R.E.M. talk Everybody hurts, resisting Donald Trump and getting back together
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2017
- Michael Stipe and Mike Mills of R.E.M. talk to Channel 4 News about what inspired their biggest singles, the reason why they are rising and resisting against Trump and whether they'll be getting back together to create new music.
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The both communicate so well and articulate themselves intelligently.
They really do. The two Mikes have always seemed to be warm, wonderful people. Peter, eh, not so much.
Rush Austin How do you think Bill Berry seemed? I like all 4 of them.
@C Cato it was stupid the first time, second time you just seem even more stupid.
@@RushAustin I agree with you about Michael and Mike I think Peter seems Riley Nice just more of a straight Talker Just out of interest how do you think Bill Seems? I think he seems like a Really nice a laid back person
I CAN'T STAND this interviewer. Why do people agree to an interview with him? I don't get it.
Because the interviewer is more famous than the band?
Because he's brown. If you don't grant the interview, you're racist.
The interviewer is always awefull
@@robertciscoe9318 you're funny
He’s an Oxford graduate. So despite his interviewing skills, I suppose he’s meant to be smart. If you’re referring to the Tarantino and Robert Downey Jr. interviews, then yes those did not go well! Especially the latter one where RDJ walked out.
They do have something to be very proud of, made such a huge mark. And had an amazing ride.
Why has everyone in the comments got their knickers in a twist? Why can't they talk politics? they are citizens who have every right to talk politics same as the rest of us! If you don't want to listen to their opinions then don't watch the video, it's in the title!
TRUEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
@ figuring it out,
I agree 100%. Something tells me though that you wouldn't be saying that if it was James Woods or Chuck Norris talking.
EXACTLY! Most of their music was about politics and people lose their mind when they speak about it.
Of course, you agree so you are so open-minded. If their politics were different you would be bitching nonstop. Boring already.
If you are surprised these guys are into politics, then I guess you should have read their lyrics from year one. They have always been into it.
I love you Michael, I love you & what you do! 💘
All he "does" now is act the part of a bitter old man.
Song saved my life. So glad it came to me.
Mike and Michael seem to be very humble and loyal to each other, I bet they have very good friendship chemistry based on that foundation, Michael looks like he is getting agitated of krishnan also ha
How dare rock stars have opinions about politics. Everybody knows crappy reality stars are the only celebrities allowed to have political opinions.
It's fine when they have opinions. It's obnoxious when they're paraded around by the left. These guys are very clear that they have opinions and that they're not supposed to be taken anymore seriously than you or I.
Sort of like Ted Nugent and Kid Rock are paraded around by the right? ;)
At a much, much smaller scale, sure. When's the last time you heard Kid Rock being asked to do anything by a politician? Think back to when Hilary thought she had a shot. How many celebrities came out to support her on all sorts of media? This whataboutism doesn't really work in your favor, especially when things are so clearly lopsided toward the left in this celebrity worship bullshit.
I stay outside of political tribalism, so I don't have a dog in the fight. That said, there is will be "bias" one way or another in certain mediums or social circles.
As I say, the reason you don't see many conservative in the arts is the same reason you don't see many liberal truck drivers or oil rig workers. Studies increasingly indicate people tend toward a "liberal" or "conservative" thought process by nature -- in other words, differences in brain function.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with either -- we need both, and ideally, they compliment one another. We need liberal minds to drive things forward, and conservative minds to keep them stable.
But, sadly, contemporary society has politicized this, and split us into political tribes.
Those are my thoughts.
"That said, there is will be "bias" one way or another in certain mediums or social circles."LOL. Yes, and the "bias" lib media prevents or twists what the right says or does. No matter what they do/say, the media labels it racist, homophobic, misogynistic etc, even when it clearly isn't. It's just a quick and easy way for the libs to silence those who think or act differently than themselves. But please don't think it's "one way or another" with both sides.
When I was younger - I didn't really understand REM.......Now I do......and I love them. Thank you REM
Same here, I never got them when I was a kid & I’m ashamed to say they were over my head back then lol, but I realize now they are on a whole other level of intelligence & cool & other then the beautiful melodic hits that are continuously played on radio, l forgot how much they actually truly rock! But again, they rock with intelligence, very please to finally have discovered R.E.M.
Michael is much more handsome with the closely-cut beard.
Beardist
Gay? Because he is flaming.
the holy trinity of lyricists dylan, morrissy, stipe
idrathernot I would ascribe to a monotheistic non trinitarian view in this regard and just place Mozza on his own.
I would not place stipe in the same group lol. Have you read his lyrics, theyre stupid.
Except for some ballads :)
You know, I really dont care about their politics, in fact I am very happy they have a different opinion and view as I do. Those differences allowed me to enjoy so much good music. That those differences, influenced. I appreciate our differences.
I love you Michael, I love you & what you do! 💘
"Drive" is my favorite R.E.M. song.
The both communicate so well and articulate themselves intelligently.
Rise and Resist?
Hmmm, sounds a lot like Refuse Resist.
How original.
I love iT how annoyed Michael stipe is with the interviewer
Michael had my vote since he appeared many years ago. Trump is the most waste of time I've ever seen in politics
Michael Stipe is a glowing example of what will bring down America. Privileged, yet owned. Incessant bitching..
@@buckhart8500 Absolutely and I'm an R.E.M. Fan
@@buckhart8500Privileged yet owned? Spoken like a true Maga moron. Privileged? Well he's a superstar. Owned? He's vehemently opposed to the pathologicaly lying bloated orange grifter. He's not owned. He's ENGAGED. BIDEN 2024. Vote blue.
I love REM. Please get back together. Your fans and there are many miss you.
All 208 of them?
Everybody's butt hurt, all times...
Especially Michael's.
These guys are ridiculous
@@ufarkingicehole If Rem are ridiculous to you, why are you whaching this video?! Rem fans don't care about what you think of this band.😊
@@patriziabaschiera9004 I love to read the insane responses from insane REM fans 3😟😭😭
Patrizia Baschiera why is none of your business and you can’t deny that they are never happy
I feel like being friends with Michael would be quite taxing.
Sam Love 😂 Ya great music but I wouldn’t bother.
Perhaps, but you could have some great conversations about music, politics and I’m sure many other things. He seems like a very bright, well spoken person.
I bet he frequently sends back soup in restaurants.
Sam Love taxing, maybe, and totally worth it.
@Richard Peck its hilarious that marches and protests have been reduced to looking :"hip" and not getting results
was interesting to hear about what's happening in the world today. I think traveling around the world can give you a world view of humanity and where we are all at with it. it's important to share these insights to increase awarness of problems so we can get our heads together and see what can be done about it. love you loads keep up the good work but please don't suffer when the problems are bigger than you as it is impossible to take personal responsibility for them. Big kiss on your forhead X Isa
"Drive" is my favorite R.E.M. song.
Anyone that is surprised by ANYTHING in this interview OBVIOUSLY never bought an REM album back in the day. They ALWAYS voiced their political opinion in their music.
Exactly!!!
Was a great band, they lost me when they went to The left
please make some new music, its a shame your talent is not being displayed your sound is hugely missed. Tom Mc Sweeney Dublin Ireland
it's important to know when to stop.
I've loved these guys since 1985. Never agreed with them once, but I love them still.
Michael's sound intelligent and so funny. I just love him.
Love Rem, their music is amazing.. that said, sadly their politics is terrifying!
Why do I despise the reporter?
Quick correction. Brexit was not a minority vote. Only a 3.8% difference but was done by popular vote and there was a clear majority even from early on in counting.
Considering it demonstrated an utter lack of comprehension what it would trigger, with the amount of people fooled by the likes of Farage and other populists to vote for Leave, all it demonstrates is that the UK too can compete in sheer stupidity with anyone.
@@thebrainsurgeonotto6224 totally ignorant comment
It got a no vote in scotland
There is something about Michael's eyes that reminds me of the eyes of Bill Murray.
Thats right keep the status quo... easy to do when you live a thousand miles away in millionaires mansions... god how disapointed I am in you Mr Stipe and co.....
Well $80Million can rather isolate an ego and delude your believing that your opinion matters more than most, or at the very least, influences. It only influences the weak. Js
@@slydale agree, and as well he's always been a big egotist from jump street
Mike Mills skipped middle age. He looked like a 12 year old back in the 80's and 90's and now he looks like an old man.
I met a reliable source who lives in Athens, GA and she said that he'll come into a club with a young girl on each arm (probably prostitutes) that are young enough to be his granddaughters. Shows you what fame will get you that and becoming the bubble boy.
Good questions.
Great band....
I'm glad to see Michael out and about again.
Meus amores amo vcs❤️
As I said in another interview of his. I don't necessarily agree with his views but I can respect that he comes across intelligent and as if he thought out his statements and I can respect that.
Mike is spot on about the last three songs being the strongest part of the album (same goes for New Adventures...) and about Murmur still being their best work.
Always loved their music despite their lefty politics. As a libertarian, I welcome all forms of discourse - even from people I disagree with such as folks like REM.
Agree completely.
I saw REM in Serbia, they start the anti American rant and people were quiet. He voted for Clinton, the president that bombed Serbia, Clinton sided with NATO and bombed a city full of civilians. Then has the audacity to offer an apology for a president that he voted for. Michael Stipe doesn't like any politics that he can't dictate. Way before Trump,way before Obama. He protest for the sake of looking involved. Great band but I personally don't pay to hear the people talk bullshit politics. He hates any administration that he doesn't agree with. Struggling, these two have more money than the city they live in and the are pretentious pricks.
I never understood why these guys supported Clinton since I know what has happened to Serbia while he was in office. My parents are from a town in Republika Srpska and no one there thinks fondly of the US because of what they did to Serbia.
I have no idea why it’s such a crime to talk about politics no matter who you are. It’s distinctly a white American thing that politics is not be discussed, which is like saying food is not to be eaten. If you are a citizen, you ought to talk to your fellow citizens about what’s going on. They just so happen to have a way to talk to a lot of people at once.
Politics is the entertainment branch of government.
Citizen = Slave
www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/grandjuryrules.htm
Nothing wrong with talking about it but demagoguery is offensive so don't be surprised when is rubs people the wrong way.
They can talk about politics all they want I just don't want to hear it. As far as I'm concerned the money they got out of my pocket is for them to shut up and play music and make me feel good nothing more than that is relevant from them to me.
@@VanHellsing12 Paying an artist doesn't give you control over them, it relinquishes control. You put your trust in an artist that they will provide something substantial that warrants your patronage. If R.E.M. speaking their minds off stage makes you want to no longer contribute to their art, they don't really need you at this point. A band this good and convicted never did.
I feel like the interviewer is struggling to come up with interesting questions...Looks like he doesn’t have any clue what the band REM is all about prior to this interview..
I adore them, looking forward to anything from them. Thank god
In media? Haha I love Michael
good interview. I love how honest they both are. Everybody hurts is incredibly sentimental, but that's what makes it great( kinda of like It's A Wonderful Life, or the standard Somewhere Over the Rainbow). I agree with Micheal about New Adventures in High-Fi. That's is my favorite as well. God bless R.E.M.
Wow Stipes eyes are dead...
Brilliant interview,.
The media is complicit ... you said it, brother!
I do have to agree with them about one thing: It's sad that Ignoreland is still relevant today. What's even worse is the things they are rallying against then have only gotten worse.
oh god this interviewer, why has he not been fired
precinct and long overdue observation. Thank you.
It makes me sad to see them aging. It reminds me I've aged as well.
Thank you for writing this song it’s saved me several times
This song destroyed two lives in Kansas City
Is that Martin Bashir?
This song always reminds me of Columbine. At the end of the news night, they signed off by playing a montage of images and video from that day set to this song.
I have a hard time hearing it without thinking about that even nearly 20 years later.
Why aren't these 2 speaking of particulars and not just hating on the current President.
I think Losing My Religion would be a better song, since I feel like, since Trump was elected, we all feel like we're losing our religion.
Awesome group.Awesome thoughts speaking the truth
They were giving their opinions. If you agree with an opinion, that does not elevate it to "truth".
"What's the forward clock called?" "Clockwise." Love my boys.
These guys were so great…before they started mailing it in, and brought Michael’s politics into everything
Listen to Ignoreland and tell me his politics weren't in his music for decades. You're ridiculous.
@@CaptainJimp not ridiculous- i think they started mailing it in right after automatic-in fact, my opinion is that the apex was document-and, yes politics was starting to creep in, but not like it did in the 90's....their stuff until document is awesome, but after the large contract (after leaving irs) really closed the door on them for me....before you come after me, be sure youre on solid ground.....have been a fan of these guys quite a long time....
Drive
Is the interviewer Martin Bashir?
Might as well be , but no Krishnan guru murthi is his name or something
That’s what I thought, too.
Dude this blew my mind. I've been seeing this dude for years and was convinced he was Martin Bashir!!!!
My top 5 REM albums (for what its worth)
01. Monster
02. New Adventures in Hi-Fi
03. Up
04. Green
05. Automatic for the people
Nicky Styles I like the list. I’m
Automatic
Hi-Fi
Out of Time
Monster
Document
@@user-yq8sx2dh4k I like their was older stuff I think after monster they peaked.
1. Out of time
2. Monster
3. Automatic for the people
4. Document
5. Murmur
Blase choices I'd expect from a newb to REM
Chronic Town
Fables
Automatic
Green
Hi fi
Monster
It's important to remember that (for the time being) the pace of progress in the Western world has been temporarily slowed and occasionally retarded by numerous movements that seek to promote exclusivity and prejudice. There have been many struggles across Europe and the UK which are similar in quality and property. One step forward, two steps back, is slightly better than three steps back (one step back.)
God the irony of that censorship beep. Incredible.
They are intelligent and intriguing individuals I believe. I always have loved REM as well. I believe though that when it comes down to the White House it is irrelevant. The system is fixed and has been for 242 years now.
How on Earth would it be that all but one of the President's are related to each other if the system isn't fixed? The odds are simply way to out there for this to be a coincidence.
"He won't even finish this term." More denial.
I am French. It has taken me some time to understand the reasons of Trump's success. Despite the guy being savage (and I believe unlawful, but the impeachment is here to decide on it) there is a big trend, and not only in the US with SJW and excess thereof. But the democrats are not better, we must not take the world too naively.
That being said I love REM I respecy their opinions and agree because these are reasonable opinions respectfully expressed I have nothing against any sexual orientation. SJWs, feminists and so on must grow in their mind and really be more reasonable as well the must speak up, say hi, yes I am homosexual if they want, no problem, but not say that every word we say is oppressing.
great music! the rest? not so much
Losing your Salt?
Now, been a fan of their IRS material, n Green, and Time... it felt like they were getting better and better. Although ATFP sounded like a different REM, for sure that album was ICONIC, but it was somewhat like...the Cure does REM or vice versa...for the time of its release, it was perfect and deep. For the long haul however. Green, Document, Pageant and even Fables has had more listenability, "classic", root of the band, even grunge factor. You can respect their maturity to "swim fwd like a shark" being true to themselves, but for AFTP to live up to its title " FOR the People"....maybe they could had swapped those deleted tracks for the handful of other tracks...IDK...They lost something by the time Monster was released, maybe those particular songs could had saved album sells...maybe. Unless they were included on other future albums, which by time HiFi was released....it no longer mattered. Interest was lost. Hearing they had other unreleased material in that timeframe makes you wonder...just who and what "people" was "Automatic" really for? Loved the album, but started missing that late 80's REM sound which if applied to the 90s, could had left a more delible mark. Unless, those were the very songs released on Monster. One fan's humble opinion.
Sorry guys you’re wrong about trump
Amazing individuals. Amazing band.
Yes, they used to make good music. Back in the 90s.
And '80s. And then they retired, so yeah.
Has beens trying to push politics on people who could care less. Frankly they seem kind of pathetic to me now
Interviewer is lost I've seen him upset and completely lose other guests just walk off
forgetting the word for forwards-clock
"The top has never been this low." Sad but very true.
Really, you really think things are bad? You're delusional. Record low unemployment for christ's sake
Yep. When a major network stoops to doing REM interviews, truly the "top has never been so low".
@@crk140 Fred is probably upset that ISIS has been destroyed.
Richard Keyser Numbers can be deceptive. The so called “new jobs” are part time , low end, service sector positions. They are technically jobs, but not a living wage, Not all jobs are equal.
@@iggypopisgod9 that was2014, under Obama. Wages are actually moving up for the first time since2001.
Actors and bands are entertainment. That's what draws your fans, your political views we don't want to hear unless we seek you out one to one. Your job is entertaining. Ron White lost me when he started making political statements, I came for comedy and not politics.
I agree with much of their frustration and anger but they are out of touch. The working class does not like the far progressive left and the Democrats have really married that faction of the Party. Its unfortunate but I think Trump can get reelected based on most people I talk to liberal and conservative
I agree. Millionaire musicians and actors don't know what the average person who has to put food on the table and work constantly to just maintain really thinks and cares about.
Lol. You don't even have a "far progressive left" in the states, at least none that mattered in the political arena.
@@captainvideo1981And Trump does cos he's lived it poor.
I love rich people
I love REM’s music. I disagree with their political views. Assuming their beliefs are genuine, I respect their right to express them, just as I respect the rights of those whose views are considered politically incorrect or unpopular.
REM is a pop band so it stands to reason that they are expected to promulgate the pop narrative; lest they be de-platformed, blacklisted, and silenced like other celebrities who dared to question the establishment’s official narrative. It’s extremely risky to oppose the ruling class… particularly for entertainers. How many jester’s in history have had their head’s removed for offending the king?
Can you imagine what would have happened to REM had they publicly opposed the Democrat Party? REM ain’t stupid; they know their place in the pecking order.
...toward the very end, Mike Mills gets in a few words.....
Hello R.E.M 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These two fellows political opinions make about as much sense at REM lyrics.
Love their music...not a fan of their politics.
Me too, fan of their music...not so much of their politics.
I love REM's Music. I hate their whining though...year after year...after year...And oh yeah, they are Capitalists!
Their money stores they don't have to work hard for anymore makes them forget that they indeed are capitalists
If you don't like the way America is run....MOVE
There are sore losers and famous sore losers.
I loved their music until now, when I discovered how they distrust ( and probably hate) President Trump.
Arvo Part if that made you dislike their music, then you never liked their music at all.
Yeah because a good chief executive is one that is controlled by a racist, Marxist, apartheid, warfarist foreign government:
web.archive.org/web/20190618151103/fitzinfo.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/trump-controlled-by-mossad/
Bye bye Trump
I miss his beard
Get Micheal fired up about politics then ask him a musical question, that look at the reporter 🤣
Not sharing your name makes it easy to throw down
Peener?
Everybody's Trumped... chumps... "waaahhh!"... um... is he talking about Andy Capp, or Korn? ... does he think Lenny Bruce a Brit??? ... Lester Bangs (his sister?) ... did he snort and swallow his nose ring?... WHATWHATWHAT???
Chronic Town
brace for trump 2020 :)
Can we stop bracing yet???? 😂😂😂😂😂
One of the best bands ever love their songs and agree with most of their views !!...Keep rockin you guys
Yes. This. We simply must rise and resist. It’s become a life and death struggle, particularly for historically marginalized social groups. The time is now.
I like their music, give 2 shits about their politics.
Their music is genius! But their politics are not so good ;)
2:08 WTF???????????
He does that when he sings sometimes.
elbay2
he's one of the few front men who actively studied stagecraft
Both the interviewer & Stipe - LOL! Yeah it’s like the cameraman thought, “Oh, my gosh! He’s picking his nose! Get that camera OFF the interviewer NOW!”
So he quickly switches camera over to the two Mikes and old Stipe is going at it with his nose, too! Only worse!
Bahahahaha!
I love REM I’m from Athens Ga during that time … but right now the world needs Trump more then we need REM…
These guys should step up in their hometown and represent the Athens Musicians who play in Athens but don't get paid...
Man, I love Stipe's dry wit -- "I mean, I watched him bound up and down stairs." I like his politics even more.
doesn't stipe seem kinda gay? i am sure he's not that would suck!
Stipe is openly bisexual -- not that it matters.
Great interview.
Goddammit, never coming back. that sucks!
His recall of the 80’s is very different than mine…