Great video for me to watch tonight. My Polestar 2 RWD is booked on the morning ferry on a flatbed truck to be delivered to my door! I can’t wait for my first EV. We don’t have snow here but we do have the beach, but I’m very happy with 300 horses on the back wheels and wanted a highway and windy roads cruiser.
I went from a FWD KIA Niro EV to a Heavier RWD KIA EV6. Going up snowy hills I feel the RWD EV6 is more shure footed and slips less. I contribute that to there being more weight over the back wheels going up a hill and a more advanced and refined throttle and slip control / ESP.
Kris, I tend to agree with you on the FWD vs RWD issue. Leaving ICE out of the equation, FWD does have the advantage of steerable driving force. I feel manufacturers are pushing RWD EVs to save on costs involved with FWD.
I'm glad you noted the advantage of being able to turn the driving wheels. That seems to routinely get glossed over in these discussions, but I've used that to get unstuck multiple times in gas cars. Sometimes the weight isn't the issue, it's the thick lumpy snow piles that you need to maneuver out of.
AWD isn't all that useful in the snow. It's good if you get stuck (which is rare), and for straight line acceleration, but it does nothing for braking and it can be bad for stability. I had a Subaru for a while in Canada and it was stressful in blizard conditions because you had to constantly correct the steering as traction shifted. By comparison FWD cars are more relaxing because they maintain direction as road conditions shift. Also, the cars and SUVs you see in the ditch are almost aleays AWD. Maybe that's caused by over-confidence, maybe it's because traction changed and the car suddenly went in a different direction.
@@bernardrr AWD is extremely useful and much safer in rainy/wet conditions. Anybody who has any rain where they live should have AWD for better safety and control. In snow, it's the same issue -- slippery conditions. In 2-wheel-drive, my cars are always slipping in rainy/wet/lippery conditions, like heading into traffic from a stop sign (which is a LOT) -- and I'm talking about rain -- whereas in 4-wheel-drive or AWD, that just does not happen.
@@MrRaitzi I agree that winter tires are more important than AWD generally. But most people don't invest in winter tires, sadly. AWD and all-season tires are better than just all-season tires in rain or snow.
@@cbatiau2528 That certainly hasn't been my experience. I live in a part of Canada that gets the worse of snow and rain, and I have driven many powerful FWD cars (as well as RWD ann AWD). I've only experienced that with cars that have bald or "no name" tyres.
Its nice to see this video for XC40 RWD. I had question in mind for bad weather conditions. So seems like its not valid for countries like Turkey. On the other hand I should note its not a comparison video of RWD and FWD. Better to correct title.
@@h.ibrahim9333 merhaba ben aldım bir tane RWD. Gayet memnunum şu ana kadar. Tasarımı çok hoşuma gidiyor, konforuda iyi. Biraz geri görüş kamerası bana yetersiz geldi ama 360 iyi çalışıyor. Tek pedalda kademe ayarı olsaydı daha iyi idi sanki. Kablosuz şarj bölümüde çok derinde kalmış. Ama minör noktalar bunlar. Onun haricinde gayet başarılı gördüm. Pixel farlar çok iyi iş çıkarıyor. Konfor çok iyi. RWD daha az vergi çıkarıyor ve bana göre performansta yeterli.
What cars did you get that changed? I get Rover 75 FWD to V8 RWD 75 and MG ZT and FWD Triumph 1500 to RWD 1500TC and Toledo. I’m curious to see what else you’ve come up with?
Hei! Om du har tid og anledning å teste ID4 med bakhjulstrekk mot ID4 GTX tror jeg mange hadde synes det var nyttig 😊 Gjerne i en litt bratt bakke med snø/is etc 😅
Yes. But you are preconditioning a 500kg mass, so it takes some energy. At 2 Celsius, it took a half hour to properly warm the battery the other day. At colder temperatures it will use resistive heating, so it will draw quite a bit of electricity. Preconditioning makes a big difference to range.
Don’t get a lot of snow where I live in Scotland but what is the situation with regen if you have an adjustable system with different levels of regen? My car doesn’t officially have one pedal driving but I’ve learned to mimic it with the higher of the two regen levels - so high or low regen in snow or on slippery roads?
Hi Kris. It might be me but I hear you say "Rare wheel drive" when you refer to "Rear wheel drive". Just a friendly comment. Not meant to criticize!! Love your videos! Thanks! :)
Biggest advantage to the RWD is not in the snow, but in other situations where you get torque steer in the FWD. In snow, the options with FWD might help. The only time I ever got stuck in snow was with a FWD car, and I managed to park in a spot with snow that was enough to unload the front axle to the point I could not get enough traction to move the car. In the specific situation, RWD would have allowed me to pull out of the spot. However, more ground clearance would have also worked.
This video is a complete waste of time: an 11 min video, where the part that’s is promised by the title starts at min 9 and doesn’t compare anything is a complete lack of respect for your audience!
@@JohnAbrahamsen it's not usually an issue with snow tyres. I guess if you had a long very steep unplowed driveway, you might want AWD for nights when you just want to park the car prior to clearing snow, but hills aren't a problem otherwise.
@@bernardrr sure i have AWD and studded tires. But my experience in norway with fwd versus rwd cars, I must say RWD wins every time. It hooks much better when weight transfer inevitably happens to rear wheels. Especially so in deep snow.
It's not a question of "if you know how to drive"... If you get stuck in a snowbank after a big snowstorm, with a RWD you will stay there unless you use "traction aids" to get you out of trouble. With a FWD you can get out of this situation because you can direct the traction in multiple directions.
Well I have done research and conclusion is that reliability is horrid. Press cars with engine lights flashing and US magazine had xc90 plugin die before test even begun. Only idiots buy them now
You should have used FWD at the same conditions to justify the title of the video
Great video for me to watch tonight. My Polestar 2 RWD is booked on the morning ferry on a flatbed truck to be delivered to my door! I can’t wait for my first EV. We don’t have snow here but we do have the beach, but I’m very happy with 300 horses on the back wheels and wanted a highway and windy roads cruiser.
I went from a FWD KIA Niro EV to a Heavier RWD KIA EV6. Going up snowy hills I feel the RWD EV6 is more shure footed and slips less. I contribute that to there being more weight over the back wheels going up a hill and a more advanced and refined throttle and slip control / ESP.
I have been waiting soo long for this exact video 🙏🏻
I drove my XC 40 P8, in 40 cm new snow at my country house without any problem. It plowed its way like a tractor.
Looks competent and safe, which of course is the main thing!
Kris, I tend to agree with you on the FWD vs RWD issue. Leaving ICE out of the equation, FWD does have the advantage of steerable driving force. I feel manufacturers are pushing RWD EVs to save on costs involved with FWD.
Great!! Pleade test consumption in winter with the extended range rwd.
Can you make a video with a renault megane in winter, snowy conditions? It is one of the few front wheel drive electric cars
I'm glad you noted the advantage of being able to turn the driving wheels. That seems to routinely get glossed over in these discussions, but I've used that to get unstuck multiple times in gas cars. Sometimes the weight isn't the issue, it's the thick lumpy snow piles that you need to maneuver out of.
Why wouldn’t you get an AWD XC40 for snowy climates?
Unnecessary. Winter tires and everything works. I drive my Mustang GT year round.
AWD isn't all that useful in the snow. It's good if you get stuck (which is rare), and for straight line acceleration, but it does nothing for braking and it can be bad for stability.
I had a Subaru for a while in Canada and it was stressful in blizard conditions because you had to constantly correct the steering as traction shifted. By comparison FWD cars are more relaxing because they maintain direction as road conditions shift.
Also, the cars and SUVs you see in the ditch are almost aleays AWD. Maybe that's caused by over-confidence, maybe it's because traction changed and the car suddenly went in a different direction.
@@bernardrr AWD is extremely useful and much safer in rainy/wet conditions. Anybody who has any rain where they live should have AWD for better safety and control. In snow, it's the same issue -- slippery conditions. In 2-wheel-drive, my cars are always slipping in rainy/wet/lippery conditions, like heading into traffic from a stop sign (which is a LOT) -- and I'm talking about rain -- whereas in 4-wheel-drive or AWD, that just does not happen.
@@MrRaitzi I agree that winter tires are more important than AWD generally. But most people don't invest in winter tires, sadly. AWD and all-season tires are better than just all-season tires in rain or snow.
@@cbatiau2528 That certainly hasn't been my experience. I live in a part of Canada that gets the worse of snow and rain, and I have driven many powerful FWD cars (as well as RWD ann AWD). I've only experienced that with cars that have bald or "no name" tyres.
Its nice to see this video for XC40 RWD. I had question in mind for bad weather conditions. So seems like its not valid for countries like Turkey.
On the other hand I should note its not a comparison video of RWD and FWD. Better to correct title.
Yorumlarda Türk görmek ne güzel😅 bayadır xc40 ve c40 araştırıyorum Türkiyede fazla video yok yabancı kanallarda daha çok bilgi ve test var
@@h.ibrahim9333 merhaba ben aldım bir tane RWD. Gayet memnunum şu ana kadar. Tasarımı çok hoşuma gidiyor, konforuda iyi. Biraz geri görüş kamerası bana yetersiz geldi ama 360 iyi çalışıyor. Tek pedalda kademe ayarı olsaydı daha iyi idi sanki. Kablosuz şarj bölümüde çok derinde kalmış. Ama minör noktalar bunlar. Onun haricinde gayet başarılı gördüm. Pixel farlar çok iyi iş çıkarıyor. Konfor çok iyi. RWD daha az vergi çıkarıyor ve bana göre performansta yeterli.
@@tansutekin aldığınız araç son çıkan uzun menzil mi tansu bey
What cars did you get that changed? I get Rover 75 FWD to V8 RWD 75 and MG ZT and FWD Triumph 1500 to RWD 1500TC and Toledo. I’m curious to see what else you’ve come up with?
Hei! Om du har tid og anledning å teste ID4 med bakhjulstrekk mot ID4 GTX tror jeg mange hadde synes det var nyttig 😊 Gjerne i en litt bratt bakke med snø/is etc 😅
How deep was the snow in that parking lot?
Does preconditioning the cabin from the climate controls also precondition the battery?
Yes. But you are preconditioning a 500kg mass, so it takes some energy. At 2 Celsius, it took a half hour to properly warm the battery the other day. At colder temperatures it will use resistive heating, so it will draw quite a bit of electricity. Preconditioning makes a big difference to range.
Don’t get a lot of snow where I live in Scotland but what is the situation with regen if you have an adjustable system with different levels of regen? My car doesn’t officially have one pedal driving but I’ve learned to mimic it with the higher of the two regen levels - so high or low regen in snow or on slippery roads?
Elton does not support ABC Stations in Finland, ABC have a own app. They use kempower chargers.
Hi Kris. It might be me but I hear you say "Rare wheel drive" when you refer to "Rear wheel drive". Just a friendly comment. Not meant to criticize!! Love your videos! Thanks! :)
The one thing I don't like the XC40 is the Start/Stop function which cannot be turned off. This is the main reason why I did not buy this vehicle.
after reading the title i was expecting something more like "side by side" comparsion, not a talk. I fell for it i guess.
Oh Oh. I'm gonna be driving in Sweden and Norway next month ......
Biggest advantage to the RWD is not in the snow, but in other situations where you get torque steer in the FWD.
In snow, the options with FWD might help. The only time I ever got stuck in snow was with a FWD car, and I managed to park in a spot with snow that was enough to unload the front axle to the point I could not get enough traction to move the car. In the specific situation, RWD would have allowed me to pull out of the spot. However, more ground clearance would have also worked.
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its more and more common in U2b having people talk and saying so little.
This video is a complete waste of time: an 11 min video, where the part that’s is promised by the title starts at min 9 and doesn’t compare anything is a complete lack of respect for your audience!
I suddenly want to speak italian: QUATTRO!
RWD is best ofc. If you know how to drive. If you dont know how to drive then FWD is probably best in snow (for you).
If you know how to drive, you know how to use lift-throttle oversteer in FWD to corner faster than any RWD in the snow.
@@bernardrr yeah important when tracking im sure. What about when you need to get a up a small incline in the real world?
@@JohnAbrahamsen it's not usually an issue with snow tyres. I guess if you had a long very steep unplowed driveway, you might want AWD for nights when you just want to park the car prior to clearing snow, but hills aren't a problem otherwise.
@@bernardrr sure i have AWD and studded tires. But my experience in norway with fwd versus rwd cars, I must say RWD wins every time. It hooks much better when weight transfer inevitably happens to rear wheels. Especially so in deep snow.
It's not a question of "if you know how to drive"... If you get stuck in a snowbank after a big snowstorm, with a RWD you will stay there unless you use "traction aids" to get you out of trouble. With a FWD you can get out of this situation because you can direct the traction in multiple directions.
Will never stoop so low as to buy a Volvo, I'm swedish and I've worked for the damn company and there's nothing positive to say about them at all.
Well I have done research and conclusion is that reliability is horrid. Press cars with engine lights flashing and US magazine had xc90 plugin die before test even begun. Only idiots buy them now
you only got 42 thousand subs. stop acting like you got 42 million!