PZ22 On The Minarelli Hybrid
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- Опубліковано 20 січ 2022
- With the air leak fixed we are still fighting a garbage idle. At this point I think the issue is my reeds, but just to be sure I decided to try out the PZ22 carburetor.
It pulls slightly stronger than the pz19 and has much better throttle response.
Minarelli Conversion kit from DHL Performance dlh-performance.myshopify.com...
PZ22 www.amazon.com/Carburetor-Mon...
PZ22 Main Jets www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
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Oil: 32:1, semi synthetic, random brands.
Gas: 87oct
Spark Plug: NGK B8HS (yd-100), NGK B6HS (pk80)
Parts: I buy mostly from Amazon.
Favorite Motor: Firestorm Zeda 80
Favorite Carburetor: NT Speed
Favorite Bike For A Motor: I don't have one yet.
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The guy on BBF / build break fix, I don't like how he talks about people that are just people they're just trying to fix their motors and asking for help but you on the other hand do a great job explaining everything and I really appreciate your videos
I heard content creators only get paid when we don't skip the ad and watch it full ... So i watch the ads 😘🙏🖤
:) It's all good, but thank you
@@LAHover thank you for the videos i love to stay updated to the fun hobby you do :)
much love from bhagalpur bihar india
i have youtube premium so i dont get any ads, makes me wonder how that works now.
i see you are using full riding jacket and riding pants , gloves , good helmet and boots
niec ! safety first
Nice like the beginning 🚲💨💨💨 you were picking up some speed good run around town 💨💯👍🤙
100th like on the vid, hell yea man, that beginning was awesome , the whole vid was!! that thing hauls ass lean or not haha, thanks for the ride!!
Yea bud oil is super important with these minis cause the cylinder is steel and the rings are steel but the piston is aluminum and they both expanded at much different rates so it’s extremely important on these hybrid motors to have them at proper operating temps and to get the tune right before really ripping it. Either way it’s great the cylinder is steel cause worst case you may ruin a piston and the cylinder will probably be fine, and the pistons are much cheaper to replace. Plus with like 220 grit sandpaper you can get rid of any aluminum transfer to the cylinder walls and what not. Anyway glad it’s not busted and you got it goin better. Just takes time to get it lined out. But remember always run it atleast 5ish minutes easy before sending it so both types of metals expand the same maybe even a lil longer then 5ish minute cause it’s winter and all. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the tip.
I learned that trick from my chainsaws , in winter i let saws an my bikes warm up at idle for 5 or 6 min in summer at least 2 . I run a 32:1 in my forced air cooled saws when i work them hard and 6oz per gal mix in my non forced air cooled bicycle
I am speaking from Bangladesh. I also morphed into an engine bicycle. I have a disc brake system on the rear wheel of my engine bicycle. We always have to drive on the highway road. So I made my bike much stronger.
Looks nice. That hits the spot.
got one i'm working on one also with pz22 all the vm 20's were sold out... was praying your 22 would work right out the box lol can't wait to hear all dialed in!
Greetings my friend from the Philippines
Watching this at 4.30a.m in the morning lol
LOL.Reading through Comments after has me here at 4:55am.Love 'sleeping on ideas' to formulate plans.
Very nice bike, that engine could take a 24mm pwk and a big sponge air filter without any problema and have more performance
This made me go ride mine
Once again this is Eric so this guy on BBF is a joke it's got a lot of good information but putting people I don't like, he needs to keep his opinions to himself or keep them up there in Canada you're doing a great job don't let him put you down
it just dawned on me... that trabants gearbox being unable to coast was probably done intentionally to protect the the stroke engine...
You rock bro!!!!!!!!
Thanks alot my engine was bogging out when I give it some gas and know I know why
Thanks for your work.(at 11:55-12,my g-4 cylinder wants to keep climbing RPM's and did until I let off.)I know you were impeded by torque and the clutch,but you kept letting off instead of slowly advancing.I totally get 'the speed thing' though,as I won't do as fast as you can,and would like to see you do a 44t,so everyone else can see what's what.Thanks LA.
51 mph 10/44 athena minarelli vertical
I want one
Those cooling fins on both the cylinder and head, are wayy undersized. I hope someone starts making copies of these with bigger fins. Nice vid though
Looking to get a cnc Smolik head soon
I'm experimenting with the phantom 85 to see if there could be any adjustments with a high compression head/a regular 80cc head what would be your input
Awesome ride bro!
Hey man I got a question where did you get the handlebar clamps to clamp to your triple tree bar
How does the minarelli compare to the phantom 85?
Where did you get those clip on handlebars
I can't use my PZ 22 because the regular throttle cable isn't long enough at the carb end to reach the bottom of the carb piston. when hooked up the carb piston is all the way up. (throttle full open)
I live in louisiana and i only change my pz20/pz22 pilot jet to 40 and leave my main jet at 100.
i also change the needle length size to a 4.2mm length size because the pz20/pz21 needle are to long.
15:33 This is interesting footage as the camera tries to retain focus. With the 92 jet it didn't seem to want to go at lower speeds. Once you got faster it seemed fine.
Thanks for pointing out the footage. I did not give it much thought at the time, but it does have a cool effect now that you mention it :)
Isnt 19mm big enough for peak hp and up to 11k rpm?
I thought you said MZ65 in your other video…🤣 PZ22 which is the pipe style much better suited for the Minarelli from what I hear. When I ordered my kit I tried to save a buck and get it rolling faster so I ordered the MZ65 works but not best fit. That’s a tough cylinder for sure I have has quite a few moments where I felt it was a wrap ( and always was on the China Doll) but that cast iron makes a big difference!
pz22 is a carb tard
Hey what was that song that was playing in the beginning??
Very good job man you have your place for word championship I think possible slleping clutch 🤘🤘🤘🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦👁👁👁💣💣💣
I have two of those Tachs on my bikes, and while they're the same exact unit, they've been rebadged. One works great (no temp though) and the other for some reason goes through those Watch Batteries (one's had the same battery in it for about 4 months now???) and no temp either, can't really attest to their accuracy, as I have nothing else to gauge either one by, but they're all the same thing, just different names on them...edit: been meaning to ask...what's with the 180 degree turn on the Tailpipe anyway? That would bug the everlovin' DOGSNOTS outta me personally...
Reasons lol... Oil away from me and my brakes.
The lutch fit slacking lock.
How did you connect the pz to the bike. Could you add a link gor the adapter that goes on the carb ?
This reed kit
www.amazon.com/KQTshangmao-Carburetor-Adaptor-Motorized-Bicycle/dp/B09KC7HR2W/ref=sr_1_83?crid=164KBJXKBSLTT&keywords=g2+reed+valve+adapter&qid=1647537775&sprefix=g2+reed+valve+adapter%2Caps%2C83&sr=8-83
Or just the adapter by it's self
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09C5SFC9Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
i have same pipe on 49mm iron sleeve cylinder ,the engine wont let me past 7400 then its dies for half a second then it goes again and dies again.. when i throttle up really slow it revs past 10k easily , any idea whats the issue ? do i need to upjet ? or is NT carb "small" for this? thanks :D
Sound super lean at wot
Try upjet
So do all pz carbs have the exact bolt pattern on the intake mount side?? So if a pz20 fits will the pz22 fit without any modifications?? Great video..I'm waiting for my mz65 pipe for my minarelli hybrid.and above freezing temperatures
Yes :) the pz19, 20, and 22 have the same stud spacing and can all be used with the same intake adapter. That is actually why I picked up all three, they are cheap and I can unbolt one to bolt on another.
They also all use the same 4mm main jets, but the pilots are different.
@@LAHover omg thx you ..That save me some much time.. ok one more, and pilot jet are available for the 19 and 22...but not available for pz20??😁😁
Hello I have a brand now zeda 80 it’s not wanting to start what should I do/check
Join the discord server. link in the description.
What's your thoughts about the Minarelli? I just ordered one already ported and built by Don Butler, so anxiously wandering what to kind of expect vs my Skyhawk I have now...
I hear only good things about Don's work, should be a screamer. The power in the entire RPM range is a night and day difference. But they are extremely picky about having a near perfect tune and zero air leaks.
@@LAHover ok, thanks for the tip about the tuning and air leaks. I'm excited to get it onto my new Zeda Demon V2
LA Is There Any Way I
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I have a question I've been watching all your videos I think you are doing a good job that guy on BBF I do not like him he thinks he's better than everyone else I don't like how he puts people down better trying to experiment fix or just trying to be the regular broke man fixer upper I like your videos you do a great job can you take a phantom 85 and chop the head off and replace it with a regular 80cc head I'm in the process of doing that but I would input
How do you like the minarelli motors?
It's allot more work to get them set up, but when you twist the wrist it's an amazing feeliing!
Can yah please try making some pads from rag joints and seeing if the stock clutch is any better with them? I’ve seen some guys swear on it. Wishing they’d heard about it sooner. It just makes me wonder…
Rubber will get hot enough that there's NO release .It'll coat the parts and just be as glue.The greyish pads with steel work best.Much as semi-metallic pads do for car brakes.
@@bryduhbikeguy what do you mean rag joints won’t work for a Minarelli?
air screw two turn out.
What material is the reed made of again?
carbon fiber
@@LAHover I'm not sure if it is the reed valve that is leaking. Maybe the case is leaking? The reed valve should stay closed when there is positive pressure and open when there is a vacuum in the cylinder. You can examine the reed valve to see if it is sealing against the reed block. If there is no gap it should seal. You can experiment by stiffening up the reed by adding a thin piece of metal to shorten the portion of the reed that flexes. This will help it seal better, but also open less when it is supposed to open.
I didn't see yoy mention anything about the pilot jet or air fuel screw. Although the reed can be an issue you still need to tune the pilot and air fuel for a good idle. As far as the clutch goes the HD spring will easily hold thst power. You need a good plate and better pads. Stock pads and plate are garbage.
Yea I agree, in most builds that he does or me, or really anyone that’s not building monsters for the track and just daily fun riders a better pressure plate and some semi metallic pads will hold more then enough. Honestly I think just tightening the spring one or two threads and using the better pads will hold most people s “performance builds”
@@JMB676 stock clutch is good for about 8hp. Most stock engines are 1.5-2hp. A basic minarelli is 8hp. Upgrading the spring, plate and better pads is more then enough . There are engines that were dynoed at 12+hp with the upgrades spring, plate and pads which held just fine. Overkill isn't necessarily bad but most times not needed.
What is a good operating temp range
100 Degree Celcius is operating temperature for air cooled
@@SmokeyVlogs Ehat about one that is not air cooled?
Here you go :) hope this helps. It's tricky to find a solid temperature gauge that does not break, but if you do this chart should help. www.dragonfly75.com/motorbike/headtemp.html
needle size 4 inches and 2mm.
What about that 110
It truly is... But I still need to get around to tuning it :)
Oh boy first comment
*comment*
Mini turbo
Definitely reed pedal issue for your idle, invest in a good set of carbon pedals.
Ballsy running after a heat seize without looking at the rings at all,
find a way to secure that carb, you're going to have air leak issues in the long run with that thing bouncing up and down.
No burgers today lol
Delay count #1
@@LAHover I don’t understand what you mean
@@paullehman8652 Delay Count # 2
@@paullehman8652 You will have your Borger! lol...
@@LAHover lol that’s gonna be a good one
Why dos it seem like you back out of it every time the pipe hits
My nerves... I don't fully trust this build to not kill me. I enjoy the power on demand of this motor but I'm not crazy about top speed.
I found an air leak coming out of one of the screws that bolt the magneto to the case, sealed it with rtv. Reeds are notorious for leaking atleast from my experience. I just flip em.
Tried flipping it, still a gap. I'm trying something that might work, if not I'll replace it.
You got another youtuber trying to copy you on just about everything you do...lol he does a video on things right after you do.... some people are a trip .,.,..
Alex from motorized life
Oh, nah Alex is cool. We sometimes get a hold of new stuff at the same time... In fact, he is the OG 360 camera rider that inspired me to get one. I owe him thanks for some cool ideas :)
No it's definitely not Alex.....I'll just say this he is in FL.... and he is doing almost everything on his channel that LA is doing... the bike reviews the engine... the ebike...the E- Scooter and even the camera.
Heat seized because they need to be honed.
First build underway
Selection of old bikes that should be of enough shapes and sizes to confuse.
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Two feet of snow and minus 38C to keep me inside and dedicated to the build as long as dexterity holds. ✔
A brand new (wasn't it supposed to shine er sumthin) 100cc kit. ✔ (jug does not match up with case cap does not fit the deformed tank cast head has actual bubble holes through the cast)
Jar of disappointment readily at hand. ✔
Master am I ready?
you will never get it to idle with that needle size because it to long.
you still bogging.
Man jetting is the most important on 2 strokes run it a little fat at 50/1 mix you have to do plug chops and always tune most important thing brother.
Good oil synthetic amsoil or even better mobile 1 if they still make it 2 stroke. And believe me brother had 2 strokes all my life 50/1 because believe it or not 32/1 and all that craziness actually is lean in itself. Because of less fuel. People think it's safe to run all that oil now days with good oils you could run that at 80/1 I wouldn't myself but it would be OK. Never do that 32/1 I'll never understand why some people think that's good maybe and maybe back I. 1970s but now no good lose performance and runs lean .
This made me go ride mine