The 2022 Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP Sucks For $35,000
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I ride Panigale V4 SP (same engine) with dry clutch. So I perfectly understand your impressions. And I very much agree this is NOT coffee racer. You are disappointed because you have not ridden it as it is meant to be ridden and you have used it for 10 min ride between traffic lights. And again, I absolutely agree. This kind of ride is BIG PAIN with these bikes. The dry clutch pressing feels like workout, bike gets too hot and its maneuverability is very poor. You showed us what NOT TO DO with it. And maybe it is good thing for many people who think otherwise. And I suspect your bike was still in the engine break-in mode, because yellow and red rpm range began VERY EARLY on your video. During break-in period quick shifter SHOULD BE DISABLED according to the user guide. Foot pegs are adjustable on SP versions. So, if you had had more time, you would have been able to change the ergonomics.
I love sound of dry clutch every time I start the bike. My quick shifter works fine and semi active suspension with whole Ducati electronics package is a treat. Carbon wheels together with amazing look and feel appeal to me a lot.
And of course, this bike needs to ridden out of town at higher speeds to fully appreciate its potential.
And there is new SP2 version available already for 2023 to be compared with BMW 2023 model.
love the review, do ZH2 next 😃
I could have bought 7 of my 180 mph street bike for 35,000. An I be faster than shit knowing I had spares .
I think everyone is verbalising my thoughts. I have a V4S and love it (Im 64 years old and 6'3 tall). Most, if not all your dislikes are aimed at the bike's essential DNA. Of course you're going to be sat forward with high pegs, of course you're going to feel the wind and so on. I see you as a kind of guru, but on this review you miss the point completely. Also again, please incorporate some twisties - they are the most fun and tell you a lot about the bike.
Stop reviewing bikes if you don’t know what they’re meant for !
What next? You’re gonna take a panigale on the dirt !??
This thing is meant for track and full send it is loaded with electronics and you can’t even change the mode on it and you wonder why it feels the way it feels !
Try different modes try pushing it to the extreme on a track then come give us your opinion ! Not riding it in a parking lot
Let me get this straight. You're telling me this thing is expensive, gorgeous/menacing, sounds amazing, is a little bit high-strung, has a stiff clutch, and is uncomfortable? That's so weird. I've NEVER heard of a Ducati like that.
Me neither. 😂😂😂
Yep, but sounds broken
😂
But it’s actually quite confortable!
I was very disappointed with the scrambler... Couldn't feel a Ducati there at all.
Respectfully, Bro, this was a very poor review of the SP. “This bike is not meant to be ridden casually on the street...” and yet, that is exactly how you have reviewed it. You seemed to spend way too much time on the quick shifter (suggest you change the video title to “Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP Quick Shifter”) and then went on to comment how great the brakes were while evaluating them while riding.... in the city. And you didn’t even know what Riding Mode you were in or take the time to ask how to select the different modes? Lugging the engine and complaining about it pulsing? Spending time evaluating how it maneuvers in a parking lot while reminding us of how you can do it blindfolded? Seriously, this review appears to have been very hastily done and not up to what I thought were MJ standards.
To be fair, Lets be honest, 90% of buyers of this bike are buying it to flex and ride it to bike night. Hence casual riders. Most will not have the skills to use the bike to its full potential. No different than 95% of Ferrari buyers. Its all about showing off.
@@spartanx169x Strange argument “most people buy this to show off..”
People usually buy things which make them happy but also which they can afford… Ducati is a great bike brand as bmw and other brands are..it is a matter of preference - full stop:)
Forgot to mention - most of us can’t drive any of those powerful bikes to their full potential..cheers
Yea the review was very sub par for what his knowledge base is. I expected much more.
i dont like ducati.....but hes just a hater
@@spartanx169x Isn't that the case with most powerful (sport) bikes? I mean, unless you're going trackdays you're not getting the most out of it without breaking at least a few laws and driving dangerously. And even on trackdays most people would probably still not use all of it.
As soon as your bike has a top speed of about 200 km/h + there's a good chance you're not getting everything out of it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
As a current employee of Ducati, and owning superbikes from BMW (s1000r, R nine T), Ducati (v4, streetfighter v4, 1299), and Yamaha (r1), its a shame you thought this about the bike! But everyone can have their opinion! The benefit of the great USA. Being this is the first video I have watched from you, I don't know if it would be worth while watching anything else knowing you didn't even try switching modes, using the electronic suspension, looking at EBC adjustments (state of the art), using the bike past 10k rpm, enjoying the benefits of dry clutch (which is pretty hard to do unless you are on the track), testing wheelie control (state of the art electronic strategy there as well), opening it up out of 3rd gear (1-3rd is restricted due to unmanageable amounts of power at low gear ratios), throttle strategies, braking strategies (state of the art again, btw), anything in the new 6D-IMU or DTC, or reviewing the user interface. I don't want bias getting in the way when watching reviews, especially from someone who reviews! There is no "one perfect bike" but I get a feeling you would never know one if you rode a 35k supernaked with highest power to weight in its class with the best electronic package on the market like it was a f800gs.
Your spot on M J has a bitchy attitude, kinda hard to watch and couldn't even imagine taking a class with him
Hahah spot on!
As a rider of a Panigale 1299s, I usually really like your videos but you seem to miss the point of this bike completely. It’s a flat barred race bike for the road in no way comparable to a GS for example and you are a guy who rides sensible bikes which is great. The technology in this bike is incredible and yet you say ‘I don’t know what mode I’m in’ really quite dismissively but it matters what mode you’re in because it changes how the bike rides hugely. I wouldn’t believe for a second that you find this bike relevant for the road and this review confirms it. Again, I normally like your videos but not this one. Keep ‘em coming.
Most younger riders don't get what a Ducati is made for. Seems like they ride it for an hour then just look at the price tag and complain how their left hand, and lower back hurts. I have a 998, and a 4Vs Speciale and am very familiar with the 1098 and a few other Ducati models. Ducati's are definitely not the most comfortable to ride. You get used to the heavy clutch after riding one for a while... All Ducati's are a chore in town because they are much happier past 4K RPM and always kept moving. After 4K, they just sing, but are very loud with a full race exhaust. Ducati's look and sound good at any speed. Riding modes definitley change the feel of the bike. I also ride an R1 and KTM 1290 Super Duke R. If I want a more comfortable bike, I'll take the KTM. If I want a scalpel and not a butter knife, I'll take a Ducati. R1 is used primarily for the track if I want to push past my comfort zone and don't want to wreck a Ducati, but a Ducati is preferred. Ducati's have a purpose and is far from a multi-tool pocket knife... it's definitely not for everyone.
Hahah spot on . I have a V4s streetfighter and I track it on full power but with smooth delivery .. thought to myself it's awesome but not scary .. then switched full power and aggressive delivery and f me hahahahah
@@guygoodwin I don't ride on the track sadly and only ride on the street in Road mode but have the power setting on full which is a nice compromise as you get the full performance but with strong electronic override when it's needed :). Loving the look of the V4SP SF!
It's a Ducati and an SP to boot. It's track biased so take it on the track where it belongs and then try and comment. The dry clutch clatter is part of a Ducati's character and as for trying to tide the bike on idle, who does that? The quickshifter is one of if not the best on the market so claiming its clunky under power and hitting false neutrals , nah mate it ain't the bike. It's a naked bike so guess what, yep, wind.
@@johnbarber4032 I owned a SF V4 myself and had a few superbikes from other brands before. I really enjoyed the V4 but my experience with the quickshifter wasn‘t good either. It didnt seem to work well all the time, was shifting ruff and had miss shifts… he is right about it. I know how quickshifters work, tried lots of things on the DUC but it just never worked how it should in a reliable manner…
I HATE when someone is going to do a review on an ultra specific, super expensive motorcycle and does ZERO research before hand and simply starts commenting negatively about their experience. 1. The SP is specifically designed for the RACE TRACK...so yeah, it should feel like a sportbike.?? What would you expect it to feel like??? 2. You say the rearsets are super high...its pre-owned bike and the rearsets on an SP are completely adjustable, so you need to check where they are at....you can adjust them to pretty much anywhere you want. (and verify if the previous owner didnt have them set at highest spot) 3. It kicks when you are letting out the clutch and not giving it throttle LITERALLY because its a dry clutch, they are more snappy than a wet clutch because there is ZERO lubrication in the clutch pack...as you can obviously hear....its made for the track so that should be expected (you probably should know that before you complain about it so many times). 4. To complain about throttle response and all the rest, then compare it to another bike that you straight up say "has electronics setup to act a certain way" and in that same sentence say how you have ignored ALL the electronic settings available to you to alleviate EXACTLY what you are complaining about and say you have zero clue as to what mode the bike you are on is even in????? like WTF over???? If you are going to do a 20-30 minute review for your 350 THOUSAND subscribers, MAYBE do a little due diligence beforehand to give an actual educated review??? Know a tiny bit about what you SHOULD EXPECT of the bike before complaining about it being EXACTLY what its designed to be??? I mean watching and listening to you, I was waiting for you to say that the bike doesnt have enough storage either....
At 4:50, you say that taking off is not smooth. The problem is you. You are just not used to this bike. A few more hours or days and you would know how to smoothly take off.
The quickshifter issue you had around 12:45 is probably your fault as well. It happened once on mine and it was my fault, I was accelerating and at the exact moment I upshifted I slightly released the throttle and the electronic locked the up shifting.
Whenever I take the highway I accelerate hard and never had any issues.
At 15:15 you say it’s fast but you are not afraid. 2 things in which mode were you? 2nd, at no time during this video you were aggressive with this bike. You always slowly reved it.
Regarding choosing the BMW vs the Ducati: ask Scott Redding… He was pretty disappointed when he first test rode the BWM coming from the Panigale V4.
Last note: the dry clutch for an expensive bike: it’s a piece of Ducati history! You don’t like it, then buy the V4 or the V4S that do not come with it, which is a big disappointment for afficionados of the Ducati V2 Desmo
100%. I absolutely loved my 2008 Hypermotard 1100s, that dry clutch sound was so bad a$$, think some people fail to understand this is an SP model, not an R or S, SP is really special, as a Ducatisti I'd love to get my hands on one of these and take it on some
twisties, these bikes love to be thrashed around, rougher the better, QS on my Diavel 1260s and Hypermotard 950SP all the same, plenty of false neutrals but once you learn it it's a beautiful thing
@@sethruter I have the SFV4, and I can assure you that this bike is a monster. And if you are used to this bike, you just have to listen to the noise the engine of this SP was doing during this video, that at no point it was reved hard. He slowly reved it up and was (mega) short shifting most of the time. I felt sorry for this poor V4 engine. It hurts!
It was maybe set in Street mode which is a castrated mode in every aspect.
@@kenturvey3083 😂
@@SFV4 yup, exactly, urban mode sucks, I started learning mine on Touring then Sport and holy crap it's a whole nother animal! No Ducati I've owned likes to go slow and do streets, exception of my Multistrada V4S, well tamed but deceptively fast, SFV4 is so sexy in every way, enjoy it brother
@@sethruter I checked on a bigger screen. Around 2:10, it’s possible to see that the bike is in sport mode.
So, he has no excuses…
Your complaint about the first gear 7mph disappointment Isn’t the bike doing what any vehicle would do when you’re lugging it?
Yup
Exactly so I don’t quite understand ? Ducati hate? Hahaha just kiddin
probably has a lean fuel mixture
@@jayc342009 yes, euro 5 emissions, lean mix at low revs, Fatduc O2 manipilator installed between the O2 sensor and ecu works wonders, much smoother afterwards, well worth it.
@@marksmallman4572 because of emissions bikes run so lean out of the factory
These types of reviews based on one short ride aren't very useful and riding a bike like this casually around town doesn't seem like it reveals the character of the bike.
And yet we buy bikes based on 1 hour test drives.
@@expatbiker6598 Yeah, it's unfortunate. I've bought several bikes that I thought I would like but ended up selling because I found things I didn't like after riding them for awhile. This is why there are a lot of newer used bikes for sale. But I don't think it's fair or accurate to review a bike after one short ride.
This guy is a flop, wouldn’t take what he says as gospel bud.
Seems like yammie noob just did a video with this same model bike a few days ago. Think it was titled pure sound. I thought the video he did made the bike look bad ass and I wanted one after watching that video. This guy definitely didn't do Ducati any favors with this video 🤦
Yammie rode it supposed to be ridden, not like a beta boy🤷
@@rowdybroomstick6394 did yammie crash it into a porsche again?
This bike is made for going fast.
And it is made to do it very well.
If you use it as a scooter, of course is disappointing.
You didn't even lean.
You didn't go over 8000 rpm.
But you cry because of a cruise control missing or because you discover that a dry clutch is heavier than a regular one.. honestly the disappointing one here, is YOU.
Not really, he just doesn’t like the bike so what … if you like it then go buy one , you have your own mind !
I’m a big fan of your channel and reviews but I think on this one you dropped the ball. Not even knowing which riding mode you’re or testing them each was lazy. You don’t have to read the manual and I find it hard to believe that with your experience and ability, you wouldn’t already know how to toggle through some modes to compare them.
That was the review we really needed, not to mention hitting some twisties. You putted the beast around the city FFS, not at all what the bike is intended for or good at.
It seemed like you had already decided you don’t like it before you rode it. Maybe because it’s expensive, but honestly I’d have preferred you left that out of the equation unless the topic was to compare cost and value of specific models.
Motojujitsu is just not Ducati material...
Exactly....it's like "hey, let me review this exotic and complain about how it doesn't have any room for groceries" sort of review. Well, if you don't even know what you are reviewing or why it is the way it is...then....why are you reviewing it??
This bike isn't close enough to suzuki hayabusa gen 3 and it's comes in the price tag of 18 grand
price is a factor when buying a bike, it should be in the equation. Value for money is important
Such a disappointing 'review' from someone I used to look up to. I wouldn't have had any problem with your 'disappointing bike' conclusion if you actually would have took the bike for a proper spin in the twisties and tried out all the riding modes, but instead you took it around a parking lot and rode it like a scooter.
I own a streetfighter v4s with Akra full line and custom rearsets. I do not agree with you, the bike is a bit sporty but really comfortable. The qs is not that bad. For me, it is one amazing bike but I would choose the v4s over the sp. I agree that the s1000r is a great bike and the m1000r is probably even better. But I like better the personality of the v4s. But, I do agree that the clutch is crazy heavy and the brakes are amazing. I have a lot of respect for you and your videos, but you did not test this bike properly. It needs to be riden hard. You drove it slow, I understand you don’t want to be seen riding like an asshole, but by driving this bike like it, you could not see his real nature. It is just not the right bike for you. When you say it looks a bit slow for 200hp, you are right, the mapping is done this way in gear 1 to 3 to make the bike less jerky and more manageable. It can be fixed by a remap. By the way, I did not see your riding mode but I saw it was not race. In case it was street, the power is dramatically reduced. I can not believe you criticized the power delivery and did not even check in which mode you were
someones feelings got hurt 🙃😅
@@oscr_zen did you even try this bike ? :-)
@@laurentpochon9599 You have to explain why people should pay 35000 dollars for a bike that is a bit more sporty than the 22000 dollars Tuono V4 or as sporty and way less daily traffic comfortable than the 26000 dollars M1000R.
And for the track the new Panigale V4S or the new S1000RR would be better choices than the Streetfighter SP. I guess it is all about bragging rights (naked top power, price, "exclusive color scheme" of the SFV4SP, yet the M1000R has more hp.
@@THEREALZENFORCE please read my comment and you will see I recommend the v4s that is way cheaper than 35k. But to be honest, the mt10 is an amazing value for the money and the s1000r as well. So, if you are short in cash, going to the mt10 or s1000r is a great deal. I feel like you get more with the v4s, but yes, it is expensive. I was just saying the v4s is a really good bike, nothing more
@@THEREALZENFORCE i have an zh2se and i'm the happiest man on the earth! 17.000 euro used bike with 6000km on 😃 most important has the fuel level indicator 🤣
Quick shifter behaves differently in different modes, if you select sport or track quick shifter will be good on full throttle but clunky on regular speeds. Sad you haven’t tried all the modes, as they make bike very different in each
I can confirm as a streetfighter rider and current employee of Ducati, the quick shift strategy is not changed via riding modes. But, I can say I have missed gears with the bike on the track, throttle all the way out and in the city. Ducati does, however, change the QS strategy with the racing/racing Evo map that is included with the Akro exhaust (Half or full system).
He did miss a ton of the bike with not going through the modes and configs. That is like the most fun thing to do on a high-end bike!
That clutch sounds stupid
Thats a track bike posing as an everyday local commuter
Not a fair review and title, IMO. You should have played with the riding modes. Each riding mode (street, sport and race) has different throttle mapping, suspension behaviour and quickshifter strategy. Even more, those modes are fully customizable by themselves, and who knows what settings the previous owner had them set to. Seems you kept the bike in street mode, which limits the power to 150 hp-ish and d umbed everything down, that's why you felt disappointed with the bike when you went a bit harder.
I think you did both you and the bike a disservice by not playing with the riding modes to see how powerful they are, and how perfect you can tailor the bike to your riding style.
I was really expecting you to play a bit with stuff like the "brake support" settings on the electronic suspension and see what a difference it makes and how cool it is.
Agreed. Riding modes make a huge difference.
Totally agree 👍
You should blame the Del Amo Motorsport salesman who offered the bike to him to review without telling him about how to change the ride modes. They are supposed to give youtubers a rough breakdown of how to use the different modes before they hand them the keys. But that doesn't seem like it happened here.
@@ropeysubstance1719 it is up to the person doing the review to do their research on the bike because sales people have actual customers to deal with. I say they as a person that does reviews.
Agree, you cannot get on a used bike with zero knowledge of the previous owner's setup and do any sort of a comparison. Especially on a bike specifically designed for the track and not even taken to the twisties. Come on Greg. You know better than that.
😂I guess one day you’ll test a Porsche and say it has only two seats and Dodge Caravan gives more value for money with 7 😂😂😂
With all due respect you should stick with trail braking videos .This bike has settings for throttle response and engine brake.
These V4 engines are just amazing and one thing I’ll agree with you that V4SP might be an overkill .Don’t compare the seating position with your ADV bike …most naked bikes have similar seating and it can always be adjusted with some rearsets and handlebar adjustment.
Even the SFV4S is more money than M1000R….no comparison there ..
Ducati charges more for v4 ..period …and it’s just awesome 😊
U think the sfv4sp2 were meant for track. If u want to ride on the streets abd have fun hooligan bike the mt10 is wayy superior.
Yeah, it's a track machine. With the signature clutch rattle. Not made for low speed work or holding your clutch in at a traffic light.
Just incredible performance.
After looking at those numbers in the burnout frame ...
Incredible it is !
Wish you could have got into the twisties with it. That would have been another revelation.
Thank you for the video.
While it is the sharpest bike you can buy, it is also one of the most comfortable and easy to use.
I own a Tuono 1100 factory and my friend owns a Streetfighter v4, and we swapped bikes for a few days. I fell in love. It's literally the best I've ever ridden. It's actually very nice to ride slowly around town, and you can commute on it without compromising on comfort. But on twistys and the track, it's an animal.
Hey Shovelhead.. You're very fortunate not only to have the bike you have, but to be able to swap bikes with a friend.
IMHO.. You guys have some Primo Machinery. Wishing you both many happy miles. Enjoy.
He literally says that at the end.
why I feel like there is a lot of "I did this, I did that, I am better than you" stuff.
plus the test is definitely not professional as you didn't even try to push it as it must be pushed. Kinda eh video tbh...
Why would you ever hold a clutch at a stoplight? It's not at all comfortable and also you're adding extra wear to the parts.
I get that you hold that maybe untill the first cars are stopping behind you so you make sure that you're protected form behind but why more? Hands on the lever left leg on the shifter, be ready to leave if you have to check the mirrors with the periferial sight (or how would you name that ) if you want to play it mega safe. But there is no reason to keep the clutch squeezed at the lights.
I own 15 Ducatis and the SP is my favorite of them all right now. No she doesn’t have cruise control, or heated grips oem, maybe learn about what your riding? If you flexed her sufficiently you might have learned the importance of all those riding modes and settings; when she did a backflip for you. My dedicated track bike has six figures in her, the forks alone run 15k and the brakes over 10k. All that, and on the track the SP still impressed me so much I put 1000 track miles or so on her this year. This review is unimpressive 👎🏻
Welp I own an SP, full exhaust and tuned and the bike is incredible. I don’t think you fully understand Ducati and a V4…it’s not an in-line 4 with the linear torque band, it punches you in the mouth…especially after a tune and exhaust. To compare this to a BMW rr is not apples to apples. I chose the Ducati for that exhaust note and evil looks, I just don’t use all 200+ hp …most people don’t.. but I have it. My only issue is the crazy expensive “parts” options and insanely expensive service, I do all the work myself after break in (s). If you don’t love the noise I’d recommend someone purchasing a Japanese bike…not a Euro. Face it they just do it better and cheaper
Comparing a naked Panigale vs a BMW is a bit weird. Ducati comes from racing. BMW comes from touring. Different backgrounds. Different results. If you like easy and comfort, take a BMW. If you want to ride a bike which feels “alive”, take the Streetfighter. After many years being a BMW rider, a couple of years ago I switched to Ducati. Two different worlds. Not one better than the other. Simply different.
I don’t think it’s as weird of a comparison because the BMW he referenced is the s1000r. Both the v4 and s1kr are naked bikes which were derived from sport bike counterparts. In their base trims, they compete directly with each other. One thing that is skewed is the trim level of this Ducati is the highest you can buy while the comparable BMW M1000R was just announced. I’d love to see those two go head to head in the future.
@@BeginnerMoto You absolutely cannot compare the S1000R to the SFV4 even in the base trim, they're worlds apart. The M1000R comparison is (will be) a different thing.
@@toshy Well I haven’t rode either so my opinion doesn’t mean much but dozens of reviewers including MotoJitsu compare them all the time. Those bikes along with the Tuono V4, super duke, zh2, etc. are compared because they’re all in the hyper naked category and buyers shop by comparison. They each have they’re pros and cons from what I’ve read and seen. I was a potential buyer for a streetfighter but after I compared it to the other bikes I listed earlier it didn’t make sense for me.
100% agreed.
Ducati's are like Marmite, you either love them or hate them, I am on my third....
I believe this is your first time on a Ducati?? If you know them all well you should know that you have to keep the on the throttle tied to release the clutch and give it gas asap, BTW you are talking about massive V4 power, I suggest you keep it and ride for a couple days and then come and do another review 👍👍
Bingo!
When shifting up or down you should hold the gear selector until the bike is firmly in that gear. With a clutch you would hold the gear selector up or down with constant pressure until the clutch had been fully released and that will make sure you never find neutral when you don't want it or false neutral higher in the gearbox which will damage the transmission. With a quick shifter the technology actually prefers you to hold the gear selector until the bike is for sure in that gear. My 2018 Aprilia Tuono really prefers a hold compared to a flick, especially on the up it will make a smoother shift every time. Quick shifters can shift you into neutral or do what you experienced where it will cut the ignition not change the gear and nearly wheelie the bike, it totally can if you have the throttle open enough! Don't jerk your foot, don't flick it don't feel for a click, hold up or down and have a better shift every time!
Great info! I’ve never read this before. The quick shifter on my ‘22 SDR Evo is amazing no matter what I do, but my BMW r1250rt is a bit rough. I know some of that could be due to the characteristics of the boxer twin. But, I will apply your advice the next time I ride it. Thank you
If I was in the market for this bike, or one like it(track focused hyper-naked), this "review" would be 100% un-helpful. Call it a "first impression" maybe, but a quick spin around the block does not give the bike a chance to shine in it's intended element. Swing and a miss on this one.
Your second-to-third attempted shift didn’t complete because you were not on the throttle enough. You can still upshift (for example when slowing from a high speed run) using the clutch. The dry clutch has improved slipper clutch behavior over that of a standard clutch. I love the sound (you can hear it on right turns on track), but the bike ships with both clutch covers so you can choose. Regarding the throttle response and low-speed operation, the bike is highly customizable, and the factory throttle mapping is specific to each gear. The SP is aimed at people who want to use it on track and everything about it-rearset height, forward pitch, clutch feel and behavior, suspension internals, and suspension programming-are biased toward track use. If you rode that bike back to back with the Streetfighter 4S, you would feel the difference. People interested in the bike should watch the recent SP2 launch video and read the Ducati online information about the design philosophy and specifics.
Almost every comment, apart from the weight of the clutch and breaks are incorrect due to user error, misuse and inadequate setup. Your riding mode/ modes were set up all wrong and SP is set up for a completely different style of riding than was demonstrated here. If you were in street mode, at reduced power, with middle slide control and minimum anti wheelie, you would see your old BMW reincarnated but with a much better weight distribution. Also the bike is too slim for you- you would be miles better on a Multistrada Pikes Peak
My v4s does false neutrals once in a while. It all depends what riding mode your in as well, I gotta say full blown race mode it'll scare you, at 170 it's hard to hold onto. Should looked into the riding modes, I feel thats very important to get a proper review.
Bro, you should wear gloves. Yes, I know, it is off topic :-)
@@laurentpochon9599 lol I have some nice astars, just hard to get myself to wear them.
The moral of this video is...if you are going to do a review of something you know nothing about, learn a bit about it before doing the review.
Probably the most comfortable super naked bike I’ve ridden. I did 640 miles on mine in 2 days from Norfolk to Aberystwyth in Wales UK. Awesome around the Welsh mountain roads using sport mode (dynamic suspension) and full power dynamic throttle. It’s a race bike with flat bars. Had a Panigale before this Streetfighter which I loved but this so good for the roads.
I think he complain about the rearsets. I assume you have the oem one which are a lot more comfortable for the road
There’s a video on Luca Salvadori’s channel where he enters a Superbike race with this bike and mops the floor with everyone.
"It doesn't scare me"..... what's scary is the fact you could possibly breed 😂😂😂😂
I'm a Ducati guy but personally wouldn't opt for a dry clutch - it gives up too much just to get the Ducati noise (at least for a street bike).
Throttle response is adjustable (just like most things on that bike) so it can be softened. Also the juttering taking off at idle is pretty normal for everything except an I4... so if you prefer super smooth you'll probably prefer the I4 bikes like the S1000RR (it's the one thing I didn't like about the RR... feels sort of dull until you get over 8k). I personally found the earlier BMW quickshifters to be poor under anything except high power... though the 2021 RR I rode at VIR had a perfect QS so I think it's been dialed in. I also think QS's can be adjusted (though probably by the shop).
I'll be shopping for a hypernaked in the spring... was just planning to jump into the SFv4s but the M1000R may have enough of a features (cruise, heated grips, more comfortable) advantage over the Duc that it will probably be a very hard choice.
These bikes are amazing but with a naked bike, I agree with you - heated grips and cruise control are major considerations. This thing and the new M1000R look incredible. Great options.
Change the modes and THEN give the quick shifter a go. Others that have ridden it says it feels totally different once you change modes.
Slowly riding a Ducati in sport mode is an invitation to discontent; I checked and enlarged the computer screen - you were in sport mode. The clutch lever is going to be slightly more taut with a dry clutch.
Quick shifter is not automatic transmission... The quick shifter is able to unload the transmission by manipulating the ignition spark. When you lift up the lever to go up a gear, the quick shifter reduces the load on the drive train by temporarily stopping the ignition or cutting the fuel in the engine just enough for the new gear to slip into place.
Quick question: were you paid by BMW to make this video? Come on man, it’s all wrong
Did you give it full beans at all?
You can't do a smooth take off with 2k RPMs. You need to rev it to at least 10K and letting the clutch out quicly for a that.
This review is coming from someone who stated that the BMW GS is the greatest bike ever made. The GS is a bike I would never ride or consider for my commute purposes. Review taken with a grain of salt.
For the Streetfighter folks, Cordona makes an incredible strain based direct swap shifter, and the Domino race RBW throttle is the definition of sensitive. I highly recommend both.
Forgetting about the bike's capabilities for a second, remember that a V4SP is also money in the bank. Any Ducati with its production number scribed on the yoke, or in this case its bars, is not going to lose much money.
Essentially you are saying, "This Ducati race bike doesn't put around a parking lot very well," to justify your bias toward BMW.
Take it to a track to unleash its full potential
Sounds like it acts like a wild mustang with only 3 months of training. In other words, a Ducati. Perfect.
jitsu needs to stay in his lane, BMW’s & parking lots 😂
ayeee that parking lot at 11 min is where I did my msf course!!! Its so funny to see you ride in all these places I ride too
only a complete madman uses "DISAPPOINTING" and "Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP" in the same scentence
Mine shuts off 2 cylinders when I'm riding around town slow, the brakes are excellent, the performance is race track like and I'm 5'8 with normal arms and sit upright comfortably. What a bike.
Dude knows a LOT bout riding, but not so much about bikes.
Jumpy clutch with no gas (dry clutch)?
Pirelli Corsica?
Come on 😅
What rpm does it redline at?
It's hard to feel scary if you don't go pass 10k rpm. That's like 140-160hp.
Hey, you said it’s not scary but what mode did you have it in? The modes restricted the Hp…
What a rediculous video of a guy who had really no idea on what he was sitting on 😂😂😂 After 2 hours of testriding it, I bought one. Its an icredible machine, but its a Ducati high performance sportsmachine and not a sofa with 2 wheels 🙈
I test rode a 2022 Ducati Street fighter V2 earlier this year.
On open roads making progress it was sublime....very precise bike with great turn in. Bike stable in corners at pace.
At end of road test I ended up riding on busy congested roads......Not a good bike for slow speed control....I had 2 choices of gear in town 1st & 1st. The bike bogged down & required lots of clutch feathering.
I got back on my Hornet 599 afterwards and was happier on that...Sure it is not as sharp in bends & down on power by comparison....BUT my old Honda the far better all round bike.
If I wanted a more sports focused bike for track & twistes I would look elsewhere..S1000R/RR...Fireblade etc. Basically something that can be ridden well at all speeds not just above 4k rpm.
As far as visual appeal goes....the Streetfighter looks great.
I have expensive shoes that look great but I can't walk far in them !
I am not anti Ducati btw 🙂
You think this bike is weird. You clearly haven’t ridden older Ducatis they have stiff clutches, also this bike is a dry clutch but handle well and brake beautifully. Also you put it in neutral at a light. Normally like your reviews but this one missed the mark. You need to spend more time with Ducatis they are great motorcycles.
No cruise control... it's a Ducati🤣 I would recommend trying the V4S Streetfighter to compare to the sp as this bike is the most "hardcore" version. So at the track is where this bike shines, minus those rearsets.
What if it was in the wrong riding mode, I know you said you didnt check which one it was in
I can't believe you didn't check the riding mode you were in! Very amateurish!
1st of all off the showroom floor they are so dogged out and so smogged up they just can't breathe like they were meant to. I have a 22 hyper and I have cured it of all these problems And it's totally awesome now.
I was looking at one of those this past weekend, curiosity more then interest, but I was just picking up some stuff for my XDiavel. If I was going to get a sportier bike, I like the styling of the Panigale over the Streetfighters.
good or bad reviews , I always love your videos. Thanks 🤩
My guy, have you never ridden a ducati before? Not sure you're familiar with what Ducati does lol. These bikes are Visceral... that's the entire point.
Struck me as a rather unprepared journalist/reviewer. Couldn’t do a bit of research beforehand? Didn’t know which ride mode you were in, and expected a better result? REALLY?
i love your work, but you missed the point of this bike. If you want a more streetable Ducati, then the Streetfighter V2 or the new Monster is a much better machine. Even the V2 though, like the V4 are trackbikes in wannabe street clothing.
Your chanel grew up by teaching us how to ride a motorcycle. Reviews on bikes , are not your forte. No offense! :)
So it's a poor parking lot bike. I figured so. More spread out ergos here than than any Tuono V4. Seems like a Superduke 1290 R is the one you want. Best ergos.
I have a 2023 V4 SP2, it is a very expensive bike but I absolutely love it. The clutch isn't that heavy even after hours of riding. Can you get more features for the money buing a M1000R, sure you can.
Hey motojitsu I’m a fan of your riding tips videos…massive respect. I’m not sure you testing the turning radius of this dry-clutched-carbon-track weapon in a parking lot makes any sense! Try the SF V4S for a better comparo against the S1000R ✌🏾
Did you ever do Honda CB 1000 R? Please, do. Great video
what about fuel consumption?
Don't be a WEF baby man, it's a man's bike and you have to provide the input to ride it. You are to used to bikes doing the riding for you...
The things you don't like are the things that make a ride or diving experience awesome... Personally I'd rather go through a corner at 10 mph feeling like I'm going 95 mph than going 120 mph when my real skill is 70-80 mph and having the ecu make up the difference...
This bike exudes personality. It’s A true beast just like a powerful wild animal. Besides being artwork as it’s looks reflect it seems to live up to the Ducati legend that they are like people with their quirks - they seem alive in that you don’t quite know what it may do when you request it to do things. They sort of keep all riders on their toes. They are for a certain type of expert I think.
Totally agree. He missed the whole point of a naked bike. "Feels like a fan in your face"- that is the point of a naked.
I think this is an awesome bike. BMW S1000s are good bikes, but with non to very little character, if going very fast is character. SF, Tuono and Duke R all have character.
If you want to review a bike, have the specs ready and know what the bike is designed for and how a manufacturer has designed the bike. This SF is totally Ducati through and through. This is a SP version on top of all of it. M1000R is a completely different bike in price and specs from a S1000R with an My package.
BMW GS is the most boring bike you can buy...worst comparison you can make. GS has a terrible quickshifter...not the same as on the S1000R/RR.
Quickshifter is all about revs and your intention to shift.
I'm happy Motojitsu has gotten into reviewing more of these bikes. But sorry, you failed us with this review. 😢
Yesterday I saw this bike next to a tuono 21, I didn’t ride it but quality, appearance and feelings only by sitting on it is on an other level. No other bike come close. And I’m sure the riding is amazing with its akrapovich system. Made tuono look like a cheap bike
stop say “like”
what do you think about the brakes and quick shifter ?
Have you tried a KTM 1290 Super Duke R? If not, you should give one a go. Gobs of torque throughout the rev range and a surprisingly comfortable riding position.
It's a completely different power plant to the BMW its not an in-line 4 ,so obviously will not be as smooth I've had loads of big twins and a v4s....there engine characteristics are completely different to in-line 4s ,,, as for the riding mode the bike was in makes a massive difference on the road opposed to track Ducati's like to be higher up in the rev range 👍👍
Stick to safety videos. Leave the motorcycle reviews to others
I've been on a SS900f for the past 20 years, and this bike is easy as sin to ride!
How exactly does a quick shifter work? Is it like auto transmission in a car?
Apart from initially going into 1st gear to pull off you don't need to use the clutch, you can also stay on the throttle. The shifter automatically kills the ignition (some cut the fuel instead) for a split second to allow the gear change, many also blip the engine on downshift. You can hear that happening in the video.
@@WestCoastVisitor 👍. Thks.
Worst review of the SF I've seen. It was actually comical.
Damn, all I felt was a negative vibe this entire video, not sure what it was.
Ride a Ducati on idle and complain? Really? Until now I really was a fan of your vids but with this one… take it to the track please 🙏🏻
Quick shifter is amazing , brakes are amazing and the kickstand is nice.
The rest of the bike is shit 😂 lol . Maybe I hate Ducati or maybe I don’t know 🤷♂️ what I’m talking about out.
Did I mention that the brakes are amazing lol ..
You would think a V4 would be so smoooooth
This review is rubbish. He clearly does not understand what he got himself into. Talking about heavy wind blowing into his knees at 50mph and the bike wanting to stall out on him while giving no gas after releasing the clutch. Sounds like this guy thought he was taking out a Vespa.
Thank you!
Great unbiased review of pros and cons about the street ability of the machine.
Eey great video. Tbh I like the ducati streetfighter v2 in storm green more.
"Bmw paid video"
As far as looks this is a 10/10 gorgeous rolling sculpture XD
Motor jitsu love this Ducati
street fighter v4 gorgeous
They're cool looking bikes but I'd never be able to sleep well knowing if there is a problem with the bike you'd never know because the clutch is so fkng loud.
“My heels feel like they’re in my butt” 💀
I love Ducati, but 35k is steep for this. Now the V4s on the other hand... oooh boy that bike is mint.
You must not understand the substantial additional value this has compared to the V4S. Just the rims alone are $10k.
@@allaboutmd Just because Ducati throws a massive amount of money at it, doesn't make it worth the purchase.
@@MikeB-ng3ol actually, it does make it worth it because if you wanted to add those parts to your V4S it would cost much more than just purchasing the SP. It really boils down to whether or not you want those upgrades or not. Personally, I’d love those carbon wheels.
@@allaboutmd Then you buy them. I don't agree that it's worth it. Place whatever arbitrary dollar amount you want.
@@MikeB-ng3ol Rather silly that you would think the V4S is worth it, but spending an extra $10k for nearly $15-$20k in upgrades isn’t worth it. It’s not an arbitrary value, it’s the cost Ducati charges for those parts.
S1000R isn’t even comparable. You didn’t know anything about the tab data or capabilities of electronics. You probably didn’t get it out of street mode which is why you didn’t get the wtf feeling from the power. It’s definitely not a daily bike compared to the s1000r but it is certainly a track weapon.
Sorry mate but "going hard" while changing gears doing it on 8k when this bike cuts on 13k - 14k? When is that "going hard" happened? Mate... That is a "race bike" on street costume... Not a gentle GS
Moto jitsu I have my triumph 1200 rs does not shift as good and they rave about it wow so smooth
What is the motivation for a dry clutch??
A dry clutch provides some advantages over a wet clutch when used for racing, and the Ducati SP (Sport Production) bikes are meant to be ridden on track or in a way where a dry clutch is preferred over a wet one. The SP bikes, Panigale and Streetfighter, come track focused bits like the dry clutch, carbon fiber wheels, and a race-prepped suspension over the regular V4 versions which are designed more for street riding.
Clean engine oil, less slip, better cooling, easy access for switch between race springs and street, easy access for service (for race track), and it's not unusual, all manual cars have dry clutch but it's a single plate so that's why it doesn't rattle.
Under 80 and under 5th gear, mine runs hot. Cruise up over 85 and start the review there.