Misconceptions about ENTRY LEVEL MASTERS IN NURSING PROGRAMS
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- As an Entry Level Master's of science in nursing student I figured, I could be the one to clarify some of the misconceptions regarding programs like mine! The intent is to help prospective students get a bit of clarification regarding some of the important things to know when considering programs like this. For example, in this video, I discuss some of the different names programs like mine go by such as Direct Entry Masters of Science in Nursing, Masters entry into nursing practice (MENP), Accelerated BSN-MSN, etc. As well as covering some considerations between Accelerated bachelors of science in nursing ( ABSN) and Entry Level Masters of Science in nursing programs. They will both get you into nursing but are mostly chosen based on an individual basis, there isn't necessarily a RIGHT or WRONG option! I hope you find this video helpful!
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TIME STAMPS!
2:18 The different names for these programs
3:33 Programs to become an RN vs NP ( hint: each school titles their program differently)
6:12 Why you should know that you want before you apply
6:55 The flexibility of an FNP
8:07 ABSN vs. ELMSN + Costs
9:40 Clinical hours and experience
please dear help me with this question..i am currently in 3rd bsn nursing in ukraine . can i move to australia for master once am done with bsn here without have having a license from my country of birth
Thank you for this. I feel like a lot of prospective students don’t see the full picture or the benefits of accelerated programs because there’s a lot of misinformation and pressure from nurses who have worked in the field their whole careers. It’s a bummer and we should all try to encourage people who want to take this route regardless of where you come from, because the fact of the matter is we could all learn from each other and learn from everyone’s experiences.
I just got admitted to an accelerated program myself and I’ve for sure heard all the pros and cons and unwarranted opinions. But all that matters in the end is your goal, and if an accelerated program gets you there faster, then I don’t see the issue. We all go into every career without experience... nothing truly prepares you for real life.
Well said! Thanks for this video! I always enjoy them! Keep doing what you're doing, you're helping a lot of us!
La Perle des Antilles! Thank you so much for your support, this really encourages to keep making good content to help as much as I can!
I can promise y’all, the entire hour I spent filming this, I did not notice that spot on my shirt, I DEFINITELY noticed it all 4 hours I spent editing.... 🥴 like this comment if you noticed too!
Haha! I didn’t notice until I read this comment and went back. It kinda look like a logo 😉! Great video. I’m looking to apply to both but my hope is to be admitted to an MDEN-DNP program!
Donzell Lampkins hahaha we’ll just pretend it was a logo 🤣🤣! Good Luck Donzell!! You got this!
I did not notice anything! You look great!
Not until you mentioned it
This information is timely!!!!! Quarantine has definitely shown me I need to go back to school and get my license! GOD just keeps opening up doors for me and I’m just walking through! Thank you for this! What school do you attend?
You are welcome, & you got this!
Subscribed! Awesome breakdown, Danielle! I agree with everything you said 💯 I do think there's a difference between specialties, too. If you're going into an adult/gerontology acute care specialty, you might struggle if you don't have RN experience. You're dealing with a higher level of acuity and perform lots of procedures. Now compare that to a specialty with a lower level of acuity... If you're specializing in primary care (family, adult/gero, or peds primary care), I don't think you suffer from having limited/no hospital RN experience. It's a completely different ballgame!
These are great pointers, thank you so much for sharing this! I know a few colleagues who take at least a year off from school to start working full time and I can see why that is necessary!
First, love your eyes and brows! and second, thank you for this information. I've narrowed it down to all the programs you've mentioned in the video. I have questions around financing the program which you mentioned briefly here. Would love a video on how to finance for the ELMSN programs cause they're so costly!
OMG thank you so much!!! Im glad you found this video helpful! I will definitely make a video about the costs and expenses!
Great info! Thank you for sharing! I'm looking into this. I didn't know it existed. ❤❤❤
Loved your video!!! provided tons of useful information - keep making videos sis ❤️
Thank you so much, you too!!! Best of luck on your journey as well, these programs are no joke! 💛💛
Thank you! Finally one person that explains things easy. My lord! So many titles in the healthcare field! Smh. lol
THANK YOU!!! literally the most helpful video everrrr
You are absolutely Amazing! Congratulations on your most recent accomplishment! Continue to turn the negative/unnecessary feedback received on occasion, into something positive - such as " providing this informative video".
And remember - sometimes you don't haveto respond to " your critics" . Lastly, I love how you carry yourself as a black educated professional. Stay Focused & God Bless!
Thank you so so much! This really does mean a lot!
I love this so much! Many people don’t have videos on ELMSN programs so I appreciate this! I want to attend programs in California so I’m excited! Do you have a video or list or different schools that have ELMSN programs? It’s hard to find programs outside of California.
Thank you so much!! I'm glad you're excited, I hope you make it in to the program of your dreams!!
Samuel Merritt, University of Pacific and UC Davis Betty Irene Moore are great options.
Thank You! I was looking up reviews for the nursing schools im interested in and so many comments had said that NP school is a waste of time because you will not have enough experience. Then they went on to write how they went to NP school and quit after the RN year because they preferred bedside nursing. My goal in life is to become a Nurse Practitioner and your video helped me realize that those people did not know what they wanted to do and I should keep pushing towards my goal. Ive been a CNA for a few years btw and I know that keeping up with skills as a bedside nurse is essential for NP's as well just like you stated with the Neuro NP you know.
Yes, some people do give up on their NP goal or push it aside when they find that the RN level is what they are more comfortable with. But keep pursuing your goals and good luck on making the decision as to what school you'll go to and the route you want to take!
@@TheDanielleDenise Hey Danielle I have one more question:
How many MEPN schools did you apply to?
Great info! Currently looking into an msn and this was helpful
So glad, thank you for watching!
Thanks so much! It sounds like you’re local. I’ve been looking at two local schools - Mercer and Brenau (which is what it sounds like you refer to). Thoughts on one over the other? 😬😬
Hi There - very helpful. Are there any benefits for programs that off a joint BSN/MSN over just an MSN?
So if the problem is direct entry and you're able to apply for the nclex-rn, I would have to apply to a rn-msn bridge to become a nurse practitioner? or do you think a post- certificate master's degree after this program would fulfill? I'm looking at Montclair state university but it only states you'll receive an rn.
Currently, I'm looking into the MDE program at Columbia School of Nursing in NYC. Hopefully, I'm projecting to get in 2022 or 2023 💛🦋🌼🌻🌟✨☀🌈
You’re awesome thank you!! One question. Do you think it is more valuable to do the University of SF 2 year entry MSN program you mentioned rather than a CSU BSN program even though for both of them you are considered technically still an RN? Would it set you apart to employers because you have a MSN even though it’s a general MSN with no concentration? I can’t decide between which of the two programs to accept :(
So what I've learned so far is that some employers want to specifically see BSN because some hospitals want to either achieve Magnet status or already a Magnet hospital which requires a BSN. But this is in just some cases and since there are so many hospitals with different requirements, at the. end of the day you're going to hold the RN title which is what they need and a Masters is a masters degree. It gets complicated. I'm going to look into it some more to get a more clear answer. If anything I'd recommend a Masters entry program that awards a BSN too.
Thank you so much for this information!!
You are so welcome, glad it was helpful!
For a Master's Program for Nursing, do you have to defend your thesis? Also, what is the name of the school that you are currently attending? If you take the NCLEX, can you work in all 50 states, or do you have to take the NCLEX for the specific state that you want to practice? I am from California, so what exam do I have to take to get my license as the RN nurse?
Hi Danielle Denise! Love your videos!! I'm applying for ABSN and Entry level masters programs for 2021. I live in Southern California but my dream school is Johns Hopkins nursing school but the only thing is that their tuition is crazy expensive. Are entry level masters students are eligible for financial aid? I know for ABSN programs they will only accept loans to help cover tuition and not financial aid from the government.
Great Question! I'm not sure if I answered this before, but you apply for the same financial aid through FAFSA, but most graduate students are only awarded Graduate loans. You can apply for scholarships outside of Government aid as well.
I have worked in an hospital in my home country as admin assistant at the health insurance unit. My main responsibility was to pick up patients with health insurance documents from the various medical departments and prepare insurance claims. Can this count as practical or clinical experience in support of my application?
i think so long as one takes an RN job after she/he finishes the BSN component of the program, and while doing the MSN component, then it's fine. An actual RN job experience is critical to enrich one's clinical acumen, as the clinical hours as a student is just not enough.
I am currently a senior in college and I am looking forward to applying to the direct entry program soon. I wanted to get my cna license and work until I am all ready to apply. My cna instructor kinda discouraged me today because she was saying the same thing about how she doesn’t think those programs give the NP a lot of experiences and it would be harder to find a job because we are going to be competing with people who have a lot of experience as RNs and eventually went into NP. Hopefully it won’t be so hard finding a job after the program like she says :(. Watching this video made me feel a lot better. Thank you
Hello, thank you for sharing this with me. I'm tired of hearing prospective students basically being told that the traditional way is the ONLY way to go about it. Many successful nurses have come from programs like this whether they go on to become NP's or not. Not all of the programs lead to NP as well so I doubt that the instructor would stress that it's hard finding a job as a regular RN too because the field is always short-staffed. Jobs are out there and it's going to be about how you market yourself and the connections you make on the way to NP. Those opinions typically (not always) come from nurses who have worked for so many years and are upset that someone else did it faster, and sometimes, do the job better than them. If you're good at what you do, you'll find a job, especially if you're teachable, they will want you! There are people with years of experience who aren't offered the same opportunities as some new grads, and that's seen in other professions too.
The Lois Wonder don’t listen to her she trying to hold you back ! Get it done an over with
@@tinacd100 YESSSS!!!
Don't be discouraged! I heard the same opinions--frankly, they're misinformed! 96% of graduates from my direct entry MSN program found a job before or right after graduation. Research the program! Some are better than others. Ask about their outcomes and reputation among employers. Working as a CNA will set you up for success--it really helped me transition into the hospital setting. You got this, girl! Don't listen to the naysayers. You can become a fantastic practitioner if you put in the work, seek out mentors, etc.
@@emilyreeves7854 Which MSN program did you go to?
Just to clarify, do you recommend getting your ABSN rather than your ELMSN if you want to be a CRNA due to the fact that most programs result in the certification as an NP? Because since most CRNA programs require ICU experience being an NP won’t allow you to work in that field correct? I want to be a CRNA and thought that an ELMSN program would have been best but after hearing your video and seeing that the schools i’m interested certify you to become a NP and receive an MSN. I’m somewhat leaning towards an ABSN program😓
Yes, an ABSN would be the most time and cost effective option for becoming a CRNA from a non nursing background. This allows you to finish school and start working in less than two years. Hopefully you can get a new grad job in the ICU and start getting those required hours and then apply for a CRNA program. If you were to choose ELMSN if you'd rather have a masters first, I would opt for a direct entry program that just gets you to RN because thats all you'll really need for CRNA. If you went as far as to get your NP thats about 3 years or more of just going to school and not getting ICU experience for credentials you won't use if your main goal is to be a CRNA. They're both advanced practice registered nurses but very different specialities.
Hi Danielle, thank you so much for sharing all of this! I recently started looking into the MEPN at USD and Azusa Pacific. I'm wondering if becoming a CNA before I apply for the program will help my application since I have no background in healthcare whatsoever. USD does require 100 hours (either paid or volunteer) in a clinic or hospital setting so I thought becoming a CNA would be a good foundation for the healthcare setting and would give me valuable experiences. I have talked to my parents and they have spoken to their nurse friends and they almost discourage going the CNA route since I don't have to and it's really hard work. They are worried it will be a waste of time and money because I have a bachelor's already but I try to explain that since I have no background in healthcare I have to start at the beginning. Do you suggest going the CNA route or applying to jobs in hospitals or clinics? Most places require some previous experience and my background is in early childhood education. I'm going to watch your video on "entry level healthcare jobs" next!
Hi Christine!
I am a CNA and I would advise anyone to work as a CNA before they enter nursing school for four reasons
1. It looks great on your nursing application
2. Educated and skilled CNA's are essential to the health field
3. Being a CNA is not an easy job, most people have misconceptions of nursing stating "I will not have to change my patient, or deal with I.V blood spills because the CNA is there" But in reality Nurses do all the dirty work as well and the CNAs are there to assist the Nurse in patient care ( hence the name). So this job is great for people to shadow Nurses daily in order to decide if they are 100% committed to Nursing school.
4. This is not a minimum wage career and you will be able to make a little more money than you would working in a retail job during school.
Sophia A. Thank you so much for sharing this! CNA’s are valued and a great entry or lifetime career! You made very valid and excellent points.
Hey!! So I personally did not do the CNA route, nor did many of my peers. You can get into a program without! My advice would be to just give your application a shot before completing a CNA program and working. This way you can "save time", but there is no rush on achieving your goals. There is nothing wrong with becoming a CNA, if anything it can be helpful!
Definitely weigh out the pros and cons, and take the route that you want to take. There's not one right way! Best of luck on your apps! I hope to hear good news from you in the future!
Hi Christine! I seriously considered all of the options you suggested from CNA to the programs offered at APU and USD, lol. I chose to gain volunteer experience with Sharp Memorial to gain an overall perspective and experience while gaining value added volunteer hours for my nursing application. I am also going to begin taking prereqs through Palomar while making a decision on the nursing program. Hope this helps and good luck to you!
If you go in to be a PMHNP can you switch to an FNP or would you have to go back to go back to school?
After the DEMSN and passing the NCLEX would you only be able to get RN jobs or would you be qualified for specialized RN jobs. I literally learned about DEMSN program today lol
Hi Danielle, how do you feel about direct entry FNP programs? (I'm sorry if you've already been asked this a million times) For instance, some programs are only 2 years: 1 year to get your RN, 1 year to complete FNP training. Do you think that is enough for someone who has not worked as a nurse beforehand? I am seriously considering this path. However, my experience so far is that most people online and PA/NPs I have spoken with seem to frown upon the direct NP path. Thoughts?
What program is that?
Great video:). Thanks for helping our fellow masters nurses to be!
Of course!!! Happy to help!
My school offers a program that allows graduates who majored in a diff major and decide to become a nurse by getting their MSN and by the end of the program you are able to take your NCLEX-RN but due to some issues with me getting into the actual nursing major I have to earn my bachelors in something else so I decided to major in Public Health and get a MSN but I’ll technically be considered a registered nurse with a MSN is this a good idea? Will I have good job opportunities?
I'm in the same boat as you! I did my bachelor's in public health and am going back for my msn. The programs I've been looking at are becoming a registered nurse as well as obtaining a clinical lead nurse certificate to have a lead role in the nursing career!
Thank you for this video 🤍
You're welcome!! And thank you for watching!
Being that we're in quarantine right now and it's impossible to take in-person classes for certain certifications. I just wanted to know, from your perspective, If I wanted to take an online certification course like EMT or CNA, what would be some things that indicate if an online program is reliable?
I would be sure to look for a reputable program that has been available for a long time, if it’s possible to find reviews I would glance at those. I’d also recommend Finding a program that is open about their efforts to progress with the program in the midst of this pandemic! You often can’t go wrong with a community college or junior college CNA or EMT program.
@@TheDanielleDenise this was very helpful, thank you!
Are pre registration masters nursing degrees more difficult than bsc?
I love your videos!
Madison Sherwood That is so sweet, thank you!! I'm glad you enjoy them! 💛
You should do a video on how to prepare for a interview that would be helpful !💕
I have a video on some interview tips, and it includes some of the questions asked. I can definitely make a video for interview prep as well.
The Danielle Denise okay thanks!
I just got accepted to a direct entry masters of science in nursing and i also applied to just an ABSN program, this video helped! Although I never done clinicals or patient facing jobs I know I can be great at it with practice and time. I also do agree with the cost. It seems the direct entry is better for me cost wise and slightly cheaper so we will see.
I should clarify.. the NEU program is 74k per year (BSN and MSN) and ABSN alone is 95k for one of the schools for 12 months and the other school for ABSN is 84-87k for 16 months.
Thank you
Hi Denise, thanks for your video please what university does master in nursing in Norway.
Hello, thanks for asking but I'm not sure. I am only familiar with U.S. based programs.
Do you have an online NP Psychiatric Mental Health you recommend?
Unfortunately, I don't but the AACN may have a list of options.
If I get an MSN first and not a BSN not an associate RN, can I still do everything a regular RN do or is there something I can’t do?
Is it better not to get a BSN rather than MSN if the end goal is CRNA?
You can still get a job as an RN and do everything an RN does. YOu'll be taking the same NCLEX as an associate R.N. and a BSN prepared R.N. The struggle comes when you try to apply to jobs and they want nurses that have a BSN and you have to explain to them how your program works, then some people want you to go back and it can be a whole thing. But thats just at certain hospitals.
When you say there's just one entry level MSN to become a CRNA, which are u referring to
The one which requires a BSN
girl…. your attitude - is what id want in my nurse 😭
Omg that means a lot 🥺! I try to find the balance between my personality and professionalism at work though, but its hard lol
What school do you go to?
Hello everyone I'm in Georgia. I already 2 bachelor degree already. I want to go back for nursing. I need help understanding what to do. I have no more financial aid
The school that I am interested in, cost about $60000 for 1 year. Does that seem like a reasonable amount? Please reply.
Madam Naija is that just for tuition or overall costs? My overall costs; tuition fees, room & board, and other life expenses fall in that range. But juuuuuust tuition idk if I would say, weigh the pros and cons before you decide. Is it a good school? Is this something you’re financially able to handle? It’s all relative to what you feel you’re willing to invest. I wish you the best!
@@TheDanielleDenise Thanks for replying! It is just for tuition, and for a BSN for that matter. You just gave me my answer, totally not worth it lol. Schools are just so competitive over. here.
They crazy
hi, what school did you go for entry level master? did you say you are getting bsn and if you want t0o conitnue you can go ahead and get msn?
Did you have to take the GRE?
No , thank goodness! I made sure I only applied to programs that did not require it.
Can you link your program? Thank you !
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Great content! Have you heard of Samuel Merrit? Is it worth it
Tha T yes I have! I have a friend that goes there and they love it!
I go there currently. It’s a terrific program. Sorry I’m 8 months too late, but hopefully this helps!
Have you found any entry nurse practioner programs? I’ve only found two in the entire USA.
There are definitely more than that, have you seen this video ua-cam.com/video/yxBGoN3NxPc/v-deo.html.
Towards the end I help you navigate the aacnnursing.org site so that you can find an entire list of schools across the country.
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Not everyone's path allows them to gain years of nursing experience prior to becoming an NP. Unfortunately, the pushback and criticism are very harsh and make you doubt your ability to make it, to reach your goals, and be successful if you didn't follow the traditional path. Also, trying to find a level entry position as an RN, BSN is hard unless your schedule allows you to go full time and work the night shift. I'm in graduate school full time (3 courses), and can barely meet my deadlines as is. I can only accept a part-time position but most facilities won't hire new nurses part-time. Such a vicious cycle! Since my priority is to wrap up school asap, guess I'll be counting on my NP clinicals to get me up to snuff!
Are you able to take at least six months to a year off from school to get some full time experience and then find a part time or per diem job? I know it isn’t always doable but if you are able to I recommend that. But of course you don’t have to. If anything just keep searching l, it may not end up being a job you want necessarily.
I want to go back to school and be a nurse but money is the issue.
A more cost efficient way to get your RN would be going to a junior college or community college. Then you can start working and try to get your job to pay for your RN to BSN program, through tuition reimbursement! I don't want you to give up on your dreams, Ill start looking into more affordable options and get a video up on that soon!
@@TheDanielleDenise thank you 🥰
The Danielle Denise how long would you have to work for the company or hospital If they paid for you to get the BSN?
Will this leads me to become a DON
Are you referring to a Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) or Ph.D? Because if so, no, you'd be looking for a different program.