@@alexbiketesteri think to answer this we need also to wait for the bosch release of the software that supports this thing and the availability. I personally think to go with the strive (comming from an levo2017 expert)
I recognized that a part of the comment was lost somehow. bosch has shown a range extender(PowerMore 250), this should be possible for all of the newer units, but the manufacturer has to approve the the bottelscrews for the extra weight . An of corse the thing has to fit phzsically in the frame, probably you can measure it in the futhure video: size 200x88x75mm. That will gibe the strive or the neuron (small neureon frame i think i won't fit) the possibility up to 1000wh!
@@alexbiketester 1000wh ist massive if you run it 50%of power, which is for a tour more than enough, you end with +3000hm . That eqals to 2-3big alps climbs... Crazy
Great review! I got a 2023 Spectral ON CF8, so it still has the 150mm fork, which actually works really well. Ive purposely left it alone for 1100 miles of all sorts of riding, lots of rocks/local riding. As noted here suspension set up makes all the difference, the rear sag has to for sure be dot on. Or pedal strikes will happen, be sure its on the firm side of set up. The bike turns much better when adjusted properly. At some point I will either turn the 150 fork into a 160, or buy an upgrade 160 fork, the bike is for sure worth modding to taste, its a monster truck of a bike and will bash thru anything, and also turn sharp, and is playful feeling when turning sharp. The Strive with long travel would be great at times, no doubt. The Spectral is my 1st E Mt bike but wont be my last.
Good day to you! I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan. Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video. Your bike ride video is so nice! Awesome! Full supported ! Have a nice day my friend!
Thanks for this video again man. I was wondering ; if you would live in the Netherlands where we have pretty much flat trails with not much elevation but you would love to take your bike once a year to vacation in the alps in Swiss or France and do some adventurous biking. I don’t mean the avalanche but just have a few hours of fun with variable trails. What would you then choose? I mean when I would only ride in the Netherlands I guess Neuron On would be most logical.. But take me with you in your thoughts..
Interesting, if you really are going to go once or twice then maybe a neuron ON, and have a 170mm fork for it for those trips.... which is a great idea and i think i will try it to see how it works and make a video about it.... ;-) The Spectral is a great bike, but needs some descend to have lots of fun, i prefer the neuron for sure if im mainly riding flatish stuff. Whats great is i took the bike extreme to find the limits.
Amazing Video! I have the Neuron On 7 and I simply love the bike! Like you said his good for having fun rides with friends ,etc. But I'm considering upgrading just to have more range. My battery is a 630w and a range in profile 2 stock gave me a max of 102km and 1700 meters high. But that's the limit. And I still have fun but after 5h+ of riding and managing the Battery i was exhausted. But Done more that 2000km on the neuron and in my opinion is an underrated bike! If this bike was able to have a range extender, or a longer battery i never though of changing for a long time. Keep Ripping! 🤟
Thanks for the video comparison. I’ve debated between the three for purchase. I heard the battery for the Neuron-on isn’t removable but is it replaceable in the future down the road?
One of the best comparison video's on YT. Thnx a lot. Watched it like 3 times as I am in the market for my first (e)-mtb. With the summer sale in mind, 5100eu for the Neuron cf7, 4200eu for the strive underdog, what would you do?
@@ZCarshowSpectral will be more as there’s only the 900w battery available, think its another £300. I went for the Neuron on as that was also discounted so ended up being less…
looking for my first emtb, i was a mtb marathon guy but now im 30kg over my normal weight , im a trek fan but their prices are ridiculous now, a think a neuron on 8 is the best choice to me, if we can put a fox 36 with 150mm on the front the bike will be top
Yes the neuron is a great value bike. If you just ride, your weight will come down.Just upgrade the tyre, @mbr test editor is sat next to me right now, and he agrees, my test bike has vee tyre. thovker casings go well.
@@alexbiketester thank you for the reply , tell me one thing in your videos about the neuron you said that in front its 150 mm but in canyon site it is 140mm and know its a personal taste but is the blue colour on the neuron is nice ?? another thing , im 1.73 cm and 74 cms and the canyon chart says its an S .. strange for me to have a bike with S size greetings from 🇵🇹🇵🇹
Hello Alex, Thank you for this very interesting video. There are currently great discounts on the Canyon website. the spectral on cf 9 is 5500€ and the neuron on cf 9 is 6000€. I will be tempted by the spectral which is 2000€ on sale but your opinion on the neuron also makes me think. the weight of the spectral is 24.5kg and it seems to me that the weight of the neuron which is lower is an advantage? What do you think is the best deal? what is the best value for money for you? THANKS
hey thanks fro watching! much appreciated. As I said int he video, a lot depends on your personal use style. The neuron is super capaabl;e if you are not doing any Enduro stuff and very upgradable in teh future if you want to get rowdy down the line.
Hi there Thanks for the comparisons, this is incredibly helpful! I am pretty certain that I'll buy a Canyon E-MTB due to the relatively low prices. Generally, I like a nimble and playful bike, I like to jump a lot. I will use the E-MTB for my local trails, which are essentially what you'd expect: Small jumps, tight corners, not too gnarly, etc. At the bottom of one local trail, there's a jump line however with quite a bit bigger jumps that are easily 4-5 meters in length. Is this something the Spectral can still handle or would you recommend going for the Strive to not take the risk of damaging the bike all too easily? Thanks in advance!
@@alexbiketester in fact we often do committed outings with 50-60 km with 1600 seas at altitude, so I'm looking for the best compromise in terms of battery power to be comfortable. thanks very much.
This will be my first e-bike. I currently ride a ripmo af and I'm stuck between the spectral and the strive. I won't be doing alot of park so I'm looking for a do everything bike. From this video I'm thinking the spectral is a better fit. Any thoughts? And is the bosch motor in the strive that much better than the shimano? Thanks
Do anything the Spectral would be ideal. For this type of use the Shimano motor is good, the new bikes come with the 801 motor which is good! tried it the other day.
StriveOn for me but it is a disappointment that Canyon does not sell its e bikes to Greek customers...I am heading to Orbea Wild or new Propain Ekano instead
@@alexbiketester Rough for sure...if you could help so that they change their policy, that would be great and there are a lot of people here who would be much obliged! What is the point shipping normal bikes and not e bikes? Please, do your best so that a solution can be found! Cheers!
The ride is up and down, the lifts are a part of the park, the lower part of the trail was a climb. Ebikes are versatile and can be used for all types of riding.
The Stive :ON has a big problem o the BatteryLatch, that develop play, unpluging and turning of the bike It is affecting all bikes, and deffect will appear accordingly to ride style. Canyon nor Bosch has a solution, and Customers are strandled with a deffective product. Cuidado Las Strive :on vienen con un problema de deseno en lo sistema de cerrar la bateria, gañando huelga e desconectando la bateria. Canyon lo sabe, pero solo cambia la cerradura y poco más. Tarde o temperano, lo irá ocorrer nuevamente.
It's not only me or my Strive :ON It's the design used to mount the battery Waiting for a replacement latch, that is the same, and will occur the same (as it did on other Strive :ON )
I have done multiple climbing tests, but its very subjective, the neuron part of the video has riding on flat trails which also go up and down. Specifically I can address this point in the third video commentary i I mention in the description. But each bike has been tested by me on the channel, so you can find that info in those tests. All three climb very similarly so no one will be disappointed, however the descent capabilities have far more influence on the overall feel of the bikes than the climbing in my experience.
@@alexbiketester like I said all 3 bikes are capable of climbing well and going down the same as well and the performance of every bike is good for every trail and rider
@@topchoice1621 I wouldn't say for every trail. I deliberately took them to a trail that will test the vertical capacity of the geometry let's say. In those conditions you could feel the difference clearly with each bike. The Strive could fly over stuff that you had to think about with the Neuron, which was out of its comfort zone. All good bikes, there is no perfect way to compare in my opinion after years and years of comparing bikes and test riding. So much subjective stuff going on.
the video i waited for :) thanks so much
any detailed questions, will be answered in more detail in third video.... get writing comments and ideas.
@@alexbiketesteri think to answer this we need also to wait for the bosch release of the software that supports this thing and the availability. I personally think to go with the strive (comming from an levo2017 expert)
I recognized that a part of the comment was lost somehow. bosch has shown a range extender(PowerMore 250), this should be possible for all of the newer units, but the manufacturer has to approve the the bottelscrews for the extra weight . An of corse the thing has to fit phzsically in the frame, probably you can measure it in the futhure video: size 200x88x75mm.
That will gibe the strive or the neuron (small neureon frame i think i won't fit) the possibility up to 1000wh!
@@winters3 Yes i can take a look at this, 1000 wh though is really a lot.... my legs will die before the battery....
@@alexbiketester 1000wh ist massive if you run it 50%of power, which is for a tour more than enough, you end with +3000hm . That eqals to 2-3big alps climbs... Crazy
Great now I want all three depending on how I feel on the day 😂
dude, you are not kidding.... lol.... its unusual to be able to test three bikes from one companies range...
Great review! I got a 2023 Spectral ON CF8, so it still has the 150mm fork, which actually works really well.
Ive purposely left it alone for 1100 miles of all sorts of riding, lots of rocks/local riding.
As noted here suspension set up makes all the difference, the rear sag has to for sure be dot on. Or pedal strikes will happen, be sure its on the firm side of set up. The bike turns much better when adjusted properly.
At some point I will either turn the 150 fork into a 160, or buy an upgrade 160 fork, the bike is for sure worth modding to taste, its a monster truck of a bike and will bash thru anything, and also turn sharp, and is playful feeling when turning sharp.
The Strive with long travel would be great at times, no doubt. The Spectral is my 1st E Mt bike but wont be my last.
Good day to you!
I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan.
Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video.
Your bike ride video is so nice!
Awesome!
Full supported !
Have a nice day my friend!
thanks Good day to you!
great video ,very honest strive on for me
Glad it helped, thanks for watching.
Very solid test! Thank u very much!
Thank you!
Thank you for this video as I have been conflicted over which to choose.
Get a Turbo Levo - avoid the BS ...
Thanks, your video helped me a lot to decide.
thank you
Thanks for this video again man. I was wondering ; if you would live in the Netherlands where we have pretty much flat trails with not much elevation but you would love to take your bike once a year to vacation in the alps in Swiss or France and do some adventurous biking. I don’t mean the avalanche but just have a few hours of fun with variable trails. What would you then choose? I mean when I would only ride in the Netherlands I guess Neuron On would be most logical.. But take me with you in your thoughts..
Interesting, if you really are going to go once or twice then maybe a neuron ON, and have a 170mm fork for it for those trips.... which is a great idea and i think i will try it to see how it works and make a video about it.... ;-)
The Spectral is a great bike, but needs some descend to have lots of fun, i prefer the neuron for sure if im mainly riding flatish stuff. Whats great is i took the bike extreme to find the limits.
Thank you for the great video. It would be nice to see a comparable range test between the models.
lets see what i can do....
Exactly the comparisons I was looking for! Would love to also see your thoughts with the Torque ON
I will try that as well....
@@alexbiketester Sweet! Thanks!
This channel should have way more subs
thanks for the kudos ;-)
Amazing Video! I have the Neuron On 7 and I simply love the bike! Like you said his good for having fun rides with friends ,etc. But I'm considering upgrading just to have more range. My battery is a 630w and a range in profile 2 stock gave me a max of 102km and 1700 meters high. But that's the limit. And I still have fun but after 5h+ of riding and managing the Battery i was exhausted. But Done more that 2000km on the neuron and in my opinion is an underrated bike! If this bike was able to have a range extender, or a longer battery i never though of changing for a long time. Keep Ripping! 🤟
Theroy says the new Bosch range extender will work....
@@alexbiketester really ? Going to check that out! Thank you for the suggestion!
But on the Shimano EP8 motor?
on the bosch for the neuron.
@@PedroMartinsEnduro
@@alexbiketester mine is shimano powered
Great video
Thanks for the video comparison. I’ve debated between the three for purchase. I heard the battery for the Neuron-on isn’t removable but is it replaceable in the future down the road?
Yes you can replace it, just undo four bolts and it comes out as motor hinges out of the way.
wich bike do you prefer i like the neuron
I've got the Neuron, I guess it depends of the stuff you'll be riding the most and your stile. Were I live (Mallorca/Spain) 140 ml of travel is enough
One of the best comparison video's on YT. Thnx a lot.
Watched it like 3 times as I am in the market for my first (e)-mtb.
With the summer sale in mind, 5100eu for the Neuron cf7, 4200eu for the strive underdog, what would you do?
Strive Underdog!
Circling back at this .. spectral on CF7 it’s at 3800$ vs 5000 for underdog.. trying to make a decision this weekend
@@ZCarshowSpectral will be more as there’s only the 900w battery available, think its another £300. I went for the Neuron on as that was also discounted so ended up being less…
looking for my first emtb, i was a mtb marathon guy but now im 30kg over my normal weight , im a trek fan but their prices are ridiculous now, a think a neuron on 8 is the best choice to me, if we can put a fox 36 with 150mm on the front the bike will be top
Yes the neuron is a great value bike. If you just ride, your weight will come down.Just upgrade the tyre, @mbr test editor is sat next to me right now, and he agrees, my test bike has vee tyre. thovker casings go well.
@@alexbiketester thank you for the reply , tell me one thing in your videos about the neuron you said that in front its 150 mm but in canyon site it is 140mm and know its a personal taste but is the blue colour on the neuron is nice ?? another thing , im 1.73 cm and 74 cms and the canyon chart says its an S .. strange for me to have a bike with S size greetings from 🇵🇹🇵🇹
yes i got the 140mm wrong, the colour is good. I would say m, @@rodrigus1672
Hello Alex,
Thank you for this very interesting video.
There are currently great discounts on the Canyon website.
the spectral on cf 9 is 5500€ and the neuron on cf 9 is 6000€.
I will be tempted by the spectral which is 2000€ on sale but your opinion on the neuron also makes me think. the weight of the spectral is 24.5kg and it seems to me that the weight of the neuron which is lower is an advantage? What do you think is the best deal? what is the best value for money for you?
THANKS
hey thanks fro watching! much appreciated. As I said int he video, a lot depends on your personal use style. The neuron is super capaabl;e if you are not doing any Enduro stuff and very upgradable in teh future if you want to get rowdy down the line.
Hi there
Thanks for the comparisons, this is incredibly helpful! I am pretty certain that I'll buy a Canyon E-MTB due to the relatively low prices. Generally, I like a nimble and playful bike, I like to jump a lot. I will use the E-MTB for my local trails, which are essentially what you'd expect: Small jumps, tight corners, not too gnarly, etc. At the bottom of one local trail, there's a jump line however with quite a bit bigger jumps that are easily 4-5 meters in length. Is this something the Spectral can still handle or would you recommend going for the Strive to not take the risk of damaging the bike all too easily? Thanks in advance!
Spectral can still do that.
hello, is it possible to do an autonomy test between these 3 bikes? THANKS.
i can, yes, but what kind of riding you want done? offroad, road? how much climbing? The spectral on i already have something in the bag I can use...
@@alexbiketester in fact we often do committed outings with 50-60 km with 1600 seas at altitude, so I'm looking for the best compromise in terms of battery power to be comfortable. thanks very much.
@@manuvince5850 for this i would choose the Spectral ON.
@@alexbiketester thanks a lot.
What is your height and did you size down on the strive on, the reach is put there. I’ve been thinking about the strive but the reach has me worried.
183, I used the L .
This will be my first e-bike. I currently ride a ripmo af and I'm stuck between the spectral and the strive. I won't be doing alot of park so I'm looking for a do everything bike. From this video I'm thinking the spectral is a better fit. Any thoughts? And is the bosch motor in the strive that much better than the shimano? Thanks
Do anything the Spectral would be ideal. For this type of use the Shimano motor is good, the new bikes come with the 801 motor which is good! tried it the other day.
Would love the torque on to be added to the comparison
there is a video on the channel about the torque.
Where did u take the video? In the Alps?
Alpenini - further south.
StriveOn for me but it is a disappointment that Canyon does not sell its e bikes to Greek customers...I am heading to Orbea Wild or new Propain Ekano instead
Problems with import? Service?
@@alexbiketester Yes, they do not sell their e bikes, but only their regular ones...and other countries are excluded as well besides Greece
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 Thats rough.... considering greece is EU, doesnt make much sense... we should ask them why?
@@alexbiketester Rough for sure...if you could help so that they change their policy, that would be great and there are a lot of people here who would be much obliged! What is the point shipping normal bikes and not e bikes? Please, do your best so that a solution can be found! Cheers!
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 I will tell the powers that be about it, at least find out the reason why....
Strive has Bosch moto but spectral has ep8 and Gou said it has also Bosch. I think Bosch is better
The standard CX is "better" than the ep88, but not the ep801
@@alexbiketester Why it’s „better? Which motor is on spectral?
you always do beter videos
Why test ebikes on downhill with lift. I bought an e-bike to climb and ride all mountain where there are no lifts.😮
The ride is up and down, the lifts are a part of the park, the lower part of the trail was a climb.
Ebikes are versatile and can be used for all types of riding.
The Stive :ON has a big problem o the BatteryLatch, that develop play, unpluging and turning of the bike
It is affecting all bikes, and deffect will appear accordingly to ride style.
Canyon nor Bosch has a solution, and Customers are strandled with a deffective product.
Cuidado
Las Strive :on vienen con un problema de deseno en lo sistema de cerrar la bateria, gañando huelga e desconectando la bateria.
Canyon lo sabe, pero solo cambia la cerradura y poco más. Tarde o temperano, lo irá ocorrer nuevamente.
If you have an issue with a bike, get in contact with their customer services, they will resolve it. I expect a fix if you have this issue.
It's not only me or my Strive :ON
It's the design used to mount the battery
Waiting for a replacement latch, that is the same, and will occur the same (as it did on other Strive :ON )
@@tmstriveon i see what canyon say. I will ask the designer.
or just get a Specialized Levo ... and win
I will get one and compare them....
All those bikes would be good for the condition ur riding on and you didn’t even do a climbing test smh 🤦♂️
I have done multiple climbing tests, but its very subjective, the neuron part of the video has riding on flat trails which also go up and down.
Specifically I can address this point in the third video commentary i I mention in the description. But each bike has been tested by me on the channel, so you can find that info in those tests. All three climb very similarly so no one will be disappointed, however the descent capabilities have far more influence on the overall feel of the bikes than the climbing in my experience.
@@alexbiketester like I said all 3 bikes are capable of climbing well and going down the same as well and the performance of every bike is good for every trail and rider
@@topchoice1621 I wouldn't say for every trail. I deliberately took them to a trail that will test the vertical capacity of the geometry let's say. In those conditions you could feel the difference clearly with each bike. The Strive could fly over stuff that you had to think about with the Neuron, which was out of its comfort zone. All good bikes, there is no perfect way to compare in my opinion after years and years of comparing bikes and test riding. So much subjective stuff going on.