New Walther PD380 .380 ACP Gun Review
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- The Walther PD380 is a 380 ACP handgun with a 9+1 Magazine capacity, Locked Breech Short Recoil Action for softer shooting and an Easy rack Slide. Based on the Walther PDP Slide Serrations and Grip Texture, this makes an excellent choice for 1st time shooters, small hands and weak hand strength. Thank you to Walther Arms for providing the PD380 for this review. @Waltherarms
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Just got my carry. This is my first firearm as a permit holder. Can’t wait to have fun with it. Fits perfectly in my hand and lite weight
Look into Underwood, American Gunner, Lehigh and Civil Liberty Defense for great .380 ACP carry ammo. Ammo choice is EXTREMELY important for the .380 round, doubly so when you have a shorter barrel, although the Walther P380 is a bit longer than most .380s that I would consider carrying.
Walther (to me) has always had the very best ergonomics in their grips. Reliable and comfortable!
Just a face lift of the old PK380. Needed a double stack mag upgrade. The grips are huge and could easily accommodate a larger capacity.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are using the same PK380 mags...
@@kyrozudesoya1829 100% they are.
I feel like Walther has given up on innovating. They haven't had a truly new design since the CCP, and that was a major disappointment.
This gun looks huge even though he keeps talking about all the ways it's small.
Don't know about "feel like" but I BELIEVE people will like this model.
For the love of God Walther just make a PPS M3 based on the PDP with 10+ rounds, a standard optic cut and a light rail already!
I've become somewhat enamored with the .380 round again. I actually swapped my Sig P365 9mm for the .380 version. I also purchased the Beretta 80X in .380 earlier this year. I like the looks of this new Walther - might have to check it out if they rent it at the gun club...
da/SA is my preferred action type for all autos, that said my lcp works
I swapped my original Sig P365 9mm for the 380 version as well. I'm perfectly happy with a 380 defensive round and while I have a Ruger LCP Max and Glock 42, I shoot my Sig P365-380 much better than those two. While this Walther is not a small and light as the Sig, I will have to try one out and see if I like it enough to add to my rotation.
Pra mim, na minha concepção, tinham que usar o mesmo designer e carcaça, e lançar uma em 9mm, ou .45acp 😌😌🤗
This is why I stopped watching this guy.
I will always be amazed by people who have so much time on their hands that they'd swap out their perfectly good 9mm pistols for an inferior round just to shake things up.
The 9 + 1 just killed it.
A gun that size can hold more than 9 rounds I'll just keep my l c p max and it's twelve plus one magazine Thanks scooch for the video
I hear you. I am still waiting for a 380 15+ rds optics ready compact.
A PDP-F would be perfect, a missed opportunity here.
How many rounds are used in 99% of defensive situations? You aren’t going to war, you are getting out of trouble.
@@usernamesrlamo I never gotten into one. Much less against multiple attackers. But if I do I'd like to have at least 15 rounds, if it can fit the same size gun, which almost all manufacturers already proved it can.
Also, don't see the advantage of 380 if it comes with less capacity than most 9mm in the market or a micro compact like the LCPs for instance.
@@Shadow__133 Bersa Thunder Plus has 15+1 in 380 ACP
@@michaelsweaney3890 Forgot to mention compact sized or more. I see the LCP Max as more advantageous at that sub/micro size.
Walther makes a very good product. The quallity is superb.
😌 I am so glad to hear you that it is a small, little gun & not 1 of those small, big ones.
Damn, I was interested until he called it a “lady’s gun”. I need a “man’s gun” to over compensate for… well, that’s not important.
Remember, it's just his opinion. I'll probably buy one.
It's a Lady's gun that identifies as a man's gun!
I love them 😊❤❤❤
😂 you're too funny. I'm a man and I'm going to order one, primarily for my wife but ill carry it too once in a while.
Or an old man’s gun!
Walther remains a top brand
anyone who knows anything about quality pistols knows that
good video
I think you mean, irrelevant. This can come in double stack due to thckness but instead is just a facelift of an old gun. Pdp has high bore axis and terrible barrel design that increases recoil for a few fps gain. Trigger and ergos dont mean jack if it shoots bad with low round count.
I have a ruger security 380 and love it!
Apparently............you are NOT left handed.
I'm getting that for my Daughter! Right now she's training on the Walther P22, that's PERFECT!
for a while I owned an H&K with one of those paddle mag ejector and at first it felt strange, but after a while I really loved it.
Good to see the big manufacturers coming out with new 380 tools. With modern ammo technology I have no hesitation carrying one. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts on ammunition choices. Great review as always.
@alanlerner2354
IMO, nothing beats the Underwood Extreme *Defender* & Extreme *Penetrator*
My .380 Glock42 is my EDC and all I carry in it is the Extreme Defender.
I was going to carry some of their Penetrators in it but the G42 is finicky - LOVING the Defender, but FTF w/the Penetrator.
Also, Underwood's .380 +P 100gr. Flat Nose Hi-Tek Coated Hard Cast is a fantastic penetrator.
Available in both regular and +P [for .380 I always use +P].
I own 2 other Walthers and just got the PD380 today, always liked the ergonomics. Still breaking it in, had some misfeeds on Armscor ammo, tried a diff brand and it ran better. Tear down is a cinch for cleaning!
I have a PK380 and a PDP full size. My wife is left handed, petite and recoil shy. If the trigger on this is better than the PK380 this would be ideal for her. Folks that think this thing is supposed to be for everyone really miss the niche this gun is made for. Compare this to the EZ380 and its not a bad concept.
Walther lovers have been begging for an update of the PPS or a PDP-PPS hybrid micro 9 for years and Walther just ignores us and puts out stuff like this which probably won't even sell because of the paddle mag release and no slide release.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 I'm looking at getting this because it's the only modern walther that has the paddle release
Would it harm them to make it double stack? Its thick enough. Like sheesh come on, walther, you must not want our money.
This is going to be my first pistol. Ticks all the boxes for me - trying to introduce my wife to shooting as well. We plan to have a shotgun and pistol and this will match my level of experience and her hand-size. Thanks for the review.
The slide on this one is machined. The slide on the pk380 is metal injection molded. I have a pk380 like it very much.
Am in love with this gun. Have been looking for a double/single action carry pistol for a long time.
Walther pistols are my favorite.
As cool as this firearm looks, I’d still go with the Ruger Security 380 for its capacity advantage and sighting system. It’s thin in the hands, with the same ez racking feature.
politely disagree ...Ruger really shit the bed with that gun...it's way too chunky, the grip is awkward as all hell; and worse with the extended mag , the trigger pull isn't bad but not good enough for a hammer fire design, and when dry firing, it sounds like the entire trigger system is made of cheap plastic
Yeah I wanted to love the Ruger, and while I like it, what you say is true. It’s way to big and heavy for my edc tastes.
I didn't know this existed. My grandpa had to give up his Walthers due to health reasons and was forced to switch to a M&P Shield EZ if he wanted to fire/operate a firearm without as much difficulty. The PD380 seems like the perfect mix of what he usually likes about his older P99 and PPQ (those are striker fired though) and his Shield EZ. I need to get him one now
Love your videos Sootch! One small correction. You refer to the slide serrations as "subterranean" (as in underground) while the Walther trademark calls the feature "super terrain" ( as in enhanced texture). Keep up the great work!
Good looking gun love my pdp 9mm...I'll stay with my ruger lcp max...and security 380...lol...now had they come out with a Walther 380 carbine with a 30 round clip then I'm all ears...
Walther hit the nail on the head. Double action/single action for safety and a 380 “9MM short” that does the job for self defense just fine. Especially with Hornady critical defense ammo. You’re good to go.
9+1 on a compact in 2023? And 380 nonetheless?
Lol... they hit the nail in their own head 😂
Nice pistol in 380 Auto with double action to single action and hammer fired.
Except for you know.. the abysmal capacity 🤣
It has major Cons in todays market!
Capacity is overrated!@@maximusjoseppi5904
@@maximusjoseppi5904and slide mounted safety, i mean how hard is it to just make what ppl want. Guess they want to stay irrelevant.
Pk380 was my first handgun this is basically the same with a PDP look. It was a great gun no malfunctions with a lot of rounds eventually sold it because for its size with a single stack magazine wasn’t cutting it and bought a g19 instead. Kinda wish I’d still had it for nostalgia, also had the laser that was made for it made it look like a futuristic movie gun.
Disagree.
The PK380 is a cheap, no-frills pistol that in no way compares with any Glock, and I'm not a fan of Glocks at all.
@@ecbst6maybe let the guy enjoy his gun bro
@@916bidness He shared, I shared, or don't I get to say mine for the $400 I paid for it?
@@ecbst6 400 buck 20 something years ago wasn’t cheap idk what your smoking FUDD but Walther has made quality guns guns for awhile and some of there newer guns today are top notch. I’m not saying the Pk380 is best handgun ever but for putting thousands of rounds with no issues earns a good reputation with me. I don’t know what more “frills” you need it did everything a handgun needed to do, and in my opinion more frills means more things to break or go wrong. Now saying that you are entitled to your opinion but as they say, “opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they all stink.” So to each is own hope you have a better day internet comment troll.
I have the PK380 and have had it for several years. Polymer frame cast slide. Not a perfect pistol, but really smal und fairly accurate at short distances. I use it for competitions from 15m down to 5m.
Racking the slide, when the hammer is dropped is harder, but if the hammer is cocked and the slide then racked, it´s easy.
The PD380 is a PK380 in the emperors new dress, ini my opinion
So glad you made a comparison to the Walther p22. I've wondered for a long time when Walther would come out with a 32 acp or a 380 acp. I will get the pd380 for my collection, but hope the do a 32acp in the size of the p22. Thanks for sharing.
Dave K.
I have a 1968 walther PP in 32 acp. 50 rounds is $35. It doesn't get shot much. Plus after 100 rounds you start to notice the slide bite.
Would like to see them (and other companies) offer this style of mag release on more pistols. Just cause I’m in America doesn’t mean I prefer the thumb button.
I agree. My favorite gun in terms of mag release is my HK45 with paddle mag release
Agreed! This is the best mag release when mastered.
Walther made a PPQ 5" called the Classic with paddle mag releases done exclusively through one distributor.
I bought mine in black, but they also offer different color barrels.
I'm waiting for the new HK concealed carry model to arrive.
@@thisismagacountry1318 Did you say HK!!! Where When What?? Tell Me! I'm an HK fanboy.....Lol!
@@_JimS
The SFP9CC should arrive soon.
It's a 1.5 stack micro 9mm.
Thank you for this video
Does this model solve the major problems of the PK380?
Why did Walther not give it a real decocker?
Or, even better considering the public for which it is designed, why didn't they give it a DAO trigger?
*sootch00* Hay sootch fancy little shooter you got there, thank-you sir for taking the time to show us. GOD Bless brother. (( Merry Christmas & Happy New Year ))
Let's hope that 2024 can be much better than the last 3 years.
I dig it! Easy pistol for self defense. Easy is always the best for self defense, allows you to be quick and confident.
I think this could be perfect for my wife . She is left handed and has arthritis issues in hands … Hope you and your family had a great Christmas!!
I own this gun. I really like this gun. I like the ergonomics. Could have a few more rounds, but the overall look, feel, and functions are outstanding
That paddle mag release should be an option on all handguns. I love my P22 with the paddle mag release.
Awesome Walter 380 acp thanks for sharing sootch00
This gun paired with the 68 grain Underwood Xtreme Defenders is a great option for SD
Thanks for the review. P22 owner here. Grip is awesome and the trigger stands out more than other hand guns I've tried. But any model they put out that has that type of safety is a no sell . It's the reverse of a 1911 and that's just wrong !
Walther has had a great history of making great firearms. 100% German Quality.
In same size you can find 9mm Luger with more capacity... Some of them in 380 too... You have best options in the market... Nice Video... Thanks!
Great review sir ! While you were shooting there was no muzzle flip, it shot very flat. Great gun
I LOVE MY PDP Compact. This looks like it. I don't think the optics cut really matters that much in a low profile deep cover gun. It just adds bulk and to me this kind of gum is more for the 10 yard gun. It looks like this is aimed at the deep carry space. I also love my P30sk and I get really great accuracy from it. I like hammer fired carry guns because they are less susceptible to limp wristing and you get 2nd strike. I know exactly what they were going for and I think they nailed it. This is more like the LC9S or the Shield EZ or the Bodyguard but smaller and more for sensitive shooters or
new shooters. It is designed to be low drag.
In my experience all Walthers are well thought out and high quality. I never experienced a Walther I didn't like and the PDP is outstanding.
I was gonna get the glock 42 but after watching your video, I'm thinking i may but one of these instead. Thanks, Sootch!
😃👍
Wish they would have tried something that wasn`t already out there. Like make it a double stack .32 ACP that was sub 1" width and polymer framed.
And frame mounted safety. All This would help them be relevant but nope, just a facelift of the pk380...🤦♂️
I guess this is for people that will only buy expensive pistols, and wouldn't ever consider anything made by Ruger. Since Ruger pretty much has you covered if you want a 380 pistol. Personally, I've moved away from 380 and only use 9mm now, but 380 does have it's uses.
Hammer-fired: ✓
Paddle mag release: ✓
Single stack mag: ✓
No trigger dingus: ✓
Now, if it only came with a metal frame and a 1911-style thumb safety, I'd think they made it specifically for me.
Why would you prefer a 9rd single stack?
More adrenaline when facing danger? The thrill of the fight? 😂
@@Shadow__133 When putting in time at the range, I find it way more pleasant, fun even, to load a single stack mag vs a double stack (even with a maglula loader). When you consider that the average shooting is resolved between 2-4 rounds within 7 yards, having a 15-round capacity doesn't seem so important. If 10 rounds of .380 defensive ammo center of mass don't solve your problem, then you need to get the bigger gun from your truck.
But different strokes for different folks. Some people carry six-shot revolvers, and if that's what they're going to train with and be competent at, then more power to them.
@@Sean-kp6pi I also have single stack 1911 that is super cool on the range and a 6 shooter that is cool on a drawer somewhere. But when it comes to self defense and a sub-compact that is EDC dedicated, I see 0️⃣ advantages.
@@Shadow__133yeah this guy is on copium. Walther continues to stay irrelevant, cant make what ppl want.
Definitely digging this. Like to see an extended frame for bigger hands.
It has a removable trigger chassis. How much do you bet, Walther does come out with different size frame/grip modules and higher capacity magazines?
I love this I just got a ccp a month or so ago in 380. I find it ideal for me carries really well and if I need to dispatch a critter around the house which is pretty frequently I don’t always have ear protection with me and the 380 doesn’t blow my ears out like my 9mm does
Its hilarious how so many people have no idea who this firearm is for. It doesn't compete with firearms that are double the price or double the capacity. This is basic, reliable, and easy self protection. A store can put this firearm on display right next to some brightly colored talon grips and they won't be able to keep them in stock.
Having frame mounted safety and double stack isnt asking for a miracle, its asking to stay relevant...
the grip is thick enough, so why not?
Its clear this is just a pk380 facelift, which is pointless.
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Never thought I‘d see the day a Guntuber spelled Walther almost correctly. Awesome!
I had reliability issues with my Sig P365-380, might give this one a try
Why oh why did Walther put a doggone manual safety lever on a PDP??
And what's the deal w/them making a hammer-fired PDP???
I'm a bit of a Walther fan-boy, but they sure are making it difficult for me to REMAIN a fan.
Looks like I'll have to stick to my old tried & true G42 🤠
Kind of interesting evolution from the PK380. Which was my first ccw sized hangun i bought for carry many years ago. They do make a fine shooting pistol
The year of the .380! A new one to add to my radar. Furthermore, I just learned that the Glock 25 is now available to the US market.
Very nice, a slight step up from the Ruger security 380
Walther has been making great guns at good prices for decades now and no one seems to care. I have no idea why. Do they just not have a dealer network?
Weird that they discontinued the pk380 just to release pretty much the same gun
This is really just the PK380 gen 2. Not a new model. The new name is just marketing to separate it from the unsuccessful PK380. Walter does this a lot. The PPQ became the PDP. The PPX renamed the Creed.
@@andrewgee241 gun would actually be pretty awesome if they released it with a higher capacity mag.
It's Walther's MO now. They did it with the PPQ also.
@@andrewgee241 I'm wondering if they are in financial trouble. They haven't innovated in years.
I love my PK380 so I’m anxious to try this one.
I had the original model that came out about 10+ years ago or so (don't remember exactly). Really wanted something that had a little more firepower than the M60 jframe I was carrying at the time. There really wasn't any options for Micro 9s at the time so I picked up this gun as soon as it hit the streets. It was soft shooting, light, and accurate, but it just wasn't completely reliable, even with ball ammo. As much as I wanted to like it, I sold it off and went back to my jframe until the Ruger SR9c and later SW Shield came out.
Looking for something for my wife to carry. This may be the answer. Another fine vid Sootch. Thanks
they should have done a 10 +1 to compete with the ruger security 380, the bersa thunder 380, and the sig p365 380.
Walther does everything possible just to stay irrelevant...
Paddle release is my favorite control too. My HK 45C has it. I also have a P30SK with that feature and it is ergonomically easier to manipulate than a traditional button control...
Nice pistol. Love the look of walthers. Merry Christmas Sootch.
Don't care what anyone thinks. I really keep thinking about this gun. I like the design and most everything about it. The only thing that keeps me from wanting to buy it is the price. If they get a little cheaper around my area I will purchase one for just home defense. Great video.
Cute firearm and well designed, however I think that most people, (women especially) will not like this pistol, even though it is light on recoil. Light recoil does not compensate for a nearly "10 Pound trigger" OMG thats a deal breaker for most recoil sensitive shooters. I do love the design otherwise. Thnx so much for this great review, as always.!! :)
I love the resurgence of larger 380 pistols. Without having handled this firearm, I feel a negative is the manual of arms is not transferable to other firearms. Like scootch states, it’s mostly for inexperienced shooters. I would prefer my wife to have something with a slide stop, standard thumb safety so it translates better as she grows. Got her a Security 380, but the ergos on this PD look much nicer.
Didn’t expect problems from this one? Have you forgotten the PK380 disaster? We got several of those back because they just flat wouldn’t run. Seems like the same mag and operating system which leads me to believe that there will be plenty of problems with the system.
Walther can thin out the grip and do at least 16 round magazine. Same with CCP M2 - the grip is so thick you can use it for nailing and chopping wood.
This is a great little gun. Absolutely perfect for concealed carry. I just wish I lived in a country that let me own one.....
Just get to Mexico and then walk right over the border to the US. The Gov will give u thousands of dollars, and a place to live….
@@kevinsullivan2362 🤣 sadly you're right ....
I love the way my PDP Compact shot, I gave up my PDP for a Security-380
this addresses pretty much all the issues I had with the PDP as an EDC.
For me it's the grip length, the 10 rd mag with the pinky extension on my Ruger is the lower limit, the 80x grip was too small form me, but the PK380 was ok, so I'm wondering where this falls....
is this just a re-skinned PK ?
Was really hoping for a pocket .380, kind of the saving grace of the cartridge is you can get it in a pocket, imagine like an lcp max but made by Walther? I think it'd be cool
I am a huge fan of Walther products. And i was okay with this model until you pulled the mag out. That is really just unacceptable in 2023.
I do love the paddle mag release. I'm glad to see that make a return.
The paddle release was always part of the PK380.
I like my Ruger 380 ..kinda small but I have teenage hands my fingers are not fat but when shooting my Ruger 380 I don't like how sharp the bang ..it's so loud and sharp even with ear muffs on its hard on ears
My distributor (Lipseys) had a nice sale on this firearm about a month or so ago. I'm kicking myself in the butt for not buying a bunch.
It looks cool but 380. I guess for a girl but I bought my wife the pdp f with holosun optic. She had the pk380 already. I don’t think this gun will sell as well as the pdp f. That said it looks cool kinda reminds me of a mini hk
Looked at one today. It’s not bad. Would make a nice first gun for someone. Nothing wrong with it but some of the criticism is valid.
Does Walther make this gun or sub contract it out. The prior version was terrible n
Love my Walthers but please consider the Ruger Security 380. Ruger has 15 round capacity. Also the Walther CCP has only one less capacity and is tried and true.
Great review.
Its good that theres more options like this out there especially hammer fired. But the Ruger Security 380 still beats this out by all metrics. Nice video.
👎👎👎 It's good that THERE ARE.....
@@dareisnogod5711 lolololol
This qualifies to be CA compliant! Walther needs more in the CA Compliant Roster other than the P22CA.
I’d like to know how it feels compared to the original PK380. The PK always felt a bit less solid and serious compared to Walther other guns; like it was more Umarex BB gun compared to a P99 which feels duty-ready.
I've read the only pistol walther makes now is the PDP. Everything else is made by umarex. I've also read umarex own the majority of walther now anyway
This is an interesting firearm for sure, I was on the Walther subreddit and many users there disliked it a lot and seemed to miss the point. They thought that if it wasn't what they expected it couldn't be for any other market.
I think these larger .380 ACP caliber handguns are great for all sorts of people who lack confidence, grip strength or even time to practice diligently to control for recoil. This is meant to compete with the Shield 380 EZ and Security 380.
Personally for my first handgun, if I could do it again something like this I would have gotten. Shame that Smith and Wesson didn't make their Shield Plus in .380 ACP but instead 30 SC.
It is meant to be a 380 Shield EZ and Security-380 competitor. The problem is that Walther's marketing team would rather make a James Bond short than accurately advertise what the gun is. This thing is most certainly not built to be a "covert carry" gun like they want to pretend it is.
Thanks for the bloopers 😂.
Hmmm. Been wanting a Girsan tip up but this looks nice also.
i eas very interested till i finally got a response that it was hard to rack.For me( thinking of a lady friend and my sister) the point of a tip up barrel was canceled by the difficulty in racking the slide during a malfunction. It would be great if it had an easy to load mag and an easy slide in addition to the tip up.
Walther went to all this trouble to give the PK380 a total makeover and didn’t give it double stack capacity? Love the other features (big paddle mag release fan!) but…Serious missed opportunity here. I’d rather carry DA/SA pistols but, in this case, I’ll be sticking with my P365 380.
Great review! Definitely getting one, thanks
I like it, I just wish they would have fit more rounds with the space they had & offer a flat base plate for the magazine, and can one get night sights for this?
And holster availability?
The trigger can be worked on, get it to 8 pounds for DA & 4 pounds for SA.
Good video, seems way more reliable than what one hears about the PPK model.
It's good to have options!
Now i am absoĺutely salivating. I want one. Thanķs for the AS USUAL AWESOME REVIEW
I like it! It won't replace my CZ83 or Ruger Security 380, but maybe add to it.
My wife has a very peculiar problem with a gun being "right" for her. She has very small hands. As such, she needs a small gun to be able to hold it and to reach the trigger. HOWEVER, the sub-compact guns are too snappy for her to control. She typically limp wrists it and then gets a failure to feed, very regularly. If she were to use a larger gun it would not be as snappy and she wouldn't limp wrist it, but a gun larger than a sub-compact has a grip too big for her hands (Her longest finger is as long as my pinky) and she cannot reach the trigger. THIS gun may be the happy medium she needs.
Both my (wife's) 380EZ and my diamondback DB380 are locked breach recoil action. Seems like this is a fairly direct competitor to the EZ. Seems odd he didn't mention it at all lol... EZ mags are easier to load, only thing I think this walther has over the EZ is the double/single action trigger
What was Walther thinking? They should have put a 1.5 stack much like the S&W Shield Plus uses. I would have already bought one if it had more magazine capacity.
Had a great opportunity, missed it. Should have been a stack and a half mag with 15 round capacity. And it should be optics ready.
I would like to see the rear beaver tail extend farther back. Also rather have a on frame safety instead of the slide safety. The video lists the rest of the short comings fairly well.
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New shooters manual decocker. Great idea!
I really like the design of the PD380, but it seems to be "out of stock" at all my local gun stores. Is this just a case of people rushing out to get the first wave, or is Walther just releasing limited quantities? Just curious when I may be able to actually purchase one.
Hi sootch Im a fan of yours from philippines.which do you prefer security 380 or the pd 380?which more less recoil?tia
Comparable to the Ruger Security 380.