What is the Most Powerful Precon EVER?! | Extra Turns 27 | Magic: The Gathering Commander Gameplay

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  • @falformfreeform9553
    @falformfreeform9553 2 роки тому +1739

    This would have been perfect to have a whole series of all the precons going against eachother tournament style

  • @Blu_Moon_Owl
    @Blu_Moon_Owl 2 роки тому +636

    Now we need this to be a mini series of other precons against each other

    • @thebrbninja
      @thebrbninja 2 роки тому +11

      LRR just started a gameplay series like this using a wheel of precons :D

    • @Cupitron
      @Cupitron 2 роки тому

      YES!

    • @fluffylegend294
      @fluffylegend294 2 роки тому

      YESSSSSSS

    • @mildtotemperate
      @mildtotemperate 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cupitron it's friday baby, fauck!

    • @Clements2006
      @Clements2006 2 роки тому +1

      @@thebrbninja it's been awesome so far

  • @milisicht
    @milisicht 2 роки тому +167

    12:30 Josh had an artifact land, could sac it and use Osgir’s ability to make two lands, also looting to find a land to make the turn land drop. (This would have also made it so he could hit for 2 more.)
    Also the lands enter untapped, so he would have net mana even in the turn and still be able to sac the key.
    As an experienced Osgir player trust me: do not underestimate his ramp potential

    • @crossr1984
      @crossr1984 2 роки тому +7

      Nice, yeah, the artifact lands are some of my favorite targetswith Osgir. Such a fun deck.

    • @milisicht
      @milisicht 2 роки тому +4

      @@crossr1984 It is. But my favourite targets have to be the rings of brighthearth type things. It’s all snowballing from there.
      Either that or mirror of fate and win pretty much immediately

    • @zacherickson4551
      @zacherickson4551 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah that was a pretty big misplay

    • @briankemper9443
      @briankemper9443 2 роки тому

      @@milisicht could you explain the mirror of fate to me? i don't quite understand why you would do that

    • @emmanewton7342
      @emmanewton7342 2 роки тому +3

      @@briankemper9443 you can loop the mirror of fate and whatever other aftifacts you've exiled. bc the two mirrors will see the original, you can play clown music for the rest of the game as you start playing simic in boros

  • @sethschlund7026
    @sethschlund7026 2 роки тому +261

    The way my soul fractured when Kaalia was thrown away like that… ouch

    • @zacknair6202
      @zacknair6202 2 роки тому +49

      It was a poor decision to be sure

    • @PokeStatsStudios
      @PokeStatsStudios 2 роки тому +60

      Yeah, that made no sense. If you want to show of how powerful the deck is, why wouldn’t you use the face commander, which is the entire reason the deck is as good as it is?

    • @CaptainZone1337
      @CaptainZone1337 2 роки тому

      It’s cause the person is mentally ill

    • @Danteninjaful
      @Danteninjaful 2 роки тому +7

      @@PokeStatsStudios to be fair, back when those Commander decks came out, they were notoriously unfocused. They were nigh unplayable out of the box. Rebell choosing that one surprised me, because it was clearly solely based on (one of) the face Commanders.
      Side note: those products prominently displayed all three oversized foil cards, so it’s hard to say one was the specific “face” in the same way the newer decks have.

    • @nicholasbolas
      @nicholasbolas 2 роки тому +8

      Not surprised coming from a rebel....
      Throwing the swamp in the discard phase.... putting a sticker and then using terminate on stickered creature... oof... so much rebellion there.

  • @jasonbelkengren1855
    @jasonbelkengren1855 2 роки тому +394

    Surprised none of the decks were using Eminence, when I saw the theme of today's episode I was expecting Ur-Dragon or Edgar Markov

    • @sillylung
      @sillylung 2 роки тому +1

      Same here

    • @mrknarf4438
      @mrknarf4438 2 роки тому +10

      Precons usually don't run much removal, it makes sense to go for commanders that provide crazy value while they're out. Eminence is a very powerful mechanic also because it avoids removal, but I think their choices made sense.

    • @Deris76
      @Deris76 2 роки тому +40

      The Ur-Dragon's manabase was pretty bad. Edgar would probably have a better shot as the most powerful precon out of the box

    • @xannetsch6143
      @xannetsch6143 2 роки тому +1

      Thats what im saying

    • @tmdblya
      @tmdblya 2 роки тому +1

      Unfun.

  • @deejayf69
    @deejayf69 2 роки тому +754

    Is it just me or is Jimmy's mic this episode spiking like crazy?

    • @Celith2
      @Celith2 2 роки тому +47

      His mic is god awful lol

    • @lanetanner8938
      @lanetanner8938 2 роки тому +25

      Glad I wasn't the only one who thought it was being buggy

    • @SebHoare
      @SebHoare 2 роки тому +15

      im sitting here trying to turn my headset down, this was god awful hahaha

    • @TrickySpirit
      @TrickySpirit 2 роки тому +6

      Yeah it's peaking the audio like mad.

    • @TheRandomeDud3
      @TheRandomeDud3 2 роки тому +6

      I was thinking the same thing. It wasn’t the usual crisp sound that we’ve come to expect

  • @clasherking4528
    @clasherking4528 2 роки тому +69

    Josh's single thopter at the end
    "Sir, are you seeing this horde of things on giant birds? What is happening?"
    Josh: " yes I see them.... I need you to somehow deal with all of that."
    The thopter..... "Not no, but heck no"

  • @RayearthIX
    @RayearthIX 2 роки тому +101

    I feel like Rebell threw the game before it even started. I mean... the Kaalia precon is based on Kaalia getting out your 5+ CMC angels, demons, and dragons for free with her trigger. Removing her and choosing a 7 CMC commander with a random trigger was basically giving up before the game even started.

    • @TripsAhoy
      @TripsAhoy 2 роки тому +43

      And throwing a land into the bin and then missing land drops?!?!?!?!?!? Lmao.

    • @nifargo14rules
      @nifargo14rules 2 роки тому +11

      Yea, never throw away lands in Kaalia... Deck starves for those...

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 Рік тому +3

      I'm pretty sure Tariel was in that precon originally, so it was at least somewhat intended that you could use Tariel - it's not just some random 7-drop. Granted, Tariel isn't remotely as good as Kaalia, but still...

    • @hemalgiac
      @hemalgiac Рік тому +5

      Not to mention Rebell could've knocked Voxy out of the game @26:24 but chose to hit Murph for nonlethal. I mean, he was a threat for sure, but Voxy just kept proliferating all game and that ends games if it goes unnoticed.

    • @Wiwwia
      @Wiwwia 10 місяців тому +3

      And they are the same person who talks about how bad Cedh players are at keeping up with the format, and is constantly nitpicking bad commander play. xD

  • @kiwi_commander
    @kiwi_commander 2 роки тому +54

    Man, i missed the precon games. Playing a deck out of the box just gives you a warm fuzzy feeling.

  • @dawnanddusk27
    @dawnanddusk27 2 роки тому +25

    You gotta use osgir to sacrifice the artifact land and then tap him for 0 and get 2 copies of it. That’s how you ramp in Boros!

  • @LVMTG
    @LVMTG 2 роки тому +158

    These newer Precons have been super powerful as of late. I’m ready to see these Precons from magic history.

    • @brandonumlauf9197
      @brandonumlauf9197 2 роки тому +3

      Jimmy's mic was peaking badly during the intro. Love you guys!

    • @ingolf82
      @ingolf82 2 роки тому +3

      the older ones were way more busted. Gavin even admitted that 2017 was a mistake. Eminence is way too powerful. of the new ones I really like the simic ones. I don't have Aesi, but I got the Strixhaven one and it's really powerful when upgraded just slightly, like the 30 $ upgrade from the command zone + a few extra cards were enough to make it really scary.

    • @colinsmith5879
      @colinsmith5879 2 роки тому +4

      A lot of old ones were super weak and all around awful

    • @LVMTG
      @LVMTG 2 роки тому +1

      @@ingolf82 I have the Aesi one and it is pretty powerful. I did eventually take it apart and make a simic good stuff deck.

    • @jimharris5320
      @jimharris5320 2 роки тому

      @@colinsmith5879 I mean they don't even have Arcane Signet in them!

  • @BigDrew49
    @BigDrew49 2 роки тому +67

    Exit From Exile with Faldorn is absurd out of the box as well, I'm surprised it's not on here

    • @whysvert
      @whysvert 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah it's surprisingly strong! Another exile based precon that's pretty strong is the Prosper one

    • @garcardosotan6172
      @garcardosotan6172 2 роки тому +1

      I mean, neither was edgar...

    • @rodgerlang884
      @rodgerlang884 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, this seems less like they chose good precons and more just chose good commanders. Most of the precons from the last 2 years are so much better out of the box

    • @BigDrew49
      @BigDrew49 2 роки тому

      I honestly don't see why the CZ team keeps plugging that Osgir deck. Yeah it's a solid Boros deck, but as far as Strixhaven precons go, it was 2nd worst only to Silverquill...and if your meta is big into politics, it falls to worst behind (respectively) Adrix(hands down the best, likely why it wasnt featured on the GK episode), Veyran, Willowdusk, and Breena.

    • @azarakh13
      @azarakh13 2 роки тому +2

      @@BigDrew49 Second worst??? for real??? i played it against all other decks and he clearly is always on top. osgir ramp and power is just absurd.

  • @locus0fmana
    @locus0fmana 2 роки тому +35

    Fantastic game.
    I think the irony of this particular match is that if Josh had sacrificed his Great Furnace instead of Key to the City when he went to kill Murph, then he would have likely had enough damage to kill Voxy on his next turn.
    Really enjoyed the back n forth as well

    • @failureworks
      @failureworks 2 роки тому +7

      Definitely should have sac/recurred the great furnace

    • @davidchapman7350
      @davidchapman7350 2 роки тому +2

      @@failureworks Right?!? My mind was kinda blown that it didn't happen at 14:05 , such an easy play.

    • @OzzyOsgir
      @OzzyOsgir 2 роки тому

      @@davidchapman7350 as an osgir player myself. I too was in shambles.

  • @heatfactor57
    @heatfactor57 2 роки тому +146

    I play in a precon league at my locals and Aesi is an absolute powerhouse let me tell you.

    • @Uberfanboy52
      @Uberfanboy52 2 роки тому +3

      I love the Reap the Tides deck so much I bought two.... although I use Koma as a commander for 1 of them. But yes it's a great precon deck

    • @ElderlyJoeDuffy
      @ElderlyJoeDuffy 2 роки тому

      6 mana before you can start to ramp seems pretty slow, but I'm not super used to Commander.

    • @Krusell1994
      @Krusell1994 2 роки тому +1

      Really? Seems like it really lacks a win con.

    • @heatfactor57
      @heatfactor57 2 роки тому +3

      @@Krusell1994 these are just base precons we are playing with in this league. So all the value generated with Aesi is enough to win.

    • @aaronloiselle3651
      @aaronloiselle3651 2 роки тому

      It's literally trash. If it doesn't ramp you just lose most of the time. Not to mention if you have to build a deck to ramp and continually draw cards to win, it's bad. Definitely the worst of the 4 decks at the table, and there are plenty of precons that are definitely more powerful.

  • @timdornaus
    @timdornaus 2 роки тому +34

    i like seeing some clean and (mostly) fair precons being played once in a while.

  • @williamcarter6958
    @williamcarter6958 2 роки тому +68

    Rebel: we are friends right?
    Voxy: Yeahh!…I’m taking your Lightning Greaves 😂

    • @TehFoamy
      @TehFoamy 2 роки тому +3

      Friends let friends borrow shoes :)

    • @ENSNinjaaa
      @ENSNinjaaa 2 роки тому

      Rebell was like voxy you biatch time for atraxa to get terminated 😉😅😆

    • @ericarikaliean172
      @ericarikaliean172 2 роки тому +3

      Friends don't let friends run barefoot 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @owainjohnson3740
      @owainjohnson3740 Рік тому

      Please forgive my ignorance, but why did the greaves get attached to a germ when they were stolen? I thought they had to be a living weapon or something similar for that to happen?

  • @antoniohenderson6090
    @antoniohenderson6090 2 роки тому +61

    Jimmy's Mic that's out a tad too loud and extra crunchy : wHaTs uP EvErYBoDy, WeLCoMe To a nEW ePiSoDe oF ExTRa tUrNs!

    • @TehWhitt
      @TehWhitt 2 роки тому

      Sometimes I wonder how editors say to themselves - yeah this is great

    • @antoniohenderson6090
      @antoniohenderson6090 2 роки тому +14

      @@TehWhitt I'm sure it was an honest mistake. No doubt they just didn't have the time to redo the take or when they realized that the audio was messed up it was too late to re-shoot. Especially with their schedules. Mistakes happen, this was just having a bit of fun about the situation.

  • @yuen4817
    @yuen4817 2 роки тому +26

    I hope the 40k deck video is the unmodified precons. Love to see more videos like this one where we see them unchanged. Also Kickstarter with more tokens and alters would be dope.

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto 2 роки тому +6

      I find 'upgrading' the 40K decks blasphemy. They should be played and kept as precons. Hell, they should have made em silverbordered :p

  • @samoumek801
    @samoumek801 2 роки тому +7

    Murph: Didn't you win with champion of lambholt last time you were here?
    Voxy: And you can be damn sure I'll do it again!

  • @jpwood9180
    @jpwood9180 2 роки тому +32

    Key to the City is great! It's perfect with Osgir. It lets you discard an artifact to recur with Osgir. Makes Osgir or any creature unlockable. And that works especially well when you're giving creatures +2/+0

    • @ruekaen
      @ruekaen 2 роки тому +3

      Key is really good in any reanimator/aggro synergy deck. Love it in Gyrus. That said if you aren't using it for every piece of the card, there are better options out there lol.

    • @The1jkanter
      @The1jkanter 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah if JLK had sac’d his great furnace instead of the key he might have taken that game. Hard to say and always a difficult choice in the moment but I always keep my Key when playing Osgir

    • @ReXtion88
      @ReXtion88 2 роки тому

      It's better in other decks, doesn't really get you much for doubling it with Osgir, but in other reanimator decks it's fantastic

    • @The1jkanter
      @The1jkanter 2 роки тому

      @@ReXtion88 yeah doubling it with Osgir isn’t very good but it can get expensive artifacts into the yard and it also lets you Falcon punch someone with Osgir. I dunno I like it

    • @ReXtion88
      @ReXtion88 2 роки тому +2

      @@The1jkanter I'm not saying it's super bad, it's just that with Osgir you generally want to maximise the number of artifacts that get better the more of them you have, but two Keys to the City is nowhere near twice as good as one of them. I prefer Key to the City in my Teneb, the Harvester deck, which generally doesn't want to cast things from my hand - my Osgir deck usually does

  • @flyingtoastr
    @flyingtoastr 2 роки тому +28

    Voxy seems to be popping up everywhere lately and it's great. Really enjoy the chaotic energy.

  • @madskil72
    @madskil72 2 роки тому +56

    Finally we get to see Aesi in action!! Aesi was my first Magic deck, and it's so powerful

    • @freerunner1953
      @freerunner1953 2 роки тому +6

      My little brother got it for me for Christmas when it came out and I was impressed. I've since upgraded it a lot and taken out most of the original cards but was still good. Especially good considering it was one of the set precons and was cheaper than a commander set precon

    • @nathangentry1419
      @nathangentry1419 2 роки тому +4

      My first was ezuri claw of progress, for a gift I was given sage of hours and a few other cards to make it better. That precon was fun. I think I’m about to order it.

    • @Theycallmelilmike
      @Theycallmelilmike 2 роки тому +4

      Aesi wasn’t my first, but definitely my first love in the command zone. That decks my baby now… extended foil everything basically just because 🫶🏻

    • @skykur
      @skykur 2 роки тому

      Aesi is the most popular deck played at my LGS. Pretty bored of playing against it.

    • @nathangentry1419
      @nathangentry1419 2 роки тому +1

      @@skykur ah, that’s unfortunate, just show up with a nekuzar deck or something and hate them out of having fun playing it.

  • @calenhoover1124
    @calenhoover1124 2 роки тому +54

    I was hoping to see Prosper here but I guess he does get a lot of love elsewhere. His precon was actually insane.

    • @theotherguy4478
      @theotherguy4478 2 роки тому +5

      Prosper is my second favorite commander. With no upgrades, I was able to win with him in 45 minutes on the first go around.

    • @manuelito1233
      @manuelito1233 2 роки тому +3

      @@theotherguy4478 The value is insane, and the payoffs in the deck are actually so good.

  • @EuGostoDaAnaClaudiaMartins
    @EuGostoDaAnaClaudiaMartins 2 роки тому +18

    Josh could tap the artifact land (Great Furnace) and sacrifice itself to get any creature +2/0, and then pay 0 and tap Osgir to get 2 tokens of the land onto the battlefield.

  • @ryanfeery7361
    @ryanfeery7361 2 роки тому +24

    I so miss you guys battling with precons.
    It's always a blast and always looks like you all have a ton of fun with them.
    More of this please

  • @HexQuesTT
    @HexQuesTT 2 роки тому +103

    What's up with Jimmy's mic at the beginning? it's real crunchy

    • @EwMatias
      @EwMatias 2 роки тому +7

      I was wondering if it was on my end because it feels so odd.

    • @fsaavedrap
      @fsaavedrap 2 роки тому +6

      good to know it's not a problem with my headphones

    • @PauperPrincex
      @PauperPrincex 2 роки тому

      Sounds like it's time for all of their mics to get the axe after the last vid too

    • @GoldoaDragon
      @GoldoaDragon 2 роки тому +1

      You've heard of extra crunchy peanut butter, but the Command Zone is launching a brand new extra crunchy microphone!

    • @DenverEight
      @DenverEight 2 роки тому

      Chances are the vid either isn’t loaded all the way yet or they may have to reupload the vid.

  • @noahwatchesvids
    @noahwatchesvids 2 роки тому +6

    As someone who got into Magic from a friend letting me borrow their Aesi deck, I'm always excited to see them be played outside of my pod

    • @SC_Silver_99
      @SC_Silver_99 Рік тому

      Aesi was my favorite commander and precon before Osgir came out, I upgraded both of those decks a whole bunch and turned them into my own

  • @the_social_gammer1976
    @the_social_gammer1976 2 роки тому +82

    There better be a part 2 because Edgar needs on here

    • @alienware609
      @alienware609 2 роки тому +5

      Edgar was my first precon and I absolutely love it; while I do agree is a strong deck. Right out of the box is a bit too slow. It has creatures that are simply too expensive to keep up with faster decks.

    • @precursor3688
      @precursor3688 2 роки тому +5

      edgar and ur dragon, pretty powerful.

    • @the_social_gammer1976
      @the_social_gammer1976 2 роки тому

      @@alienware609 I think it would keep up it's hard to keep down plus cards like tefri pro it has some good protection

    • @flatline9737
      @flatline9737 2 роки тому

      riku of two reflections needs to be in that game as well

  • @zero0grace
    @zero0grace 2 роки тому +18

    I was really happy to see Rebell on extra turns, truly one of my fav people in the magic community

  • @creffi9966
    @creffi9966 2 роки тому +5

    It makes me so happy to see Asei in this episode, by far one of my top 10 underrated commanders for my area.

  • @aaronloiselle3651
    @aaronloiselle3651 2 роки тому +12

    Rebell is the exact type of player i wont ever invite to a game. Literally had the battle seraph with 4 power while Voxy had 4 life and no blockers and was tapped out and what happens? "Attack Murph for 4."
    Are you kidding me?

  • @jareddaley2040
    @jareddaley2040 2 роки тому +5

    Great episode! Before the announced commanders, I knew Atraxa was one. Was great to see Voxy pilot that to a win. Cheers to Josh for not picking blue! 😅
    You still drew more cards than the table! Cheers!

  • @mathiashls
    @mathiashls 2 роки тому +9

    Got into magic like a few weeks ago and just bought reap of the tides as a starter for my commander journey. Really cool to see someone who knows how to play using the precon, so I know how I should be playing now 😅

    • @ljjohnson269
      @ljjohnson269 2 роки тому +1

      Practice makes perfect👍🏿

    • @haloplayer9855
      @haloplayer9855 2 роки тому

      He doesn't know how to play, he misused his clone card so badly. I have now idea why he didn't just keep copying the Beloths

    • @andreabimonte7688
      @andreabimonte7688 2 роки тому

      @@haloplayer9855 maybe he just wanted to have fun. food for thought 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @haloplayer9855
      @haloplayer9855 2 роки тому

      @@andreabimonte7688 Maybe he's shit 🤷🏼‍♀

    • @AluGames_
      @AluGames_ Рік тому

      Yo if you still play reap I have an amazing upgrade for you. Buy the card “Archetype of imagination” combo that with stormtide leviathan and your opponents can’t attack nor block.

  • @fatefulwaffle
    @fatefulwaffle 2 роки тому +139

    Here I am just learning that Kaalia got a precon

    • @primalx7975
      @primalx7975 2 роки тому +38

      Not just a precon, the first precon!!!

    • @fatefulwaffle
      @fatefulwaffle 2 роки тому +4

      @@primalx7975 very cool to know! Now I know who to hate when someone plays a Kaalia deck, WoTC! Jk jk

    • @BurnByMoonlight
      @BurnByMoonlight 2 роки тому +11

      One actually just showed up for sale at my LGS a few weeks ago. It’s still there with a $200 price tag, sealed.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon 2 роки тому +11

      It's my very first precon and what got me back into Magic and Commander! When I first read her attack trigger I was like: WHAT @w@

    • @fatefulwaffle
      @fatefulwaffle 2 роки тому +1

      @@RebellSon it's an absolutely disgusting attack trigger, I've always wanted to build a Kaalia deck with Aurelia as a secret commander, but I've never been too interested in Mardu. Despite that, you definitely inspired me to push towards a mardu deck more with the Alt commander, I love a good bit of thievery

  • @redbirdriot
    @redbirdriot 2 роки тому +13

    I think these were all good picks, but gotta say, the Faldorn precon (Exit from Exile) is really strong. I've kept it as a precon and it definitely punches above its weight. Was kind of hoping to see that one here.

    • @jackalcoyote8777
      @jackalcoyote8777 2 роки тому

      There have been strong one. Prosper was like faldorn but even stronger. (Tho in weaker colors).
      Other strong ones are mizzix, teferi, windgrace, markov, and derevi. I'm actually very shocked they weren't picked.

    • @MarvTheMadKing
      @MarvTheMadKing 2 роки тому

      I made a few small changes to mine and repeatedly kill the table at my LGS when I play her.

  • @andyik9009
    @andyik9009 2 роки тому +31

    No one picked Ur-dragon or Markov? Or i also remember the Teferi precon deck being really strong out of the box

    • @AlexSanchez-wh4xy
      @AlexSanchez-wh4xy 2 роки тому +2

      I felt the same about Edgar Markov missing from here. He’s pretty much the deck by himself lol

    • @kbathory
      @kbathory 2 роки тому +1

      nor the Meren deck

    • @MrNbkelly
      @MrNbkelly 2 роки тому +2

      Ur-dragon was horrible out of the box, the mana base made it near unplayable

    • @andyik9009
      @andyik9009 2 роки тому

      @@MrNbkelly Taplands. but you would get all your colors 👍 saying it was unplayable is really an over exaggeration

    • @Iamthequick
      @Iamthequick 2 роки тому +1

      Markov is too unfair imo

  • @illusivespecter8124
    @illusivespecter8124 2 роки тому +8

    I'm going to go ahead on a limb here and say the only reason we didn't see Elves vampires and dragons (you know which ones I'm talking about) is because had the tribal episode not that long ago

  • @FrogAtog
    @FrogAtog 2 роки тому +11

    Edgar markov and teferi, temporal archmage are super strong out of the box. I remember the morph one being really tuned as well.

  • @silki9716
    @silki9716 2 роки тому +7

    I love these precon format. It's balanced and exciting to watch!

  • @nicholasrosenblatt4460
    @nicholasrosenblatt4460 2 роки тому +3

    The banter in this episode and the fun everyone was having. One of my favorite episodes yet. Thanks again for all your team brings to the community.

  • @neeonfox7484
    @neeonfox7484 2 роки тому +12

    i miss the precon fight videos....i liked seeing how the decks play out and how they prefrom out of the box against each other

  • @bardiel83
    @bardiel83 2 роки тому +5

    Pleeeease, more Precon matches. That was awesome to watch

  • @snipeageddon794
    @snipeageddon794 2 роки тому +3

    I had a really crappy day today and a new episode from game knights really made it better thank you so much

  • @smartfox007
    @smartfox007 2 роки тому +16

    Maybe I missed something, but didn’t Rebell have a chance to take out Voxy with her angel?

  • @twarnold14
    @twarnold14 2 роки тому +1

    The precon match was surprisingly nostalgic. I would love to see more!

  • @laddbarrett9444
    @laddbarrett9444 2 роки тому +4

    would love a series on all the precons playing against each other tournament style

  • @bryan7417
    @bryan7417 Рік тому

    Rebell - "I thought we were friends the. You took my shoes" 10:53

  • @IceMetalPunk
    @IceMetalPunk 2 роки тому +7

    If I ever meet the crew, I'm definitely saying, "I just met Jimmy, and I like Josh, so, uh, Murph..." 😂

  • @nawidayobi
    @nawidayobi 2 роки тому +1

    jimmy doing new capenna radio guy impressions lmao

  • @willzang3000
    @willzang3000 2 роки тому +7

    lathril and henzie were some powerful precons too

  • @QuestionableScorpion
    @QuestionableScorpion 2 роки тому

    What got me into Magic was the amazing artwork on the cards, with my very first deck ever being Aesi. To see someone use that precon just has nostalgia for me and I love it!

  • @AshlenRose
    @AshlenRose 2 роки тому +4

    How can I choose who to root for when they are all my favorite people?!? GAAAAH

  • @imarinobr
    @imarinobr 6 місяців тому

    Top notch episode! This should be a regular series.

  • @TimmytheSorcerer
    @TimmytheSorcerer 2 роки тому +4

    Like the idea and would love to see more pre-con battles.

  • @XavierF3nix
    @XavierF3nix 2 роки тому

    Abzan Falconer: etbs
    Me: "AND HE FLIES THROUGH THE AIR, WITH THE GREATEST OF EASE!" -Moby Jones, SSX Tricky, early 2000's

  • @lavandereisly4194
    @lavandereisly4194 2 роки тому +6

    Clearly what we learned here is that Champion of Lambholt is the best commander.

  • @Soviniy
    @Soviniy 2 роки тому +1

    0:11 My brain for a split second: NICKELODEON STAFF!!

  • @frago321
    @frago321 2 роки тому +20

    She deserved the win.
    She did most of the work in the table.
    She was fun and engaging.
    She did what the deck had to do.
    She got really close to dying.
    She respected her deal not to deal with Josh.
    She was fun to watch even with a precon.

    • @Nickaliiam
      @Nickaliiam 2 роки тому +2

      I'm just starting the video, and I'm assuming you're virtue signaling your ass off with this comment.

    • @alexandreferreira6049
      @alexandreferreira6049 2 роки тому +1

      I read with a robot like voice

  • @ZeldaRooster
    @ZeldaRooster 2 роки тому +5

    We need to make a tourney of all precons, 4 at a time, against each other. Leftover decks from certain years (i.e 2011, 13, 14, and 15) can go against each other
    Edit: I forgot 2016 also had a fifth deck, as I remember the four color decks all had one color not present. Saskia, Breya, Yidris, Atraxa, and Kynaios and Tiro. However, K&T need something that can compete fast. I should make a list

  • @sammoss226
    @sammoss226 2 роки тому +6

    Aesi is a monster of a precon. Ramp, play Aesi and value into huge haymakers. Absolutely fantastic precon

    • @benbird2100
      @benbird2100 2 роки тому +1

      It's definitely a lot of fun to play, but it took me a lot of practice to realize what a good hand looked like, and even then the earliest you can get your commander on the field (absent a god-tier first hand) is turn four, and typically you won't get Aesi out on the field until turn 6, assuming that you're opponent doesn't decide to take him out. Not saying it's not a powerful deck, but it is definitely a slow start before Aesi comes out. I have heavily modified (as in replaced nearly half the cards) my Reap the Tides deck after running it stock for a month or two against my friends who have custom commander decks or modified precons.

  • @wr9ith
    @wr9ith 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who bought the Aesi precon thinking it would be one of the most powerful due to it’s potential and structure, I am overjoyed to see it on this series. I MEAN COME ON? 20 DOLLARS? INFINITE UPGRADE POTENTIAL? BIG SEA MONSTERS? Hell. Yes.

  • @AnthonyJohnson-ku5wr
    @AnthonyJohnson-ku5wr 2 роки тому +6

    I always thought prossh was a crazy powerful precon. I hope we see him on another episode of this

  • @somekindadragon3414
    @somekindadragon3414 Рік тому

    I love precons (and the budget upgrade guides) so watching good players play them was fun and educational. Thanks!

  • @Zer0_._
    @Zer0_._ 2 роки тому +10

    5:30 start
    22:05 resume

  • @microdog
    @microdog 2 роки тому

    I LOVED this episode. Though, as a scientist, I’d like to mention that this is an N of one, and with the amount of variability in commander, you’d probably need at least 16 games with the same 4 decks to establish an answer with more validity.

  • @Ricanpapi9
    @Ricanpapi9 2 роки тому +4

    The way Kaalia just went flying 😆

  • @santajose
    @santajose 2 роки тому +2

    Love the idea of new dynamics but one of the things I like from extra turns is the power level and precons doesn't go with the high power that we are used to see here.

  • @underachiever2092
    @underachiever2092 2 роки тому +3

    I bought the Osgir deck and I think I even upgraded it, but I never got around to playing the deck. I hope it performs well.

  • @andrewroy5677
    @andrewroy5677 2 роки тому +1

    Coven counters was a surprisingly powerful precon, also Otrimi was really powerful out of the box. I must say, though, that these decks played well against each other. Great episode!

  • @jonlamoreaux2228
    @jonlamoreaux2228 2 роки тому +10

    lmao, Watching rebell go from turn 1/2 cedh wins to playing a 7 drop commander out of a precon is amazing! Still waiting for Josh and Jimmy to do a CEDH episode.

  • @dcrow9650
    @dcrow9650 2 роки тому +1

    I was getting ready for lunch, looking for something cool to see. And this video gets uploaded. Nice.

  • @Vidious808
    @Vidious808 2 роки тому +8

    I'm gonna say Edgar Markov!

  • @xxMunda
    @xxMunda 2 роки тому +1

    35:12 these should've been 3/3 birds with flying since Atraxa already gave them their second +1/+1 counter. Luckily this didn't change the outcome and was a still an amazing match

  • @vashthestampede269
    @vashthestampede269 2 роки тому +4

    would you guys consider having the 4 players try and build the same commander 4 different ways? i think that would be really awesome to the variety the players could display with the same commander.

    • @LSgaming201
      @LSgaming201 2 роки тому +1

      It would be 4 nearly identical decks with slightly different wincons. Unless they played something wild like Golos or Jodah but even then the mana bases and basic layout would still be the same.

  • @leebutler2509
    @leebutler2509 Рік тому

    What a game that was and on starter decks. Just started mtg again after many years and looking at chaos Incarnate with maybe a few upgrades. Started playing with new neighbours with my missus and have to say I'm loving it all over again.

  • @magiczbaraku3030
    @magiczbaraku3030 2 роки тому +7

    Murph got my respect ! What a guy :)

  • @shawnpretzel6182
    @shawnpretzel6182 2 роки тому +2

    This episode should be called gang up on Murph lol. After that baloth came out everyone was on kill Murph mode.

  • @P1Em4n03
    @P1Em4n03 2 роки тому +7

    Seriously, no Edgar?!

  • @DeBumbleZ
    @DeBumbleZ 2 роки тому +1

    Osgir is my favorite precon of all time, I absolutely love artifact shenanigans and I feel like he can take it to the next level. Great game!

  • @naruka666
    @naruka666 2 роки тому +20

    Rebell almost had play of the game with that Malfegor

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon 2 роки тому +13

      SO CLOSE

    • @MPerMinute
      @MPerMinute 2 роки тому +1

      I felt so bad for them! Haha everyone else’s decks got to show off, Rebell almost got to do something cool.

    • @haloplayer9855
      @haloplayer9855 2 роки тому

      @@MPerMinute it's deserved switch out kaalia was retarded

    • @zombieslayer2016
      @zombieslayer2016 2 роки тому +1

      @@MPerMinute had rebel swung at voxy instead of murph they could have at least taken her out of the game that would have been cool

  • @ThjyuGaming
    @ThjyuGaming 2 роки тому

    I love Reap the Tides, was my first deck i have ever played with and i wont 3 games in a row against my buddy teaching me. The 3rd game he was genuinely trying. I bought it as my first commander deck and have been making improvements to it as i play and get more cards. Easily one of my favorites.

  • @kylemccool1037
    @kylemccool1037 2 роки тому +7

    Congrats to Voxy on another epic win! Love to see her come back again

  • @smokeyalpaca1910
    @smokeyalpaca1910 2 роки тому +1

    "Ska?"
    -Josh Lee Kwai, and also the Lord Ruler I guess

  • @BorosZombie
    @BorosZombie 2 роки тому +8

    Kalia was my first commander deck so seeing Rebell playing that deck makes me so happy

    • @matthewlugo2417
      @matthewlugo2417 2 роки тому

      Rebel didnt play kaalia idk what your talking about

  • @benbird2100
    @benbird2100 Рік тому

    I've really enjoyed using the Reap The Tide's pre-con for as a foundation to create a deck filled with dangerously powerful beasts multiple win conditions. If you go the route of using this deck as a foundation for your own Simic Landfall Deck, I highly recommend keeping (or upgrading) a good portion of the land bounce featured in the pre-con, as it can be really helpful in the mid-game to ensure that you can still trigger your landfall. I would also recommend the use of multiple blue instant spells which can return Aesi to your hand from the battlefield, as casting a commander multiple times from your command zone--especially a commander with a base casting cost of 6 mana --can get pretty expensive very quickly.

  • @ShredAimlessly92
    @ShredAimlessly92 2 роки тому +8

    Swapping Kaalia out for the extremely mid alt commander was basically throwing the game lol. Also confused as to why no daddy Markov, he seems like top 5 material.

  • @NerdfightingWhovian
    @NerdfightingWhovian 2 роки тому +2

    Aesi was my first commander deck! I may be biased but I think it's great! :)

  • @sopherous4314
    @sopherous4314 2 роки тому +21

    I just hope to see game knights for the 40k decks

  • @thatoneborosplayer2577
    @thatoneborosplayer2577 2 роки тому +1

    You took my shoes is the best excuse for terminate ever

  • @TheSpikeFeeders
    @TheSpikeFeeders 2 роки тому +5

    Rebell rules. What a great episode!

  • @SengokuTheGouda
    @SengokuTheGouda 2 роки тому +1

    I expected to see Atraxa. But I also expected Edgar and the Jeleva decks. Shocked they weren’t here. The Jeleva deck especially still holds up, as I use it frequently in my friends precon only games.

  • @Crymble
    @Crymble 2 роки тому +4

    Voxy and Rebell seem like genuinely nice people. Hope good things happen to both of them.

  • @marginis
    @marginis 2 роки тому +1

    I still keep my original Meren of Clan Net Toth precon with the same cards it had fresh out of the box, just to keep a precon level deck on me if I'm up against newer players. Everyone always thinks I'm the archenemy, even if I'm way behind (AND USING A PRECON) just because of the reputation Meren has.
    I mean it doesn't help that my good Meren deck is the most oppressive deck I've ever built (literally - it runs Oppression), but still.

  • @randommindz6782
    @randommindz6782 2 роки тому +9

    literally this morning: Outside of super-friends, is Atraxa, Praetors' Voice really worthy to be Rank #1 on Edhrec?
    after the game: you know, $30 on Tcgplayer isn't so bad.....

    • @jstawch2608
      @jstawch2608 2 роки тому

      Shes not only good, but versatile. You can run her a few different ways and still be strong. Counters, Planeswalkers, you can be mean and do -1-1 counters to opponents stuff, poison counters...Not to mention shes a 4/4 flying deathouch lifelink for 4 mana. I bought her when she first came out. That deck has since been stolen... very sad. 8(

    • @RoxyGotMoxy.
      @RoxyGotMoxy. 2 роки тому

      @@jstawch2608 sorry for your loss.

    • @RoxyGotMoxy.
      @RoxyGotMoxy. 2 роки тому

      One of my friends once used to play a deck he called Stax Atraxa Lotta Hate... it was (unsurprisingly) a budget Atraxa Stax deck that even still locked down the board *HARRRRRD* with control and stax pieces, dropped an Ichor Rats to give everyone a poison counter, and then just pinned you in place for a few turns until her proliferate killed you. It was disgustingly powerful.
      "Oh hey, I put Pollenbright Wings on my buffed Atraxa and hit you, end of turn I proliferate her +1/+1 counters and pump up my Smokestack. On your turn, please sacrifice 5 permanents. Oh its my turn again? Cool, I sacrifice the pollenbright wings saprolings. Move to combat."

  • @ironjawedangels2812
    @ironjawedangels2812 2 роки тому +1

    24:27 couldn't Josh have attacked Voxy with his two Ruin Grinders? And then Murph finishes her off on his turn? Instead he attacks Rebell who isn't doing basically anything? Seems like a misplay.

  • @2099arashiko
    @2099arashiko 2 роки тому +3

    Voxxy beat the guys like a boss, again

  • @nhogan84
    @nhogan84 2 роки тому

    When I saw the title, I immediately went "oh, Atraxa, easy." Glad to see I was spot on.

  • @HarmonicResonanceScale
    @HarmonicResonanceScale 2 роки тому +3

    Honestly the Tyranid Precon is insanely strong.

  • @spyreofthewolves8125
    @spyreofthewolves8125 10 місяців тому

    Aesi was the deck that got me into Magic. After 4.5 years it’s still my favorite, and my playgroup fears the Landfall Serpent 😂
    Glad to see it in some Gameplay.

  • @HiiroRocker101
    @HiiroRocker101 2 роки тому +6

    Despite the fact Murph lost, I think his deck was probably the strongest here. He became so powerful so quickly that the second and third strongest decks, Voxy and Josh, had to team up to take him out. Unfortunately Rebel's deck didn't perform this time so it's not really clear how good it is.

    • @PraiseGodandJesus528
      @PraiseGodandJesus528 2 роки тому

      Do you think it's a good deck for starters to use? Forest and island are my favorite and I feel like I can build on top of it to make it even better over time too

    • @HiiroRocker101
      @HiiroRocker101 2 роки тому +1

      @@PraiseGodandJesus528 Simic (blue and green together) and landfall decks are both incredibly powerful when done right. The only reason I'd steer away from them as a new player is because of what happened in this video. Murph essentially became the arch enemy, as we call it, because of how quickly his threat level grew. In my experience, it's common for people to gang up on green/Simic early because they expect it to run wild.

    • @PraiseGodandJesus528
      @PraiseGodandJesus528 2 роки тому +1

      @@HiiroRocker101 interesting, my goal for green/blue simic to to have plenty of counter spells, huge monsters, and then apply trample and hexproof to those monsters that kind of the theme I want to go for... That way even if I become the target I should be able to protect myself with counters and hexproof

    • @HiiroRocker101
      @HiiroRocker101 2 роки тому +1

      Another general tip is, proxy your decks before you buy them. Particularly in Commander, since some Commander decks can be pretty expensive. You wouldn't want to build even a $200 deck only to find out it duds every time you play a pod.

    • @PraiseGodandJesus528
      @PraiseGodandJesus528 2 роки тому

      @@HiiroRocker101 what does that mean?