That WAS pretty neat. The aircraft is still doing aircraft things, the controls are still doing control things, the engines are doing engine things, and he can see the flashy things on the ground... nothing else matters.
He is from the south! This IL Transplant lives in Georgia now, and that is how the folks are down here. Loved the interaction between tower and the aircraft. Calm and collected!
My First PIC for major we took s strike from Alexandria,LA to Love Field ( Dallas TX ). The MD 80 went black but within 30 to 40 seconds returned. Longest time in my pilot career.
I worked at an airport years ago, and usually the cargo pilots wouldn't go through the civilian terminal. But that one time I saw them, the UPS pilots looked like the coolest cats out there. Wearing WW2 style brown leather bomber jackets with sheepskin collar, brown/khaki pants and shoes, patches all over the jackets and crew bag, and big lump of snuff/snus under his lip, ready to go fly the MD-11. What a dream job.
I fly the MD-11 and we sustained a direct lightning strike to the cockpit. Knocked my captain’s hand off his iPad. Amazingly we had no systems failures or abnormalities but it was one of the loudest things I’ve ever heard.
A good reminder there are aviators, controllers and ramp staff out there doing this work day and night, stormy and clear, all the time. Without them, regardless of politics, things wouldn’t work as well.
Getting hit by lightning I'm certainly was no fun. I recall back in the early days of the DC-10 we got hit by Lightning just after taking off from O'Hare and outside the window it looked like the sun had landed on the wing... Fortunately the pilot said the aircraft suffered no electrical issues and we continued on to LAX.
Welcome to Illinois lol. A line of storms like this is fairly common during certain times of the year. These storms typically are moving very fast, and the line moves through pretty fast towards Lake Michigan. Pilots who fly into northern IL, southern Wisconsin often are used to these types of storms. However this was one hell of a line of storms
Captained a flight once from Washington state to Missouri that had to make it through a squall line across the lower 48. I vividly remember ATC saying "roger, no one's made it through yet, let us know if you do." Made it, but took a lightning strike that felt like a flashbang for our trouble. Lucky for us the jet was built in 1960 back when Boeing overengineered everything by 69%. Still thought the cabin air felt a little... static-y after that.
Interesting coming across this the daybafter hearing Ward Carroll talking about the F35B incident from last year. Stuff going intermittent rather than hard failures or recovery. ESD mitigation can be hard. Lightning is a monster version of ESD.
Feedback: The flashing white overlay at the beginning of the video was rough for me, personally; would appreciate avoiding that kind of flashing in future videos. (Rare that I have feedback to give; love your work!)
Fun fact: all phones and monitors have a refresh rate. Everything is flashing at you. Way faster than that mediocre blinking. Car taillights flash as fast, if not faster.
0:32 - - no information / unreliable airspeed - - 0:36 1:06 - - unreliable airspeed, nav problems, other issues, lightning? ⚡️🌩️⛈️ 1:18 - - “things coming + going” 4:09 - - avionics working? 5:21 - - still on emergency status 5:28 - - souls + fuel (4 souls, 3hrs fuel) 6:12 - - “a lot of things we lost, would come back, lose + come back + it’s still happening.” 6:21 - - “I can see the runway, I’ve got my warm fuzzy right now.” 7:16 - - successfully on the ground 7:22 - - had a lot of problems - - 7:25 7:30 - - “we just had some electrical issues with the airplane” - - 7:36
A UPS MD-11 did recently land after possibly getting struck by lightning and had a few instrument irregularities. There are so many redundancies in aviation and it's so rare to have any effect I wouldn't worry!
@@VASAviation ¿Eres español? Mi corazón también está con la gente de tu país. Qué triste imagen. Hay muchos muertos y desaparecidos. El dueño de la tienda de comestibles que abrió sus puertas y dijo: "Toma lo que necesites". Estaba casi inundado y embarrado, pero parecía que había suficiente comida para ayudar. Eso fue muy triste y generoso. ¡Mis mejores deseos!
That probable lightning strike fed those pilots quite a "shotgun blast" of problems to figure out what to do with, I wonder if the fact they had 4 pilots on board was any factor? In any case, kudos to the pilots and controllers for making this "just another mishap", and even better, the kind that probably didn't even make the local news unless they have a habit of monitoring ATC for such things. Sure would like to hear the story from the mechanics that work on this aircraft to figure out 1. where the lightning struck and exited, and 2. what systems got fried and how badly! This story told over ATC radio by the pilots of them "losing systems and then them coming back repeatedly" sure sounds to my brain like some sort of automatically resetting circuit protection devices (like circuit breakers, but instead of tripping off and staying off, they trip off, cool down, and try to reset themselves) either got damaged or was doing it's job to prevent further damage to the aircraft, either way I'd like to know what the mechanics think happened!
Just jump seaters probably. I Jumpseat ups to work and home. It’s very typical to fly ups pilots or airline pilots home. Md has extra jump seat cabin super nice seats
probably the ATIS information (Automated terminal information system) which broadcasts local information like winds and runway in use. because this is often updated, ATIS comes with a letter tag, in this case C (Charlie is ICAO alphabet for C, because saying 'I have cee' sounds a lot like both C, D, E, G, and P and so to avoid confusion they use a standardised set). When the pilot comes in to an airport, they listen to the ATIS to get an expectation of where they will land and how much crosswind there will be, and they tell the controller that they have that information with the letter tag. If (for example) they are in a storm and the winds have shifted, or that they simply were held for a while, and they say we have information Charlie, but information D (Delta) is active, usually the controller will give an updated briefing. This is important because it lets both the pilots and controller know that they share the same mental model for the landing, preventing accidents.
@@orbital1782 In another ~2 months VAS will post the holiday clips, where some airports have fun and issue ATIS recordings with words like "MISTLETOE", "JINGLE BELLS", and "HOLIDAY CHEER".
not that hard to find you look at what systems were affected and what they have in common IE a common ground wire and then you go from there with the diag with looking at sensors and eventually the onboard computers bare in mind my info is from being a electronics/diag tech in automotive but i would figure it would be about the same in a plane
@vito774 considering it's the tail and upper back fuselage that's colored on ups planes, this is no factor for a lightning strike that most likely occured near the front/ lower fuselage
Little need. The flashing was at about 2 Hz. While this is within the range that may induce seizures (1-65 Hz), it is not within the optimal range for photic driving, which is 15-25 Hz. Intensities of 0.2-1.5 million candlepower are in the range to trigger seizures. (Robert S. Fisher, et al., _Epilepsia,_ Volume 46, Issue 9, September, 2005, pp. 1426-1441) It's definitely something to be aware of but, if you keep the frequency low and the brightness down, it probably won't be a problem. I'd be wary of going much over 2 Hz, though.
its all about the path the lightning takes to get to ground just like when you get an electric shock if it takes the wrong path it can kill you with only .6 of an amp
If you want to make sure, you can take a look at databases like the eurocontrol performance database. It's usually above a certain weight, but it's more about the wake turbulence a plane creates (which is why you have the weird B752 instance of a medium weight plane being separated like a heavy)
Is "left heading 270" just to slightly mentally aid the pilot? If you say just 270 I as a pilot should know where that is in coordinates but maybe it just eases the mental workload
The controller is calling out the direction TO turn to heading 270. There could be an obstruction at the flight level and if they turned right, whamo, kablamo.
Homes are struck by lightning everyday and most are fine as well, but there are always a few cases where people's homes get hit by lightning and their electronics get fried.
That line of storms looked really scary!!
Yeah, that was no joke!
As someone who grew up in the area. We get these kinds of storms a couple times a year. Mostly in March-May and Late October - November
yeah, it was pretty wild, fun for me sitting in my front yard, probably not so much at 10000 ft.
I don't know if this was trimmed but it's interesting to see the altimeter changing over the short period of time.
fairly normal for the areaa
6:21 "I can see the runway, I've got my warm fuzzy right now." What a wonderfully descriptive turn of phrase. 👍
That WAS pretty neat. The aircraft is still doing aircraft things, the controls are still doing control things, the engines are doing engine things, and he can see the flashy things on the ground... nothing else matters.
Not the first military pilot I’ve heard use the saying.
He is from the south! This IL Transplant lives in Georgia now, and that is how the folks are down here. Loved the interaction between tower and the aircraft. Calm and collected!
That was poop.
had to change to my " warm and fuzzy" troussers, because my regular pants are " brown and wet" from the lighting strike.
😁
That pilot sounded like he had been taken from an old western movie, love it!
And he flies an old Western MD-11 horse…
Good friend of mine. Very solid pilot.
He’s the only one without an accent from my perspective.😊
It's a Southern accent. And it's still in use today in the South!
My First PIC for major we took s strike from Alexandria,LA to Love Field ( Dallas TX ). The MD 80 went black but within 30 to 40 seconds returned. Longest time in my pilot career.
I worked at an airport years ago, and usually the cargo pilots wouldn't go through the civilian terminal. But that one time I saw them, the UPS pilots looked like the coolest cats out there. Wearing WW2 style brown leather bomber jackets with sheepskin collar, brown/khaki pants and shoes, patches all over the jackets and crew bag, and big lump of snuff/snus under his lip, ready to go fly the MD-11. What a dream job.
I fly the MD-11 and we sustained a direct lightning strike to the cockpit. Knocked my captain’s hand off his iPad. Amazingly we had no systems failures or abnormalities but it was one of the loudest things I’ve ever heard.
Do you like flying them? They are one of my favorite planes. Sad to see them end up in the boneyard soon. Beautiful to see them in flight.
@ They are very fun to fly and demand respect, especially during landing.
I would take all the “warm fuzzies” I could get❣️
Very professional and calm on both sides! Bravo!!👏🏻
I fly into Rockford sometimes. They have amazing controllers
😂😂😂 he said he's got his fuzzy back and can see the runway so, all was fine in the world, love it!
A good reminder there are aviators, controllers and ramp staff out there doing this work day and night, stormy and clear, all the time. Without them, regardless of politics, things wouldn’t work as well.
But things will work a lot better if Kamala is elected!!!! /s
Why would politics have anything to do with that?
@@gawwad4073 welcome to America. Enjoy your stay.
@@stevebalt5234hell no it wouldn’t
"I got my warm fuzzy"
Good pilot.
Thank goodness, I really needed that order delivered from Temu.
Thankful for UPS men who put in a solid effort to make our lives better daily
UPS753 I have you joining with the warm fuzzy, runway in sight
Getting hit by lightning I'm certainly was no fun. I recall back in the early days of the DC-10 we got hit by Lightning just after taking off from O'Hare and outside the window it looked like the sun had landed on the wing... Fortunately the pilot said the aircraft suffered no electrical issues and we continued on to LAX.
"[...] the sun landed on the wing." That's an amazing turn of phrase. I congratulate you!
you've been
THUNDERSTRUCK
That's very good dj! The comment/joke I mean. Not being actually struck by lightening or thunder.
😂❤
Its so weird seeing Rockford on here, being from there and seeing the airport become bigger and bigger over these years
Welcome to Illinois lol. A line of storms like this is fairly common during certain times of the year. These storms typically are moving very fast, and the line moves through pretty fast towards Lake Michigan. Pilots who fly into northern IL, southern Wisconsin often are used to these types of storms. However this was one hell of a line of storms
I am in northern Illinois, and I don't like this storms, these bring strong winds, sometimes 70 mph+ and lots of downed trees and power lines.
Captained a flight once from Washington state to Missouri that had to make it through a squall line across the lower 48. I vividly remember ATC saying "roger, no one's made it through yet, let us know if you do." Made it, but took a lightning strike that felt like a flashbang for our trouble. Lucky for us the jet was built in 1960 back when Boeing overengineered everything by 69%. Still thought the cabin air felt a little... static-y after that.
Smell of ozone in the air? 😂
Interesting coming across this the daybafter hearing Ward Carroll talking about the F35B incident from last year. Stuff going intermittent rather than hard failures or recovery. ESD mitigation can be hard. Lightning is a monster version of ESD.
Feedback: The flashing white overlay at the beginning of the video was rough for me, personally; would appreciate avoiding that kind of flashing in future videos. (Rare that I have feedback to give; love your work!)
Fun fact: all phones and monitors have a refresh rate. Everything is flashing at you. Way faster than that mediocre blinking. Car taillights flash as fast, if not faster.
We all need to pack some warm fuzzies these days!
From the cockpit, I always turn down the sensitivity of the radar and that appears to make the storm smaller and weaker.
Hopefully you don’t fly for any airline
Hahahaha
That should keep you safe! Wait... Are you controlling the weather???
Just gotta set SCE to AUX, she’ll be right.
lol good callback! Also tremendous episode (from earth to the moon)
Came here to say that! Nicely done.
You beat me by 6 hours - well done!
@@orbital1782 absolutely stunning series. One of my favorite episodes, always been a big fan of Al Bean.
Perfect handling of the emergency by everyone involved, well done to the flight crew and ATC.
Being able to see the runway - lotsa warm fuzzies LMAO
I loved the flashing. Great artistry!
Cool, calm and professional…what an exceptional pilot!! He’s probably the Chief Pilot; if he isn’t he should be.
Warm fuzzy! lol
Thank you!
always good when you get the warm and fuzzy inside lol
0:32 - - no information / unreliable airspeed - - 0:36
1:06 - - unreliable airspeed, nav problems, other issues, lightning? ⚡️🌩️⛈️
1:18 - - “things coming + going”
4:09 - - avionics working?
5:21 - - still on emergency status
5:28 - - souls + fuel (4 souls, 3hrs fuel)
6:12 - - “a lot of things we lost, would come back, lose + come back + it’s still happening.”
6:21 - - “I can see the runway, I’ve got my warm fuzzy right now.”
7:16 - - successfully on the ground
7:22 - - had a lot of problems - - 7:25
7:30 - - “we just had some electrical issues with the airplane” - - 7:36
I live and fly out of RFD. Really busy now with UPS. Fun to listen to them land in shit weather at 2am.
A UPS MD-11 did recently land after possibly getting struck by lightning and had a few instrument irregularities. There are so many redundancies in aviation and it's so rare to have any effect I wouldn't worry!
UPS1387 has a dreamy voice 😍
Wiscair 700 sounded tipsy
mi condolencia a Usted y el Reino De España por las perdidas en Valencia, Saludos Ibero
Muchas gracias. Momentos difíciles.
@@VASAviation ¿Eres español? Mi corazón también está con la gente de tu país. Qué triste imagen. Hay muchos muertos y desaparecidos. El dueño de la tienda de comestibles que abrió sus puertas y dijo: "Toma lo que necesites". Estaba casi inundado y embarrado, pero parecía que había suficiente comida para ayudar. Eso fue muy triste y generoso. ¡Mis mejores deseos!
"Known Pitch and Power..."
Mentour has an episode on this
Oof, can't deal with the flashing. Will have to try when I don't have a headache. Is the flashing only at the start?
Stops by 0:29
Got struck by lightning?
Coulda done without the flashing at the start
Really sorry
Did you have seizures? 🤣
@@jde1780 Some people are just sensitive to flashing light like that, even if they don't have epilepsy.
Oh, I’m so sorry that this free video is not exactly to your liking.
@@jde1780ATC Audio Dance Club!!!😮
That probable lightning strike fed those pilots quite a "shotgun blast" of problems to figure out what to do with, I wonder if the fact they had 4 pilots on board was any factor?
In any case, kudos to the pilots and controllers for making this "just another mishap", and even better, the kind that probably didn't even make the local news unless they have a habit of monitoring ATC for such things.
Sure would like to hear the story from the mechanics that work on this aircraft to figure out 1. where the lightning struck and exited, and 2. what systems got fried and how badly!
This story told over ATC radio by the pilots of them "losing systems and then them coming back repeatedly" sure sounds to my brain like some sort of automatically resetting circuit protection devices (like circuit breakers, but instead of tripping off and staying off, they trip off, cool down, and try to reset themselves) either got damaged or was doing it's job to prevent further damage to the aircraft, either way I'd like to know what the mechanics think happened!
Did they have 4 pilots? They had 4 souls, but loadmasters and payload specialists still have souls AFAIK
Just jump seaters probably. I Jumpseat ups to work and home. It’s very typical to fly ups pilots or airline pilots home. Md has extra jump seat cabin super nice seats
@@Ea-Nasir_Copper_Co (Theoretically)
Dogs and cats are always a challenge. Keep the Blue Up Victor!!!!!!!!
Love that pilots accent… What area would he be from?
Texas. 🤠
@@nineteenfrankieYes, I got some Slim Pickens vibe 😊
I didn't know Rockford was a UPS hub. Interesting.
Yep, pretty big one too.
2nd largest in the US.
@@dylandog1289it’s not Ontario?
come on, others landed on the moon after being struck by lightning..
Apollo 12 is that you?
Epilepsy Alert: 0:07 - 0:29
When the 2nd UPS flight (not the emergency flight) said "we have charlie onboard", what does that mean? Thx in advance!
probably the ATIS information (Automated terminal information system) which broadcasts local information like winds and runway in use.
because this is often updated, ATIS comes with a letter tag, in this case C (Charlie is ICAO alphabet for C, because saying 'I have cee' sounds a lot like both C, D, E, G, and P and so to avoid confusion they use a standardised set). When the pilot comes in to an airport, they listen to the ATIS to get an expectation of where they will land and how much crosswind there will be, and they tell the controller that they have that information with the letter tag.
If (for example) they are in a storm and the winds have shifted, or that they simply were held for a while, and they say we have information Charlie, but information D (Delta) is active, usually the controller will give an updated briefing.
This is important because it lets both the pilots and controller know that they share the same mental model for the landing, preventing accidents.
Weather data report.
@@minyiiiii super helpful thanks miny!
@@orbital1782 In another ~2 months VAS will post the holiday clips, where some airports have fun and issue ATIS recordings with words like "MISTLETOE", "JINGLE BELLS", and "HOLIDAY CHEER".
What does it mean "I've got my warm fuzzy right now" on 06:23?
No, approach - he didn't say he had his teddy bear. XD
We have Charlie on board - dude has no idea that would have been bad 50 years ago.
What does "we have Charley on board" mean?
They have ATIS information
that means they have the current ATIS terminal weather and stuff
They've got an undetermined number of souls on board? I guess Saint Peter uses UPS now?
we have charlie onboard?!? Charlie who, charlie brown?
I feel sorry for maintenance having to look for a lightning strike.
not that hard to find you look at what systems were affected and what they have in common IE a common ground wire and then you go from there with the diag with looking at sensors and eventually the onboard computers bare in mind my info is from being a electronics/diag tech in automotive but i would figure it would be about the same in a plane
@@wolvesone You can also usually see them pretty well on a plane (burned spots)
@@lyaneris yea i was just saying from a wire diag standpoint i would assume there would be burns on the paint
@@lyanerisnot when part of the paint is brown
@vito774 considering it's the tail and upper back fuselage that's colored on ups planes, this is no factor for a lightning strike that most likely occured near the front/ lower fuselage
For me: Warm and fuzzy once exiting taxiway…..😳
Flash warning or epilepsy warning would be helpful. That level of flashing can cause people to have seizures.
Probably want to put a flashing image warning on this.
Little need. The flashing was at about 2 Hz. While this is within the range that may induce seizures (1-65 Hz), it is not within the optimal range for photic driving, which is 15-25 Hz. Intensities of 0.2-1.5 million candlepower are in the range to trigger seizures. (Robert S. Fisher, et al., _Epilepsia,_ Volume 46, Issue 9, September, 2005, pp. 1426-1441)
It's definitely something to be aware of but, if you keep the frequency low and the brightness down, it probably won't be a problem. I'd be wary of going much over 2 Hz, though.
@@johnopalko5223 That, and photosensitive epilepsy is the least common type of epilepsy.
Epileptic people are only a very small percentage of people who are sensitive to flashing. It's an easy request to accommodate.
Unreliable airspeed. Hmmm…. I used to freeze over pitot static systems in the sim to illicit that.
i thought planes can get struck by lightning without any issued…
Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
its all about the path the lightning takes to get to ground just like when you get an electric shock if it takes the wrong path it can kill you with only .6 of an amp
It’s an old/discontinued model so they probs aren’t up to date on all the weatherproofing that can be done?
@@ToothlesstheNightFury510🤦♂️
Kachow!
Sounds like Tx
A flash sensitivity warning is needed
Why did he clear him down to 2500, then tell him to start the rnav at or above 3000
Yes I can read your title without random capitalizing words
Cry more
Video needs some kind of flashing lights warning. The flashing radar is quite triggering for the first 30 seconds.
Indeed. That radar time update was painful.
Im Shocked
My eyes got struck, too, by the flashing at the start of the video.
Is the Wiscair guy drunk?
That sounded Halloweenish, when he said "... souls..." 😮
"Everything is coming and going" oh, that is some heavy stress, they must have celebrated once they parked
I get the impression they were in the air wishing they were on the ground. Probably needed a drink after that landing.
That's slightly concerning, these planes are supposed to be able to handle lightning strike.
What's with the epileptic inducing flashing!
Pansy net jets would have diverted instead of continuing
5:44 since when is an A300F4-605 a heavy aircraft? I learned it to be a medium one…
I have always refered to it as a heavy as well with MTOW over 136 tons.
If you want to make sure, you can take a look at databases like the eurocontrol performance database.
It's usually above a certain weight, but it's more about the wake turbulence a plane creates (which is why you have the weird B752 instance of a medium weight plane being separated like a heavy)
We don’t have a plane that isn’t considered a heavy
What is that black chart background, and how does one read it? Why not just use google Maps background
It's the real controllers radar scope.
bc google maps does not do eg. waypoints that aviators use for navigating
Is "left heading 270" just to slightly mentally aid the pilot? If you say just 270 I as a pilot should know where that is in coordinates but maybe it just eases the mental workload
The controller is calling out the direction TO turn to heading 270. There could be an obstruction at the flight level and if they turned right, whamo, kablamo.
Really bad flashing screen, no one wants that when watching on a 75” tv.
Do better Vas.
Planes are struck by Lightning every day… Very very common. So is this a maintenance issue??
Planes get struck by lightning everyday?
Homes are struck by lightning everyday and most are fine as well, but there are always a few cases where people's homes get hit by lightning and their electronics get fried.
Awful first 29 seconds of this. Flashing screen bad.
Why vector the second aircraft in front of them?! To push Murphy's law and ask for a blown tire on the runway? Unbelievable...
thats a UPS hub??