Grandpa Perk REWORK Changes Everything... | The Texas Chain Saw Massacre: Video Game
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Now that Nobody Escapes Hell is a level 3 perk Victims can now escape even faster.
Do not forget how quick you can die as well. One mistake is sometimes enough.
Yep, they have turned it into yet another useless gramp perk. By the time its up, all the doors will be open anyway. They should just get rid of gramp perks altogether at this point.
Probably not even going to bother feeding grandpa now. Waste of time to get him to level 3 for any useful perks just for one stab (doesn’t even have to have agitator) to take it all away.
Any decent victim players will have everything open by then anyways. Not to mention victims will now have the knowledge of what grandpa perks are active or not based purely on his level. Bad change.
Honestly family only feeds gramps like 30% of the time. I play about 4-6 matches a day (or try to) and only about every other day does a team feed gramps past level 1. This update is just another catering to crybaby’s. Waste of resources that could go toward new game content imo.
sad part is, its not even really a rework to the perks themselves. we NEED some buffs to some of the more useless perks
Yea all perks for both sides need to be even, but high up
They said game changing Grandpa updates??
One thing they could do is take away the notification of what level grandpa reaches. Still show that he’s leveled up, but leave the number out of it so if a victim isn’t paying attention they won’t know how strong he is
@pacemaker2010 also take away the on screen notification letting victims know when he's going to yell.
That's fuckin stupid level fine that no @@jblank2215
You made a great point, victims will know that exterior alarms is at level 3, thus creating a stronger rush meta. As before, victims did not know if and when exterior alarms would be activated at what level. For me, it is leaning towards the benefit of the victims side.
Let this be the "please stream for us slash" button ❤️
Yeah me and my friends have already decided that camping is the only option now. There's no point wasting all that time to feed Grandpa for them to stab him and you never have any good perks anyway. With the rush meta and now no Exterior Alarms, there won't be any point in actively patrolling. So it looks like it will be someone sitting on battery, someone sitting on gen, and hands watching the fuse and valve. It sucks and it will be boring, but it's the pretty much the only viable option left now.
Not even gonna bother feeding grandpa now. Was no reason before due to high level rushers, even less reason now lol
Now Victims only have to stab Grandpa level 3 or above. Below that, his perks are garbage.
Awful change, which will result in simply no one feeding Grandpa anymore. The opposite of what they intended.
I find it funny the other day on reddit one of the top posts was about how useless Maria is because alot of family players don't ever bother feeding grandpa so he never levels up. And now they've done a change which discourages family from feeding him at all and those same people are acting like family members are being over dramatic. Most matches Maria's going to be running without a power lmao.
Victims been the problem for months now it's even worse instead of fixing it to help everyone out they make it a miserable experience for family players yep tcm done ran its course for me
Youre fully mad.
I can see family not leveling grandpa up at all.
Grandpa needs a perk where he someone stabs him he reaches out and holds in to that victim for a few seconds 🤣
He needs perk for if he's going get stabbed he hits the. With his mallet and stuns victim for 10 seconds
That doesn't really fix anything. People regularly only feed gramps for their own abilities. Gramps has no good perks besides exterior alarms lol this won't change anything people just won't feed him. Gramps is useless in high level play.
Useless? Wall hacks are useless? Are you sure about that? I get what you're trying to say, but I disagree. Gramps is useful.
@@BrickDaniels-qu7bzif you waste time feeding grandpa the victims will have already opened some kind of exit while you do it. He is absolutely worthless now.
@@BrickDaniels-qu7bzNo, grandpa is useless in high level play. I have over 560 hours in the game, and can confirm that against good rushing victims you have zero time to feed grandpa you have to patrol immediately.
When I play family nobody fricken feeds him 😂😂
Still.
They need to make it so the surface family members don’t see the leatherface cut scene or something they need more time to set up Especially with this change coming to the game
How much more time!? Yal got plenty
@@OddlySFno we actually don’t 😂
@@RickyhoImes i play family! Theres plenty time, youre just one of those guys who probably plays solo and doesnt use a mic..
@@OddlySF Way to project I never said you didn’t play family, there are games where A Connie is in car battery within 15 seconds, or someone jumped window within the same time limit you definitely love the Rush meta huh? 🤣
@@RickyhoImes projection? No.. im just letting you know that im experienced there. When i play family, no one is escaping that fast because i use my mic and play with friends haha
This seems like it’s gonna further encourage victims to rush, when rushing is already as bad as it’s ever been right now.
Just put sissy universal donor on left side. Why she got best blood stats but can’t combine any of her best blood perks? That’s crazy tbh
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if people dont want to feed grandpa even in this meta, why do people think they are gonna get encouraged to feed him more? agitator still exists, maria is going to be the ultimate counter if they do feed and virginia has her lvl 3 anti blood ability, if family feeds grandpa and runs blood builds they are actively throwing the game, especially with danny and connie who can get objectives done in seconds, grandpa is dead and he will play no part in the game at higher levels, this is coming from someone who is a quick match main and loves playing victim, imo this is a very bad decision from the devs, maria will basically have no use from her ability since family players will most likely refuse to feed grandpa. either nerf anti granpa perks/abilitys or buff blood builds.
They could always speed up the feed animation a bit. Let's just wait and see.
Not really. Maria is ass and outclassed by Agitator.
He Livesss!! Personally this is a really bad idea from Gun if there isn't a victim rushing nerf that comes into the game at the same time. The victim queues before this update has even come around has jumped around to 2+ minutes again already. Either way looking forward to you guys streaming again.
Use perks like vial-ent that give you more damage while carrying blood. Don't even bother feeding grandpa until you have two victims dead. It's a waste of time.Just protect your exits and use him to weed out the last couple victims
I don't think this is going to help. I think it's going to be worse
This game needs a fear mechanic that is exasperated by waking up grampa/being noisy/proximity to Family etc, that negatively effects things like movement (rubber legs/stumbles), skill checks, and maybe cause visual distortion. Some Family should be more terrifying than others, LF should be more terrifying than Cook, for instance. Victims could have a new stat like Bravery so each has more or less resistance to fear effects. Something like that. Give Victims a reason to be stealthy and fight the rush that way.
Or I guess they could just go with this Grandpa perk Band-Aid.
Honestly theres no point in even feeding grandpa anymore..... with maria then this. The only time it will be worth it is if you have 1 or 2 players left. Exterior alarms is crucial at family house. Just honestly my crew we arent even going to worry about feeding anymore
No one's feeding grandpa anymore and the exit rush has returned 💀💀
I'm going to call this right now before shit hits the fan. This change long term will get reverted family players will no longer try to feed grampa any more there is no point if the good perks are at level 3. Also with the rush meta this will make even worse to feed gramps this will change back there is no way the devs will leave its pretty bad. I'm good with nerfing the family but not like this.
We need to solve the issue of fans waking up grandpa before the leatherface cut scene even ends. To do this we need to have the victims watch a cutscene long enough for everyone to start at the same time. This will reduce the rushing that victims usually do
Have them out of their restraints at the same time Leather face gets active. So instead of the pointless mini game to escape your restraints it will be a cutscene.
NO. Stop crying and play SMARTER
As a solo victim I can't stand when victims wake grandpa right away. It's usually someone trying to speed run and they don't say a damn word to anyone else. Mass chaos, everyone dying, and half the time they don't get out anyway.
That's way more obnoxious than the occasional speed team.
I’m sorry no…leatherfaces love to spawn kill…by the time we get out of restraints he’s already moving…if u removed that they’d spawn kill. And you’re saying we RUSH. Boy please, we rush because y’all do too much and tryhard. So yes i am going to rush, especially if given the opportunity. Especially with hands added to the game, you have to rush. I’m so tired, killers literally are op as is but these toxics ones complain. IF ANYTHING they needa be buffing victims.
We weren’t able to before because we leveled up stealth to get out quietly but family members complained that we were wiggling off too fast and collecting items quietly therefore they nerfed stealth and the rush meta came to be.
This is going to encourage victims to rush more at the start. I thought they were trying to move away from the rush meta?
They should then limit the amount of times you can stab Grandpa as a counter for this, then. 🤷
have grandpa walk the map and be able to grab, not harm, victims and alert the family, even though he is too old for that action. lol
Overall this is a nerf to grandpa. They claim in the post they want grandpa to be a bigger part of the match but this change discourages players from feeding him. The only upside is if family chooses 3 level 1 perks then all 3 can be active at Level 1.
To be honest, at least when i play with my friends, we rarely even get grandpa to level 1. We get 4ks consistently. We all been playin since launch. Not saying that Grandpa is worthless, but weve just learned to play without him
So just removed grandpa he is worthless even more now. You saying that just confirms it. Idk what they doing or how this was suppose to make him worth wild
Ok great… now victims know when suffocating grip is active. Now they can stab grandpa and grapple with almost impunity around the map. If they’re not going to rework the grapple mini game, suffocating grip needs to be a level one perk at minimum. Grappling is about to go crazy again… which is by far the least enjoyable thing about this game.
Holy shit he lives!!! Have missed you mate!
Who's idea was it to put the grandad stamina perk on lvl 3?
So does this mean Maria becomes more useful? She can get easy stabs on grandpa while safely disabling Hitch traps if he does go for the trapping grandpa strategy. I'm anticipating grandpa is gonna get stabbed at level 3 no matter what now lol at least you kinda know that's exactly when the victims are coming for him.
They really need to buff Maria, if she sweet talks she should be able to persuade grandpa to forbid all killers to be able to hit during those couple of seconds. This would help counter hands instead of nerfing him, it’s impossible to win w family house because of hands, so this would give us time to do something.
Victim rushing it's not gonna be easy to get him to even level 2. Surgical and fresh is best is gonna be meta on family and agitator gonna come clutch for victims. Also I think if devs wanna go through with this maybe they should add more blood buckets spawn in
Now Family needs to start the same as victims. It is absolutely imperative to have even a semblance of balance in this game.
Except Leatherface
@@vinayakbanerjee9903 Our face wearing friend can wait till the cutscene is over.
Mam.. this is an asym game! Not call of duty, siege or whatever bs game that got you thinking THIS one needs to be totally balanced.
@@OddlySF I said a semblance of balance asym doesn’t mean one side tips the scale completely in terms of power.
@@OddlySF Victim Main spotted
i hope they cant use that perk to remove 3 levels or whatever the amount is when they stab grandpa
Honestly, this will just encourage victims rushing again for the following reasons:
1. They now know how much time they have to rush gates and also know family will not be alerted if an exit is breached.
2. It will be faster to push through locks early on if family has no chances of getting no one escapes hell until L3.
3. Family will be forced to spend precious seconds gathering blood and protecting grandpa as opposed to patrolling objectives and exits
I'm a victim main and run agitator when I can so I would love to see this change hahaha.
This seems like a bad change. Games are going to be way quicker and it doesn’t balance the game. It feels like the meta keeps flip flopping from family or victims being OP
Ive been really excited playing again. Havent really played since danny came out. After 100 hrs of family main, I've decided to be a quick match main. 10 hrs in and i have yet to play as a victim lol.
I wouldn't even say this is a nerf. It's actually kind of better because now you aren't "forced" to run only Ext. Alarms, and can run 3 grandpa perks without worry. It will make blood builds much more useful. Now I don't have to worry if animal farm will be level 1. It does nerf exterior alarms, yes, but it does give more merit to other perks. Question is, what else would be a lvl 3 perk? No One Escapes Hell? Suffocating Grip?
Edit: I probably should've finished the video before commenting 😅 it will be interesting, and I can't wait.
Well at least the lobby times have gotten better since the update.😂😂
Riley, what do you think about all Family except Leatherface starting at the same time the victims start? Like get rid of the opening gallows kill for everyone except Leatherface since he's down in the basement with the victims.
I'd be down with this change.
If they do this they need to nerf rushing as well I’m gonna love playing victim again after this update
So they’re nerfing family I guess they don’t want people to play their game
There needs to be a way to make it harder for victims to get out of the basement like make it where victims need to look for an actual key instead of a lockpick to get out of the basement and have only one or two keys in there and the lock picks are only available outside the basement
Grandpa is not a priority, too many victim rush builds by the time you get exterior alarms (lvl3) game would be over! I was feeding grandpa less and patrolling more due to rushing.
Honestly all they really needed to do was rework exterior alarms. Make it so that basement doors no longer highlight when victims open them and that would've been enough.
I think a lot of people are going to start to understand how important exterior alarms helps prevent the rush meta.
I expect to see people playing leatherface more often
Hands barge is literally broken. Haven’t heard anything about that.
That’s because it’s hard to get one, what’re you talking about?
With these changes, buffs and nerfs for perks will follow. I’m also excited for Nancy buffs coming and fixes to stamina
I like the change. The only thing I would do different is place Nobody Escapes Hell in Level 2.
The only people that will like this is victim mains who want even faster escapes.
Facts 💯
@@AnnaLizaDominguez-ze7kwWell, the Most common result of my Games IS still all/Most victims getting killed..
What game are you playing?
Yeah this is not a good change. Grandpa isn't going to play a bigger role. He'll end up being ignored most games.
This is actually a good change this will show the people that would only run exterior alarms to actually open up your eyes an patrol I'm loving all my perks are at level 2 LOL or level one me and my brother only use suffocating grip or swinging for the fences always in sync well well well so honestly this is a buff for us you know we don't rely on exterior alarms that's how you get better
Yeah, and its pretty sad Family mains are crying about this grandpa perk rework, because they're so comfortable running OP perks such as Exterior alarms, Suffocating Grip because these are the perks they rely on to win, if Family players were actually good at the game they would try other perks instead of relying on strong Meta perks to win, When I play Family I dont rely too much on Strong Grandpa perks, as long as you communicate with your team, you dont really need to rely on Grandpa perks to win.
@@PrincessZelda2020 you are absolutely 100% communication is literally key to success either for family or victim people underestimate the power always in sync especially if you're running with Leatherface or if you play with a group of friends can you use animal farm in that one perk that chickens don't alert to you it is actually really good combo because you'll know if that chicken is going off at any reason there's a victim there like there is so many good combos you could run but a lot of people just relied on exterior alarms and no one escapes hell. Play slaughterhouse the Mill an Nancy's house well well well is GOATED or you can run suffocating grip with Dracula lol and swinging for the fences if you were a level one LF so any new LF's out there if you least run swinging for the fences you will not stall your chainsaw because it helps with his mayhem so if you have a level three and you're running swinging for the fences you have still half of your mayhem left after you miss a bad slam
If Family relies on Suffocating Grip to win, are you suggesting that Victims rely on Choose Fight and Grappler to win?
@@SlashNCastyes we use suffocating grip we're not allowed to use exterior alarm or no one escapes hell would you rather use the other grandpa perks like suffocating grip well well well or suffocating grip if we're not using a Leatherface with brute strength or if there is a Leatherface we'll just use swinging for the fences and always in sync because everybody benefits for swinging for fences especially for Johnny an Lf and if you was always in sync you can hear the characters a lot better and it calms down the chainsaw noise for bubba P.S I have permanently nerve damage in my right hand so it gives me some kind of advantage and my brother doesn't even need it lol
@@SteelHero68 Yes, and I always said for a long time that Exterior alarms is pretty OP because you know exactly where Victims are if they unlock one of the gates, because the door will be highlighted for Family, this change will encourage the use of other perks that Family barely use. TCM is neither Victim sided or Family sided, it is teamwork sided.
They broke the game.
Great video as always I look forward to see how the Grandpa Rework will affect the game
I really don’t like this change. It just makes Grandpa more useless during the match than he already was. He only has impact when the Family has an advantage (usually when there’s 1-3 victims left). It also makes the game more snowball-y where Grandpa either is having a feast or he is famished depending on the strength of the victims.
I wouldn’t mind this change as much if they changed how much blood Grandpa losses when he gets stabbed. You never have time to feed to lvl 1 against good victims. Then when you do feed, he gets stabbed almost instantly and so it feels like a waste of time. If they made it where how much each stab was worth dependent on Grandpa’s lvl (stabbing at lvl 1 only take away 25 blood where stabbing at lvl 5 takes away 200) then Family would have more incentive to feed Grandpa.
Saw this one coming for a while. Already play a bloody cook and am good at keeping gramps at a high level
This is dumb
Suffocating grip is the only one ive ever really used
exterior alarms at tier 3 is a bad call, that perk is straight up mandatory to have active as soon as possible against a good stacked team if you want to even remotely stand a chance. Now 4 stacks will be virtually unstoppable unless you run the OP combo (cook, hitchhiker, hands) which is honestly boring that you rarely ever see any other family members besides these three nowadays.
Suffocating grip should be lvl 1 perk
Suffocating Grip level 1 and nobody escapes hell at level 2. I would argue making Exterior level 2 as well but removing it's scan of basement doors altogether...
One of the most pointless updates I've seen and a complete waste of time, only to make the game worse than it currently is
I think this is a good and bad change it helps family to use skill and not just always need exterior but like you said it also encourages camping and due to the heavy rush meta i think most family players will give up on feeding grandpa becouse agitator can just reset granpa constantly and theirs already no time for family to collect blood
This makes nobody escapes help damn near useless. This is a dumb change!
Sounds interesting we’ll have to see thanks for the update
Its going to be interesting change family wont be as op now exterior and nobody escapes hell will be level 3 but ye they'll be alot more camping or using savagery builds and going for the kill. Family still should be the stronger side at the end of the day so we'll see
Animal Farm is a underrated grandpa perk
Welcome back slashncast
Victims will be way stronger after that. And stabbing gramps is really no Problem. It will ruin a lot of things. I would unverstanden a nerf of some perks like Exterior alarm or "neh" but this is will hit hard for family mains
Its hard enough for the family as it is
Terrible rework. Victims will never let family to lvl 3 unless they trap grandpa. Witch making family camp more witch victims hate already are they trying to kill there game.
Never gets old watching the crybabies cry
@@RickyhoImes who crying, am just State facts, I hardly play anymore. Rather work on back log.
@@cyber7148 then, if you hardly play, don’t make content on it
@@RickyhoImes I can cover what ever I want it's my channel. Kick rocks
@@cyber7148 you can say the game is dead however, many times you want it’s alive, kick rocks
I hope you're live tonight i miss the TCM streams and you putting people to sleep
Seems like it’ll be easier for victims to rush more since they don’t hav to worry about the big grandpa perks. Plus most of not all family players will still just use the level 3 perks since the rest just aren’t good.
Suffocating Grip is lvl2 and that’s good.
Why would they make this change it’s stupid
Where’s the livestream
Soon
It's not really a nerf ex alarms is still gonna be crazy like getting it off the rip wasn't crazy it's kinda do you want an gradual power up or a burst at lvl 3
i personally love this change. because EA definitely needed this type of nerf. but also wish instead of always focusing on nerfs they’d buff some stuff as well…there are so many perks that are just awful / no one uses that it’s a shock they haven’t gotten any type of buff yet.
Critical failure balance wise.
Just incentivises Rushing even more.
L update.
Good change exterior alarms and nobody escapes hell are crutches.
This is a great move. Now people will have to feed grandpa. I'm tired of those family members who only bring in one perk which is usually exterior alarms if they have it, and then not feeding him above level one. I'm tired of people not feeding him at all because all Grandpa perks are pointless. But then they suck on defense, and then they wonder why the survivors steamroll them.
This is lowkey a delusional take. The only reason no one feeds Gpa is because it takes time away from patrols and 99% of the time that means victims escape or they get a lot of progress just because a family member when to go feed Gpa. The reason they don’t go past lvl 1 either is because any time Gpa gets to at least lvl 3 but sometimes lvl 2 he almost instantly gets stabbed. So now Family has wasted however much time collecting the blood and then running over to feed Gpa and then in less than 5 seconds all that progress is gone. This is why no one feeds Gpa and now no one ever will unless they are already winning but that already happens now anyways.
I don't want to be mean but if you're losing a lot in your games I think you might be the reason. It is not common when facing the constant rushing victim teams to have time to grab blood to feed grandpa. Most of the time if you take your eyes off of an exit early on, victims are already pressuring/pushing through an exterior area. Your best bet after the first 30 seconds of the game for blood is hitting victims or getting kills.
You then talk about being tired of teammates not feeding grandpa but admit "all grandpa perks are pointless". If you're getting grandpa to level 5 you've basically won the game anyways as it's the only time you have to get that level of blood. The literal only 3 perks worth running right now are Suffocating Grip, Exterior Alarms, and/or Nobody Escapes Hell. Any other active perk is actively throwing as they don't come close in value.
Miria buff
Fresh is Best & Surgical will be the new meta bcuz its a blood build that doesn't require buckets, still can do damage & patrol while also feeding gramps fast. People just gotta switch up their play style, just bcuz u run a blood build doesn't mean u cant have high sav or can only focus on blood.
Was there an update for museum mode?
Not yet
looks like your squad isnt gonna run EA as your only grandpa perk anymore riley lol but i love this change... EA at lvl 1 was such a huge crutch for the family.
It comes with sacrificing two other Grandpa perks - with Nobody Escapes Hell and Suffocating Grip being so effective, that's a big risk. I would personally just nerf Exterior Alarms, so that it doesn't activate on basement doors.
This should be interesting
#gramping meta
Get internet and stream scrub been over a week. Finish your move I miss you.
I'm trying, Dad.
I think that this CAN be good because it wont allow the family to just blood rush grandpa without risk. Blood rushing rushing grandpa AND trapping him is damn near impossible. If you dont have agitator and bomb squad, you are pretty much kuch screwed. If your teammates are new, they are pretty much an instant blood vial delivery.
I think this is a step in the right direction. EA at the moment is way too easy to activate for how strong it is. Would be nice if they buffed the less useful grandpa perks and even added new ones though.
So nerfing family even more. Literally handing the victims the game on a silver platter.
How are you gonna say that when hands exists? And victim builds got NERFED
tell me ur a family main without saying it holy shit 💀💀
Wasn’t the whole like 1st 6 months constant victim nerfs besides Danny? (That did need to happen). Now you got Hands that makes some escapes almost impossible outside of the most coordinated teams, but you can’t handle one change that’s not in your favor?
@@RickyhoImesvictims dominate this game. Try playing a soloq family match and see how miserable it is.Make sure you have a sissy or Nancy on your team for synergy. 😂
Bro you’re delusional
😮
Family members are delusional
y tho
@@SlashNCast they’re kind of going a little overboard with the doomer stuff.
@@SlashNCast bc they complain that the game is survivor sided when it is clearly not. It’s more 60-40 in favor of killers I’d say. And listen I know the game won’t be perfect and that’s ok. But the family tries to run the game so it’s nice the devs did this. You shouldn’t be that op at the start of the game. And if people wine about this they’re delusional and I know you can’t make everyone happy but cmon ya know. I love y’all’s work and keep up the good work I truly wanna do UA-cam and y’all are inspiring 👍
So, because they made useless grandpa perks (90% of them are dogshit) and family would forgo taking 3 perks (sticking with just Ex Alarms) to avoid the randomness of getting EA put in the 3 spot. They just forced you to have it in the 3 spot. Instead of giving us perks that we’d want to use and forcing us to make a decision (eg. “is EA in 1st spot worth not taking 2 more perks, or do we roll the dice”). This is a lazy bandaid.
Second commenttttt