RECORDING AND MIXING ACOUSTIC GUITARS, Tone Secrets #6 feat. UAD SSL 4000E

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  •  4 роки тому +44

    I do a standing ovation everytime the video starts by showing the final product - so you know right off the bat if this is what you're looking for - and then proceed to the explanation.
    Pete won my sub in the first 10 secs.

  • @Mr.Seth1
    @Mr.Seth1 5 років тому +51

    Lots a dude talks about how to mic an acoustic but only a pro like Pete will talk about the most important subject like the guitar Pick.

  • @KleyDeJong
    @KleyDeJong 7 років тому +150

    I'm a simple man, I see a Pete Thorn video - I watch it - I like it.

  • @Mcqlfc
    @Mcqlfc Місяць тому

    I have been a guitarist for 40 years. Played in pro bands etc and then I see videos like yours and realise I'm still on the ground floor! Lovely playing Pete.

  • @francescodomenichetti3787
    @francescodomenichetti3787 Рік тому +1

    2023, still coming back to this video! Thank you Pete!

  • @thehoppo
    @thehoppo 7 років тому +41

    Hey Pete, been thinking about you a lot lately, hope you are holding up ok mate, thanks as always for sharing your vast knowledge so freely with us all, cheers and peace

  • @ValentineGoloubev
    @ValentineGoloubev 7 років тому +36

    Secrets:
    0. Pete's hands
    1. microphone positioning
    2. pick selection
    3. software plugins: uad channel strip, compressor, eq, high pass filter

  • @kamaboko1
    @kamaboko1 7 років тому +8

    I am always impressed by your playing. Seriously, you have the best, most original intro and demo songs of anything I've seen on UA-cam.

  • @heyitsDevriss
    @heyitsDevriss 7 років тому +186

    Tone secret #1 Use a Martin

    • @wyattalexander4041
      @wyattalexander4041 5 років тому +1

      Miguel Brierley facts but use an older Martin better wood 😎#barios

    • @Kleinsakkie
      @Kleinsakkie 4 роки тому +8

      As a Taylor owner I have to disagree. Just because I cannot (yet) afford to have both! 😅

    • @andreasoberholz
      @andreasoberholz 4 роки тому +2

      Having a well-balanced guitar helps, so true. Not all guitars work for tracking.... I have few ones which sound good, but they are not so great for recording.

    • @SimonSigurdsonMusic
      @SimonSigurdsonMusic 4 роки тому +1

      That’s actually more true than I’d like to admit. I had to sell my Martin D-28 although it was my best sounding guitar with the most character I have ever heard, the guitar was unfortunately not built to play a very percussive style with, so out of fear of breaking it I sold it.. Still miss it though..

    • @JoshuaDavid_Music
      @JoshuaDavid_Music 3 роки тому +1

      Amen to that. My Taylor gives me fits. My buddy’s Martin sounds night and day better using the same mic/pres.

  • @imaseeker100
    @imaseeker100 7 років тому +4

    i have to say....
    such quality all around. the music, the presentation, the video, the instruction, the insight.
    14 dislikes? whatever...

  • @philipgregorysougles1744
    @philipgregorysougles1744 7 років тому +2

    It's not easy to be a great musician, but it's even harder to be both a true artist and a talented instructor. Great work Mr. Thorn!

  • @Smittefar1
    @Smittefar1 7 років тому +3

    This is definitely one of the best videos, I have watched on recording and mixing acoustic guitar - And I have watched many, as it is something I struggle with. Thanks a lot.

  • @semtex6412
    @semtex6412 4 роки тому +1

    man this channel is a goldmine! why am i just seeing his vids now?

  • @hailepeep
    @hailepeep 7 років тому +3

    Embarrassed to only be able to say thank you for this wealth of information, Pete. Glad to see you back at it. Wish you all the best.

  • @miguelpessanha
    @miguelpessanha 7 років тому

    Hey Pete!
    Here's my favourite trick that I've discovered while recordings acoustic guitars at home - For all my solo melody acoustic guitars to cut through I always use a Dunlop 2mm Gator pick (crocodile). I can't stress how much difference it makes, the heavy thickness gives a lot of weight on the notes, but yet the gator material gives it a certain delicate softness. For hard panned rhythm than I use lighter tortex .73 or .88 so it doesn't overpower the mix. The funny thing is that I found that pick on the floor and it completely improved my acoustic recordings, more than a mic or a preamp itself. Get it and try it for lead acoustic guitars, I can guarantee is gonna because a standard for you!!
    Love these series, you keep delivering your information in a very organized and well spoken way. Keep it coming!

  • @GoodVibeTribe
    @GoodVibeTribe 6 років тому +1

    Dear Pete today is finally my day to slow down and express a huge THANK YOU for all your postings. I think I have seen every single one and I am continually impressed by your communication skills. Heck, its obvious you are a monster player, but you have a knack for breaking down relatively complex concepts into understandable youtube videos. Thanks so much for all the postings over the years and I certainly hope you derive joy from this because you are surely inspiring so many of your viewers. All the best to you Pete!

  • @toddbochenko963
    @toddbochenko963 2 роки тому

    Thank you for emphasizing cut first on the EQ!! As a musician turned FOH engineer I cannot count how many times an engineer immediately boosts. So wrong! Thank you again for talking about that!! Love your videos Pete. 🙏

  • @jeradatherton
    @jeradatherton 7 років тому +8

    Pete- thank you! You're the man. I appreciate your value for quality.

  • @MarkThomasMusic
    @MarkThomasMusic 6 років тому

    that intro was... "so beautiful" just doesn't do it justice. That intro is what love sounds like.

  • @TNStutorials
    @TNStutorials 7 років тому

    Those acoustics sound really rich and warm, you got a beautiful sound out of them

  • @snail415
    @snail415 7 років тому +3

    Pete,
    That had to be a tremendous amount of work. Can't thank you enough, as I added my first quality acoustic to the arsenal last week. Cheers.

  • @Stratomacaster
    @Stratomacaster 7 років тому +3

    These are sooooo helpful. Seriously, you could do a channel for just recording and mixing and it would be unlike all the others. I love these.

  • @TheStupidcomment
    @TheStupidcomment 7 років тому

    So glad you talked about picks. Too many guitarists don't know their picks!

  • @tuckerco100
    @tuckerco100 7 років тому +3

    Hey Pete, I've been a listener and subscriber for a while and always enjoy and appreciate your generous sharing of knowledge and insight. Your breakdown of the difference of picks made me comment for the first time. Just awesome. Thank you!

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 Рік тому

    You explain things so well in these tutorials; I mean really well you let us hear what your saying every time. Great info thanks Pete!

  • @sobellfanatic
    @sobellfanatic 7 років тому

    Pete just gives and gives and gives. So public spirited to selflessly share years of experience and insight that no doubt have been hard won for him. Thanks +++!

  • @davidwallace2344
    @davidwallace2344 7 років тому

    I found this video just as I was getting ready to record my Martin HD 28V using a Miktek C7e large diaphragm condenser mic. Your video was sooo enlightening, even down to thinking about pick selection. I was able to find UA's SSL 4000 E plugin collection on sale this week and got it. I can't tell you what a great help you've been! I feel as if I've been sitting in on a master class on the very subject I needed. How lucky am I? Thank you so much! I just became a fan!

    • @davidwallace2344
      @davidwallace2344 5 років тому

      BTW - Would love to see a you do a series on mixing/mastering with UA plugins. Your videos are straight ahead and for the most part easy to understand. Thanks for the lesson!

  • @greenman9123
    @greenman9123 Рік тому

    Nice I'm so glad you have content on recording. I sold all my pedals for a recording setup so I'm glad I can still use this channel!

  • @chemicle
    @chemicle 4 роки тому +2

    Perfect video at the right time - I was about ot start recording my acoustic and I appreciate the tips Pete.

  • @chiefindisguise
    @chiefindisguise 7 років тому

    Those guitars sound so beautiful on their own, awesome intruments.

  • @halfglassfull
    @halfglassfull 7 років тому

    My main acoustic is a Martin D35 dread very big low end sound (by design) and have struggled with my recording. This is very helpful can't wait to try this with my rig. Thanks Pete!

  • @JRandallS
    @JRandallS 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Pete, for these tips. I own a lot of this same UA gear and plug-ins, so the specificity is great. Another good UA plug-in for guitars is that Transient Designer. You can add or subtract pick attack, essentially erase finger noise etc.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  5 років тому +1

      Ya transient designer, cool on drums too!

  • @NiceChristianMan
    @NiceChristianMan 6 років тому +1

    Thank you Pete...... You are a great artist and a true SME with tech side of recording.... You are greatly appreciated.

  • @nickspearience
    @nickspearience 2 роки тому

    After years of watching… I finally subscribed. Love your videos, Pete!

  • @richpeltrick1492
    @richpeltrick1492 7 років тому

    Good to see you back, Pete. Been thinking about how you were doing since your last video.

  • @mykalmusic
    @mykalmusic 2 роки тому

    Best video on recording acoustic guitars that I've found yet. I love that you mentioned the guitar pick and how it affects the tone. Something I have previously overlooked. Game -changer. Thanks Pete! 👍

  • @andyracksthecams
    @andyracksthecams 10 місяців тому

    Thank you. Just waiting for a couple of preamps to arrive. Will do some acoustic recording first to really get to know how they fare, hence watching your video for tips. Tonnes of great info here.

  • @starsandguitars2050
    @starsandguitars2050 3 роки тому

    Thanks Pete. I don't know why I haven't seen this video before. It was fantastic.

  • @L.Scott_Music
    @L.Scott_Music 7 років тому +11

    Fantastic. I REALLY appreciate the attention to the self engineering tips. SUPER valuable info. Please continue on this subject. Thanks!

  • @conradmlynarski2280
    @conradmlynarski2280 3 роки тому

    For everyone wondering what model acoustic six string it is…it looks to be Martin Reimagined HD28. Tortoise pickguard with diamond and square fingerboard inlay give it away. Plus that’s what an HD28 sounds like. He also commented in another reply that he’s using Ernie Ball strings (11’s). What a great tone he has.

  • @jackprice7828
    @jackprice7828 6 років тому

    Pete that Martin sounds incredible. Sometimes acoustic guitars tend to have a dominant string. Typically the B or G. But that Martin sounds really balanced.

  • @JamesStaubes
    @JamesStaubes 7 років тому +1

    This was great Pete, thanks. Recording acoustics is definitely a different process than electrics. I appreciate this detailed look into your process. Learned a lot.

  • @danlampton
    @danlampton 7 років тому +3

    Could not agree more with your pick observation. Great stuff.

  • @jimmysedbrook2678
    @jimmysedbrook2678 7 років тому +1

    Thank You so much for sharing your wisdom and experience.
    I am always looking forward to your vids.
    Hope you are feeling better.
    Cheers

  • @AlexFernandezSMS
    @AlexFernandezSMS 7 років тому +1

    I feel like this was a very generous lesson that we all got for free! Thanks so much. This was informative, easy to follow, and also very illustrative the way you did the before and after with the audio processing. Awesome!

  • @DANWRIGHTITIS
    @DANWRIGHTITIS 2 роки тому

    Some great info- I had to grab the headphones and listen to whole thing again. The MIX is Spot On!!
    I GIG RIG use a Gretsch Rancher Junior (with upgraded Matrix piezo) plugged into an old Fishman PRO EQ2 that refuses to die after 15 years of regular use. 😁I discovered the TC Electronic BODYREZ a while ago.- I don´t know what it does but it does it very well & I wonder how i gigged for a dozen years without it. This pairs perfectly with the MINI HOF. Captain Anderton setting. I run on rechargeable R6 batteries too 😎 Cheers from Spain

  • @DanielRezendeGuitar
    @DanielRezendeGuitar 7 років тому +1

    You are really spreading wisdom from the "recording land". Amazing! Loved it!

  • @ewetoo
    @ewetoo 7 років тому

    This was really helpful to me, I don't have a high end DAW so most of my mixing is in post. I just have a large diaphram mic so I'm glad I don't have to muck around with stereo stuff.

  • @BrianCadoret
    @BrianCadoret 6 років тому

    Thanks Pete for the tutorial really makes a difference to the sound of my acoustic recordings.

  • @jakemitchell1671
    @jakemitchell1671 6 років тому +2

    So amazing to me how the quality of an acoustic guitar is so often associated with a deep, rich, wide, "resonant" tone - BIG. Then when we record them we work our butts off to get all that bigness out! lol. The best sounding acoustic guitar I record with is an older Alvarez that sounds a bit brittle by itself, but in the mix it sounds absolutely fantastic. Great video Pete!

    • @EricduToit
      @EricduToit 6 років тому

      I don't understand that either, but it has to sit somewhere in the mix right? (I'm new to recording)

    • @jakemitchell1671
      @jakemitchell1671 6 років тому +4

      @@EricduToit Yes, it does have to sit somewhere in the mix, and of course the different applications/needs/uses/tastes are infinite. So please don't take me to say there's any right or wrong way. And by all means there are times when the acoustic guitar does need to project "bigness"....full, rich, deep. For example, if the acoustic guitar is the primary instrument, or if the song starts with acoustic guitar with no or little accompaniment, then that big, resonant tone is great. But, much more often - for ME, anyway - the acoustic guitar is a secondary or tertiary sound, often desired for its percussive qualities or as a way to expand the frequence range of the rhythm tracks. Check out the "Nashville Tuning" for acoustic guitars to see how producers and session players have created a specialized instrument for just this purpose. It more or less formalizes the idea that for many applications the acoustic guitar requires almost no bass or low-mids at all! It's the top end "shimmer" that brings the track to life.

    • @tommacmillan8831
      @tommacmillan8831 4 роки тому

      @@jakemitchell1671 that's a great point. the acoustic guitar in the mix is a totally different beast to a solo acoustic guitar. I've been automating some EQ parameters for example in the intro of a song, where the acoustic is playing on its own, in order to allow the full range of the instrument through. then, when the other instruments and vocals come in, I introduce a low-mid cut and HPF that clears out some space in the mix. It's instructive to really listen to acoustic guitars in pro mixes - they are often just percussive, as you say, and all that you hear/perceive is high-mids and air. I go really aggressive with high pass filtering on loads of instruments, but it's starts to make a lot of sense with acoustics in a full band mix.

    • @pete3816
      @pete3816 3 роки тому

      Only in the context of a mix. Solo guitar we want to catch the full essence of the instrument.

  • @TavaresProject
    @TavaresProject 7 років тому +1

    Great Video. Acoustics always elude me....I find it so difficult to get them to sound good...And the pick tip I knew about years ago. God that you mentioned it. Thanks!

  • @feliceconte123
    @feliceconte123 6 років тому

    this is fantastic - setting up a home studio for acoustic recording and this is priceless - Thanks Pete, tons!

  • @johnnewton1830
    @johnnewton1830 7 років тому

    Wow, the info and quality of this video is off the charts. Super helpful and great playing too.

  • @petergraham4744
    @petergraham4744 7 років тому

    thanks pete thorn. I'll be watching more.

  • @alexmontalvo6854
    @alexmontalvo6854 7 років тому

    Thank you for your in-depth analysis on this. Who knew that a pick can make a huge difference!!! OMG I should buy a few different pick thickness just to experiment. Thanks Pete.

  • @robthequiet
    @robthequiet 7 років тому

    Thanks. really informative. Probably saved a couple of us mere mortals a few hours of recording school.

  • @TheBYRecords
    @TheBYRecords 7 років тому

    Thanks Pete! This was really helpful, it confirmed some of my best practices, taught me a few new tricks and introduced me to cool plugins I had not considered. Cheers to you!

  • @robertmessinger6053
    @robertmessinger6053 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, definitely not the first video where someone recommends a KM184 for recording acoustic guitar either. I was in the market for a good acoustic recording microphone very recently and ended up grabbing a WA84 from Warm Audio. Great components and about half the price of the 184. Really happy with this one, it certainly has an 84 vibe and it’s super affordable. At least worth checking out…

  • @kirstensray
    @kirstensray 7 років тому

    Thank you so much for this video. I haven't liked my recorded acoustic guitar tone and this gives me something new to try.

  • @9999plato
    @9999plato 7 років тому

    Pete I love your videos. You are so down to earth, real deal, mensch. Keep up the great work. This easily one of the the best place to pick up knowledge.

  • @findJLF
    @findJLF 7 років тому

    Floored, gob-smacked... a wonderful track and even more amazing demonstration of how to record and mix acoustic guitars, thank you Pete

  • @bmwm3cs
    @bmwm3cs 7 років тому

    Pete always comes up with great little demos. PLEASE do another album!

  • @jimamsden
    @jimamsden 7 років тому +1

    I find placing the mic at 1/2 the length of the string works well, especially if you are using a capo. It puts the mic where the secondary node of the string is strongest.

  • @martynkentfrancis
    @martynkentfrancis 7 років тому +1

    Double thumbs up dude, really insightful and clearly explained. Plus original music as always. What more could anyone want 😎

  • @dyonissiszoes3747
    @dyonissiszoes3747 2 роки тому

    SSL 4000 on acoustic is dope👍. Great advice here. Especially when showing that mic placement is key. Not mentioned but taming the transients with a limiter before or after compression/EQ (up to you and your tastes) does a great job of bringing the body forward and pushing the strings back a bit when mixing aggressive guitarists/styles 😉

  • @ajrugp
    @ajrugp 7 років тому

    You're amazing, Pete. Thanks for being so willing to share your vast knowledge.

  • @2Plus2isChicken2013
    @2Plus2isChicken2013 7 років тому

    I don't know a thing about recording, but you got some great acoustic sounds here, and the random Paul Gilbert pick made the video even more awesome than it already was!

  • @kevinoyster6937
    @kevinoyster6937 6 років тому

    Yeesss! I'll be applying these techniques to future acoustic EPs for sure! Thank you Pete for this insightful vid!

  • @marctrainor5595
    @marctrainor5595 6 років тому

    Thank you for taking the time to put this together. I learned a lot and you did a fabulous job of producing it. Marc Trainor

  • @rgb205
    @rgb205 7 років тому

    You're an awesome human Pete Thorn !!

  • @PatrickLimaspamcast
    @PatrickLimaspamcast 7 років тому +1

    Dude...beautiful tone, awesome secrets...thanks Pete. Still Praying for you and Chris' family.

  • @aronchas
    @aronchas 7 років тому +1

    Amazing guide to acoustic guitar recording. Easy to grasp all the concepts. Thanks for this gem! Peter :)

  • @dapperdanman1956
    @dapperdanman1956 7 років тому

    Thanks Pete thorn! for all your offerings!

  • @Skindred727
    @Skindred727 6 років тому +2

    My mind was actually blown when he mentioned the pick.

  • @XiyuYang
    @XiyuYang 6 років тому

    Thank you Pete! I can't tell how much I've learned from your videos, keep it up!

  • @spdgoat1
    @spdgoat1 7 років тому

    Excellent video, and fabulous tips, thanks! I'd love to see a similar video on putting together a mix in a live situation.

  • @drew4872
    @drew4872 Рік тому

    Nice work all around. Great command of acoustic guitars and mix.

  • @musicgearnetwork
    @musicgearnetwork 7 років тому +3

    Great video Pete

  • @tmacdaddy46
    @tmacdaddy46 7 років тому

    Pete thanks so much. Beautiful work musically and sonically - and your generosity in sharing your recording techniques is very much appreciated - and also freaking great !

  • @ThePanchomack
    @ThePanchomack 4 роки тому

    Terrific Video ... thanks so much for taking us through process! First things first, it starts with microphone position and sound that comes from the source. There is so much potential of shaping the sound before even hitting the first device ...without spending a dime ;) had to learn this the hard way. Love the way you explain the details and talk through the Video. great piece of music by the way... cheers

  • @tomcarlisle6936
    @tomcarlisle6936 5 років тому

    Hey Pete; Nice work, well played! I thought I was looking at my guitar rack! Martins & Taylors, can't beat em! I really love my Taylor dreadnaught, 855 bought in "83. Had to send it back to Taylor in 2005, it had developed a bump in the fingerboard (ebony), brazilian rosewood back/sides and I didn't want to fret level it in that register. After MANY sleepless nights worrying the tone was gonna change but, my luck prevailed and it sounded BETTER than before. One successful customer/support experience! Thank God! Anyway, thanks for all the great advice! Ill put it to practice! Tom

  • @SonicRSA1
    @SonicRSA1 7 років тому

    Hi Pete. What a superb video! Just the kind of detail I've been looking for. Only just discovered your channel so looking forward to checking out everything else. Much appreicated and good health to you.

  • @ethandorsett4895
    @ethandorsett4895 7 років тому

    Pete thank you for your awesome advice! I always find your videos both helpful and entertaining! Your a great engineer as well as an amazing player!

  • @ericgruber_guitarded
    @ericgruber_guitarded 7 років тому

    Thanks Pete! Always enjoy your videos. Really useful and helpful. Long time subscriber and I tell you what I've learned a ton from these videos. Hope your doing well and thanks again.

  • @paulheumiller2028
    @paulheumiller2028 2 роки тому

    Hi Pete, Paul from Dream Guitars, great video as always Truly appreciate you sharing your experience, passion and love for music! Cheers.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  2 роки тому

      Thank you so much Paul!

  • @gregwixted
    @gregwixted 4 роки тому

    This was a great video. I just bought an Apollo X and am in the market for a great all purpose channel strip for tracking vocals, guitars (acoustic and electric), and bass. Definitely going to demo the 4000 E. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @xplorer3475
    @xplorer3475 7 років тому

    thanks very much for the démonstrations ! i think i asked you this question on fb about the drum and the basse the environment, not so long before you made this video, and now i see that you talk about it, aside from the acoustic guitar recording technic explained. So if you remembered my question ( answered on fb also, thanks ) , and put it in this video because of it, thanks very much Pete ! ;)

  • @CMGAGE
    @CMGAGE 7 років тому

    Boom anther brilliant vid, with a beautiful track showcasing a genuine talent, simple as that, but also love his tips etc on playing the instrument he clearly loves loves. I have learnt so much from watching his video's...and you just get the vibe Pete is genuinely cool dude as well.

  • @fadermaster5221
    @fadermaster5221 Рік тому

    Thank you for the effort put into this. I think however that A/B-ing is easier without crossfading between versions.

  • @paulkixx5125
    @paulkixx5125 7 років тому

    thank you so much for making this one mate, this video was perfect timing for me has I've been searching for tips with acoustic guitar mixing and recording this past week and this is by far the best one. stunning playing mate.

    • @paulkixx5125
      @paulkixx5125 7 років тому

      p.s awesome tip on the picks never thought about the pick thing before.

  • @GScott50
    @GScott50 5 років тому

    The pick tip gave me a light-bulb moment - thanks Pete!

  • @JamesJohnson-hb1me
    @JamesJohnson-hb1me 7 років тому

    Today is a great day! Thank you for the video and all the really good insight. Thank you very much Pete!

  • @kevincourcey813
    @kevincourcey813 5 років тому

    Hey Pete- this one is going to make the rounds of all my musician friends. Great info, well presented...as usual!

  • @gregorypease213
    @gregorypease213 7 років тому

    Fantastic video, as usual, filled with useful information. Thanks Pete!

  • @Roberto_Narvaez
    @Roberto_Narvaez 5 років тому

    Great video. It is a pleasure watching how you play the guitars. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and knowledge!

  • @jeffmarso2163
    @jeffmarso2163 7 років тому

    Thanks for the GREAT tips, Pete! You have inspired me once again! Love your lessons and your demos, man!

  • @kodedstudios6112
    @kodedstudios6112 6 років тому +5

    God bless you sir....awesome info

  • @shiroumxm2052
    @shiroumxm2052 4 роки тому

    jesus, a bunch of very useful information here!! thanks A LOT for sharing your knowledge.. as a noob myself this kind of lessons are a bless. Greeting from México!

  • @sethjohnson6539
    @sethjohnson6539 Рік тому

    You just did a massive favor for me ! Huge. Thanks man really thanks.

  • @gregpestana1023
    @gregpestana1023 3 роки тому

    Thanks Pete, At last I found a really useful and practical video in so many ways. Love your track, approach and talent .... thanks