My favorite dubstep moment was when Skrillexius Maximus posted the flim track by aphex twin saying he was the reason he got into making music and all his fans were like "YO WHERE'S THE DROP BRO???".
funny thing is that skrillex has recently been bringing the genre more down to earth to the roots it came from. He's really pushing the sound, while a lot of other US based dubstep producers are stuck in the 2010's sound. also gotta give credit to labels like Deep Medi and 1985 music that keep focussing on the deep sound; still has a huge following in the underground
Yes and no, if you hear what's coming out nowadays under the "dubstep" genre, you can tell the change, as the older Skrillex stuff sounds very dated. Over the years they've blended with elements of trap, psytrance, complextro, you name it. The one thing that's stayed consistent is that they've kept going for harder and harder drops
but, peeps. Brostep also gave us: Rusko - Everyday (Netsky Remix) And I know, it is much brostep (technically drumstep I think?) but it is a banger. Fight me! edit: maybe it's the nostalgia speaking. At the start of 2010 it was all the rage and I started college back then.
Also just to let you guys know brostep didn’t just birth out the usa it actually started with uk based acts such as rusko and coki. Artist such as these had much more aggressive style of dubstep and sounds familiar with brostep whilst still having that heavy low end bass from old school dubstep. If you check out coki has a track could SpongeBob where he takes SpongeBobs laugh and turns it into a wobbling baseline. Definitely a precursor to brostep.
@@doofus_dummy true and despite us based bands trying to up the ante with their style of brostep nothing they made could hold a candle to cokis goblin. That track is probably the filthiest track thing I’ve heard.
yeah but Skrillex had a toe in the metal scene so he brought all the metalheads, and Scary Monsters was a lot heavier than anything Rusko had ever put out
@@BarDownBoys and the beat got simplified to the exact same thing every time, Skream has tonnes of different beats that arent the typical "dubstep beat" just like with drum and bass got reduced to that same beat every pendulum song has
Just saw Rusko and Skrillex on Sunday at EDC México. That shit was fucking awesome, seeing both sides of the scene is fucking awesome. Fuck you purists, all my homies love Skrillex and dubstep.
I’m a Brit and I love Skrillex and “Brostep” sounds. That was what made my school years so Awesome. It’s mostly the older crowd who get all elitist and spiteful about it. Anyone who was in their teens during the early 2010s, have fond memories of it.
If you were to confine dubstep's history to just the UK you would probably find that it still had a dizzying plethora of styles that were mostly regional, since in London around 2011 Benga, Skream, Coki, Sukh Knight etc. were creating tracks that were focused around singular basslines and minimalist structures, whereas artists on the Circus Records label and the like took more cues from American dubstep as an alternative as this was the less underground and more EDM friendly form of dubstep. Then there were artists in Bristol like Culprate and KOAN Sound as well as Feed Me who were more influenced by Aphex and Squarepusher and later fused dubstep with sounds taken from neurofunk drum and bass and were considered to be part of the Bass Music subcategory
shoutout to Alix Perez and 1985 crew for carrying and constantly setting new boundaries for the darker and more sinister 140, half time, and anything beyond 160
As a massive dubstep fan you've done a pretty good job covering it in a short video. Another thing to note is oddly it dying in the mainstream's eyes has actually been a really good thing for the genre as basically only people who actually want t produce it have stuck around so there's now quite a lot of mainstay name in Dubstep who have been doing it a while and creating quality stuff.
Biggest issue with it has been homogeneity. Excision/flux/zomboy makes new sound. Next 6 months every track is using that sound. Till the new sound comes out. Gets real samey.
@@swim3530Eh yes and no. This is what I mean by those mainstay artists. A lot of the "I'll copy this dude" only stick around for 2 or 3 yrs, the Ganja White Night's, Rusko's, Excision's, Xaebor's, Basnectars etc etc etc stick around making their own sound that is quite recognisable to them specifically and as a result tend to actually stick around for a long while.
@notatrolliswear i think they're mostly progressive metalcore Since prog. Genres tend to be confusing and experimental While narcissistic cannibal is definitely metalstep if not cyber metal
As a certified autistic zoomer my primary memories of "brostep" come from Geometry Dash, specifically the boatload of "Nine Circles levels" that flooded the GD community in 2015. Geometry Dash (at least until 2.2) sourced all its music from the Newgrounds audio portal, and there was a guy on there called NIGHTkilla (he also went by "Realistik" and "Rukkus") who was essentially the Skrillex of Newgrounds. He started off making the kind of generic techno music you'd hear in flash games in the late 2000's, but in 2011 pivoted to making brostep after Skrillex blew up. Anyway, fast forward to January 2015 when the ability to pick a custom song from Newgrounds had just been added and Geometry Dash was entering its first golden age. A guy named Zobros made a demon level called "Nine Circles" that used one of NIGHTkilla's songs, and in this level created a gimmick involving pairing the drop of a brostep song with extremely hard wave gameplay decorated by seizure-inducing flashing lights. The GD community went absolutely nuts over this and before long everyone and their grandma was picking a song from NIGHTkilla's discography and making their own Nine Circles remake with it. That trend forever cemented the whole brostep sound as rhythm game music or "gamer music" in general in my mind.
Dubstep didn't come from dub in a linear fashion so to speak. Following UK Garage peak in the late 90's more and more producers were experimenting with the darker and more intelligent styles of UK garage. You had Ghost recordings, Big Apple records and many more who were pushing this sort of darker 2 step sound. Eventually you had people from the Horsepower Productions crew and others alike who began making much more experimental type of sound. Benny Ill in particular, because of his influence from things like reggae and dub, the snares were "on the wrong beat". Creating more synocpated beats and utilised, far more wobbly snares, significant echo and reverb of things like movie samples, etc. At the time the sound was considered 'FWD beats' as it didn't fit within Grime or 2-step. Oris Jay has spoken about when he was chatting witht Neil Joliffe and Sarah Lockhart (two very important people in the foundation of record labels such as Tempa, Ammunition Productions, Shelflife, and Soulja); they were discussing a track Benny Ill had made which to them kind of sound like 2-step but dub as well and then they coined 'dubstep.' The reason why it's called dubstep was not because it 'came' from dub (not diminishing the importance of dub music or the Jamacians at all!) is because dub was almost used as a methodology for the reworking of these pop like UK garage beats and then stripping back the vocals, pushing the baseline forward, creating more darker and tripper garage music. Similar to what reggae is to dub; stripping back vocals, utilising tape delay for echo, wobby snare hits due to using spring reverb units etc. So that's kind of where the 'dub' aspect comes from. Not so much a 'linear' aspect as it was a methodology. It's hard to be totally specific because you can not deny the significant importance of the Jamacian influence on the development of british dance music (and worldwide too) and on british culture as a whole. Some really good documentaries to watch are by BearingUK - That UK Sound. By far the most breadth and depth of Dubstep history but also touches on the influences of Jamacia on the UK in other documentaries.
I’m 31 now and discovered dubstep/brostep in late 2011 while in college. I had never connected more with a genre of music in my life and to this day in 2024 it is predominantly my main taste in music. It’s has everything I look for in music. Relentless energy, aggression, colorful melody, abstract patterns and humor, not taking itself too seriously. I’m not alone with these feelings either. My whole friend circle is into this stuff and my girl and I regularly attend brostep raves now in our 30s. It comes off a bit insulting talking only 12-year-olds like this kind of sound. Maybe so in your corner of the world but not here. Skril didn’t blow up for no reason. The sound clearly appealed to people back then and the scene is still very much alive and well. I am curious though. What kind of music do the people trashing on brostep listen to? I pretty much enjoy all music in some capacity and am always looking for new listening experiences!
It’s hard to explain, because it is a cultural thing. The name for the genre tells you everything you have to know about the culture underpinning it. I’ll let you do your own research about that. Tbf most of us probably have an eclectic taste in music, both alternative and popular with a healthy appreciation for not only minimal dance genres, but beat production in the contexts of Afro-diasporan or “urban” styles of music (like hip hop, RnB, Dancehall). Soundsystem culture is also a massively important element thus Roots and Dub reggae are naturally some of the main vectors of interest and influence. The issue with brostep is that it is a complete misrepresentation of the genre and, most importantly, the culture underpinning it. In the case of the original genre, the word dubstep refers to all of these things that I described; whereas, in the case of brostep, the word dubstep basically refers to nothing outside of itself. If that that had actually been the case, then that would be fine, but dubstep properly speaking is actually not one of those genres, despite its ingenuity, that exists or was developed in that kind of a bubble. Aside, to understand modern rap or especially RnB, not knowing proper dubstep leaves a massive gap in one’s appreciation, because modern beat production owes a lot more to the og genre than it did to the latter one.
I listen to a ton of genres ranging from the likes of (old) Dubstep and Trip-Hop to stuff like Experimental Hip-Hop, Ambient, Classical, Extreme Metal even Noise and niche shit like unironic Mongolian throat singing. Hell, I've known to jam to Kate Bush and Tom Waits, get weird with Aphex Twin and Death Grips, I've chilled with Portishead, gotten depressed to Radiohead, I've listened to rap in languages I don't understand a single word of, I've listened to and agreed with political protest songs, I've travelled the world through World music, I can take a candlelit bath with Enya or headbang to Gojira, I've walked through pitch-black forests listenin to Burzum and driven across rural landscapes with Willie Nelson. I may pop in 36 Chambers from Wu-Tang and do a 360 and listen to fucking Lemonade by Beyoncé after that. Who knows? I've got thousands of albums from hundreds of genres, and only because I can't afford tens of thousands of albums. Norwegian experimental electronic jazz? Love it. Brazilian tribal trash metal? Give it to me. Slovenian Avant-Garde industrial with a faux-Nationalist twist? Hit me up. South-African Electronic Hip Hop? I can dig it. Leftist protest music? Why not? 50s Rock n' Roll? Got it. Finnish Schlager? Yup. But I can't fucking stand brostep. I unironically listen to and enjoy noise music, and I can't take Dubstep. Like check out Kingdom of Noise. That shit. I've listened it for fun several times. I might need to clease my palate afterwards with something like Brian Eno afterwards, but nonetheless, I can dig it. But not Skrillex. I can't listen to that shit. I've tried. It's like that fucking South Park episode, its' just farts to me.
Brings back memories of being a young child during my older sister’s dubstep hyperfixation. I swear we watched that one video of the dude dancing to the pumped up kicks remix’s everyday for months.
pretty good coverage as a whole, although I still have yet to see a lot of talk about the 2008-2010 excision datsik bar9 doctorp flux pavillion type era, it wasn't just coki and benga night and then one day skrillex changed everything, it was definitely a gradual change. There's also so much forgotten to history, like riddim's origins being essentially any song that sounds like subfiltronik's passout until it was changed to a catch all term for repetitive dubstep and that phase where "trench" was a genre and then was collectively decided was out of ideas after precisely 2 months. Tearout was a word at some point and I could have sworn dubloadz tried to make "savage wonk" a thing but this video was nice and good have a lovely day mr coolea
This dude didn't even mention UKF Dubstep which put on all of the artists you mentioned and more who were taking dubstep in a more chaotic and energetic direction before Skrillex came into the scene. The title didn't lie.
Man i've really grown to love these videos, always waiting for a new one!😄 Also your soundcloud has some really nice songs, "This shit makes me feel like im walking on air" is so gooood!
This video is very flawed for numerous reasons: 1. You didn’t explain how dubstep lead to brostep with brostep’s precursor of “dubstep tearout” music from the late 2000s, where dubstep began to emphasis mid-range basslines and being more party-oriented, while keeping the dark atmosphere and grooves of dubstep at the time. This sub-genre of dubstep is still made by some people today, most notably Hamdi, who collaborated with Skrillex recently. 2. Imagine painting Skrillex as a villain (even if it’s irony) when he’s mainly responsible for a new massive and diverse genre of music, and when he’s been making actual dubstep/grime in the past couple of years; Skrillex has a LOT of respect for the UK sound. 3. “Riddim” emerged from OG dubstep tearout, with the main OG pioneers of “Riddim” being Infekt and Subfiltronik. I would listen to Infekt - Orgalorg and Subfiltronik - Monsters to get a good idea of what “Riddim” initially sounded like. I say “Riddim”, because the name started as a joke because “Riddim” refers to the rhythm section in Jamaican dancehall music, but just like “Brostep” the name stuck despite being a joke. Infekt actually wants people to call it “trench” instead, based on an old idea from brostep OG “Getter”, who has collaborated with Joji before, even when Joji was “Pink Guy”. Getter has also collaborated with Oliver Tree. 4. You didn’t describe Colour Bass very well; Colour Bass is a sub-genre of brostep that keeps the energy and heaviness of brostep, but places an even heavier emphasis on melody and… color (gee who would have guessed). I would highly recommend listening to “Colour Bass Vol. 3” to get a good taste of what the genre sounds like, although not every genre is “Colour Bass”.
there's a construction site near a bus stop i use and recently i heard them playing some brostep noise and I was like 'wow, i haven't heard that shit in years'
For a future video, do one on acid house. It's kinda like the OG EDM (if you ignore Chicago). And unlike the common thread of the US ruining everything, time they spawned an amazing new musical style (but then forgot about it).
Been getting into a lot of Riddim stuff that's been produced 2018-pres. I actually like some of it & it shows that it still works. I love the fact that the genre is back to being underground again. Some bangers I listen to max out 50,000 views on here. Aweminus' stuff for example is a great artist for those who like the heavy stuff & want a more consistent darker tone. Really depends on the tone people prefer from it. Some of it, I will say, does sound like crap to me though. I find to be skipping 60% of tracks on my Riddim autoplay. Some of it is a bit too much in some areas, such as overly aggressive drops & builds that last way too long with little payoff when the drop comes.
Riddim rocks hard. When I'm talking to people about what music I listen to, I say Riddim and they're usually like "What's that?". I just tell them it's Evil Dubstep and they understand, especially when I show them SVDDEN DEATH
I very much fuck with the new "dubstep," but lean heavily towards riddim and tearout/deathstep in that case. It's doodoo white noise all around, but brain likey. Half the reason I listen to all the Metal I do, too. Although I'm also a staunch defender of Dubstep being the old-school variety. Fantastic artists mentioned in the video like Skream, Benga, Digital Mystikz and Burial - I would also like to recommend Mala, SP:MC, J:Kenzo, Egoless and Truth. Lots of greats are active to this day, too. Truth's label - Deep Dark & Dangerous - is a great place to find new artists, alongside DUPLOC. Lots of fantastic labels! Personally, I would've loved for Minatory to get a bit more popular. It has been super underground for many years by now, but there's some incredible subgenres being explored. I think dungeon minatory might be a bit esoteric, but it hits a very slow, haunting vibe with lots of lows. Minatory as a whole still leans on lots of jarring noises, due to having some roots in Deathstep/Brostep, but typically it's accompanied by actual instruments and atmosphere. Choirs without end. Lots of video game samples being used for storytelling purposes. Also best snares you'll hear in any music genre, fight me. Few recommendations with two caveats; they're mostly found on Soundcloud or Bandcamp, and you gotta get in the "noise not music" mindset. Carthus - Domain of Reflection, SCARRED - Enshrined Anguish (sounds like the devil talking), Havel x Influx - The Hundred Year War, Malice - Plague Sorry for horrible formatting but ain't nobody readin' alladat. If you did, here's a song I've had on repeat lately. Idk about its genre ngl. retvrn - dawn
As a Dubstep fan, I don't think Minatory will ever escape the underground. I've listened to a couple Minatory tracks. They all sound like white noise over drums. Compare that to Riddim, which has discernible rhythms and harmonic adjustments to provide tonality, and I will pick Riddim because of the capacity for tonality. I think Colour Bass or Future Riddim could go mainstream.
@@victorheras5882Oh you're right, Minatory will never see the light of day, but a man can dream. Colour Bass and Future Riddim have both been very close already, so I wouldn't be surprised. I just want more strings, guitar and actual drum kits in my electronic music :')
@@lukaz20001does minatory even go that guitar and strings route? Maybe it's because I heard too little of minatory but for me it seems like literal harsh snares and leads (not saying it's bad tho)
@@statera_forever Yeah I think you're mostly right. There's some artists that employ guitar a lot. Apothecide has a lot of metal influences, to the point where most of his newer tracks are IDed as Industrial Metal lmao. Gnarl Wrought comes to mind, too, but it is a snare-fest with leads and lots of bass overall. Still geared more towards bassheads than metalheads ig
Spent a lot of time in high school listening to brostep and its variations, but eventually moved on. In more recent years I began to explore 90s genres of rave music and their modern counterparts such as Breakbeat Hardcore>DnB, or Gabber>Uptempo Hardcore. Perhaps my former love of brostep explains my current obsession with some of these genres. For example I find some extratone feels weirdly similar to brostep.
ha! I got Like #666. I deserve a medal. I remember checking out the early dubstep back around 2007-08 when I was first really exploring electronic music in depth. Skream and Burial were very interesting, but that brostep movement came along so fast that I pretty much stop checking out any artist with dubstep as a description.
I was little surprised with no mention of Rusko, who i remember being the first one i ever heard of, couple of years before Skrillex blew up. Rusko was also one of the creators of the brostep sound. Another one was Datsik.
Started listening to Dubstep in 2008 with Reso. It was something I never heard of. I dove head first. Found TC, Caspa, Skream, Burial, along with Excision, Rusko, Datsik (eeshhh). I still evolved with the genre though, whether it's your crazy ATLiens, Crankdat, Subtronics, down to J:Kenzo, Truth and everything in between. Look, I completely understand where people are coming from when it comes to the whole dislike of "brostep". It's not for everyone, but it is always rooted back to people that listened to skrillex once, clutched their pearls, and held on tight to their old ways. Genres shift and evolve so it was bound to happen. We're actually in an amazing time for dubstep because people are coming up with more interesting sounds and some even enhancing the UK sound. Hamdi, Levity, and even Skrillex pushing boundaries again within the space with less of moshing railbreakers. For me personally, I love it all. Heavy neckbreakers, low end deep dubstep, color bass. wonky and whatever else gives me a feeling of moving or vibing. I'm 35 now and still open to new sounds in any genre. Sure, some artists don't land for me, but I'm not going to hate on others for enjoying it. I have countless new artists I can find that fits my taste.
Dubstep became a marketing name for the new hyped genre big festivals would use it it would attract visitors wanting to expirience this new ''genre'' of music..the name..would sell fast and fill the places,with a sound that took the name but didnt take the sound with it.... To further understand pls read. Dubstep comes from dub, a derivative of reggae essentially focusing on the bass and the drum patterns and adding lots of echoes and other elctronic elements into it all incorporated also in og dubstep ,usually at 60-90bpm . It comes from 2step a derivative of house music with a breakbeat and often very heavy basslines wich was being mixed at parties with dub and also grime elements usually on 120-140 bpm And from dnb elements or dnb elements wich is breakbeats and bass usually on 160-170ish bpms essentially its made to enter a state of bass meditation not screamo electro noises done by american emos, skrillex was literally a emo coming from screamo music wich explains his music wich isnt dubstep. Dubstep took the Dub basses added the 2 step ish wobbles, mixed dub drums with 2 stpe drumd with dnb breaks and the distortions and wobbles from dark dnb, often it had very meditative style but it could also go bonkers with distorted basslines similar to dark dnb.....all that remained and all that was incorporated all that was essential and the main goal was to vibe with extreme deep basslines to enter a transcendental state even. The main key are deep basslines with or without wobble and distortions... often in true dubstep parties the only genre played are dub and dubstep(dare to play skrillex might get you bottled no joke). Ppl who not once in their life has been in a dark underground dubstep club filled with weed smoke being emerged by dub plates....will have a hard time to understand what the feeling is or was,the sound coming out of it dont even need any distortion or wobble or any harsh drums to exist...to be dubstep, thats something american producers seemed to not being able to understand. if you take away dub and 2step and dnb elements all of wich have made dubstep to become dubstep....then you cannot create dubstep. Skrillex is metallic harsh sounding drums on 140bpm and instead of an emo screaming u hear screaming ''basslines''without dub without sub all mid range all high pitched , skrillex and anyone who makes sounds like him or the riddim sounds are essentially electronic emo music or also known as brostep... it is not dubstep. In case you wanna know how actual Dubstep sounds.... check these artists out digital mystikz,gemmy,skream,radikal guru check out their sound then listen to skrillex first hits and tell me if you genuinely still think its the same genre
On second thought, you probably shouldn't. I have a feeling you'll probably trash it by calling it "noise" than music. Just like with the majority of ignorant casuals who think of dance/electronic styles to be just loud or soulless music 🤣
@@tutubismanyone who'd refer to acid house as "noise" probably has never heard of hard techno, schranz, hardcore, rawstyle, crossbreed, darkcore, breakcore and a plethora of similar electronic genres. acid house is chill, jazzy lounge music compared to that.
video premise kind of hyped me, but seriously got me pissed me off when halfway through and didnt even hear a single part of any song as an example for what he was talking about, I know about this stuff but how can you go off about a music topic without giving actual examples to listen, even for like 10 seconds bits.
Is it wrong to enjoy old school dubstep pre Skrillex, early Skrillex and even the newer stuff nowadays? I feel like there’s space to have appreciation for it all and just enjoy seeing it evolve and change over time. Whatever it is, bass music in all forms is still the best
One quick google search reveals that Richard was not involved with compiling the project for Rephlex. Alongside some other quirks I noticed, and some extremely obvious things you stated. It makes me wonder: did you actually do research?
We went from "Come meditate on a bass weight" to huge festivals with "dubstep" artists that weren't dubstep at all. By the point Untrue was released and Sonny Moore left From First To Last to became Skrillex, things got really different. I spent some friday late nights listening to the Radio 1's Essential Mix between 2007 and 2015, and it was a really interesting downhill. Not really bad at all but still a downhill; the USA artists were somewhat uninteresting, but UK and Canadians (who were an extreme that I particularly liked) didn't disappointed me.
This video is some purist, heavily biased, tainted opinion sprinkled with false claims disguised as an informative video about the history of dubstep. Much love to all producers out there, don't let this discourage you from experimenting
I honestly think dubstep just went down because they're trying a bit too hard the same way deathcore did to their genre. It's blatant boring nowadays and just want to sound hard for the appeal of being hardcore. It was so cybernetic, dystopian & alienated sounding during 2002-2018 it was sucha different genre, it felt so nasty during those times but now, idk what can i say to it, buncha random laser noises and weird wobble that i think it's better if you put that a sidefx into a goregrind album. It's overlyproduced and trying so hard that i would rather listen to gorenoise and blacknoise than this. While one of it's most famous subgenre (Deathstep) has stayed on it's roots and i like it that way, deathstep is still my go thru since they don't try so hard, they really want to appeal something, they just make something cinematic, gothic & creepy and just drops, they don't overlyproduced it, same thing goes thru minatory, the genre has it's harshest during 2014-2016 and it wasn't also overproduced, now modern minatory mostly now focuses on occultist atmosphere and I still quite like it Forgot to mention many great genre died Like: Robostep Neurostep Drumstep Complextro Deep dub And Glitch-hop(Moombahcore) Due to its tryhard progression
As much as I love these introspective videos into the genre, they rarely touch on the resurgence of old school style dubstep with the 140 bpm experimental scene coming from labels like Deep Dark and Dangerous with artists like Truth and Distinct Motive, Of The Trees, and much more. Dubstep has evolved but into so many more genres than brostep. Stuff like riddim, experimental, space bass, and so many more. Great video overall though!
great vid ! just a little thing i found confusing : this video lacks some actual music examples, would have been much more comprehensive for those who are not familiar with theses genres, other than that nice work man keep it up !
What's funny is that old UK dubstep wasn't even Skrillex' biggest influence. He was influenced by Justice, Aphex Twin and Nine Inch Nails. You throw those in a pan with just a hint of dubstep and boom you get early Skrillex.
10 mins isn't really enough time to cover it but I would have mentioned how the original sound is still thiving today. White Peach, Duploc and Juan Forte are a drop in the ocean when it comes to record labels flying the flag
My favorite dubstep moment was when Skrillexius Maximus posted the flim track by aphex twin saying he was the reason he got into making music and all his fans were like "YO WHERE'S THE DROP BRO???".
Super cringe lol
@@soygenial111 It was indeed super cringe.
I think the song was xtal not flim but yeah
@@dopey473 It was flim bro, just looked it up. It's pretty cringe either way
@@shredderly yeh it was flim my bad but this was in like early to mid 2010s i think most skrillex fans matured by now
funny thing is that skrillex has recently been bringing the genre more down to earth to the roots it came from. He's really pushing the sound, while a lot of other US based dubstep producers are stuck in the 2010's sound.
also gotta give credit to labels like Deep Medi and 1985 music that keep focussing on the deep sound; still has a huge following in the underground
Yes and no, if you hear what's coming out nowadays under the "dubstep" genre, you can tell the change, as the older Skrillex stuff sounds very dated. Over the years they've blended with elements of trap, psytrance, complextro, you name it. The one thing that's stayed consistent is that they've kept going for harder and harder drops
Eh, he is better at making electronic music than trying to rip off the whining vocal style from Green-182
The most recebnt Skrillex material is actually much closer to garage than dubstep.
but, peeps. Brostep also gave us: Rusko - Everyday (Netsky Remix)
And I know, it is much brostep (technically drumstep I think?) but it is a banger. Fight me!
edit: maybe it's the nostalgia speaking. At the start of 2010 it was all the rage and I started college back then.
@@Quadr44t"drumstep" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING RETARD😂😂😂
All of you, actually. What a bunch of mouth-breathers.
Also just to let you guys know brostep didn’t just birth out the usa it actually started with uk based acts such as rusko and coki. Artist such as these had much more aggressive style of dubstep and sounds familiar with brostep whilst still having that heavy low end bass from old school dubstep.
If you check out coki has a track could SpongeBob where he takes SpongeBobs laugh and turns it into a wobbling baseline. Definitely a precursor to brostep.
tearout dubstep such as coki is definitely a precursor to- or even what led to brostep, but i think theres a fine line that divides the two
@@doofus_dummy true and despite us based bands trying to up the ante with their style of brostep nothing they made could hold a candle to cokis goblin. That track is probably the filthiest track thing I’ve heard.
Coki's stuff was energetic and aggressive, and he DEFINITELY influenced Skrillex, but calling it brostep is an insult.
@@VuotoPneumaNN didn’t mean to call it brostep lol that is definitely an insult I didn’t mean to suggest.
"skrillex invented brostep" mfs when they hear doctor p's sweet shop for the first time
Ah yes, my favorite electronic music genre, *SKRILLEXCORE*
A fellow w^w^^w^w listener in the wild
@@gl1tch592 Hello fellow Car Bomb enthusiast
Is that a car bomb album cover?
@@brennendodd187 It is. One of the best album covers of all time
based and car bomb-pilled
Everyone seems to blame Skrillex for "ruining" dubstep even though Rusko had made Woo Boost a few years before Skrillex blew up.
real
yeah but Skrillex had a toe in the metal scene so he brought all the metalheads, and Scary Monsters was a lot heavier than anything Rusko had ever put out
Moreso Coki released tracks like Spongebob years before both of them
Rusko played with the EQ but kept the grooves similar… skrillex disassembled the groove entirely replacing it with metal-style breakdowns
@@BarDownBoys and the beat got simplified to the exact same thing every time, Skream has tonnes of different beats that arent the typical "dubstep beat" just like with drum and bass got reduced to that same beat every pendulum song has
Just saw Rusko and Skrillex on Sunday at EDC México.
That shit was fucking awesome, seeing both sides of the scene is fucking awesome.
Fuck you purists, all my homies love Skrillex and dubstep.
That ain't Dubstep you twit.
Yo totally, imagine having fun. I think these Brits are just salty that they got their genre stolen.
Music enjoyers unite
I’m a Brit and I love Skrillex and “Brostep” sounds. That was what made my school years so Awesome. It’s mostly the older crowd who get all elitist and spiteful about it. Anyone who was in their teens during the early 2010s, have fond memories of it.
Bro for fucking real bro, I hate the “all my homies hate Skrillex” ahh purist mfs. Idc if you are sad I want a bass drop dropped on my face.
If you were to confine dubstep's history to just the UK you would probably find that it still had a dizzying plethora of styles that were mostly regional, since in London around 2011 Benga, Skream, Coki, Sukh Knight etc. were creating tracks that were focused around singular basslines and minimalist structures, whereas artists on the Circus Records label and the like took more cues from American dubstep as an alternative as this was the less underground and more EDM friendly form of dubstep. Then there were artists in Bristol like Culprate and KOAN Sound as well as Feed Me who were more influenced by Aphex and Squarepusher and later fused dubstep with sounds taken from neurofunk drum and bass and were considered to be part of the Bass Music subcategory
shoutout to Alix Perez and 1985 crew for carrying and constantly setting new boundaries for the darker and more sinister 140, half time, and anything beyond 160
Real shit. Visages, Shades (Alix and Eprom), Drone, and Monty are fucking MONSTERS
Shoutout to DUPLOC too
Listening to a Headland set right now 😈
Fact @@h.l4650
honestly didnt expect colour bass to get a shout out, awesome video!
That stuff is all trash
I'm seeing more and more people talking about what dubstep really used to be and I like that.
As a massive dubstep fan you've done a pretty good job covering it in a short video. Another thing to note is oddly it dying in the mainstream's eyes has actually been a really good thing for the genre as basically only people who actually want t produce it have stuck around so there's now quite a lot of mainstay name in Dubstep who have been doing it a while and creating quality stuff.
Biggest issue with it has been homogeneity. Excision/flux/zomboy makes new sound. Next 6 months every track is using that sound. Till the new sound comes out. Gets real samey.
@@swim3530Eh yes and no. This is what I mean by those mainstay artists. A lot of the "I'll copy this dude" only stick around for 2 or 3 yrs, the Ganja White Night's, Rusko's, Excision's, Xaebor's, Basnectars etc etc etc stick around making their own sound that is quite recognisable to them specifically and as a result tend to actually stick around for a long while.
@@swim3530 Go away from festival dubstep, it's all shit. And I say that as a person who used to love that oppressive crap when I was a teenager lol
@@Pyrimo Bassnectar is pretty much gone now after the allegations lol
@@negative6442Uh oh him too? Bad enough Datsik turned out to be a fucking rapist
Also worth mentioning the glory of metalstep. You know, Korn’s Path Of Totality album, Jiluka etc.
Ahhh Path Of Totality AKA KoRn's absolute, undisputed musical rock bottom. That album is trash.
Finally someone else who likes metalstep
@@nihil4535 LOL the self-titled i's one of their best albums.
There's a difference between industrial metal and metalstep
@notatrolliswear i think they're mostly progressive metalcore
Since prog. Genres tend to be confusing and experimental
While narcissistic cannibal is definitely metalstep if not cyber metal
As a certified autistic zoomer my primary memories of "brostep" come from Geometry Dash, specifically the boatload of "Nine Circles levels" that flooded the GD community in 2015.
Geometry Dash (at least until 2.2) sourced all its music from the Newgrounds audio portal, and there was a guy on there called NIGHTkilla (he also went by "Realistik" and "Rukkus") who was essentially the Skrillex of Newgrounds. He started off making the kind of generic techno music you'd hear in flash games in the late 2000's, but in 2011 pivoted to making brostep after Skrillex blew up. Anyway, fast forward to January 2015 when the ability to pick a custom song from Newgrounds had just been added and Geometry Dash was entering its first golden age. A guy named Zobros made a demon level called "Nine Circles" that used one of NIGHTkilla's songs, and in this level created a gimmick involving pairing the drop of a brostep song with extremely hard wave gameplay decorated by seizure-inducing flashing lights. The GD community went absolutely nuts over this and before long everyone and their grandma was picking a song from NIGHTkilla's discography and making their own Nine Circles remake with it. That trend forever cemented the whole brostep sound as rhythm game music or "gamer music" in general in my mind.
omg god I love NK!!! I didn't know that anybody was going to mentioned about him in the comments.
There's a bridge between the UK dubstep and the Skrillex dubstep, 2009 stuff from Rottun Records (Excision's label)
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Dubstep coming from Dub which stemmed from Reggae music
same
Dubstep didn't come from dub in a linear fashion so to speak. Following UK Garage peak in the late 90's more and more producers were experimenting with the darker and more intelligent styles of UK garage. You had Ghost recordings, Big Apple records and many more who were pushing this sort of darker 2 step sound. Eventually you had people from the Horsepower Productions crew and others alike who began making much more experimental type of sound. Benny Ill in particular, because of his influence from things like reggae and dub, the snares were "on the wrong beat". Creating more synocpated beats and utilised, far more wobbly snares, significant echo and reverb of things like movie samples, etc. At the time the sound was considered 'FWD beats' as it didn't fit within Grime or 2-step.
Oris Jay has spoken about when he was chatting witht Neil Joliffe and Sarah Lockhart (two very important people in the foundation of record labels such as Tempa, Ammunition Productions, Shelflife, and Soulja); they were discussing a track Benny Ill had made which to them kind of sound like 2-step but dub as well and then they coined 'dubstep.'
The reason why it's called dubstep was not because it 'came' from dub (not diminishing the importance of dub music or the Jamacians at all!) is because dub was almost used as a methodology for the reworking of these pop like UK garage beats and then stripping back the vocals, pushing the baseline forward, creating more darker and tripper garage music. Similar to what reggae is to dub; stripping back vocals, utilising tape delay for echo, wobby snare hits due to using spring reverb units etc. So that's kind of where the 'dub' aspect comes from. Not so much a 'linear' aspect as it was a methodology. It's hard to be totally specific because you can not deny the significant importance of the Jamacian influence on the development of british dance music (and worldwide too) and on british culture as a whole.
Some really good documentaries to watch are by BearingUK - That UK Sound. By far the most breadth and depth of Dubstep history but also touches on the influences of Jamacia on the UK in other documentaries.
This would be a great segway into Ignorant guide to Triphop.
yes I want this
Yes
Me being the only dude who actually likes brostep and metalstep because of the sound design
I’m 31 now and discovered dubstep/brostep in late 2011 while in college. I had never connected more with a genre of music in my life and to this day in 2024 it is predominantly my main taste in music. It’s has everything I look for in music. Relentless energy, aggression, colorful melody, abstract patterns and humor, not taking itself too seriously.
I’m not alone with these feelings either. My whole friend circle is into this stuff and my girl and I regularly attend brostep raves now in our 30s. It comes off a bit insulting talking only 12-year-olds like this kind of sound. Maybe so in your corner of the world but not here.
Skril didn’t blow up for no reason. The sound clearly appealed to people back then and the scene is still very much alive and well.
I am curious though. What kind of music do the people trashing on brostep listen to? I pretty much enjoy all music in some capacity and am always looking for new listening experiences!
The people trashing on brostep likely listen to what they call "real" dubstep. You can try artists like Skream and Burial for that.
It’s hard to explain, because it is a cultural thing. The name for the genre tells you everything you have to know about the culture underpinning it. I’ll let you do your own research about that.
Tbf most of us probably have an eclectic taste in music, both alternative and popular with a healthy appreciation for not only minimal dance genres, but beat production in the contexts of Afro-diasporan or “urban” styles of music (like hip hop, RnB, Dancehall). Soundsystem culture is also a massively important element thus Roots and Dub reggae are naturally some of the main vectors of interest and influence.
The issue with brostep is that it is a complete misrepresentation of the genre and, most importantly, the culture underpinning it.
In the case of the original genre, the word dubstep refers to all of these things that I described; whereas, in the case of brostep, the word dubstep basically refers to nothing outside of itself. If that that had actually been the case, then that would be fine, but dubstep properly speaking is actually not one of those genres, despite its ingenuity, that exists or was developed in that kind of a bubble.
Aside, to understand modern rap or especially RnB, not knowing proper dubstep leaves a massive gap in one’s appreciation, because modern beat production owes a lot more to the og genre than it did to the latter one.
There are a lot more artists than that.
I listen to a ton of genres ranging from the likes of (old) Dubstep and Trip-Hop to stuff like Experimental Hip-Hop, Ambient, Classical, Extreme Metal even Noise and niche shit like unironic Mongolian throat singing. Hell, I've known to jam to Kate Bush and Tom Waits, get weird with Aphex Twin and Death Grips, I've chilled with Portishead, gotten depressed to Radiohead, I've listened to rap in languages I don't understand a single word of, I've listened to and agreed with political protest songs, I've travelled the world through World music, I can take a candlelit bath with Enya or headbang to Gojira, I've walked through pitch-black forests listenin to Burzum and driven across rural landscapes with Willie Nelson. I may pop in 36 Chambers from Wu-Tang and do a 360 and listen to fucking Lemonade by Beyoncé after that. Who knows? I've got thousands of albums from hundreds of genres, and only because I can't afford tens of thousands of albums. Norwegian experimental electronic jazz? Love it. Brazilian tribal trash metal? Give it to me. Slovenian Avant-Garde industrial with a faux-Nationalist twist? Hit me up. South-African Electronic Hip Hop? I can dig it. Leftist protest music? Why not? 50s Rock n' Roll? Got it. Finnish Schlager? Yup.
But I can't fucking stand brostep. I unironically listen to and enjoy noise music, and I can't take Dubstep. Like check out Kingdom of Noise. That shit. I've listened it for fun several times. I might need to clease my palate afterwards with something like Brian Eno afterwards, but nonetheless, I can dig it. But not Skrillex. I can't listen to that shit. I've tried. It's like that fucking South Park episode, its' just farts to me.
Brings back memories of being a young child during my older sister’s dubstep hyperfixation. I swear we watched that one video of the dude dancing to the pumped up kicks remix’s everyday for months.
1:32 certified burial moment
Bruh that shit you had at 7:40 made me rewind like 6 times 😂
Even Skrillex has made some 2step shit back in 2014. Let's just not only talk shit about the guy. He contributed a lot to EDM.
pretty good coverage as a whole, although I still have yet to see a lot of talk about the 2008-2010 excision datsik bar9 doctorp flux pavillion type era, it wasn't just coki and benga night and then one day skrillex changed everything, it was definitely a gradual change.
There's also so much forgotten to history, like riddim's origins being essentially any song that sounds like subfiltronik's passout until it was changed to a catch all term for repetitive dubstep and that phase where "trench" was a genre and then was collectively decided was out of ideas after precisely 2 months.
Tearout was a word at some point and I could have sworn dubloadz tried to make "savage wonk" a thing but this video was nice and good have a lovely day mr coolea
This dude didn't even mention UKF Dubstep which put on all of the artists you mentioned and more who were taking dubstep in a more chaotic and energetic direction before Skrillex came into the scene. The title didn't lie.
Funny, Brostep is what I called Pewdiepie fan music back in the early 2010s.
Real.
Can we please have an Ignorant Guide to Hard Bass????
BURIAL MENTIONED 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
this mix up of genre names in the general public reminds me a lot of what is happening to the hip hop sub genre phonk for over 2 or 3 years now
Man i've really grown to love these videos, always waiting for a new one!😄 Also your soundcloud has some really nice songs, "This shit makes me feel like im walking on air" is so gooood!
Absolutely fantastic video. Really enjoy the concept of this UA-cam channel
I love dubstep
Same
This video is very flawed for numerous reasons:
1. You didn’t explain how dubstep lead to brostep with brostep’s precursor of “dubstep tearout” music from the late 2000s, where dubstep began to emphasis mid-range basslines and being more party-oriented, while keeping the dark atmosphere and grooves of dubstep at the time. This sub-genre of dubstep is still made by some people today, most notably Hamdi, who collaborated with Skrillex recently.
2. Imagine painting Skrillex as a villain (even if it’s irony) when he’s mainly responsible for a new massive and diverse genre of music, and when he’s been making actual dubstep/grime in the past couple of years; Skrillex has a LOT of respect for the UK sound.
3. “Riddim” emerged from OG dubstep tearout, with the main OG pioneers of “Riddim” being Infekt and Subfiltronik. I would listen to Infekt - Orgalorg and Subfiltronik - Monsters to get a good idea of what “Riddim” initially sounded like. I say “Riddim”, because the name started as a joke because “Riddim” refers to the rhythm section in Jamaican dancehall music, but just like “Brostep” the name stuck despite being a joke.
Infekt actually wants people to call it “trench” instead, based on an old idea from brostep OG “Getter”, who has collaborated with Joji before, even when Joji was “Pink Guy”. Getter has also collaborated with Oliver Tree.
4. You didn’t describe Colour Bass very well; Colour Bass is a sub-genre of brostep that keeps the energy and heaviness of brostep, but places an even heavier emphasis on melody and… color (gee who would have guessed). I would highly recommend listening to “Colour Bass Vol. 3” to get a good taste of what the genre sounds like, although not every genre is “Colour Bass”.
Well, only 2 songs off of Colour Bass Vol. 3 aren’t colour bass. (Radio Silence and Lost)
*Coki - Spongebob* was one of the first experiments with focus on the the face-melting midbass. Worth checking out.
there's a construction site near a bus stop i use and recently i heard them playing some brostep noise and I was like 'wow, i haven't heard that shit in years'
For a future video, do one on acid house. It's kinda like the OG EDM (if you ignore Chicago). And unlike the common thread of the US ruining everything, time they spawned an amazing new musical style (but then forgot about it).
I suggested the same thing mins ago, absolutely based!
Been getting into a lot of Riddim stuff that's been produced 2018-pres. I actually like some of it & it shows that it still works. I love the fact that the genre is back to being underground again. Some bangers I listen to max out 50,000 views on here. Aweminus' stuff for example is a great artist for those who like the heavy stuff & want a more consistent darker tone. Really depends on the tone people prefer from it. Some of it, I will say, does sound like crap to me though. I find to be skipping 60% of tracks on my Riddim autoplay. Some of it is a bit too much in some areas, such as overly aggressive drops & builds that last way too long with little payoff when the drop comes.
You a real rimming fan
we had a bunch of fun in the scene back then with it man, some of the best times... going back to 2013 riddim
Riddim rocks hard. When I'm talking to people about what music I listen to, I say Riddim and they're usually like "What's that?". I just tell them it's Evil Dubstep and they understand, especially when I show them SVDDEN DEATH
Burial is one of very few electronic music producers than can make me cry
I'll admit I was one such 12yo that got waaaay to much into the genre in the 2010s, simpler times they were.
3:12 "But for me actively pisses me off"
Woah boy. I feel that.
I very much fuck with the new "dubstep," but lean heavily towards riddim and tearout/deathstep in that case. It's doodoo white noise all around, but brain likey. Half the reason I listen to all the Metal I do, too.
Although I'm also a staunch defender of Dubstep being the old-school variety. Fantastic artists mentioned in the video like Skream, Benga, Digital Mystikz and Burial - I would also like to recommend Mala, SP:MC, J:Kenzo, Egoless and Truth. Lots of greats are active to this day, too. Truth's label - Deep Dark & Dangerous - is a great place to find new artists, alongside DUPLOC. Lots of fantastic labels!
Personally, I would've loved for Minatory to get a bit more popular. It has been super underground for many years by now, but there's some incredible subgenres being explored. I think dungeon minatory might be a bit esoteric, but it hits a very slow, haunting vibe with lots of lows. Minatory as a whole still leans on lots of jarring noises, due to having some roots in Deathstep/Brostep, but typically it's accompanied by actual instruments and atmosphere. Choirs without end. Lots of video game samples being used for storytelling purposes. Also best snares you'll hear in any music genre, fight me.
Few recommendations with two caveats; they're mostly found on Soundcloud or Bandcamp, and you gotta get in the "noise not music" mindset.
Carthus - Domain of Reflection, SCARRED - Enshrined Anguish (sounds like the devil talking), Havel x Influx - The Hundred Year War, Malice - Plague
Sorry for horrible formatting but ain't nobody readin' alladat.
If you did, here's a song I've had on repeat lately. Idk about its genre ngl. retvrn - dawn
As a Dubstep fan, I don't think Minatory will ever escape the underground. I've listened to a couple Minatory tracks. They all sound like white noise over drums. Compare that to Riddim, which has discernible rhythms and harmonic adjustments to provide tonality, and I will pick Riddim because of the capacity for tonality. I think Colour Bass or Future Riddim could go mainstream.
@@victorheras5882Oh you're right, Minatory will never see the light of day, but a man can dream. Colour Bass and Future Riddim have both been very close already, so I wouldn't be surprised. I just want more strings, guitar and actual drum kits in my electronic music :')
@@lukaz20001does minatory even go that guitar and strings route? Maybe it's because I heard too little of minatory but for me it seems like literal harsh snares and leads (not saying it's bad tho)
@@statera_forever Yeah I think you're mostly right. There's some artists that employ guitar a lot. Apothecide has a lot of metal influences, to the point where most of his newer tracks are IDed as Industrial Metal lmao. Gnarl Wrought comes to mind, too, but it is a snare-fest with leads and lots of bass overall. Still geared more towards bassheads than metalheads ig
Old Moth had the orchestrals going for it that actually made it kind of a vibe, I want more 2014 moth
I made beats on PlayStation back in the day😂🍻
Spent a lot of time in high school listening to brostep and its variations, but eventually moved on. In more recent years I began to explore 90s genres of rave music and their modern counterparts such as Breakbeat Hardcore>DnB, or Gabber>Uptempo Hardcore. Perhaps my former love of brostep explains my current obsession with some of these genres. For example I find some extratone feels weirdly similar to brostep.
Colour bass fan here, I really didn't expect you to mention colour bass. Thanks
Video was so good i went to like it and saw i already had
broo the reasearch you did one this one is insanee!!
would also love to see you cover memphis rap.
It's actually a bit inaccurate.
insane? lmao. no. those are just basic facts. innaccurate at times
It's really not. It's an ignorant guide, the title doesn't lie.
ha! I got Like #666. I deserve a medal.
I remember checking out the early dubstep back around 2007-08 when I was first really exploring electronic music in depth. Skream and Burial were very interesting, but that brostep movement came along so fast that I pretty much stop checking out any artist with dubstep as a description.
I was little surprised with no mention of Rusko, who i remember being the first one i ever heard of, couple of years before Skrillex blew up. Rusko was also one of the creators of the brostep sound. Another one was Datsik.
I need a guide to trap metal. As a fan of the genre, that would be hilarious
Don't do it please no
Started listening to Dubstep in 2008 with Reso. It was something I never heard of. I dove head first. Found TC, Caspa, Skream, Burial, along with Excision, Rusko, Datsik (eeshhh). I still evolved with the genre though, whether it's your crazy ATLiens, Crankdat, Subtronics, down to J:Kenzo, Truth and everything in between. Look, I completely understand where people are coming from when it comes to the whole dislike of "brostep". It's not for everyone, but it is always rooted back to people that listened to skrillex once, clutched their pearls, and held on tight to their old ways. Genres shift and evolve so it was bound to happen. We're actually in an amazing time for dubstep because people are coming up with more interesting sounds and some even enhancing the UK sound. Hamdi, Levity, and even Skrillex pushing boundaries again within the space with less of moshing railbreakers.
For me personally, I love it all. Heavy neckbreakers, low end deep dubstep, color bass. wonky and whatever else gives me a feeling of moving or vibing.
I'm 35 now and still open to new sounds in any genre. Sure, some artists don't land for me, but I'm not going to hate on others for enjoying it. I have countless new artists I can find that fits my taste.
Dubstep became a marketing name for the new hyped genre big festivals would use it it would attract visitors wanting to expirience this new ''genre'' of music..the name..would sell fast and fill the places,with a sound that took the name but didnt take the sound with it.... To further understand pls read.
Dubstep comes from dub, a derivative of reggae essentially focusing on the bass and the drum patterns and adding lots of echoes and other elctronic elements into it all incorporated also in og dubstep ,usually at 60-90bpm .
It comes from 2step a derivative of house music with a breakbeat and often very heavy basslines wich was being mixed at parties with dub and also grime elements usually on 120-140 bpm
And from dnb elements or dnb elements wich is breakbeats and bass usually on 160-170ish bpms essentially its made to enter a state of bass meditation not screamo electro noises done by american emos, skrillex was literally a emo coming from screamo music wich explains his music wich isnt dubstep.
Dubstep took the Dub basses added the 2 step ish wobbles, mixed dub drums with 2 stpe drumd with dnb breaks and the distortions and wobbles from dark dnb, often it had very meditative style but it could also go bonkers with distorted basslines similar to dark dnb.....all that remained and all that was incorporated all that was essential and the main goal was to vibe with extreme deep basslines to enter a transcendental state even. The main key are deep basslines with or without wobble and distortions... often in true dubstep parties the only genre played are dub and dubstep(dare to play skrillex might get you bottled no joke).
Ppl who not once in their life has been in a dark underground dubstep club filled with weed smoke being emerged by dub plates....will have a hard time to understand what the feeling is or was,the sound coming out of it dont even need any distortion or wobble or any harsh drums to exist...to be dubstep, thats something american producers seemed to not being able to understand.
if you take away dub and 2step and dnb elements all of wich have made dubstep to become dubstep....then you cannot create dubstep.
Skrillex is metallic harsh sounding drums on 140bpm and instead of an emo screaming u hear screaming ''basslines''without dub without sub all mid range all high pitched , skrillex and anyone who makes sounds like him or the riddim sounds are essentially electronic emo music or also known as brostep... it is not dubstep.
In case you wanna know how actual Dubstep sounds....
check these artists out
digital mystikz,gemmy,skream,radikal guru check out their sound
then listen to skrillex first hits and tell me if you genuinely still think its the same genre
I am once again asking for *an ignorant guide to jungle*
The ecto and berrix clips are absolutely perfect in placement.
I’m hearing a lot of yappin about Americans when really the Canadians really took it to the ridiculous level
Datsik & Excision
You should maybe do an ignorant guide to one of my fav dance genres of all time - acid house
On second thought, you probably shouldn't. I have a feeling you'll probably trash it by calling it "noise" than music. Just like with the majority of ignorant casuals who think of dance/electronic styles to be just loud or soulless music 🤣
@@tutubismanyone who'd refer to acid house as "noise" probably has never heard of hard techno, schranz, hardcore, rawstyle, crossbreed, darkcore, breakcore and a plethora of similar electronic genres.
acid house is chill, jazzy lounge music compared to that.
8:39 OMG you are so right, damn, I loved it before this!!!
Damn, I got into dubstep and electronic music in general because of geometry dash
video premise kind of hyped me, but seriously got me pissed me off when halfway through and didnt even hear a single part of any song as an example for what he was talking about, I know about this stuff but how can you go off about a music topic without giving actual examples to listen, even for like 10 seconds bits.
you should do a video on uptempo , if skrillex is too ridiculous for you
that's what I'm sayin, these people have no idea what actual crazy music sounds like 😂
Is it wrong to enjoy old school dubstep pre Skrillex, early Skrillex and even the newer stuff nowadays? I feel like there’s space to have appreciation for it all and just enjoy seeing it evolve and change over time. Whatever it is, bass music in all forms is still the best
Thank you for making this
Midtempo Bass is next up.
Can you do a video on industrial metal or groove metal
You should do industrial music next
8:05 That's like the most funniest fictional story I have ever heard of their was one not gonna lie.
Caspa and Dubpolice also use to be a thing back then. They had some awesome artists on their books.
What is the name of this Aphex Twin dubstep compilation you are referring to?
One quick google search reveals that Richard was not involved with compiling the project for Rephlex. Alongside some other quirks I noticed, and some extremely obvious things you stated. It makes me wonder: did you actually do research?
an ignorant guide to riddim dubstep would be cool
such good conclusion. thankyou
Oh yes 13 year old me loved enjoying the sound of my ears absorbing all kinds of dinosaur techno noises.
Being actively pissed off by reloads is crazy
You couldn’t be more wrong about dubstep falling out of the mainstream
"She want the burger she dont want the lettuce"
This video reminds me of that video called "all my homies hate skrillex"
We went from "Come meditate on a bass weight" to huge festivals with "dubstep" artists that weren't dubstep at all. By the point Untrue was released and Sonny Moore left From First To Last to became Skrillex, things got really different.
I spent some friday late nights listening to the Radio 1's Essential Mix between 2007 and 2015, and it was a really interesting downhill. Not really bad at all but still a downhill; the USA artists were somewhat uninteresting, but UK and Canadians (who were an extreme that I particularly liked) didn't disappointed me.
This video is some purist, heavily biased, tainted opinion sprinkled with false claims disguised as an informative video about the history of dubstep.
Much love to all producers out there, don't let this discourage you from experimenting
hehe i love brostep i think its fun ive got a local band that does hardcore straightedge dubstep super fun bunch of death metal influence
I honestly think dubstep just went down because they're trying a bit too hard the same way deathcore did to their genre. It's blatant boring nowadays and just want to sound hard for the appeal of being hardcore.
It was so cybernetic, dystopian & alienated sounding during 2002-2018 it was sucha different genre, it felt so nasty during those times but now, idk what can i say to it, buncha random laser noises and weird wobble that i think it's better if you put that a sidefx into a goregrind album. It's overlyproduced and trying so hard that i would rather listen to gorenoise and blacknoise than this.
While one of it's most famous subgenre (Deathstep) has stayed on it's roots and i like it that way, deathstep is still my go thru since they don't try so hard, they really want to appeal something, they just make something cinematic, gothic & creepy and just drops, they don't overlyproduced it, same thing goes thru minatory, the genre has it's harshest during 2014-2016 and it wasn't also overproduced, now modern minatory mostly now focuses on occultist atmosphere and I still quite like it
Forgot to mention many great genre died
Like:
Robostep
Neurostep
Drumstep
Complextro
Deep dub And Glitch-hop(Moombahcore)
Due to its tryhard progression
Do trance and house next!
As much as I love these introspective videos into the genre, they rarely touch on the resurgence of old school style dubstep with the 140 bpm experimental scene coming from labels like Deep Dark and Dangerous with artists like Truth and Distinct Motive, Of The Trees, and much more. Dubstep has evolved but into so many more genres than brostep. Stuff like riddim, experimental, space bass, and so many more. Great video overall though!
3:09 Excuse me wtf is that, this has no business being this funny xd
I LOVE DUBSTEP ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
THANKS 🙏👍
Really accurate work 🤌
Can I get the link for the 7:19 I remember seeing this one when I was like 10-11 HOLY.
i remember the very moment dubstep made its way to east texas
It's the hardest I've ever seen a genre ruined by one person. The fact that Skrillex did an album with *Korn* is vomit-inducing.
He's a good lad, called it brostep. Curses on skrillex and transformer noises
FWD sound / breakstep is the most short-lived and interesting niche of 2000s uk bass paradigm or whatever
me and my homies hate excision
Oh no he's talking about a genre I like
please do phonk next
we need more people to know what actual phonk is like
GIVE US THE IGNORANT GUIDE TO HARD DANCE
i wanna see you rip into some modern xtra raw and uptempo lmao
the new dubstep is sick now
burial my beloved
I unironically thought that Dubstep was a dead genre after 2013 lmao
great vid ! just a little thing i found confusing : this video lacks some actual music examples, would have been much more comprehensive for those who are not familiar with theses genres, other than that nice work man keep it up !
You mentioned skream wow
Pretty accurate video
What's funny is that old UK dubstep wasn't even Skrillex' biggest influence. He was influenced by Justice, Aphex Twin and Nine Inch Nails. You throw those in a pan with just a hint of dubstep and boom you get early Skrillex.
Where's the drop?
@gx1tar1er good reference
Bauhaus (the truth) when?
riddim mentioned ❤🔥
fun fact: Burial is one of skrillex's favorite artists, that's why he is always flirting with UK Garage
10 mins isn't really enough time to cover it but I would have mentioned how the original sound is still thiving today. White Peach, Duploc and Juan Forte are a drop in the ocean when it comes to record labels flying the flag