Unlocking The Secrets Of Slow Speed Turns: What You're Missing
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No, you don't keep the bike upright and "just turn the bars" get moving with some speed and purpose and LEAN that bike over!!! No excuses, go practice MotoJitsu.com
Makes sense. Need enough speed to get gyro effect of wheels/tires, which is what stabilizes bikes and motorcycles.
Learn to counterbalance, you can do it ay any speed.
Wasn’t this video originally titled ‘Even Motorcops Get This Wrong’ ? … and it had a different cover picture ?
@@user-vu1lv8wh3k It has been pointed out and something needed to be done. This video has been featured in other channel which point out where he got this all wrong.
@@Coffeeteabike In the comments of that moto control video there's this muppet called petro head and he's bagging out motojitsu hard, saying how he knows him IRL and how he's super arrogant and just makes stuff up and doesn't actually know what he's talking about. I had a look and the same perto head guy has a youtube channel trying to copy motojitsu's, in his latest video he's telling everyone don't listen to what motojitsu teaches and goes on about how steering your bike is more about leaning your body than steering with your hands. Seems like the guy's on a war path to destroy motojitsu or something. Seems personal or maybe he's just a nut trying to discredit motojitsu to steal his audience, kind of wild.
That garage clip was the ultimate flex lol
Need good ventilation though!
Turning as you demonstrate is a very handy skill everyone should practice. Turning without a steep lean at even slower speed is a more advanced skill that you apparently need to practice until you don't wiggle your bars back and forth like a little kid's first day on a bicycle. Both skills are great additions to a skilled rider's repertoire.
New rider here, thanks for this info. This is probably the most important information i have learned today doing thight turns. I love moto gymkhana and i hope to improve my skills based on what you have said. Yesterday, i went 6-9 mph doing turns and i can feel the radius got smaller. Im trying really hard to get over my fear of falling when i lean. I think im making progress. This vid and info is golden. Thank you sir. You are a good teacher.
Just counterbalance, speed is irrelevant.
Imorove Slow speed turns by going faster ...🤦
Nobody goes slow because he wants to go slow but because there is a reason for it. And sometimes while going slow you have to make a turn...
Riding is more than practicing in a parking lot doing small radiuses. A good rider practises to ride his bike in every situation. Guess what, you can do even tighter turns with a little burnout. Valid riding technique on dirt. Doesn't make it the ultimate riding technique in a mixed traffic zone with pedestrians for low speed cornering, does it ?.tight turn and slow turn are not the same thing. There's a situation for both. And a rider should practice both
Amazing and correct! I've been practicing your invaluable teaching for the last 8 months since buying a small Zontes Tiger 125 bike here in Scotland! Every day I practice and it has been an inspiration. This lesson is especially useful. My bike riding confidence has greatly increased since I discovered MotoJitsu. One day when I get a full licence and a bigger bike I know everything you have taught me will save my life. Thanks again.
He made a similar impact 😌 great channel 👏
slow is smooth, smooth is fast !
Not gonna lie, I struggle with this. Go faster to make a slower speed turn feels really counterintuitive. I KNOW the bike is more stable at higher speeds, because physics, but at lower speeds, it really feels like the bike wants to fall over and my instinct is to counter it.
Try speed with not so tight turns when you lean. Build confidence and then make it tighter. Make sure you don't pull your clutch when you are unsure, then you cut the power and loose speed and the bike will have a harder time to stand up
There's also other tricks like riding the clutch and the rear brake that can help at slower speeds, mostly just to modulate the throttle and make micro adjustments. If you can find a big empty parking lot you won't get in trouble for using I'd suggest practicing in it. Try to see how many parking spaces it takes to do a u turn and try to shrink that to less than 2 spaces.
It’s not a "slower speed turn", it’s a "tighter turn". You can’t go super slow and super tight.
@@Rependand maybe even go so far as to lose enough power through the turn that it falls over as well
@@RependYoo man you opened my eyes I didn't know why I didn't think this sooner😅 you are right I liked your suggestion I screenshot it really helpful
Myself included 🤪
When we video ourselves, we then realise we're not counterbalancing enough!
:) more practice!
In Sweden we have ride really slow in the certification (below 4 km/h) just to show you can balance and control the bike. Your'e failed if you ride too fast.
I've got my motorbike licence in the UK and this is exactly the way my instructor taught us. He also taught us how to use the rear brake in slow rides and it definitely made me more confident because the bike felt so much more stable. Thanks to these videos, I found so many other things to learn and to practice from you!
I sold my motorcycle about 11 years ago when I had kids, and haven't been on a motorcycle since then. This is great info, and gives me confidence for the day i'm able to get another bike :)
Glad it was helpful!
Can I ask what your reasoning was to stop riding, I mean why did having kids change it for you
Incase you don't get a reply I'll add my two cents as perspective. We all know that riding comes with a heavy risk of serious injury and death but we accept them because at the end of the day it's just you and the bike on the line. When you have kids that's not the case anymore. Your injury could have a severe impact on their development so at a certain point you may decide that raising those kids to the best of your ability is more important than your hobby. That and the fact that kids are so damn expensive. Most people have bikes as their secondary vehicle so it's an easy sell to soften the blow from the extremely heavy initial costs of child birth. At least in America. As a disclaimer, I don't have any kids but I am at that stage in life where financial planning for children is my reality so I've given this a lot of thought. I hope that can give you some insight while we both wait for a response from @SummerAdventures
What Moto-Jistu misses is that these Motorcycle Cops teach this "vertical turning" technique specifically for use on slippery surfaces like gravel.
He criticizes a technique without bothering to understand its purpose.
These same Motorcycle Cops teach the leaning techniques all day every day for regular conditions.
Yes. There obviously are situations where you need to be slow. (Can’t whoosh around a tight space with traffic at more than 8MPH sometimes.)
I guess he needs to watch Moto Control channel to learn how to do it in his video as a reply to this one.
@@Muzikji he already did and deleted his comment on that channel.
@@RahulSharma-nv2fqwhat did he originally comment
@@rahulk2633 I don’t know bro, I got to know that too late as well.
The moto cops that do the competition skills are fun to watch and those guys don’t just use handlebars with no lean. They fly as fast as they can and constantly lean and scrape the floor boards. I can’t believe people actually teach that. I’m glad you’re spreading good knowledge to riders. It’s scary surprising how many people on bikes really don’t know how to ride. They can go down the road and that’s it. I will never forget my fist riding test a long time ago to get my endorsement and there was only a few of us out of 17 that passed. A lady on a trike failed right away because she had zero clutch and throttle control but the two oldest people there on big full dresser bikes that said they have been riding for 30+ years and finally decided to get their endorsement and they both failed right away as well.
Thank You MJ. I needed this. Love it
I'm so grateful for your channel, I practice low speed turning on almost every ride(whenever I can find an empty parking lot). It's crazy how confident and comfortable I feel riding because of all the practice... and I've only been riding for about a month and a half!
I'm also very grateful for my instructors at my Basic Rider Course who also taught how to use lean for low-speed maneuvers.
8th month of riding and can comfortable make U-turns and 360s at slow speeds. I'm still not 100% comfortable at full bar lock but each day I move a little closer to that goal.
your videos/advice help tremendously.
Thanks again!!!
keep at it!
In my EU country low speed maneuvers are required to be done at 4 km/h = 2,5 MPH in order to pass for the test for driving license. I am not joking.
Who cares? Do what you have to for the course but afterwards on your own bike, go faster, lean more.
Yeah but in the EU we also teach counter-leaning, which lets you lean the bike way more. Not sure why MJ doesn't mention it, it seems like a huge missed opportunity. Seems the MJ way to practice low speed skills is to avoid low speeds.
"In my EU country"? Have some pride in your nation man! You're a country before a political organisation.
Same in the UK. Got to be slow speed on the test. Like MJ said elsewhere, do the test how they want you to do it, then after you've passed, re-educate yourself 😂
Actually when I did my exam our instructor mentioned that we have to forget everything that we have learned on the course to pass and as a direct continuation offered a slow turn course after the successful exam, end this is precisely what we learned as a new riders. It turned to be invaluable and also what a sales pitch for course continuation 👍
Practicing friction zone control, slow u-turns and waves in the parking lot is key to improving as a rider. Appreciate all the videos.
Just picked up my first 1250gs and mennn I love this bike. Coming from a sport bike background, feels like I have a lot to learn. Love your channel man. Very helpful and informative!!!
thanks!
@motojitsu
I'm practicing my low speed turns daily and getting better, but it's still pretty challenging for the beginner. I noticed that I keep fighting myself - I try sending the signals to tell my body to lean the bike, but something in my brain is fighting back. One thing I noticed that makes a big difference is to look where I want to go (that's what everyone says). When I look, my brain fights back less and the bike seems to go where I need it to go. It gets better each day and your videos are super helpful to keep making progress. Thank you for your videos.
I feel like it helps even more to look where you want to go (but not too far) and actively/conscientiously trying to steer the bike that way, not only relying on instinctive steering.
biggest thing for me overcoming this as a fellow new rider - relax your body. Fully relax your arms and body (while still holding proper body position) and release the stress in your arms...then let the bike fall into the turn. When I started to fully relax my arms I almost immediately started doing better and could get tighter turns. Good luck!!!
@@cloud9847 Thanks for this advice and I noticed a big difference today when I was riding. My body was really stiff and I was not relaxing anything. When I loosened up, everything was better. I also noticed the same with my lower back and right leg. It is weird because I did not realize I was so tense.
@@turbotoblast4 Yeah and the difference between direct vs peripheral vision. For example if practicing cone weaving, we might look to the end of the cones (or past) and not directly at the cone we are weaving around, but still using peripheral vision to supplement.
that's awesome bud!
That is really great advice and something you eventually figure out for yourself, but having a head start is very helpful. Last year I returned to motorcycling after a 38 year break (yeah I know), and confidence with low speed corners is taking the longest to recover. This vid will really help…. Practice, practice, practice!
This is just the ultimate tip. Transformed my low speed. That and "be assertive". Went out and tried it this evening - feel like i went up a belt. Great tips. Thanks man!
Dear Greg, my instructor was an ex-cop and during the slow driving lessons at the range he taught me the opposite of what you are saying in this video. I think he was right.
wrong - whoever rides trial knows that you don't need speed or lean at all to turn slow
Thanks for all the help man. Pulled off my 1st full lock circle today on my 125cc duke. Been practicing every day for the last 2 weeks and trying to complete my brown belt! Also have full gear now that makes me feel far more confident.
Nice work!
Great video. I feel like I always knew this in the back of my head, but I never realized its all about speed and lean angle
one in the same...more speed = more lean angle = more lean angle is what's needed!!
Yes !!!!!! you are absolutely correct, it's all in feeling the ride, I always believed this all my life, I been riding over 50 years, great job on explaining this 👍
thanks...more speed = more lean = tighter turns!
Been watching you for a while now. I ride an Indian Chieftain and I am trying to balance "scraping" my boards versus laying my bike down. I don't have 25k to pay my bike off if I damage it so it holds me back.
However, i have learned a lot watching your videos. And as a Newer rider, I appreciate your knowledge and the clarity of your explanations.
Have to admit I really love these videos you put out. You've given me a lot of information about how much I don't understand. For about a year I've had a KLR 650 that people either love or hate. But I smile like a little kid when I ride it. Though when it comes to low speed turns I really had to get over some mental intimidation due to the height of it.
thanks
You are 100% / the more you learn the more you know you need to learn. Henn eyes is definitely fantastic advice and it’s more than just beginner level. The things you’re explaining are more intermediate in advanced. But again, I agree, 100% with everything you’re saying.
Don't know why I was so excited to hear you say if you aren't scrapping your floor boards on a cruiser you aren't leaning enough. I am a re-entry rider after about 15 years off, so getting into practicing slow speed/u-turns, nothing like my old ZX6R and I am always scraping so I thought I was getting too low and treating it more like my old bike. Love the content thanks for all you do for the community.
Good points about leaning being an advantage to tighter turning with some increase in speed! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
My coach, my guide, my trainer, Thanks
I completed a course taught by the Chandler (AZ) PD Motor Unit about 8 weeks ago on my '19 DCT Goldwing. The lean and higher speed and looking to where you want to go was key to tight turns, tight U-turns. We used the same course the Moto Unit uses for training. No clutch so a lot of rear brake use to control the speed as the DCT is real responsive to throttle. Was a free course that they conduct quarterly.
Maybe part of the issue with people going too slow comes from calling it a low speed turn. We could just call it a tight turn. Or a lower speed tight turn, vs higher speed tight turn. Regardless of speed, the bike has to lean enough for the steering geometry to create that “cone” that corresponds to the angle of the turn. And for a super tight angle, because tires can only handle so much lateral load, you are limited in how fast you can go. So that lower speed limits the forces that can hold the bike up at that given angle, and so you may need to counter weight your bike with your body. But at higher speeds you can do the opposite and lean into the turn - to keep the required bike lean angle within limits, and that lets you maintain more speed to make that turn. So low speed tight turns you lean the bike but your body can stay upright to counter weight, and high speed tight turns you do the opposite and lean your body in to the turn so you can carry even more speed at that given angle.
go faster, lean more, tighter turns
Good advice!
Yep, started like that.. but once I got comfotable with my bike started leaning more and everything got easier. Great video as always!
thanks
An inexperienced Rider cannot do a turn because they're afraid they're going to fall over
The "advanced" test to get your full license here in South Australia requires you to do a U turn, full lock, without leaning. I grew up on motorcross bikes, it's near impossible for me to lock the bars without leaning in.
Excellent! Thats perfectly logical. Let’s practice uturn this way! Thanks a lot.
In Finland you can't go over 5kph in the slow manouvering test it's hard. You can Google traficom motorcycle test manual explains the course and speed. 15 to 20mph isn't a slow turn that would be 24kph to 34kph and a complete fail.
I really like this format with voiceover over demonstration video! Keep them coming!
thanks
I ride R1250RT and handle it very confidently through twisties but I was walking the bike initially at slow turns. Now I practice slow turns after every ride for 10-15 mins like @motojitsu suggested doing in his videos. It has been very helpful and I have been steadily improving. 👍 you are a good instructor.
Thanks for this, needen this to master my brown/black belt drills ;)
more practice!
duly noted. thanks
MotoJitsu : Do circles in your garage! You have a problem with that?!
Me : No sensei....
MotoJitsu : No mercy -_-
hahahahha
Thanks for helping us break out of the B.S. zone and into reality. Everyone who wants to ride and improve should be watching your videos. I have sent people your links to watch your channel several times now just to help because no one gives such down-to-earth and detailed explanations as you.
Thanks!
Great video. That has been something I've learned riding. I practice regularly and feel the bike and listen to the sound of the motor as I'm doing U-turns when I ride my FZ1 and R1 and have to be going 8-11 mph doing slow speed maneuvers. On the R1 I have to lean it because the handle bars lock quickly, so the bike must lean. 😊 Practice 15 minutes every ride. 👍
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Good info...clutch/throttle and rear brakes. with a torquey bike, i.e. MT09, CB650 etc, what gear for such slow turn, 1st gear for these bikes, i find my hands grip so hard on the throttle, a quick sneeze or a fart, one will open the throttle in no time. and since one is making turning our hands need to be flexible, unlike straight road...
Excellent video mate, I'm there taking it all in learning and learning. Its really useful what your teaching us. Yes a car park is the best place to practice.
thanks
I wish I could train with you in person! I love your videos. Thank you so much. You have helped me a lot. I still have issues getting my goldwing to lean you make it look so easy. Thank you again!
glad to hear it!
Dude. You are the GOAT. THANK YOU
Glad to help
The editing is getting so good!
thanks!
Hey, thanks for all the lessons. On my previous bikes I always practiced this kind of stuff. Now I own a 1150 GSA with a dry clutch, so I guess I need to move more to gas control instead of clutch control. Do you have any advice on that (maybe I missed a video). Thanks and greetings from Germany!
welcome!
Speed & control. Thanks
Absolutely correct! I have been teaching my students this for years.😀👍
more speed = more lean = tighter turns!
I have a question! I attended a Police department live course on a sportbike, specifically a gsxr750. During a slow speed tight U-turn course, I was able to make the turns of course by counterbalancing but with my butt OFF the seat to the other side. An officer gave me a feedback to stop doing that and keep my butt ON the seat and just counterbalance normally because it’s a bad habit. I had a harder time going forward in class. May I get your opinion on this?
Exactly, most of those cops don’t ride sport bikes and don’t understand what it takes to do the same drills on different bikes. Keep doing what you’re doing
@@MotoJitsuThank you
Do you recommend starting coming straight on directly towards the line or be coming more like middle and turn/lean at angle towards line before looking leaning u turning left.. .If doing left u turns?
whatever works for you
Excellent vehicles in your garage. Red jeep and two bikes. WOW. Love it.
Your knowledge has been invaluable in training as a new rider.
Thank you
Thank you Moto Sensei. I will practice 👍🛵
If you're in a course and they tell you "just turn the bars" take it with a grain of salt. Practice slow speed balancing with zero lean angle, sure, but don't expect to get through my drills or through a cop-like course by "only turning the bars" without more speed & lean angle.
BRUH.... love your content and it has helped me SO MUCH. I share your information with anyone that will listen!!!!!
I appreciate that!
Motojitsu don’t be that guy !!!
When was the TITLE and COVER PICTURE of this video CHANGED ?
hi, first of all i want to thank you that you gave me a lot of insight on low speed turns, I am a new learner from Hong Kong and in our exam we have a figure 8 drills on a slope that we need to perform. If you need videos I can send you some on what we actually need to do. I am struggling at the moment on the slow speed performance. I understand more now about the chin pointing to where I want to go, but in this drill we cannot use the clutch as the stopping mechanism. We need to only rely on the throttle and rear brake. Will you able to give me some idea how to handle it thank you
more practice, like anything else you're trying to improve at
Frak! Nice garage floor! I'm so glad you had your eyes up and weren't looking down at it! WHAM!
When you turn a Motorcycle\Bicycle front wheels in either direction, you will be fighting Gravity, because your bike will lean, so yes, you will need speed to fight gravity, and you need to lean, more lean will result to tighter turns. It may seem that you can actually turn a motorcycle/bicycle without leaning, but it is leaning, heck put a carpenters alignment too on your handlebar and watch the bubble :D it leans on its own, when you turn the bar
If I am leaning to the right in a right turn and want to turn left immediately, should I still push the handlebar to the left? Does the counter steering still apply when leaning to the opposite side?
Counter steer always works and always applies at any speed
This is brilliant. Low speed skills makes one a far better rider than publicity stunts..
During my course here in QC, I had to do u-turns from a stop. When I figured out more speed = more success, it was a game changer and got me ready for the test.
sweet!
Love your passion to teach and share your years of knowledge, keep up the great work 👌🏻
Thanks, will do!
Nice content. Thanks
You just blew up some training, but I agree 💯!
Motorcycle instructors do teach beginners to look at where you want to go, simply because beginners are afraid, and a motorcycle is a wonder of machinery but also an overwhelming piece of engineering for most people at first, especially if you have been used to drive a car and the idea to drive a 200kg+ motorcycle as a 80kg average is a great challenge if we think about. As beginners tend to overgrip their handlebars, looking at where you go means for beginners being able to turn because looking will imply turning the shoulders, which are connected to the arms, which are connected to the handlebars. Then, when a beginner starts to realize it can be more beneficial to be easing the grip on the handlebars, and drive the motorcycle more with the lower part of their body (the legs and abs), they can learn more advanced techniques like yours. I really love your videos and I've learned a lot, but I think that there is no wrong or right techniques, motorcycles instructors were, are and will always teach relevant techniques for their audience (beginners). Your audience has evolved with you, so you teach intermediate as well as advanced techniques. Also, you can't go that fast if you are in a heavy traffic so that's why here in France motorcycle instructors do teach slow speed (maybe we should call it very slow speed because in your video slow speed means around 10km/h as you are taking those turn pretty fast even though its not that fast) simply because you will have situation where you need to be below 5km/h but still don't wan't to drop you big BMW 1250RT which weights 280kg+ and in a tight closed parking lot or in heavy traffic like in Paris, you can't be that fast that simply impossible. I hope to see more videos of yours that teach very slow speed techniques because you have some, but I feel like it is something that beginners tends to want to see because beginners tends to drop their bike mostly on very slow or even at a stop and I know I needed those techniques back then when I was a beginner. Love always!
I know...I taught for 8 years...but there's much more to learn beyond the basic info.
I wish I saw this years ago. Awesome video.
Thinking about it like this, you need that power of the rear wheel to DRIVE you forward. More power, more speed, more stability, great tips here 🎉
:)
I disagree on that one, and i'm a bit surprised by your stance as you defend slow speed skills usually.
Be able to lean that far at not so slow speed as you show is a great skill to have no argue in that but you shouldn't disregard even slower speed.
In several countries it's part of the motorcycle license exam to do a really slow speed ride through gates (1.5 to 2 mph or less ) without putting foot on the floor.
This is to learn to navigate in really crowded area, with lots of pedestrian or just with a lot of cars in a traffic jam where you dont have the luxury to go faster safely.
Though maybe it's less important in north america where you often have more room to maneuver, you should consider a "slow race" just as a different skill of balance to practice .
Real nice garage circles anyway✌
Don't care what's required in a test....do what you have to do to pass...but if you think that's all there is to learn, good luck. Try doing my MotoJitsu drills going 2mph or less...let me know how it goes for you.
I've done slow races and won many...you don't seem to get the point of this video.
ua-cam.com/video/Oy-O4cayhfo/v-deo.html
@@MotoJitsu I do get that you absolutely need to train to turn as you describe it in this video and not relly only on staying upright / turn bars only .
It just gave the impression that you think there is no point to be able to do even slower speed exercices, but with the link you provided i now see that it's not the case, my mistake.
I've followed your channel for a bit more than a year and have not seen that video.
Thanks for replying !
👍🏼
You are right and wrong when your assertion is put into context. What you are saying is progress when time is not an obstacle and is correct; however, in a beginner class, where they only have 10 total hours of riding to complete the course successfully, sometimes a u-turn in a 20ft box is all but impossible and there’s not enough time available to practice going faster like you describe, especially with new riders who are scared already. To get them to pass the low speed maneuver parts of the course, the technique you said to avoid can be and has been used successfully. Sit up straight and just turn the handlebars at idle speed will get a nervous beginner to the next step, it’s either that, or send them home. Call it a white belt, just unfolded and put on for the first time. That is in a beginner class where the only prerequisite is riding a bicycle and has worked out many times. Speed can be the enemy in low speed u-turns with scared beginners, even though it is right. It doesn’t help anyone to show them that I can do a full lock u-turn in half of the area that they are making a u-turn in for the first time. BTW, thanks for your content and channel, kept in context it is always spot on. You’re a very good rider and it shows.
That was great Greg.
thanks....share it!
WILCO!
Hello.
Thank you for all of your content it’s been very helpful and appreciated!
Can you please address front tire grip trust? I understand about lean angles and how my motorcycle is far below the 45° angle and all of that but still…
Maybe do a “short” about it?
As soon as I start to feel the bike lean from a dead stop uturn and I have the revs up and I got the handlebars locked and the friction zone is all good and then the front suspension starts to compress and I feel pressure on the bars to hold the front tire turned, I suddenly feel like I’m on a dirtbike on dirt and I’m going to push the front tire out from under me. It’s ridiculous because I’ve been been riding since I was 6 years old of course starting in the dirt and getting on the street at 16 and riding ever since. I ride every day now on a 2022 Road King special and I can kind of do everything and scrape my floorboards but it just scares the crap out of me and I feel like I got away with one every time. I watch other UA-camrs and nobody really discusses it much so I feel like it’s just a given that the front tire will stick without a front brake grab and I’m having a “duh dude” situation goin on here.
Anyways thank you very much for reading my long message lol
Thanks again
Mike
Go practice more. There’s no trick or secret
@@MotoJitsu solid advise but I am tho and I’m doing it well actually. Just wanted to hear your philosophy on front tire grip is all. I can’t be the only one with this illogical concern.
It’s ok I’ll figure it out thank you
don't think about it at all.
@@MotoJitsu Perfect that’s pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much!
yup, i was going too slow starting out, mostly apprehension. got the speed up and lean lower, thanks motojitsu!
Keep it up
Hi I'm a new rider from Mexico, what do you think about the advices of the channel be the boss of your motorcycle ? Because he recommends use the rear break and preload
Cheers
Looking forward to practicing more, now that our weather is warm. Even a 17HP bike can have a twitchy throttle (mine does) which means more clutch work.
get to it!
Thanks for the continued vids MotoJitsu. You're saving lives and helping all of us at the same time. God Bless you and yours brother. 🇺🇸🫡
almost 500k!
@@MotoJitsu Cant wait to see 1 mil brother
maybe one day
It is not about too much knowledge, it is about training, experience and muscle memory. I ended up in such situation, when it seemed I had more knowledge than my instructor, but he had practice, training and experience. Believe it, or not, he poorly explained almost everything about slow speed maneuvers, but he was good at doing these maneuvers. So, during courses I just watched him doing his thing, and put in practice what i saw in your videos. At the end I told him I was quite disappointed about paying motorcycle school, just to have access to some motorcycles that should have been scrapped long time ago. Waste of time and money. Finally, I postponed the license exam with the police, and bought a small 50cc motorcycle which can be ridden with car license, and started learning by my own. Moto Jitsu App is helping me a lot.
The definition of knowledge is skills acquired through experience and practice, and muscle memory comes with that lol
keep at it!
Thank you!!! Awesome clip,Thats why I couldent do those turns on my sport bike .To Dam slow..Tried what you showed= Cake walk :) Thanks again
more leannnnnn!!!
I usually agree with you. But if you ride this way you will not be able to pass california driving skills test. May be you can because you are very very experienced but for a common casual rider, we don't need this kind of extreme skills in real life.
who cares what you need to do for the CA driving skills test? A LOT more to learn beyond the basics.
sadly many don't do anything to actually improve besides "ride more"
I agree one can always improve skills.
Hopefully you do: MotoJitsu.com/courses
Maybe the nuance is between “low speed” and “very low speed”. Filtering through tight traffic in city riding you can’t do 8-15 mph and often end up doing full lock turns it 1-5 mph.
Be the best you can be, and never stop learning how to do it better. 😊 practice never stops ✋️ 😅
For someone who grew up riding stingray bikes, a lot of my turning instincts were related to that, and my later commuting experiences. I think that going back to that in my mind, made me more comfortable trusting the bike wouldn’t do anything different if treated it the same. Not sure I’m conveying this correctly, but I love this video. Great stuff. 👍🤪🏳️🌈
Me and my 72' Schwinn Stingray.Those were the days.😊
thanks
Pulling out of an intersection, Checking for traffic coming from your right, while turning left, to join that flow of traffic.
thank you
welcome
Response to motocontrol?
@@mygi43543 can you reiterate some of it here for other viewers our saviour?
@@mygi43543 Motojitsu strikes me as someone who is continually learning and looking for feedback so I find it strange he deleted comment just because it made him look bad. Perhaps he is researching more into it?
Finally worked through your books and now I have nightmares about riding through my garage door!
lol!
@@MotoJitsu BTW, when I first started working on your first book (I was on a 1200cc Triumph) I kept dropping the bike in the parking lot. A couple of times the bike stalled because I came out of the friction zone too quickly on a turn, and other times the bike just dropped because i did not understand that I was going too slow. I was going to quit your books. I've been on bikes for years, but your slow speed levels just seemed too difficult. I then saw you talk about speed and lean, and it clicked. I jumped from your white to blue belt courses in a couple of weeks, then to brown, etc. It absolutely was the speed and lean. Now I'm on a BMW GS and at 66, I am having a blast. I also did the Champ school (online as I am in Japan) and that made all the difference on the twisties and mountain trails. I'm now working on off road skills. Don't stop learning and practicing!
Awesome to hear! Keep at it
I've been following your lessons for a few months now as I work up for my Spanish A2 licence. We have to do a slow speed course. Google it if you have time. Unfortunately, I don't think there's the capability of going faster around the sticks. Exam a week on Monday.
Are you sure ? Here it is pretty much "you must go no slower than X" but there isn't a top speed limit.
Just imagine you're your fellow countryman MM93. You'll be fine 😉
Moto Control 😂
Ok on 5:35 , dude that was impressive!
:)
I remember I took a course from motor officers and they told me the same thing. Their reasoning was it was a side by side parade technique. It’s cool in that setting but not very practical.
Do this in your next vid MotoJitsu… A simple demo is to use a light bike like a dirt bike. Mark a starting point from back tyre, turn with the bars locked and walk (yes, off the bike) 180 degrees. Mark the end point. Then go back to the start, full lock and LEAN the bike. See the difference. Light bulb 💡 moment!
Go for it