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  • @MotoJitsu
    @MotoJitsu  10 місяців тому +7

    MotoJitsu.com

    • @marksantillo
      @marksantillo 8 місяців тому +1

      Not always practical due to camber,wind and or road surface.
      See the sense in being able to pull away immediately if necessary.
      Doesn't matter front or rear if you get rear ended as bike will be pushed from under you. If you're in gear you'll stall and drop bike if not in gear you'll drop bike .
      Either brake/ either foot .
      More important to have good situational awareness at all times and stay upright.

    • @GODSWORD11
      @GODSWORD11 6 місяців тому

      🤡

  • @Malignantt1
    @Malignantt1 Рік тому +3232

    Dont forget, “stare into your mirror and wonder if the guy behind you is gonna stop or not” 😂😂

  • @wolfmanradio
    @wolfmanradio Рік тому +761

    Be careful with those pant cuffs. I’ve dropped my bike twice in past years because one got caught on a peg.

    • @daddystu7046
      @daddystu7046 Рік тому +8

      Not done this yet but imagine it must be easy to do. I wear very baggy jeans too.

    • @thanosetsitty1896
      @thanosetsitty1896 Рік тому +16

      That happened to me when I was out test riding the Pan American. Pants got caught on the foot peg and dropped the bike. Likely it was a 900 lb bike.

    • @tjmayer9103
      @tjmayer9103 Рік тому +5

      Great point Wolfman, I've almost done that.

    • @tjmayer9103
      @tjmayer9103 Рік тому +3

      @@invisiblemushroom1445 Great advice. Ride safe too !

    • @jacobroberts2976
      @jacobroberts2976 Рік тому +4

      @@thanosetsitty1896 pan America is less than 600lbs apparently

  • @lycanit
    @lycanit Рік тому +233

    This is one of the first things my dad told me when I started riding long ago. We lived in a super hilly area so I had to practice on a hill for a few to learn. Now it’s part of life as a rider thanks dad.

  • @mweiss1031
    @mweiss1031 Рік тому +86

    Consistency is key to being comfortable and relaxed. Don't ride tense.

  • @bboykiddblack
    @bboykiddblack Рік тому +50

    In New York we learn to filter up to the crosswalk and reduce the chance of being rear ended, funny how riding is different everywhere you go lol

    • @tqnikalstaach
      @tqnikalstaach Рік тому +2

      So true, South Africa also

    • @bytesizedkidgamer
      @bytesizedkidgamer Рік тому

      in singapore, due to city riding and long traffic light timings, everybody just puts it in neutral and waits hahaha

    • @dauf69
      @dauf69 Рік тому +2

      It's absurd the fact that some places do not allow motorcycles to filter and lane split towards the front of cars. Here in Indonesia lane splitting is so regular that you don't even think twice about it.

    • @chamade166
      @chamade166 Рік тому +1

      @@dauf69 illegal lane splitting/filtering makes motorcycling a lot more dangerous than it should be. Frankly pretty much a deal breaker, it minimizes the advantages of motorcycles while maximizing safety issues.
      There are a couple countries in Europe where it’s illegal like Portugal but no one is dumb enough to obey it so it’s tolerated.

    • @christians131
      @christians131 Рік тому +1

      @@dauf69I agree. It’s a great way for busy cities to reduce congestion and toxic air pollutants. Literally everyone wins

  • @TheSpragz
    @TheSpragz Рік тому +61

    In the UK were taught to always select neutral and cover the back brake.
    Reason being, if you’re in gear and a car hits you from behind you’re going to drop the clutch and shoot off.

    • @blakeusry124
      @blakeusry124 Рік тому +11

      That will get you rear ended much quicker. Always be ready to get out of the way.

    • @pigswillbepigs
      @pigswillbepigs Рік тому +1

      Sorry buddy, ADI I never would teach that, always your escape !!

    • @MattyT_86
      @MattyT_86 Рік тому +12

      I was taught the same (UK rider). I dont like being in gear. As for being rear ended...well, in most cases you'll never see that coming, plus we all filter to the front of the traffic anyway so we stop in front or next to a stationary vehicle. Being in gear doesnt feel safe, and I dont think it IS safe for the reason you said.

    • @jsleeio
      @jsleeio Рік тому +2

      @@MattyT_86 you *should* see the rear-end coming because you should be paying attention to your surroundings, including mirrors. FWIW in Australia we are taught 1st gear + rear brake as in this video too and I think it is the correct option

    • @eclipsegfxable
      @eclipsegfxable Рік тому +7

      I was taught in the UK too and they said keep it in gear so you can escape if need be. I'm almost never in neutral

  • @gregbaldwin9460
    @gregbaldwin9460 Рік тому +6

    I like watching a group pull in somewhere and they all duck walk to a stop. Like they is especially cool when their all dressed really cool

  • @VictoriaStobbie
    @VictoriaStobbie Рік тому +9

    This is how we’re taught in our riders course in Australia.
    We call it the “Ready position”, it’s useful incase someone rear ended us at a stop light.
    Update: Just got my motorcycle P’s! And now all I need to do is hold them for 12 months and I’ll be on a unrestricted licence!

  • @justbeingmybestbob
    @justbeingmybestbob 11 місяців тому +8

    I assess every stop individually. I try not to deal in ABSOLUTES. Gripping the clutch in gear at a light is just a stall waiting to happen, which will take you even longer to get it started again. As a cognitive rider, you must pay attention to the conditions of your location and situation and act accordingly.

    • @Slowcalcones
      @Slowcalcones 3 місяці тому

      You should be proficient enough to not stall at all. Im not even sure how you would manage to stall the bike holding the clutch in at a stop.

    • @justbeingmybestbob
      @justbeingmybestbob 3 місяці тому

      @@Slowcalcones I find it hard to believe that you have NEVER stalled and don't make any mistakes while riding.

    • @Slowcalcones
      @Slowcalcones 3 місяці тому

      @@justbeingmybestbob I’ve stalled. Not anymore. And you’re not going to stall holding the clutch in. If you practice you won’t stall either.

    • @justbeingmybestbob
      @justbeingmybestbob 3 місяці тому

      @@Slowcalcones Whatever dude, you believe what you want.

    • @Slowcalcones
      @Slowcalcones 3 місяці тому

      @@justbeingmybestbob it’s not a belief. It’s a fact. If you put some time into practicing regularly you wouldn’t worry about stalling either.

  • @fullthrottle2008
    @fullthrottle2008 Рік тому +5

    From now on I am going to coast to a stop in neutral with both feet in the air shouting weeeeee 🤪

  • @zzytrewq
    @zzytrewq Рік тому +197

    I don't click my bike into gear until the lights turn green. I don't take off until I'm sure no one has run a red light. It saved me once 35 years ago.

    • @joeswanson5520
      @joeswanson5520 Рік тому +62

      Need to stay in gear in case a massive pile up or drunk driver is barreling at u from behind

    • @joeswanson5520
      @joeswanson5520 Рік тому +10

      But I’m glad you’re slive

    • @zzytrewq
      @zzytrewq Рік тому +25

      @@joeswanson5520 yeah... there's a dozen ways to get hit on a motorcycle... cheers... ride safe.

    • @massgps
      @massgps Рік тому +13

      Good point. I always look left and right when the light turns green. Fortunately I can still do that while in 1st gear

    • @derfskittlers6125
      @derfskittlers6125 Рік тому +9

      Stay in gear. I do agree with waiting just a second.

  • @davidelliott5843
    @davidelliott5843 Рік тому +6

    We are taught this in UK but our roads camber to the left, sometimes steep enough to be not able to reach the ground. I always stop with right foot down and learned to hold the bike on front brake. Set the lever position correctly and you can hold the front brake while you open throttle to move away. This is especially important on downhills where back brake slides down-slope.

    • @_marcus_does_
      @_marcus_does_ Рік тому

      You do know on a new gs you can't apply brakes and throttle! I guess you learnt to ride in India 😅

    • @elobiretv
      @elobiretv Рік тому

      My CBT instructor taught me to put both feet down just for comfort reasons really. Most of the time you are on the flat and don't need brake

    • @Toast491
      @Toast491 Рік тому +1

      Where in the UK are you? Or are you riding a bike too tall for you because I've never encountered that much camber in the road.

  • @nklam247
    @nklam247 Рік тому +5

    No one taught me that. I just instinctively did that and it felt comfortable and like you said it allow you more flexibility to adjust the visor and so…. Thanks for the tips brother. 👍🏼

  • @tonycook7679
    @tonycook7679 Рік тому +414

    So you are going to be holding the clutch in for much longer than needed. I do exactly the opposite and always have. I put my right foot down and use the front brake to hold on a slope. Then I have my left foot ready to engage 1st gear when I want to move off again. Wearing out the clutch thrust bearing will result in one of the most expensive repair bills.

    • @breal3023
      @breal3023 Рік тому +30

      Exactly.

    • @jsleeio
      @jsleeio Рік тому +25

      I haven't worn out the thrust bearing in 81000km on one of my bikes or 55000km on another. Both are due for their first valve clearance adjustments next service and I suspect at least one of them will cost a LOT more than replacing a bearing due to labour

    • @roelfkromhout
      @roelfkromhout Рік тому +20

      Agree with Tony, wouldn’t want to cause unnecessary wear on the throw out bearing like this. Just keep an eye on your mirrors or, better yet, just filter to the front of the lights and you’re golden.

    • @tonycook7679
      @tonycook7679 Рік тому +16

      @@jsleeio hmm, replacing the thrust bearing on my BMW would require removing the gearbox to get at it. I think it's not worth the risk.

    • @MikhaillllKing
      @MikhaillllKing Рік тому +69

      dude, staying on 1st gear is a must in traffic (to navigate quickly in case of emergency). It's funny how many people don't know about it.

  • @jaime4290
    @jaime4290 Рік тому +2

    Is this the most conservative option? Yes. Is this the most practical/realistic option? No.

  • @TronciM
    @TronciM Рік тому +5

    They teach you all of this in the UK. We may have an unnecessary amount of tests to eventually get our A license, but at least they teach us well.

    • @sett6970
      @sett6970 Рік тому

      ? And the guy in the US giving advice randomly means that this isn't taught here?

  • @Denali1600
    @Denali1600 Рік тому +44

    In the UK left foot down is the initial, basic training guidance. Advanced instruction with Police Riders recommends right foot down. I now alternate depending on circumstances.

    • @jonnybonny4193
      @jonnybonny4193 Рік тому +1

      Why is it right foot down for advanced instruction with police riders?

    • @Denali1600
      @Denali1600 Рік тому +3

      @@jonnybonny4193 Primarily speed, safety and efficiency of movement (reduce fatigue). With right foot down, if you've put the bike into neutral you can move away faster and more efficiently as you don't have to shuffle the bike from side to side to get going again.

    • @jonnybonny4193
      @jonnybonny4193 Рік тому +9

      @@Denali1600 interesting, I've been riding in the UK for 16 years and always ignored my basic training. Right food down always made sense to me

    • @Denali1600
      @Denali1600 Рік тому +3

      @@jonnybonny4193 Agreed. Right foot down does make more sense. Ideally i'd say be comfortable using both as sometimes road conditions eg camber, gravel or pillion movements mean that you need to be able to use both.

    • @treehavn
      @treehavn Рік тому +1

      @@Denali1600 what do you mean shuffle the bike side to side? What part of the left foot down technique involves shuffling and moving away slowly?

  • @JACKRABBIT-hd3dx
    @JACKRABBIT-hd3dx Рік тому +39

    I put my right down and have been for 55 years and it really depends on which way the slope of the road is on which side I decide to use when on a taller bike, don't get locked into a habit, that's when you get into trouble when you aren't ready to improvise. I use my front brake when stopping on hills, it leaves your feet free to stop a tip over or slippery spot from oil or bad footing. Practice using the front brake on hills so you're ready for anything.

    • @chrrev1
      @chrrev1 Рік тому

      Yeah exactly my thoughts. I prefer generally right foot down.

  • @Soeks77
    @Soeks77 Рік тому +6

    On a hill this makes awesome sense and is a good tip, thank

    • @daddystu7046
      @daddystu7046 Рік тому +1

      Unless you're skilled with your right hand *ahem* then isnt this just the normal way to ride stop start on hills?

    • @MrBulli69
      @MrBulli69 Рік тому

      Until you get hit from behind you hand comes off the clutch and you lurch forward into oncoming traffic, always select neutral.

    • @C.A.MARSUPIAL
      @C.A.MARSUPIAL 11 місяців тому

      I only use this method on hills because it's perfect for that but neutral is much more relaxing on the flat.

  • @KinBDutMean
    @KinBDutMean 8 місяців тому

    Yup the most basic and hard to keep attitude in riding is to never let your right foot leave the peg. Nice one! 👊🏽💯

  • @millinutz
    @millinutz Рік тому +3

    Exactly, well said. This is how we are taught and how it is expected when we take the Motorcycle driving test in Switzerland.

  • @ggnielfrancis
    @ggnielfrancis Рік тому +8

    Lol, it is best to find neutral and release clutch to avoid damaging clutch lining.
    Just stop, neutral, hands on hand break, left foot ready to gear.

    • @Pedro-fh6if
      @Pedro-fh6if Рік тому +2

      Cars are always slow accelerating from standstill. Some forgot they put it in neutral.
      Plenty of time to put the bike in 1st gear.

  • @sleeper.simulant7327
    @sleeper.simulant7327 10 місяців тому +2

    That’s how I stop on my bike regardless if I’m on a hill or flat ground. Especially at night or at dawn/dusk. Bright brake light can help a little with visibility. If there’s a car coming up I tap my brake, flash it at them so I don’t get rear ended…

  • @TFlo1020
    @TFlo1020 7 місяців тому

    Little over a rear riding and ending up making this a habit just from watching this, not really harping it too much. Really glad I did, plus it looks pretty slick when you line up a smooth quick stop with immediately right foot down and pop the visor

  • @spudgunson
    @spudgunson Рік тому +26

    If stopping in traffic, stay back from the vehicle in front, consider an ‘escape route’ if you need to get away from a rear end. Be aware of camber, road conditions and it’s okay to put either foot down first. In fact you should practice this. If you’re aware of traffic issues behind then you will have time to put the bike into gear and use your escape plan.
    If it’s windy, if your pillion is making balance difficult, then put both feet down.
    A rider needs to be adaptable so prescribing one approach only might get you into trouble.

    • @okinawanah3463
      @okinawanah3463 Рік тому

      I always lane split and stop in the crosswalk

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 Рік тому +1

      You'll never get away from a rear end, nor are you likely to be looking when it happens.

    • @spudgunson
      @spudgunson Рік тому +3

      @@chrispekel5709 when I’m stopped I spend more time looking in my mirror for vehicles approaching and also watching around me for pedestrians and other bikes coming up along side.
      There is no prescribed way to stopping except to remain alert to what’s happening around you. Everything else will be dependent upon circumstances.
      You are absolutely right, a high speed rear end would be very difficult to avoid but not impossible and if you’re aware of a vehicle racing up behind then there is the chance to react. Think about leaving space to move and an escape route.
      At least you give yourself a fighting chance 👍

    • @spudgunson
      @spudgunson Рік тому +3

      @@okinawanah3463 I live in the UK and lane splitting is referred to as filtering and is a permitted manoeuvre in the Highway Code.
      I was doing it myself only yesterday and I’m always surprised how some car drivers take offence to it.
      Many authorities don’t sanction lane splitting and I don’t see why not. When done appropriately it saves lives and reduces congestion.
      There is a risk so I keep speeds low.
      Stopping in the crosswalk might get you the wrong sort of attention. In the UK the taught approach is to be Safe, Legal, Appropriate and leave a good Perception of motorcycling. Many people in the UK have a default setting that motorcycles are too loud, antisocial and always breaking posted speed and highway rules. It’s up to us as motorcyclists to leave a good impression.

    • @chrispekel5709
      @chrispekel5709 Рік тому

      @@spudgunson yes, I always leave room. I also sit in between cars at the lights.
      Sometimes there's nothing you can do, if it's going to happen it's going to happen. All you can do is try to minimise it

  • @ooyginyardel4835
    @ooyginyardel4835 Рік тому +44

    Or…on that BMW, engage the hill holder.

    • @shoruda
      @shoruda Рік тому +1

      Bruh the new bikes got too much stuff 😂 but good to see newer technology making its way to motorcycles

  • @commanderstud2417
    @commanderstud2417 Рік тому +1

    I just started doing this and it makes a huge difference when slowing down for a stop.

  • @dhess34
    @dhess34 10 місяців тому

    Thanks! New to cycling (literally 4 miles in!) and I wondered which foot should go down, and why. Now I know.

  • @neo123rej
    @neo123rej Рік тому +33

    In the Netherlands we learn to always keep left foot on at a light, in case you forget to go back (all the way) to first gear. We only keep right foot up on a hill.

  • @michaeladams2644
    @michaeladams2644 Рік тому +4

    I was always told to stay in gear and fear someone gonna run in the back of you!

    • @keesverhagen9227
      @keesverhagen9227 Рік тому

      No, never do that. Never ! Ever !
      Do the opposite instead. Motor in neutral. Right foot on the ground.And your leftfoot stays on the peg. Ready to put it in first gear when needed. Otherwise you wil wear out the clutchplates much quicker. Also you will get a disbalance in time in the rotorblades. Due to temp differences. Colder and hot. Asking for problems.
      But that is not the most important thing. When someone hits you from behind with a certain force then your bike can go forward. With your bike being locked due to you pushing the brakes then the kinetic force on your body is much larger. Probably your neck has the most to endure.
      And if possible in a city when you need to stop then if possible never stop directly behind a car. But steer it a bit towards the left of the car in front of you. To create more space in front of you. When a car hits you with f.e. 60 kph that speed is enough to crush you to heavy internal bleedings or brake a lot of your bones. When you have space in front of you you up your change to survive tremendously and lower the level of damage to you also.
      This also goes up when in a car. Never keep your foot at the brakes. You up the chance for getting a Whiplash. Or up the intensity of that.
      Please overthink it all as logical as you can. Please ?
      A Whiplash can be for life. Seen people who wanted not to be alive anymore. Due to tge constant pain the had.
      Only when on a hill you use the frontbrake. Never the rearbrake.

  • @Orgena_Deconstructed
    @Orgena_Deconstructed 11 місяців тому +2

    You spoke to me on this one. Thank you Big Brother Iron.

  • @daisyfarmer660
    @daisyfarmer660 Рік тому

    I’m learning right now, and yesterday I fell over doing this cause I thought I was supposed to turn the wheel to the left😂. This helps…A lot. Thanks!

  • @theUrbangh0st
    @theUrbangh0st Рік тому +11

    In the uk ,this procedure is actually part of the drving test ,so if you dont do it you wont pass ,no pass no ride !

  • @hulkhatepunybanner
    @hulkhatepunybanner Рік тому +41

    *When you first come to a stop remember to put it in first gear before you put your left foot down.*

    • @jmackinjersey1
      @jmackinjersey1 9 місяців тому +1

      That's why you downshift as you are approaching the light and slowing to a stop.

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 9 місяців тому

      @@jmackinjersey1 *Be careful. Sometimes downshifting too quickly on approach can make the bike slide due to a wet surface or a light rear wheel.*

    • @goon_eg1089
      @goon_eg1089 6 місяців тому

      ​@@hulkhatepunybannerthen revmatch

    • @birddaddydetta
      @birddaddydetta 5 місяців тому

      ​@@hulkhatepunybannerWe already discovered Rev Matching as a solution to that

  • @Fonzie2612
    @Fonzie2612 Рік тому

    Wow. I didn’t know. I’ve only been riding motorcycles for 16 years. Like holding your foot break to keep the bike from rolling away. Wow. How do you come up with these things? Genius.

  • @stefanocioni2587
    @stefanocioni2587 Рік тому +1

    This is true. My first instructor taught me this and stopped me from getting rear ended. Watching my rear view some clown stone ran the red I was able to press out of the way. Putting it into gear would have forced me to panic and not have enough time to get out of the way

  • @thelongeared1
    @thelongeared1 Рік тому +8

    agreed!! never understood people who N at the light... if your in a travel lane keep her in gear, never know when you may need to hot foot it out the way!
    stay safe out there homies

    • @stugg
      @stugg Рік тому +4

      Sometimes your clutch hand needs a break, e.g. Harley clutches are brutal.

  • @duncanorr5926
    @duncanorr5926 Рік тому +5

    In the UK we get taught to to the 'Hendon shuffle' where you come to a stop, swap feet, put the bike into neutral and then swap again to hold the back break. This is so in the event of being rear ended you won't dump the clutch and send the bike flying with you being dragged behind it. It also keeps the rear tail light illuminated. Dn which is the best option tbh

  • @lukeweaver9248
    @lukeweaver9248 Рік тому +1

    That's how I do it! I have a 2020 yamaha tracer 900gt. It's a little tall for me so this method works well for me. Allows me to scoot off the seat slightly so I can plant my left foot while staying on the rear brake

  • @steveh100
    @steveh100 Рік тому

    This makes sense, although sometimes I'll put both feet down just to annoy any bikers that are nearby

  • @jmiller990
    @jmiller990 Рік тому +5

    I'm the opposite. I always like to have my foot near the gear shifter so I am ready to accelerate quickly and upshift immediately if needed.
    I use the front brake at stop lights...put my right foot down and shift to neutral at the light. Left foot never leaves the peg so I'm always ready to shift into first and take off from the stoplight.

    • @RANhxcCORE
      @RANhxcCORE Рік тому

      this is how you die. please dont do this anyone else. i think most peoples bikes do not go into 1st 100% of the time, imagine theres a car behind you not stopping... or an impatient jerk. youre gonna get rammed this way and not be able to do anything about it. please always be in the gear you need to be in in order to escape!! your hand is the neutral bro, please ride safe.

    • @jmiller990
      @jmiller990 Рік тому

      @@RANhxcCORE that's why the foot is on the peg near the shifter. And, no...I'm not holding the clutch in throughout a whole light... especially here in California where I'm lane splitting and sitting between two cars at the stoplight...in other words... strategically positioned where it's impossible to be hit from behind...well, I suppose another motorcycle could rear end me. 😂

    • @jmiller990
      @jmiller990 Рік тому

      ​​@@RANhxcCORE here in California I've seen way more motorcyclists get struck from cross traffic at a stoplight than from getting hit from behind. In fact, I can't even think of an accident where I've seen a motorcyclist struck from behind at a stop light. Usually it's someone running a light and hitting a car that has a turn arrow sending that car head on into the motorcycle sitting in the front...it's over before a motorcyclist even has time to react. I'll take my chances with cars behind me...it's the ones flying through intersections at 45 mph I'm keeping my eyes on. Just had this exact scenario captured on a Go Pro by a motorcyclist up in Los Angeles a a couple months ago. The vehicle struck him but luckily he lived. Yellow / Red lights mean nothing here in California so it's a must to be paying attention to what's going on in the intersection. In this scenario, one of the most common I see in California as I stated, you aren't going to escape a car coming at you at 45 mph whether your on the clutch or not. Unless your motorcycle has reverse...mine doesn't.
      ua-cam.com/video/qD9Ow83GKUA/v-deo.html

    • @RANhxcCORE
      @RANhxcCORE Рік тому +1

      @@jmiller990 I still think it's more effort shifting to neutral. What if you're on an incline? you like dancing from peg to peg to get going? don't see how lane splitting ties into it, but still not legal in texas so I guess I don't understand lol. I'd get run over trying that anywhere over here

    • @jmiller990
      @jmiller990 Рік тому

      @@RANhxcCORE Sure, if I'm on an incline I'll hold the clutch in and use the rear brake.
      With the ability to lane split you can go in-between all the cars waiting at a stop light and be sitting at the stop light with a car on either side of you (most roads are four lane boulevards in my city). Impossible for another car to rear end you when you are waiting at the stop light sitting on the center line with a car on each side of you shielding you.

  • @armadilllo
    @armadilllo Рік тому +3

    Always ride on the right shoulder so when your bmw goes into limp mode, your brakes lock up or rear end seizes you can get out of everyones way and not die.

    • @johnauditt
      @johnauditt 11 місяців тому

      That's a very strange approach to take as there's nearly always crud close to the edge of the carriageway

  • @trailguy
    @trailguy 8 місяців тому

    i learned to ride in florida and when i moved to virginia after a few years of riding, I was a bit freaked out the first time I had to stop on a hill. good advice.

  • @grantsimsq8348
    @grantsimsq8348 Рік тому +1

    Great advice! Plus I am repeatedly glancing in my mirrors watching out for idiots.

  • @rikrob
    @rikrob Рік тому +3

    Myself & an advanced rider instructor I had debated this. He was all for the stop & neutral way, while I've always been told this way. When we got back he asked his superior, and he said exactly the same as I did.
    Don't think either of us were wrong, but at least if you're in gear, you can get away should you encounter an idiot coming up from behind! So long as you're not riding the clutch, any damage done whilst waiting in traffic will be minimal.

    • @peterjones246
      @peterjones246 Рік тому +1

      Yes.. i was taught this on my IAM course, and to leave a safe distance from the car in front as an escape plan should ypu observe an incoming from behind

    • @rikrob
      @rikrob Рік тому

      @@peterjones246 mine agreed with the gap, but until his superior corrected him somehow thought/felt it was better out of gear with both feet down! This was for BikeSafe though, so unsure if all of them are fully qualified IAM riders.
      Too many crazies with cars in the UK. If it isn't them thinking we are on the road for them to ram from behind, they're moving to make that perfect filtering space into something you'd struggle to get through on-foot!

    • @booshallmighty
      @booshallmighty Рік тому +2

      The police in the UK keep the bike in Neutral so if they get hit from behind they don't roll off the throttle and lurch forward into traffic. They do what's called a Hendon shuffle were they put the bike in gear, swap over their feet and move off. I personally was taught in the same manner the video dercribes.

    • @rikrob
      @rikrob Рік тому

      @@booshallmighty that sounds quite like what he was trying to get me to do. Lot of messing about should you have an incoming vehicle, think I'll just stick to the way I know and trust, definitely for now. Might change if I do end up on the full IAM course, but think as soon as I passed that it would be back to keeping in gear again quite quickly.

    • @booshallmighty
      @booshallmighty Рік тому +2

      @@rikrob I hear what your saying, that's why they call it the Hendon shuffle. It's a bit of a faff. When I did my training they never taught this, it was always left foot down, in gear and ready to go.
      I understand why the Police do this and thy literally wrote the book (Road Craft), on advanced motorcycle riding which is mostly adopted by ROSPA and IM.
      However I will continue to keel my bike in gear, ready to rocket off. Ride safe

  • @Lex_9
    @Lex_9 Рік тому +3

    If you're on a hill, then yes, I agree, but at most traffic lights, you don't have to engage any brake if you are not a tiny princess who can't reach the ground. Just put it in neutral so you avoid excessive wear on clutch discs and keep your left foot up so you can leave faster than the bmw who is sniffing your rear tyre

  • @atag512
    @atag512 Рік тому +1

    Good advise for sure..I always am scanning my mirror also..I look for any car looking off key and I also look for anyone coming out from behind be

  • @coqui5951
    @coqui5951 Рік тому +1

    This saved me from being attacked one late night on my way home, while at a stop light. Thank you!

  • @MrOscaroe27
    @MrOscaroe27 Рік тому +14

    I always do it the other way around, bike in N, right hand covering the front brake (most powerful brake) and left hand off the clutch; right foot on the ground and left foot ready to push first gear.

    • @daveyroberts2880
      @daveyroberts2880 Рік тому +4

      Me too. I don't want to hold on to the clutch that long while waiting for the lights to change..

    • @zstackgo
      @zstackgo Рік тому

      Oscar, why put yourself through all that?

    • @daveyroberts2880
      @daveyroberts2880 Рік тому +4

      @@zstackgo all what ?
      Right foot on the ground.
      Right hand on the brake/ throttle.
      Left foot on the peg ready to click into gear.
      Left hand free to operate the visor, the side which most helmets are controlled by, or resting on the handlebar ready to grab the clutch.
      I guess whatever works for you is fine.

    • @zstackgo
      @zstackgo Рік тому +1

      @@daveyroberts2880 just seems simpler to keep right foot on the brake, right hand ready with throttle, in 1st gear (cause we’ve down shifted while stopping). when it’s time to go, twist the throttle a little, start releasing the clutch into the friction zone, cover the rear brake to maintain control if something weird happens (someone in front of you decides not to “go”). Just seems like you’re adding a lot of unnecessary steps (downshift, then put it in neutral… your right hand has to do 2 things at once… you have to bring your right foot up when you need the proper control at low speeds). 🤷‍♂️

    • @jkemmery
      @jkemmery Рік тому +1

      This is the CORRECT way to stop.

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon Рік тому +12

    That's the first thing we learned in my country's basic motorcycle lesson. If the right foot comes down at any time, you will fail the Traffic Police test.

    • @marialow9919
      @marialow9919 Рік тому +1

      Does that apply if you’re turning left or right as well?

    • @TheSunMoon
      @TheSunMoon Рік тому +3

      @@marialow9919 Yes. We were informed that, the right foot has to always be on the rear brake pedal. So when nearing a full stop, we're to kick down to 1st gear always.🙂 I'm a relatively new rider; just passed the tests early 2023!

    • @gertthorstenengel
      @gertthorstenengel Рік тому +7

      ​@@TheSunMoon doing this all stops regardless how long they are will destroy Your clutch more quickly than usually.
      Don't listen to these bad advices.
      May be he owns a garage and seeks new customers with defect clutches.

    • @eastendimages
      @eastendimages Рік тому +1

      @@TheSunMoon this is how you wear out your rear pad, though

    • @motosnape
      @motosnape Рік тому +12

      Friction wears out a clutch. A clutch fully pulled in, will not suffer premature wear. Friction wears out brake pads. A brake caliper biting onto a stationary disc, will not suffer premature wear.

  • @skippyguy3
    @skippyguy3 Рік тому +1

    Guess this isn't the first lesson in US motorcycle school 😂

  • @nunya5864
    @nunya5864 11 місяців тому

    Great info .. another addition for the heavy traffic and hills would be to insall a recluse auto clutch you can still use your clutch as usual but allows you to not have to use the clutch lever in stop and go traffic and starting from from complete stops..

  • @jwebster5840
    @jwebster5840 Рік тому +16

    Yep! It’s called the ready position and taught in motorcycle training.

    • @nicolasjohnson7493
      @nicolasjohnson7493 11 місяців тому

      Once you come to a complete stop you should have both feet on the ground. Left first then right. That way you have balance and then you can adjust to have the right foot up on the brake.
      -Motorcycle Safety Foundation Ridercoach

  • @Milehi6h
    @Milehi6h Рік тому +4

    Honest question. Does that wear out your clutch when the handle is fully engaged? Or only when you're "riding" your clutch does it hurt it?

    • @JQ3B94
      @JQ3B94 Рік тому +1

      There is no friction between the clutch plates so it does less wear than actually riding the bike

    • @Milehi6h
      @Milehi6h Рік тому

      @@JQ3B94 thanks! I drive a manual car as well and wasn't sure if they were built differently.

    • @ToastbrotRaver
      @ToastbrotRaver Рік тому +2

      It wears out the throw out bearing, not the plates

    • @darkelemental
      @darkelemental Рік тому

      Motorcycles have a wet clutch. Slipping the clutch is perfectly safe and encouraged. Unlike riding the clutch in a car, you may smell that familiar burning smell if you've ever done it, motorcycle clutches wear very slowly

    • @richard1155
      @richard1155 9 місяців тому

      Even with the clutch pulled right in the plates are still in contact and wearing a bit. That's why it clunks into first even with the clutch right in and sometimes even jumps forward meaning the plates are in fairly tight contact. I select neutral when I stop unless it looks like a short stop. I don't think wearing the thrust bearing is a problem with modern clutches though.

  • @braikka
    @braikka Рік тому +1

    In England, we are taught to stop. Change into neutral. Then change legs in order to cover the brake.

  • @bushpig6837
    @bushpig6837 Рік тому +5

    I was taught the opposite, it was a test fail to put your left foot down unless dismounting the bike. They said you have two brakes so use the front brake when stopped. I see so many people put the left foot down then swap feet to change gear then swap feet back again and all so they can use the rear brake instead of just keeping the left foot on the peg at all times.

    • @larcorba
      @larcorba Рік тому +3

      This is how's it's done 💪🏻 Left foot stays on the bike.

    • @eastendimages
      @eastendimages Рік тому +2

      This is how we were taught too. Use the front brake whenever you’re stopped and keep your foot ready to shift gears or ride away if someone’s creeping from behind

  • @Steve-gu9vc
    @Steve-gu9vc Рік тому +6

    Whenever I come to a stop I put it in neutral before it stops so you don't ruin the baron in the clutch that's holding it

    • @JKDJack
      @JKDJack Рік тому +1

      Meh it's much easier to change them on a bike vs car idc

    • @Partnerthedog
      @Partnerthedog Рік тому

      you only do this in traffic or cities and stuff it's literally to save your life. if a car is about to rear end you, you can just go. I always leave it in gear on the streets, neutral or turn it off when I'm offroad.

    • @zstackgo
      @zstackgo Рік тому +3

      It’s a wet clutch, not gonna ruin it

  • @turbot6909
    @turbot6909 11 місяців тому +1

    And the key is also to wait until yr lefthand cramps bcuz the light is 6mins long resulting in 60000 dollar BMW lurching forward and colliding with the cross traffic. Got it boss

    • @MotoJitsu
      @MotoJitsu  11 місяців тому

      😂 that never happens

  • @JG-yc2fr
    @JG-yc2fr 10 місяців тому

    Nice tip. Not a rider myself unless its my Banshee but this is useful for all thr stall outs i see.

  • @soumiksarkar4161
    @soumiksarkar4161 Рік тому +4

    For short riders, it is not that simple. On slanted streets,we have to plan which foot to put down so we don't have an embarrassing low side.

  • @patrickspapens5497
    @patrickspapens5497 10 місяців тому

    I recently rented both an M1000R and the S1000RR and both had hill assist. just go to neutral, squueze the brake lever extra hard and you can have both feet and hands free. liked it a lot!

  • @4152576687
    @4152576687 Рік тому

    There's something about that on the booklets for the NY motorcycle permit, it says to put both feet on the floor when you come to a complete stop. Don't know if it changes recently.

  • @oscar66810
    @oscar66810 Рік тому +3

    New rider here. What if the light takes a while to turn green. Will it overheat my clutch, leaving it in first gear?

    • @TheDatpussy
      @TheDatpussy Рік тому

      No

    • @TheDatpussy
      @TheDatpussy Рік тому +1

      No, but relax your hand and put your bike in neutral

    • @positivelycurvedpikachu
      @positivelycurvedpikachu Рік тому

      any answer?

    • @TheDatpussy
      @TheDatpussy Рік тому

      @@positivelycurvedpikachu read

    • @zstackgo
      @zstackgo Рік тому +4

      It will not. Clutches on bikes are wet clutches, so they’re always being cooled by the engine oil. If your bike overheats at stop lights, you’ve got bigger problems.

  • @zuma5278255424
    @zuma5278255424 Рік тому +4

    Should also practice putting only right foot down. Useful when stopping on slanted roads. Seen a few videos where people lean the wrong way and the bike is tilted too far before they get a foot down.

    • @tjmayer9103
      @tjmayer9103 Рік тому

      Should be your left foot in case you need the rear brake.

    • @zuma5278255424
      @zuma5278255424 Рік тому +2

      @@tjmayer9103 yes, most cases. I'm just saying there are cases where left foot down is more dangerous. In those cases just use right foot down + front brake

    • @rogersmith6148
      @rogersmith6148 Рік тому

      I was on a slight hill left to right and the bike hit the tipping point before I could get my right foot down. So yes does happen.

    • @tjmayer9103
      @tjmayer9103 Рік тому

      @@rogersmith6148 I can see how that could occur.

    • @ethanrhanielle2474
      @ethanrhanielle2474 Рік тому

      @@tjmayer9103 tell us you live in Kansas without telling us you live in kansas

  • @johnsmith401
    @johnsmith401 11 місяців тому +1

    Do always the opposite when you are going to stop for more than a couple of seconds or if you are really stopping, when stopped let the clutch rest in neutral and apply front brake (right hand) if needed. Right foot down so you have left foot free to gear when needed.

  • @pogiko2800
    @pogiko2800 Рік тому +1

    I have a habit of going on neutral each time I stop because it's mostly flat here, but man that habit almost bit me hard when I stop on a false flat.

  • @lou3093
    @lou3093 Рік тому +3

    99% of motorcycles use a 'wet clutch'. When keeping the clutch engaged, you can cause the clutch to heat up and start grabbing. This depends on how long you have to stop.

  • @malrobles
    @malrobles Рік тому +4

    funny enough, a scooter frees all four limbs and still lets you move at a moments notice

  • @Tonefiend
    @Tonefiend Рік тому +1

    I ride a Harley. The clutch is brutal after a few hours of riding. It’s painful to hold in at a light.

  • @marcopolo9622
    @marcopolo9622 Рік тому

    The experience is apparent. Thanks from us beginners

  • @seiraeziar8631
    @seiraeziar8631 Рік тому +3

    i always put both of my legs down while stopping cause it feels unbalanced if only using 1 leg down. just make sure i have good front brake

  • @harkmannah7432
    @harkmannah7432 Рік тому +2

    Really helpful- thank you

  • @oldrifter
    @oldrifter 10 місяців тому

    This is taught to uk riders while learning the A licence. Additionally the bike stops more smoothy. I was also told that if someone rear ends you its better to have the rear brake on.

  • @bm65jon
    @bm65jon Рік тому

    Seen as you’re on a 1250. Just double press the rear brake and put the hill assist on. Then you’re braked with both feet on the ground.

  • @kalebmendez439
    @kalebmendez439 Рік тому

    I’m super excited and super scared of my BRC course next week man. After I take the course if I pass and/or like it I’ll be getting my first motorcycle. Looking at the Honda Rebel 500 for now. Less go 05/08/2023 is my first day of the course. We shall see

  • @danielgielchinsky6951
    @danielgielchinsky6951 8 місяців тому

    Been practicing this for 6 months now and it’s become an ingrained habit. The only time I ever use neutral is to back a bike up into a parking spot in my garage.

  • @WillPage
    @WillPage 10 місяців тому

    New rider here... been contemplating this so thx I like this rational.

  • @AlienSaxophone785
    @AlienSaxophone785 Рік тому

    Interesting to see this:
    In NL we are obligated for the motorcycle exam and during lessens to always put the right foot down and are corrected/point of fail if we put the left foot down.
    (to allow for neutral at the trafficlight and ready to go using your left foot to kick in to gear & shift up when necessery)

  • @murrayhelmer8941
    @murrayhelmer8941 8 місяців тому

    That’s correct. When I got my licence in the 80s. Points were deducted if the tester didn’t see you put it in neutral and hand off the clutch. Ridiculous. Pretty sure that’s changed now. Thank God

  • @ponchyponchy687
    @ponchyponchy687 11 місяців тому

    I feel more comfortable since I practice this method on hills. Thank you ❤

  • @OldGuyAdventure
    @OldGuyAdventure Рік тому

    When I took training, I was told to always do shoulder checks for cars not stopping and be prepared to escape or drop the bike should not be able to get out of the way. Had a guy in Edmonton that had the car in front and to the left back into him, if he had not dropped the bike he would have been under that car.

  • @crixcggtgftrbv5stiangagiu868

    Hi.
    Thaks for all the tips; a real help!
    Best regards from Bucharest, Romania

  • @stephenfricke9298
    @stephenfricke9298 Рік тому +2

    Words of wisdom.

  • @1truefreedomfighter
    @1truefreedomfighter 2 місяці тому

    I don’t do anything “every time” but I do like this most of the time

  • @omnivore2220
    @omnivore2220 Рік тому +1

    "Every time"? What if I want to put the sidestand down and get off the bike? What if I'm traversing a steep slope, and the ground is too far down on the left side? I ask because we all encounter these situations, and more, and if we train to "always" do sometgingvthe same way "every time" then we'll be in trouble when that one thing doesn't work. Maybe you live in the flattest part of Texas, and never leave tour home country, but some people live in places with hills.

    • @zstackgo
      @zstackgo Рік тому

      Right foot on the brake is definitely better for hills. If the road is SO sloped away from your clutch side then you need to shift a little to the left for god footing. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but hypothetically, if you’re using the front brake, you have to be especially cognizant of the terrain to avoid dropping the bike.

  • @kevinnorris6157
    @kevinnorris6157 11 місяців тому

    Motojitsu is good shit. Oorah brotha

  • @VaeVictisXIII
    @VaeVictisXIII 9 місяців тому

    Ye they drummed this into me during the CBT, just assumed it was the standard way to bring your bike to a halt and to be ready to go in the safety position.

  • @stevobob2069
    @stevobob2069 Рік тому +1

    It's not good for your engine to keep it in gear with the clutch in, or so I heard, please tell me if I'm wrong

  • @chris2790
    @chris2790 Рік тому +1

    nah, what I do depends on traffic conditions and the road. flat and level and gonna be awhile? Both feet hit the ground.
    Always ready to roll if a car is approaching, otherwise I may go to neutral.
    But ALWAYS alert to what's going on around me.

  • @Roger_White
    @Roger_White Рік тому +1

    Use your right leg to brake and then down, using left leg to select if coming to stop for a long period. If you need to jump off left foot can put side stand down. This will allow relaxing both hands and the bike. Think about the clutch being held for a long period of time ;) .

  • @nycjanedoe
    @nycjanedoe Рік тому

    I do this! Suggestion for what to do when I need my left hand to adjust the setting on my right heated glove? Pulling over somewhere safe is obviously ideal.

  • @user-hy2yu9ww9w
    @user-hy2yu9ww9w Рік тому

    Thanks man for you help

  • @gerardmontgomery280
    @gerardmontgomery280 Рік тому

    In the old UK you had to put the bike in neutral every time you came to a stop. This lead to what I can only describe as the Hokey Cokey stop as you put your left leg down, your right leg down. Left right, left right you shake your bike around.
    Thankfully the current test is much more common sense.

  • @apriliarider6072
    @apriliarider6072 Рік тому +1

    I ride an Aprilia where staying in first is not just a good idea, it’s the LAW!

  • @unionrdr
    @unionrdr 10 місяців тому

    I've been considering this sort of thing. So many cagers try to say " his brake lights weren't working".

  • @clintb3927
    @clintb3927 Рік тому +1

    I'm probably the shortest guy you'll meet, this is how I learned to stop

  • @jeffbrandenburg8672
    @jeffbrandenburg8672 Рік тому

    These short videos are excellent for teaching especially for a beginner like me. Thank you and please keep them coming. I just subscribed.

  • @BleachDemon99
    @BleachDemon99 7 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @craigpeterson38
    @craigpeterson38 Рік тому

    2 foot shuffle. Slow down with both brakes, come to a stop with left leg on floor, tip to the right leg, change to neutral then tip back to the left leg and keep right on rear brake and hand on front. Then quick swaparoo to get going again( after you checked your damn mirrors) If you get shunted even a small bit the bike will leap away from you if you remain in gear causing back injury and other lovely bike injuries. Good luck