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  • @wearedoomed9374
    @wearedoomed9374 День тому +101

    First guy blind countered himself lol

    • @Cheshire9k
      @Cheshire9k 23 години тому +10

      There was only 1 game

    • @mrv6554
      @mrv6554 22 години тому +22

      To be fair, so did the last guy.

  • @MedicJR
    @MedicJR День тому +126

    Most normal Zerg opener

    • @inmundo6927
      @inmundo6927 День тому

      yeah, like Queens aren't "units". They only defend against EVERYTHING... ...

  • @khianidude
    @khianidude День тому +30

    He did know about the gold base, he attacked it with Zealots shortly after you took it.

    • @Cheshire9k
      @Cheshire9k 23 години тому +1

      Yeah Harstem looking at the Hatchery being damaged "i dont think he knows"

  • @itsQuilow
    @itsQuilow День тому +33

    Reynor standard build order challenge

  • @decarkain8248
    @decarkain8248 День тому +191

    5000 minerals!, hate to say it, but you should get a macro hatch

    • @Stardash81
      @Stardash81 День тому +13

      He was maxed out almost the entire time

    • @DaRealLegacy
      @DaRealLegacy День тому +5

      @@Stardash81which should reinforce the need to get it more

    • @graverobber575
      @graverobber575 День тому +4

      ​@@DaRealLegacy how exactly does a macro hatch help when you cant make new units?

    • @nef36
      @nef36 День тому

      @@graverobber575 @@graverobber575 Throw some lings at their economy, also, being maxed out means you don't need minerals for units, so more hatches mean faster remaxxing

    • @Changsta31
      @Changsta31 День тому +40

      @@graverobber575 His biggest issue was lacking larva to remax with, so macro hatches would've helped with that. Harstem's injects aren't the best when he's in late game mode. Not a knock on him, he doesn't main zerg and it's hard to keep injecting in that situation. He also just stopped expanding which seems a bit odd when his bases would get mined out quicker than usual. He almost threw a game he was way ahead on lol

  • @NoluckBear
    @NoluckBear День тому +18

    This probably was one of the most intense and enjoyable games I‘ve ever seen!

  • @ChannelMiner
    @ChannelMiner День тому +8

    He made Overlords gg, he should only get more supply from hatcheries Kappa

  • @zergling123
    @zergling123 День тому +15

    Dude forgot that the oracle is called oracle after playing for 20 years

    • @jeppel1972
      @jeppel1972 День тому +1

      the 20 years is why, he doesn't know this new stuff

    • @zergling123
      @zergling123 День тому +1

      @@jeppel1972 That's not really new, specially for a Protoss player

    • @ShelbySigouin
      @ShelbySigouin День тому +1

      @@zergling123 lmfao if you know you know
      also he called his hive a nexus when upgrading to it
      that protoss brain kicking

    • @martinprince8253
      @martinprince8253 День тому

      Lexus/Hexus

  • @Fofnful
    @Fofnful День тому +11

    Question: Why didnt he clear protoses entire main when the entire army of protos was clearing his base? Couldnt he have won much sooner if he destroyed all buildings when he had the army there?

    • @Changsta31
      @Changsta31 День тому +2

      I was wondering that too. There was a good minute he was wandering around the middle of the map when he could've easily just cleared Protoss's main. Made it very close. The only thing I could imagine was that he knew the toss was supply blocked and thus couldn't make anything. And he didn't think he would win based off eliminating all buildings condition.

    • @JohnMelon-qg9tj
      @JohnMelon-qg9tj День тому

      yup

    • @pawacoteng
      @pawacoteng День тому +10

      Classic way for zerg to throw a game, lock yourself in your opponents main then get stormed to death trying to fight your way out.

    • @rylandrc
      @rylandrc 21 годину тому +1

      Because hindsight is 20/20

  • @milanmach2379
    @milanmach2379 День тому +10

    As a random with a really crappy Zerg, this is basically my playstyle. Pumping waves of drones is just so satisfying compared to how Terran and Protoss train them so slowly.

    • @inmundo6927
      @inmundo6927 День тому

      oh, so its acknowledged Zerg builds them at an insane rate. (Takes a random player to admit it)

    • @ShelbySigouin
      @ShelbySigouin День тому

      @@inmundo6927 at the cost of your army
      legit against my protoss Harstem is dead because at 5 minutes i am hitting you with 8 gate charge lot and with 0 units your just dead

    • @ShelbySigouin
      @ShelbySigouin День тому

      and that is why your zerg is crappy
      in truth zerg don't build drones faster then terran or protoss they actually build them slower
      Protoss warps in nexus builds probe, ques prob
      Terran builds Command Center builds scv, ques scv
      Zerg morphs into Hatchery, spawns larva then morphs 1st larva into drone, waiting for 2nd larva to spawn to morph into drone
      see the difference
      Terran and protss go straight to into building and queing while the zerg has to literally wait for the larva to exist to morph it into a drone, they can't que a damn thing up
      this makes zerg harder to play because you need vision to play zerg, you need to be able to see where you are and where your going and how to get there, you lack any of these 3 things and your zerg is doomed s to suck forever
      you play zerg and know it sucks because you do the same thing over and over again and the only thing that separates the sane and the insane is, expecting a different result while doing the exact same thing over and over again, so my question to you is
      are you doing the exact same thing over and over again while expecting a different result?
      and if you are then you are insane

    • @panner11
      @panner11 16 годин тому +1

      @@ShelbySigouin This is copypasta worthy. No way anyone is this pent up and triggered over people stating obvious things like droning being the fastest way to pump workers, which is why in standard pro games, zerg is supposed to stay ahead in workers. That last paragraph is especially deranged, like who are you talking to bro?

  • @honzaasterba
    @honzaasterba День тому +9

    I miss the greediest man alive.

  • @ironsilk6634
    @ironsilk6634 День тому +5

    Captain, you made this so unnecessarily close.

  • @repit5014
    @repit5014 День тому +5

    Drone so hard, Huk is tryna outmine me

  • @svsv1191
    @svsv1191 День тому +14

    Make it 90 and your liquid ret

    • @Weimar
      @Weimar День тому +2

      I was thinking as wel.. this is just another day in the life for good old Ret

    • @svsv1191
      @svsv1191 День тому +3

      @@Weimar 90 drones every game, what a legend truly ahead of his time we had no idea what he was going for

  • @jerubaal101
    @jerubaal101 День тому +2

    Somewhere out there, Day9 is smiling.

  • @michaelwicker9538
    @michaelwicker9538 День тому +6

    This is how I like to play AOE2 when I forget to build pikeman and get swarmed by 20 knights.

  • @Duckface994
    @Duckface994 12 годин тому +1

    Not sure if it's already been done, but what about upgrading to 3/3 before building units?

  • @KerdeadB
    @KerdeadB День тому +1

    At the end I noticed he actually had an observer in his base 26:54 XD

  • @Tillvioliniert
    @Tillvioliniert День тому +2

    Now do it with protoss 😂

    • @michaelwicker9538
      @michaelwicker9538 День тому +1

      You have to cannon defend your own expansions.

    • @Stardash81
      @Stardash81 День тому

      It's non viable with other races cause you can't sacrifice your army production to produce more workers (or vice versa) as easily

  • @kittyflier8338
    @kittyflier8338 15 годин тому

    Meh. Nice idea but poorly executed. Were it Serral he will end the game after hitting the 100 drone mark in 3 minutes by blowing up everything with banelings or something.

  • @memph1ston
    @memph1ston 17 годин тому

    ok, next game rush vipers but you can't use "abduct". like, no hotkey for that spell. you can click it I guess because that's its' own handicap.

  • @0xbaadf00d
    @0xbaadf00d День тому

    I used to play 3v3s with my friends. I played zerg and only built drones queens and hatcheries. I pumped all resources to my allies. It was kinda funny. I wonder if pros could use something like this in 3v3s or such.

  • @korlic9
    @korlic9 21 годину тому

    in the first game you say its not great to lose a few drones and get attacked by the first oracle/adepts, however i would imagine you trading your tech and early units for drones means you trading a few drones for his army lessens the strength of the inevitable midgame attack. objectively a good thing for a zerg with 100 drones and queens to defend. I think you have relatively good defence early midgame when toss gets his first tech units out.

  • @alesjaterka2155
    @alesjaterka2155 13 годин тому

    At the end, there is visible, that the prottos has observer in the bottom left corner of the screen.
    Good call that Harstem didn't suicided his hydras for getting the Oracle.

  • @davidelrizzo
    @davidelrizzo 14 годин тому

    You probably could have destroyed all his buildings ¾ of the way through

  • @youknownothing1242
    @youknownothing1242 День тому

    I feel like once you saw him going air mass corruptor with the lurkers you already had would have won pretty hard. Just leapfrog forward like you're terran

  • @dekwoo1
    @dekwoo1 День тому

    Wouldn’t you be able to rush evo chambers. And then when your units do spawn they have upgrades

  • @soldier22881
    @soldier22881 23 години тому

    beautiful green zerg, i like. also not a good idea destroying your own units =/

  • @zhadoomzx
    @zhadoomzx 20 годин тому

    Gotta love it when even Harstem calls the oracle "the idot dude" 😂

  • @PcTriumph
    @PcTriumph День тому

    How very Age of Mythology build of you!

  • @2019inuyasha
    @2019inuyasha 13 годин тому

    If you muta and drop drones and lings they get salty

  • @PROfaniteez
    @PROfaniteez День тому

    Wow crazy fantastic game, well done.

  • @radiobrain94
    @radiobrain94 День тому

    Finally some content that represents how I actually play

  • @westkoastdogg6680
    @westkoastdogg6680 День тому

    I used to always try shit like this in bronze league lol

  • @Cooscoo
    @Cooscoo День тому

    Toss thinking if zerg build drones he winning :)

  • @rodrigoff7456
    @rodrigoff7456 День тому

    What a banger! You had me on the edge of my seat all game!

  • @oliverhughes610
    @oliverhughes610 17 годин тому

    This is why 10 min no rush is the goat

  • @davidstud3952
    @davidstud3952 День тому

    what a nailbiter, great game!

  • @elevation1560
    @elevation1560 День тому

    "Oh he's going for disruptors, that's never a good call" XD

  • @LilaB3an
    @LilaB3an День тому

    where does it tell you the # of drones you have? how do you always know exactly how many?

    • @enriquegarciacota3914
      @enriquegarciacota3914 День тому +2

      You hover the mouse over the supply number on the top right corner. Horrifyingly bad interface, it took me years to let it.

  • @tsundude4320
    @tsundude4320 20 годин тому

    Definitely under droned

  • @marcinkrocki8114
    @marcinkrocki8114 День тому

    my favourite series

  • @Bradman1978
    @Bradman1978 День тому

    I have a weird thought. I saw some tournament matches TvZ against Serial. Both players started with cloak banshees and failed. I was thinking what would happen if Interference Matrix Ravens instead. They are the same price, and the Ravens have more health and starting armor, and the queens should be able to IM them.
    Should be able to keep them alive easier, and later they should have with creep and burrowed units.

    • @tambaz2276
      @tambaz2276 День тому

      would just die to an attack, banshees have defensive value ravens don't have

    • @mothrahlurker788
      @mothrahlurker788 17 годин тому +1

      No, that's just worse. The #1 reason to open with banshees is that they provide safety vs roach allins and later give you map vision and runby safety. Ravens don't provide any of that. They are also just worse as an opening unit as they don't force spores, which are quite costly for zerg in the earlygame.

  • @drdorenton1060
    @drdorenton1060 День тому

    feel like this challenge isn't really anything special as zerg lol, obviously it's a handicap, but making queens makes the challenge fairly moot

    • @mothrahlurker788
      @mothrahlurker788 День тому +2

      No, it's a pretty significant handicap that should not win most of the time.

    • @DomenG33K
      @DomenG33K 17 годин тому

      If you are very low elo "under plat" it isn't that bad. But this strat should lose 90% of the time in higher elo...

  • @simongranier6715
    @simongranier6715 День тому

    Sick game

  • @deathcraft2299
    @deathcraft2299 День тому

    engagement

  • @GrantRGarner
    @GrantRGarner 22 години тому

    Ultras

  • @charlie3106
    @charlie3106 День тому

    0.o

  • @ethanaleman
    @ethanaleman 21 годину тому

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @TerrariaiOSTAIOS
    @TerrariaiOSTAIOS День тому

    gg

  • @inmundo6927
    @inmundo6927 День тому +1

    QUEENS are not DRONES!! (classic zerg B.S.)

  • @martinprince8253
    @martinprince8253 День тому +1

    Firster comment.
    I’m trying out this new strategy
    Feedback welcome

  • @flovnes
    @flovnes День тому

    toss had an observer until the end tho??

  • @sdsdfdu4437
    @sdsdfdu4437 14 годин тому

    Challenge failed, you built queens before reaching 100 drones

  • @Moeron86
    @Moeron86 День тому

    This has to be against ai? How does anyone with even half a brain see zero army units and not just crush the opponent?😮

    • @mothrahlurker788
      @mothrahlurker788 День тому +2

      You clearly play at a much lower level and don't understand current PvZ meta if you think that this was so surprising.

    • @Mysteryshopperr
      @Mysteryshopperr День тому +3

      ⁠@@mothrahlurker788any decent protoss would do some kind of stalkers early aggression poke or adepts glaives timing, and if they see opponent have no units from the early poking , they will def go for the ending. they wouldnt sit around and let zerg fully saturated 4 base. Moeron is not wrong.

    • @RagnarokCo
      @RagnarokCo День тому

      Maybe it was a gentlemen's agreement. He saw heavy eco, and decided to match his heavy eco.

    • @Moeron86
      @Moeron86 День тому

      @mothrahlurker788 i am low level. And that's why I'm surprised. If I ever tried that as zerg on the ladder I'd be defeated by minute 3

    • @Moeron86
      @Moeron86 День тому

      @@Mysteryshopperr yep. Exactly. I'm sorry you will likely be attacked for having common sense agreeing with me lol

  • @Kaefer1973
    @Kaefer1973 День тому

    100 workers without units is not possible for Zerg, since they need Overlords to increase supply, this makes no sense.

    • @Amoeby
      @Amoeby День тому +5

      Uhm, actually ☝️🤓

    • @Avermra
      @Avermra День тому +1

      @@Amoeby AcTuAlLy

    • @mithcio
      @mithcio День тому +2

      Am I right that Zerg should be able to get to 400 drones without a single overlord? Hatcheries only till 200 and than Clem's APM to get 200 spores morphing, 200 drones and a huge spore cancel? I'm too lazy to check.
      Nevermind, disregard my comment, let's rephrase:
      ACTUALLY

    • @Amoeby
      @Amoeby День тому

      @@Avermra akshualie

    • @strammerdetlef
      @strammerdetlef День тому +1

      @@mithcio soundsd like a nice challenge lol

  • @REALAMERICANMAN531
    @REALAMERICANMAN531 День тому

    Ive been playing zerg like this for 20 years

  • @berserkingsoul9767
    @berserkingsoul9767 17 годин тому

    I do this all the time in diamond league , you'd be surprised how often it works