PLD is usually my go-to, especially since the rework. I find the flexibility of HS is very useful for maintaining GCD uptime when doing mechanics, which comes up a lot in ultimates. Just off the top of my head I can think of 3 times when out of melee range I use a DMHS just in the first 2 phases of TOP (looper tether, panto, MF tethers). The extra party mitigation from PLD is also amazing for ultimate, since the final phase of most ultimate ends up being a heal check of how good your mit plan is, and between veil and passage you can mit so much to help your healers here. For ultimate, I feel like anyone doing an on patch ultimate should be good enough at their job to clear the DPS check (hell my team cleared TOP on patch with PLD and RDM and were even having to hold DPS on some phases depending on crits, and with the balance now being closer than it was in 6.3 I doubt FRU will have as tight of DPS checks as on release TOP) so the biggest question for me is always utility, in which PLD is second to none (except for invulns, we suck there) Realistically it's going to come down to the fight design of FRU, how is the uptime structured, how are the busters spaced, how much of a heal check is it, how bad is the DPS check.
You forgot to mention that PLD's mits suffer a bit from downtime, as the oath gauge doesn't fill if you're not landing autos. Maybe minor, but still could make a difference in niche scenarios
Paladin may have AA downtime for gauge but high uptime on burst window FoF Confiteor chain if distance is needed. I have 3-4 openers depending on fight/phase for it for max output.
I would describe this as preliminary. Best in Slot weapons require at least 7 weeks to prepare so anyone who's been prepping for Ultimate will only have 2 weapons, and Ultimates tend to have very specific requirements not seen in Savage. How Tanks interact with heal checks is also very important, their Invulns play a massive part in prog and each invul has their major upsides and downsides.
DRK is 1st dps amongst tanks, by far, in optimized settings he's 1k above gnb I think the best prog comp is pld/gnb (since FRU will probably have a lot of magical raid damage), you can swap gnb for drk for more dps, also for the last phase, drk will probably be more comfortable (Dark Mind + less busy than gnb)
11:10. I completely disagree with shake being bad for DoTs. Shake is a heal, a shield, and a HoT. Meaning you can wait for the damage to go out, use shake to heal everyone a bit, the shield will then eat the next few tics of the DoT, and the HoT works directly against mitigating the DoT.
I dont think so, shake is indeed a shield aka more hp and a regen, but if that shield is used at incorrect timing it will be dispelled or reduced, hence party can still die due to lack of shield. The most common example is in dsr where thordan casts like 2 turns of dots before ultimate end.
@@ngyenthanh3010 then use it at the correct time? what are we talking about here? if you use something at a bad time then yes, its going to not be as efficent than if you used it properly. WAR is also a great spreadlo target since we also have both rampart and thrill increasing our healing intake.
@@ngyenthanh3010 the 2 waves of dots is literally the healer's job because it is down time. no other player should be using their tools there. a really bad example if you ask me
Don't do my boy Dark Knight dirt like that bro 😭 Good video as always! I'm really glad I found your channel way back in Abyssos, I improved a lot faster thanks to them 🙏 keep it up man!
the only tank I currently have high level is Warrior. I would love to level Dark Knight and Paladin bc I love their drips but I'm a tank anxiety player. I usually only play it on stages that I'm veeery comfortable with bc I'm afraid of letting people down
If they leave the tank balance as it is and If dmg is even a slight issue the best tank gonna be DRK without a doubt, about the physical mit usually in ultimates the buster are so tightly balanced that they have to balance it around drk so basically i dont think they will put physical buster but yeah we may have physical raidwide tho, but you know what was in eden ahkmorns and those are made for drk and gnb party mit. If dmg isnt an issue the best is PLD having 2 party mits and having holy sheltron+intervantion for some double busters is huge. Gnb is always always great but usually its number 2 in ultimates WAR is ok since its bursty but for 1 big buster its usually the least defensive sometimes you may need a mit from healers especially if you didn't fully optimise your tank mits which sometimes happen in prog. But honestly right now you can play any 2 and do good and if dmg is an issue just take a picto in your group 😂
It's hard to say whether PLD or DRK is the best, as PLD is great for dealing with double busters and raidwides but has the longest inv cooldown, which requires PLD to put more mit resources on busters while others can just inv it. DRK, on the other hand, is optimize for magical busters, especially those back to back tank busters like in DSR P6, and DRK has the second shortest 5min invincibility cooldown with one of the theoretical longest duration(10s starting from taking first lethal damage) inv, without requiring precise timing to use. GNB is the best on dealing with busters as GNB has a strong mitigation toolkit without limitation like other tanks(DRK: only strong to magical, PLD: downtime affects mit resources and incredibly long inv cooldown, WAR: weak for single hit), but when it comes to damage and rotation, GNB is excellent in a full uptime phase but may feel weird in a downtime scenario as GNB rotation is more "fixed" and taking downtime makes you feel much worse than DRK or WAR.
respectfully, this video is not for you. furthermore, if youre a sprout, youre likely sub-70, when drk gets its best mit, tbn. in general, though, drk struggles in dungeons due to having a few tools mitting magic damage only, where most dungeon mobs hit physical, so its almost like its missing tools compared to other tanks. this is also why drk is actually really good in ultimates, because its magic mit and insane ability to spot shield/mit have the chance to shine.
@@blackRupee i know :) i’m in shadowbringers! i’m watching it because i i’m enjoying final fantasy content, not because i’m trying to figure out the best tank to play in FRU…
I'm not sure what Tank will be the best, but I can tell you what will be the worst. Dark Knight. I'm still maining it solely for love of the job, there is no real gameplay reason to pick a Dark Knight over any of the other three. Doing Savage as Dark Knight was a miserable experience this tier.
@@linkaiser8709 drk is the best ot you have the highest dmg and the 2nd lowest invuln cooldown which is the 2 most important parts for ultimates no one cares about mit cause tanks and heals have too much anyways.
Nothing pertaining to this video, but do you plan on doing your "how to high rank" GNB series? Enjoy watching you explain optimization over a fight like those other videos.
![What makes Ultimate, Savage, Extreme different? [FFXIV High End Raiding]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/g3hg9AZL4Ew/mqdefault.jpg)
![What makes Ultimate, Savage, Extreme different? [FFXIV High End Raiding]](/img/tr.png)
i tweet stupid shits here:
x.com/aylaveen
PLD is usually my go-to, especially since the rework.
I find the flexibility of HS is very useful for maintaining GCD uptime when doing mechanics, which comes up a lot in ultimates. Just off the top of my head I can think of 3 times when out of melee range I use a DMHS just in the first 2 phases of TOP (looper tether, panto, MF tethers).
The extra party mitigation from PLD is also amazing for ultimate, since the final phase of most ultimate ends up being a heal check of how good your mit plan is, and between veil and passage you can mit so much to help your healers here.
For ultimate, I feel like anyone doing an on patch ultimate should be good enough at their job to clear the DPS check (hell my team cleared TOP on patch with PLD and RDM and were even having to hold DPS on some phases depending on crits, and with the balance now being closer than it was in 6.3 I doubt FRU will have as tight of DPS checks as on release TOP) so the biggest question for me is always utility, in which PLD is second to none (except for invulns, we suck there)
Realistically it's going to come down to the fight design of FRU, how is the uptime structured, how are the busters spaced, how much of a heal check is it, how bad is the DPS check.
You forgot to mention that PLD's mits suffer a bit from downtime, as the oath gauge doesn't fill if you're not landing autos. Maybe minor, but still could make a difference in niche scenarios
Paladin may have AA downtime for gauge but high uptime on burst window FoF Confiteor chain if distance is needed. I have 3-4 openers depending on fight/phase for it for max output.
I would describe this as preliminary. Best in Slot weapons require at least 7 weeks to prepare so anyone who's been prepping for Ultimate will only have 2 weapons, and Ultimates tend to have very specific requirements not seen in Savage. How Tanks interact with heal checks is also very important, their Invulns play a massive part in prog and each invul has their major upsides and downsides.
you can easily obtain BIS weapon by buying loot runs & static split runs
What gunblade is at 8:36 ? Looks amazing! Nice content! Keep up the good work!
Last Eden raid savage Weapons (E12S - Eden promise, Eternity)
@ thank you very much!
DRK is 1st dps amongst tanks, by far, in optimized settings he's 1k above gnb
I think the best prog comp is pld/gnb (since FRU will probably have a lot of magical raid damage), you can swap gnb for drk for more dps, also for the last phase, drk will probably be more comfortable (Dark Mind + less busy than gnb)
11:10. I completely disagree with shake being bad for DoTs. Shake is a heal, a shield, and a HoT. Meaning you can wait for the damage to go out, use shake to heal everyone a bit, the shield will then eat the next few tics of the DoT, and the HoT works directly against mitigating the DoT.
I dont think so, shake is indeed a shield aka more hp and a regen, but if that shield is used at incorrect timing it will be dispelled or reduced, hence party can still die due to lack of shield. The most common example is in dsr where thordan casts like 2 turns of dots before ultimate end.
@@ngyenthanh3010 then use it at the correct time? what are we talking about here? if you use something at a bad time then yes, its going to not be as efficent than if you used it properly. WAR is also a great spreadlo target since we also have both rampart and thrill increasing our healing intake.
@@ngyenthanh3010 the 2 waves of dots is literally the healer's job because it is down time. no other player should be using their tools there. a really bad example if you ask me
Don't do my boy Dark Knight dirt like that bro 😭 Good video as always! I'm really glad I found your channel way back in Abyssos, I improved a lot faster thanks to them 🙏 keep it up man!
honestly drk is not that bad now xD thanks for the kind words
The answer is DRK for PF and PLD for statics.
the only tank I currently have high level is Warrior. I would love to level Dark Knight and Paladin bc I love their drips but I'm a tank anxiety player. I usually only play it on stages that I'm veeery comfortable with bc I'm afraid of letting people down
Im gonna either use DRK or PAL depending if I need a shorter invuln or not
If they leave the tank balance as it is and If dmg is even a slight issue the best tank gonna be DRK without a doubt, about the physical mit usually in ultimates the buster are so tightly balanced that they have to balance it around drk so basically i dont think they will put physical buster but yeah we may have physical raidwide tho, but you know what was in eden ahkmorns and those are made for drk and gnb party mit.
If dmg isnt an issue the best is PLD having 2 party mits and having holy sheltron+intervantion for some double busters is huge.
Gnb is always always great but usually its number 2 in ultimates
WAR is ok since its bursty but for 1 big buster its usually the least defensive sometimes you may need a mit from healers especially if you didn't fully optimise your tank mits which sometimes happen in prog.
But honestly right now you can play any 2 and do good and if dmg is an issue just take a picto in your group 😂
It's hard to say whether PLD or DRK is the best, as PLD is great for dealing with double busters and raidwides but has the longest inv cooldown, which requires PLD to put more mit resources on busters while others can just inv it. DRK, on the other hand, is optimize for magical busters, especially those back to back tank busters like in DSR P6, and DRK has the second shortest 5min invincibility cooldown with one of the theoretical longest duration(10s starting from taking first lethal damage) inv, without requiring precise timing to use.
GNB is the best on dealing with busters as GNB has a strong mitigation toolkit without limitation like other tanks(DRK: only strong to magical, PLD: downtime affects mit resources and incredibly long inv cooldown, WAR: weak for single hit), but when it comes to damage and rotation, GNB is excellent in a full uptime phase but may feel weird in a downtime scenario as GNB rotation is more "fixed" and taking downtime makes you feel much worse than DRK or WAR.
Yes.
as an astro sprout who started FF last month, definitely NOT DARK KNIGHT they make me do gcd healing 😭
i'm sorry you had to meet them
respectfully, this video is not for you. furthermore, if youre a sprout, youre likely sub-70, when drk gets its best mit, tbn. in general, though, drk struggles in dungeons due to having a few tools mitting magic damage only, where most dungeon mobs hit physical, so its almost like its missing tools compared to other tanks. this is also why drk is actually really good in ultimates, because its magic mit and insane ability to spot shield/mit have the chance to shine.
@@blackRupee i know :) i’m in shadowbringers! i’m watching it because i i’m enjoying final fantasy content, not because i’m trying to figure out the best tank to play in FRU…
@@blackRupee i just made a haha funny comment since they’re harder to heal 😭
I'm not sure what Tank will be the best, but I can tell you what will be the worst. Dark Knight. I'm still maining it solely for love of the job, there is no real gameplay reason to pick a Dark Knight over any of the other three. Doing Savage as Dark Knight was a miserable experience this tier.
@@linkaiser8709 drk is the best ot you have the highest dmg and the 2nd lowest invuln cooldown which is the 2 most important parts for ultimates no one cares about mit cause tanks and heals have too much anyways.
@@senrasXIV You realize this is a main tank talk, right? '
@@linkaiser8709 are you dumb? xD
As a dps looking to transition to the tanking role. Which tank would you recommend? I really like warrior and gnb but can’t pick in between the two.
@@swashmcbucklin3351 what dps specifically?
@@swashmcbucklin3351 play both
the answer is always GUNMODE
Nothing pertaining to this video, but do you plan on doing your "how to high rank" GNB series? Enjoy watching you explain optimization over a fight like those other videos.
I do plan on it but not sure since the next ultimate is coming soon. And schedule has been tight so I haven't been able to play as much
DRK PLD
Dark Knight sucks?
Bro is living in pre-7.05
@@takatakarin27 bro only watch 30s and commented
war goated in ultimate busters cant deny that
PLD has no business being in ults. Its invuln is trash & throws off mit plans.
You were saying?
imagine