The REAL Reason NO OTHER Countries Helped Fight Against Voldemort - Harry Potter Theory

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  • Welcome to Harry Potter Theory. Today we’re discussing Wizarding conflicts.
    In the wizarding world of Britain, the threat of Lord Voldemort and his followers, the Death Eaters, cast a dark, ominous shadow over the entire magical population- a shadow that persisted for a long long time.
    Voldemort's reign of terror brought unprecedented tyranny to the wizarding world. Under his leadership, the Death Eaters mercilessly targeted and persecuted those who opposed them, instilling fear throughout the Wizarding community. Through his manipulation of dark magic, Voldemort was able to orchestrate a wide array of atrocities, ranging from mass murders to the infiltration and corruption of influential institutions like the Ministry of Magic. Via his insatiable thirst for power and dominance, Voldemort left a trail of destruction, that for a long time, forced Britain’s wizarding population to live in constant fear and subjugation.
    But perhaps the most surprising outcome of Voldemort’s reign of terror is the notable absence of external assistance or international intervention during this perilous period in Britain’s Wizarding history.
    As the threat of Voldemort grew, one would expect that neighboring countries, concerned about the potential ramifications on magical communities worldwide and the delicate balance between the magical and muggle worlds, would have rallied to support the subjugated wizards and witches of Britain.
    If Voldemort was such a menace, why didn’t other heroic wizards and witches from the international wizarding community volunteer to help fight against him?
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  • @AustynSN
    @AustynSN 4 місяці тому +195

    It's also worth noting that when the trio are breaking into Gringotts, Ron's cover was as a foreign wizard who wished to support the deatheaters' cause in his own country.

  • @fabianhaegi3734
    @fabianhaegi3734 4 місяці тому +1299

    Notice how in every year at hogwarts somebody tells Harry, this is the safest place in the world, yet every year he almost dies while attending hogwarts
    (EDIT: THIS IS THE MOST LIKES I EVER GOT FROM ANY OF MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS, THANKS A LOT 😀).

    • @Tim.Stotelmeyer
      @Tim.Stotelmeyer 4 місяці тому +118

      Safest does not mean 100% safe. It means all other places are worse.

    • @forteanmobius3272
      @forteanmobius3272 4 місяці тому +65

      "If this is the best of all possible worlds, what must the others be like?" - Candide

    • @fabianhaegi3734
      @fabianhaegi3734 4 місяці тому +18

      @Tim.Stotelmeyer.2984 i feel like HOGWARTS IS LITERALLY THE FIRST PLACE ANYBODY WOULD LOOK...to do or find something/someone important...

    • @Catherine.Dorian.
      @Catherine.Dorian. 4 місяці тому +13

      @@fabianhaegi3734But finding Hogwarts is supposed to be quite hard. You can’t apparate there, not even Dumbledore. The location is hidden and I don’t think the Hogwarts express is open outside of school so you can’t just follow that

    • @joeortner8672
      @joeortner8672 4 місяці тому +25

      @@Catherine.Dorian. Harry and Ron managed to follow the train in there second year. They somehow figured out which train it was from the air.

  • @jbsmith966
    @jbsmith966 4 місяці тому +460

    Emperor Palpatine ruled a galaxy.
    Voldemort could not take over a high school.

    • @jessicaregina1956
      @jessicaregina1956 4 місяці тому +20

      Hey, its better than gozer the gozerian. Couldnt defeat 4 guys

    • @chrishale7480
      @chrishale7480 2 місяці тому +11

      They both lost due to self fulfilling prophecies.

    • @artcory6224
      @artcory6224 2 місяці тому +23

      ​@@chrishale7480Still, Palpatine enjoyed many years of rule, and actually, I think it's because nobody knew about his dark plans, except of Sith, who supported him, while Voldemort embodied arrogance, telling everybody that he's here

    • @DjDoomtrain
      @DjDoomtrain 2 місяці тому +7

      Ye but frodo finished the walking simulator

    • @DjDoomtrain
      @DjDoomtrain 2 місяці тому +1

      I bet billy mitchell is gonna claim that record at some time aswell. Poor frodo dont Even have a lawyer

  • @nhansen197
    @nhansen197 4 місяці тому +740

    Wizarding Britten is in many ways the Wizarding world's version of Germany. Other countries would take one look and say not my problem right up until it is their problem.

    • @panchitoborja
      @panchitoborja 4 місяці тому +22

      True

    • @eveillanderson
      @eveillanderson 4 місяці тому +23

      @@panchitoborja or worse agree with the politics prior to understanding their intent

    • @Shadow-ru5pq
      @Shadow-ru5pq 4 місяці тому +36

      That's what my grandfather said ezactly happened in ww2. He was Sgt. Leonard Joe Dahl who fought in the infantry against the Germans (he was German but his parents came to America right after ww1 due to the shame they felt about their country, so naturally he wanted to fight the nazis knowing full well he was killing what used to be his people. You were my role model papa I miss you. Rest Easy and fly high sir!

    • @beentheredonethat5908
      @beentheredonethat5908 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Shadow-ru5pqPeople gave little idea of the truth of hitler. Mamy nations HELPED him get power and over throw the former government.

    • @bradleychan5684
      @bradleychan5684 4 місяці тому +3

      Wizarding Florida and Wizarding Middle East: (takes one look at Wizarding Britain...and shakes their heads in shame) Come on guys...Get your sh*t together...

  • @matthewpatrick7263
    @matthewpatrick7263 4 місяці тому +327

    There was a reason why Voldemort used Pius Thickness as MINISTER OF MAGIC. According to the official record, Rufus Scrimgeour was not murdered and the Ministry wasn't taken over by a terrorist. Pius Thickness was "legally" the next Minister after Scrimgeour's accidental death. The ICW either didn't know Voldemort had taken over or at least had plausible deniability. Britain was officially acting as though nothing wrong was going on. Some of the new policies may have raised ICW eyebrows, but not enough to send in troops.

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 2 місяці тому +14

      True doing so would just make them look bad, politics and such. Plus i doubt Voldemort's ideals would not have supporters accross the world. Freaking usa was more backwards than britain in how they looked at mugls and they lacked the traditions that britain had which usualy makes a culture more backwards.

    • @igorlopes7589
      @igorlopes7589 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Raximus3000 It is a wonder (in the bad sense) how wizarding america managed to become more regressive than britain. Their magical school was literally founded and led by a muggle-wizard couple, does someone know how they passed from a blood status blind society into literal segregation?? JK Rowling has to explain that, seriously

    • @Reiner547
      @Reiner547 Місяць тому

      ​​@@Raximus3000or maybe is because they have the fricking us goverment
      I would also play it quiet if I directed an undercover society under the nose of the USA
      We know how the goverment do

    • @AnnaBellaChannel
      @AnnaBellaChannel Місяць тому +8

      @@Raximus3000 Dumbledore to Harry: “He disappeared after leaving the school … traveled far and wide … sank so deeply into the Dark Arts, consorted with the very worst of our kind, underwent so many dangerous, magical transformations, that when he resurfaced as Lord Voldemort, he was barely recognizable.” (CS18)

    • @Raximus3000
      @Raximus3000 Місяць тому +4

      @@AnnaBellaChannel
      This seems more of speculation though than anything solid.
      Though it is intriguing to think the people he met and the reason they aided him in his transformation.
      Here is an idea a cabal of international dark wizards effectively made him into their "messiah" to conquer the world for them.

  • @gargoyles9999
    @gargoyles9999 2 місяці тому +29

    The real question is why no one at the big quittidch match did anything when the death eaters attacked. Everyone in the stands is a wand carrying adult who clearly graduated from a wizarding school along with probably some at least somewhat famous and competent wizards who all would have been old enough to have lived through or fought in the wizarding war. Basically it’s like a few dozen guys attacking an armed militia convention.

    • @w0t3rdog
      @w0t3rdog 19 днів тому +1

      Not everyone is willing or ready to put their life on the line when there is a lethal threat nearby. (Just look at the Uvalde school shooting, where the cops refused to enter when an active shooter was roaming the halls.) Most of the attending sports fans were mid celebration with their families when the Deatheaters attacked. Some would be inebriated. Some would have small children around. Some might have no practical experience with person-on-person magic useage. Some might have barely made it through Defence against the dark arts. Some might have still been gripped by the same fear that cowered the wizarding community less than 2 decades earlier... And when the mass panic erupted, it is hard to not get swept along. Some Ministry employees did eventually rally against the Deatheaters enough to cause them to scurry off, but we really only see perspectives from within the panicking horde running away from the Deatheaters so we dont know who, when or how many rallied.

    • @elyknavillus777
      @elyknavillus777 12 днів тому

      The Weasley do go to lend help once they secure the young ones in the tent.

    • @shadowlinkfire
      @shadowlinkfire 2 дні тому

      Its the same concept if someone pulls a metal muggle wand in a crowded area. There are plenty of people there to stop them before three bangs happen, but everyone turns tail and runs. Most people have a tendency to avoid dangerous confrontations, especially with individuals who have shown the potential of using force great enough to be lethal. AKA, the deatheaters were dangerous because they are capable and WILLING to use significant force upon others without initial remorse.

  • @meacadwell
    @meacadwell 4 місяці тому +159

    Technically, just because it wasn't brought up in the books, it doesn't mean the other wizarding governments weren't preparing just in case V ended up ruling in the UK. They could very well have had something in the works from the last time V was around.

    • @alpha34098
      @alpha34098 4 місяці тому +14

      I can understand for example the second reason for no Intervention in particular for the Russians/Soviet Successors due to the turmoil caused by the Soviet Union's collapse so, even if they knew of Voldermort's Return, they would not be able to do anything at the time since they had a lot of problems already on their plate
      Your case can actually apply for most European and African Communities (which have fought Voldermort in the past). And even would say that the Wizarding Communities of France, Spain and the Netherlands might have been mobilizing their best soldiers to assist Britain's more directly, by the time of the Battle of Hogwarts, to reclaim Britain's Ministry of Magic from Voldermort''s Forces while he was distracted with Dumbledore's Army, Order of the Phoenix and Hogwarts Personel
      The only Wizarding Communities that could have gotten involved for sure if Voldermort didn't lost in Hogwarts, were the American, Chinese and Japanese Comunities. Not because of ignorance, but because they were too far away to do anything

    • @xis10zera
      @xis10zera 3 місяці тому +5

      He who cannot be named can be named now

    • @meacadwell
      @meacadwell 3 місяці тому +3

      @@xis10zera Yeah, we all know that.
      I have rheumatoid arthritis and my hands hurt the day I typed this comment so I used just his initial instead of his entire name.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 3 місяці тому +2

      @@alpha34098 You know full well, that if the Chinese and Japanese Wizarding Communities were nearby, even Grindlewald would not have been a thing, never mind Voldemort.
      Those two even independently, would have crushed both of them without issue.

    • @adlan_kacak
      @adlan_kacak 2 місяці тому +1

      @@xis10zera what in the great heaven? XD

  • @Senki207
    @Senki207 3 місяці тому +85

    Azkaban never sat right with me, even as I was reading the books for the first time growing up. I always imagined some 17-18 year old kid, already an adult in the Wizarding World doing something stupid but not particularly threatening like theft or tax evasion and being sentenced to six months of pure torture.
    I mean imagine if you get caught in a carjacking at 18 and the only thing that sets you apart from a serial killer is the length of your sentence because you're both going to Guantanamo Bay.

    • @andreijohnson3953
      @andreijohnson3953 3 місяці тому +9

      Agreed. I think the logic behind this is that wizards and witches are not normal people and have magical abilities that are able to help them suppress or enhance certain things, so the only effective punishment is dementors. Squibs get lucky since they can’t do magic, so my assumption is that they don’t get sentenced to azkaban, but maybe regular human jail?… also makes me wonder if Voldemort was going to wipe out squibs since they can’t do magic…sorry different topic lol

    • @Senki207
      @Senki207 3 місяці тому +6

      @@andreijohnson3953 Yeah, but afaik, when you're sentenced to Azkaban, they also take your wand. Since the average wizard (like 95% of the Wizarding World probably) is almost completely useless at wandless magic, wouldn't a regular jail with skilled auror guards just be enough?
      After all, it is what they did after Voldemort's defeat, so the only reason I can think of for it not having been done sooner is the "it's always been this way" LoGiC

    • @andreijohnson3953
      @andreijohnson3953 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Senki207wizards can do wandless magic, just usually very small things. That is why they are seen to have “abilities “ at an early age, or is that exclusively children? I doubt it is just children. We already know ow that wizards and witches who try to “supress” their magic become an obscurous (however you spell that) that’s what happened to credence and Ariana Dimbledore (look up the theory behind that one) so Azkaban could potentially be a way for them to prevent from witches and wizards becoming an obscurous too.

    • @Senki207
      @Senki207 3 місяці тому +4

      @@andreijohnson3953 I believe there's a difference between an untrained child's unexpected outbursts of magic (flying, making walls disappear, etc) vs a trained adult wizard not having access to their wand.
      Wizards can do wandless magic, it's just that the average wizard isn't very skilled at it. So if they're put into a cell that's locked and protected via powerful spells to keep them in, they might learn to levitate their blanket to pass the time, but have no chance at breaking the magically protected lock.
      And don't forget, even if they DO break out of their cell, they'd have to contend with the well-trained auror guards, who, unlike them, have their wands at the ready. Wandless lock breaking sounds pretty advanced but wandless dueling is out of the question for anyone who isn't Dumbledore-level powerful.

    • @andreijohnson3953
      @andreijohnson3953 3 місяці тому

      @@Senki207so in other words everything I said was correct

  • @neilprice513
    @neilprice513 4 місяці тому +354

    I also heard of a theory about this that Hogwarts has always had at least one death and countless serious injuries each year, in it's student body, since it's founding. Far far far higher than any of the other countries Wizarding schools. So other countries looked down on how The British Isles' wizarding community trained their witches and wizards.

    • @Tyler_Skye77
      @Tyler_Skye77 4 місяці тому +30

      “Some” of that is also from not following rules & going into the forbidden forest or forbidden corridors, etc. Plus, they have a great reputation for being, not only possibly the best school for learning, but also the most well-protected. I could see why it would get so many students.

    • @neilprice513
      @neilprice513 4 місяці тому +17

      @@Tyler_Skye77 The "perception" of something doesn't always follow the facts of a situation

    • @JTStonne
      @JTStonne 4 місяці тому +14

      Beauxbaton and Dermstrang were at Hogwarts when Voldemort killed Cedric

    • @Tyler_Skye77
      @Tyler_Skye77 4 місяці тому +19

      @@neilprice513
      True, though they do have the most protection in place. They also kind of need it, so it’s hard to say whether that makes it better or worse.
      With their teaching, a lot of other countries teach different things & go more in-depth on others. That’s more up to everyone’s own thoughts on what would be best.

    • @christianponce4836
      @christianponce4836 4 місяці тому +1

      Looked at em like they were the ghetto 💀

  • @paul4586
    @paul4586 4 місяці тому +52

    The The second rise of Voldemort all happened in a year ( school year) where half of it the Ministry was in complete denial - if we look at Hitlers rise to power it was a good few years until he was noticed internationally as anything suspect

    • @pathutchison7688
      @pathutchison7688 2 місяці тому

      Mein Kampf was published in 1925. It openly called for the extermination of Jews in Europe and the destruction of of Bolshevism and the Slavs to create living space for the Germans. Hitler also had a paramilitary force in the SA that regularly participated in violent assaults and street fighting. To say that no one noticed that Hitler was a threat is not true at all. He was able to come to power due to things that were very specific to Germany at that time. Things like hyper inflation and the Treaty of Versailles that ended world war 1. But I do think that Hitler and Voldemort potentially do have something in common. Dealing with either of them was going to be a very expensive and bloody affair. No one in Europe had the stomach for another massive war in the 1930’s. So they appeased Hitler to try to keep the peace. Maybe there could be a parallel there with Voldemort. We just have way more info on actual history to draw on than we do fictional wizarding history.

    • @claytonhess5512
      @claytonhess5512 Місяць тому

      For that reason Times magazine will never recover. 😂😂😂

  • @Devious_Reviews
    @Devious_Reviews 4 місяці тому +149

    It's not my fight until the problem crosses a line, entering my territory, then it's gloves off. Voldemort was a big threat but was curiously stuck across the pond. He probably wouldn't have even stepped foot far north in fear of getting stabbed by a drunken Scot's beer bottle.

    • @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051
      @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 4 місяці тому +9

      😂 as a Scotsman I back this statement

    • @taelune
      @taelune 4 місяці тому +26

      Hogwarts and Hogsmeade are located in Scotland though? 🤔And they had their fair share of issues due to Voldemort and his regime. I do agree with your initial sentiments for why no one outside of Britain chose to get involved.

    • @Devious_Reviews
      @Devious_Reviews 4 місяці тому +5

      @@taelune I had a brain fart there. Tucked away in the mountains though though, right? The CGI used in movies made its geographical location (supposedly Highlands) a bit ambiguous for my smooth brain. ._.

    • @SquashGuy02134
      @SquashGuy02134 3 місяці тому +5

      Voldemorte would've always been assassinated. Unless there's an anti-50 cal spell he's done.

    • @spaceghstpxrrp
      @spaceghstpxrrp 2 місяці тому

      yap yap

  • @okebel3280
    @okebel3280 4 місяці тому +127

    I think it might have been a mix of all of the theories. Another one might be: There was no precedents on which to act. Meaning that it never happened that wizards and witches from another magical country sent troops to another country to bring back order to said country. It is also probably why there was never an international wizards war because secrety is the priority and an open conflict would have brought too much attention on them.

    • @alpha34098
      @alpha34098 4 місяці тому +17

      There was two actually. Grindenwald's Global Wirzading War which lasted from 1926 to 1945 (when he was defeated by Albus Dumbledore) and Voldermort's First Wizarding War

  • @1993Warbirds
    @1993Warbirds 2 місяці тому +63

    The thing I find funny about Voldemort's plan of eventually subjugating the Muggle World is that the Muggles aren't helpless anymore. Can't cast Protego on a bullet you don't see coming at supersonic speeds from a sniper rifle parked a mile away. Avada Kedavra does nothing to an M1A1 Battle Tank. Imperio does nothing to a Predator Drone that's just dropped a Hellfire Missile.

    • @evripidisalexiou6060
      @evripidisalexiou6060 Місяць тому +11

      You can become invisible and use mind control on key figures. Change your face and shape. And that if just one example
      I would also consider it logical that a spell protecting against kinetic force for a protracted period of time should exist. For instance cloaks with protego existed. Sure they probably only work on the parts of the body they covered but it does not matter
      Even if wizards are helpless toward bullets the first things I wrote would be enough. Honestly one genius guy with invisibility could well cause immense damage

    • @twiceremoved7339
      @twiceremoved7339 Місяць тому +8

      If wizards and witches actually existed, they would 100% be Salem'd in under a year.

    • @bman3794
      @bman3794 Місяць тому +15

      The magical world is stuck in the Victorian era so they think the muggles are as well. That includes their technology.

    • @1993Warbirds
      @1993Warbirds Місяць тому +10

      @@bman3794 Like Arthur Weasley is the only one that has even half a clue of how far Muggles have come, of the Wizards that weren't raised in the Muggle world, but even he's pretty clueless.

    • @bman3794
      @bman3794 Місяць тому +3

      @@1993Warbirds I wouldn’t say clueless. He knows more about muggles than the average wizard.

  • @TroyBoy87
    @TroyBoy87 4 місяці тому +17

    Here in Australia our witches and wizards had their hands full fighting the Emus 😂😂

    • @WonderboyWDE
      @WonderboyWDE Місяць тому

      Pretty sure kangaroos are the result of some sort of magic. Any animal that is THAT jacked in upper body, knows how to throw a punch and can also jump/bounce away that quickly isn’t of natural world creation. Those males are freaking JACKED I tell you. And they flex too? How do you guys even deal with them????

  • @grokeffer6226
    @grokeffer6226 4 місяці тому +55

    My guess would be that many of the magical persons were very afraid of Voldemort. Others might not have cared or might even have agreed with The Dark Lord and his followers. The people fighting him in Britain didn't have much of a choice in the matter. They were marked for death, so they had to fight. Since Voldemort's attention was focused primarily on Britain, magical persons in other places had other options rather than to fight one way or the other. They could also just hide, wait for the danger to pass, and try to get back to business as usual when the fighting was over, regardless of who won. Also, it could be that some passive assistance actually was given to "The Good Guys" from other areas in the world, only it had to be done in secrecy, because it wasn't a certainty on who would win.

    • @ginnyjollykidd
      @ginnyjollykidd 4 місяці тому +5

      Like the Lend-Lease program American President Roosevelt set up for Britain in WWII. This program said we would lend Britain ordnance and sustenance to the Brutish Armed Forces, or lease it with the idea that if there were materials (and materiel) left, it would come back to the US. (*wink wink*; not much ordnance comes back from a war)

    • @andreijohnson3953
      @andreijohnson3953 3 місяці тому +3

      Except that Voldemort was aiming to eventually take over the entire world, so had he succeeded taking over Britain, there would have been a world war with wizards all around the globe

    • @grokeffer6226
      @grokeffer6226 3 місяці тому

      @@andreijohnson3953 True. Any Witch or Wizard with a bit of good sense would have realized that Voldemort should be opposed however possible. But many people are just delusional and/or rotten to their core. Or inattentive. Or evil. 🧙‍♂🦹‍♂

  • @NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi
    @NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi 4 місяці тому +77

    internal affair..............real world most civil wars are considered internal issues and rarely the UN gets involved except for humanitarian aid

    • @maxpiemuse9584
      @maxpiemuse9584 4 місяці тому

      Usually other countries work behind the scenes to instigate civil wars.

    • @josephbolcome5462
      @josephbolcome5462 4 місяці тому +7

      Although sometimes the UN has authorized military actions. Korea and Yugoslavia come to mind. But those are still rare, like you said.

    • @Vanyali
      @Vanyali 2 місяці тому +2

      middle east to vs SH and ISIS

    • @alejandrop.s.3942
      @alejandrop.s.3942 Місяць тому

      Perhaps that's applied to the usual poor, under-developed countries, I doubt they'd let a dictatorship coup d'etat in the UK.

  • @charlottehardy822
    @charlottehardy822 4 місяці тому +45

    Other countries usually take quite a while to intervene in a country’s civil war without huge incentive, why soul the Wizarding world be different?

  • @BjornV1994
    @BjornV1994 4 місяці тому +24

    I think that any action taken by the international wizarding community had to be covert operations, not to blow the secrecy agreements and such operations would take time to set up. Now, in the first Wizarding War, this likely happened. Covert agents of other nations, tracking down and killing Death Eaters, while also keeping their own nations under control. The likes of Karkaroff proved that there are foreign wizards with a keen interest in Voldemort's agenda, so that would definitely be the first focus of each country. Ending those threats before they could become a problem. And this was all not so hard, because the Ministry of Magic in Great-Brittain held strong during the First Wizarding War, it was keeping strong.
    In the second Wizarding War, it was completely different story and the keyword in this story is without a doubt: politics. Any action that the international community would have taken against Voldemort would have been considered an act of war and would have drawn them into a conflict they had no stakes in. When Harry announced the return of Voldemort, Fudge denounced it as hysteria and probably this was a year where the international wizarding community couldn't do all that much. It wouldn't have been appreciated by the Ministry if for example the Americans or the French sent their agents to deal with the issue, as there was officially no issue. It would have been considered a breach of Magical Brittain's soevernity if one country sent their agents to the British Isles. It was politically an unwise move to do something. Even preparing to send troops might have been taken the wrong way by the ministry, so to appease the government, if foreign ministries did anything, it was domestic protection. Then, Voldemort's return was announced and Fudge was out, the international community wasn't only not prepared to send help, it isn't even sure if they were all that happy to help the Ministry clean up the mess they allowed to fester for a year. Politically speaking, it wouldn't be a popular measure for any government to take, to risk their citizens by sending them to Brittain as magical aid. But they were likely preparing to have some help ready as Voldemort was known to be too big of a threat to be left alone at this point.
    And than the unimaginable happened, a year after his return was officially recognized and the magical communities could finally, openly starting to thinking about a response, Dumbledore (the man who defeated the last large international threat) and the Ministry fell with Voldemort taking over. Fighting Voldemort was no longer an ethical question but a suddenly an open political question. Going against Voldemort for the policies he enact in Brittain, would go against the countries' soevernity now, violate potential peace treaties and could even be considered a clear declaration of war. Economic sanctions and trade embargos might have been levied against his regime but not much more than that. This is likely the reason why the Death Eaters moved so quickly this time. They took over the Ministry in just over two years while the last time they didn't get this far, despite being active for far longer. They likely made the mistake last time to allow the international community to rally against them and bolster the Ministry, keeping them up, so this time, they focussed on the take over first (working from the shadows for a year, really must have helped them a lot) as well as the assassination of Dumbledore, before making other big moves. They were exposed prematurely off course, putting a slight damper on the original plan (for the second time, the first time was with Harry escaping death) but with the right focus this time, they managed to almost pull it off successfully.

  • @resiplayerz
    @resiplayerz 4 місяці тому +74

    One more possibility. They did help but under the radar. As in real life countries share intelligence etc without letting others know.

  • @FAM0US-M0NSTERS-
    @FAM0US-M0NSTERS- 4 місяці тому +13

    I always thought of Voldemort as more along the lines of a super villain. Never saw NATO going after Lex Luther or Dr. Doom.

    • @Chellebelle121
      @Chellebelle121 4 місяці тому +4

      Fair point!

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 3 місяці тому +6

      There is one exception to the Lex Luther dilemma. When he was President, he was removed by massive international pressure, because he was caught doing a deal with Darkseid.
      I remember that when that came out, all the nations threatened to attack the US if Lex was not removed, because Darkseid is a threat against the planet itself.

  • @Spawned-uy8ip
    @Spawned-uy8ip 4 місяці тому +69

    The real reason being Rowling hadn't yet invented the ICW when she wrote the Harry Potter series. They could have easily stopped Voldemort. He wasn't an international threat with followers all around the world like Grindelwald. Just as she hadn't invented Thestrals before OOTP. Rowling was making new things up with each sequel.

    • @CallemJayNZ
      @CallemJayNZ 4 місяці тому +23

      The ICW was first mentioned in Philosophers Stone. It mentioned on the Chocolate Frog card of Albus Dumbledore that he was Supreme Mugwump of the ICW

    • @2102082
      @2102082 4 місяці тому +7

      Rowling has said before that she had already planned the Thestrals pulling the carriages from book 1

    • @Spawned-uy8ip
      @Spawned-uy8ip 4 місяці тому +10

      @@2102082 Suurree, she did. I'm the sort of person that takes writers for their word, even though most of the evidence says otherwise. That's why I believe her when she said she'd had it all planned out (even the Hallows) from day one 😁

    • @Spawned-uy8ip
      @Spawned-uy8ip 4 місяці тому +6

      @@CallemJayNZ But it didn't really flesh out tis functions or how it operated. We had no idea the ICW was that large or if it was capable of taking out Voldemort. And we didn't hear much about it after that one time, other than Dumbledore had lost his position on the ICW. We didn't know if it had its own intercontinental agents that operate like Interpol. She still left a lot out. We only found out how the Chief Mugwump is selected in SoD.

    • @Business101HQ
      @Business101HQ 4 місяці тому +9

      @@Spawned-uy8ipAlright, we'll believe you, random man on the internet with his theory, as opposed to the actual author...
      Don't forgot the scribbles of Thestrals in her note books from before the first book released... oh but don't worry, I'm sure you have another theory I'm sure!!

  • @headstrongbachelor3152
    @headstrongbachelor3152 4 місяці тому +85

    Nothing in the books says that the first wizarding war only took place in UK. What the books do however says is that people worldwide did not dared to speak Voldemort's name. Voldemort have done something in the first wizarding war that shocked the whole world...

    • @triforceofcourage100
      @triforceofcourage100 4 місяці тому +20

      I would guess it probably had something to do with the mass death he caused. He had an entire lake filled with corpses just as a means of defense for his horcux.

    • @TommyP89
      @TommyP89 4 місяці тому +3

      Voldemort is like beetlejuice 😮

    • @johnt.inscrutable1545
      @johnt.inscrutable1545 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TommyP89 Voldemort! Voldemort! Volde…

    • @edselgreaves6503
      @edselgreaves6503 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@johnt.inscrutable1545 bless you for pressing the Post button before you "disappeared" with the Dark Mark floating above your house.

    • @zhumm1759
      @zhumm1759 3 місяці тому

      Or they knew of the taboo that was cast

  • @ShinAk1raSama
    @ShinAk1raSama 4 місяці тому +52

    I'm kinda confused as to why the first theory is cultural intolerance. I mean just for an immediate example: Japan has been known to look down upon other peoples, be it foreigner or not. The discrimination against the Ainu can be brought up. While we don't know exactly everything going on in each wizarding school, I'm much more willing to chalk it up to Rowling's not really knowing too much about other cultures and their own tumultuous histories.

    • @RandomGuy-lu1en
      @RandomGuy-lu1en 4 місяці тому +18

      the real reason is: Rowling is just a bad author and can't think outside of very small boxes

    • @mandongoose3472
      @mandongoose3472 4 місяці тому +14

      @@RandomGuy-lu1en Man in 7 books she created an entire universe. If she tried to tie up every single loose end she would have had to have written about 15 books and none of them would've been interesting because they'd just be about tying up loose ends. She's clearly not a bad author as even you who clearly does not like her works has had this video pop up in their reccomended and 1 billion pounds in net worth shows she captivated more than just 1 generation.

    • @RandomGuy-lu1en
      @RandomGuy-lu1en 4 місяці тому +3

      @@mandongoose3472 man every second sentence is a loose end in those books. It's just the illusion of creating a universe what she did. Random thoughts and ideas mashed together without any regard of plausibility.

    • @mandongoose3472
      @mandongoose3472 4 місяці тому +3

      @@RandomGuy-lu1en Every single sentance is a big exagerration. I know theres a few plot holes. The time turner in particular really derailed the story (personally its my biggest dislike) but even with that i disagree with your stance that she's a bad author

    • @triforceofcourage100
      @triforceofcourage100 4 місяці тому +7

      @@RandomGuy-lu1enshe’s not a bad writer you don’t create a franchise like Harry Potter by doing so. It’s just that her writing unlike something like Percy Jackson is not very future proofed. It’s easy to poke holes into it because there were actually fewer expectations for her considering the overanalysis community didn’t have the strength it did when she was writing.

  • @johanjonsson6504
    @johanjonsson6504 3 місяці тому +8

    Voldemort may have been more dangerous, but Grindelwald was by far a bigger threat. This is proof.

  • @victoriakidd-cromis1124
    @victoriakidd-cromis1124 4 місяці тому +23

    I'm sure that others have noticed the parallels between Voldemort and Hitler and the events leading up to and during WWII. I don't know if JKR did it on purpose or it happened simply because the aftermath of WWII is still being felt.

    • @OG-Morningspark
      @OG-Morningspark 4 місяці тому +7

      Its the same with Grindelwald.

    • @yucol5661
      @yucol5661 4 місяці тому +1

      It’s astonishing that she says she didn’t take any inspiration on ww2 or real life history. She might not be the best at writing children books, but the success just goes to show that sometimes you don’t need to be the best to be successful.

    • @InhabitantOfOddworld
      @InhabitantOfOddworld 3 місяці тому

      What parallels? One of them wasn't evil, and I ain't talking about the wizard...

  • @heylolp9
    @heylolp9 4 місяці тому +62

    I have this amusing thought of how different Harry's 4th year would have been if he'd actually be a hormonal teen and reacted with profanity filled frustration as soon as his name came out of the GoF
    Just a scene:
    Dumbledore catches the 4th slip "Harry Potter!"
    Harry "what the f--- can't I have a normal year for once?"
    * Entire Great Hall in confusion *
    Harry "All right what kind of Bullsh-- do I have to do that tries killing me this year?"
    He is a 14 year old just early hormonal teenager after all

    • @poppinjim5154
      @poppinjim5154 3 місяці тому +3

      sounds like a you

    • @ANALfistingSADNESSsadness
      @ANALfistingSADNESSsadness 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@poppinjim5154 sounds like somebody thinks about hormonal 14 year olds more than others

    • @poppinjim5154
      @poppinjim5154 2 місяці тому

      @@ANALfistingSADNESSsadness what do you mean?

    • @theyaden
      @theyaden 2 місяці тому

      @@poppinjim5154 Do you personally know the poster you are insulting to be aware if your statement is true it it just you taking an opportunity to take personal shots at an random individual on the internet?

    • @poppinjim5154
      @poppinjim5154 2 місяці тому +2

      @@theyaden no i do not know him. it just looks like hes projecting someone else unto harry

  • @bretdolan9013
    @bretdolan9013 4 місяці тому +12

    I think the severity of the war was suppressed by the Ministry and other magical governments. Foreign governments wouldn’t want to add fuel to the fire of any of their own supremest factions. The ministry would in addition want to suppress their own incompetence.

  • @mazerinthemage2395
    @mazerinthemage2395 4 місяці тому +76

    Britain: "Help! Someone is invading us, and threatening to convert our way of life to theirs!" Rest of the world: "Well, well, well..."

    • @ma.cannon2849
      @ma.cannon2849 2 місяці тому +4

      Ain’t no fun when the dark Lord got the gun

    • @ryanorielly5617
      @ryanorielly5617 2 місяці тому +2

      Great comment😂

    • @nooneinparticular5256
      @nooneinparticular5256 Місяць тому

      *uncle ruckus theme plays*

    • @AnnaBellaChannel
      @AnnaBellaChannel Місяць тому +3

      @@mazerinthemage2395 Ever heard of the ancient Roman conquest of Britain and the Norman Conquest in 1066 of England by an army made up of thousands of Norman, French, Flemish, and Breton troops, all led by the William Duke of Normandy. Later William I King of England. Commanly Known as William the Conqueror of England.

  • @PlagueOfGripes
    @PlagueOfGripes 4 місяці тому +6

    Magical Britain in the books does seem like it has an issue with both "out of sight, out of mind" and "we've always done it thus." The sorting system in the school is horrible but simply how it has been, and they can't break tradition. When something bad happens, it's also preferred to ignore it or push it out of sight. I imagine other nations are simply aware that it's a national issue they helped to create and now it's theirs to fix.

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 2 місяці тому +4

      I've been saying this exact same thing for years. The problem with the Harry Potter franchise for the most part is that when it mentions "The Wizarding World," for the most part, in that particular context, they're talking about Great Britain's magical community.
      Even though there is a Department of International Magical Cooperation in each Ministry of magic, it's still made rather clear that there is very much a "them and us" mentality when it comes to witches and wizards who come from different cultures. For example, when Viktor was explaining what his school's castle is like, he's very quickly cut off by Karkaroff, who doesn't want a British person knowing too much about the layout of their home castle.

  • @NativeTXn1AIArt
    @NativeTXn1AIArt 4 місяці тому +20

    Didn’t they say the Muggle British Prime Minister was made aware of Voldemort? Wouldn’t he have warned neighboring and allied countries of the threat of a dark wizard that could not die?
    Also the death eaters attacked the bridge in London causing damages and injuries to muggles. At that point they stopped hiding and it was known what was going on, at least within London, Ireland, etc…
    If we are to go with the theory in the video that the Chinese wizards would have agreed with Voldemort, it’s safe to assume that the United States wizards would not have. Especially with the priority placed on secrecy from the muggles in both film and book by the Americans. Not to mention how closely the American Ministry worked with the British one for Gryndewald.
    Personally I think the corruption in local government (similar to the Chernobyl explosion and Russian corruption) and efforts to keep it secret is what did them in. They lied to their own people, lying to other nations would have come naturally, just for the sake of appearances and the DE’s took advantage of that.

    • @davidcopeland5450
      @davidcopeland5450 4 місяці тому +3

      I think the premise as a whole that the magical community in the United States wouldn’t have agreed with Voldemort is perhaps a bit complicated and maybe not entirely true. You have to remember that unlike in muggle society, the US was rather isolationist through well into the 1960s, thanks to the existence of Rappaport’s Law that in principle completely segregated the wizarding community in the States from muggles/no-majs, barring very few exceptions. Even when they were involved in helping the British and ICW in apprehending Grindelwald before his escape, it was more so out of lucky chance with it coinciding with the chaos and destruction Credence/Aurelis was causing around New York in his obscurial form; all while trying to prevent its nation’s magical community from being exposed. HP only takes place a mere 25-30+ years after the law was repealed and I think, if anything, MACUSA would still have taken a rather non-interventionalist approach (perhaps at most provide temporary or permanent refuge to British wizards and witches fleeing from either or both Wizarding Wars) and I think there still could be some degree of influence or support Voldemort could’ve gotten from across the Atlantic, even though I suspect not nearly to the level of what happened during Grindelwald’s rise and waves of terror.

    • @chadgosier4999
      @chadgosier4999 4 місяці тому +3

      I think the reason for Voldemort’s slow world domination plan is because number one he didn’t have enough followers to take on a nation two wizards already lost to muggles he would need to expand his influence to all other nations which would of took time

  • @kestrelwings
    @kestrelwings 4 місяці тому +28

    The tri-wizard tournament suggested to me that the number of wizard countries was a great deal smaller than the number of muggle countries. If there were many wizard countries and schools, one would expect a twenty-wizard tournament. Wizard population is too small to support many prisons. Evil wizards are in Slytherin, but why did the sorting hat put them there? Why didn't people avoiding Voldemort move to other countries?

    • @untitled6391
      @untitled6391 4 місяці тому +14

      " If there were many wizard countries and schools, one would expect a twenty-wizard tournament."
      Why though? It's a tournament created by those three schools for themselves. It's not supposed to be a global event like the Quiddich WC. And even Quiddich, like real world sports, wouldn't be prominent in all countries. Brooms are likely popular only in the Western world. It's not hard to imagine some flying carpet sport WC.

    • @joeortner8672
      @joeortner8672 4 місяці тому

      @@untitled6391 Never understood why Ireland had the team not England or Scotland.

    • @Alduinhead
      @Alduinhead 4 місяці тому +4

      @joeortner8672 Goblet of Fire, Weasleys' Wizars Wheezes: "I wish England had got through, though. That was embarrasing, that was... went down to Transylvania, 390-10... And Wales lost to Uganda, and Scotland were slaughtered by Luxembourg."

    • @davidcopeland5450
      @davidcopeland5450 4 місяці тому

      @@joeortner8672 they did. It’s just that the British national quidditch teams (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales) usually performed poorly at the QWC and never saw success to the same degree other national teams did.

    • @davidcopeland5450
      @davidcopeland5450 4 місяці тому +1

      @@untitled6391 it’s actually mentioned in Quidditch through the Ages as an example that while India does have a national quidditch team, it doesn’t enjoy the same level of populartiy as in other places and brooms are not a common sight; flying carpets are the usual method of magical travel. I’d like to think this is probably true too within other magical communities like Turkey, much of the Middle East, and other areas of South Asia.

  • @quincyking010
    @quincyking010 4 місяці тому +16

    You missed a theory that i think is more of a possibility and far better explanation that since the story takes place in England would explain why we don't hear about other countries and would also explain why krum wasn't at the battle of hogwarts. The theory is that voldy had death eaters world wide and was already attacking them in the other countries. Other countries couldn't help because they were already fighting his forces

    • @NIXXUN
      @NIXXUN 20 днів тому

      yeah like the dwarves and elves fighting other flanking sauron forces somewhere else during the fight at gondor and mordor would be exacly the same explanation really

  • @TheMangoDeluxe
    @TheMangoDeluxe Місяць тому +4

    I think the *real* reason is that it's a children's book and JK didn't think about international politics.

  • @Butterwinkle
    @Butterwinkle Місяць тому +6

    The idea that Voldemort was a bigger threat than Grindelwald is just laughable. Riddle menaced a single island for a few decades. Grindelwald was an international threat.

    • @brainflash1
      @brainflash1 24 дні тому +1

      Only because he had the Wehrmacht behind him.

  • @IngusMalingus
    @IngusMalingus 4 місяці тому +11

    6:32 why Hogwarts? The reason for the 4 houses is only mentioned extensively throughout the series as being based on each founding member. But why would each founder specifically want a house in the first place? They each wanted their tutelage to be geared toward young wizards of certain qualities they preferred: courage, ambition, intelligence, and average.

    • @keandrebell-washington9904
      @keandrebell-washington9904 4 місяці тому +12

      Humility or loyalty would better fit Hufflepuff much more than "average".

    • @IngusMalingus
      @IngusMalingus 4 місяці тому +2

      @@keandrebell-washington9904 all Helga said was she will take the rest. So no exceptional qualities other than being wizards at all

    • @robtay1963
      @robtay1963 4 місяці тому +4

      I agree. In fact, here is the best answer. JK Rowland's first draft: Harry arrived at the Wizarding school of Hogwarts where everyone sat and talked together and were taught to care and love each other, and all the teachers cared equally for all the students and Harry lived happily Ever After: The End.
      JK scratching her head, "No too short"
      2nd draft: And Ron the boy Harry met on the train said "Slytherin, there is not a witch or wizard that went bad, that wasn't in Slytherin".
      Seven books later the end.
      Not much of a story minus conflict, school policy hadn't changed because the structure created the conflict that drove the plot. Simple.

  • @zechariahfay6531
    @zechariahfay6531 4 місяці тому +12

    But grindelwald was held in nurmengard castle when Azkaban was already a thing so saying all criminals were held in Azkaban is just wrong

    • @nicolasfuehrmann5477
      @nicolasfuehrmann5477 4 місяці тому +5

      Grindelwald was austrian and therefore was held in a prisson in his country of origin and not in the british one

  • @RayAkuma
    @RayAkuma 4 місяці тому +16

    Ron:
    ,,There's never been a wizard that's gone bad that wasn't in slytherin"
    Peter Pettigrew, a Griffindor:

    • @markuhler2664
      @markuhler2664 3 місяці тому +5

      Yeah, but do you really trust Ron to give an accurate or impartial opinion?

    • @KitsyX
      @KitsyX 3 місяці тому +4

      Technically they didn't know about him at the time... That said, Sirius was supposed to have been bad and he was in Gryffindor... So that doesn't really make much difference...
      ... To be fair, he was still mostly right though lol.

    • @rippersubmissionwrestling2704
      @rippersubmissionwrestling2704 3 місяці тому +2

      Um I can name one Slytherin that wasn't evil. Merlin in Harry Potter lore was a Slytherin and you never heard him spoken in a negative way!
      He literally has an order named after him for Wizarding excellence "The order of Merlin".

    • @RayAkuma
      @RayAkuma 3 місяці тому +1

      @@rippersubmissionwrestling2704 i can name more but i think you misunderstand. That sentence doesn't say every slitherin is evil but the way it's phrased it says that every wizard that turned bad was a slitherin. So no Griffindor Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff that turned bad which i pointed out is wrong.

    • @JuanPerez-bc5kx
      @JuanPerez-bc5kx 2 місяці тому +1

      Barty Couch Jr: 🤫

  • @Devilkingliebe
    @Devilkingliebe 4 місяці тому +16

    It would be too easy. All they would need is one muggle born american wizard soldier to end the war and that would be boring.
    "Great, we need an army and the yankees send one guy with a weird looking wand"
    "Sir, this isn't a wand. This here is a 50cal anti material rifle with armor piercing rounds. Just get me withing 2 miles of this Volleyballmort person and look away unless you want brain matter splatter on your face "

    • @MoxxoM
      @MoxxoM 4 місяці тому

      Lol, in your dreams.

  • @OG-Morningspark
    @OG-Morningspark 4 місяці тому +13

    love your videos, so plot hole with the Azkaban’s too harsh theory. Erkstag was waaaaaaay worse (the German prison Theseus Scamander was thrown in).

  • @pavelslama5543
    @pavelslama5543 4 місяці тому +6

    1) We must enter this discussion from the realistic perspective - that we put more thought into it than the original author did.
    2) If other countries liked Voldemort, we must assume that the other countries (even muggles) are secretly ruled by wizards.
    3) If other countries looked down on British wizarding community, we must assume that their own communities are any better. Which they certainly have no reason to be. Britain is realistically one of the most tolerant places on Earth, and relative to the respective period in history, one may say that it had always been.

  • @karlbergen6826
    @karlbergen6826 4 місяці тому +7

    I wonder what would happen if Voldemort attached the United States especially if he attacked Muggle or engaged the Muggle army. I think he would have needed another new body after military weapons deprived him of his body.

    • @jhsalem5480
      @jhsalem5480 2 місяці тому

      He wouldn't do it openly. He would do it like they did to the Ministry of Magic, using curses to bring powerful military leaders under his control or killing those who resisted. He would install puppets in high places over time and try to bring it under his control from within rather than blindly attacking military bases and nuclear weapons depots

    • @drzoidberg71
      @drzoidberg71 Місяць тому

      wizards can shield against that kind of stuff, and if a nuke is coming, all he has to do is disapparate away. What exactly do you think the military is going to do against someone who can do all that stuff?

    • @Jack-4v
      @Jack-4v 25 днів тому

      ​@@drzoidberg71yes but when you have the world after you thar very little places you can hide a wizard is not immune to bullets i sniper or a 50 cal can do the job

  • @bogantofan2420
    @bogantofan2420 4 місяці тому +6

    Considering some foreign schools don't even allow muggleborn and to teach, and how MCUSA is described in Harry Potter films the idea the Magical Britain was a backward place doesn't make sense.

  • @AlexanderNigbor
    @AlexanderNigbor 4 місяці тому +9

    could be that the british ministry of magic never asked for help in the first place

  • @warrencarey5972
    @warrencarey5972 4 місяці тому +17

    I feel like Britain being too backwards for other nations to care is the theory I’m going. Even if Voldemort took over Britain, it would take a substantial amount of time to prepare for the take over of other nations. I’m basing this on that Voldemort killed Harry so he’d most like only have Nagini as his last horcrux making him extremely vulnerable, his sanity is out of whack too so trying to forcefully subjugate other nations to me just seems an impossible task unless he’s done ample amount of preparations, which could take years if not decades to do.

  • @paulgraf5746
    @paulgraf5746 26 днів тому +2

    It’s simple - they knew England had Dumbledore, most powerful wizard of the time who defeated Grindelwald personally. Other than that I think they underestimated Voldemort as they didn’t know about his Horcruxes and that he was (almost) on par with Dumbledore

  • @johnpotts8308
    @johnpotts8308 4 місяці тому +39

    Allowing a dictator to take over a foreign country when you could intervene but choosing not to sounds like the most plausible thing JKR wrote!

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt 2 місяці тому

      The real most possible thing would be deliberately equipping and enabling the dictator, and then trying to stop people from preventing the dictator and ending their crimes.

  • @cholatepnabangchang4834
    @cholatepnabangchang4834 3 місяці тому +4

    Nah, it's because Voldy is a small-time criminal who could not even take over a school.

  • @devilsorchard1449
    @devilsorchard1449 Місяць тому +2

    Because it was effectively a civil war contained within the British wizarding world. Most wouldn't be too keen to send people to fight if they didn't have to.

  • @astrealove2247
    @astrealove2247 6 днів тому

    The first Wizarding War in the 70's & 80's have a good explanation, the Cold War was still going on during that period, meaning tension was already high between countries.
    The second Wizarding War, was less of a war and more of a skirmish.

  • @brileyford5856
    @brileyford5856 4 місяці тому +10

    Can you explain why Voldemort never broke the statute of secrecy in his long reign?

    • @TGPDrunknHick
      @TGPDrunknHick 4 місяці тому +4

      he probably didn't leave survivors I'd guess.

    • @zhumm1759
      @zhumm1759 3 місяці тому +2

      Because voldemort while mentally challenged from Having his soul split so many times knew the muggles could destroy the magical world with their weapons and they outnumbered magicals. He grew up during ww2 so he should know the danger muggles present as a whole.

    • @Atomsk2
      @Atomsk2 2 місяці тому +4

      Imagine you’re fighting a war against people who also have to swing a wand and that the only people who can challenge you and your elite soldiers are people who have trained in magical offensive and defensive techniques like you have for suitable amounts of time.
      Now imagine upsetting people who can only use guns to fight back - guns that can be placed in the hands of anyone with little to no training and suddenly that person is just as much a threat to you as any highly trained wizard.
      Wizards never used guns because they felt themselves superior to muggle technology, but a chest full of bullets was just as lethal to them as it is to muggles. 98% of all the magic cast still needed wand movements, movements that are much slower than the traveling speed of a bullet. What’s worse, their offensive spells don’t even seem to travel at crazy speeds since the person being targeted has time to respond to the incoming attack like in a fencing duel, even at incredibly close range. So if a wizard were faced with a soldier it would in fact end up in a draw at worst, as the wizard casts their spell and the soldier has time enough to raise their weapon and hip fire at close range, at 20-30 feet that soldier has time to aim and fire.
      Bring in normal engagement tactics and you have soldiers only moving when they have clearance to do so, taking proper cover, and never being over exposed vs wizards who stand in the middle of an open field as if they’ve never heard the word cover. Wizards knew they were better - but also knew their magic wasn’t invincible and that messing with a much larger army that needed much less training to be effective was a dumb move - even for an evil wizard

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 2 місяці тому +2

      Because it isn't smart to find a war on two fronts. He hadn't even established supremacy in his own backyard.

  • @AnnaBellaChannel
    @AnnaBellaChannel Місяць тому +1

    Tom Riddle had travelled globally in his young adulthood and had made a lot of international connections with wizards and witches the world over. Lord Voldemort had to just take over Britain and the rest of the world would have fallen into his hands.
    Dumbledore to Harry: “He disappeared after leaving the school … traveled far and wide … sank so deeply into the Dark Arts, consorted with the very worst of our kind, underwent so many dangerous, magical transformations, that when he resurfaced as Lord Voldemort, he was barely recognizable.” (Chamber Secrets Chapter 18)

  • @chilogutierrez695
    @chilogutierrez695 Місяць тому +3

    Honestly Voldemort was a terrible villian.... He was portrayed as a one trick pony with the killing curse in the films. I hope the upcoming TV show focuses more on voldemort and for example the fight in the ministry of magic vs Dumbledore

  • @camerongunn7906
    @camerongunn7906 4 місяці тому +19

    Simple answer. The same reason we shouldn't interfere in domestic politics. Yes I'm talking about all the ones that are currently relevant.

    • @CallemJayNZ
      @CallemJayNZ 4 місяці тому

      So Hitler and the Nazi regime should have been left to do what they were doing without foreign intervention?

    • @youngmoneyclutch
      @youngmoneyclutch 4 місяці тому

      amen

    • @iris.holmes
      @iris.holmes 4 місяці тому

      Are you saying no one should intervene to help civilian populations fight against invaders like Ukraine against Russia, or let them starve like Palestinians, or let them be kidnapped and raped by terrorists in the Sahel region? Interventionism has not prouved always helpful (ahem, literally the whole record of US-Latin America relations) yet standing by looking at innocents suffering is not a great option either...

  • @Fendi106
    @Fendi106 4 місяці тому +26

    I don't think Voldy would be able to conquer the world even if he killed harry....anybody else?

    • @RAWDEAL064
      @RAWDEAL064 2 місяці тому +3

      As a tactician, no. Sheer power and brutality? Yes. Especially as he started learning other magic as he conquered foreign lands.
      I think he'd initially hit a wall until he either: became a better strategist or tactician or got a death eater who had those talents and put him in charge

    • @claytonhess5512
      @claytonhess5512 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@RAWDEAL064His ego would not allow either.

    • @RAWDEAL064
      @RAWDEAL064 Місяць тому +1

      @@claytonhess5512 valid. And even if he did, he'd eventually shoot himself in the foot and kill the death eater when it's the worst possible time to do so

  • @P-C-Principle
    @P-C-Principle 4 місяці тому +1

    In my all honest opinion, out of every wizarding world UA-camr. This channel consistently puts out videos that addresses the questions I've had about the series and greater lore as a whole. Keep up the great work!
    I love the corruption theory. That really makes a lot of sense when looking at the bigger picture of conflicts in the Wizarding World

  • @James-gc5if
    @James-gc5if Місяць тому +2

    Some interesting ideas, but the script for this is like a student essay struggling to reach a word count.

  • @shadowalkerwho
    @shadowalkerwho 6 днів тому

    Given that the Secrecy Accord was such a huge deal I expect stepping in would've meant blowing that up as the moment outside support showed up Voldemort would have no reason to keep the fight quiet or conceal their use of magic from Muggles anymore.

  • @xavariusquest4603
    @xavariusquest4603 Місяць тому +2

    NONE OF THIS MAKE SENSE.
    1. The better question is why special forces weren't used. Paired with magic users, commando strike teams would shred the deatheaters. Consider that Mr Weasleys peers were astonished by toasters. A few hypersonic missiles, a rail gun or two, or a backpack nuke in the right places would eliminate all his minions in a few coordinated strikes.
    Remember, Volde was already attacking London outright.
    2. We actually don't know if they were assisting....on both sides. There are clear references to community members of diverse backgrounds working for both sides.
    REMEMBER THAT SEVERAL NATIONS DID HELP IN THE FIRST WAR.
    3. The wizarding community was forced into two wars because of the evil of two individuals. Both were known to have been evil and were left to their own devices. Grindelwald could have been stopped long before his reign of terror. He was not.... because, if we are to believe this stupidity, Dumbledore lost control of his "wand of power".
    And Dumbledore could have stopped Tom Riddle.
    All of this.....BOTH WARS....ARE DUMBLEDORES FAULT.
    NO WONDER HE WAS NEVER THE MINISTER OF MAGIC.

  • @bonecanoe86
    @bonecanoe86 Місяць тому +1

    I'm actually completely fine that Rowling kept the story contained to Britain. Harry Potter is already a sprawling story with tons of characters and complex worldbuilding; trying to factor in other nations would make it just go completely off the rails. It is wise to write what you know, and Rowling knew Britain, her home country. She knows the culture and mannerisms of her home like no other place and the further she steps away from that the more awkward it gets.

  • @George-Hawthorne
    @George-Hawthorne Місяць тому +1

    Two reasons why the world didn't help out in the 2nd War
    1) They likely thought that a dark wizard that gets beaten by a one year old can't be that much of the threat.
    2) While there were a few Europeans in his ranks, the majority of his supporters were Brits, so they likely considered this a national problem rather than an international one.
    Let's be honest, despite what they say Voldemort can't hold a candle to Grindelwald.

  • @flukeditgaming
    @flukeditgaming 5 днів тому

    My head-canon at this point is that I assume that any other magical countries would have been aware of the situation and were preparing to either help or at least strengthening their own borders, however because Voldemort and the Death Eaters were specifically focused on Britain and Harry, they felt they had time, and then it ended up getting resolved before anybody ended actually getting involved, at least openly.

  • @th3worldofstatistics
    @th3worldofstatistics 4 місяці тому +5

    Thank you so much for doing this video. I´ve been wondering about that for such a long time.

  • @Ehrenhaider_Akainu
    @Ehrenhaider_Akainu 4 місяці тому +33

    Hey i would like to know why its so special to beat trolls, giants or dragons or other creatures if you can just throw a avada kedavra at them?
    Edit: i know these creatures are spell resistent but lets be serious how would they resist Avada Kedavra???

    • @victor_gators
      @victor_gators 4 місяці тому +11

      And be taken to Azkaban for the rest of your life immediately after?

    • @FrostDJakki3529
      @FrostDJakki3529 4 місяці тому +21

      Not everyone can use Avada Kedavra it's not a spell normal Wizards and witches use regularly

    • @Ehrenhaider_Akainu
      @Ehrenhaider_Akainu 4 місяці тому +3

      @@victor_gators no thats only if you use it on other humans

    • @Ehrenhaider_Akainu
      @Ehrenhaider_Akainu 4 місяці тому +13

      @@FrostDJakki3529 everyone can use it lol you just have to have the intend to kill

    • @KantiDTM
      @KantiDTM 4 місяці тому +6

      Nah I don't think Hogwarts legacy was lore accurate when they allowed that.

  • @sterlingdennett
    @sterlingdennett 4 місяці тому +6

    Since Voldemort's full plan (after completely conquering the UK) was to rule the world, openly subjugating muggles and treating them like animals, and even hunting them for sport, it's safe to say the rest of the Wizarding World would have gotten involved eventually.
    But, had Voldemort succeeded in destroying all British resistance (and had he fully been able to wield the Elder Wand), he may have been too powerful to stop at that point.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 2 місяці тому +1

      The elder wand couldn't save him from a bunch of foreign aurors, disaperating all around him and then shanking him with a weapon coated in a magical creature's venom(or whatever else is poisonous).

  • @Nick-zp3ub
    @Nick-zp3ub 4 місяці тому +5

    Some of the other countries might be even more intolerant of mudbloods than Voldy and his death eaters. They might have approved of him taking over the ministry

  • @joshforsyth2231
    @joshforsyth2231 4 місяці тому +3

    This reminds me of my college lit classes where the profs always wanted some deep meaning behind the simple words a writer had written. I always said why can’t it just be what they wrote? Unless we have a quote from them saying otherwise, we’re just making stuff up…
    It’s the same here- the simple answer to this question is because JK Rowling wasn’t thinking about the wizarding world on the world stage when she wrote the books. She was writing about a school in Britain that had issues with a local villain. Trying to go 5 layers deep into why no other countries were involved seems like a waste of breath when the answer is that the author wasn’t worried about exploring the rest of the world in her created universe. She wanted a story about British wizards in Britain, and that’s what she wrote. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @sjxt1556
    @sjxt1556 4 місяці тому +2

    I was wondering why everyone seems to assume the rest of the wizarding world was all hunky dory and ONLY britain has these problems. Who’s to say wizarding Rwanda isnt actively involved in a genocide during the goblet of fire (just like irl) and nobody mentions it because the kids are busy with British things…just like British 14 year olds mostly would have done in the 90’s IRL. I’m glad you took a moment to point out that just like our world, for all it’s problem wizarding Britain may absolutely be one of the best and most tolerant places to live in the world. I personally take the “it’s a civil war not an International matter” theory.

  • @davidcopeland5450
    @davidcopeland5450 4 місяці тому +2

    I'd like to think that aside from Voldemort being largely a domestic threat within the UK that there were probably a good deal of countries, at minimum their wizarding governments, who either supported or at least sympathized with Voldemort's ideas, beliefs, and principles. Not necessarily homogenous societies, but countries and parts of the world where, even on the Muggle side of things, nationalistic fervor and sentiment remains strong or plays a significant role within these societies. China, India, Japan, Poland, and Russia might've been examples of such countries where this could've been true and otherwise where mixing of magical blood could've been at minimum frowned upon, or at maximum have been encoded into their respective wizarding legal systems as illegal.

  • @jacobglenn4152
    @jacobglenn4152 2 дні тому

    I have a theory. So if I'm not mistaken, Rowling basically uses voldemort as a comparison to Hitler and the Nazis. Anyone who has studied Hitlers rise to power and the commencement of WW2 could probably understand why no other countries wanted to get involved with Voldemort at the time.
    With WW2 and Hitler, we must understand why appeasement was a popular form of diplomacy. WW1 had taken place and NOBODY wanted to be a part of a second Great war hence the appeasement policies employed by the allied powers.
    Similarly Gridalwalds war took place shortly before voldemorts rise to power. I'd imagine other countries wanted nothing like that to happen to them seeing what happened last time. Almost every country in the 20s and 30s where pretty isolationist at the time and didn't start fighting until the Nazis came knocking.
    This is likely the reason no other countries aided Britain at the time of voldemort. They saw what happened during Grindelwald and wanted no such thing to happen again so they naively didn't get involved. Luckily for them voldemorts reign did not extend to the other countries

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc663 4 місяці тому +1

    I always thought the 4th book was foreshadowing the assistance or hindrance of other wizarding countries. One of those chekof guns that never ended up being fired.

  • @Srinidhi00726
    @Srinidhi00726 4 місяці тому +2

    The founder of Ilvermony, descendant of Gaunts, married a Muggle in USA.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 2 місяці тому

      And her guardian killed her parents and tried to kill her for being too tolerant of muggles.

  • @AnnaBellaChannel
    @AnnaBellaChannel Місяць тому

    The International Statute of Wizarding Secrecy (also referred to as the International Code of Wizarding Secrecy[1] and commonly shortened to International Statute of Secrecy)[2] was a law in the wizarding world that was first signed in 1689,[2] then established officially in 1692.[3]
    The law was laid down by the International Confederation of Wizards to safeguard the wizarding community from Muggles and hide its presence from the world at large.

  • @michaelwhittaker5537
    @michaelwhittaker5537 Місяць тому

    IIRC Durmstrang doesn’t admit Muggleborns as students so the theory that Wizarding Britain is uniquely prejudiced compared to its neighbors doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.
    Krum also mentions that in his home country there are some people who still speak favorably about Gellert Grindelwald and proudly display his symbols.

  • @Mcmatthew99
    @Mcmatthew99 4 місяці тому +2

    From the POV of France, Britain was led by Minister Thicknesse, not Voldemort, and 'simply' implemented a series of authoritarian educational and judicial reforms. Anyone who spoke Voldemort's name would be found and disappeared, so his role behind the scenes was hidden.
    Voldemort was selfish: his primary goal was to make himself immortal, to explore the most extreme and unusual forms of magic, and to reshape the world in his image. That is, Voldemort foremost wanted unobstructed access to the Department of Mysteries, Hogwarts, and all other institutions of magical innovation. To wage a world war would have been a long term project.

  • @dragonninja3655
    @dragonninja3655 Місяць тому

    The other countries seem to look down on other magical creatures just as much though. The french headmistress still had to hide that she was half giant. We just don't see enough of other places to see how they act.

  • @shadowlinkfire
    @shadowlinkfire 2 дні тому

    Its not like Voldemort was only putting on his green light shows in Britain. He was strategically taking out prominent government figures all over the place and putting his advisors in their place. The dude is shown to be one of the most intelligent wizards and extremely good at strategy. No way he wasnt fighting a war with all of Europe all at once, and winning.

  • @jeremiahjones4443
    @jeremiahjones4443 4 місяці тому +3

    There wasn’t any magical oil in the UK, that’s why us Americans stayed out of it.

  • @whitehorsemilitia
    @whitehorsemilitia Місяць тому

    Grinderwald in my opinion was a more bigger threat than Tom Riddle. There is no comparison since one actually had international impact and exposure to non magical people (like in New York), I don't recall Voldemort being so open and exposing the wizarding world to muggles, focused more within the wizarding world.

  • @VictorienBietVieto
    @VictorienBietVieto Місяць тому

    Well… to be fair, Voldemort had full power for just ten months and one day (from August to May). It’s not like if politics always took their time before deciding to help people when they are not threatened themselves.

  • @RolyTroly64
    @RolyTroly64 4 місяці тому +7

    Name of background music??

  • @dennisonwant1808
    @dennisonwant1808 4 місяці тому +1

    Pure bloods come from muggle borns idc. If wizardry is a genetic abnormality and only appeared recently in humanity then it’s safe to assume the case is that all wizards are mutated regular humans that were born with spontaneous magical genetics. Muggleborns should be considered as something like “the beginning of a magical bloodline” that makes the most sense. That’s how I always regarded muggleborns.

    • @anvos658
      @anvos658 2 місяці тому

      Well keep in mind the wizarding world at least in the UK isn't big on science, so its easier to deny the obvious truth that all bloodlines were once muggle born, or some abnormality caused by muggles interacting with magical creatures over time.

  • @MolcanAnti
    @MolcanAnti 2 місяці тому

    What I find pretty strange in this context is that it is established in canon that Voldy was active in other regions of the world - possibly committing several crimes in Albania, the whole business with the Giants in "Eastern Europe" and the Death Eaters mob seemed to also involve non-British citizens - for example Karkaroff and Dolohov don't sound exactly British (interestingly enough Karkaroff was tried in Britain though)...but I can see why the 90s East Bloc would be portrayed as supporting Voldy (plus some of the folk tales and myths here are just bonkers).
    So maybe that could boil down to the ~1910 argument, that wizarding "blocs" were created and no one society wanted to do an overt act of interference, lest the wizarding world as a whole would blow up in a global conflict?

  • @woedendstewadpier4922
    @woedendstewadpier4922 2 місяці тому +1

    The most obvious reason is that the British magical government never asked for help. You cannot just sent law enforcement or the army into another country. It would be a deceleration of war. When Fudge was still the minister, he was way to preoccupation with his image. Scrimgeour might have thought about asking for help, but at that point is was basically to late already anyways. Also I am not sure if the minister of magic can just decide that, since they are technically still under the muggle prime minister. Because the wizards did barely inform the muggle prime minister of what is going on, the PM might not trust them enough to authorize foreign armies to come into the country.
    Also I had the feeling that it was never about the numbers anyways. Voldemort hat only a very limited number of death eaters compared to the law enforcement of the ministry. The problem was that they just got infiltrated, and therefore not efficient anymore. If there would be a foreign army, it would just get infiltrated as well and Voldemort would probably try to infiltrate the government of that country too.

  • @jacobsockness571
    @jacobsockness571 2 місяці тому +1

    I studied in a magical school; we kept out muggles for good reason too.

  • @slipstick985
    @slipstick985 3 місяці тому +1

    At the start of the 2nd Global War, the U.S. couldn't decide whether to side with Hitler or Stalin and tried appeasement. It took us a while to find out that wasn't going to work.

  • @TheMoosePad
    @TheMoosePad Місяць тому +3

    The books and movies always gave me the impression that Voldemort was never that big of a deal to begin with and the British where just making a mountain out of a mole hill like they usually do with every mild inconvenience. Sure the guy is a terrorist but if he wasn't taken seriously then he wouldn't have been more of a threat than the IRA was. It always felt that the British really just scared themselves into submission rather than really fight against Voldemort. They've been so pillaged and unchallenged for centuries that the second someone came along with even a bit of confidence they just rolled over so they wouldn't risk their privileges.

    • @asinine4636
      @asinine4636 12 днів тому

      Why are you projecting your own beliefs on a story written for children?

  • @The208boy
    @The208boy 4 місяці тому +1

    Ilvermorny does have houses, also in magical beasts we saw how France was involved with Grindelwald, so I think that each country might have had its own intolerance or internal problems and didn't want to open this can of worms by fighting another's battle

  • @aodhhanswtor7252
    @aodhhanswtor7252 4 місяці тому +2

    Remember how communication worked from the 60s through the late 90s. There was very limited use of email until the turn of the century. A letter from the USA to Europe took more than a week to arrive. The number of airline flights was far less. Information moved slowly by today's standards. People were also a lot less gullible and more skeptical. So news of a huge criminal wizard wasn't exactly headlines. Why? By the time information reached a far location, the actual event was over. Finally, It's likely every magical government deals with a malevolent wizard every now and then throughout history. With the size of the USA and Eastern Europe. You can count on them having to deal with a dark wizard quite often.

    • @OG-Morningspark
      @OG-Morningspark 4 місяці тому +1

      So muggle world news was always slowed by the rate info and people could travel. Instantenous travel across the world isn’t an issue in the Wizarding world ie. apparatition or portkey. You also had magical paintings that could pass messagesx

  • @andrewellisonlee
    @andrewellisonlee 2 місяці тому +1

    Voldimort: Avadakadabra!
    200 remaining Americans: cast gun.

  • @Larka661
    @Larka661 4 місяці тому +1

    In hindsight youd think the muggle world shouldve gotten involved. We obviously learn in the books that muggles knew about the wizarding world. Plus, muggles were in danger too.

  • @williamslater-vf5ym
    @williamslater-vf5ym 4 місяці тому +1

    The truth is brits are too polite to complain about whats going on. Nobody knew.

  • @The_New_IKB
    @The_New_IKB 4 місяці тому +1

    Wizarding Britain sounds like some turd hole in the Bulkans!

  • @AlphaFromBeta
    @AlphaFromBeta 9 днів тому

    just imagine voldemort seeing 50000 pouds of pure freedom falling on his head

  • @deltasixgaming
    @deltasixgaming Місяць тому

    Smaller more Isolated Fights are Easier to Cover rather then Multiple countries sending more People making the Fight Bigger and Harder to Cover Up from the Muggles

  • @baystated
    @baystated 4 місяці тому +2

    Some hard British-centric-storytelling hard truths here for the WW to swallow.

  • @mandalor-8315
    @mandalor-8315 4 місяці тому +1

    Voldaermort didn't want smoke with the Americans

  • @lukethegoldenminecart1297
    @lukethegoldenminecart1297 19 днів тому

    I like to think the international magical community is not as cooperative as their muggle counterparts. Basically, they all kept to themselves for the most part. So, Britian's problem with Voldemort was simply to the international wizarding community, a British problem. It's not a French problem, not a German problem, not an American problem, just a British problem.

  • @Higsby100
    @Higsby100 Місяць тому +3

    2:00 no one likes Britain 😂

  • @dontworry5909
    @dontworry5909 2 місяці тому +1

    Why is Britain's magical world basically the American Muggle world??? 😂
    Slytherin as the south: we shall rule again
    Rest of the world: 👀 what's wrong with those guys

  • @Toonwalla2010
    @Toonwalla2010 3 місяці тому

    I think the reason other countries did not intervene directly in the Second Wizarding War was because Voldemort was only operating within Great Britain and thus was considered a "local" problem. While his dream was world domination, he wanted to achieve this by way of focussing all his forces on conquering one area before branching out. So while he was a threat that they would prepare for, they weren't going to take action until he openly threatened them. Also big thing to note, Voldemort does not know how to love or how to inspire love. He only understands fear, intimidation and aggression, which can only take you so far in gathering loyal followers to his cause. Grindelwald on the other hand, did understand love and knew how to inspire it in others which made him a much bigger international threat because his strategy involved him spreading seeds of discord and political unrest across many countries and then uniting these cells under his banner with the promise of benevolence and acceptance.