Sig P365 XL Major Trigger Malfunction.
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Going over the Major Malfunction I had with a Sig P365xl. I go over all the details of this issue. If you have ever experienced this issue please let me know in the comments.
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Never had anything remotely close to that problem with my XL but glad to know what to watch for. Thx!
Same
SigSauer calls it the flinch feature. It helps people who tend to flinch when pulling the trigger.
All jokes aside I'll keep my Glock 🤣
@@joeybaby2505 this is why I’m a hammer fire guy
Leave it to Sig to call a malfunction a “feature”.
@@phillipwombacher9635 What do you tend to recommend? Things like this make me doubt my striker fire. I keep looking at the PX4 compact carry but I wonder if they’ll make a gen 2 soon.
Yeah Dumb Ass Cops & Federal Agencies Shooting Themselves
“Hey my guns going off unexpectedly”
SIG: It’s fine you just need break it in
😂What🤷♂️
"And good luck surviving until it breaks in"
🤣🤣🤣
ur finger is pulling the trigger...what's so fucking "unexepected?
Right, its not a P-320!?
@@talinra3160 It should go off as soon as the trigger gets past the break, not after shaking it while holding the trigger... can't believe that needs to be explained, but whatever.
I had this same exact issue with a p365xl I bought in mid 2022. The same exact thing...slap the gun while holding the trigger and it would fire....I could also replicate dry firing. Sig fixed it under warranty by replacing the trigger and the trigger spring free of charge. I sent them video of the issue. I wasn't expecting the fix to work but it did and the trigger breaks every time now.
Was at the range today and experienced the same issue with a rental. I just chalked it up to possibly needing a good cleaning. Sounds like it might be a bigger issue.
Just bought a 365x and I'm having the same problem. Disappointing.
@@peg7929 that's terrible. I'm sorry to hear that. You just never know. I've been researching and testing at the ranges for a couple months now. I think I'm probably leaning toward the Shield now. I'm going to try to find and test the P10C and TP9 Elite SC first before I make a final decision.
A “good cleaning?” So you’re new to guns then, right???? Modern Sig guns need to be tossed in a shredder.
@@peg7929 if you are being honest, you need to call that dam range asap before somebody kills themselves with that gun fam
@@TheHonestTruth with this problem it only fires when the trigger is pulled AND bumped/shaken. Not just when its shaken or bumped. If you're pulling the trigger you should already have it pointed in a safe direction. Not sure how this malfunction is going to kill someone at a range buddy. Lighten up on the exaggerating.
Welcome to Sig ownership! Where guns malfunction and they tell you nothing is wrong. I have had this experience with several Sigs. I lost my trust in them and stopped giving them my money.
@@DaveandDebe Are you saying Glock said "it's a break in period", or the malfunction was similar?
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@@DaveandDebe I agree glock ergonomics are terrible, but at least they go bang everytime you pull the trigger (and only when you pull the trigger) that said i also don't own any glocks, for pistols have HK, SW, CZ, and Springfield and app are perfectly reliable and easy to shoot.
@@vegeta420z6 every gun made has good and bad specimens. Most of the guns we are mentioning are reliable, Glocks are generally reliable as in CZ Smith & Wesson Etc. I'm not a big Smith & Wesson fan. But as it said everyone can have an issue it doesn't matter how much you spend or who made it there will always be problems with man-made items and obviously nature also
@@vegeta420z6 if you shoot enough Firearms you will find guns that don't go bang when you pull the trigger, believe me I get to shoot hundreds of firearms a year and I run into various issues
I have one and love it. No problems. I am shocked they told him to break it in and didn’t just replace it.
"Uhhh ya need to break it in"
Thanks, Shig. A+ customer support.
Excellent and fair vid. Great work letting us and Sig know to fix. You kept positive👍👍
Thank you
My experience with Sig customer has been fine. In the event you get a rep that you are not satisfied with call back and get another one. It sounds like the striker/striker channel maybe fouled and needs cleaning. That is an easy process, also the FCU can be removed for and inspected/cleaned by removing one pin.
Really disappointing that Sig would tell you to do a break-in... Not only the extremely dangerous malfunction, you shouldn't need to spend tons on cash on ammo to make their gun work lol
I am also a Glock fan boy but I got one of these pistols and love it, but will do some checking this weekend.
I have a P365 and an XL. Not necessarily a sig fan boy but I love them because I’ve never had a problem but yeah, I’m also a diehard Glock guy. I still carry my 19. Zev trigger plus Truglo tfx sights equals happiness
man sig tell me that i shouldn't use suppressor from different manufacturer because my gun wouldn't cycle, they said i have to use their suppressor, sig customer service is on another level
@@jdk_360 wow. Another non-fanboy found in the wild! I thought I was alone 🤣🤣 I have Glocks, S&W, Sigs, etc too. It's wild to me that people are so brand-loyal in 2022
@@robl884 I just love guns in general particularly ones that work lol. If you want something really cool, get a Steyr l9 A2. It’s bad ass. My most recent purchase.
watch to the end of the video, he walks it back to “maybe there was a miscommunication, a misunderstanding…” no facts here just irresponsible sig bashing
The same thing happened to me, only it started at about 800 rounds. I took it all the way apart and especially cleaned the firing pin which had a lot of carbon and dirt around it. I also used a wax lubricant instead of oil. It slowly retured to normal, and now has worked fine for the last 600 or so rounds I have put in it.
Ideally, you want to leave the firing pin assembly dry and lube free. That way it doesn't accumulate as much carbon and fouling.
The same thing happened to me, except my gun is brand new. Never fired.
Ran into this problem with my own sig, it is actually a problem with the springs inside the trigger module. I remember having to take all the springs apart and put them back in a couple times (plus gun lube) to get it working right. Sig should have a warranty where they will fix it for you, but you may just have to uninstall and reinstall all the springs and see if that gets it working again.
I believe it will end up being the firing pin block safety, specifically, the firing pin block Spring.
Odds are someone took striker safety out while cleaning and forced/banged it back in thereby distorting it. Watch this video by SIG GUY titled
SIG Sauer P365 COMPLETE disassembly. Part 1 of 2 at about 19:15 time stamp. ua-cam.com/video/fV4UFjgPx3Q/v-deo.html
@@ni9465 nice find !!!!
I agree SchoolOfSelfReliance.
That sounds exactly like where the problem could be… especially because when shaking it, then it fires.
I’ll bet this is not an issue with the entire 365 line. It will probably be a very small amount that will have this particular issue.
Thank goodness mine works the way it is supposed to. Be safe guys!
Problem could be a number of things, from debris in striker channel, to mass production error from worn tooling.
Not me nervously thinking about my p365 I just ordered
you'll be fine. Shit happens. I've had major reliability issues with CZ, Sig, S&W, Ruger, and FN pistols at this point. Everything from total lockup to hammer follow when racking the gun with my finger no where near the trigger. Shit happens sometimes. Of you heard about it constantly that would be a different story.
I've got one on my waste, and I'm worried about my gibblies
@@ch3cksund3ad no need to be worried. So many things need to happen for the gun to go off, it’s pretty much impossible. As long as the firing pin block is there and the trigger isn’t being pressed, you’re good
By “ordered” do you mean PPTed? Lol
I just got my p365x but I don’t think this video makes me scared he still had to pull the trigger and hold it to shake and get it to go off
Experienced something very similar with a brand new X Macro. Brand new out of the box dry firing created the exact same issue with the trigger not releasing the firing pin. 500+ rounds later and no malfunctions. IDK, makes me want to go back to carrying Glocks even though I have 3 p365 variants with no malfunctions. Plus the 320 is STILL going off by itself...
Glocks are great guns, but even Gustav's Perfection has had issues before. If we strictly limit ourselves to safety issues with Glocks, I can think of 3 off the top: In the early 90s there was a "voluntary upgrade" program covering issues with the firing pin safeties. This was sparked by reports of G19s firing unintended when the slide was released. There was also a recall within a year of that for G19s with a slide defect which could cause out of battery discharges when the gun experienced double feeds. Finally, in 2003 there was a recall for Glock 36s regarding issues with the trigger safeties.
I don't think anyone has yet managed to invent a failure-proof mechanical device. Often times, it takes a cascade of failures (both mechanical and operator) in order for something really bad to happen. But that's just a question of statistical probability. If a catastrophic failure is 1 in a million, but Americans buy 20-40 million guns a year.... yeah.
Sig has been very helpful in ny experience, but you have to be clear about what you are talking about. Luckily the only time I needed CS was when I needed to find out what sights would work with an optic on my P365 that I have had since about a year after they released the platform.
I have seen a vast majority of experiences with the 365 be positive with people like Mickey from CarryTrainer putting thousands of rounds through more than one sample, and of course plenty of others. An instructor at my range has an original P365 and has never had an issue with his.
It still sucks that you guys had to experience this, but am glad Sig was quick as soon as they realized they had a mistake on their hands.
I've been carrying a P365 since a few months after release. It has been a wonderful little pistol with zero malfunctions to date. Unfortunately I just picked up a brand new one and it is showing the same problem this one is having. I haven't even taken it to the range yet. I cannot make it dry fire without bumping the slide rearwards perhaps a sixteenth of an inch.
Does it have an out of battery safety? If so could it be out of spec., Malfunction, etc.?
I worked on a S&W sdve that had a similar issue. I used a 500 grit stone and then a 1000 grit stone to add relief (.25mm) to the striker fin that resets the action (protrudes from the bottom of the slide). It solved the issue (hung up on sharp edge/steep angle). Not sure if it's the same issue but definitely looks like an identical issue I had.
Finally a useful comment
Your life is worth more than a piece of junk - of all the savable junk out there, a sear clearance problem is a terrible time to be frugal. Torch that garbage, for your sake and ours.
@@davidkuehne476
Thanks for the commentary; was that an insult or a suggestion? You presume much about other people often?
Did you have to work on it because S&W told you it just needed to be broken in?
@@Toddler1967 No, it was a common problem on those guns. There is a couple YT videos explaining it from several years ago and how to correct it. S&W stopped manufacturing them and there no factory or aftermarket fixes. POS handgun is an understatement but it did people without expendable income own a pistol. Gun dealers sold the fk out of them to unknowing buyers. A scam imo.
Now manufacturers have influence in the Leviathan Group to do it for them thru social media. Notice how all the big guntubers review the same guns at the same time. Sometimes on the same day or week as each other?
its the grip module. the trigger sear pin is held in place horizontally by the grip module. some aftermarket grip modules may be too wide or wear down after use in the area where that sear pin in located. I have pictures if you'd like further explanation.
Im interested and would like to see if possible
Interesting. It looks like the original grip module though.
I had this issue with the factory grip module. I replaced it with a Wilson and haven't noticed it since, fingers crossed.
If you could upload a vid or picture then you might save a life. I'm very interested. Please post here if you upload.
This is the stock grip module tho
Disassemble and clean striker and striker channel?
With mine the trigger feels "mushy" after the wall, and I can feel parts moving inside the slide when I pull the trigger back before it releases the striker. The gun smith at the LGS says that's "normal" for the P365.....I don't know.
I've been using and armoring Sigs in a duty capacity since the 1990s, and have significant armoring and user experience with many other makes and models of handguns. I might be considered old school, and that I still favor classic DA/SA guns like P200 series Sigs and H&Ks. Back in the day when Sig Sauer was known as Sig Arms in the USA, we got military/police contract quality guns. This was a time when choosing Sig Arms meant that you got an extremely high-quality defensive tool that rivaled the best competitors out there. After the 2004 DHS contract for P229 .40s, the company decided to change leadership and that is when the guy who destroyed Kimber took over, Ron Cohen. Investors wanted a higher profit return, and the man who could bring that was Cohen. Like Remington, he split the production lines between contract guns, and civilian guns so that the civilian guns were made with cheaper parts, and corners were cut to further cheapen the production process. The classic P200 series guns have become shadows of their former greatness since then. New models have been problematic in their design concepts, and executions. Opening up the P320 and P365, you see many design features which appear as more of afterthoughts rather than concrete engineered designs which leave a margin of over-engineering to account for their extreme use and abuse. The P320 is after all a modification of the P250 to accommodate a striker slide assembly and fire control group, and that boxed-in the engineers working with that platform and its limitations. The use of questionable parts such as micro springs, MIM parts in areas of extreme stress, over-milling slides in high stress locations, and other productions choices have resulted in the diminished reputation of modern Sig Sauer. Do I blame the engineers?....no, they get paid to make the best of poor management demands. I see a lot of new Sig models get used and abused when I conduct trainings, and it seems like every time I see the latest and greatest Sig model, I can point out several glaring weaknesses to the design which I predict that with enough dynamic, high intensity training will fail on the guns. Often times, the operator will avoid performing the training scenario properly when I point out these potential weaknesses ahead of time....lol. Unfortunately, Sig has an overabundance of competition shooter influence running the show these days, and not enough military and police experience which keeps the manufactured product in a more equalized balance between reliability, durability, and shootability. Better to make a military/police contract gun that can be modified into a competition gun, rather than vice versa.
BINGO!
Saved me the trouble... along the risk of being labeled an "anti-Semite" : )
Exactly why my nightstand/ "no room for failure" gun is a CZ 75 PCR. It's getting harder to find products that you can trust to simply work and work every time without wondering if this time will be a time where the weapon has a weird malfunction.
Unfortunately the tradeoff seems to be that you're pigeon holed into heavier, larger guns when it comes to concealed carry and/or buying older weapons that you *know* are reliable instead of rolling the dice on new products and hoping they work...
@@lukefleming3782 Yep... been carrying an S&W 5926 for THIRTY YEARS... 44 oz. loaded : )
Thank you for the info that was great.
Thanks
It would be interesting if you made a video of this with a trigger pull scale where it says how many pounds the trigger breaks at
Doesn’t sound very interesting
As a Journeyman Toolmaker, I would have to feel that you got one of the rare ones that may have had a parts tolerance stack-up that just eventually couldn't work anymore. This is when mating parts are within tolerance, dimensionally, but one of them is on the extreme upper end, and the other is on the extreme lower end of tolerance. Sometimes this condition can cause an excessive amount of clearance (or lack of clearance) that can cause a problem. This can be even more likely if there are more than 2 mating parts involved and they are all at extremes of tolerance. I've encounter this issue with automotive assembly a number of times.
This is the first time I've heard of this problem and there have been hundreds of thousands of these guns sold, if not a million. I have about 1,000 rounds through mine now so I will be keenly aware now if something begins to feel "funny" with the trigger. Thanks for making this video.
Interesting. Thats what I was wondering with my M&P 2.0 I recently purchased. First trip to range and almost a complete a failure to feed and cycle. I couldn't believe it. When I shared the experience, some outright didn't believe a S&W would do that. I sent it back to S&W and fortunately, they fixed it. Just couldn't believe it got past their quality control through. Now with Sig, something bigger is going on though.
Top reply, right here
@@bobjaynes6821 - Hey, thanks.
Remember when Remington was the highest recalled gun manufacturer? Because they had the most guns out. . A lot of 365s have been produced. Could be a lemon
@@vikramgupta2326 that's nice. when was the last time m&p 2.0 shot by iself or when it was shaken? sig didn't do the proper testing and it shows, end of story. this isn't some feeding issue that clears up after a few dozen rounds or when the factory polishes some of the parts, this is a life threatening issue. sig has done it again and lost more credibility
I have a p320 that was doing the same thing. My question is does it have a trigger over travel stop? For me the over travel was adjusted to far out, I turned it in 1/4 turn and it's spot on now. The trigger pull was bringing the sear just to the edge and bumping it on the back or a slight shake would jar it loose. If that is the problem then IMO this is bad and should have been caught in QC. Look and see if there isn't a little tiny Allen screw on the trigger. Could be on the top of the trigger and accessable from the top with the slide off, or it could be on the trigger shoe and accessable with slide off and reachable from the top angled back towards the mag well.
Man, the continued trigger issues with Sig across their firearms.
Funny enough Sig fans will say the 365 is everything the Glock 19 wished it was 🤣
@@joeybaby2505 glocks have their issues also.
They are absolute pieces of crap.
@@652barry like what
@@652barry yeah because Glocks will have the same failure as shown in the video right?
Yes please let us know what happened! Been following this story from Instagram lol
Had the same issue with my P365x. Called the warranty center and they had me send it in. They replaced the fire control unit free of charge. I have yet to take to the range to see if the issue happens again.
To me, it sounds like there's possibly a burr on either the sear or the firing pin itself that's causing this. I'd love to know what they say when it comes back!
That’s what I thought
still absolutely no excuse for this
@@rve3716Could be a dirty firing pin channel, he didn’t appear to disassemble and inspect that. I don’t like sig but could this could be in fact a maintenance issue.
Agreed. I own two of these and also two 320’s and have had ZERO issues with mine.
My 320 Legion X-Five is a duty use gun with well over 3k rounds through it.
My 365 X-Macro has over 1k through it and is my off-duty carry.
@@johncastle8007literally same
Thanks. This doesn’t scare me away from mine. I really hope they get yours running like a champ.
Same with mine. Only time I had issues with trigger was when I first got the gun and was a new gun owner. Limp wristing caused some malfunctions with reset, but that was on me not the gun.
Have you tried the factory reset? You turn it off, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on.
Or blow into it like an old Nintendo game cartridge🤣👍
It would be nice if they told you what part failed. And if it's all 365XL or a small batch. What serial numbers are affected.
I just got my 365XL a few weeks ago and have gone shooting a couple times since then, today being my 3rd time, probably around 600 rounds through it so far and just came across what I believe is the same issue. A few times I’d pull the trigger it wouldn’t fire as expected until I really had to squeeze down pretty hard on it, much more than a typically trigger squeeze. Have you received yours back from SIG yet and is the issue fixed? Curious what that process has looked like dealing with them. Thank you.
Update: called Sig, brought it to my local gun shop for them to send to Sig, got it back about a week later with a replaced FCU.
I thought maybe the reliability issues were overblown until yesterday at the range, my well maintained/clean Gen 2 P365 with 400rds through it suffered its first light primer strike on premium HP ammunition that I carry in it. Literally while I was at the range when this happened, another shooter with a P365X (made in in 2022) with 500 rounds through it suffered a failure to extract. I inspected his gun and it was well maintained. He also had proper form when shooting, so it wasn't a limp wristing issue. He was mystified. I'm a former MP and executive protection professional and have decades of experience with various handguns. The new Sig is NOT the old Sig. I repeat, the new Sig is NOT the old Sig. Massive QC issues and steel quality/heat treatment issues under the newer leadership. Don't believe me? Go on Wikipedia and read about all of the lawsuits against Sig right now for their P320 Pistol. I will never buy a Sig again unless it's a used one from the 80s or 90s. I simply cannot trust them to go bang or to not have a catastrophic failure at some point because of their poor QC.
Sucks but I'm not to worried about it. I've had major reliability issues with CZ, Sig, S&W, Ruger, and FN pistols at this point. Everything from total lockup to hammer follow when racking the gun with my finger no where near the trigger. Shit happens sometimes. Of you heard about it constantly that would be a different story.
I've had issues with 2 glocks. None are perfect
I was dead set on doing a P365xl build using the macro grip sig just dropped, but I’m going to wait until your update to see if it’s worth the risk. I have never owned a Sig, but was very excited to get one when the XMacro came out. Hope to hear some good news after your friend gets it back.
I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet. I’ve seen a few P365XLs that have over 5000 rounds with all original parts with no stoppages or drama. There are a TON of P365’s out there and they still have a good rep. I don’t like Sig much, but I do carry a P365XL and I think it’s a sound design. I suspect the issue is either a worn striker channel liner, as Glock would call it, or some gunk preventing the trigger or sear from completing its travel. It’s acting just like a gun with it’s trigger overtravel set too low. From what I’ve seen, these pistols age pretty well, and are well-made. Better engineering than the P320 for sure.
The Xmacro basically has a full sized grip. It's taller than a G19, and it has almost the same slide length. It's a good gun. Very thin, but don't go into it thinking it's a small gun.
The xmacro is wayyyy overrated and over priced. My shield plus has less recoil. #2 I can’t say that I would ever appendix carry a sig with all the shit going on with guns firing by themselves. I’ll gladly keep my Glock pointed at my junk all day long. I’ll probably sell my xmacro
@@goatmurray Your idea is the only one on here that actually makes sense and I concur.
Sig is reliable. People in here are over reacting to a dude whole melted his frame to add texture now his gun malfunctions. The sigs are reliable and excellent.
Exactly what's going on with my new 365XL. Started first time on the range with it a couple weeks ago. I'll be reaching out to Sig ASAP!
Have you had any issues while you have a loaded magazine in? Did Sig ever get back to you?
@@Homie101 At the range with a loaded magazine is when we had this occur. Waiting to hear back from Sig.
Do you happen to know which year it was made? I have a newer xl and haven't had any problems yet. I have heard the 1st p365 and 365 xl have had a few problems. Firing pin seemed to be issue with the older ones.
Wow, that’s crazy that Sig wouldn’t take care of their customers when he initially called the first time.
I’m not a gunsmith, but it does seem to me that it may be a very small metal particle that is causing the trigger to not be fully pulled by the operators finger pressure when intended to have the gun go off.
It may be something in the plunger, or sear, or something very, very small on the trigger bar.
Again, I’m no gunsmith, I’m just giving my two sense and hoping this will help diagnose the issue.
I really hope Sig owns this hiccup and take care of your friends gun.
I know if I did something wrong by accident to one of my customers/clients, I’ll take care of it regardless if it was their fault or not.
A small complaint is not with me trying to prove a point.
I’ll just take care of my customer/client and call it a day.
Great video by the way… keep it up. 🤙🏼
I am thinking the same thing as well...
I'm genuinely surprised if you told them the trigger doesnt fire when you pull it that they didn't warranty it. They are super responsive with their warranty work because they dont want videos like this. Looks at what happened with Nutnfancy and his cross rifle. They saw a malfunction on his video, called him, and did a recall for the rifles.
I was also very surprised
Sometimes it just depends on the person on the other end of the phone. My father kept having light primer strikes when the initial P365s came out. When he contacted Sig, the other person on the line asked him what ammo he used and how many rounds he fired. Afterwards they said his P365 needed to be broken in more and to shoot another 200 rounds with different ammo. My dad hung up, immediately called customer service again, explained the issue again to the new guy on the phone, and that guy took care of the issue without any hassle.
sig refused to cover my 365 under warranty because I couldn't provide an "itemized purchase invoice". I threw away the receipt so I guess that voids the sig warranty. I think sig only cares about people with a big following so that they don't make sig look bad. But they don't seem to care about your average Joe like me...
@@JacksonWalter735 I've called Sig with an issue in the past and the first guy I talked to was so rude I hung up on him. Called back the next day and got the nicest person I've ever talked to in customer services. Sig has a customer service problem as well.
@@JacksonWalter735 I'm always surprised how these people keep their jobs, let alone getting hired in the first place. For a gun that most use as a carry gun you would think reliability of the firearm would be the absolute number one priority for them, but some people just never understand these things it seems.
great video , but , in watching the "field" strip cleaning part of your video , i would have done a complete detail cleaning/strip of the slide removing/cleaning the striker assembly and removed the "trigger pack" from the grip which may have revealed "a problem" , but to be clear , you were pulling the trigger while doing the shaking , is that correct?
The trigger was being held back as far as it could go the entire time.
Is this possibly an OOB scenario? Maybe when you shake it then goes fully into battery. It hit me when you pushed the slide forward. Maybe just a bad or worn out recoil spring.
This is EXACTLY what my Glock would do in my bad dreams where I had to defend myself! I hated the trigger when I was awake, but it did this constantly in my dreams! Glock customer service was EXTREMELY rude, and only laughed at me when I asked what they could do to resolve the situation!
That's a shame, they could have suggested something helpful like valerian root or a calming herbal tea.
@@theKashConnoisseur you would think so! Lol
@@lubrew5862 the whooshing noise you heard when you clicked "Reply" was the joke zooming over your head.
@@lubrew5862 He said it was a dream, a bad dream.
@@theKashConnoisseur So non funny joke. Someone referring to a dream and not dream. Now an immature troll putting someone down to make themselves feel better. Did it work? Does putting me down make your life a little better. I feel sorry for you.
Also look up hyperbole. It may help in show where your attempt to insult fell short.
As part of your breakdown why did you not remove the striker and make sure there was no debris in that area or check to see if the owner had mistakenly thought it needed lube when it should be bone dry? I’d be curious of how that area looked.
So you're a Sig fan boy that can't admit this is far from normal
@@knine8154 I don't think that's an unreasonable question. Why go through the field strip and NOT look in the striker channel? I have SIGs, but I'm just as ready as anyone to ensure they do the right thing and I will not be carrying my 365XL until we get an update.
Damn that was a reasonable question you people act like you would throw a pistol away if it didn't work perfectly one outing but as for me I try to fix the problem before sending my firearms off to someone else... Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater it's an old saying but it's valid
@@Vicarium Sigs have a dangerous amount of problems and fan boys denie it, that's why
@@9mmthroatpunch211 I feel you, but I would send it in first.
Got me scared so I tested mine as soon as I saw this issue. Luckily mine is working fine
Sorry if I missed it but did this problem happen from the start or after xxx rounds? I have XL with manual safety. So far so good. Hoping I am good to go but afraid an issue may show up later. Hence, my question.
Definitely take out the fcu and look at the trigger bar side of it. Look up under the back lip of the trigger paddle where it hits the full range of motion stop and see if an obstruction is there. Also where it releases the sear could be crud there too. To really clean it take out the fcu because there are lots of small moving parts in that tiny removable module. check inner wall on trigger bar side to see if "burs" or something preventing full range of motion. Agree with you ....not a good situation!..lol. Oh, also check the take down lever cam on the trigger side to see if trigger upper part of paddle is hitting that, or if it is not fully seated in the groove.
I've had a similar issue with a CZ SPO1. Within the first 400 rounds of ownership the sear pin walked itself out and the trigger wouldn't always work, similar to this.
Worked at a gun store in 2018 when the original 365 came out, I remember we had to send so many back to sig because of their issues. Now all the sig fans claimed they fixed it and the new 365s are good. But I still stay away from my experience. I do enjoy the p220 series however.
That happened with my brand new cz p10f SR but it would fire a few round and then the trigger would stick. But that 365xl is dangerous hope he gets it fixed
Had this exact same problem, same issue, but never figured the shake to fire aspect. Just experienced the delayed or no fire on trigger pull. I called. Gun had 1000+ rounds through it and I owned it about 9-10 months when this started to happen. Sig service was great - I called them and they sent immediately a shipping label to get it to them. Turned it around back to me in 48 hours and had replaced the entire trigger mechanism. Gun was flawless after. I sold it and got a P365X Macro. Which is awesome. Also have a 365X that has been my favorite edc.
Damn 48 hours is a crazy turnaround.
I have P65XL, two P65’s, a P36 X Macro (edc) , a P320 full size and a P320 X Five Legion. Not one has ever had an issue. Every manufacturer has a few that sneak out with an issue. There’s no doubt about it. That’s all this is.
Agreed, got an x5 legion and a macro myself, not one issue as well besides the fact that they keep selling out of the macro mags
Odds are someone took striker safety out while cleaning and forced/banged it back in thereby distorting it. Watch this video by SIG GUY titled
SIG Sauer P365 COMPLETE disassembly. Part 1 of 2 at about 19:15 time stamp. ua-cam.com/video/fV4UFjgPx3Q/v-deo.html
I’ve heard issues with most of the sigs you own this is an issue across multiple platforms not just a bad QC definitely a major problem
I have several sigs. Not an issue with any of them. 1000s of rounds through each. With that said. If this is stock send it back and get the damn thing fixed
He says in the video that he bought the gun and immediately noticed the issue... then went on to put 1000+ rounds through it. Clearly something is wrong with it. It should've been sent back before it was ever fired.
Sounds like your disconnector is getting hung up. On a empty handgun keep the trigger firmly, pull the slide back and manually allow the slide to go back into into⁷ battery very slowly by using you off hand. Does it seem to get going u4
Does it seem to get hung up while sliding the slide forward. If so, that is a disconnector issue.
You did not take out the FCU when cleaning. What ammo did you use? Have same gun, more round count and dont have this issue. Looking forward to the update and what Sig has to say.
Going by what I've seen lately everything for Sig is Normal and just needs Break In 🤢🤮
Gotta love that sig perfection
Ive had 2 factory glocks stove pipe and fail to fire. Shit happens all mass produced things have issues eventually
@@ajjohn8729 Glock don't have as many issues though
Just because they can, doesn't mean there is a pattern
Sig has a pattern lol, specially with striker fired weapons
@@ch3cksund3ad no ones gunnu mention glock quietly changing the trigger system when the gen 4s started firing when the slide dropped or nudging it a little to hard huh? And the trigger reset issues... and trigger spring issues.. nah glock has no known problems. You're right
@@ajjohn8729 again, not well known, and not repeated, or in a pattern
You gonna keep throwing a fit?
@@ch3cksund3ad happened to an officer on camera in main, glock repeated it with the amrourer and changed the design after
Can you tell when the gun was produced?
I purchased my xl about a two years ago and don't believe there have been any issues like this
wait it was having a delayed firing pin drop and when you cleaned it you didn't break down the slide and pull the firing pin?
Sig continues to put out innovative products with Major QC issues. It’s not okay.
LOL!!!😅
this is why there should be a trigger safety on these. one reason I'm considering going to a GX4 XL
I never liked the Glock trigger safety but now it makes sense.
@@meee175 Trigger safeties are nice but if you live in a cold/wet (possibly super dusty) Environment then maybe not your best option. Watch Garand thumbs torture test on pistols. Obviously, his test is towards the extreme, but it shows the weakness of a platform and the different designs. I love my Glocks but the 365 won me over for EDC with the modular design, I do highly recommend getting an upgraded trigger spring kit, both my 365xls have it and I highly recommend. It lets you adjust the tension for the pull and reset independently. Example.... My EDC trigger pull is the same as "stock", but the reset is much stiffer, pretty much pushing your finger back. Where my range toy build has a super light pull and a medium-stiff reset for an almost forced reset action.
Do it, their awesome. I'd recommend the T.O.R.O. variant.
Shield plus
Can you post what the first 3 of the serial is? I know 66A was the first round and had the most issues. 66B and beyond have been more reliable so I heard. I have a 66F waiting at the FFL for me..
Man! I was just thinking about one for my Christmas present to me! Now I’ve got second thoughts. Keep us informed!🇺🇸🤠
I appreciate you being positive throughout this. It's a nice change from the flame train that a lot of people get on for views.
That being said...this gun would be a range toy at most for me. I would never rely in it for protection and in good conscience could not sell it without making the new owner aware. I'm not saying ALL sig are trash but this has been going on for YEARS with these lines of pistols. I remember when they first starting pushing the P3XXX lines it had similar issues and the drop issues. Back then that pushed me away. I figured by now they'd have it worked out and have been considering a P series. As a back up or something to just feel different from my shadow systems (glock). Just to find out no, still having issues. This makes me weary to EVER buy a sig for anything let alone protection.
I don't care who says: "My sig is fine. No issues, x amount of rounds all good." That doesn't matter to me. With the amount of failures that have come from this line in the past x years it isn't even close to a consideration. I'm aware every gun has malfunctions. It's the frequency that's concerning.
Cool that sig decided to fix it but warranty doesn't matter when you're in a situation that requires you to draw your pistol.
It's not like Glock was free from issues when they first made their striker fired polymer designs. In 1992 and 1993 Glock had a recall and a voluntary upgrade program to address issues which could result in unintended discharges. One was a firing pin safety issue which they had to address after reports of G19s firing when the slide was dropped. And the second was to address a design issue with the early G19 slides that could result in an out of battery discharge if the weapon experienced double feeds.
Now, you might go "but SIG is having repeated issues even after their fixes." And sure, but then lets not forget the Glock 36 recall in the early 2000s due to issues with the trigger safeties. The truth is, making a new gun is really hard. And lots of companies have growing pains surrounding new designs. Even Glock's perfection is not immune to this reality. If you prefer Glock, that's fine. But let's not pretend that Glock (or S&W, or Walther, etc) haven't also had issues.
@@theKashConnoisseur The tech isn't new. NOTHING IS PERFECT. (Except Gaston) Yes new things have issues. Striker fire polymer is not new. QC is being cut short. I'm not saying your example is the absolute most recent example but that was about 20 years ago. Your other examples were about 30. I also know the G44 are finicky but as are a good few 22 cal pistols. I also never pretended Glock didn't have issues I was saying I wanted to get something new to change it up from my "Glock". I LITERALLY WROTE: "I'm aware every gun has malfunctions".
(Did you actually read my comment?)
I am pointing out the fact that sig has been "plagued" with similar issues with this line up since inception. At a rate that I would consider excessive. This started in 2014 when the P320 was released in 9mm. So were about to be at 9 years since release and still having drop fires and now shake fires. This is not new tech (Glock kicked it off in the early 80s), this is not cutting edge. These should not be going out to market and should absolutely not be advertised as self defense pistols.
@@lighlotus117 Glocks were still having issues 20 years after they were released, and they also had repeat issues. I did read your comment, and I see that you acknowledged all guns have issues. But you seem to think that SIG must have started with the base that Glock spent 40 years building. News flash: that's not how it works, especially with patents.
My whole point is, if this kind of thing is a deal killer for you and striker fired SIGs, I have to wonder at the internal mental gymnastics you must play carrying a Glock.
What's SIG's failure rate? Can you cite me a source, how many out of a million? No? Didn't think so. All you and anyone else knows is that they had a drop safe issue which they addressed, and that there are individual pistols which may or may not have manufacturer defects. Which is no different than Glock having it's own issues, fixing them, and occasionally releasing individual pistols that don't meet QC.
But go off! You realize Glock doesn't hand out their design details, and they have patents and protections covering their designs? When a gun manufacturer decides to get into striker fired pistols, they may be inspired by Glock, but they are not built off of them. Everyone starts from the ground floor.
@@theKashConnoisseur
Bud. Calm down. The only thing I ever mentioned about glock in the beginning was that I was looking for a change of pace from it. You went pretty hard on pointing out glock faults. That...when they did the polymer strikers was new and kind of lead the way. At least were and arguably are the most successful with it. They had problems. Yep. You got it. And like I said. Occasionally still do. But nothing like you see with what sig has been putting out. Sig does not copy paste glock designs but they aren't reinventing the wheel. Far from it. It's the same tech. Don't come at me with the "What's the source for the defect rate?" No I don't have the exact numbers. I'm an adult with a pretty realistic and rational view on most things. I don't need to. No one should need them it's pretty clear. You don't see people making videos, writing articles or making posts about how their Glocks, since we're so focused on Glock, have been firing on their own or when getting dropped or shaken. There's no mental gymnastics needed. You're looking for a striker pistol you look them up and research. You find Glock has been in use since the 80s and has pretty much reigned supreme in the field especially as of late. Adopted by military police and security world wide. Picked up by the civilian market, worldwide. What's the number one complaint with glocks? Shit trigger. Go to Sig. Pretty solid history. Enter P320 into Google, "Accidental Discharge" is a an actual suggestion. It's 2022, not 1992 or 2004. I'm buying a pistol now. Do i go with the sig and ignore the seemingly high rate of issues because we'll, "They're new in their development, Glock used to have issues to so that makes it okay. Every gun has malfunctions so it's okay that this one is kind of known for it. The bad guy will stop when I have to send this is for warranty."
To me it's a no Brainer. I work in quality, no way would I carry or suggest someone carry a Sig P3XXX series pistol. It's a gun that's 9 years old with the amount of issues that have been coming since release vs a gun that's been out since the 80s that's been through the paces and the rough patches and comes out on top almost all of the time. Maybe it's because sig is winning all these contracts and QC can't keep up. Who knows. Sig does some great stuff. Their striker fire pistols? Not amongst them. Not yet anyways. When it's someone's life on the line I'm not ready to put the weight on a striker sig. Whether you like it or not all these polymer strikers are trying to do is dethrone Glock. But you can't out Glock a Glock. NOT SAYING EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRASH.
Random example. Olight blew up in a guy's mouth and killed him. Guess what light I'm not running? Especially when I can go to something like a surefire/modlite/cloud defensive hell even streamlight. The decision is effortless. Whether I plan to put the light in my mouth or not as silly as that sounds. It's sad but true that it takes a lot less to tarnish a name than build it. Especially and rightfully so when it comes to weapons.
Take care of yourself man.
@@lighlotus117 If you look in the comments section of this very video, you can see people talking about issues they've had with S&Ws, with Glocks, with Shadow Systems, with Caniks, etc etc. The reason I asked you for some citation of failure rate is to point out how you don't actually have any stats on ANY gun makers failure rates.
When Remington was selling the most guns in the US, they had the highest number of manufacturer defects. Well, now SIG is selling TWO of the top 5 best selling guns right now. As well as massive military and police contracts. But you, and a lot of other people, can't differentiate between individual failures and statistical failures. Not only that, but SIG is under extra scrutiny since it's replacing military sidearms. Every time the military replaces a gun, people shit on the replacement. It's always said to be worse than Old Reliable, until the next generation fully adopts it and it becomes Old Reliable. That's what's going to happen with the P320, just like it happened with Glock, and with Beretta before that, and the 1991 before *that*.
But I get it, millions of new gun owners with no idea about firearms history see a few videos about manufacturer defects that are common to many guns, coupled with a recent voluntary upgrade which is again, common to many manufacturers. And you think this is some inherent issue with a specific design because you lack any real insight on the industry.
That’s so weird!! I just watched a guys 320 fire while in the holster!! And people wonder why I won’t carry Sig haha 😂
It's definitely something to keep in mind but you'll find malfunctions with any manufactured item. Search your favorite gun maker and you'll find a plethora of people having problems.
I rented a 365XL yesterday from my local range to get a side-by-side comparison with a HK P2000 I own. I encountered two similar malfunctions where I pulled the trigger and nothing happened. After examining the pistol, I noticed the slide had not fully returned to the forward position (about 1mm extruded from flush) so I used my hand to nudge the slide forward. After doing that, the gun fired like normal. Shaking the gun like the OP does in this video might be unintentionally returning the slide to the proper position which allows it to finally activate the striker.
I had the same thing happen with a rented P365, No X, no L. It was using Fiocchi 9mm ammo, which is not my preferred stuff. Wasn't able to test spare mags or different ammo brand due to the rules my local range has for their rentals, so I can't really say for sure if it's the gun. Some guns are simply picky about the ammo they run.
5:45 is it safe to spray cleaner/oil directly to the striker channel housing?
I’ve had this gun for over 3 years and I’ve never had an issue with it and I’ve sprinted with it and even dropped it loaded with no issues. Sounds like he had a bad one of the bunch. Hopefully it gets fixed!
Hate videos like this that only show a weird rarity issue
I thought the reliability issues were overblown until yesterday at the range, my well maintained/clean Gen 2 P365 with 400rds through it suffered its first light primer strike on premium HP ammunition that I carry in it. Literally while I was at the range when this happened, another shooter with a P365X (made in in 2022) with 500 rounds through it suffered a failure to extract. I inspected his gun and it was well maintained. He also had proper form when shooting, so it wasn't a limp wristing issue. He was mystified. I'm a former MP and executive protection professional and have decades of experience with various handguns. The new Sig is NOT the old Sig. I repeat, the new Sig is NOT the old Sig. Massive QC issues and steel quality/heat treatment issues under the newer leadership. Don't believe me? Go on Wikipedia and read about all of the lawsuits against Sig right now for their P320 Pistol. I will never buy a Sig again unless it's a used one from the 80s or 90s. I simply cannot trust them to go bang or to not have a catastrophic failure at some point because of their poor QC.
Thank you for posting this. I’d been considering buying a 365 because I was told they’d fixed their previous issue with the firing pin now that I know about this I’ll just stick with my Taurus; it’s worked correctly from the first to the last round.
GX4?
Same with my G2, it's been reliable, the trigger is just a bit gritty, but for $200, I think it's pretty good.
It was the standard p365s that had issues. I haven't heard of any issues with the XLs before. I own an XL, I've got thousands of rounds through it and I've never had a problem aside from a few failures to eject with Hertzers ammo.
Is wait until he finds out what the issue is. Lot of people with multiple thousands of rounds issue free. He also didn't say the gun was bought new, just bought. Taurus has had tons of issues over the years
@@RonSpilker that's what I'm saying I would not trust my life to a Taurus. But that's me. Better inexpensive firearms
So this Only happens if you manually load an empty gun w/o the mag in it?
P365 was my first firearm I ever purchased. Never personally had any issues with it except my aim sucked at first. After buying many firearms after, I decided to get a P320 X Carry, and I had so many issues with it including a firing pin just breaking out of nowhere, just sold it about a month ago. Customer service has always been really good to me, and they offered me to send it in as well. Not going to lie , that malfunction your friends p365 is having though would make me definitely say I want to send it in no matter what the customer service rep said to me. Shake and wake! 😅
I own almost every Sig X made. Have duty carried them for the last 3 years with Zero malfunctions. They have performed flawlessly in life or death situations. Considering how many Sigs are out there, a few UA-cam videos shouldn't deter you from buying/owning one.
True enough, but neither should Sig dismiss this one with "Oh, the gun's just not broken in yet!" That's some horse sch!tt right there!!
As I said above:
Sometimes it's the GUN, sometimes the USER, sometimes BOTH : )
I usually don't have the problems others have, or at least I can find a solution on my own.
@@PanhandleFrank To me that's more of a bad customer service rep than a stain on the entire company. I hope that call gets reviewed and the CS manager gives that rep a talking to, though.
@@theKashConnoisseur Yup.
Exactly. Just like the P320 supposedly firing on it’s own (which is a complete lie) amazing how it always happens when it’s being manipulated by people. If it were really happening like people say with the number they are out there we would hear it more. Amazing how it’s never oh my p320 went off sitting in the Safe or on the nightstand. It’s always I was re holstering or the gun was in my purse without a holster
Wow, super surprised that a Sig would have a trigger issue, I’ve definitely never heard of that happening before. Don’t shake them, don’t drop them, don’t buy them to begin with. Also, generally quality guns shouldn’t require a break-in period outside of maybe precision rifle barrels.
I wish people would stop spreading this misinformation. Quality guns with tight tolerances require break in. For example, every hand fitted 1911 or 2011 has a break in period. They’re built tight with over spec springs which lends to long life and tac driver accuracy. These run of the mill Sigs are just poorly made.
@@Karma28217 competition guns are neither what we are talking about nor are the known for their reliability over their looser partners. In the world of competition guns you sacrifice some reliability some improved accuracy, recoil control, and the ability to sometimes shoot underpowered ammunition. There’s several reasons why you don’t see militaries and entire police departments rocking Stacattos or Shadow 2s
@@operator1192 Well... the Staccato P has been picked up by numerous law enforcement agencies at the local and federal levels all over the United States. Most 1911s aren't competition guns, but the decent ones are still tightly fitted and require a break in. Due to their tolerances they tend to last a long time. I've had Springfield and Dan Wesson 1911s and all have required break in. While most 2011s ARE competition focused, that was only due to the niche of wanting a high cap 9mm 1911 patterned handgun. Originally pretty pointless in the duty role but excellent in competition (still is). Modern tech has made the 9mm a great defensive round that is now widely adopted. With that said... break in just means working the gun with a few hundred rounds until the slide locks back after last round of mag reliably, and you don't need the strength of Thor to rack the slide. These issues with Sig have nothing to do with break in. No one needs to break in a gun so the trigger works safely... Poor manufacturing/design is the culprit.
Did Sig send a detailed repair sheet back with the pistol? (Explaining exactly what was the malfunction)
It has not come back yet
Between this and the P320 self firing issue, I just can't trust the SIG name. I'll stop my search for a Macro and go back to S&W.
I'm going to step out on a limb and become an advisor to the Tactical Advisor. Unrelated to the issue you described, you committed a definite NO-NO in gun handling and practice. Every licensed gunsmith I have ever spoken to will tell you that it is a bad bad thinig to drop a round into the tube of a semi-automatic handgun and slam the slide shut on it. I learned this the hard way after snapping off my extractor. When you do what you did, you force the extractor to hit the rim and get strained in ways it was not designed for, thereby weakening it. It may not happen after 100's of rounds, but eventually it will break off when you least expect it. Bad practice. Lesson over.
You’re 100% right, dude I used to work security with would do that shit with MY gun. Drove me batshit🤨
Does this affect the SIG P229 as well?
Guide rod spring? Out of battery? Did you try to unplug it, wait 5 sec and plug it back in?
Mkay...
I hope this isn’t a sign of major quality control issues with Sig
theyve always had those though. they are always pushing out new products and cranking them out at max capacity. they innovate but their quality always suffers and they use their customers as test subjects.
The newer sigs all have it. I prefer classic line
I’m sticking to my gleezy 😂
Seems to me that it is a "out of battery" problem, is that feture going smooth or are there some hangups, a burr or something?
I got rid of mine because of similar issue's. I traded it in and took the loss because I didn't want to sell it to anyone.
Have the hellcat and hellcat pro now and am happy with them.
Never had this issue with Glocks. If somebody handed me an assortment of sidearms, without any knowledge of the condition of the weapons, it would be a Glock every time. I want to like Sig and S&W but they just seem to fall short where it matters most.
All firearms may have and have had problems...no exception! I own both Glocks and Sigs and have never had any problem.
@@mnrodriguez Glocks don't fire by themselves man 🤷
@@mnrodriguez When you're paying HK and prices but getting sub Hi-Point results, it's a major problem. I'm not saying Glocks are without flaws, but its the stock sights that people have problems with. I'll take having to replace sights over replacing how I walk for the rest of my life.
@@joeybaby2505 they don't seem to do it often these days but in the 90s and early aughts it happened from time to time. They've had a few recalls and voluntary upgrades to address issues over the years.
And every pistol manufacturer has QC defects like the one in this video that impact proper function but don't exactly make the gun shoot itself.
It might sound weird but at this point, Taurus has become more reliable than Sig and it is not a difficult bar to meet anymore. Another UA-camrs Sig fired in holster just like Milwaukee Police Department.
I agree with the newer sigs I like the older classics models when comes to sig the Sao n da/sa
That was with a 320 right?
@@clapback7266 yes and it was during a competition. Luckily, his knife in the cargo pocket saved him. I’ll find the link for that video to share here. I think the focus on quantity to meet government/military orders has caused Sig to slip on some quality control.
@@clapback7266 here’s the link to his video:
ua-cam.com/video/FBjo62vSYZk/v-deo.html
@@farhan.naushad YOOO, I met the guy IRL at a 2 gun comp. We live in WA state and I've taken a lot of the Sig P320 failures with a grain of sale since they always seemed to happen to military/law enforcement only but then I heard his story and just can't get down with Sig P320s until they add an internal safety mechanism
Ok. Now it makes sense. The slide is not going all the way forward. My guess is it’s either got some wear somewhere and it’s got a slight rough spot right at the end or a burr. Inspect the barrel and slide and the fire control group very closely. If he used steel case he could have worn or gouged the chamber. Could have some buildup slightly in the chamber you can’t see. Recoil spring could be weak.
Nothings perfect if it’s made by man. Wonder if it’s something with an out of battery safety?
I've been seeing a lot of issues out of Sig recently. There was a competitive shooter who was DQd after his P320 discharged in his holster. Thank God the worst injury was a minor bruise where the bullet struck his knife. I can't really trust my M17, seeing everything that's happened recently. That's fine, though. I have a CZ 75 and an M9A3 for the same purpose, and I would sooner put either gun on my hip.
Yeah I sold my M18 a few years ago after dropgate. I thought Sig had figured everything out with the (voluntary? come on!) recall. I just couldn't shake the idea of the gun going off when I was carrying AIWB. It had shook my trust in the P320 series so I sold it. I carry a P239 or P229 on the reg and have personally had nor have I see these kind of issues with the P22x series. Every platform has its downsides and teething issues early on in development, but these kind of issues are just too dangerous for me to ignore.
There have been multiple instances of military and police having the same thing happen. In the holster without a hand on it even. Bang. One lady was hit in he leg and it went down her leg and it came out the other side by her knee. Could have killed her.
Same here! I sold my M18 and my other sigs because of the SIG going off at the gun range while holstered. I appendix carry and feel very lucky and don't think I'll even own another SIG.
I saw the video. The bullet hit his pocket knife and deflected away or if would have hit his leg. Sig said he had a defective spring. Doesn't make you feel safe.
@@ing2373 Does it bother you knowing that Glock had a voluntary recall in the early 90s to address issues with their firing pin safeties? Issues that led to Glock 19s firing as soon as the operator dropped the slide, with no trigger press. Ok, how about the mandatory recall, also in the 90s, for G19s to fix a defect in the slides which could induce an out of battery discharge on double feeds? Ah, but surely Glock only had the two iss... NOPE. 2003, Glock 36 recall, for issues in the trigger safety.
It's almost like any gun company engineering a new design can have unforseen issues. From Remington, to S&W, to Walther, to SIG, and yes, even Glock.
Very curious to see the outcome. This happens to my sig365xl all the time. I thought i was doing something wrong because ive never had a flat trigger and thought about just switching out the trigger. Now im seeing this happening to a lot of people so i am going to contact sig myself.
I just posted the update video.
ua-cam.com/video/-4SBiqrTt3w/v-deo.html
Just picked up the new P365 with the factory optic cut today, and have the exact same issue. As this video, and it seems its getting worse.
@Tactical Advisor any update on the shake awake 365?
I just posted the update video.
ua-cam.com/video/-4SBiqrTt3w/v-deo.html
Thanks for sharing. This is huge. Ive really soured on sig with the p320 issues and some issues ive seen with p365 and more importantly the way they handle it. Deny and blame the customer. This is awful though! "Just break it in." I don’t carry my p365 anymore. Too much to lose and anything goes wrong sig would just say it's my fault. Most ppl dont have a platform like you do to hold them accountable.
Guys, you missing the point: this is a NEW SAFETY :)
Sig wants to make sure that after you acquired a target, you still want to shoot, if yes you shake that booty and boom :)
Lmaoooo 😂😂
@@mr_tacticaladvisor7980 no hard feelings brother, I'm just happy that my Sig doesn't have this feature
Per owners manual... never, never, never lub the firing mechanism. Was the guns striker removed and cleaned? I have not had any issues with my 365xl. I have seen 1000 round reviews of this weapon and no issues reported.
Good on Sig for fixing it.
I have owned the original 365 since a month after it came out. Never had an issue with it. I have several friends that carry, 365s, 365 XL, 365 Spectre, etc. No issues from theirs either.
I also own a P365XL; no issues whatsoever thus far.
Same have a 365 NRA edition when they first came out, have 365xl as well 0 issues with both
Same, have a few 320s too, no issues. Ive had two glocks that refused to extract the round. My berretta 9mm sear broke. Guns are dangerous. Its like people think there is a safe gun...
I have a 365X Romeo, with about 500 rounds fired, and have never had any issues either.
I appendix carry and I still got ‘em. So nay on any issues.
Well seeing this is worrying, just bought a sig p365 this weekend. hopefully we don't run into this issue🤞🏽
The standard P365 has an insane reputation for quality. Outside of the few guns at launch it is the recommended firearm of many gun tubers including former spec ops guys.
I own 2 and a 320. They’ve never had any issues
I am going to buy a SIG p320 AGX PRO should I be worried?
I would like to see if they fix it…
I had an issue with another brand recently, I sent it in and they fixed it quick.
I appreciate your video. This is a great reason why so many people say to put hundreds of rounds through your tool before you carry it.
Wow can't believe you made a video on this. This is the easiest fix in the world.
Just disassemble the gun.........
Throw it in the trash, and buy an HK or an SW.
PROBLEM SOLVED.