DOTM Mudflap was my childhood holy grail. I was falling behind in school and my reading teach told me hed buy a transformer if I improved my grades, It might not not be a good toy but it meant more to me then anything else at the time.
6:39 To quote PerspectiveEnd for this part (and modify said quote): "There's no way they were like, 'Yeah, live with the kibble on the backs of the legs, and then have the knee joints go-' THE WRONG DIRECTION!" "...because of his insubstantial knees, and their limited posing that only works THE WRONG WAY!" "And knees that ONLY BEND THE WRONG WAY!"
Actually, if you look at reviews and pictures from the time. The "Yellowing" on Mudflap isn't actually yellowing, it's just the color of the plastic they chose for some reason
Despite all the controversy surounding them i still have hopes we'll get them in SS eventually. As a kid i genuinelly loved them- mainly due to the fact they actually had screentime as opposed to most other bayformers, but i did love them nonetheless. Especially Mudflap in ROTF, i really love his altmode, and his bot mode design is much better than Skids' in my opinion. And i do love their icecream truck appearance
I feel like Skids and Mudflap would have been not hated as much in DOTM if they were kept, but I agree with them being removed from the film. Not being allowed to have studio series is ridiculous because all they need to do is bite the bullet, but they are unwilling to. For good reason, but I just wish they would.
despite what people said in a poll, Bay completely disagreed and had them killed off in the dark of the moon prequel story where shockwave attacked and killed off a good deal of the autobots including arcee and her sisters or clones whatever you want to call them and skids and mudflap were among them as well. Bay said their dialouge in Revenge was very off the wall racist and apparently even paramount and spielberg were on that same page. them being in dark of the moon was a mistake bay said was too late to correct after things were already done.
I remember owning both of these at one point, and they aren't great I remember my skids right arm would always fall off the ball joint and as for mudflap the I hated the transformation, but I will always treasure the dark of the moon toyline as my favorite toy line even if they had some flops in the line
I got these figures for two reasons 1: because I lost the original ROTF versions 2: my mom actually likes the Twins and begged me to add them to my collection
I remember I was at the store ready to buy a transformer, and I saw Skid’s head in the window and somehow that was an ultimate deciding factor to get Mechtech Ratchet. It was probably a good thing I picked Ratchet though
I actually keep my Dotm skids feet untransformed and backwards so they can properly bend and just dont look clownish, and never bothered to get a DOTM mudflap because the Tuner mudflap is honesty the perfect one i need. I cannot imagine how much copium people are dosing, but im so in love with Skids and Mudflap UPDATE: I just got Dotm Mudflap and I love how goofy he is
If someone made new heads for these, I could pretend they're entirely new characters... But no one has, and i can't, so that sucks Also, incorrect- Crankcase is the best Legacy Skids anything
I got rid of my ROTF skids and mudflap because I hated those characters so much. Now they are the only ones from the movies I don’t have and I need everyone. The toys weren’t that bad and now I’m gonna have to try and get them again.
As an old f*rt, who grew up with G1 Transformers and the Cartoon, etc, etc, etc... I mostly forgave Michael Bay for the first TF Movie, because it was the first time we'd ever seen those beloved little robots in live-action, even if they weren't modelled correctly, and the alt modes and transformations were all wrong, but ROTF, DOTM and TLK were just like, WTF dude!?! All I can say is, thank GOD for THAT Cybertron scene in Bumblebee and Unicron in Rise of the Beasts!
i have the rotf mudflap and i actually really like that figure. the alt mode is ON POINT, nice and intricate transformation, and it results in an accurate enough robot mode!
Bro idk how u can associate a robot with a “stereotype” don’t that make the people with that opinion the ones that are racist? I mean look at Jazz, he was literally using slang and near enough similar dialogue yet there was no criticism there. I was acc shocked when I found out that there was this big controversy with these two characters, and the reason behind it.
Whether or not something is racist really isn't the kind of thing that should ever be decided by majority vote. It'll eventually just end up being decided by whether or not the majority happens to like that particular thing.
Parents aren’t buying Studio series figures for their kids, it’s the kids who grew up on these movies who are, the ones who are adults now who don’t mind the Twins.
I think they are pretty good and cute! The colour scheme is matching the dark theme. I put them together with the black bumblebee in my shelf. Orange/Yellow/Green
I have a lot of nostalgia for the dotm mudflap toy because it was one of my first transformers I ever got and I lost him somewhere at sometime when I was to young to remember anything and for the sake of nostalgia I look on eBay for him every now and again and I want your advice on if i should get it
And we know that hasbro isn’t gonna do studio series for skids and mudflap cause hasbro have been blocking people on instagram people asking if they are gonna be making studio series
Funny enough, 2 days ago my dad walks in and we randomly brought up these 2 in a conversation. He then asked why tf these lads weren't in the 3rd movie. I regret telling him as I think it ruined his day... Anyways yea that ain't yellowing plastic, it's just the way it is.
That Mudflap was my very first Transformers figure, and as I said on the other Skids and Mudflap video; Nothing will stop me from reuniting with my boy Mudflap!! The possible yellowing will be an issue...
Hottake. I like Skids and Mudflap and found their presence to be funny to watch when experiencing the movie I like when Bee tosses them around. I like when they fight each other. I like when one of them gets sucked ip by devastator then pops out his eyeball
I have the mudflaps that the arms pop off, they simply put the mushrooms pegs on the outside so when you lift them up you also lift the pegs. I hate that so much.
Well now you've brought it up. Gotta do human alliance skids & mudflap. Might as well knock out a few other (assuming better?) human alliance guys while you're at it, it's a cool toyline.
For those who haven’t watched Theorymus’s video, these two weren’t intended to be stereotypical depictions of black americans, but rather meant to be just some wannabes or “posers”
It was a dynamic Reno Wilson and Tom Kenny had planned, cuz it'd be fun. Playing wannabe gangsters tryna talk and act big, but bein BITCHES. Too bad the joke went way outta anyone's depth. Even the Hasbro guys don't want anythin to do with em, running with the stereotype perception lol
Also, Reno Wilson and another guy who also appeared in Adventure Time, John DiMaggio, were VAs not only in The Last Knight, but in MadWorld on Wii. What a fun coincidence
I always took them as very heavily like trailer park boys characters, a lot like members of my own family, but I definitely understand everyone else’s perspective on how they were perceived
I owned mudflap years ago, he was missing his doors and the hood of the car though as I got him used, and honestly I really loved him. He was weird and ugly but I enjoyed that about him. I don't know the asymmetry just appeals to me I guess? Again, I don't know, I just really like how he looks.
Again a reminder in the tie-in comic for dark of the moon sentani prime kills the twins and ironhide with the rust gun after he betrays the autobots after making a deal with megatron.
I had these toys I got them on eBay and they cost like 16 dollars together witch was a decent price for both up them together but after I Bought them I destroyed them both
Fun fact, mudflap isn’t yellowing. That’s just how the plastic was when they came out. I had them when they came out and mudflaps biceps are just different colors for no reason.
Also skid’s big hand is actually a QC issue. A lot of the old copies had loose or stressed elbow ball joints. Mine would fall off just bc the joint was that loose
I never really thought of those two racist, hell! even my mom liked those characters. I use to own the ROTF mudflap but it was starting to get loose and broken qwq I am a hardcore transformer fan, love the design. I just didn't like they focus more on the human than the actual transformers. ROFB did amazing.
Like I said in another comment, they're no more racist than a caricature of a white person. It's mostly just white people trying to be offended for other people.
This guy really hates these 2 lmao. Bruh chill, they arent real. Theorymus was right, these 2 arent even racist. You're just being very sensitive just to get offended by these 2 bots that got influenced by earthlings.
i love skids and mudflap personally i dont see why everyone was mad because nobody got mad when south park does stereotypes like bro if people are frickin mad about skids and mudflap then they should be mad at south part because trey parker and matt stone are white too so dont get mad at Michael bay without getting mad at them
Not a transformer comment BUT I thought you said it was hard to pull back the spring on the nerf gun. Go pick up a nerf rival blaster. The Optimus blaster is the rookie numbers of strength. Nerf rival fires rounds up to 90-100 fps. Muzzle velocity not constantly cause that would be scary.
I got DotM Mudflap at some point for some reason I don't remember why, and I genuinely kinda hate the figure. It's just a mess. Car mode is genuinely pretty good once you get it all stuck together, but the transformation and robot mode just suck so much.
I got the Skids figure when I was very young and it was new. I got it from a store and the arms kept falling off, got a refund, bought a new one, ars fell off again and I just kept it. It's a piece of shit but unfortunately I came to be attached to it and couldn't bring myself to getting rid of it. But yeah the arms do that no matter how new or old.
I will continue to recommend reading the IDW movie stuff with the movie adaptations. That also follows the book that you guy mentioned. Skids and mudflap are just idiots in the background. Still in the scenes they’re meant for, but but no racial overtones. As always great video my man.
I can’t wait for skids and mudflap to get executed by transit in Transformers: Unicron goes to Starbucks 2099
Fr fr it's gonna be the best thing since morbius
The best part is when transit says it’s Transitn time and transits all over skids and mudflap while Unicron eats an ice coffee
I'm very confused can someone plz explain?🤨
@@Grimlock-studios not to be that one guy but it's called a "joke"
Ok thank I thought yall where for real
DOTM Mudflap was my childhood holy grail. I was falling behind in school and my reading teach told me hed buy a transformer if I improved my grades, It might not not be a good toy but it meant more to me then anything else at the time.
im proud of you
Nice
Dat makes It a good toy 😊
Same thing happened to me actually! I loved these two because of that.
Haha, what a great teacher for utilizing what motivated you at the time!
I can easily say that as someone who had mudflap, That toy was extremely fiddly
Same. I hated that spoiler transformation it was pain. I remember it took me half an hour trying to peg it in and removing it
The human alliance of the rotf designs are the closest we’ll get to mpm figures of these guys, and mudflap is apparently super rare/expensive too
And then Unique Toys decided to try their hand at the twins
I honestly think that the skids and mudflap toys are pretty good for what they are trying to replicate
Yes
6:39 To quote PerspectiveEnd for this part (and modify said quote):
"There's no way they were like, 'Yeah, live with the kibble on the backs of the legs, and then have the knee joints go-' THE WRONG DIRECTION!"
"...because of his insubstantial knees, and their limited posing that only works THE WRONG WAY!"
"And knees that ONLY BEND THE WRONG WAY!"
Actually, if you look at reviews and pictures from the time. The "Yellowing" on Mudflap isn't actually yellowing, it's just the color of the plastic they chose for some reason
then again we've seen plastic yellow right out the factory before so it's not beyond the realms of posibility
@@Roboshi2007true
Despite all the controversy surounding them i still have hopes we'll get them in SS eventually. As a kid i genuinelly loved them- mainly due to the fact they actually had screentime as opposed to most other bayformers, but i did love them nonetheless. Especially Mudflap in ROTF, i really love his altmode, and his bot mode design is much better than Skids' in my opinion. And i do love their icecream truck appearance
The funny thing was, when the human alliance toys were released, their versions were very highly sought after.
I feel like Skids and Mudflap would have been not hated as much in DOTM if they were kept, but I agree with them being removed from the film. Not being allowed to have studio series is ridiculous because all they need to do is bite the bullet, but they are unwilling to. For good reason, but I just wish they would.
despite what people said in a poll, Bay completely disagreed and had them killed off in the dark of the moon prequel story where shockwave attacked and killed off a good deal of the autobots including arcee and her sisters or clones whatever you want to call them and skids and mudflap were among them as well. Bay said their dialouge in Revenge was very off the wall racist and apparently even paramount and spielberg were on that same page. them being in dark of the moon was a mistake bay said was too late to correct after things were already done.
They should’ve been in dotm so we could see them get merked by Sentinel Prime
Oh shit, bay is now entering his grandpa arc, regretting the things that he did way back.
I remember owning both of these at one point, and they aren't great I remember my skids right arm would always fall off the ball joint and as for mudflap the I hated the transformation, but I will always treasure the dark of the moon toyline as my favorite toy line even if they had some flops in the line
I got these figures for two reasons
1: because I lost the original ROTF versions
2: my mom actually likes the Twins and begged me to add them to my collection
For years I thought that the mudflap arm poping off problem was a thing of my copy. Glad to know there's a fix for that.
Shame that Skids and Mudflap were removed from Dark of the Moon. These new color schemes look awesome as hell.
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They could've died instead of Ironhide 😁
@@Shattered-Glass_Fancomics they died with Ironhide
@@UghUghagain I know
I remember I was at the store ready to buy a transformer, and I saw Skid’s head in the window and somehow that was an ultimate deciding factor to get Mechtech Ratchet. It was probably a good thing I picked Ratchet though
There’s no way people actually think skids and mudflap are racist
There's people who think that air conditioning is sexist, time is racist, etc.
I thought you said you weren't getting these
These aren’t studio series
@@stadic5311 I know but he said in the hftd skids video that he wasn't getting these figures
@@dipsyteletubbie770He said I pay 5 bucks for each one, so I think that's why
@@dipsyteletubbie770 ohhhh okay my bad
@@stadic5311There is no 13th prime
there is no transformers reactivate
and there is no studio series skids and mudflap!
I actually keep my Dotm skids feet untransformed and backwards so they can properly bend and just dont look clownish, and never bothered to get a DOTM mudflap because the Tuner mudflap is honesty the perfect one i need. I cannot imagine how much copium people are dosing, but im so in love with Skids and Mudflap
UPDATE:
I just got Dotm Mudflap and I love how goofy he is
If someone made new heads for these, I could pretend they're entirely new characters... But no one has, and i can't, so that sucks
Also, incorrect- Crankcase is the best Legacy Skids anything
Finally, someone else who appreciates Legacy crankcase
I wouldn't know if Crankcase was the best Skids reuse cause it never arrived to where I was at
If I got a dollar everytime a character named Crankcase saves a mold with previous QC issues, I would have $2.00 (TLK Berserker)
Even the voice actors said these characters are not racist.
Anyone who says they're racist is playing dumb
True
I got rid of my ROTF skids and mudflap because I hated those characters so much. Now they are the only ones from the movies I don’t have and I need everyone. The toys weren’t that bad and now I’m gonna have to try and get them again.
Friendly reminder that we almost had three of these guys during the production of ROTF
As an old f*rt, who grew up with G1 Transformers and the Cartoon, etc, etc, etc... I mostly forgave Michael Bay for the first TF Movie, because it was the first time we'd ever seen those beloved little robots in live-action, even if they weren't modelled correctly, and the alt modes and transformations were all wrong, but ROTF, DOTM and TLK were just like, WTF dude!?!
All I can say is, thank GOD for THAT Cybertron scene in Bumblebee and Unicron in Rise of the Beasts!
I would say the people who say these characters are racist are racist.
Bro the twins in the thumbnail look like they boutta say “instead of transforming you should go transform some bitches”
I never thought they were racist, I just thought they were funny.
I got Mudflap on my 12th birthday and Skids I got after I saw Real Steal in Theaters.
i have the rotf mudflap and i actually really like that figure. the alt mode is ON POINT, nice and intricate transformation, and it results in an accurate enough robot mode!
Bro idk how u can associate a robot with a “stereotype” don’t that make the people with that opinion the ones that are racist? I mean look at Jazz, he was literally using slang and near enough similar dialogue yet there was no criticism there. I was acc shocked when I found out that there was this big controversy with these two characters, and the reason behind it.
Whether or not something is racist really isn't the kind of thing that should ever be decided by majority vote. It'll eventually just end up being decided by whether or not the majority happens to like that particular thing.
I never found them racist.
Otherwise you’d all be saying Jazz in TF1 was racist…
Parents aren’t buying Studio series figures for their kids, it’s the kids who grew up on these movies who are, the ones who are adults now who don’t mind the Twins.
I think they are pretty good and cute! The colour scheme is matching the dark theme. I put them together with the black bumblebee in my shelf. Orange/Yellow/Green
i own these there really not that bad the head sculpt is nice and the car modes are pretty smooth and its simple to transform i like it
There just 2 brother that didn’t even do anything wrong
I have a lot of nostalgia for the dotm mudflap toy because it was one of my first transformers I ever got and I lost him somewhere at sometime when I was to young to remember anything and for the sake of nostalgia I look on eBay for him every now and again and I want your advice on if i should get it
I actually want both of these characters as toys
And we know that hasbro isn’t gonna do studio series for skids and mudflap cause hasbro have been blocking people on instagram people asking if they are gonna be making studio series
Funny enough, 2 days ago my dad walks in and we randomly brought up these 2 in a conversation. He then asked why tf these lads weren't in the 3rd movie. I regret telling him as I think it ruined his day...
Anyways yea that ain't yellowing plastic, it's just the way it is.
10:10 bro can still tell Leo to get a haircut in vehicle mode.
That Mudflap was my very first Transformers figure, and as I said on the other Skids and Mudflap video; Nothing will stop me from reuniting with my boy Mudflap!!
The possible yellowing will be an issue...
Hottake. I like Skids and Mudflap and found their presence to be funny to watch when experiencing the movie
I like when Bee tosses them around. I like when they fight each other. I like when one of them gets sucked ip by devastator then pops out his eyeball
It's not a hot take. It's the take most normies have. Just enjoy what you like.
I had Mudflag, and he cut my foot open 👍
1:41 Bluestreak blows them out of the water just by standing there
That’s the first time I’ve seen Optimus prime shoot skids and mudflap
When I played with the skids i would always imagine him getting blown up by my other cooler figures and falling out of buildings
One thing about Skids's roof during transformation: If you extend it outward and then swivel it to the right position it has less chance of coming off
Weirdly Skids and Mudflap almost have G1 proportioned designs. Intentionally or not they're the closest to G1 styled designs in the Bayverse.
wait he didn't show us if they actually scale with masterpiece, if they do then that's a huge W
Love that you went full sentinel prime on them
*SKIDS GOT DA BIG SHOE BIG SHOE*
bro skids's head was pretending to be a dashcam🗿
I have that Mudflap toy and just now I don’t know how but i successfully closed the door complétant one one side! No gap!
I like skids and mudflap . Is that a problem!?
I have the mudflaps that the arms pop off, they simply put the mushrooms pegs on the outside so when you lift them up you also lift the pegs. I hate that so much.
Well now you've brought it up. Gotta do human alliance skids & mudflap.
Might as well knock out a few other (assuming better?) human alliance guys while you're at it, it's a cool toyline.
For those who haven’t watched Theorymus’s video, these two weren’t intended to be stereotypical depictions of black americans, but rather meant to be just some wannabes or “posers”
It was a dynamic Reno Wilson and Tom Kenny had planned, cuz it'd be fun. Playing wannabe gangsters tryna talk and act big, but bein BITCHES.
Too bad the joke went way outta anyone's depth. Even the Hasbro guys don't want anythin to do with em, running with the stereotype perception lol
Them debuting in Revenge of The Fallen, which barely had much of a script. It's more accurate to see it as a draft...
It didn't help
Also, Reno Wilson and another guy who also appeared in Adventure Time, John DiMaggio, were VAs not only in The Last Knight, but in MadWorld on Wii.
What a fun coincidence
EXACTLY! That's what I keep saying. These guys aren't mocking black people, they're mocking the poser idiots who imitate *gangsters* !
I always took them as very heavily like trailer park boys characters, a lot like members of my own family, but I definitely understand everyone else’s perspective on how they were perceived
I owned mudflap years ago, he was missing his doors and the hood of the car though as I got him used, and honestly I really loved him. He was weird and ugly but I enjoyed that about him.
I don't know the asymmetry just appeals to me I guess? Again, I don't know, I just really like how he looks.
Again a reminder in the tie-in comic for dark of the moon sentani prime kills the twins and ironhide with the rust gun after he betrays the autobots after making a deal with megatron.
I bought these two recently, not because I really wanted them, but because I want a dotm twins representation
Cool to see that deleted scene of their deaths 😉
I had these toys I got them on eBay and they cost like 16 dollars together witch was a decent price for both up them together but after I Bought them I destroyed them both
Hey@thattoyguy can you do a review of Human Alliance Skids and Mudflap?
If there’s a hinge in the middle of a bot I somehow break it. I have these two and they aren’t exceptions.
100K!!!! Nice man!!!!
Fun fact, mudflap isn’t yellowing. That’s just how the plastic was when they came out. I had them when they came out and mudflaps biceps are just different colors for no reason.
Also skid’s big hand is actually a QC issue. A lot of the old copies had loose or stressed elbow ball joints. Mine would fall off just bc the joint was that loose
I used to have that Skids, but one day I got angry and threw it on the floor, so my parents came and threw it in the garbage
I never really thought of those two racist, hell! even my mom liked those characters.
I use to own the ROTF mudflap but it was starting to get loose and broken qwq
I am a hardcore transformer fan, love the design. I just didn't like they focus more on the human than the actual transformers. ROFB did amazing.
Like I said in another comment, they're no more racist than a caricature of a white person. It's mostly just white people trying to be offended for other people.
They were racist
But they talk and act like thugs, that makes them black, and negative depictions of black people are a big no-no
This guy really hates these 2 lmao. Bruh chill, they arent real. Theorymus was right, these 2 arent even racist. You're just being very sensitive just to get offended by these 2 bots that got influenced by earthlings.
Where are their weapons? Where they purchased from eBay or a junk lot that didn't have their weapons either way?
3:08 you know what they say about bots with big feet
Yo congrats on 100k
I hope they make a studio series of these guys
They won't. Hasbro designers block people even asking SS for them.
@@aires425lmao I forgot they did that
i just like the idea of:
"Sentinel killed the Twins"
my own head cannon
He didn't just kill them on his way out, he specifically took time out of his day to track them down and then kill them.
I got mudflap as a return gift from a birthday
Looks way better than the ROTF deluxes at least.
i love skids and mudflap personally i dont see why everyone was mad because nobody got mad when south park does stereotypes like bro if people are frickin mad about skids and mudflap then they should be mad at south part because trey parker and matt stone are white too so dont get mad at Michael bay without getting mad at them
i have these,i got them years ago,great toys,why all the hate towards them? what did they do wrong?
i had the mud flap as a kid and hated it, right up there with prime rid airachnid
I actually want these can someone tell me where I can find them for the cheapest?
Ebay, but have fun looking for the cheapest one...
Okay!
(I like these guys anyway. But only because they made me laugh when I watched rotf for the first time as a kid)
Not a transformer comment BUT I thought you said it was hard to pull back the spring on the nerf gun. Go pick up a nerf rival blaster. The Optimus blaster is the rookie numbers of strength. Nerf rival fires rounds up to 90-100 fps. Muzzle velocity not constantly cause that would be scary.
Is there a spark model?
I got DotM Mudflap at some point for some reason I don't remember why, and I genuinely kinda hate the figure. It's just a mess. Car mode is genuinely pretty good once you get it all stuck together, but the transformation and robot mode just suck so much.
Where do you get your figures from? Great video!
The legion clas figures of these two are genuinely their best toys imo. They’re very charming
The closest we're getting to an SS scale twins is the legends class figures from rotf and dotm
Woah Skids has the new air jordans!
The best characters in the franchise
Reminds me of the little bionical guys because of the oversized arms and feet
Devastator chew toys
They actually looks like fun little car-formers... If it wasn't for those horrendous head sculpts and the obvious source material.
I just bought the legends/cyberverse ones to scale with my studio series toys
Holy carp the gigantic doofy feet on skids! You could hold up a titan class figure with thoes things!
I got the Skids figure when I was very young and it was new.
I got it from a store and the arms kept falling off, got a refund, bought a new one, ars fell off again and I just kept it.
It's a piece of shit but unfortunately I came to be attached to it and couldn't bring myself to getting rid of it.
But yeah the arms do that no matter how new or old.
I actually do like these characters i'm kinda sad they removed for the third film
I will continue to recommend reading the IDW movie stuff with the movie adaptations. That also follows the book that you guy mentioned. Skids and mudflap are just idiots in the background. Still in the scenes they’re meant for, but but no racial overtones. As always great video my man.
am I the only one who thinks skids and mudflap were supposed to be named runamuk and runabout, but they just couldn't get the trademark?!
my friend has the mudflap and it is yellowing EVERYWERE!!!!
Skids in vehicle mode is still bugging me. 😂