek to Taiwan.
Taiwan is a sovereign state. Even grade schoolers know it. Communists won the war but the government did not dissolved. Does your communists government controls the government of taiwan? Does the laws of the CCP being implemented in Taiwan? Does the people of Taiwan recognized Xi Jinping as their head of the state? NO . So how can you say it is not a sovereign state?
Almost none of the other comments here are productive or genuine. It’s a lot of disingenuous rambling, memes, and overall shitposting. I recommend everyone read John Tay’s Books on Chiang Kai Shek and Jiang Jing Guo, as well as other histories of Taiwan. You know, actual real scholarship.
Fact: Taiwan is not a country, instead, part of country called Republic of China or People's Republic of China, depending on which side you live. Thus, there should never be any confusion. The confusion as discussed in the video is the intentional misleading driven by current ROC government in Taiwan controlled by DPP, which is seeking independence of Taiwan from China. On top of that, west media propaganda is misleading the public by only using Taiwan, ignored the existence of ROC. For example, using Taiwanese government...
@@thornados4969 From wiki. Taiwan Province is a nominal administrative division of the Republic of China (ROC). Its definition has remained part of the Constitution of the Republic of China ... From a legal point of view, Taiwan Province exists as part of the Republic of China even if from an administrative point of view it is not functional as its powers have been transferred to the various counties
china never had command of the full island. They were able to settle on flat coastlines but unable to navigate the mountains. these subtleties are important as leaving them out implies china ever had full control over the island which is historically false.
To put it simply, in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party defeated the Kuomintang, and the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan. Therefore, the Chinese Communist Party established the People's Republic of China in place of the Republic of China in mainland China, and claimed that the island of Taiwan belonged to the People's Republic of China. However, after the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, it did not recognize the legitimacy of the People's Republic of China, and claimed that the mainland of China belonged to the Republic of China. To this day. Another interesting thing is that in 1945, the government of the Republic of China joined the United Nations, but in 1971, the People's Republic of China replaced the permanent seat of the Republic of China in the United Nations, and the United Nations recognized the representative of the government of the People's Republic of China as the sole legal representative of China in the United Nations
those who know Chinese history are easy. For those who don't have knowledge about Chinese history, remind them that there were 2 Germanies before and there are still North and South Korea today.
Republic of China is a regime who is former president Chiang Kai-Shek bring to Taiwan, Taiwan have other name called Formosa and its no under control by CCP, Taiwan is an island country.
Thank you for your video, its very important let more western countries people understand these history. Too many misunderstood now. 非常感谢你用西方世界更能理解的方式解释这段历史，无论中国叫PROC还是ROC先能理解这段历史很重要，目前真的有太多误会了。
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again. It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island. If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
The Republic of China is colloquially known as Taiwan is because Taiwan is the island where the administrative capital of the Republic of China sits. The territory of the Republic of Taiwan also includes the provinces and regions known as Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner and Outer Mongolia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macao, and all of the other provinces within the country including the whole of the South China Sea, Ladakh, and so on. Most countries around the world recognises the Government of the People’s Republic of China that sits in Beijing. Only 14 Pacific island countries and the Vatican recognises the Government that sits in Taipei as the legitimate Government of China.
@@LoC28C Country name refers to the name of the territory as a whole. So Taiwan is the name of the country. ROC is just a name of the government ruling the Taiwan's territory which originated as government of China and ended as government of Taiwan after the end of Chinese civil war in China.
@@thornados4969 Don't imagine your own history. The Chinese Civil War is still going on. It has not officially ended yet. Taiwan is not a country. Nobody in this world officially recognises Taiwan as a country. All Governments and international organisations recognises only 1 China and that Taiwan is a part of China. Only 14 small pacific island nations in this world recognises the Government of the Republic of China. The Rest of the world and all international organisations recognises the Government of Beijing as the legitimate Government of all of China including the island of Taiwan.
@@LoC28C The civil war ended when the communist betrayed and successfully overthrew it's own government ROC in China and replaced it with their own communist party and new government PRC 1949 and most of political refugees went to Taiwan - another territory not belong to China. PRC nullified ROC's government in China including all previous agreements with other countries to define new territories of PRC except illegally claiming Taiwan which has never been controlled by them. Taiwan is recognized worldwide either de-jure and de-facto country with embassies worldwide. Foreigners need a visa or permit to enter Taiwan like any other country. Taiwan now a true democratic government participated by all Taiwanese, a model country for Chinese in China if they want to enjoy political freedom. Historically, ROC originated as government of China and ended as government of Taiwan. China and Taiwan are different lands divided by the strait with two different territories, two different histories, two different people demographics, and two different governments. So, China's claim on Taiwan is baseless and illegal. That's the bottom line.
As bad as it was, PRC was foretold to happen and life under the PRC would be hell. My grandparents prepped in preparation and diplomatic in his dealings with them but unfortunately they still got them. He treated them with kid gloves and still got burnt. Anyone who knew of the prophecy knew to get out but if you knew and still stayed, welp you were warned but you persisted. They played nice in the 1st few years to try to coax people who knew what was up and gfto. Unfortunately people fell for it and didn't think the prophecy would come true and went back. Unfortunately the ancient experts who foretold the ccp were right on the money. They also foretold the pandemic. Sadly no one listened except Obama.
Because the civil war still unfinished the old government of China who defeated flee to Taiwan and remained there until today while the winner the communist established prc in the mainland and off course they claimed taiwan too as this island still under their rival party.
If we want to better understand the Taiwan issue, we must step back and consider the Chinese position. The Chinese always remember that the Cairo conference returned Taiwan to China. They posit that Japan stole Taiwan in 1895. From 1895 to 1945, Japan "occupied" Chinese Taiwan. And in 1945, China victorious against Japan regained possession of its territory, Taiwan. They, our rascally Chinese weasels, forget the clause in the Cairo communiqué which declares that the “three great powers” have no territorial ambition of their own. Article 73 of the United Nations Charter states that colonial possessions taken from the enemy will be subject to UN trusteeship, as was the case for Italian Somalia and Italian Libya. Chiang Kai-shek signed the United Nations Charter a day before the U.S. Navy landed its Chinese KMT army on Japanese Formosa. Chiang Kai-shek knew that he would only have Taiwan under mandate. Since the Napoleonic Wars, occupation no longer means annexation. Ignoring Shimonoseki and San Francisco, China claims to have reclaimed Taiwan in accordance with Cairo and Potsdam when Japan surrendered. But the legal fact remains that Shimonoseki had nullified any future Chinese legal claims to Taiwan. The United States used San Francisco to insulate Taiwan from China's future territorial ambitions. China has no legal rights to Taiwan. Taiwan has not been part of China. Taiwan is not separated from China. Taiwan was once part of Japan. Taiwan is currently separated from Japan due to a carefully concealed American occupation. Why isn't the United States stationing troops in Taiwan to ward off Chinese aggression? Because it's not necessary. The commander-in-chief (president) of the Chinese rebels who fled Chinese Kinmen and Matsu to Taipei is also the governor of Taiwan (and Penghu), an American protectorate. This confusing arrangement conceals the continued US occupation of Taiwan, while accommodating a common weapon of Chinese on both sides of the Strait, namely Chinese nationalist sensitivities. The Chinese rebel territories of Kinmen and Matsu, as well as the hidden rebel commander-in-chief (president) in Taipei have always been a nuisance that China loves to pin down. China, steeped in feigned anger, complains and threatens non-Chinese Taiwan, while ignoring the Chinese rebel territories of Kinmen and Matsu. According to the United States-Japan Defense Treaty, after the restoration of Japan's national sovereignty on April 28, 1952, the United States continued to station troops in Japan as if Japan remained territory occupied by the victorious enemy. China's extreme but feigned anger and threatening attitude toward Taiwan and Penghu justifies keeping US Marines in Okinawa in the eventuality of a Taiwan contingency. In turn, the continued presence of US Marines on Okinawa further angers China's staged anger and exposes Japan to the Chinese threat. The United States is using Taiwan to manipulate China's nationalist sensitivities to justify the continued presence of American forces in Okinawa, while further angering China, thus inciting it to threaten not only Taiwan but Okinawa as well. thus further justifying the maintenance of American forces in Japan. The emcee steps out of the limelight, leaving the circus stage to the caged dragon and the trainer who taunts the dragon with Taiwanese deer meat. The audience is tense and stamping with enthusiasm. Every time the dragon throws a tantrum, its Chinese nationalist sensitivities are rewarded. The show continues and the master of ceremonies sniggers, delighted, backstage. Everyone misses the point. The American military-industrial complex is rubbing its hands. The Chinese on both sides of the Strait are partnering with the United States to keep both Japan and the real, legal Taiwan separated, humiliated and downtrodden under their cumulated influences. Owing to Taiwan's survival issues, Taiwan must call itself "Taiwan" and normalize its situation under the United States' Taiwan Relations Act. Owing to Taiwan's survival issues, normalizing Taiwan means having to accept the legal fact that Taiwan has been a U.S. trust territory since April 28, 1952. The legal basis of the American “Taiwan Relations Act” is Article II(b) of the Treaty of San Francisco. It is no coincidence that Chinese parties on both sides of the Taiwan Strait want to ignore this basis of Taiwan's "undetermined international status." For the sake of its survival, Taiwan must respect the legal implications of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. Legally speaking, Taiwan is the “Taiwan-Penghu Independent Customs Territory,” which was once a Japanese territory but is now a U.S. trust territory, hidden under the rags of Chinese nationalism. Since the entry into force of the San Francisco Peace Treaty which separated Taiwan from Japan, Taiwan has formed a non-Chinese independent customs territory (獨立關稅區) under the "General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade" ( GATT, 1947-94) renewed under the aegis of the World Trade Organization (WTO). The Chinese Kinmen and Matsu Separate Customs Territory (金馬個別關稅領域), although separate from China, belongs to China. This is China's knee pressing on the neck of Taiwan and Penghu. To breathe freely, Taiwan must break away from its moorings (Kinmen and Matsu, China) along the Chinese coast. Everything that is considered “Chinese” (中華) in Taiwan becomes “Taiwanese” and one must be prepared to sacrifice everything for Taiwan. If the American model of nation-building is to be applicable to Taiwan, the "Chinese" political element must be eliminated from Taiwan. Once the decoupling of "American Taiwan" from China is completed, the international status of "American Taiwan" will change from the US Mandate of Taiwan to the US Protectorate of Taiwan (台灣國) or the US Protectorate of Takasago(高砂國).
I know also reason that today china is PEOPLE republic china cause of soviet revolution in republic china it was stuck in island named TAIWAN it fall at people republic and mongolia
The Republic of China was founded in 1912. It is the real China, the free and democratic China. Taiwan is part of the Republic of China. Taiwan did not "name" it self the Republic of China. The assumption that Taiwan and China are complete different is the root cause of such confusion, based on the lack of knowledge of basic Chinese history since the 20th century. It is very simple, the government of of the Republic of China retreated to the island of Taiwan after the defeat in the Chinese civil war and continued till this day. So it's not Taiwan became the Republic of China or named itself the Republic of China. Taiwan returned to ROC rule after Japan's defeat in WW2 in 1945. Since then Taiwan has been under the legal jurisdiction of the Republic of China, continuously until now. The de facto jurisdiction of the Republic of China has been reduced to Taiwan and some surrounding and outlying islands, but it continued its legitimate rules onto this day. So in the end, Taiwan is part of the real China, not the Communist mainland China, but the free and democratic China.
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Taiwan is a part of China and it is China. The Chinese took it from the aborigines in the 1600s and made it China. Like USA took Hawaii and Japan took Okinawa. Same process different location.
If Taiwan is called the Republic of China, then what is the position of Mainland China? Can you blame China for the threats they are throwing? Has the Taiwanese seriously considered this because there are a lot of overseas chinese who are also going to be confused. Imagine overseas chinese will have to explain which China their ancestors come from. 😒 So this is also the very reason why Taiwan cannot be in an international event? In the video, how is it there is no mentioned about the Cairo Declaration that proclaimed Taiwan and the Penghu Archipelago returned to China in 1943. This is actually the most important reason that Taiwan cannot be Sovereign. Where is the integrity of your post?
PRC is the government of China and ROC is the government of Taiwan. ROC was the government of China 1911-1949 and after losing to communist PRC, ROC escaped/saved by Taiwan to become the proxy occupying government of Taiwan residents after the Japanese colonial government left Taiwan. The Cairo declaration had no bearing after the 1952 Japan peace treaty.
@@kaichang2059 Because Korea and Taiwan were territories of Japan and China was an outsider. Both Korea and Taiwan technically became independent from Japan after the 1952 treaty. So Korea and Taiwan were non of China's business.
@@thornados4969 Republic of Korea and North Korea were founded in 1948, Taiwan province government was founded in 1947, Japan and the whole world didn’t give any opposition, since both Korea and China didn’t sign the 1952 treaty, the treaty is totally nonsense on these territories. If you says to a Korean his county’s independent day started on 1952 he will spit on you. Russia and Japan is still under war legally and their land dispute is still on because of no peace treaty.
Yes u can be as real as it can be. Earn the hearts of the Chinese people if u r seriously a competent leadee without doing those nonsense dirty tricks. Chinese people on mainland is still waiting and counting on u to "make china great again". But time is ticking u better hurry up.
I know mainland China was called the Republic of China. And now it's called People's Republic of China. Can you educate me?😀✌️
Thank you for your wonderful question. in 1949, after the Communist Party defeated the Nationalist Party in mainland China, Communist Party leader Mao Zedong declared China as "中華人民共和國", which directly translates to "The People's Republic of China".
@@regalcompendium so the Republic of China is defeated by the People's Republic of China. There's an old saying in the west, if you can't defeat 'em, join 'em😀✌️
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again.
It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island.
If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
@@katrinoy1
Please Answer:
When ROC takes over “All” of China....
Will the ROC want a “Weak”; “Fragmented” China..?
...Ie allow other provinces/places to Succeed from China...? such as Tibet/Xinjiang/Hong Kong/etc...?
OR Will ROC enforce a “United”; One Strong China...?
(Regardless of what ~1billion Chinese mainlanders feel about the CCP;....
....They absolutely Do Not Want to return to the days of “Foreign Manueaption and Humiliation..!)
...If ROC wants a United/Strong China.... Collision is Guaranteed to Occur with USA/India/Japan/etc...!
It is called China before KMT came to power, then it is named as " ROC". After KMT was defeated by CCP at end of a civil war, its name changed to "PRC" under Communist ruled.
If my knowledge is not outdated, ROC still claim PRC territory it’s territory constitutionally, and do not recognize PRC as an independent country. And PRC do the same on Taiwan island area and ROC. So technically, there is only one China but two government that still under civil war. So unless ROC amend its constitution, it’s unlawful to call Taiwan a country in any means.
Somewhat outdated. The DPP have won in the previous presidential elections and they are the ones pushing to change the One-China-Policy into a Two China Policy.
RoC is just the name of the country, the political party that's pushing for the One China Policy is the KMT and now they have been unseated.
The constitutional changes is only a matter of time, and that's sort of why we see China do some very rash actions lately.
@@madensmith7014 I do realize they won the new election, but no one dare to touch the constitution yet. And most people believe touching the constitution will lead to war, and people are losing fate on the idea that America will actually fully support Taiwan militarily. And I actually believe that White House will not allow any party trying to change the constitution. And as soon the roc constitution is not change. There’s still one China.
@@madensmith7014 I believe keeping Taiwan at this blurry stage is the best leverage for Taiwan and the US on PRC. And that’s why DDP is playing around the one China policy trying to make some noise but will never actually going to address the core issue of “independence”
@@madensmith7014 Tsi and DDP have led ROC for like six years now. And the biggest noise they could make is changing the cover of their passport. People wants to ignore the fact that the independence of Taiwan is never decided by anyone in Taiwan. It’s always only a part of the Beijing-DC wrestling.
ROC+ PRC = One China. UN Resolution 2758 states that there is only one China in the world, and the PRC represents China
As long as you talk about Taiwan independence 😂, it means that the facts are >>>
(The Republic of China is part of China, so it needs independence)
Independence refers to the governing government of a locality, which obtains sovereignty from its suzerainty and becomes an independent state
#中華民國不是中國的一部分為什麼需要獨立?
The fact is that Taiwan is part of China
#已經是國家了還要再獨立?
The fact is that Taiwan is part of China
Taiwan is not called Republic of China.Taiwan is the name of an island. Republic of China is a country name that this island belongs to.
The same as, you can’t say why California is called USA.
my country is called the Republic of China, not the Republic of Taiwan
Even Kindergarten students in Taiwan know this.
When the United States of America is divided into the Republic of America and the United States of America, and the territory of the United States of America is only California, perhaps California can be called the United States of America. But Kinmen of Republic of China is belone Fujian province not Taiwan Island.😀
@@峰-w7i Know your history. The ROC name was adopted by the Chinese government from China fleeing from the communists after the KMT army lost the battle with communist peasant rebels. Taiwan was initially the safe refuge of ROC - Thanks for the US support - the occupier of Japanese territories after the Japanese surrender in 1945. While in China, ROC's government did not include Taiwan as it was part of Japan until the 1951 peace treaty.
@@herosio270 American history is totally different with Taiwan history. Taiwan had no civil war. There war no communist rebellion. The white terror in Taiwan in 1947 was just from ordinary Taiwanese who were not happy with the then KMT people being incompetent and corrupt ruling the population with military dictatorship.
Easy fact: Taiwan was the RoC. CCP defeated KMT in 1949 and replaced RoC in mainland China with PRC. RoC government fled to Taiwan island and continued to exist till this day. So yeah, there are in fact two China! Or at least two Chinese governments. Both of which are claiming the sovereignty over the mainland China as well as Taiwan island.
Not two China as territory. Two governments representing China. But it was over. Facts after the civil war ended in 1949. PRC is the government of China country and ROC is the government of Taiwan country. The country is a land territory and it is represented by the name of government ruling the country. That's TAIWAN is the country ruled by ROC government today. Imagine the country GREECE is ruled by the government of Hellenic Republic. Some people don't know the government but it is easier to remember the country's territorial name.
@@thornados4969 the civil war never officially ended.
And as per UN resolution 2758, passed on 25 October 1971, recognized the People's Republic of China (PRC) as "the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations" and removed "the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek" (referring to Republic of China (ROC)) from the United Nations.
The following year, the US (then the sole global hegemon) further afirms this through the Shanghai communique of 1972. This is an excerpt from that communique from page 815, taken from the Office of Historian US government website:
"the Government of the People’s Republic of China is the sole legal government of China; Taiwan is a province of China which has long been returned to the motherland; the liberation of Taiwan is China’s internal affair in which no other country has the right to interfere; and all U.S. forces and military installations must be withdrawn from Taiwan. The Chinese Government firmly opposes any activities which aim at the creation of “one China, one Taiwan,” “one China, two governments,” “two Chinas,” and “independent Taiwan” or advocate that “the status of Taiwan remains to be determined.”
The U.S. side declared: The United States acknowledges that all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China. The United States Government does not challenge that position. It reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves. With this prospect in mind, it affirms the ultimate objective of the withdrawal of all U.S. forces and military installations from Taiwan. In the meantime, it will progressively reduce its forces and military installations on Taiwan as the tension in the area diminishes."
Technically, they are still one country.
Finally, some one with a brain 🧠 🥇 👏👏👏
@@thornados4969 Taiwan is part of China. It doesn't change the fact, whether the KMT party or the communist party rule China.
Exactly, just like there are 2 Koreas both claiming the whole of the Korea peninsula, but the territory and population difference is massive in this case, so the PRC has the leverage to dictate its terms to the world, and be recognized as ‘China’ by most of the other countries.
I am a citizen of the Republic of China 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
do you consider yourself taiwanese or like chinese?
@@Mysteryboy0007 According to the most recent poll taken by adults in Taiwan, 67% identify as primarily Taiwanese, 28% identify as both Taiwanese & Chinese, and only 3% identify as primarily Chinese
Taiwan didn't "name itself" the ROC. It IS the ROC, or what is left of it.
One time a person from school asked me about something he learned in class, “did you know that Taiwan is officially called The Republic of China”, I felt like correcting him on the omission of the non-Taiwanese parts of ROC but didn’t and said “yes”. He asked, “isn’t that weird, how they randomly think they are Chinese for some reason.” I wanted to explain most Taiwanese today don’t actually think that, and those who do don’t do it “randomly”. but I knew it would take forever to explain so I just shrugged.
It was always amazing to me how a seemingly simple situation can seem so complex and convoluted to an outsider. They understand there were and are other countries divided into two because of ideologies: north and south Koreas, East and West Germanys, north and south Vietnams but when it comes to the two Chinas they suddenly can’t wrap their minds around it.
@@jw1731 It's really a matter of perception. Imagine if all of Germany west of the Oder was given to the FRG after WWII, and East Prussia became the GDR instead of being split up between Poland and Russia. It would be the same situation, and we'd have videos asking "why does Prussia officially call itself the German Democratic Republic?"
Currently ROC has two provinces: Taiwan (the island) and Fujian. So ROC is a country name whereas Taiwan is a province name.
Kimen Island & Mazu Island were over looked. they belone Hokkian(fujian) province.
@@herosio270 Before 1952, Formosa (Taiwan island), Pescadores (including Kinmen and Matzu islands were officially parts of Japan empire. The Empire of Japan captured Kinmen in 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War. After 1952, Japan surrendered its rights - Taiwan territories theoretically became independent but the Americans allowed the exiled government authority of ROC to continue the occupation until it became a fully free democratic country represented by Taiwanese people. ROC lost control of China since 1949.
@@thornados4969 The Japs ruled Kinmen Island for 8 years (just 1937-1945, as too many area of China ,even almost half of China was ruled by Japs at this times) ， and Kinmen Island never ever be a part of Taiwan, it is always a part of Fujian Province. would you take a look about map and history of Kinmen? Do you know where is Kinmen?
@@herosio270 The Japs captured Kinmen to include it as part of Taiwan's colonial government. Only the Japs were able to fully control the entire island and the little islands now being a free country Taiwan as a whole. Before Japan, the Chinese dynasty never actually controlled Taiwan. The Fujian local government merely monitored the Chinese emigrants and settlers in different locations in eastern part. The central and western part of Taiwan island were controlled by the Taiwanese aborigines.
@@thornados4969他媽的，我的國家叫中華民國，不是台灣共和國
FUCK, my country is called the Republic of China, not the Republic of Taiwan
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Internationally recognized (in World War II, the Republic of China was a representative regime of China, so the Republic of China is China, this is known to everyone)
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If "the Republic of China is not part of China" can directly create a state, why independence, you are stupid
Independence refers to the governing government of a locality, which obtains sovereignty from its suzerainty and becomes an independent
If I were The President of the Republic of China
Whoever wants to become the Republic of Taiwan, I will revoke his ROC citizenship
Actually, there is a significant difference between Taiwan and ROC. Today’s ROC includes 2 Provinces + 6 Special municipalities. Taiwan is technically a province name under ROC, while the other one is Fuchien. If we talk about Taiwan Province, then that’s the Taiwan Island minus the 6 cities and plus some small islands near Taiwan Island.
yes you are right
@@becritical7476 The non-functional unrealistic provinces were abolished in 2018. Taiwan is now a unitary state with 22 subnational divisions with local government.
yea, this video is very misleading, the word "taiwan" is never the name of any country or political entity, it's simply the geographical name of this island.
this video makes it sound like the country taiwan changed the name to ROC to avoid war with china. but it's wrong.
@@thornados4969 right, but it’s still there, still exist, until one day it is erased from the law.
About the provinces, the issue is to change from ‘De Facto’ to ‘De Jure’. They are gone, but not in the laws.
Also, another interesting fact is that Hui Muslim in mainland China played an important role in Kuomintang Islamic insurgency in 1950s largely located in northern western part of mainland China. Hui Muslim insurgents were veterans of the Soviet invasion of Xinjiang, Sino-Tibetan War, the Second Sino-Japanese War, Ili Rebellion, and the Chinese Civil War.
Both China and Taiwan sit together and solve every problem with them peacefully and merge together as brothers and sisters peacefully.
China already said, no discussions
Communist China wants to annihilate the republic of China. There's no such thing as a peaceful resolution or unification with them
@@1stPrinciples455 nonsense, look at 2015 Xi Jinping and Ma Yingjiu did met on Singapore and discussed on improving Cross-Straits Relations
In the current situation, it is the Taiwanese politician decides to not talk with the mainland.
The KMT wants to talk with mainland, but gets voted out by the Taiwanese.
The DPP didn't want to talk the mainland, but making claims that make straits relation soured in these few years.
Mainland said they willing to talk under the pretext of 1 Country 2 Systems.
There are no ideal situation who they can both talk without compromising to the actual condition. At least to my common sense, it is the Taiwanese leadership that refuses to talk under the DPP government.
The KMT sends their official to mainland occasionally, but the DPP?
DPP didn't appeared once on conference face to face with the mainland officials. They don't even show their courtesy on resolving the Cross Straits issue.
Mainland's stance was clear since the end of Civil War, and throughout they have in fact, talked and sat down with KMT before.
Show me one example of Taiwan's DPP officials if they ever met face to face with the mainland. None.
@@䨝雨 @@䨝雨 DPP will talk to Mainland only if mainland respect democracy. Mainland now is a bulldozer and has said No Discussions, only obey and become a hk . Despite this, mainland can still say it wants talks. Talk, what kind of talk is the key issue. TW does not belong to ccp. This is a fact already the world knows . CCP can just invade if you want TW. No one is stopping CCP. TW was under Japan rule before PRC formed. When civil war breaks, a country changes territorial ownership and leaders. ROC govt went to TW and established dominance there and a few years later in 1952, Japan officially gave TW to ROC gov. This is all document facts
@@䨝雨 absolutely correct. china always has been the one goes like "hey... let's just sit down and talk". while taiwan is like "NOPE, i just like to kiss US ass and trigger you instead, cuz you know.... i'm an american dog oof oof"
The Republic of China 🇹🇼 is an independent country and Taiwan is the last province of the ROC government. I support the Kuomintang and in my opinion the ROC should have a second name called the “White China” while the PRC should be known as “Red China”. I personally don’t like the current President of the ROC and oppose the so called “Taiwan independence movement”. Rebellious and provocative I believe there should be a new status quo, “two chinas and two systems”.
Personally the ROC should have remained as a one party state and adopted a tougher stance against the PRC. Hopefully I can travel to the ROC and perhaps visit the Chang Kai Shek memorial.
Republic of China 🇹🇼 is 「free China」
This is literally Chang ya chung's point of view: 一中三宪
现实不会如此，统一的日子越来越近了
Strictly speaking, Taiwan is only a province of the Republic of China. The scope of the laws of the Republic of China encompasses the whole of China
Thank you for uploading this. Hopefully more westerner watch this they will understand complicated history between two sides and even 2nd civil war was more complicated than just civil war it was basically a small cold war and it is not just independence or not thing.
谢谢你让西方国家人民知道中国历史和试着揭开误解。 其实两边情况是真的很复杂。
Thank you so much! This is the reason I started this channel. I live in North America and there is so much misunderstanding of China / Taiwan. I hope my videos could help better understanding China/Taiwan.
天哪說的非常詳細，那麼好的影片怎麼沒人知道，已訂閱，我❤️🇹🇼
衷心感謝你的支持
The island of Taiwan - a.k.a. Taiwan province - is called the Republic of China because of the Chinese civil war, which technically had never ended.
There is only a sort of temporary pause, amicable ceasefire of sorts.
This civil war was fought between the KMT party and the CCP party of China between the 30's to 50's - with the bulk of the fighting having reached its climax and ending in the late 40's. So give or take around a decade of fighting between the 2 parties while World War 2 occurred in the background.
Upon the KMT's defeat in the civil war, the right-wing branch of the KMT party (Led by General Shek) fled to Taiwan province and took refuge there ever since - setting up the Republic of China's government on the island.
Meanwhile, the CCP on the mainland began a new era - so called New China - with the proclamation of the birth of the PRC - People's Republic of China.
Overtime, the UN switched their recognition of China from the ROC to the PRC - with the PRC having the global backing in representing Chinese people and the Chinese nation on the world stage.
This move by the UN put the ROC in a catch .22 situation.
If the ROC decided to retake the mainland by force - which they can not do without incredible military support from foreign forces - the ROC government would be restored back to its original and historical seat of power.
If the ROC does not decide to retake the mainland - the ROC's identity would erode and be replaced by what we would call Taiwan today - it's current popular identity amongst the majority of the island's inhabitants. However, eventually though this Taiwan identity would not last and would be reunified under a common Chinese identity.
The tricky party here is, throughout most of the island's history - and even more so the ROC banner - ROC mostly was representative of the KMT party alone. This is because the KMT was an authoritarian party when she ruled the mainland and also when she fled and set up government on the island of Taiwan until around the late 80's when the ROC became a Democracy and allowed other parties to run for elections.
Ultimately, the master plan the CCP has for China, for the island of Taiwan and for Chinese people's future is unity and homogeny being first and foremost. This does not come as a surprise because if anyone knows two licks of modern Chinese history, they would know that China had been through deep fragmentation in all aspects of her nation - socially, economically and militarily - within the last 150 - 200 years.
The thing about global geopolitical brinksmanship and the often too common divide and conquer employed by various powers is divide your enemy while maintaining your own solidarity.
USA right now is trying to divide China - just as the Chinese CPC is trying to divide the KMT party - with Pro CCP KMT vs. Anti CCP KMT. The DPP are all very unified - heavy worshippers of money and Japan.
In conclusion though, I do not think the KMT and CCP will ever fight again. The ROC will eventually retire and all non-CCP parties will work with the CCP in moving China forward.
Democracy or not - the main point would be unity in strength.
You are daydreaming. Taiwan is not part of China since 1895 treaty with Japan kicking Qing forces out of Taiwan in perpetuity. Perpetuity means out indefinitely, forever, no end that China should be out of Taiwan. That's the 1895 Japan-China treaty. So there is no return. In 1951 Japan peace treaty, Japan surrendered the rights of sovereignty meaning Korea and Japan were free since 1951 for self-determination by the own people. The US provided support in Taiwan Relation Act 1979 against aggressor as expected from Chinese threats. Those are facts. Note , ROC vs PRC was about representation to rule China and Taiwan is out of the competition because it was part of Japan.
@@thornados4969 Japan lost WW2, all Japanese stolen territories were surrendered back to the Chinese people.
Your history is wrong! :)
@@Heartadia Japan did not stole anything. Everything was signed by treaties in 1895 and 1951. You copied the fake communist propaganda who has not participated in any of the event.
@@thornados4969 Unequal war treaties, of which became neutralized and all stolen lands returned to the Chinese after WW2.
You can keep up the lies but the truth never dies.
Nippon Banzai :O!
@@Heartadia Treaties are legal. History speaks itself that Taiwan doesn't belong to China. Communist regime claim on Taiwan is without basis and illegal. China should respect the people rights and stop disturbing peace in the region. Taiwan is not part of China for over hundred years. That is a fact.
Only if Sun Yat-sen lived a little longer, this split may not have happened. I read he wanted to include the communists in the government. Both of his successors just weren't as compassionate.
In the nutshell:
1. Mainland China(A piece of big land consist of China Proper, Manchuria, Tibet, Inner Mongolia and Xinjiang), Macau, Hong Kong and Taiwan belongs to a nation called "CHINA".
2. People's Republic of China is the official name of the government that formally established in Beijing during 1949 by Mao Ze Dong now controls the Mainland and a portion of Spratly Islands. Macau and Hong Kong are technically independent but officially part of PRC special administrative region. This is the government that currently represents China in the UN security council.
3. Republic of China is the official name of the government that formally established in Canton during 1925 by Sun Yat Sen and Chiang Kai Shek but traces it's origins as Nanjing Provisional Government of the Republic of China in 1912. Currently, it controls the Island of Taiwan, Kinmen, Matsu, Penghu, a portion of Spratly Islands and Taiping Island/Itu Apa Island ( A strategically important island roughly the size of Singapore.) This is the government that represents China in the UN security council from 1945 until 1971.
4. So, China is a nation that has four governments, two of them have a huge proper military force with nuclear weapons manufacturing capabilities. The other two are actually autonomous region with it's own laws and institution.
Your nutshell have many flaws. When ROC was formed in China, the territories of Taiwan main and other smaller islands were part of Japan since 1895 Qing-Japan treaty until 1951 Japan peace treaty. In 1949, After losing control of China the ROC government officials along with millions of Chinese refugees fled from China to seek safe refuge to Taiwan with the approval of the US - the lead occupier of Japanese territories including Taiwan after the Japanese surrender in 1945. So, in summary the competition of ROC and PRC was about representation of China only (Taiwan was not part China). ROC remained to be the occupier as government authority of Taiwan by refugee officials of ROC. The democracy in Taiwan after 1987 lifting of Martial law had allowed participation of Taiwan-born residents until full democratization of ROC government today which is elected by and for the Taiwanese. Taiwan is collective name of the territorial country "free areas" under the ROC government. Because of China's abuse of UN permanent seat power, the application of ROC restoration of UN membership representing Taiwan country had been out rightly rejected for at least 11 times.
@@thornados4969 TW was under Japan occupatiom until 1952 where Japan returned it to ROC and not PRC formed in 1949, years before tw was released by japan. So since that day, plus 50 years before, TW has not been under PRC or gov of mainland China.
@@1stPrinciples455 So China's PRC claim on Taiwan is baseless and illegal. BTW, Japan did not transfer the sovereignty to China. Using his ROC official, Gen. Chiang was only tasked by the US as occupier of Japanese territories after WWII.
@@thornados4969 No country is permanent. No country has rights to own any territory permanently eternally. A country is purely an Artificial Construct which are all not original owners of the territory. Before the Chinese, other humans owned the territory. All it takes is a war for territories to change ownership. Humans remain at this stage of civilisation which started thousands of years ago. To reiterate, history does not secure ownership of a territory. A war today determines who owns what. War is war. Period.
But if war breaks out between the 2 countries, i predict the chinese of Taiwan will capitulate in exchange for being spared their lives this is regardless if USA helps or not. Chinese are Chinese. They are very good at self preservation. Self is Above Sovereignty, Country. The taiwanese have a saying 民主不能當飯吃, which is literally translated as democracy is not what you need which is money. Taiwan is internally split into pro china and pro independence camps. Most are partisan and vote based on hatred. Its a failed democracy and not surprisingly as democracy is not natural to chinese which is why taiwan has failed becos chinese people are aping democracy. KMT is likely to cooperate with CCP and KMT chief will be the next Kerry Lam. History has proven the KMT will cooperate with CCP and get played out. Betrayal happens all the time in chinese history. They call this, 吃里趴外，里應外和，漢奸，走狗，出賣。Chinese dna is 人不為己，天誅地滅。We the Chinese are All about the Self above All Else including the country. Will do whatever to preserve the self. Democracy has no economic value to me.
Above are my prophecies for Taiwan. See if i am right.
It does not matter ROC once ruled China. What matters when it comes to ownership of a land is who occupies it now, and its usually by military force. For example, the aborigines came before the chinese to tw. So one can say the aborigines own tw. But so what? The human construct of Country is whoever occupies a land now owns the land. ROC govt escaped to TW and OCCUPIED TW. There and then TW belonged to ROC govt led by CKS. PRC only occupied Mainland. Whether ROC previously owns TW or not is not material. War created this change. Japan returned TW to ROC even though PRC was forned before this handover. Legally, TW is under ROC and not PRC. Korea can be called China too if China bonbs Korea. So, a name is merely a human construct and territory names and ownerships can change at ANY TIME. Just invade and occupy. You only own a country until the day a war breaks where territories change hands. Is there any more i need to say ?
谢谢你用国际社会听得懂的语言介绍复杂的台湾历史和现状。不过“中国”的概念不仅仅是个民族国家的政治概念，对于华人来说，它更多的是个文化的概念。天下只能有一个中华，世上只能有一个中国。
十分感謝您的支持. 我製作這個頻道是因為太多外國人對中國和台灣有很多的誤解. 我希望他們看完這個視頻可以對一中政策多一些瞭解.
这里面介绍所谓的历史 纯粹胡说八道
@@xiaorenhuangdi 有没有一种可能性是你学的历史才是胡说八道？
@@regalcompendium 名存實亡的中華“冥”國在這裡刷存在感，笑死。。。你也不想想孫中山是哪的人，蔣介石是哪裡來的。還不都是大陸的人。只不過你蔣爹內戰失敗只能跑到臺灣嘍，真是搞笑，如果你蔣爹跑到海南，你們照樣可以說是中華冥國，只不過是一個藉口罷了。總的來說，你們自稱中華冥國，無非就是為了那最後的倔強，臺灣根本就不是中華冥國，真正的中華冥國是整個中華秋海棠，而不是你這巴掌大的👻島。說的這麼偉大，怎麼還跟洪都拉斯“斷交”呀？只有13個“邦交國”了喲。。。哈哈哈，怎麼不進聯合國啊？奧運會怎麼用不了青天白日滿地紅旗啊？僞政權roc😂😂😂
@@xiaorenhuangdi 哪里胡说八道？你一条一条列出来，我们逐一核对一下
you know nothing about history about TAINWAN. Obviously, it was ancient Chinese people who discovered this island, neither Portuguese, Spanish nor Dutch. From 3 century AD, many Chinese has begun to move to this island. In ancient chinese history book, Taiwan had already attained its names, Yizhou, Dongshi or Liuqiu. In the period of Three Kingdoms in China, the local court of Wu had gained it territory of Taiwan, one thousand and three hundred years before westerner's arrival. Since then, most Chinese Dynasties continued their rules in Taiwan. And that's the reason why nearly 98 precent of its population is Chinese descendant. Spanish, Portuguese and Japanese are all intruders.
In Dutch phonology, J is pronounced similar to i or y. So Taijowan, also spelt as Taiyowan and many other ways by the Dutch, was pronounced more like Taiyowan. Koxinga was never called Zheng Chenggong. His name was Tēnn Sim (鄭森), or Zheng Shen in Mandarin Chinese. He was given the Ming royal name along with the name "Success" by the Southern Ming Emperor Rongwu, making his royal given name Tsu Sîng-kong (朱成功), or Zhu Chenggong in Mandarin Chinese. He would have avoided mentioning the royal name itself, and referred to himself as Chenggong of the Royal Last Name, in Hokkien it would be Kok-sìng Sîng-kong (國姓成功). His followers and other Ming supporters would have avoided mentioning his name, and call him Lord with the Royal Last Name, in Hokkien it would be Kok-sìng-iâ (國姓爺). That is how we got Koxinga in Spanish and Dutch. It was the Manchus who wanted to downplay Tsu Sîng-kong's importance and forbade addressing him with the Ming royal last name. Since the Qing dynasty is no more, I find it ridiculous that historians would continue to refer to him using a mangled and inaccurate name. He should either be Tēnn Sim, Zheng Shen, Tsu Sîng-kong, Zhu Chenggong, or Tagawa Fukumatsu, since he was born to a Japanese mother in Japan, and lived there without his father until 7 or 8 years old.
The last Ming emperor wasn't overthrown by the Qing, he was overthrown by the peasant revolt leader Li Zicheng.
In China he is mainly famous as Zheng Chenggong,but we know it’s a mixed name
@@Esquelan He was one of many foreign occupiers of Taiwan.
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@@indiasuperclean6969 you sarcasm is beyond the roof.
@@indiasuperclean6969 Let's hope India will be even more prosperous with equality and equity for all its residents in the near future.
You forgot to mention the important UN resolution 2578 and the 3 communiqués which describe very well the status quo of Taiwan/ROC today and why China is on the right side if it claims that there is only one legitimate China.
I hope this will educate the people from west, so you don’t just simply support Taiwan’s independence, its a very complicated issue, we as Chinese still seek a peaceful way to reunify China. Think about Hawaii or California to USA or Northern Ireland to UK or Catalonia to Spain, will those countries allow these regions to be independent? It’s never about democracy or freedom, it’s about interests to all different parties, so don’t just judge this if you don’t have the knowledge.
My motherland is the Republic of China🇹🇼.
I am a Chinese and a Taiwanese.
The Republic of China 🇹🇼 is the first Chinese and the first Asian country with actual democracy, freedom and human rights, and it ranks eighth in the current international democracy and freedom (first in Asia).
We Have perfect medical care and communication channels with the government, so that our rights will not be persecuted.
However, since the founding of the Republic of China 🇹🇼 in 1912, the events in the country have been ups and downs. In the end, only Taiwan Island、Penghu Islands、Kinmen Islands、and Matsu Islands are left. However, we will not surrender to the People's Republic of China 🇨🇳.
We are like the “Eastern Roman Empire” , even if only There is a small territory left, we will not just surrender, even if we are killed in battle, everyone will enter the Martyrs' Shrine together.
I know that the 1911 established Republic of China still exist now located to Taiwan 🇹🇼
It's the other way around - why ROC named themselves Taiwan.
感谢你用英语科普两岸的关系，因为大部分西方国家并不了解情况，因为西方势力的介入，反而增加了两岸兵凶战危的可能性，还是希望两岸的中国人可以寻求一个和平的方式来解决这个历史遗留问题
衷心感謝您的支持. 我創作這個頻道就是因為我現在住在西方裡，我經常會聽到周圍的外國人對中國和台灣有很大的誤解. 我希望我的視頻可以幫他們瞭解中國台灣關係多一些.
No matter u agreed Republic of China or People’s republic of China, there’s only one China in the world, but the current problem is many people in Republic of China (Taiwan) think they’re not belong to China anymore, Taiwan should be an independent country. Imagine if US government went to Hawaii, and mainland US territory belong to another American government, and Hawaiian think they’re not belong to US anymore after a few decades.
It is a lofty mission and a common aspiration of all Chinese people, including the Taiwan compatriots, to put an end to the cleavage between the two sides of the Taiwan Straits and realize the reunification of the motherland.
This is probably by far the most objective video I have ever watched about the Taiwan-China issue.
Although the author clearly has no intention of misleading the audience (like most English creators or the online army from the Democratic Progressive Party), the facts presented in the video are not balanced enough. E.g., the author failed to tell the voting rate of the IOC vote, which is important for interpreting the result. Also, the IOC vote was more than a decade ago, and things have changed a lot since then (no matter what the reasons are).
Thank you so much for your kind words and constructive feedback. This sincerely means a lot to me. I try my absolute best to keep my videos as objective as possible; but like you said, I may need to work harder at balancing both sides. I will on this for future videos.
@@regalcompendium Thank you for your reply. Meanwhile, I hope you do not feel offended by what I wrote below.
I personally think most (if not all) videos on the Taiwan-China dispute did not really touch a few core incidents, which were initiated/happened under Lee Teng-hui's rule, e.g.
1) The foreign policy reform
(reference: "Taiwan's foreign relations under Lee Teng-Hui's rule" by Wang, T Y, American Asian Review);
2) Qiandao Lake incident
(zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E5%8D%83%E5%B2%9B%E6%B9%96%E4%BA%8B%E4%BB%B6 );
3) Last but not least - the education reform
(zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/%E8%87%BA%E7%81%A3%E6%95%99%E8%82%B2%E6%94%B9%E9%9D%A9 )
These are no less important than the Wild Lily student movement, the Taipei mayoral election in 1994 and the presidential election in 2000. They shaped people's minds, which become the driving force of the Sunflower movement many years later.
The narratives about Taiwan's public opinion towards independence generally fall into two categories: spontaneous nativism or the longing for freedom and democracy. However, too many historical facts in the 1990s, the decade after Chiang Ching-kuo's death, have been concealed.
The 'Republic of China' is a name adopted by KMT during its ruled in China and Taiwan. After DPP became ruling party inside Taiwan, they decided to drop it from the front cover of Taiwanese's passport to reduce confusion among foreign custom officers.
The name is still Republic of China, Taiwan is the name of the island. It is like referring to the United States of America as "America". The name of the country has nit changed regardless of DPP posturing.
The DDP dropping the English Name "Republic of China" from the passport cover caused a lot of backlash in mainland China. Numerous political commentators believe this was the DDP's primarily reason for the passport cover redesign (not because of helping foreign custom agents). This video was getting long so I had removed this part from the video.
@@regalcompendium It causes much confusion in many western countries' government. Many take ROC as the same 'nation' as PRC even with Taiwan printed below.
@@bowlampar I live in the West and I am come across many people who have very limited knowledge about Asia. This is why I am creating this channel. I really appreciate yours and everyone's feedback as it helps me going forward.
@@regalcompendium Asia is a complex region of long history fill with many kingdoms and rulers, it's no doubt can be very confusing to many including me.
native people in taiwan.. you usually find those people in highland in northern part in the philippines.
taiwan n mainland were connected
natives in taiwansouthchina n beringstraitnorthchina got same dna as those in australia, newzealand, americas, n all islands - so - whole pacific n half atlantic belong to china - so - return all to china with reparation n all afro latino euro indian ... immigrate back home to africa europe india ...
they hatecrime racist witch hunt discriminate the chinese n even make the one n only law against a race to date for the chinese
"go back to china" usa is on china's soil - hehehe
@@bobevans9996 🤡
Because Taiwan is China more then Hawaii is American
China governed Taiwan is probably older and longer than the existence of US.
The official name has always been "Republic of China" (ROC).
It's just that since the Communists took over mainland China in 1949 and formed the People's Republic (PRC), Taiwan is about the only part of the ROC that's left, in addition to a few small outlying islands.
I have read from several sources the comment that China has never ruled Taiwan. Can you please clarify whether this comment is accurate.
Thanks for your interest in Sino History. During the Qing Dynasty, Taiwan was a province of China. You are can read more about this time period here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Qing_rule
The more correct term is the PRC has never ruled Taiwan. Taiwan was ruled by Qing China and are now rule by the ROC.
This irrelevant as people around the world has always thought of the land that was previously known by several names is now called China, after the people who lived on this land. That is why the 56 different ethnic groups of people are collectively known as Chinese.
PRC ruled by CCP never owned nor governed Taiwan, but the island nation is a colony of KMT ruled ROC and during China's Qing Dynasty.
@@bowlampar Please check the constitution of China whether it is the constitution practised on the mainland or the constitution practised in the Province of Taiwan. Then you will see that China does indeed own Taiwan.
Then check with your Government. Every Government in the World see that Taiwan is an island or a Province of China. This is regardless whether they recognise the Government in Taipei to represent the whole of China or the Government in Beijing to represent the whole of China.
Such as changing history books, and changing passports, but the people in Taiwan don't seem to agree with this, so it's not easy to change the constitution, and the most important thing is that if Taiwan doesn't recognize it as China, mainland China will have to use military force to unify
0:34 who is Choi Yin Ming?
Who cares?
Because Taiwan is a province name and ROC is the country name
Just like you can call Harry Potter as much as you like but his real name is Daniel Radcliffe, all of his official matters has to be settle under the name Daniel Radcliffe instead of Harry Potter
Taiwan which is actually/officially ROC hav to admit a fact that their relationship with the PRC is that which of them is the official representative of the whole China,
Not Two China, not one China one Taiwan
2023 March 29th At 22:32: I shouted out "Give some land to the Republic Of China", but actually the right statement should be: Return the land to the Republic Of China. It is: Return Republic Of China's land to Republic Of China. There is a 1946's map to refer to. Jie Song, in Florida, United States of America. 🐼
Taiwan never named themselves REPUBLIC OF CHINA, the KMT invaded Taiwan and still calls Taiwan a province, the only one they still have control over, besides the Matsu Islands which are technically part of Fukien Province, over which the ROC is still in control of, but limited to only the Matsu Islands, part of Lienchiang County, Fukien Province. So, ROC has two provinces, Taiwan and Fukien. That's why the ROC won't change its name to Taiwan, because it's NOT Taiwan, it's the Republic of China-On-Taiwan. The island's latest colonizers, the KMT, but now the PRC wants a piece, and the Chinese Civil War was never legally finished, there's been no surrender, so, technically they're still at war.
don't forget kinmen
You have one country, you have two regimes, and they go to war. Similar to the Civil War in American history, except that the two regimes are still at war.
In other words, there are 2 countries having a common term called "China". Its just a name. TW was occupied by Japan and then returned to ROC. But MAO formed a new country called PRC that excluded TW which was occupied by a shrunken ROC which is only taiwan and no longer mainland. A easier way to understand this confusing name is to think of North and South Korea. Both countries share a common term called "Korea" . Same but Different thing totally. Mutually Exclusive. Just like North and South Sudan, North America and South America are totally Mutually Exclusive
Your examples are wrong and not applicable to Taiwan. The examples are one land territory divided into two territories for two different governments. Taiwan territory did not belong to China territory during the civil war in China territory. The government of China, ROC was overthrown by treacherous communist rebels to establish their own government PRC to replace ROC. The ROC officials were kicked out and eliminated out China to take safety refuge in another island territory Taiwan of Japan but occupied by the US after the surrender. With the acceptance of the US, ROC was in exile and ended as government of Taiwan. The main difference is that Taiwan was another territory not part of China when ROC was moved to Taiwan.
@@thornados4969 Long story short, Whoever Owns a Country No Longer Matters when a War breaks out Because the Territorial Ownership is Changed from that instant. This is the sad fact of War. So Ownership of a Country is Regardless of its History. Even if we consider History, the land called China does not belong to the Chinese when humans first set foot on what is now known as China territory. Please debunk me if anyone of you wants to
@@1stPrinciples455 Taiwan is not owned by China nor subject to ownership by a foreign country. China is using a false propaganda of war to justify their illegal claim. China has no right because the Taiwan has never ruled by China before and after 1945. It's wrong. The right one is for Taiwan to regain the ROC membership now as representative government of Taiwan since 1949. China has its veto power to block Taiwan's UN membership for at least 15 times. This should the right promotion rather that China's false propaganda of illegal claim.
@@thornados4969 Do you feel that "ROC" is not appropriate a name for Taiwan which does not belong to China. To Old Chiang, it makes sense. But to the present taiwan, i think the term ROC is no longer appropriate since taiwan is not china nor owned by china and for "ROC" to comprise the word "China" is misleading and inappropriate. My point is, Taiwan should not blindly continue to use the term ROC since its causing problems
But Taiwan is the Republic of China. How come UN doesn't recognized it as a sovereign nation?
Real China, Long Live the Republic of China! We will be back stronger than ever regain our lost lands in Siberia. Also, with warp drive light engine space planes and trading posts in other space colonies, create hundreds of trillion dollar public listed companies.
It was alright for the world to understand two Koreas, two Germanys, two Yemens. So it should be alright for the world to understand we have two Chinas, one Communist, one is not.
I do hope that the Chinese civil war will come to an end and that the people of the whole of China will reunite again where brothers and sisters, cousins, uncles and aunts do not fight each other any more. I hope that all the people of China will live together in peace and as one people, one family. Currently the Democratic system practised on the mainland seems to be the most effective and that the people there are enjoying a better life with more freedom than the people in the Province of Taiwan. I do hope that the Chinese people in Taiwan will be able to realise that and do not close their eyes, ears and hearts to their relatives across the straits.
Thank you to everyone here for wanting peace. That means a lot to me.
@@roxylasch9058 LOL go check the facts first then come and comment again. You need to know how they vote for their leaders and how the structure of their voting system is then you will understand that the democracy practised there is different from what you have but it still is a democracy.
@@LoC28C China has one-party dictatorship. It's still a communist state but they adopted the western capitalist economic system, the key of China's rise as powerful country.
@@thornados4969 That shows you are totally ignorant about Chinese Politics. There are many political parties in China and there is an election every 4 years. Just that the structure of the elections is different from what you see in many other parts of the world.
@@LoC28C Yes you are right. There are 8 minor political parties in local level but they don't have power to oppose and can't participate the national level. Meaning the so called multi-party politics are under the cooperation, consultation and supervision of CCP - the only ruling party of PRC. In a democratic country like Taiwan, the multi-party politics are allowed not only in local level but also the national level including the top position presidency. So Taiwanese voter has to vote directly the candidate himself and not the party. The party of the elected president becomes the ruling party while the other parties role are opposition for check and balance of country's issues.
ROC is the name of government representing Taiwan. It's like PRC, the government of China.
我来自大陆，台湾人应该清醒得认识到这个世界的真相。
这个世界的国家是否发达，从来都不是因为民主，有的国家因为先发优势，有的国家因为资源满地老天赏饭吃，有的国家先发不足但后天猥琐发育，能内卷靠吃苦从其他国家赚了钱。台湾属于靠着周边国家起步晚，跟着西方末端搞代工，吃了一波时代红利才发展起来的，而不是因为民主或改革。
如今的世界大家比烂，存量博弈，周边的越南泰国印度一个个比台湾能卷，超越台湾可能就是一眨眼二十年三十年的事情。
台湾在西方秩序里永远不过是一个四流地位，如果说第一档是五眼昂撒控制世界经济科技，第二档就是老欧洲吃一些盟友的肉骨头，第三档是美国异族盟友或被占领国比如日韩，当然这里面也分三六九等，台湾因为离大陆太近，地位只在韩国之后，和乌克兰立陶宛差不多，作用不过是大国棋子，美国的第一线沙包，挡住大陆第一波子弹用的。所以我很不明白一些台独人士究竟是为什么什么如此反大陆。
假设大陆以后引领世界，台湾最差也是如今加拿大的地位，可以说立马就是世界的中心，所有世界民族里的人上人。但只要是还是如今的西方秩序，台湾人世世代代子子孙孙不过是西方秩序分工里的最末端。
靠近大陆是台湾的一个机会，也是台湾人最优的选择。
这个世界从来没有100%的民主，有的只是精英和普通群众两个阶级，精英不分国界，精英推动社会发展，精英垄断资源，古代是土地兼并，现代是资本兼并，精英的贪婪又被普通大众推翻，然后资源重新分配，周而复始。
抱住大陆的大腿，赶上时代红利，增进交流是台湾的上策；见风使舵两头平衡是中策；坚持台独紧抱西方，不断挑起争端，眼睁睁看着二三十年后自己变成周围最穷的地区，是下策。
But how about your neighbours, we're antagonized by you now. China before was so accomodating with its neighbours. You wanted just to be a friend to us before, no quarrels, just trading with one another for what have it with another.
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民主是中华人民共和国的基本国策，之前差点写在国名里面。
我是坚定的共产主义者，你是反革命
凡事以利為先， 深的孟子的真傳，孺子可教也。中國人人都活的美好，非常幸福，不像台灣人，天天罵政府。
兄弟，你概括的最好了
Guys, do you ever sometimes wonder whether Asia today would be at harmony and peace had the benevolent Nationalist China (ROC 🇹🇼) won the Chinese Civil War? Personally, I think things would at least be much better. If only we had some kind of time machine, brother. :(
1. North Korea would have been quickly destroyed, reuniting all of Korea under a democratic republic.
2. The Indian subcontinent would have been one happy family, and China and India would remain close allies and partners.
3. The Tibetans would be peacefully practicing Buddhism under an elected government.
4. Russia would have been changed into a pro-Western democracy, one way or another.
5. China and America would be the world's foremost superpowers, and best friends together leading the Western and Eastern civilizations, perhaps forever and ever. :)
【 USA🇺🇸 India🇮🇳 Japan🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷, Philippines 🇵🇭 Singapore 🇸🇬, France 🇫🇷, Australia 🇦🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Ukraine 🇺🇦 Europe 🇪🇺 Israel 🇮🇱 and China🇹🇼】
The ROC government took control of China in the past through a brutal dictatorship, and until now, the ROC government still claims South Tibet, Mongolia. They don't even have a Tibetan autonomous region like the PRC. I think you are a little idealistic, for example, the United States and Japan are democratic Allies, but the United States still regarded Japan as an enemy in the 1980s.
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again.
It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island.
If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
I hope the indigenous people of America, Australia and New Zealand will take back their land and kick the whites back to UK and let them unify their lost, unruly people. May the King pardoned their ancestor's crime which caused them to be banished to other's land.
For the same reason South Korea is called the Republic of Korea. The nation is Republic of China and Taiwan is a regional designation. South and North Korea are also regional designations for the Republic of Korea and Democratic Republic of Korea.
There's nothing strange about being Republic of China as there is no Republic of Taiwan.
You are exactly correct. I live in the west, and the majority of people around me have never even heard of "Republic of China". This is why I am creating this channel.
@@regalcompendium it's because you the WEST agreed to have a one-China policy. Are your reversing that policy now! State your arguments!BS!!!
@@fernandocruz4877 Did you even watched the video? Totally missed his point.
Pre-1949 defeat they were the official govt of China. Ur explanation makes perfect sense .. hence the political sensitivity. Renaming themselves as The Republic Of Taiwan is the red line triggering the unthinkable .. best 2 retain their current title & hence adhere 2 the (conveniently ambiguous) One China Policy & the status quo (which's official US & allied policy) .. but they are self-governing & already effectively independent. Thx 4 the excellent history lesson helping me 2 understand my original heritage. Final thought: interesting isn't it, that BOTH the PRC & Taiwan revere Sun Yut Sen as the founder of "modern" China.
Imagine if the USA didn't fully defeat CSA , instead CSA retreat to Texas, and than wants to declare Texas as a country and don't want any ties as America. This is what the China Taiwan relationship now.
No it should be the USA retreated from the CSA, because the CCP actaully split from the ROC.
i guess one mistake, Dutch occupied taiwan inbeween 1624-1662, not 1624-1644. thanks
Is very simply, there are 2 China. But people tend to ignore it and pretend there's only one China for the sweet sweet profit
That tactic could not work. Taiwan is not a sovereign state. Taiwan is an island. In 1949, Chiang Kai Shek and his two million KMT soldiers landed on the island of Taiwan after they lost the Chinese civil war to the Chinese communists. At that time, the island of Taiwan was already under the United States Military Government (USMG). Why? When Japan surrendered to the Allied Forces in 1945, Japan returned the island of Taiwan to China. Taiwan (the Formosa) was a Japanese territory for fifty years. Chiang Kai Shek then reorganizes the government of the Republic of China in Taiwan till today. At all times till today, the Constitution adopted and used is the Constitution of the Republic of China, as amended brought by Chiang Kai Shek to Taiwan.
Taiwan is a sovereign state. Even grade schoolers know it. Communists won the war but the government did not dissolved. Does your communists government controls the government of taiwan? Does the laws of the CCP being implemented in Taiwan? Does the people of Taiwan recognized Xi Jinping as their head of the state? NO . So how can you say it is not a sovereign state?
Almost none of the other comments here are productive or genuine. It’s a lot of disingenuous rambling, memes, and overall shitposting. I recommend everyone read John Tay’s Books on Chiang Kai Shek and Jiang Jing Guo, as well as other histories of Taiwan. You know, actual real scholarship.
Thank you so much the book suggestions. I will check them out.
Because Taiwan is a name of a territory, whereas Republic of China is the name of a country, part of China.
Fact: Taiwan is not a country, instead, part of country called Republic of China or People's Republic of China, depending on which side you live. Thus, there should never be any confusion. The confusion as discussed in the video is the intentional misleading driven by current ROC government in Taiwan controlled by DPP, which is seeking independence of Taiwan from China. On top of that, west media propaganda is misleading the public by only using Taiwan, ignored the existence of ROC. For example, using Taiwanese government...
Because Taiwan Province is a Province of the Republic of China and by extension a province of China.
Taiwan province does not exist in ROC government. No province in Taiwan country today.
@@thornados4969 From wiki. Taiwan Province is a nominal administrative division of the Republic of China (ROC). Its definition has remained part of the Constitution of the Republic of China ...
From a legal point of view, Taiwan Province exists as part of the Republic of China even if from an administrative point of view it is not functional as its powers have been transferred to the various counties
@@jaichind Wiki is not a government portal. Go to taiwan gov tw. Taiwan province no longer exists as province but a country territory of ROC.
china never had command of the full island. They were able to settle on flat coastlines but unable to navigate the mountains. these subtleties are important as leaving them out implies china ever had full control over the island which is historically false.
Chiang Kai Sek carry the Republic of China from mainland China to Taiwan when Mao Tse Tong called mainland China "The People Republic of China"
To put it simply, in 1949, the Chinese Communist Party defeated the Kuomintang, and the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan. Therefore, the Chinese Communist Party established the People's Republic of China in place of the Republic of China in mainland China, and claimed that the island of Taiwan belonged to the People's Republic of China. However, after the Kuomintang retreated to Taiwan, it did not recognize the legitimacy of the People's Republic of China, and claimed that the mainland of China belonged to the Republic of China. To this day. Another interesting thing is that in 1945, the government of the Republic of China joined the United Nations, but in 1971, the People's Republic of China replaced the permanent seat of the Republic of China in the United Nations, and the United Nations recognized the representative of the government of the People's Republic of China as the sole legal representative of China in the United Nations
those who know Chinese history are easy. For those who don't have knowledge about Chinese history, remind them that there were 2 Germanies before and there are still North and South Korea today.
Because it's the real china
Republic of China is a regime who is former president Chiang Kai-Shek bring to Taiwan, Taiwan have other name called Formosa and its no under control by CCP, Taiwan is an island country.
PRC has claimed over Taiwan island but Taiwan is also claim whole territory of PRC including Xinjiang Tibet even Mongolia. And also South China Sea.
That's why China is also confused about south china sea. Confusing?
holy roman empire is not roman or empire!
Thank you for your video, its very important let more western countries people understand these history. Too many misunderstood now.
非常感谢你用西方世界更能理解的方式解释这段历史，无论中国叫PROC还是ROC先能理解这段历史很重要，目前真的有太多误会了。
It’s not misunderstanding. It’s misleading by the western media and the Taiwan gov itself.
Republic of China is the name of China, while Taiwan is one island of Republic of China. This China is not the same the PRC now.
*Why the Republic of China is colloquially referred to as Taiwan
I hope the Republic of China(=taiwan) government will recapture the mainland china and unify it again.
It is too bad that the territory of the liberal and powerful democratic government of the Republic of China is such a small island.
If China were a democratic government, it would not have fought the United States like this now..
The Republic of China is colloquially known as Taiwan is because Taiwan is the island where the administrative capital of the Republic of China sits. The territory of the Republic of Taiwan also includes the provinces and regions known as Tibet, Xinjiang, Inner and Outer Mongolia, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macao, and all of the other provinces within the country including the whole of the South China Sea, Ladakh, and so on. Most countries around the world recognises the Government of the People’s Republic of China that sits in Beijing. Only 14 Pacific island countries and the Vatican recognises the Government that sits in Taipei as the legitimate Government of China.
@@LoC28C Country name refers to the name of the territory as a whole. So Taiwan is the name of the country. ROC is just a name of the government ruling the Taiwan's territory which originated as government of China and ended as government of Taiwan after the end of Chinese civil war in China.
@@thornados4969 Don't imagine your own history. The Chinese Civil War is still going on. It has not officially ended yet.
Taiwan is not a country. Nobody in this world officially recognises Taiwan as a country. All Governments and international organisations recognises only 1 China and that Taiwan is a part of China. Only 14 small pacific island nations in this world recognises the Government of the Republic of China. The Rest of the world and all international organisations recognises the Government of Beijing as the legitimate Government of all of China including the island of Taiwan.
@@LoC28C The civil war ended when the communist betrayed and successfully overthrew it's own government ROC in China and replaced it with their own communist party and new government PRC 1949 and most of political refugees went to Taiwan - another territory not belong to China. PRC nullified ROC's government in China including all previous agreements with other countries to define new territories of PRC except illegally claiming Taiwan which has never been controlled by them.
Taiwan is recognized worldwide either de-jure and de-facto country with embassies worldwide. Foreigners need a visa or permit to enter Taiwan like any other country. Taiwan now a true democratic government participated by all Taiwanese, a model country for Chinese in China if they want to enjoy political freedom.
Historically, ROC originated as government of China and ended as government of Taiwan. China and Taiwan are different lands divided by the strait with two different territories, two different histories, two different people demographics, and two different governments.
So, China's claim on Taiwan is baseless and illegal. That's the bottom line.
As bad as it was, PRC was foretold to happen and life under the PRC would be hell. My grandparents prepped in preparation and diplomatic in his dealings with them but unfortunately they still got them. He treated them with kid gloves and still got burnt. Anyone who knew of the prophecy knew to get out but if you knew and still stayed, welp you were warned but you persisted. They played nice in the 1st few years to try to coax people who knew what was up and gfto. Unfortunately people fell for it and didn't think the prophecy would come true and went back. Unfortunately the ancient experts who foretold the ccp were right on the money. They also foretold the pandemic. Sadly no one listened except Obama.
fully support the Republic of China and welcome it back to democratize mainland China. but strongly oppose Taiwan as a country
The thing is that that’s very unlikely, is a small island vs a great superpower
Excellent
Thank you so much :)
Why Republic of China called Taiwan?
I still believed there is still hope only a matter of time....
Republic of China and People's Republic of China, the only difference is the "People".
Fujianese know about Taiwan before the Dutch. Stupid narrative
Need to have printed brief history of ROC sovereign jurisdictions on Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen & Matsu Islands only & not part of communists ruled PRC
All in all. It is US try to subject Chinese issue and act as a tyrant boss over Chinese people.
Because the civil war still unfinished the old government of China who defeated flee to Taiwan and remained there until today while the winner the communist established prc in the mainland and off course they claimed taiwan too as this island still under their rival party.
If we want to better understand the Taiwan issue, we must step back and consider the Chinese position.
The Chinese always remember that the Cairo conference returned Taiwan to China. They posit that Japan stole Taiwan in 1895. From 1895 to 1945, Japan "occupied" Chinese Taiwan. And in 1945, China victorious against Japan regained possession of its territory, Taiwan.
They, our rascally Chinese weasels, forget the clause in the Cairo communiqué which declares that the “three great powers” have no territorial ambition of their own. Article 73 of the United Nations Charter states that colonial possessions taken from the enemy will be subject to UN trusteeship, as was the case for Italian Somalia and Italian Libya.
Chiang Kai-shek signed the United Nations Charter a day before the U.S. Navy landed its Chinese KMT army on Japanese Formosa. Chiang Kai-shek knew that he would only have Taiwan under mandate. Since the Napoleonic Wars, occupation no longer means annexation.
Ignoring Shimonoseki and San Francisco, China claims to have reclaimed Taiwan in accordance with Cairo and Potsdam when Japan surrendered. But the legal fact remains that Shimonoseki had nullified any future Chinese legal claims to Taiwan. The United States used San Francisco to insulate Taiwan from China's future territorial ambitions.
China has no legal rights to Taiwan. Taiwan has not been part of China. Taiwan is not separated from China. Taiwan was once part of Japan. Taiwan is currently separated from Japan due to a carefully concealed American occupation. Why isn't the United States stationing troops in Taiwan to ward off Chinese aggression? Because it's not necessary.
The commander-in-chief (president) of the Chinese rebels who fled Chinese Kinmen and Matsu to Taipei is also the governor of Taiwan (and Penghu), an American protectorate. This confusing arrangement conceals the continued US occupation of Taiwan, while accommodating a common weapon of Chinese on both sides of the Strait, namely Chinese nationalist sensitivities.
The Chinese rebel territories of Kinmen and Matsu, as well as the hidden rebel commander-in-chief (president) in Taipei have always been a nuisance that China loves to pin down. China, steeped in feigned anger, complains and threatens non-Chinese Taiwan, while ignoring the Chinese rebel territories of Kinmen and Matsu.
According to the United States-Japan Defense Treaty, after the restoration of Japan's national sovereignty on April 28, 1952, the United States continued to station troops in Japan as if Japan remained territory occupied by the victorious enemy.
China's extreme but feigned anger and threatening attitude toward Taiwan and Penghu justifies keeping US Marines in Okinawa in the eventuality of a Taiwan contingency. In turn, the continued presence of US Marines on Okinawa further angers China's staged anger and exposes Japan to the Chinese threat.
The United States is using Taiwan to manipulate China's nationalist sensitivities to justify the continued presence of American forces in Okinawa, while further angering China, thus inciting it to threaten not only Taiwan but Okinawa as well. thus further justifying the maintenance of American forces in Japan.
The emcee steps out of the limelight, leaving the circus stage to the caged dragon and the trainer who taunts the dragon with Taiwanese deer meat. The audience is tense and stamping with enthusiasm.
Every time the dragon throws a tantrum, its Chinese nationalist sensitivities are rewarded. The show continues and the master of ceremonies sniggers, delighted, backstage. Everyone misses the point.
The American military-industrial complex is rubbing its hands. The Chinese on both sides of the Strait are partnering with the United States to keep both Japan and the real, legal Taiwan separated, humiliated and downtrodden under their cumulated influences.
Owing to Taiwan's survival issues, Taiwan must call itself "Taiwan" and normalize its situation under the United States' Taiwan Relations Act.
Owing to Taiwan's survival issues, normalizing Taiwan means having to accept the legal fact that Taiwan has been a U.S. trust territory since April 28, 1952.
The legal basis of the American “Taiwan Relations Act” is Article II(b) of the Treaty of San Francisco. It is no coincidence that Chinese parties on both sides of the Taiwan Strait want to ignore this basis of Taiwan's "undetermined international status."
For the sake of its survival, Taiwan must respect the legal implications of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. Legally speaking, Taiwan is the “Taiwan-Penghu Independent Customs Territory,” which was once a Japanese territory but is now a U.S. trust territory, hidden under the rags of Chinese nationalism.
Since the entry into force of the San Francisco Peace Treaty which separated Taiwan from Japan, Taiwan has formed a non-Chinese independent customs territory (獨立關稅區) under the "General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade" ( GATT, 1947-94) renewed under the aegis of the World Trade Organization (WTO).
The Chinese Kinmen and Matsu Separate Customs Territory (金馬個別關稅領域), although separate from China, belongs to China. This is China's knee pressing on the neck of Taiwan and Penghu. To breathe freely, Taiwan must break away from its moorings (Kinmen and Matsu, China) along the Chinese coast.
Everything that is considered “Chinese” (中華) in Taiwan becomes “Taiwanese” and one must be prepared to sacrifice everything for Taiwan. If the American model of nation-building is to be applicable to Taiwan, the "Chinese" political element must be eliminated from Taiwan.
Once the decoupling of "American Taiwan" from China is completed, the international status of "American Taiwan" will change from the US Mandate of Taiwan to the US Protectorate of Taiwan (台灣國) or the US Protectorate of Takasago(高砂國).
Taiwan is not a country name，the ROC it is
Just simple : Taiwan is an ancient part of China. No one can change the history
Just couple hundreds years ago, not that ancient.
@@paulskiye6930however old, it probably still is older in time before the US is even considered as a nation
Why is Taiwan called Republic of China? Simple, because there is 2 Chinas at the moment. Like Korea.
I know also reason that today china is PEOPLE republic china cause of soviet revolution in republic china it was stuck in island named TAIWAN it fall at people republic and mongolia
The Republic of China was founded in 1912. It is the real China, the free and democratic China. Taiwan is part of the Republic of China. Taiwan did not "name" it self the Republic of China. The assumption that Taiwan and China are complete different is the root cause of such confusion, based on the lack of knowledge of basic Chinese history since the 20th century.
It is very simple, the government of of the Republic of China retreated to the island of Taiwan after the defeat in the Chinese civil war and continued till this day. So it's not Taiwan became the Republic of China or named itself the Republic of China. Taiwan returned to ROC rule after Japan's defeat in WW2 in 1945. Since then Taiwan has been under the legal jurisdiction of the Republic of China, continuously until now. The de facto jurisdiction of the Republic of China has been reduced to Taiwan and some surrounding and outlying islands, but it continued its legitimate rules onto this day. So in the end, Taiwan is part of the real China, not the Communist mainland China, but the free and democratic China.
So ??? 🤩🤩🤩
我是河南人，不知道能不能很容易地拿到民国护照？河南人太多了，高考太难了
Taiwan is Taiwan.
Fathers names are their family origins.
Both adheres to one china. Republic of china and peoples republic of china
The title itself is very misleading like. Taiwan is part of the Republic of China. Learn the history in a corrected way lol.
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can't tell if you are serious or not
Travel promise is better than mainland china passport I
Think I say it is rightfully
Taiwan is a part of China and it is China. The Chinese took it from the aborigines in the 1600s and made it China. Like USA took Hawaii and Japan took Okinawa. Same process different location.
On this world had not one race call taiwanese,all of them are Chinese!
That’s opposite way, Republic of China, Taiwan is name of the place/island, stop mess around.
If Taiwan is called the Republic of China, then what is the position of Mainland China? Can you blame China for the threats they are throwing?
Has the Taiwanese seriously considered this because there are a lot of overseas chinese who are also going to be confused. Imagine overseas chinese will have to explain which China their ancestors come from. 😒
So this is also the very reason why Taiwan cannot be in an international event? In the video, how is it there is no mentioned about the Cairo Declaration that proclaimed Taiwan and the Penghu Archipelago returned to China in 1943. This is actually the most important reason that Taiwan cannot be Sovereign. Where is the integrity of your post?
PRC is the government of China and ROC is the government of Taiwan. ROC was the government of China 1911-1949 and after losing to communist PRC, ROC escaped/saved by Taiwan to become the proxy occupying government of Taiwan residents after the Japanese colonial government left Taiwan. The Cairo declaration had no bearing after the 1952 Japan peace treaty.
@@thornados4969 China didn’t sign the 1952 treaty, so issues between China and Japan were not solved.
@@kaichang2059 Because Korea and Taiwan were territories of Japan and China was an outsider. Both Korea and Taiwan technically became independent from Japan after the 1952 treaty. So Korea and Taiwan were non of China's business.
@@thornados4969 Republic of Korea and North Korea were founded in 1948, Taiwan province government was founded in 1947, Japan and the whole world didn’t give any opposition, since both Korea and China didn’t sign the 1952 treaty, the treaty is totally nonsense on these territories. If you says to a Korean his county’s independent day started on 1952 he will spit on you. Russia and Japan is still under war legally and their land dispute is still on because of no peace treaty.
Wow, what a sickly smile. 0:05
BC we are real china XDDDDDDD
as long as you guys till view yourselves China, we're good i guess(a comment from Chinese mainland)
Yes u can be as real as it can be. Earn the hearts of the Chinese people if u r seriously a competent leadee without doing those nonsense dirty tricks. Chinese people on mainland is still waiting and counting on u to "make china great again". But time is ticking u better hurry up.