Wow, great video! I know it's an old one but I'm behind the times because I'm just now looking at getting a CTX 3030 and indeed it comes with the 17-in coil and I'm buying the 6-in in addition to that. I sure appreciate you guys' videos and I love how you guys can Goof when there's time to goof and be serious when it's time to be serious. Very entertaining video. And very informative. You guys keep it up and I'll keep watching.
Thanks for the video. I've been using the CTX as much as possible for over a year now on land, beach and in the water. I still don't know the maximum depth of the 17 inch coil, but I did hit an 1841 largie (my first) at 18 inches. At the beach I recently found a very old 1 gram 10k ring at 8 inches that everyone else missed, so no doubt about getting tiny targets at depth. Couple suggestions on the settings. No need to ground balance the machine in most cases, just keep it in auto mode. Sensitivity works best in auto mode. Depending on conditions I usually set it at plus 2 or plus 3. In high iron I may drop it to minus 3. Manual sensitivity sets all frequencies to the same level and defeats the efficiency of using FBS. Don't use the saltwater setting unless you have no other choice as it will filter out small low tone signals. I missed a gold ring that way. Lastly, use the deep setting for best audio on those faint signals. Hope this helps! GL&HH
Brilliant test. My Son has just bought the 17 inch. We have a site where we found a Bronze age Hoard. In aprox 4 acres of pasture. We have hammered it with the ctx with the stock. And my Etrac with a 14 inch detech coil. Last time we did it with poles 5 hours 2 pieces of junk only. We are going this weekend with the 17 inch. And I have a new 13 inch ultimate coil on the Etrac. Your video gives us hope that the 17 will punch Deeper. See if we can find any more Axeheads. All the best Dave
+david hopper Oh man David! That sounds like an excellent site for it. It gets a little heavy after a bit. I shortend the shaft. It helped. Best of luck to you guys!
Been hunting with the 11 and 17 for about 3 seasons now. I like to go back through a site with the 17 after getting skunked a time or two with the 11. Pinpointing with the 17 is tough for me sometimes it seems like it under the M on the coil and other times it seems like it should be just south of the shaft. I wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with the shape of the signal and depth. The 11 I am almost dead on with pinpoint if target isnt on edge. Nice review and happy hunting!
Great demonstration, Kurt. I like how you detected the openholes prior to the plants to show people this was an honest demonstration. I love my big coil, but only use it in the places we've hunted to death and cleared most of the targets. In trashy or high EMI areas, it's tough to use without some frustration.
+alwaysseekingsilver Yes. That's the prefect reason to use the larger coils. This site is impossible with stock coils. It tough to get signals here at all anymore
Great job Kurt. I've used that fish'in line trick before on the Etrac so it was cool to see you suggesting the same thing. If the shaft was a little larger diameter or the knurled nut slightly smaller, the coil cables wouldn't be so hard to shove through.
Good review Kurt. I had the 17 inch coil for about a year but found no real advantage over the stock coil. It ended up on eBay. For me, it did not consistently produce deep diggable signals and most of the time targets were 2 to 3 inches less than stated on the machine. It's a very common problem with the 17 inch coil. For us in the old home sites, it's hard to get a good signal under that coil without a few nails due to its ridiculous size.
+Hooked on History Thank you! Yeah around home sites the stock is the way to go. I'm only going to use this at sites we've already pounded or open fields. I wish they made a 12 or 13" coil for it. A NEL Tornado would be a killer coil for the CTX. NEL doesn't make them yet. The 17 is a monster. Best of luck to you two
I have both machines and my etrac with the r&b innovations battery and the way I have it tuned hits better on really deep coins. Etrac is still my favorite machine.
Whoa! 42 degrees,, stiff wind,,, I thought changing the AT Pro connections were not so easy,,, fingers were not functioning here in "Cow Hampshire". I know the minelab is a great machine, but that seems less than ideal swapping coils. Please keep the reviews coming, I want a second machine(love my AT, (with NEL)), and the reviews really help. ALL holes matter!!!
+Erick Mischke I was dreading changing coils on the CTX. It wasn't that bad. You don't need the string trick. Just a little tip. I love my Pro/NEL myself. But it's always good to have a backup. My question to is. What do you want this second machine to do? Maybe I can point you in the right direction
In a word,,, gold rings. Got my first machine in February ,, major fast learning curve from a friend, 2 barber quarters, barber dime, multiple mercs,, 1802 large cent, 1888 Canadian large cent,,, I'm well over a hundy in clad,, buffs, 1852 ihp😁 water hunts,,, multiple silver rings,, WTF,, only1 gold filled ring! Is the AT missing these, or are they just not there?!?! Am I asking too much as a "newby"? Also, just ordered my stealth digger stickers,, you did a great job on those!!! And hey,,, thanks for the help!
+Erick Mischke thanks Erick! There plenty of gold out there. Just need to get the coil over it and want to dig mid and low tones. Most of my gold is old gold. Deep terrible signal, but if it's deep I'm digging it everytime. Best of luck to you finding more gold
Really terrific video. I love your presentation and you could really understand what you were saying. I also love that 17" coil. I have the CTX-3030 with the stock coil, but I live near the ocean in San Diego, so the bigger coil would be great for more ground coverage.
Hey Hoovers. Does your ctx 3030 have faint lines going from top to bottom of your screen? I ordered a ctx from Kellyco and when opened and turn it on that's what it had on the screen. Maybe the plastic on the screen needs to be removed I have not removed the plastic dudes thankx!
I knew this video was coming and I sure was surprised in the review. I've seen other videos where the CTX 17 inch coil made no difference in depth... MUCH TO MY SURPRISE and other detectorists have said that it's depth is off as much as two inches. . i.e. if it reads a target is at 10 inches the target is really at 8 inches. However, I do not own the 17 inch coil but know others that have had such an experience. I've been tempted to purchase the 17 inch coil and your video certainly does make a strong case for one to take the plunge. Keep digging Kurt. Good luck and Happy Hunting.😆
+Jps3bs Thanks Johnny. I am 100% super impressed with the coil so far. I can't wait to go back to that site and throw some time at it. I know I will be digging some great coins and relics out of there once again. That Happy Hunting Ground is no different. I know coins run deep there. It's a bit heavy but I shortened my shaft to take off some of the weight. Best of luck to you
Nice review, BUT one point is to not use ground balance just use the noise cancel. 11" coil will hit every target at 11" BUT and its a big one anything below 11" will be slightly fainter (even with volume gain at max) the 17" will get targets at 13" deep BUT give you an extra 6" coverage per swing. width of coil = depth. length of coil = coverage (ie. nose to tail).
Sweet video Kurt. Bigger coils are better going out with mine soon can't wait. And maybe I will find a IHP will take them all day long. 1877 would be amazing to find for my first IHP lol. Great comparison on different coils.
+tim janes Thank you Tim! Man I'm waiting so see a '77. The guy detecting when I was there dug a '77 at that site last year. It's gorgeous! Best of luck brother
That's awesome Kurt and if anyone could find a 1877 it would definitely be you brother. Thinking on getting me the same coil as you and use it all the time. The 17x15 is kind of big to swing.
On my birthday, Kurt I've got a question. I don't have this machine but do you after changing coils need to reset the machine to factory settings? Then set the machine and ground balance and start the hunt. Just curious.
Nice side by side comparison between the coils Kurt. At the top right of the screen when talking about the 17" coil at the end comparing the two coils, I thought I had a big frickin' spider on my flat screen monitor! Turned out to be part of a tree branch overhead. Check it out....looks like two large spider legs.....CREEPY! Best of Luck and HH. Silver King.
I guess my soil is really harsh. I buried a clad quarter at 7" and it is all the 17" coil will do. I first buried it at 10" and got nothing. I tried all the different settings but to no avail. I tried open screen, different tones, and every configuration. I dug down and buried it in the side wall as well. I moved over and buried it at 8" and got nothing. I can hit it at 7" but it isn't real solid. Out in the wild, I have pulled coins 7-8" deep. The CTX is really a coinshooter's machine. It is stable and decisive. I like the target trace and keep it on at all time. It helps to understand what is in the ground better. I also tried my safari to check against the CTX. The safari will hit the quarter at 6" but not very well.
You mention you've acquired a used Deus. I only own an AT Pro and have dreamed of a Deus purchase over this Winter. After seeing so many of my UK sub's use them am impressed but I've never seen one tested in your style of testing. Maybe down the road show us a little of that. I always enjoy your videos.
+Greg Appelgren Thanks Greg! I've used it twice to far. Very impressed. I have a lot to learn. I will definitely do some reviews once I have a good feeling for the machine
Hiya , tvm for the up-load, your test shows me that the bigger coil goes deeper than the " pro" ( my current coil ) and that the 11" loses targets at somewhere between 10 and 12 inches, would you happen to know at what depth the 17" also loses the signal ? is it just 2" deeper ? or would it "hit" at say 14 " or 16" or maybe even more ? tia .
I've never dug a coin past 9-10" with the 17" coil. It's hard to say where it would cut off. The ground was wet his day. The 17" gets heavy fast but it gets plenty deep
+Canadian Diggers Channel It all depends what works at a site. There's nothing wrong with the Stock coil. But if you need an extra boost in depth the Larger coils are amazing
Impressive. Thanks for putting the review up. I recon the bigger coil would take its toll on your arm and shoulder. bungy cord and harness would be the go for all day hunts. Cheers.
Great video, I live in Wooster Ohio and currently use a Tosoro compadre. I'm looking to up grade next year and am torn between the Garret AT pro or the minelab 30/30. Thanks again.
+Hey Mom Look What I Found!!!! Thank you! Both great machines. Both water proof. Way more options with the Minelab. I love the sounds the Pro makes. Best of luck whatever route you go.
Would you write down what you ran that program out for me? I recently purchased the CTX 3030 and it came with the Stock 11" and the 17" also. Still trying to learn the machine and would like to see that program in writing so that I can try it. Thanks!
+Michael Ballard Go to the coins program and edit. Response- normal, tones- combined, fast- off, deep- on, seawater-on (I always keep it on. There's salt everywhere), Ferrous-coin. Manual sensitivity as high as you can without getting chatter. Best of luck
It's a nice coil for the CTX for sure. Though it seems a bit of a pain to change coils. My hunting buddy has his 17 on 99% of the time even in high trash areas - making me wonder what he's missing. Thanks.
+MDGear I'm super impressed. I can't wait to use it some more. I wouldn't try this thing in trash. Open fields or hammered sites- you bet. It really want bad changing the coil.
Just got a 17" coil and cant wait to try it out, I noticed you must be in my neck of the woods with Ravens and O's stickers, I hunt in the Carroll County area, would love to try some new area's if you could share the location of that field?
Good luck with it. Yes. I'm a Baltimore boy. We don't share sites on the web. If you're looking for a club. We meet the last Thursday of every month. marylandfreestateclub.com/index.html You will learn about this place there...
Awesome Job, I need to get a bigger coil for my machine. I dont have a CTX but i can get a DD coil for my Titan 9000. I know ive missed out on some deeper targets. So thanks for the demonstration. And as always GL&HH
Nice video and comparison buddy! I've been thinking about getting a 17 incher.. As long as I use it more than my small coil it will be a good investment I'm sure!
+Pull tab Patriot When the screen has a pattern on it its blocking out the shaded areas. That's your discrimination. The more discrimination the less depth you achieve. That's why on a flaky signal you can open up the screen and get more information/depth, hear if iron is close and hopefully have a better signal. It's an awesome machine. Thank you Robert!
Might as well transfer your Hoover sticker onto this machine Kurt lol ..good demo I own both and shafts . Shafts are outrageous in price . Love my ctx though . Happy hunting bro
Was that the unofficial Kellyco commercial? Nice! I love that digging spot as well. I found my one and only flying eagle penny there. So what did Gary dig?
+PA Mountain Girl We love it there as well. It's gotten harder and harder finding good targets there. We know there's more there just have to dig the iron out of the way. Gary didn't find anything when I checked in with him. I'm sure he found something. He always does
Nice video comparison. Hey, just curious, when you show your settings, why salt water on? I never have mine on unless I'm at the beach. Is it a factor in getting greater depth, or the soil perhaps? Anyway, just starting watching your videos, but I like them.
+Relic Ryan Thanks Ryan! I have better response with salt on. The machine runs smoother in my ground. I always run with it on now. No matter where I am. Just my preference
+Hooper45 Thanks! Hooper! Do I prefer it? No. They both have there place in the detecting world. I will always use my Pro along with other detectors. I love the sounds the pro makes
@ 12:55, "It's hard to find clad here." Why don't you just rub it in our faces Kurt. Geez. Oh just another IHP, just another Barber, just another.... It's bad enough you guys treat wheaties like pull tabs. LOL. Just going back to your past episodes. Great videos. H.H. _/
sweet test on the 17" coil. I'm hoping to have one real soon! and what's up with the dislikes on the video? are the trolls out thick this time of year or what?!?!
+Diggin With Eddie Thank you Eddie! I need to get some more time on that coil. I'm blown away at the results. Can't wait to throw some real time at it. There will always be trolls. They don't bother me. Jealousy is a bitter emotion. Kids will be kids
Great video and informative. Im thinking about getting the 17” coil for my CTX. I’ve done very well in the fields with the 11” coil it would be great to have he 17” to go over some of the sites I’ve already done well at. Thanks, WD
+Westmoreland Detecting Awesome! That's what I'm going to use it for. Hit those sites that we've already had great success in hopes to pull out a few more goodies. Best of luck!
So let me get this straight 17 inch coil goes deeper than the 11 inch coil. So why did you use the 11 inch coil to check the holes in the beginning of this video. Knowing very well that the 17 inch would go deeper. why Didn't you use that to check the holes?
Great review!! I have been thinking about the 17in for my Etrac. I may just have to pull the trigger on one. I have 5 pounded ball fields I would love to hit with that coil. HH
+Dinger51 Sounds like the perfect reason. My favorite thing to do is hit pounded sites with my deeper coils. They have been very good to me. Best of luck
aluminium? You been watching too many English videos. lol. Btw, this isn't really a comparison of the two coils. I'm not mad I watched the video, I liked it, but the title is misleading. I dunno...minelab says the dd design results in coils of different sizes getting the same depth, only the footprint changes. I'm constantly making finds in hunted out areas, and I mean areas I hunted out myself, pounded to death myself, and yet out comes another target I shouldn't have missed earlier. It's uncanny, but I do think switching coils up or down can make a difference, for whatever reason it may be.
For the price it should have no problem with the stock coil. Very sad on Minelabs part. A 2,500 dollar detector which isn't wireless. I would expect it to pick it up with a UFO saucer on the end of it 😂😂😂I'll keep my whites V3i over this any day and pocket the thousand dollars left over. Just my 2 cents
Just bought a ctx 3030 and that’s a great review. And I work the beach a lot. Now I’m going to buy that coil thank you again
Good luck!
I strongly recommend you turn off sea water as this reduces depth when not on beach
Wow, great video! I know it's an old one but I'm behind the times because I'm just now looking at getting a CTX 3030 and indeed it comes with the 17-in coil and I'm buying the 6-in in addition to that. I sure appreciate you guys' videos and I love how you guys can Goof when there's time to goof and be serious when it's time to be serious. Very entertaining video. And very informative. You guys keep it up and I'll keep watching.
Thanks Hoover Boys, this video has sold me on the CTX 3030 I will purchase this machine very soon. Mine Lab made a gem.
Good luck with it! Look into the Equinox 800 as well. Great machines
Thanks for the video. I've been using the CTX as much as possible for over a year now on land, beach and in the water. I still don't know the maximum depth of the 17 inch coil, but I did hit an 1841 largie (my first) at 18 inches. At the beach I recently found a very old 1 gram 10k ring at 8 inches that everyone else missed, so no doubt about getting tiny targets at depth.
Couple suggestions on the settings. No need to ground balance the machine in most cases, just keep it in auto mode. Sensitivity works best in auto mode. Depending on conditions I usually set it at plus 2 or plus 3. In high iron I may drop it to minus 3. Manual sensitivity sets all frequencies to the same level and defeats the efficiency of using FBS. Don't use the saltwater setting unless you have no other choice as it will filter out small low tone signals. I missed a gold ring that way. Lastly, use the deep setting for best audio on those faint signals. Hope this helps! GL&HH
Love the review. Didn’t realize the bigger coil would get that much deeper. Thanks for the knowledge.
Brilliant test. My Son has just bought the 17 inch. We have a site where we found a Bronze age Hoard. In aprox 4 acres of pasture. We have hammered it with the ctx with the stock. And my Etrac with a 14 inch detech coil. Last time we did it with poles 5 hours 2 pieces of junk only. We are going this weekend with the 17 inch. And I have a new 13 inch ultimate coil on the Etrac. Your video gives us hope that the 17 will punch Deeper. See if we can find any more Axeheads. All the best Dave
+david hopper Oh man David! That sounds like an excellent site for it. It gets a little heavy after a bit. I shortend the shaft. It helped. Best of luck to you guys!
Been hunting with the 11 and 17 for about 3 seasons now. I like to go back through a site with the 17 after getting skunked a time or two with the 11. Pinpointing with the 17 is tough for me sometimes it seems like it under the M on the coil and other times it seems like it should be just south of the shaft. I wouldn't be surprised if it has to do with the shape of the signal and depth. The 11 I am almost dead on with pinpoint if target isnt on edge. Nice review and happy hunting!
Yes that 17" gets heavy quick but the depth is awesome. All the best!
Great demonstration, Kurt. I like how you detected the openholes prior to the plants to show people this was an honest demonstration. I love my big coil, but only use it in the places we've hunted to death and cleared most of the targets. In trashy or high EMI areas, it's tough to use without some frustration.
+alwaysseekingsilver Yes. That's the prefect reason to use the larger coils. This site is impossible with stock coils. It tough to get signals here at all anymore
Always like looking back at your old vids ,
Haha! Thanks Martin
I’m beginner of ctx 3030 please give me instructions
Great job Kurt. I've used that fish'in line trick before on the Etrac so it was cool to see you suggesting the same thing. If the shaft was a little larger diameter or the knurled nut slightly smaller, the coil cables wouldn't be so hard to shove through.
+Jim Jackson (Lost History Found) Thanks James! Yes it would
Good review Kurt. I had the 17 inch coil for about a year but found no real advantage over the stock coil. It ended up on eBay. For me, it did not consistently produce deep diggable signals and most of the time targets were 2 to 3 inches less than stated on the machine. It's a very common problem with the 17 inch coil. For us in the old home sites, it's hard to get a good signal under that coil without a few nails due to its ridiculous size.
+Hooked on History Thank you! Yeah around home sites the stock is the way to go. I'm only going to use this at sites we've already pounded or open fields. I wish they made a 12 or 13" coil for it. A NEL Tornado would be a killer coil for the CTX. NEL doesn't make them yet. The 17 is a monster. Best of luck to you two
great comparison video Kurt. Love seeing the head to heads. great job
+swanzeysearcher Thanks brother!
May I ask what R your thoughts of the CTX 3030 VS a GER detect UIG ground scanner metal detector. ?
Nice comparison.... thanks so much. My friend run that beast at the beach and he digs some deepass targets, almost to deep. Thanks again Kurt. GL & HH
+TheSilversniffer My pleaser! It's exactly what I needed for the CTX to keep up at our sites
I have both machines and my etrac with the r&b innovations battery and the way I have it tuned hits better on really deep coins. Etrac is still my favorite machine.
Very nice review. Can't believe you've had that 3030 that long. Time flies.
+Trooper Bri Thanks Brian! Yes. It does fly...
Very good comparison Kurt. Nice digs... 6:15 CLOSE YOUR BOX...
+NH treasurehunter Hahaha! My box is always open for you
great demo video. The only bad thing about this time of year is the shortage of daylight. that new shirt looks great on ya buddy
+DDM Metal Detectives Thank you! The sun goes down way too fast!
Whoa! 42 degrees,, stiff wind,,, I thought changing the AT Pro connections were not so easy,,, fingers were not functioning here in "Cow Hampshire". I know the minelab is a great machine, but that seems less than ideal swapping coils. Please keep the reviews coming, I want a second machine(love my AT, (with NEL)), and the reviews really help. ALL holes matter!!!
+Erick Mischke I was dreading changing coils on the CTX. It wasn't that bad. You don't need the string trick. Just a little tip. I love my Pro/NEL myself. But it's always good to have a backup. My question to is. What do you want this second machine to do? Maybe I can point you in the right direction
the 17" coil works amazingly well over here in the UK awsome coil makes a good detector an outstanding detector so glad I bought one money well spent
+Gerry G Great news Gerry! Happy it works for you. Best of luck
In a word,,, gold rings. Got my first machine in February ,, major fast learning curve from a friend, 2 barber quarters, barber dime, multiple mercs,, 1802 large cent, 1888 Canadian large cent,,, I'm well over a hundy in clad,, buffs, 1852 ihp😁 water hunts,,, multiple silver rings,, WTF,, only1 gold filled ring! Is the AT missing these, or are they just not there?!?! Am I asking too much as a "newby"? Also, just ordered my stealth digger stickers,, you did a great job on those!!! And hey,,, thanks for the help!
+Erick Mischke thanks Erick! There plenty of gold out there. Just need to get the coil over it and want to dig mid and low tones. Most of my gold is old gold. Deep terrible signal, but if it's deep I'm digging it everytime. Best of luck to you finding more gold
Really terrific video. I love your presentation and you could really understand what you were saying. I also love that 17" coil. I have the CTX-3030 with the stock coil, but I live near the ocean in San Diego, so the bigger coil would be great for more ground coverage.
Thanks. Best of luck out there
Does the saltwater setting help with intensity or something?
thanks for this video. why seawater on the field?
It’s close to saltwater. The mist travels
Hey Hoovers. Does your ctx 3030 have faint lines going from top to bottom of your screen? I ordered a ctx from Kellyco and when opened and turn it on that's what it had on the screen. Maybe the plastic on the screen needs to be removed I have not removed the plastic dudes thankx!
That's your discrimination pattern. The dark areas is what your discriminating
keep up the great video guys. love watching everything you have posted
+Porman44 Thank you very much! Will do
Get a body strap to reduce the weight of a 17" coil, I got the Gizmo for the at pro and it made the 8.5x11 feel like it was lighter then the 5x8.
+Jason Dent Yeah. You almost have to, the 17" kills my back after a few hours. Love the depth though
Great review Kurt, and nice find on the 1908 IHP
LFOD, GL & HH
+Norman Hirtle Thank you Norman! Best of luck to you
I knew this video was coming and I sure was surprised in the review. I've seen other videos where the CTX 17 inch coil made no difference in depth... MUCH TO MY SURPRISE and other detectorists have said that it's depth is off as much as two inches. . i.e. if it reads a target is at 10 inches the target is really at 8 inches. However, I do not own the 17 inch coil but know others that have had such an experience. I've been tempted to purchase the 17 inch coil and your video certainly does make a strong case for one to take the plunge. Keep digging Kurt. Good luck and Happy Hunting.😆
+Jps3bs Thanks Johnny. I am 100% super impressed with the coil so far. I can't wait to go back to that site and throw some time at it. I know I will be digging some great coins and relics out of there once again. That Happy Hunting Ground is no different. I know coins run deep there. It's a bit heavy but I shortened my shaft to take off some of the weight. Best of luck to you
Love the review, if I could only afford one. I'll stick with my ATP!
Nice review, BUT one point is to not use ground balance just use the noise cancel.
11" coil will hit every target at 11" BUT and its a big one anything below 11" will be slightly fainter (even with volume gain at max) the 17" will get targets at 13" deep BUT give you an extra 6" coverage per swing.
width of coil = depth. length of coil = coverage (ie. nose to tail).
Sweet video Kurt. Bigger coils are better going out with mine soon can't wait. And maybe I will find a IHP will take them all day long. 1877 would be amazing to find for my first IHP lol. Great comparison on different coils.
+tim janes Thank you Tim! Man I'm waiting so see a '77. The guy detecting when I was there dug a '77 at that site last year. It's gorgeous! Best of luck brother
That's awesome Kurt and if anyone could find a 1877 it would definitely be you brother. Thinking on getting me the same coil as you and use it all the time. The 17x15 is kind of big to swing.
Yeah that thing looks crazy big
Awesome video Kurt Franz. I have a CTX and really need that 17 inch coil for one of my worked out sites.
+Donnie Bailey Thank you! That's what I'm going to use it for
On my birthday, Kurt I've got a question. I don't have this machine but do you after changing coils need to reset the machine to factory settings? Then set the machine and ground balance and start the hunt. Just curious.
+F75 digger On the CTX all the coils are plug and play. The machine recognizes the coil. Very nice. Yes you sound always GB
Nice side by side comparison between the coils Kurt. At the top right of the screen when talking about the 17" coil at the end comparing the two coils, I thought I had a big frickin' spider on my flat screen monitor! Turned out to be part of a tree branch overhead. Check it out....looks like two large spider legs.....CREEPY! Best of Luck and HH. Silver King.
+James Lee Hahahaha! That's creepy! Nice eye! Best of luck
I guess my soil is really harsh. I buried a clad quarter at 7" and it is all the 17" coil will do. I first buried it at 10" and got nothing. I tried all the different settings but to no avail. I tried open screen, different tones, and every configuration. I dug down and buried it in the side wall as well. I moved over and buried it at 8" and got nothing. I can hit it at 7" but it isn't real solid. Out in the wild, I have pulled coins 7-8" deep. The CTX is really a coinshooter's machine. It is stable and decisive. I like the target trace and keep it on at all time. It helps to understand what is in the ground better. I also tried my safari to check against the CTX. The safari will hit the quarter at 6" but not very well.
Different soil can make all the difference. What works for some won’t work for other. Just need to keep playing with settings. Good luck!
You mention you've acquired a used Deus. I only own an AT Pro and have dreamed of a Deus purchase over this Winter. After seeing so many of my UK sub's use them am impressed but I've never seen one tested in your style of testing. Maybe down the road show us a little of that. I always enjoy your videos.
+Greg Appelgren Thanks Greg! I've used it twice to far. Very impressed. I have a lot to learn. I will definitely do some reviews once I have a good feeling for the machine
Hiya , tvm for the up-load, your test shows me that the bigger coil goes deeper than the " pro" ( my current coil ) and that the 11" loses targets at somewhere between 10 and 12 inches, would you happen to know at what depth the 17" also loses the signal ? is it just 2" deeper ? or would it "hit" at say 14 " or 16" or maybe even more ? tia .
I've never dug a coin past 9-10" with the 17" coil. It's hard to say where it would cut off. The ground was wet his day. The 17" gets heavy fast but it gets plenty deep
tvm 4 the reply :-)
@@thehooverboys Is it possible for you to do a test to see which is the maximum depth that this unit can detect with the 17" coil?
I own a few large coils ..I seem to gravitate back to my 10 or 11 inch Coils.
Nice Job on the comparisons ....
+Canadian Diggers Channel It all depends what works at a site. There's nothing wrong with the Stock coil. But if you need an extra boost in depth the Larger coils are amazing
yup you need the right conditions to be able to use the large coils. open fields little trash...
Great Video Kurt!! I know what I'm asking for come xmas.
+Tim Lindsay Hahaha! Awesome Tim! That would be awesome of Santa
Very well done, extremely informative and enjoyable to watch. Marc
Thank you for the kind words. Best of luck out there
Impressive. Thanks for putting the review up. I recon the bigger coil would take its toll on your arm and shoulder. bungy cord and harness would be the go for all day hunts.
Cheers.
+Coyote Rider Yes. That coil will get very heavy in a short amount of time. I don't mine the pain if I'm digging the old stuff. Cheers!
Great video, I live in Wooster Ohio and currently use a Tosoro compadre. I'm looking to up grade next year and am torn between the Garret AT pro or the minelab 30/30. Thanks again.
+Hey Mom Look What I Found!!!! Thank you! Both great machines. Both water proof. Way more options with the Minelab. I love the sounds the Pro makes. Best of luck whatever route you go.
That'd be nice for some pounded sites. Going deep is never a bad thing. Prolly have to pick up a swinging harness tho. Worth it!
Yeah she gets heavy quick
Would you write down what you ran that program out for me? I recently purchased the CTX 3030 and it came with the Stock 11" and the 17" also. Still trying to learn the machine and would like to see that program in writing so that I can try it. Thanks!
+Michael Ballard Go to the coins program and edit. Response- normal, tones- combined, fast- off, deep- on, seawater-on (I always keep it on. There's salt everywhere), Ferrous-coin. Manual sensitivity as high as you can without getting chatter. Best of luck
+The Hoover Boys Thank you very much
+The Hoover Boys In the vid you said something about bringing it to Mode 8, could you explain that to me?
I just took the stock program and edited it. Then saved it as a new program. Default named it mode 8. I can rename it if I want
+The Hoover Boys Thanks!
It's a nice coil for the CTX for sure. Though it seems a bit of a pain to change coils. My hunting buddy has his 17 on 99% of the time even in high trash areas - making me wonder what he's missing. Thanks.
+MDGear I'm super impressed. I can't wait to use it some more. I wouldn't try this thing in trash. Open fields or hammered sites- you bet. It really want bad changing the coil.
Just got a 17" coil and cant wait to try it out, I noticed you must be in my neck of the woods with Ravens and O's stickers, I hunt in the Carroll County area, would love to try some new area's if you could share the location of that field?
Good luck with it. Yes. I'm a Baltimore boy. We don't share sites on the web. If you're looking for a club. We meet the last Thursday of every month.
marylandfreestateclub.com/index.html
You will learn about this place there...
I picked up the 17... Can't wait to swing it on the beaches here.
Be well,
Al-Fu
+Als AllMetalDetecting awesome Al! Good luck. She gets heavy fast
Harness?
It would definitely help out a lot
I'm thinking of getting one should I?
It's heavy but it will get down there
Awesome Job, I need to get a bigger coil for my machine. I dont have a CTX but i can get a DD coil for my Titan 9000. I know ive missed out on some deeper targets. So thanks for the demonstration. And as always GL&HH
+History Digger Thanks. My pleasure. I think everyone should have 3 coils. Big, stock, and small. That way you're ready for any site. Best of luck
Nice video and comparison buddy! I've been thinking about getting a 17 incher.. As long as I use it more than my small coil it will be a good investment I'm sure!
+Two Tone Joe Thanks Joe! I'd love to hit the Bruno school or whatever that place is called with it. You know there's more there
Great reveiw Kurt ! the only gold I ever found was with that big coil ! thanks for sharing ! HH !
+coinshooter Roby Thanks Roby! That's awesome! I'm do for some gold. HH
I am lost with "open the screen up" I have no idea what that does.... but dang great job on this video... wish I had the money for this detector!
+Pull tab Patriot When the screen has a pattern on it its blocking out the shaded areas. That's your discrimination. The more discrimination the less depth you achieve. That's why on a flaky signal you can open up the screen and get more information/depth, hear if iron is close and hopefully have a better signal. It's an awesome machine. Thank you Robert!
+The Hoover Boys Thanks Kurt
Anytime
Might as well transfer your Hoover sticker onto this machine Kurt lol ..good demo I own both and shafts . Shafts are outrageous in price . Love my ctx though . Happy hunting bro
+Roy Leitem Hahaha! Thanks Roy! That coil made a world of difference on those targets. Can't wait to use it again. Love the depth of that bad boy. HH
Was that the unofficial Kellyco commercial? Nice! I love that digging spot as well. I found my one and only flying eagle penny there. So what did Gary dig?
+PA Mountain Girl We love it there as well. It's gotten harder and harder finding good targets there. We know there's more there just have to dig the iron out of the way. Gary didn't find anything when I checked in with him. I'm sure he found something. He always does
Now that was a great test....I don't think air tests are very accurate....as always...great video!
Thanks. Air test will dive you some sort of idea but nothing is like the real thing
forget the string just give the coil wire a little stretch and shake it through. Anfibio would eat both of those deep quarters for breakfast...
very good comparison test..I guess size does matter after all!!!
+William 9 Hahaha! When it come to getting real deep... Yes!
Nice video comparison. Hey, just curious, when you show your settings, why salt water on? I never have mine on unless I'm at the beach. Is it a factor in getting greater depth, or the soil perhaps? Anyway, just starting watching your videos, but I like them.
+Relic Ryan Thanks Ryan! I have better response with salt on. The machine runs smoother in my ground. I always run with it on now. No matter where I am. Just my preference
Well done buddy! Nice job!
+Ohio Metal Detecting Thank you Josh!
Excellent review and hunt kurt. Do you prefer that detector over the garrett at pro ?
+Hooper45 Thanks! Hooper! Do I prefer it? No. They both have there place in the detecting world. I will always use my Pro along with other detectors. I love the sounds the pro makes
@ 12:55, "It's hard to find clad here." Why don't you just rub it in our faces Kurt. Geez. Oh just another IHP, just another Barber, just another.... It's bad enough you guys treat wheaties like pull tabs. LOL. Just going back to your past episodes. Great videos. H.H. _/
Hahaha! I love Indians and Wheats. Said that to show how hunted out this place is. All th best
@@thehooverboys- Yea, that's what I figured. You guys have hit that area pretty hard.
sweet test on the 17" coil. I'm hoping to have one real soon! and what's up with the dislikes on the video? are the trolls out thick this time of year or what?!?!
+Diggin With Eddie Thank you Eddie! I need to get some more time on that coil. I'm blown away at the results. Can't wait to throw some real time at it. There will always be trolls. They don't bother me. Jealousy is a bitter emotion. Kids will be kids
Great video and informative. Im thinking about getting the 17” coil for my CTX. I’ve done very well in the fields with the 11” coil it would be great to have he 17” to go over some of the sites I’ve already done well at.
Thanks,
WD
+Westmoreland Detecting Awesome! That's what I'm going to use it for. Hit those sites that we've already had great success in hopes to pull out a few more goodies. Best of luck!
awesome video nice comparison love those ihps
+Alan Sullivan Thank you. She's been working great. Gets heavy pretty quick but the depth is awesome
Great Video Kurt...Thanks for sharing. I'm sold! Gregg
+Smells Like Silver ™ Thank you Gregg. I can't wait to use it some more. It's a beast!
+The Hoover Boys I Just Ordered One Today!
Good Luck!
So let me get this straight 17 inch coil goes deeper than the 11 inch coil. So why did you use the 11 inch coil to check the holes in the beginning of this video. Knowing very well that the 17 inch would go deeper. why Didn't you use that to check the holes?
+Life pranks So I wouldn't have to change coils 3 times. Why didn't you check the holes with the 17" coil? Riddle me that
Damn! How much silver is in a 9" Mercury and a 12" Washington? EAT YOUR LUNCH!!! Awesome vids chief.
+Matthew Summers (Diggin' Maryland) Hahaha! Enough silver for me to get all happy when I dig them. Thanks Matthew!
Seems like a good coil.
+Digging Australia I'm impressed. Can't wait to use it again
Great review!! I have been thinking about the 17in for my Etrac. I may just have to pull the trigger on one. I have 5 pounded ball fields I would love to hit with that coil. HH
+Dinger51 Sounds like the perfect reason. My favorite thing to do is hit pounded sites with my deeper coils. They have been very good to me. Best of luck
Nice review boys!!
Much appreciated. Thank you
nice? mabye horrible for HC CTX users
Nice review!
Kurt, Honestly....could you see yourself swinging the 3030 all day with that coil?
Why saltwater on?
Lots of minerals in my area. It's how I like it
Muy buen test de comparacion si señor
helped me make up my mind THANKS!
+dark star My pleasure
I would love to take that beast out in some fields in my area.
She gets deep!
Coins sink deep? Lol great vid bud
+Coin Whisperer Hahahaha! You lucky bum.
Hello boy I'd like to make a purchase. Would you please tell me? What is the price of 3030 metal detector in Bangladesh? Please
aluminium? You been watching too many English videos. lol. Btw, this isn't really a comparison of the two coils. I'm not mad I watched the video, I liked it, but the title is misleading. I dunno...minelab says the dd design results in coils of different sizes getting the same depth, only the footprint changes. I'm constantly making finds in hunted out areas, and I mean areas I hunted out myself, pounded to death myself, and yet out comes another target I shouldn't have missed earlier. It's uncanny, but I do think switching coils up or down can make a difference, for whatever reason it may be.
Thank you for the support. We all miss targets. A lot of it’s mental. Confidence in your machine is key. HH
great info thanks
+Jon worthen My pleaser Jon
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Size matters you sure worked that big thing.
+Hoosier Diggin Some Hahaha! Walk low and swing a big coil
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+David Harrison Messages me your email or hit me up on Facebook
Just imagine what you would find if you guys used Minelabs lol!!!
We’d find the same stuff. Just less coins on edge. Just imagine what you would find if you had better sites. Lol
Great comparison video! ATB GL&HH
+DirtFishingCanada Much appreciated. Thanks! Best of luck
You should have use 50 conductive! I bet those coins would have screamed at you!!
+Duggr Im not a fan of the 50 tones. That's just me
Great review but you keep swinging that thing you will have them Popeye arms!!! Lol love the bigger coils!!! Awesome!!!
Hahaha! Yes. I definitely feel it in my lower back after a few hours. She gets deep though!
For the price it should have no problem with the stock coil. Very sad on Minelabs part. A 2,500 dollar detector which isn't wireless. I would expect it to pick it up with a UFO saucer on the end of it 😂😂😂I'll keep my whites V3i over this any day and pocket the thousand dollars left over. Just my 2 cents
Good call
CTX al day long "Deep Deep Deep ;-)))
LFOD!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You don't need to ground balance this machine.
If you want to DUMB down your 3030 run it on SALT WATER!
You know so much
Actually I think he's right. I was told by someone that works for minelab all the saltwater mode actually does is reduce the sensitivity by a bit.
fb just paid you again, and I gave a thumb down for my time
Much Appreciated! God Bless
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How do I get a shirt from you I always watch your shows on you tube and I've learned a lot from all of you
How do I get a shirt from you I always watch your shows on you tube and I've learned a lot from all of you thank you very much.
How do I get a shirt from you I always watch your shows on you tube and I've learned a lot from all of you thank you very much.