WEATHER APPS FOR OFFSHORE SAILORS - A Meteorologist's Tool Bag

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  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 4 роки тому +16

    Nick! This episode is gold. Thanks for your hard work and knowledge. You're THE guy to do this kind of video. Please let us look over your shoulder in the future as you consider the weather on future trips.

  • @VictoriaWargaming
    @VictoriaWargaming 4 роки тому +40

    Thanks for this video. I am going through the whole 'collect all the information' phase and videos like this are extremely helpful.

  • @jasonwoodall2371
    @jasonwoodall2371 3 роки тому

    Keep this coming. Ventusky and windy are windy are great! I’ll pay for apps when I start going offshore. Love this info. Keep it going

  • @everythingexplained
    @everythingexplained 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for a very informative video!
    All complex systems are interesting and it's easy to forget the knowledge required to understand them, whether it's weather, a stock exchange, power grid distribution or fluids in a jet engine. Thanks for sharing!

  • @SirCharles12357
    @SirCharles12357 4 роки тому +6

    This is the video I've been waiting for, knowing that you're a meteorologist. Fantastic job, great information, well presented! Thanks!! [Edit: forgot to mention: Loved the intro talking point about the dynamics of the two largest fluids on earth. Nice perspective!]

  • @cabrissonb444
    @cabrissonb444 4 роки тому +20

    Must admit that a lot of the info (especially the interview portion) was over my head as not educated enough on the topic to follow! I would love you to walk us through some passage planning scenarios using predictwind and your thoughts process as you determine whether or not to go/when to go.

    • @benlindner5285
      @benlindner5285 4 роки тому +1

      I'm interested in really long passage planning, like West Coast N America to S. Pacific. Is it even possible to plan that long range? Do you just sail and tweak your routing as you get updates?

    • @charonstyxferryman
      @charonstyxferryman 4 роки тому

      @@benlindner5285 Quote you ; " Is it even possible to plan that long range?"
      If possible, I would harbor hopping, and make passage planning decisions as you go.
      Other than that there are the recurring patterns.
      Summer weather is better than winter weather.
      There is a cyclone/typhoon/hurricane (⇽ those words have the same meaning) season, and the monsoon season as well.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      I’ll try to do more of that. There is some passage planning in some videos from a year and a half ago....check the channel, I think the thumbnail on one of them is “Is you go How Fast?”

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Yes Ben, on long passages, you wait for the proper time of year when average conditions are most favorable, then you head off with a good window and tweak along the way.

    • @mikemessina6710
      @mikemessina6710 4 роки тому

      YES YES YES, Please give the break down as if explaining to a (idiot) child. lol... Very Tough digesting this when not familiar at all. Thanks my friend,,, LOVE the content!

  • @iwashpowercleaning7724
    @iwashpowercleaning7724 2 роки тому

    This is the best video across the platform that I’ve watched about the subject by FAR. Great job Nick, Fair winds for us all…

  • @danielboughton3624
    @danielboughton3624 Рік тому

    Saw the beginning and thought that looks like the PNW coastal range and sure enough... Fun discussion on the weather app and models at the end. Very valuable to get into the geek level detail questions with the designer. Having sailed in the sound and Hood's canal the thermals are always a thing. Sailing near land mass especially with mountains and the cool water below you learn quickly to pay attention. You can run up/down a coastline avoiding general offshore wind/current trends if there is a local variation that is favorable. This is also true on the east coast where I am now. I get interior wind patterns plus thermals until I get closer to the ocean and then there is confused wind and then the offshore trend dominates.

  • @Daniel-lf3vj
    @Daniel-lf3vj 4 роки тому

    excellent my wife and I are going to go board our first sailboat next week and sail it down to florida from new york, very nervous your video helps alot with the detailed information you provided. Thank you very much

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      That’s quite a voyage! Fair winds!

  • @johnburkey1135
    @johnburkey1135 4 роки тому

    best weather video for cruisers ive seen - bravo

  • @othereyesediting6783
    @othereyesediting6783 Рік тому +1

    Overly technical for me, but I'm sure it's a wealth of info for those sailors
    able to use the apps and tools.

  • @Dave-SailsAway
    @Dave-SailsAway 4 роки тому

    Best sailing vid I've seen in well over a month. Very informative.

  • @timmitchell8784
    @timmitchell8784 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely awesome. Thank you for going so deep into weather. That helped us understand weather so much better.
    Thanks
    Timmy

  • @kevsworld69
    @kevsworld69 4 роки тому

    Weather novices have been educated by masters in this video, for which I sincerely appreciate and thank you! Perhaps this is an intro to a few weather classes by our favorite offshore team.
    Would you consider minimizing our weather naivete with a walk through of a route planning through interesting patterns?
    This long awaited video is awesome!
    Thank you

  • @donhamblen8060
    @donhamblen8060 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. We have used Predict Wind standard for cruising from Pensacola to the Keys/Bahamas for the last three years. The passage planning is great for picking the window (from four sequential days). After picking the day, you have the four models to review for the passage plan. (The CAPE model is also helpful to forecast the potential convective activity.) Predict Wind is very accurate and it's fun to compare the models along the passage.

  • @RealRyanFlynn
    @RealRyanFlynn 4 роки тому +1

    Great tips. I’ve always had a fascination with the weather and the sea, and even took a couple of meteorology and oceanography courses in university when I was attempting to steer myself for a commission with the Air Force 10 years ago. This really puts in perspective just how little I scratched the surface, but I may just get some more courses under my belt for better understanding the nuances of forecasting from boundary conditions. Thanks for the resource recommendations!

  • @peterlitchford13
    @peterlitchford13 4 роки тому +1

    This is a much needed amplification of weather tools available to sailors today. Personally, I would put that information ahead of GPS based navigation when off shore! Well done!

  • @FtLMale1
    @FtLMale1 4 роки тому

    Wow, a lot to digest. And the comments echoed many of my own thoughts and questions.
    Now I realize I’ll need to budget time (learning curve) and money for one of the most important ingredients I’m seeking when sailing offshore... Good Weather!

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      It's a huge subject, but it is literally the whole ball of wax in terms of good times vs bad times on a small boat. Or any boat.

  • @JayBr61
    @JayBr61 4 роки тому

    I watch you guys, and I watch Delos. I really appreciate that you don't try to imitate Delos. I watched two episodes on another channel, and they even danced around to the Delos theme song. I love what Delos does, but I envision myself sailing more like you guys. Love these in-depth discussions of sailing topics. Fair winds and following seas!

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks! I don’t think we’d do a very good Delos. They are way cooler than us. Lol

    • @JayBr61
      @JayBr61 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys Way cooler than this old dog, too. And I'm good with that.

  • @clearthedek
    @clearthedek 4 роки тому

    Nick, wanted to let you know that I totally geeked out on this. I’ve been using PredictWind for a while now is my go to and it was great affirmation hearing from both you and the founder of predict wind. Weather is never a constant in the power of mother nature is always awesome, so thank you so much for doing this video

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      I’m glad Jordie. Jack is a good guy. Could geek out with him for hours.

  • @josephpaulson4479
    @josephpaulson4479 4 роки тому +3

    Nick, thanks for all the amazing content! I'm reading your book right now and it is great. Keep up the good work.

  • @pleclerc1
    @pleclerc1 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video guys. As always, I learn a lot from watching your channel, so thank you for taking the time to produce these super informative videos.

    • @pleclerc1
      @pleclerc1 4 роки тому +1

      You know a video showing us how you read the winds and seas on your devices for short and long distance trips would be pretty cool IMO :)

  • @donb4386
    @donb4386 4 роки тому +1

    Well that was fascinating and underscored how little I know about the weather or the wind models (Predict Wind) I use. Learning more will become another of my winter projects. Thanks for doing this.

  • @jimwilson9005
    @jimwilson9005 4 роки тому

    Again thank you very much for the added information I learned more today than I have in years about the weather

  • @FrankConforti
    @FrankConforti 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this “deep dive” into what goes into forecasting. Despite the complexity of dealing with so many variables you make it easier for the layperson to understand just what goes into accurate modeling and forecasts. Thank you again

  • @thewedword
    @thewedword 4 роки тому

    Weather Professor Nick, great video, excellent guest, alumnus and sailor, another weather headjust like you, thanks this information and insight makes us all better sailors! Love it man! Thanks for sharing

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      Capt. Prof. Nick Esq. LOL. Thanks DJ!

  • @cavcom
    @cavcom 3 роки тому

    I'm looking for my first sail boat now and am studying all the info I can find. Wanted to thank you for all of this and have been following you for a bit now. Maybe someday ill see you in a warm sunny harbor in the Caribbean.

  • @carlosvallejo4926
    @carlosvallejo4926 4 роки тому

    Hello Nick
    If there is a library of must keep must watch videos, this one will be number one.
    That was one of the most interesting videos I have ever watched. If I was a fan of meteorology now I am addicted.
    Thank you , amazing knowledge.
    Cheers from NYC

  • @TraneFrancks
    @TraneFrancks 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, Nick. I hadn't realized that there is a free level of Windy. I just downloaded it, despite not having a boat yet, to flesh out the information for the typhoon season here in Tokyo. It's fascinating to see the winds in Windy and compare it to the track and forecast discussion on CIMSS Tropical Cyclones.

  • @chrisbennett5510
    @chrisbennett5510 3 роки тому

    Fantastic information! Thx to you for sharing your knowledge, insights, and experience. Cheers.

  • @JibeTalking
    @JibeTalking 4 роки тому

    Thanks Nick, great review of Predict Wind, I have downloaded it and use it. As a retired U.S. Army Intelligence Officer we briefed commanders on weather effects on battlefield operating systems, terrain, flight and and of course troops on the ground. As well I have a minor in geography from Southern Illinois University which had a weather component to it. I am a bit of a weather nerd so, I love what your are talking about and understand just how important weather data is before you go on voyage across the ocean. I am coming to you from Turks and Caicos, Seven Stars Resort and Spa. Doing some Scuba tomorrow and am looking forward to getting under the water. But had to look at the weather data to get back out on the water... Good look to getting back to Clarity when you do. Be safe and we look forward to your next videos.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Hey Ron, I (Nick) was a geography undergrad after my meteorology program was cut by Measure 5 legislation. Love geomorphology myself. Enjoy T&C! Say hi to the fishes for us.

  • @glennedwards1449
    @glennedwards1449 4 роки тому +5

    Judging from that interview I think Nick is in love! Definitely a Bromance going on there :)

  • @sylvaingregoire9008
    @sylvaingregoire9008 4 роки тому +3

    i watched and listened twice and now realize that i need a weather terminology dictionnary, so if this is the intro to weather mapping, weather 101 will be most interesting (i used will be) , because im hopeful. Just noticed that your eye has completly healed, im very happy about that although i kinda miss the pirate patch, and lastly i miss the yatch rock, great work, stay safe.

  • @JohnCornellier
    @JohnCornellier 4 роки тому +4

    As others have mentioned, would love to see a "weather 101" episode or even mini-series. From a theoretical introduction, to global systems, to the effects of local terrain. I wish I could look at the jet-stream-level map and have some idea of what local effect that will have.

  • @vincentbarkley9121
    @vincentbarkley9121 4 роки тому

    You knocked this one out of the park. Excellent. Thank you.

  • @martineisenschmied435
    @martineisenschmied435 4 роки тому

    This was a very helpful video. I had seen other videos on weather apps, but not with this kind of detail. Thank you.

  • @VERTICALWisdom
    @VERTICALWisdom 4 роки тому +1

    Your obvious passion for sure. Bit above us mere sailors - would be nice to see a series of short videos on a specific decision making process given a set of conditions. Because of this ... we decided to do xyz. Thanks for the great content.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Good idea. When we get underway again on Clarity in a couple weeks, I am going to do a bit more of that...or will try. I do get the feeling that this is boring stuff for a lot of people...but it shouldn't be...absolutely critical to good trips.

    • @VERTICALWisdom
      @VERTICALWisdom 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheOKellys Don't believe sailors find it boring at all, but short takes on how you process the info for a voyage is practical and we can all learn from it.

  • @TheoSmith249
    @TheoSmith249 4 роки тому

    I used to use Herb Hilgenberg, via SSB for Atlantic/Caribbean routing back in the early 90's. He was based in Burlington Ontario, and held a check in Net every day for years routing sailors. We always sent him a nice 'stipend' every yr. Thanks for this vid. It's excellent to have an experienced users perspective.

  • @davidolson7575
    @davidolson7575 4 роки тому +1

    Another fantastic video, I’m so happy that you Able to get the interview and you did an awesome job. I’d like to see you do more on this type of video in again thanks so much be safe and take care

  • @williamediger3193
    @williamediger3193 4 роки тому

    Thanks so much for this well produced and structured video. As a long time pilot I have slightly more understanding than the average Joe (only slightly) but of course my predictive capacity is improved by the average very short window needed for a safe flight and restricted to the areas well above the surface. People rarely appreciate the incredible complexity of these models and the dependency on limited data collection ability especially offshore! I have only sailed offshore a few times and that was a number of years ago when these models and apps were not available. It was hold your wet finger up and look at the wind vane and barometer. Scary stuff sometimes. Thanks again for the video and the info on the available predictive software that can now significantly improve both my knowledge and my peace of mind. Stay Safe.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      I’m hoping that these weather/sailing apps for cruisers evolve to where Foreflight is! Amazing power with these tablets in our hands

    • @williamediger3193
      @williamediger3193 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys Absolutely! It is wonderful the age we live in with the rapid advancements. The old Arthur C. Clarke adage holds true, "Any sufficiently advanced technology will be interpreted as magic to the natives". Welcome native!

  • @steveturansky9031
    @steveturansky9031 4 роки тому +13

    I guess I need the Weather Interpretation for Dummies package - The one that comes with the dartboard and darts.

    • @kaylaandjimbryant8258
      @kaylaandjimbryant8258 4 роки тому +1

      I can recommend a couple of older books that are useful to cruisers that we have found helpful:
      "Mariner's Weather Handbook" and "Surviving the Storm", both from 1999 by the Dashews (Steve and Linda). The latter should be in every cruiser's library. Although we have some nicer tools now than weatherfax (still important), his advice and case examples are still good, imho.

  • @stevewildman1045
    @stevewildman1045 4 роки тому

    As a pilot, you use all available weather tools, and in my opinion you can't ever learn enough on the variables of changing weather, wind and clear shear.
    Thanks for sharing this info as I live just a stones throw from the ice near Lockwood Folly inlet, NC coast.
    I will explore the mentioned programs.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Do a bit of flying when I can as well. Luxury we have on the boat weather-wise is a little more time to consider things, usually less risk of icing, and with Clarity....unlimited fuel.... :) Fly well my friend.

  • @oceansquatch1481
    @oceansquatch1481 4 роки тому +3

    Great video Nick! Really appreciate the drill down on weather and route planning. Might there be a book or video course in the future?

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      I need more time than I have. I need another Nick....who will work for what I pay myself. lol

  • @sjf1stgrade699
    @sjf1stgrade699 4 роки тому

    Excellent Info. Thanks so much for doing this video. Well done!

  • @pbristow
    @pbristow 4 роки тому

    Excellent video - thank you! Unless I missed it, I don't think you mention the free portion of PredictWind, which is all we use. The PWE and PWG models are available down to 8km resolution for free on both phone and web/laptop.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Right! And really, that's all we need. We go Pro so we can get downloads over Iridium.

  • @benlindner5285
    @benlindner5285 4 роки тому

    Excellent and very helpful! I planned on a GO and PW so it is nice to know I am on the right track. I sail for the S. Pacific in March '21!

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Hope we see you out there Ben!

  • @jamelweatherspoon363
    @jamelweatherspoon363 4 роки тому

    Very informative. Would like to see you do a follow-up video focusing on voyage planning using the apps. Really like how professionally you are invested in this topic. Really showed what to expect from these apps. I want more! Saved in my favorites.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Thanks Jamel. Will try to integrate into the vlogs this season

  • @MCMaxwell100
    @MCMaxwell100 4 роки тому

    Thank you Nick for these weather videos. Very well done, informative, and timely!

  • @giovannifiorentino8947
    @giovannifiorentino8947 4 роки тому

    Nick, great video about life importance matter for sailing. Please keep including the short one minute introduction to weather forecast and rout with clouds type identification on each sea passage. It makes a useful practice.

  • @dancampbell8149
    @dancampbell8149 4 роки тому

    Very well done thank you. I took a weather course in boaters university and this helped connect some dots.

  • @JJ82IOE
    @JJ82IOE 4 роки тому

    Wind guru is fantastic!

  • @thorcloud5172
    @thorcloud5172 4 роки тому

    Great video thank you. Lots of information that i was going to research.

  • @tvonzweck
    @tvonzweck 4 роки тому

    Best book I've ever found on weather - Modern Marine Weather by David Burch, recommended by those who have gone before me. It blows me away how much more information he provides and in such a way that if I read it some of it a few times, I comprehend. What a great video you did. Really enjoyed the interview. Q: what does it mean when a model "blows up" or "runs away"? I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. I have started the PW / Iridium Go purchase process no less than 3 times in the last few months and then pulled back. I'll check out your affiliate link.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      There are a lot of positive feedback processes in the real atmosphere...”nonlinearities” we call them. Too many and too detailed to get into here. But bottom line, in the real atmosphere, little things can have tremendous effects. So the geniuses who build these models try to capture these nonlinear processes, but they can be “too sensitive” in some circumstances and the model solutions get out of control with feedback loops sometimes. That’s what we mean by blowing up. Now this happens with all models all the time, and so there are “smoothing” algorithms applied at some grid scales and time scales in an effort to keep things reigned in....but that can go too far as well.... So the best models for any particular kind of initial conditions are best at “attenuating” these nonlinear processes realistically. It is a very difficult task for any model.

  • @torstenhansen4308
    @torstenhansen4308 4 роки тому

    Nice to see you geek out👍. Great job.

  • @forsuccessforlife7441
    @forsuccessforlife7441 4 роки тому +1

    Nicely done! As always, very informative!

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      Appreciate it! Glad it was helpful!

  • @mandmmilling3716
    @mandmmilling3716 4 роки тому

    This video was great!!! exactly what i needed for my up coming trip up the west coast to the Dalles.

  • @vxnova1
    @vxnova1 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing , love these types of videos, Note that Ventusky is now $2.99

  • @PaulBeauchemin
    @PaulBeauchemin 4 роки тому

    Great video. The interview took me back to discussions in Chem Engineering classes

  • @wingnut2339
    @wingnut2339 4 роки тому

    As a fellow met, I found this video informative and entertaining. People would be surprised to find how many mets are unable to communicate wx info to the non-met people.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      It is a really fine line to walk, is it not? Too little detail and it is cloud talk, too much and it is matrix algebra and PDEs. Lol

    • @wingnut2339
      @wingnut2339 4 роки тому

      ​@@TheOKellys Not everyone enjoys reading Holton :) The tools nowadays make it quite easy for non-mets to make informed wx decisions.

  • @denniscaptain8635
    @denniscaptain8635 4 роки тому +3

    Fantastic, you should post this in aviation blogs as well.
    Also for your pilot friends, what can you pull out of ForeFlight useable for sailing?

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +3

      Man, it is completely different. Everything in aviation is soooo much more structured, from nav to weather to planning.... If people had to operate boats like you do planes, no one would sail.

    • @clarencereddick2811
      @clarencereddick2811 4 роки тому +2

      I agree on the structure comments by Nick! When I was just a VFR (visual flight rules) pilot it was more fun. When I became IFR and type rated in a jet I was safer but flying became less about flying and more about procedures and weather.
      As far as Foreflight, there would be (as Nick stated) more data to add to your data pile. But for what (I think) you would get out of it and for the effort likely a minimal benefit.
      So for me 2 thoughts here, if conditions are dicey enough to substantiate digging into foreflight one probably should make the “no go” decision and wait for a better window. On the other hand, if I was stuck in a really bad situation I would use any data available.
      Lastly, one thing I find very useful in aviation is Pireps. With weather forecast already being analyzed I find actual accounts of reported conditions along my route very helpful. In aviation We have such a shorter time of exposure. I’m not yet experienced or have a solid education in weather for sailing.
      I see that many Pireps my be used in the models supplied now. Could be a benefit to have current reports plotted on the map for consideration?
      Another thing aviation has available is routes used by other pilots recently. FLTPLAN make suggestions on routes base upon other flights made recently. Possibly this is a consideration already given inside PredictWind’s routing? Idk. Nick finds these things out!
      Great video and thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I’m not ready but I can promise I’ll be watching all your video’s on weather and gaining more knowledge until I’m more confident!!

    • @clarencereddick2811
      @clarencereddick2811 4 роки тому

      ForeFlight is an awesome app by the way. 👍

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      ShipReps are a thing already, and I talked to a gent from NHC about a program to incorporate more of those from small vessels. No timeline, but that really will make a difference. Suggested routes....now there could be issues with that as bottom contours change a lot over time, especially in shallow areas. Not so much an issue in the skies....

    • @clarencereddick2811
      @clarencereddick2811 4 роки тому

      That will be very useful to everyone but possibly more value to someone like me learning. If I’m lucky enough to experience doing a crossing it would reassuring to see actual reports substantiate the weather I’m pulling down.
      Actual observations are valuable and mostly very accurate but caution still needs to be taken. Example: I was descending into Dallas, was given by the tower while on final, the aircraft just front of me were reporting taking on ice from 2500’ to 2000’ melting and shedding off after descending through 2000’ and before landing. We took ice starting at 2000’ and all the way to the ground. Landed with ice.
      Lesson: information is good but still not guaranteed. This was maybe 5-10 minutes difference in time.

  • @aleroxit
    @aleroxit 4 роки тому

    Weather geeking! Nice!

  • @SailingPauHana
    @SailingPauHana 4 роки тому

    Great episode. Very informative. I wish all of my hobbies were not weather dependent (sailing, flying..etc.). I'm curious if you've seen forecasts that were way off....so off that it was dangerous?

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Yes, sometimes. There have been several documented cases of "bomb cyclone" formation which all of the models miss. We were actually caught in one of those staying in at Lucaya many years before the sailing adventures. Mostly though, I see models overdoing it in some frontal situations and "overreacting."

  • @jeremiahjahn
    @jeremiahjahn 4 роки тому

    Well, that was just awesome. Thanks for the info. I find software generally easier to use once I understand what the developer's intentions are. So getting it straight from the horse's mouth makes predict wind's features and foibles far clearer. To me the key was that it's really about showing the range of possibilities to be prepared for.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      exactly. anyone who says..."hey the model was wrong"....just doesn't understand how models work or how to forecast. For the foreseeable future, a human being is required to make a good forecast. That will change eventually, but for now....a (skilled) person needs to know the limitations of each model and the range of possibilities. This video wasn't really about forecast, but maybe that's a topic for another video.

    • @jeremiahjahn
      @jeremiahjahn 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys yes please!

  • @bearparts
    @bearparts 4 роки тому

    Ok, now I know I need to study more on this... Thanks for the great info.

  • @Ron-zr6se
    @Ron-zr6se 4 роки тому

    Very useful information and once gain a great video.

  • @olavthyvold2288
    @olavthyvold2288 4 роки тому

    Very helpful. A bit of a geeky :) conversation with the guy from PredictWind but very interesting nonetheless. I think an aspect that the models/discussion seem to miss or omit is the effect of bottom topography, ocean current on sea state. I could be wrong on this but I never hear it discussed as a factor in the ocean sailing models. I would love to see a practical discussion of that because sea state more that wind is what makes a passage difficult for most sailors/crews/families. A passage can be great and then a few hours of horrible seas can completely frighten a crew. In many ways the likelihood of bad/short/steep waves is something that can be anticipated by understanding bottom topography. If its anticipated it become less of a "out of nowhere" event. Anyway, thanks for an informative video.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Coastal contour has a much larger effect than bottom topography except with really big waves or really shallow water, at least on the "open" ocean. That being said, I am not familiar enough with the mechanics of ocean models to tell you at what scales these factors become important. What I can speak to is the effect of currents on wave heights. Wind opposing current can make for really big seas if both are really significant and the modeling of these things is still quite course. I expect significant improvements in the coming years as supercomputers become faster and cheaper.

    • @olavthyvold2288
      @olavthyvold2288 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys What I'm talking about is longer passages over routes where sudden changes in ocean depth would play a factor in sea state. Take for example a passage from Puerto Rico to the Bahamas. The Navidad bank or the the Silver Bank are places that I would avoid in rough weather. I never hear people talk about these considerations in voyage planning. Sea mounts and rapid changes in ocean depth occur all over the place. "Beware the 100 fathom line". :)

    • @olavthyvold2288
      @olavthyvold2288 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys To follow up - the lovely thing about cruising is going to new places. The scary thing about cruising is going to new places. In familiar places we know where waves or conditions are tough. How do we figure that out in new places. Learning to "read the bottom" is, I think, an important skill in anticipating or avoiding tough conditions. Just my 2 cents worth. Take care. :)

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Oh, for sure those are tricky spots. Seems a boat (not necessarily a cruising boat) is lost on Silver Bank every other year. We’ve had crazy waves over seamounts a couple of times. Once was Thetis Bank off Cape Lazaro in the Pacific. Those were unusually large seas to begin with, and the survey of Thetis is incomplete. I know a fair bit about gravity waves, and the bottom doesn’t effect waves until dept is about twice the wave height. However, what does happen around seamounts and other big shoals are strong and changing currents, which like I said earlier, can have a tremendous effect on waves. Yes, the new places and new faces are a big draw for us as well.

  • @scottseaman6247
    @scottseaman6247 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the info, just downloaded the Windy app

  • @johnwilliamson6624
    @johnwilliamson6624 4 роки тому

    Great informative video and thank you.

  • @lyndajenkins9145
    @lyndajenkins9145 4 роки тому +1

    I'm fascinated with atmospheric science and would like to learn more about forecasting, without going back to graduate school. This video was very helpful. Do you have additional advice for developing a theoretical underpinning of forecasting?

  • @bsparks3672
    @bsparks3672 4 роки тому

    GREAT video! Based on your experience at what duration of passage does adding Iridium or other satellite service become very important for updating weather while underway? A forecast obtained at departure might be great for the first two days, but then accuracy would progressively decline.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      We feel pretty naked without satellite connection for more than a couple days. But it depends on the time or year and location. In the trade winds, I’d probably feel ok with a three or four day passage without satellite, but in the substropics or mid latitudes, more than 72 hours without weather would bother me a little.

  • @Pippinstravels
    @Pippinstravels 4 роки тому

    This is a great video, I think ill need to watch it again or maybe three times.

  • @sailingkaimana9776
    @sailingkaimana9776 4 роки тому

    Fantastic video thanks Nick! And yes, the Aussie accent is the best 😂😉

  • @dariusseo480
    @dariusseo480 2 роки тому

    Really thoughtful discussion

  • @miked5563
    @miked5563 4 роки тому

    Thank you, Master weather wisconsin pro. Actually, just thank you. Best feature seems to be wind and tide option. Thanks for sharing.

  • @garethjones1111
    @garethjones1111 4 роки тому

    Thank you for doing this episode I found it really helpful and informative.

  • @tomd.3082
    @tomd.3082 4 роки тому

    Excellent episode! A little off topic but, I didn't know your boat was running for a political office in my area. The political sign on the side of the road said "Vote for Clarity".

  • @vanessaaaron1035
    @vanessaaaron1035 4 роки тому

    I still think it would be great to collaborate on trying to find a format to do a primer on basic weather. I’m reminded of a time when my son (I think he was five at the time) asked me, “mom, what makes wind?” My inner weather nerd came out and answered, “unequal heating of the Earth’s surface.” My son did not ask me weather questions again for a couple of years. Is that a mom win or a mom fail?
    Great vid this week. I always enjoy the weather ones!

    • @charonstyxferryman
      @charonstyxferryman 4 роки тому

      There is an interesting book called
      *Modern Marine Weather: From Time-honored Traditional Knowledge to the Latest Technology*
      ISBN-10 : 0914025589
      ISBN-13 : 978-0914025580
      Editorial : Starpath Publications (30 marzo 2018)
      The book on amazon.es
      www.amazon.es/Modern-Marine-Weather-Time-honored-Traditional/dp/0914025589/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=Modern+Marine+Weather

  • @zetetimm
    @zetetimm 4 роки тому

    Great video Nick!!! I love the background #missyousugar

  • @RiverWoods111
    @RiverWoods111 4 роки тому

    This is very interesting! Since moving to the South where I am now in Tornado Alley and tropical storms, I have really taken an interest in the weather and what it is doing, so I know what to expect. I consider this to be my training! LMBO

  • @retepekooc
    @retepekooc 4 роки тому

    Thank you,it went through my mind while watching ,how would it work if boats at sea and other could send back basic temp,wind,pressure in real time to a modelling centre,maybe it’s already done

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      I talked to a gentleman from NHC at the Miami boat show this year....that very thing is in the works!

    • @retepekooc
      @retepekooc 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys Thank you ,interesting ,a wonderful time of technology.Jus an aside ,but l am not a patreon or anything ,but l really do appreciate they way you both aknowledge. Comments and likes,l am sure you are very busy,but it it does add something to the polite and thoughtful people you appear to be on your videos that l enjoy ,thanks again

  • @kaylaandjimbryant8258
    @kaylaandjimbryant8258 4 роки тому

    I can recommend a couple of older books that are useful to cruisers that we have found helpful:
    "Mariner's Weather Handbook" and "Surviving the Storm", both from 1999 by the Dashews (Steve and Linda). The latter should be in every cruiser's library. Although we have some nicer tools now than weatherfax (still important), his advice and case examples are still good, imho.

  • @It-b-Blair
    @It-b-Blair 3 роки тому

    Great gratitude!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @svsavinggrace8331
    @svsavinggrace8331 4 роки тому

    This is a fantastic video. Thank you so much.

  • @EricEversonArtAndDesign
    @EricEversonArtAndDesign 4 роки тому

    Excellent video! The interview was interesting to listen to, but I got lost in the jargon more than once. Still, I appreciate that you went reasonably deep in a short amount of time. I'm a weather newB, so my question is basic: When modeling over bodies of water, do they look at the currents bringing warm waters that may radiate heat?

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      Well, I am not a modeller but I believe the ocean surface parameterizations are integral. How that is handled exactly, I am not sure, but the latent heat energy of the ocean is a primary driving force.

  • @bilsabo
    @bilsabo 4 роки тому

    What a great video, Thank you for this!

  • @Peter_Herrman
    @Peter_Herrman 4 роки тому

    Great stuff Nick! I'm sure Megan appreciated a week off from the limelight. ;o) Next week, sewing machine comparison!

  • @karlmartinlind5070
    @karlmartinlind5070 4 роки тому

    Thanks, super interesting and useful - and the bromance, funny 😆

  • @burlms
    @burlms 3 роки тому

    Super helpful, thank you!

  • @Papaondas
    @Papaondas 4 роки тому

    fantastic video, u are a * Nick, calm and clear explanation of a very important subject , thanks for charing your knowledge

  • @wetwaterfish
    @wetwaterfish 4 роки тому +2

    Hi guys! Thanks for all your usefull content in your videos. I see the only main difference between the standard and professional package is the Ocean/Tidal Currents feature. In your opinion, is it worth paying double for that one feature? (a circumnavigation is in future plans)

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +3

      Hey there! Other difference is the 1km resolution model data and more extensive gribs from ECMWF, including wave model. Both the ocean and 1km data is going to be very hard to access offshore due to file sizes. However, if you are going to be operating around strong currents like off E coast of USA, SE coast of Africa, N of Australia, that can be very useful with passage planning. The high res model data is also most useful around land masses where cell signal is going to be more realistic. So yes, you are paying a lot more, but there is also a lot more potentially useful data. If this is all new, go for Standard and upgrade. If you are into serious offshore prep already, I do think having all the Pro data is helpful.

  • @ttpersonalaccount
    @ttpersonalaccount 3 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing all this

  • @JohnCornellier
    @JohnCornellier 4 роки тому

    Great video for information. Visually, would like to see a steadicam or tripods shooting and better autofocus.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      Better cameras on the way....have been waiting on Sony for some time now!

  • @chshrkt
    @chshrkt 4 роки тому

    So, when do the online "Meteorology for Sailers" classes start? ;)
    Great video as always!

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +1

      I need an assistant. lol

  • @martyhameline9685
    @martyhameline9685 4 роки тому

    Thanks Nick - I was researching weather forecasting in an effort to up my game from limited inReach weather...... Will order PW and IridiumGo via your affiliate link. Cheers SV O'MAGOG - Martin & Michelle

    • @maryetdave
      @maryetdave 2 роки тому +1

      We use to live in a city named Magog ✌️

    • @martyhameline9685
      @martyhameline9685 2 роки тому

      @@maryetdave that is where we live ;)

  • @joeblow1942
    @joeblow1942 4 роки тому

    Do you have any recommendations for how cruisers can learn how to interpret the weather data? Good video as usual. Thank you.😀

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому +2

      Not really. I’ll try to do some forecast discussions this season. I’ve learned a lot just watching experienced guys analyze situations. Stay tuned.

    • @carlgregory11
      @carlgregory11 4 роки тому

      I am definitely looking forward to more videos like this. I am just getting back into sailing after taking a few decades break so I'm definitely interested in learning how to use all of this newly available technology to make selling more safe and fun.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Yep, things have gotten a lot easier in many ways. Bending the wind is the same as last you did it...the magic is all the same. Fair winds!

  • @robthompson7174
    @robthompson7174 4 роки тому

    Great vid, Nick. Thanks for that. I'm down the learning path with my marine meteorology and finding one area where I'm a bit stuck, maybe you can help. Can you suggest a resource for learning more about the impact of upper atmosphere interaction with weather systems, specifically the 500mb level winds?
    I understand the 3 dimensionality of the nature of the air stream and the divergence/convergence with low/high pressure systems, but how do we use that to anticipate whether a system will intensify or be stable? I have Steve Dashews Weather Book that discusses it, but that's about it. I use earth null school for watching the air stream at 500mb and how the circum-polar lobes extend into the 30 latitudes, but I don't get the "so what?" yet. Do you know where else I can read on this topic? Much appreciated !

  • @robertflindall4692
    @robertflindall4692 4 роки тому +3

    You're welcome for clicking. :P I would love to see more weather related sailing videos and you are the perfect person to serve them up!

  • @Spar19row
    @Spar19row 4 роки тому

    It took me years to figure out all the functionality in my GPS. I think the same will hold true for these weather applications.

  • @rm-61366
    @rm-61366 4 роки тому

    I have predictwind and sailflow, both paid versions. I find Sailflow more accurate when using local/coastal short range forecasts for local races, mostly on Chesapeake Bay. Sailflow mid Atlantic 2km model is usually very good for short range.
    For route planning, I like SailgribWR, paid version. It's sort of an Android version of Expedition routing and navigation software on Windows, albeit much slimmed down.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      Really? I will look into the Sailflow. The WRF may have made some strides over the years. It was a hot mesoscale model for a while in the 90s when developed at NCAR. If Sailflow is running nested grids based on it, it must be quite computer intensive for them. Are they running it just in regional grids?

    • @rm-61366
      @rm-61366 4 роки тому

      @@TheOKellys can't comment on what sailflow is doing with the model, just my experience in using it. It's usually really good at local forecast, typically within a few hours of the race, for a race lasting a few hours or a day. This past season doing Wed evening races off of Annapolis, when we can get late afternoon showers or local wind anomolies it has been really good. Predictwind 1km forecast is great for overall trends but seems to smooth local disturbances out.
      Overall though, I check both PW and SF all the time and keep my eyes open on the race course. Neither seems perfect, gotta make judgements with both as inputs.

    • @TheOKellys
      @TheOKellys  4 роки тому

      I did review it for the vid, but not the paid version. The free version did not impress me. So thank you. I will look further into it.

  • @maus0292
    @maus0292 4 роки тому

    Love this content. It’s great info that seems to be said but not explained on other channels.
    I wonder what you think of the app “MyRadar” they have added lots of features over the last year.
    Also - do these models take into account solar radiation or surface heating and water temps to forecast? Not i don’t have a background in this.
    Is there is good laymen’s book to understand forecasting specifically for sailing or in general. Or are you writing one