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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024

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  • @seanthomxx2694
    @seanthomxx2694 Рік тому +5

    2 things:
    -as a Navy vet, I needed the date complications on my watches because it's easy to loose track of days on with a watch(duty) rotation.
    - best micro brand: Christopher Ward, quality watches, Bel Canto and their Loupe magazine.

  • @adamfenyves3972
    @adamfenyves3972 Рік тому +10

    I'm sorry to disagree, but power reserve on the caseback is the smartest of positioning - you don't need to know it during the day. You check it before you put the watch on your wrist and in exchange you can keep the dial clean and symmetrical.

    • @excention7338
      @excention7338 Рік тому

      Or you basically just wind it once you put on the watch. For me it’s the most useless thing ever. Doesn’t matter if on case back or dial.

    • @adamfenyves3972
      @adamfenyves3972 Рік тому +1

      @@excention7338 I am mainly referring to manual wind watches, not to automatic ones.

    • @excention7338
      @excention7338 Рік тому

      @@adamfenyves3972 That’s what I’m telling. You wind your watch every time you put it on. No need for a power reserve indicator.

    • @adamfenyves3972
      @adamfenyves3972 Рік тому +3

      @@excention7338 I prefer not to wind it unless it's necessary. I don't think you do good for the movement, but I also find it part of the experience to see it running for a long time with no manual intervention. But each to their own 😊
      Sidenote, to me the moonphase and the helium valve are way more useless features 😂

    • @excention7338
      @excention7338 Рік тому +1

      @@adamfenyves3972 touché 😂

  • @StefanoMaggio
    @StefanoMaggio Рік тому +1

    What a great format! Good job

  • @GrumblingForesight
    @GrumblingForesight Рік тому +6

    Enjoyed this a lot! Looking forward to see Thomas on the Fratello podcast. On a side note: best 1st date watch is always a Seiko. If she's into you without the fancy watches than you know she's worth it.

  • @swampThaang
    @swampThaang Рік тому +5

    Yacht Master has the worst if not the most douchy complication.

  • @the_shadow_realm5110
    @the_shadow_realm5110 Рік тому +3

    7:37 Damn, is it just me or is there some chemistry here?
    That was intense.

  • @underachievingwatchcollect1878

    Omega putting skeleton hands on a dive watch-worst hands down!

  • @northeastpsychos
    @northeastpsychos 10 місяців тому +1

    Some of my favorite complications were your worst. I love a (well executed) date window. I hate looking at my watch for the date only to realize it’s not there and having to pull out my phone. But I was flabbergasted when after saying a date window ruins a dial, to then hear that a power reserve belongs on the dail! I can’t make sense of that. No watch needs a power a reserve and it’s only kinda useful on a manual wind watch. You gotta take off the watch to wind it anyways so it’s no chore to take off the watch to look at the PR on the back.

  • @eddieg849
    @eddieg849 Рік тому +3

    I really enjoy the day date on my watch, he said you can see the day and date on your phone or computer ... you can also see the time on your phone and computer. If that's the case why do you need a watch?

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  Рік тому +1

      Fair point, but most people check the time a lot more than they check the date. So I'd personally rather have a dial that looks great all the time than a compromised dial design that's only useful on occasion. -Thomas

    • @eddieg849
      @eddieg849 Рік тому

      @@Chrono24Official point taken😉 I can accept that.

    • @matslundgren1632
      @matslundgren1632 Рік тому +2

      The main point for me to have a wrist watch is NOT to use my phone or computer for that 😂
      If I look at the phone there is missed calls, emails, youtube etc. Sometimes you just want to be an 80’s kid again.

  • @bonnystarks
    @bonnystarks Рік тому +1

    Ok nobody asked me but I am super bored,
    I agree with the date window, but it's also useful...
    I agree with the power reserve, but also on the dial, makes the dial too busy for nothing really useful
    Best rolex the Explorer II polar orange gmt hand
    Best microbrand Fraer watches
    Best to pick up girls, lol, they do not care about watches dude, but I'll say a watch that can open a conversation without saying you're a rich prick so... i'll take a Rolex oyster perpetual Mickey Mouse.
    Best Cartier, the Tortue Mono Poussoire salmon dial just amazing.
    Best Logo, breitling.
    Worst handset is for me the mercedes logo with no mercedes logo, so just a round shape. (yes Nivada Grenchen Antartic i'm looking at you).
    Best chrono, I do like the avigation big eye.
    Ok bye :)

  • @watchfan1655
    @watchfan1655 Рік тому +2

    Unpopular opinion, but I’ve never been a fan of the Tudor Snowflake. Loved the Donkey Kong reference lmao 😂

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H Рік тому +1

    More of these pls!! Great vid

  • @ItsNeverTooHot4Leather
    @ItsNeverTooHot4Leather Рік тому +3

    The reliability, robustness, and ease of servicing of Omega's 1861 movement was the difference between me purchasing the Speedmaster Professional over the Zenith El Primero. I think when asked, a lot of people will say that they chose the Speedmaster because it is an enduring watch that has stood the test of time over many decades.

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  Рік тому

      Well said!

    • @Nudel-nc1cp
      @Nudel-nc1cp Рік тому

      So what is the issue with El Primero? Are the never Zenith movements also not durable?

    • @ItsNeverTooHot4Leather
      @ItsNeverTooHot4Leather Рік тому

      @@Nudel-nc1cpFrom what I've gathered, the El Primero movement is, in general, a great movement. However, when I was considering my first luxury watch and comparing the Speedmaster's 1861 movement to the El Primero movement, it seemed as though the El Primero can be a bit fussy since it runs at a higher frequency of 36,000 bph (i.e. subject to more wear over time) compared to the 21,600 bph of the 1861. I also read that getting a watchmaker to service an El Primero would be much more expensive than servicing an 1861 movement.
      I'd bet that most people probably have no issues with their El Primero, but I would rather spend thousands of dollars on a movement that is extremely robust and easily serviceable by most watchmakers. If I had the choice of purchasing an 1861 caliber Speedmaster Pro or a 3861 Speedmaster Pro, I'd still go with the 1861. The fact that I can pop open my Speedmaster's caseback and regulate the 1861 movement (which cannot be easily done with Omega's proprietary 3861) is invaluable to me.

    • @fruitcakebunny
      @fruitcakebunny Рік тому

      Elprimero is great movement. Don’t take credit of it.

  • @joshn.5625
    @joshn.5625 Рік тому +1

    Agree - Tudor’s handset is just terrible. And it’s a very lazy feature as they just slap it on everything and call it “design language.” It works on the Pelagos line to a degree because of the square markers but it’s awful on the Black Bay series.

  • @vaclav_fejt
    @vaclav_fejt Рік тому

    I used to hate the Tudor hour hand, but then it grew on me. It's like a less antiquated variation on the Mercedes hands, and very tooly.
    On the other *hand,* I too dislike sword hands. Not just aesthetically, they're so bad they make the reading of time difficult for me. Worse than stick hands, which I quite like.

  • @JoeyJiggles
    @JoeyJiggles Рік тому +1

    I used to hate the snowflake too - but - it was designed with a purpose and that in itself is beautiful

  • @HRM.H
    @HRM.H Рік тому

    Horage and Sartory Billard have to be up there with top microbrands.

  • @BB-gl7zt
    @BB-gl7zt Рік тому +2

    Best micro brand is Lorier imo

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  Рік тому +1

      Their Zephyr and Gemini models are quite cool

    • @jacobkohler
      @jacobkohler Рік тому

      Agreed - and not just for their watch designs and execution. Their customer support is unparalleled and backstory is really unique (former teachers who moved to NYC and have their own watch brand).

  • @AndyAdventuring
    @AndyAdventuring 9 місяців тому

    Spoilers: Women don't care about your watch.

  • @platinum_knowledge
    @platinum_knowledge Рік тому

    Worst handset ever is on the Longines Hydroconquest.

  • @christianmotos
    @christianmotos Рік тому

    Not even a 6 o'clock date window, Tom? Also, Balazs is right about women are most probably aloof when it comes to watches, but those who know are best avoided cause they're going to be the type of girls that will be hard to maintain--financially. LOL!

  • @josips4281
    @josips4281 Рік тому +1

    Really great episode and content. Quality of the channel is growing rapidly. Well done! 👍

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  Рік тому

      Thanks! This was super fun to make (and more on the way too!)

  • @carlosned2564
    @carlosned2564 Рік тому

    What are you guys wearing

  • @albundy3929
    @albundy3929 10 місяців тому

    these need to be a 2 hours long

  • @axelr9378
    @axelr9378 Рік тому

    Worst complication : pulsometer on the back of the last jazzmaster face 2 face. It is a good technical watch why à pulsometer and why taking it off to see the other side.
    Best Rolex : Milgauss Blue Z for its originality, an excentric dial color and a spirit of "résistance" and because of it's outdated dusty magnetic field handling. Plus it doesn't have Mercedes hands. SkyDweller is good too.
    Best micro brand : Huge flight against Formex for its technology and Artya for the design. Formex is objectively the best.
    Best watch to pick chicks : Rolex Steel and Gold Datejust black dial diamond indexes for a sofisticated dressy and maybe too boring woman and at the same time slightly gold diggers
    Best Cartier : a brutal manly Santos 100 XL or Santos large model green dial for it's sublety color
    Best logo : Tudor has 2, à classy rose and a chevaleresque shield
    Worst hands : i did not like snowflake hand but it's a good feature on my root beer. Sword hands are not so cool indeed. But i don't like Mercedes hands.
    Best chronograph : spécial mention the Movado alta super sub sea Automatic, the last noble réf from à brand that has à huge history but lost itself. The best is, to me, Zénith chronomaster sport boutique édition with a full ceramic 3 colors bezel. More sophisticated colorful than à Daytona.
    It was a nice show, thanks à lot

  • @MattDapson
    @MattDapson Рік тому

    Very good discussion! Enjoyed it. Coming back

  • @arthurlegoat6120
    @arthurlegoat6120 Рік тому

    f91w in a playful color kills it

  • @WIS7802
    @WIS7802 Рік тому

    The speedmaster is the most advertised and overrated watch.

    • @davidr2802
      @davidr2802 Рік тому

      It is but is not a shock that a Fratello Fanbois was hyping it. You say one bad word about Omega on Fratello and the owner Robert Jan brings the wrath of god upon your head. Had to leave that cesspool.

  • @PapriceP
    @PapriceP Рік тому

    Cool video concept.

  • @excention7338
    @excention7338 Рік тому

    Great new Format! Really enjoyed this one

  • @Giovan_Nino
    @Giovan_Nino Рік тому

    The best..👍

  • @bennytudor5313
    @bennytudor5313 Рік тому

    Micro brand - BREW

    • @Chrono24Official
      @Chrono24Official  Рік тому +1

      Love BREW. They're really onto something with their Metric series

  • @POSUEN
    @POSUEN Рік тому +1

    The best conversation starter is my Casio calculator watch 🤣 Tudor Ranger has the ugliest handset.

  • @benmoore7946
    @benmoore7946 Рік тому +1

    This needs to be a series.
    Just improve the "pick up chicks" question: A more inclusive "best 1st date watch" works just fine.

    • @Nudel-nc1cp
      @Nudel-nc1cp Рік тому

      Pick up chicks? Obviously Cartier :)

  • @joshuakaplan5726
    @joshuakaplan5726 Рік тому +1

    1.) Date windows are great on some and not great on others. Depends on how they are shown, framed, etc. Datejust looks amazing, so does tudor black bay pro and the omega smp and AT, along with sportier pieces. Also if they are at 3 vs at 6. But when it comes to dressier pieces like GS, cartier, etc, things are so much better without a date window for purposes of pure symmetry and dial aesthetics. Dates also flow better when the indices are dots or batons, but don't work well when they are numbers.
    2.) My choice of best rolex is the DJ36 with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet. The ultimate icon. But I do love the explorer 36 and gmt master 2 as well for sport watches. Find them a lot cooler and more interesting than the sub by far.
    3.) Best cartier model is the O.G. tank normale and tank Louis (with manual wind movement). Me being a pauper, I went with the Tank Must Large.
    4.) Love the tudor Snowflake hands! And the indices on the pelagos too! The sword hands on my IWC Pilot's Chronograph 41 also look great.
    5.) Speedy is the Chronograph GOAT. I chose my IWC over Speedy cuz I already had an Omega SMP 300M Diver and wanted to diversify. But Daytona is just so overhyped, impossible to get, and a total flex piece.

  • @MrRevvvhead
    @MrRevvvhead Рік тому

    Worst handset has to be skeleton.

  • @georgehiphopforever
    @georgehiphopforever Рік тому

    Opinion about Chinese homage watches?

    • @davidr2802
      @davidr2802 Рік тому

      Homage to Chinese?

    • @georgehiphopforever
      @georgehiphopforever Рік тому

      @@davidr2802 I mean Chinese homages like pagani design,san martin etc... of famous brands models like submariner.

    • @davidr2802
      @davidr2802 Рік тому

      @@georgehiphopforever I know, I was just joshing about your non sequitur. Cheers