An Ignorant Guide to Dubstep
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Ah yes, my favorite electronic music genre, *SKRILLEXCORE*
A fellow w^w^^w^w listener in the wild
@@gl1tch592 Hello fellow Car Bomb enthusiast
Is that a car bomb album cover?
@@brennendodd187 It is. One of the best album covers of all time
based and car bomb-pilled
funny thing is that skrillex has recently been bringing the genre more down to earth to the roots it came from. He's really pushing the sound, while a lot of other US based dubstep producers are stuck in the 2010's sound.
also gotta give credit to labels like Deep Medi and 1985 music that keep focussing on the deep sound; still has a huge following in the underground
Yes and no, if you hear what's coming out nowadays under the "dubstep" genre, you can tell the change, as the older Skrillex stuff sounds very dated. Over the years they've blended with elements of trap, psytrance, complextro, you name it. The one thing that's stayed consistent is that they've kept going for harder and harder drops
Eh, he is better at making electronic music than trying to rip off the whining vocal style from Green-182
The most recebnt Skrillex material is actually much closer to garage than dubstep.
but, peeps. Brostep also gave us: Rusko - Everyday (Netsky Remix)
And I know, it is much brostep (technically drumstep I think?) but it is a banger. Fight me!
edit: maybe it's the nostalgia speaking. At the start of 2010 it was all the rage and I started college back then.
@@Quadr44t"drumstep" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING RETARD😂😂😂
All of you, actually. What a bunch of mouth-breathers.
My favorite dubstep moment was when Skrillexius Maximus posted the flim track by aphex twin saying he was the reason he got into making music and all his fans were like "YO WHERE'S THE DROP BRO???".
Super cringe lol
@@soygenial111 It was indeed super cringe.
I think the song was xtal not flim but yeah
@@dopey473 It was flim bro, just looked it up. It's pretty cringe either way
@@shredderly yeh it was flim my bad but this was in like early to mid 2010s i think most skrillex fans matured by now
Also just to let you guys know brostep didn’t just birth out the usa it actually started with uk based acts such as rusko and coki. Artist such as these had much more aggressive style of dubstep and sounds familiar with brostep whilst still having that heavy low end bass from old school dubstep.
If you check out coki has a track could SpongeBob where he takes SpongeBobs laugh and turns it into a wobbling baseline. Definitely a precursor to brostep.
tearout dubstep such as coki is definitely a precursor to- or even what led to brostep, but i think theres a fine line that divides the two
@@doofus_dummy true and despite us based bands trying to up the ante with their style of brostep nothing they made could hold a candle to cokis goblin. That track is probably the filthiest track thing I’ve heard.
Coki's stuff was energetic and aggressive, and he DEFINITELY influenced Skrillex, but calling it brostep is an insult.
@@VuotoPneumaNN didn’t mean to call it brostep lol that is definitely an insult I didn’t mean to suggest.
"skrillex invented brostep" mfs when they hear doctor p's sweet shop for the first time
Just saw Rusko and Skrillex on Sunday at EDC México.
That shit was fucking awesome, seeing both sides of the scene is fucking awesome.
Fuck you purists, all my homies love Skrillex and dubstep.
That ain't Dubstep you twit.
Yo totally, imagine having fun. I think these Brits are just salty that they got their genre stolen.
Music enjoyers unite
I’m a Brit and I love Skrillex and “Brostep” sounds. That was what made my school years so Awesome. It’s mostly the older crowd who get all elitist and spiteful about it. Anyone who was in their teens during the early 2010s, have fond memories of it.
Brostep is cool, its just a shame the original formula is overshadowed by the evolved branch of the genre
Everyone seems to blame Skrillex for "ruining" dubstep even though Rusko had made Woo Boost a few years before Skrillex blew up.
real
yeah but Skrillex had a toe in the metal scene so he brought all the metalheads, and Scary Monsters was a lot heavier than anything Rusko had ever put out
Moreso Coki released tracks like Spongebob years before both of them
Rusko played with the EQ but kept the grooves similar… skrillex disassembled the groove entirely replacing it with metal-style breakdowns
@@BarDownBoys and the beat got simplified to the exact same thing every time, Skream has tonnes of different beats that arent the typical "dubstep beat" just like with drum and bass got reduced to that same beat every pendulum song has
You forgot to mention Rusko & Caspa the "godfathers" of tearout dubstep which was a precursor to early brostep.
And now "Tearout" has been completely redefined.
Go listen to Fabriclive 37 and think about what you just said.
@@Ibanez9007he's not wrong though. They shifted towards heavier and heavier stuff
Also worth mentioning the glory of metalstep. You know, Korn’s Path Of Totality album, Jiluka etc.
Ahhh Path Of Totality AKA KoRn's absolute, undisputed musical rock bottom. That album is trash.
Finally someone else who likes metalstep
@@nihil4535 LOL the self-titled i's one of their best albums.
@@nihil4535 i have never seen a more wrong opinion before
There's a difference between industrial metal and metalstep
shoutout to Alix Perez and 1985 crew for carrying and constantly setting new boundaries for the darker and more sinister 140, half time, and anything beyond 160
Real shit. Visages, Shades (Alix and Eprom), Drone, and Monty are fucking MONSTERS
Shoutout to DUPLOC too
Listening to a Headland set right now 😈
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Dubstep coming from Dub which stemmed from Reggae music
same
If you were to confine dubstep's history to just the UK you would probably find that it still had a dizzying plethora of styles that were mostly regional, since in London around 2011 Benga, Skream, Coki, Sukh Knight etc. were creating tracks that were focused around singular basslines and minimalist structures, whereas artists on the Circus Records label and the like took more cues from American dubstep as an alternative as this was the less underground and more EDM friendly form of dubstep. Then there were artists in Bristol like Culprate and KOAN Sound as well as Feed Me who were more influenced by Aphex and Squarepusher and later fused dubstep with sounds taken from neurofunk drum and bass and were considered to be part of the Bass Music subcategory
There's a bridge between the UK dubstep and the Skrillex dubstep, 2009 stuff from Rottun Records (Excision's label)
honestly didnt expect colour bass to get a shout out, awesome video!
That stuff is all trash
This would be a great segway into Ignorant guide to Triphop.
yes I want this
Yes
As a certified autistic zoomer my primary memories of "brostep" come from Geometry Dash, specifically the boatload of "Nine Circles levels" that flooded the GD community in 2015.
Geometry Dash (at least until 2.2) sourced all its music from the Newgrounds audio portal, and there was a guy on there called NIGHTkilla (he also went by "Realistik" and "Rukkus") who was essentially the Skrillex of Newgrounds. He started off making the kind of generic techno music you'd hear in flash games in the late 2000's, but in 2011 pivoted to making brostep after Skrillex blew up. Anyway, fast forward to January 2015 when the ability to pick a custom song from Newgrounds had just been added and Geometry Dash was entering its first golden age. A guy named Zobros made a demon level called "Nine Circles" that used one of NIGHTkilla's songs, and in this level created a gimmick involving pairing the drop of a brostep song with extremely hard wave gameplay decorated by seizure-inducing flashing lights. The GD community went absolutely nuts over this and before long everyone and their grandma was picking a song from NIGHTkilla's discography and making their own Nine Circles remake with it. That trend forever cemented the whole brostep sound as rhythm game music or "gamer music" in general in my mind.
As a massive dubstep fan you've done a pretty good job covering it in a short video. Another thing to note is oddly it dying in the mainstream's eyes has actually been a really good thing for the genre as basically only people who actually want t produce it have stuck around so there's now quite a lot of mainstay name in Dubstep who have been doing it a while and creating quality stuff.
Biggest issue with it has been homogeneity. Excision/flux/zomboy makes new sound. Next 6 months every track is using that sound. Till the new sound comes out. Gets real samey.
@@swim3530Eh yes and no. This is what I mean by those mainstay artists. A lot of the "I'll copy this dude" only stick around for 2 or 3 yrs, the Ganja White Night's, Rusko's, Excision's, Xaebor's, Basnectars etc etc etc stick around making their own sound that is quite recognisable to them specifically and as a result tend to actually stick around for a long while.
@@swim3530 Go away from festival dubstep, it's all shit. And I say that as a person who used to love that oppressive crap when I was a teenager lol
@@Pyrimo Bassnectar is pretty much gone now after the allegations lol
@@negative6442Uh oh him too? Bad enough Datsik turned out to be a fucking rapist
I keep watching dubstep documentaries and none of makers actually seem to have listened to the genre at all since 2012 at all, funnily enough what should be a subgenre of dubstep documentaries is the broad mass. It's a really specific feeling you get when something you like gets so grossly oversimplified again and again in the same way that I think I'm starting to like it, also the comment section proves to be repetitively predictable which is calming in its own way.
1:32 certified burial moment
Brings back memories of being a young child during my older sister’s dubstep hyperfixation. I swear we watched that one video of the dude dancing to the pumped up kicks remix’s everyday for months.
I’m 31 now and discovered dubstep/brostep in late 2011 while in college. I had never connected more with a genre of music in my life and to this day in 2024 it is predominantly my main taste in music. It’s has everything I look for in music. Relentless energy, aggression, colorful melody, abstract patterns and humor, not taking itself too seriously.
I’m not alone with these feelings either. My whole friend circle is into this stuff and my girl and I regularly attend brostep raves now in our 30s. It comes off a bit insulting talking only 12-year-olds like this kind of sound. Maybe so in your corner of the world but not here.
Skril didn’t blow up for no reason. The sound clearly appealed to people back then and the scene is still very much alive and well.
I am curious though. What kind of music do the people trashing on brostep listen to? I pretty much enjoy all music in some capacity and am always looking for new listening experiences!
Can we please have an Ignorant Guide to Hard Bass????
BURIAL MENTIONED 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Man i've really grown to love these videos, always waiting for a new one!😄 Also your soundcloud has some really nice songs, "This shit makes me feel like im walking on air" is so gooood!
I remember dubstep was the first genre of music I ever really liked when I was younger. Nowadays I never listen to it
Same bro
To be fair, does anyone listen to dubstep anymore? 💀
I have a playlist devoted to cataloguing monstercat songs I used to like, and I get a kick out of listening to them again every 5 years
@@electricfishfan7159 send
@@nsk1911I make and listen to dubstep
pretty good coverage as a whole, although I still have yet to see a lot of talk about the 2008-2010 excision datsik bar9 doctorp flux pavillion type era, it wasn't just coki and benga night and then one day skrillex changed everything, it was definitely a gradual change.
There's also so much forgotten to history, like riddim's origins being essentially any song that sounds like subfiltronik's passout until it was changed to a catch all term for repetitive dubstep and that phase where "trench" was a genre and then was collectively decided was out of ideas after precisely 2 months.
Tearout was a word at some point and I could have sworn dubloadz tried to make "savage wonk" a thing but this video was nice and good have a lovely day mr coolea
This dude didn't even mention UKF Dubstep which put on all of the artists you mentioned and more who were taking dubstep in a more chaotic and energetic direction before Skrillex came into the scene. The title didn't lie.
this mix up of genre names in the general public reminds me a lot of what is happening to the hip hop sub genre phonk for over 2 or 3 years now
I made beats on PlayStation back in the day😂🍻
Absolutely fantastic video. Really enjoy the concept of this UA-cam channel
Bruh that shit you had at 7:40 made me rewind like 6 times 😂
For a future video, do one on acid house. It's kinda like the OG EDM (if you ignore Chicago). And unlike the common thread of the US ruining everything, time they spawned an amazing new musical style (but then forgot about it).
I suggested the same thing mins ago, absolutely based!
Old dub step used to be sooo good
no it wasn't, you was just young at the time and hard-hitting sounds overwhelmed your not fully developed mind
He probably means 2000s Dubstep@@dnull
it still is, the style hasnt gone anywhere
subtronics is Ight but festivals in the USA need to branch out.
Check out DUPLOC. It never died
I love dubstep
Same
Me being the only dude who actually likes brostep and metalstep because of the sound design
Funny, Brostep is what I called Pewdiepie fan music back in the early 2010s.
Real.
Been getting into a lot of Riddim stuff that's been produced 2018-pres. I actually like some of it & it shows that it still works. I love the fact that the genre is back to being underground again. Some bangers I listen to max out 50,000 views on here. Aweminus' stuff for example is a great artist for those who like the heavy stuff & want a more consistent darker tone. Really depends on the tone people prefer from it. Some of it, I will say, does sound like crap to me though. I find to be skipping 60% of tracks on my Riddim autoplay. Some of it is a bit too much in some areas, such as overly aggressive drops & builds that last way too long with little payoff when the drop comes.
You a real rimming fan
we had a bunch of fun in the scene back then with it man, some of the best times... going back to 2013 riddim
Riddim rocks hard. When I'm talking to people about what music I listen to, I say Riddim and they're usually like "What's that?". I just tell them it's Evil Dubstep and they understand, especially when I show them SVDDEN DEATH
This video reminds me of that video called "all my homies hate skrillex"
*Coki - Spongebob* was one of the first experiments with focus on the the face-melting midbass. Worth checking out.
I was little surprised with no mention of Rusko, who i remember being the first one i ever heard of, couple of years before Skrillex blew up. Rusko was also one of the creators of the brostep sound. Another one was Datsik.
Colour bass fan here, I really didn't expect you to mention colour bass. Thanks
Video was so good i went to like it and saw i already had
The ecto and berrix clips are absolutely perfect in placement.
there's a construction site near a bus stop i use and recently i heard them playing some brostep noise and I was like 'wow, i haven't heard that shit in years'
I need a guide to trap metal. As a fan of the genre, that would be hilarious
Don't do it please no
ha! I got Like #666. I deserve a medal.
I remember checking out the early dubstep back around 2007-08 when I was first really exploring electronic music in depth. Skream and Burial were very interesting, but that brostep movement came along so fast that I pretty much stop checking out any artist with dubstep as a description.
I'll admit I was one such 12yo that got waaaay to much into the genre in the 2010s, simpler times they were.
broo the reasearch you did one this one is insanee!!
would also love to see you cover memphis rap.
It's actually a bit inaccurate.
insane? lmao. no. those are just basic facts. innaccurate at times
It's really not. It's an ignorant guide, the title doesn't lie.
I very much fuck with the new "dubstep," but lean heavily towards riddim and tearout/deathstep in that case. It's doodoo white noise all around, but brain likey. Half the reason I listen to all the Metal I do, too.
Although I'm also a staunch defender of Dubstep being the old-school variety. Fantastic artists mentioned in the video like Skream, Benga, Digital Mystikz and Burial - I would also like to recommend Mala, SP:MC, J:Kenzo, Egoless and Truth. Lots of greats are active to this day, too. Truth's label - Deep Dark & Dangerous - is a great place to find new artists, alongside DUPLOC. Lots of fantastic labels!
Personally, I would've loved for Minatory to get a bit more popular. It has been super underground for many years by now, but there's some incredible subgenres being explored. I think dungeon minatory might be a bit esoteric, but it hits a very slow, haunting vibe with lots of lows. Minatory as a whole still leans on lots of jarring noises, due to having some roots in Deathstep/Brostep, but typically it's accompanied by actual instruments and atmosphere. Choirs without end. Lots of video game samples being used for storytelling purposes. Also best snares you'll hear in any music genre, fight me.
Few recommendations with two caveats; they're mostly found on Soundcloud or Bandcamp, and you gotta get in the "noise not music" mindset.
Carthus - Domain of Reflection, SCARRED - Enshrined Anguish (sounds like the devil talking), Havel x Influx - The Hundred Year War, Malice - Plague
Sorry for horrible formatting but ain't nobody readin' alladat.
If you did, here's a song I've had on repeat lately. Idk about its genre ngl. retvrn - dawn
As a Dubstep fan, I don't think Minatory will ever escape the underground. I've listened to a couple Minatory tracks. They all sound like white noise over drums. Compare that to Riddim, which has discernible rhythms and harmonic adjustments to provide tonality, and I will pick Riddim because of the capacity for tonality. I think Colour Bass or Future Riddim could go mainstream.
@@victorheras5882Oh you're right, Minatory will never see the light of day, but a man can dream. Colour Bass and Future Riddim have both been very close already, so I wouldn't be surprised. I just want more strings, guitar and actual drum kits in my electronic music :')
@@lukaz20001does minatory even go that guitar and strings route? Maybe it's because I heard too little of minatory but for me it seems like literal harsh snares and leads (not saying it's bad tho)
@@statera_forever Yeah I think you're mostly right. There's some artists that employ guitar a lot. Apothecide has a lot of metal influences, to the point where most of his newer tracks are IDed as Industrial Metal lmao. Gnarl Wrought comes to mind, too, but it is a snare-fest with leads and lots of bass overall. Still geared more towards bassheads than metalheads ig
Spent a lot of time in high school listening to brostep and its variations, but eventually moved on. In more recent years I began to explore 90s genres of rave music and their modern counterparts such as Breakbeat Hardcore>DnB, or Gabber>Uptempo Hardcore. Perhaps my former love of brostep explains my current obsession with some of these genres. For example I find some extratone feels weirdly similar to brostep.
8:39 OMG you are so right, damn, I loved it before this!!!
such good conclusion. thankyou
Thank you for making this
What is the name of this Aphex Twin dubstep compilation you are referring to?
One quick google search reveals that Richard was not involved with compiling the project for Rephlex. Alongside some other quirks I noticed, and some extremely obvious things you stated. It makes me wonder: did you actually do research?
You should maybe do an ignorant guide to one of my fav dance genres of all time - acid house
On second thought, you probably shouldn't. I have a feeling you'll probably trash it by calling it "noise" than music. Just like with the majority of ignorant casuals who think of dance/electronic styles to be just loud or soulless music 🤣
@@tutubismanyone who'd refer to acid house as "noise" probably has never heard of hard techno, schranz, hardcore, rawstyle, crossbreed, darkcore, breakcore and a plethora of similar electronic genres.
acid house is chill, jazzy lounge music compared to that.
you should do a video on uptempo , if skrillex is too ridiculous for you
that's what I'm sayin, these people have no idea what actual crazy music sounds like 😂
Can you do a video on industrial metal or groove metal
I'm seeing more and more people talking about what dubstep really used to be and I like that.
Damn, I got into dubstep and electronic music in general because of geometry dash
Do trance and house next!
It would be soo cool if u can make a playlist
I am once again asking for *an ignorant guide to jungle*
Burial is one of very few electronic music producers than can make me cry
Bauhaus (the truth) when?
8:05 That's like the most funniest fictional story I have ever heard of their was one not gonna lie.
riddim mentioned ❤🔥
hehe i love brostep i think its fun ive got a local band that does hardcore straightedge dubstep super fun bunch of death metal influence
A couple of things, 1) prior ro the whole thing taking off in Croydon, Mick Harris, the drummer of Grindcore legends Napalm Death had been taking his electronic solo side project in some very strange directions from the dank industrial-y trip-hop that had characterised his earlier work into what is recognisably dubstep a good couple of years ahead of the scene kicking off in London. The extent to which any of the croydon guys or later artists knew or cared about their precursor is debatable but that's still kind of cool to know. One might arguably say the same about some of Kevin Martin's various projects
2) Not all the facemelting mid-rangey stuff is shite! Specifically UK artists like 16 Bit, SKiSM, Broken Note et al, and some from further afield, Akira Kiteshi, Loops Haunt, the industrial producer Hecq had an album and a couple of EPs in that style and they was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.
3) There's a lot of stuff missed out on, sure you know yourself. Bristol was and remains a huge centre for Dubstep and bass music in general, the Bristolean "Purple" dubstep was some of the best, see Joker, Ital Tek et al. My favourite was the heavy dark techno infleunced stuff like The Bug (who was also releasing stuff that has all the hallmarks of dubstep through the late 90s), Vex'd, Distance
For a more thorough dissection Timbah On Toast's seminal video essay All My Homies Hate Skrillex is very much worth the watch.
great vid ! just a little thing i found confusing : this video lacks some actual music examples, would have been much more comprehensive for those who are not familiar with theses genres, other than that nice work man keep it up !
You should do industrial music next
He's a good lad, called it brostep. Curses on skrillex and transformer noises
Good video, I have a suggestion for a new video, harder styles
Nice video👌 but nothing wrong with a good old rewind😂
Caspa and Dubpolice also use to be a thing back then. They had some awesome artists on their books.
"and would originally make music on his playstation"
> Shows chief from xbox mil grau
OH THE IRONY
good video but I also don't like how you framed the whole sonic shift of Dubstep as this sudden American shift when in fact it was moreso a completely natural progression of the sound. It wasn't just Americans causing this either - artists like Coki and Flux Pavilion for example definitely road the wave of Dubstep but steadily added more wobbly basslines and drop structure to their songs and Skrillex was simply a fan who saw the progression and took it just that one step further
Album on the thumbnail?
Burial - Untrue
Let's gooooo dubstep 🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏🙏
Oh yes 13 year old me loved enjoying the sound of my ears absorbing all kinds of dinosaur techno noises.
I honestly think dubstep just went down because they're trying a bit too hard the same way deathcore did to their genre. It's blatant boring nowadays and just want to sound hard for the appeal of being hardcore.
It was so cybernetic, dystopian & alienated sounding during 2002-2018 it was sucha different genre, it felt so nasty during those times but now, idk what can i say to it, buncha random laser noises and weird wobble that i think it's better if you put that a sidefx into a goregrind album. It's overlyproduced and trying so hard that i would rather listen to gorenoise and blacknoise than this.
While one of it's most famous subgenre (Deathstep) has stayed on it's roots and i like it that way, deathstep is still my go thru since they don't try so hard, they really want to appeal something, they just make something cinematic, gothic & creepy and just drops, they don't overlyproduced it, same thing goes thru minatory, the genre has it's harshest during 2014-2016 and it wasn't also overproduced, now modern minatory mostly now focuses on occultist atmosphere and I still quite like it
Forgot to mention many great genre died
Like:
Robostep
Neurostep
Drumstep
Complextro
Deep dub And Glitch-hop(Moombahcore)
Due to its tryhard progression
Can you do a vid on happy hardcore
I’m hearing a lot of yappin about Americans when really the Canadians really took it to the ridiculous level
I love you guys
GIVE US THE IGNORANT GUIDE TO HARD DANCE
i wanna see you rip into some modern xtra raw and uptempo lmao
Can't find the Aphex Twin and Digital Mystikz tune, someone point me in the right direction!
there is no collab, there are 2 compilation albums on Aphex Twins label (Rephlex) called Grime and Grime 2 in 2004 and DMZ has a few tracks on the second volume.
YESSS!!! Dubstep!!!
You mentioned skream wow
Pretty accurate video
We went from "Come meditate on a bass weight" to huge festivals with "dubstep" artists that weren't dubstep at all. By the point Untrue was released and Sonny Moore left From First To Last to became Skrillex, things got really different.
I spent some friday late nights listening to the Radio 1's Essential Mix between 2007 and 2015, and it was a really interesting downhill. Not really bad at all but still a downhill; the USA artists were somewhat uninteresting, but UK and Canadians (who were an extreme that I particularly liked) didn't disappointed me.
Coolea is the best music channel on youtube....well his and Nik Nokturnal.
(edit: I think Ajapai did dubstep best, personally)
please do a video on riddim
facts
*YES*
Midtempo Bass is next up.
3:09 Excuse me wtf is that, this has no business being this funny xd
An ignorant guide on Bérurier Noir/french punk next pls
Fuck yeah
4:47 I think ''Magix Music Maker'' is the name of the ps2 game
Yep this is definitely an ignorant guide ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Very much so just the surface level stuff you can read on Wikipedia written by people who aren't involved in the scene. Every single video that pops up on the subject seems to be the exact same - mention Burial and some old artists that left the scene a while back, toe the line on Skrillex and don't acknowledge his actual achievements as a musician in general, pretend brostep isn't dubstep and is an American invention, make an unfathomable amount of tired earrape jokes, don't touch on the current resurgence of deep dubstep and classic dubstep as a mainstay of bass music, and only mention a couple of other subgenres in passing.
No hate, just making an observation. This is probably why it's going to stay underground forever, which is a good thing honestly.
lol, wheel ups are the best!
Oh no he's talking about a genre I like
make power metal next i have waited months
my god i already agree
Come on dupstep but not shock rock? 😞