Thank you for NOT putting awful music over the film, I sailed on vessels just as old as that; we had 6 to a cabin. Your vessel is luxurious. The first Deepwater Trawler I sailed on was built in 1892, I joined her just before she went to the scrapyard. I think you will find out that the Cargo Winches were steam, and when she was re-engined, they put a compressor on and used Compressed air to power the cargo winches, not Electric, as you said, and windless used the same; you can see by the size of the pipes. She WAS lovely BUT I think you have an endless task. Good Luck.
I am a retired uk master mariner born in Sunderland where this ship was made. I remember seeing her coming for coal there were 2 Pompy ships built to service the Portsmouth power station but they went to other places as well.alas Sunderland is now totally devoid of shipbuilding and coal staithes great memories but not for today's clean society its a pity the ship couldn't be saved earlier to ease the restoration job
Hamen was in fairly good shape when it was sold, the years of being left behind in iddefjorden caused a tremendous amount of damage, the engine room was flooded when the back of the ship sank and a lot of vandalism occurred. Thankfully it was possible to save the ship when someone with the interest and persistence got their hands on it. I live too far away to go see what it looks like myself, but from photos it looks like it’s moving along well
Congratulation to this norvegian group for saving this very rare kind of ship. I use the word "Rare" because I am not even sure if there is any other such kind of coaster /collier in existence in Europe, even in the middle East. I am so happy she is saved that I would be ready to purchase the plans of this ship from your association if they existed. this would be a way to support your work. Taker care and best regards from Paris.
This is the only pompey still in existence, it’s sister ship was broken up long ago, if any other riveted collier ships from the 1940’s still exist is doubtful (I’ve never heard of any other ones), that hamen still exists is down to its former owner hans utkilen and his son axel that refused to sell the ship to the breakers and took care of it for years after it went out of service. it’s a majestic and unique ship and hopefully it will sail under its own power again someday.
Very glad to see a steel cargo ship of this era being restored, they are now almost as rare as wooden cargo ships of 19th century. Despite the huge size of the UK dry cargo fleet in 20th century, as far as I know not one has been preserved to recall the seafarers way of life.
Back when ships still had elegance.. and looked like ships ! Out in the Far East in the late 70s I could still see many ships still operating from a much earlier era.. beautiful lines, today we see either maritime wedding cakes full of retirees or car transporters looking like the box they were delivered in. Just occasionally, a ship that looks as a ship should look. I would dearly love to voyage on this ship, a seriously long voyage.. I would be out on the bridge wing with my sextant getting back into practice and standing watches with the crew using paper charts..
Thank you for an excellent video! So good to see a piece of maritime history now undergoing restoration, and I wish all those involved good luck, and good fortune.
I started work at 19 as a docker at the ports of Grimsby and Immingham in the UK . my very first ship to unload in 1973 was a ship just like this one ,her cargo was coal i seem to remmeber the forward hold had no tween deck just one big open hatch ang our crane grab was only able to lift 3 tons in its grab it took about 3 days to unload and very dusty work ,ive enjoyed your video and its brought back some very found memories , thank you for sharing .
My dad was a marine engineer starting his working life with The General Steam and Navigation Company where all the ships were named after birds of one kind or another. So there were ships such as The Drake, Gannet, Woodcock and Woodwren and when you see pictures of these ships it is remarkable that some of them sailed around the world especially the very smallest which were half the size of the Hamen. Thanks for the video I very much appreciate the look around as these ships seem very rare.
Jeg husker Hamen fra sommer 1985 da jeg kom först til Norge. Det var i Mo i Rana . Jeg var der pa Ms . Sandnes . Den var stadig í drift og seilte dagen efter tror jeg. Den sa fint ut . Jeg ville önske jeg havde kommed ombord . Mange tak .
I notice of that map she would travel up the Bristol Channel, I’m assuming to the Welsh ports for the coal… I wonder if she ever came to the power station at Portishead which is up the top part of channel near Avonmouth?
Thank you for the video. Did Pompey Power originally have derricks (booms) or were these added by the Norwegian owners. The British Electricity Board coal boats usually did not have cargo gear as they were loaded and discharged by shore equipment.
I wonder how much lighter in weight the ship is with her diesel engine package in comparison to her steam engine plant and what the difference in her speed was.
@@jamesgraham6122 the hull speed formula indicates it is able to move faster than shown in the published speed by quite a bit. And running the HP/torque conversion indicates she has a huge amount of low rpm torque so she can get a lot of push out of the propeller. That is why I asked if the lighter weight engine package made a difference in her speed. I would think that the weight savings might also had a revenue enhancement due to the additional payload capacity due to both weight savings, lower fuel cost and possibly smaller manpower requirements for operations of the diesel power plant vs boilers and steam engine.
As a resident of Portsmouth (Pompey) it’s interesting to see this ship which supplied coal to our local power station (now gone) but I’m shocked that someone considers it worth preserving. Please recycle it rather than return it to service for a job that no longer exists.😮
On the one hand you say it's interesting to see this ship and on the other, that it should be destroyed. Very few ships get a chance to be saved as an example of historic maritime engineering so why destroy one that has?
@@johngrantham8024 yes, it’s interesting to see an old ship, especially one with such a direct connection to where I live but it’s old, rusty and someone is spending money preserving it for no real purpose: there are loads of other ships around the word preserved for others to see too. The design is probably recorded somewhere (it was superseded/improved on years ago) so sometimes it is better to reuse the materials rather than occupy a berth for no benefit to humanity. Especially as the United States ship is about to be sunk as a reef, there must be a better way to benefit from this ship than forever raising money to keep it immobile in a dock.
@WidleyWesident oh my gosh ! I come from Sunderland, my family worked at this Shipyard where she was built , Portsmouth is my adopted city I cannot get my head around your points raised It's because she is an ordinary ship with a real history she should be saved as an example If people want to restore her , I say good luck , and thank you !
Huge respect for saving this beautiful classic little ship!
@@cosminogloocosy1154 Thanks!
@@magnushansen3 You're welcome.
Thank you for NOT putting awful music over the film, I sailed on vessels just as old as that; we had 6 to a cabin. Your vessel is luxurious.
The first Deepwater Trawler I sailed on was built in 1892, I joined her just before she went to the scrapyard. I think you will find out that the Cargo Winches were steam, and when she was re-engined, they put a compressor on and used Compressed air to power the cargo winches, not Electric, as you said, and windless used the same; you can see by the size of the pipes. She WAS lovely BUT I think you have an endless task. Good Luck.
Thanks! Do you have names on the vessels you saild on?
I am a retired uk master mariner born in Sunderland where this ship was made. I remember seeing her coming for coal there were 2 Pompy ships built to service the Portsmouth power station but they went to other places as well.alas Sunderland is now totally devoid of shipbuilding and coal staithes great memories but not for today's clean society its a pity the ship couldn't be saved earlier to ease the restoration job
Todays clean society…
Hamen was in fairly good shape when it was sold, the years of being left behind in iddefjorden caused a tremendous amount of damage, the engine room was flooded when the back of the ship sank and a lot of vandalism occurred. Thankfully it was possible to save the ship when someone with the interest and persistence got their hands on it.
I live too far away to go see what it looks like myself, but from photos it looks like it’s moving along well
Congratulation to this norvegian group for saving this very rare kind of ship. I use the word "Rare" because I am not even sure if there is any other such kind of coaster /collier in existence in Europe, even in the middle East. I am so happy she is saved that I would be ready to purchase the plans of this ship from your association if they existed. this would be a way to support your work. Taker care and best regards from Paris.
This is the only pompey still in existence, it’s sister ship was broken up long ago, if any other riveted collier ships from the 1940’s still exist is doubtful (I’ve never heard of any other ones), that hamen still exists is down to its former owner hans utkilen and his son axel that refused to sell the ship to the breakers and took care of it for years after it went out of service. it’s a majestic and unique ship and hopefully it will sail under its own power again someday.
@@Zhinix04 I am grateful to these owners who resisted the appeal of the cutting torch!
Very glad to see a steel cargo ship of this era being restored, they are now almost as rare as wooden cargo ships of 19th century. Despite the huge size of the UK dry cargo fleet in 20th century, as far as I know not one has been preserved to recall the seafarers way of life.
Back when ships still had elegance.. and looked like ships ! Out in the Far East in the late 70s I could still see many ships still operating from a much earlier era.. beautiful lines, today we see either maritime wedding cakes full of retirees or car transporters looking like the box they were delivered in. Just occasionally, a ship that looks as a ship should look. I would dearly love to voyage on this ship, a seriously long voyage.. I would be out on the bridge wing with my sextant getting back into practice and standing watches with the crew using paper charts..
Yes.
You would have to talk like Jack Hawkins and smoke a pipe too 😂
Thank you for an excellent video! So good to see a piece of maritime history now undergoing restoration, and I wish all those involved good luck, and good fortune.
I started work at 19 as a docker at the ports of Grimsby and Immingham in the UK . my very first ship to unload in 1973 was a ship just like this one ,her cargo was coal i seem to remmeber the forward hold had no tween deck just one big open hatch ang our crane grab was only able to lift 3 tons in its grab it took about 3 days to unload and very dusty work ,ive enjoyed your video and its brought back some very found memories , thank you for sharing .
@@georgethompson5192 It was two ships like this. Pompey Power and Pompey Light. Sisterships
My dad was a marine engineer starting his working life with The General Steam and Navigation Company where all the ships were named after birds of one kind or another. So there were ships such as The Drake, Gannet, Woodcock and Woodwren and when you see pictures of these ships it is remarkable that some of them sailed around the world especially the very smallest which were half the size of the Hamen. Thanks for the video I very much appreciate the look around as these ships seem very rare.
Vilket fantastiskt jobb ni gör!
Awesome
cool ship
Someone else scrolling directly to the engine room?
Jeg husker Hamen fra sommer 1985 da jeg kom först til Norge. Det var i Mo i Rana . Jeg var der pa Ms . Sandnes . Den var stadig í drift og seilte dagen efter tror jeg. Den sa fint ut . Jeg ville önske jeg havde kommed ombord . Mange tak .
Du er velkommen ombord nå :)
Enjoyable tour but hard to read in places.
I notice of that map she would travel up the Bristol Channel, I’m assuming to the Welsh ports for the coal… I wonder if she ever came to the power station at Portishead which is up the top part of channel near Avonmouth?
Thank you for the video. Did Pompey Power originally have derricks (booms) or were these added by the Norwegian owners. The British Electricity Board coal boats usually did not have cargo gear as they were loaded and discharged by shore equipment.
Hello. They was added later one when it came to Norway 👍
I wonder how much lighter in weight the ship is with her diesel engine package in comparison to her steam engine plant and what the difference in her speed was.
Not sure about that. I gues the speed was about the same
Speed is limited by hull waterline length.. can't vary much irrespective of horse-power
@@jamesgraham6122 the hull speed formula indicates it is able to move faster than shown in the published speed by quite a bit. And running the HP/torque conversion indicates she has a huge amount of low rpm torque so she can get a lot of push out of the propeller. That is why I asked if the lighter weight engine package made a difference in her speed. I would think that the weight savings might also had a revenue enhancement due to the additional payload capacity due to both weight savings, lower fuel cost and possibly smaller manpower requirements for operations of the diesel power plant vs boilers and steam engine.
Well call Chris Wilson, he just got rid of one.
where is "Hamen" now ?
@@fisherman-radio-show754 Bredalsholmen in Norway
@@magnushansen3 thank you
As a resident of Portsmouth (Pompey) it’s interesting to see this ship which supplied coal to our local power station (now gone) but I’m shocked that someone considers it worth preserving. Please recycle it rather than return it to service for a job that no longer exists.😮
On the one hand you say it's interesting to see this ship and on the other, that it should be destroyed.
Very few ships get a chance to be saved as an example of historic maritime engineering so why destroy one that has?
@@johngrantham8024 yes, it’s interesting to see an old ship, especially one with such a direct connection to where I live but it’s old, rusty and someone is spending money preserving it for no real purpose: there are loads of other ships around the word preserved for others to see too. The design is probably recorded somewhere (it was superseded/improved on years ago) so sometimes it is better to reuse the materials rather than occupy a berth for no benefit to humanity. Especially as the United States ship is about to be sunk as a reef, there must be a better way to benefit from this ship than forever raising money to keep it immobile in a dock.
@WidleyWesident oh my gosh ! I come from Sunderland, my family worked at this Shipyard where she was built ,
Portsmouth is my adopted city
I cannot get my head around your points raised
It's because she is an ordinary ship with a real history she should be saved as an example
If people want to restore her , I say good luck , and thank you !
Bodemloze put 😢niet aan beginnen!
Beter ten halve gekeerd dan ten hele gedwaald.
De arbeid welke dit kost ,is niet meer aanwezig.
nope! ik zie liever geld hier in getoke mn worden dan een modern schip!!
very old boats