2 reasons. 1) They are on a parade deck run by Marines and will afford them Marine Corps courtesies 2) The Marines are attempting to break their bearing
Any cadet saying Aye Aye let himself get punked. The DIs loved that. Proper response was to cite the manual governing Army tradition and appropriate responses to an order. Then stick to it to the death.
lfearthereaper lmao I am Army and we got sharked by some USMC DIs. If they want something done you do it as quickly as possible -1 second. Much respect to them from the Army
Former Marine Sgt here. The key word is cadets. Marine DIs are addressed as Sir or Ma'am until your earn the right to address them by rank or grade. As a student or recruit, until you have your EGA or your services insignia, you don't rate to addresss them as anything other than Sir.
Clearly you don't understand, I learned this from the past video from a Marine. The DI was playing mind games with the cadet, if the cadet were to say "Aye, Aye Sir" he would've gotten chewed out more. The DI was proud that he was standing by his branch and duties.
@AiMhgsmith2 Uhh that's the point of being a drill team. Not all cadets are in the drill team and certainly do not act like robots out in the field. Every drill team I've ever seen perform are like robots, from every JROTC branch to the Marine Corps. silent drill platoon, they are supposed to act like robots to keep a uniform discipline. They have to perform like this because this is an inspection. It's not like they are going to apply drill and ceremonies to field situations.
Okay, if I was a cadet in that drill team, I clearly just heard my Captain say we're not subjected to saying "Aye aye Sir" so my responses would be "YES SIR" or "NO SIR". THAT'S IT!
Attention to detail. Who is in charge of the inspection? Since it is a Marine Corps inspection, Marine Corps rules dictate responses. Plus, the lead inspector instructed the unit commander in what is expected (the proper response[s]).
heh, I find the Capris comment priceless. As we all know, when you have put on a little weight you tend to wear your pants higher, causing those regulation length pants to sit a little higher on your corframs. In all honesty though that swarm of DI's just made me sigh a little smile of joy. You can't beat memories of getting shredded in a sandpit and the "oh shit" pucker factor when they all descend on you like a cloud of locusts.
Um, Rank does not equal Billet. If the cadets were placed under the NCO's command for inspection, then the NCO's billet supercedes the Cadets rank. Billet supercedes rank, ALWAYS.
A rank provides a Marine an additional duty since certain additional duties require certain ranks. As in being a Drill Instructor. The Drill Instructor is either going to be a Sergeant or Staff Sergeant. Gunnery Sergeants and above instruct the Sergeant to become a Drill Instructor. Besides, cadets are not officially on active duty status while Drill Instructors are.
They are not in an E5 grade for rank or pay. Cadet is an actual rank by regulation, and it falls between Warrant Officer and Enlisted. The pay grade is "special" according to AR600-20.
Usually aye aye sir is used when you are given a direct order and you acknowledge and will preform yes sir usually is like if someone asks you if you understand a question.
I don’t see why everyone is having beef in between branches . If I ever have to lay down my life for another soldier, marine, or airmen on the battlefield I would, I don’t give a shit who thinks who is better. We all represent that American flag that has been flying high since the beginning of our country. Now I get the competitiveness between branches. It’s just like brothers giving each other shit. But when it comes down to it they all have each others back!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸
Btw, if you ask for an inspection team of Marine Drill Instructors, they will behave like...Marine Drill Instructors. Imagine that. The organizers of the event knew exactly what they were going to subject those cadets to. It was probably the whole point of that. Been on the recieving end of those inspections at Parris Island back in the day. Just warms my heart to see that LOL !
I am not in the military but i notice after the DI went for weapons inspection, a Marine talks to the cadet commander pretty softly and the DI didn't get upset with him when he kept on saying Yes sir instead of aye aye sir
I posted this in a similar video: Aye Aye Sir...is used in the Navy and Marine Corps as a response to an order or instruction. It means "Order understood AND will be carried out". Yes Sir and No Sir are used to answer questions that require a yes or no answer. There is a difference. Also, the cadets have no rank outside their own corps of cadets, therefore, they are subject to the orders of the Inspection team.
he was fucked the second he tried to argue that his trousers were in regs. Yes, they rest atop the corframs with not more than one break. The rear also rests 1/4" above the heel. His tailor fucked up and he didn't realize it for how long? Everyone else in his platoon has their trousers properly maintained.
Ok, so here's my .02. Good on the team commander for trying to have the integrity for sticking to his "guns" so to speak. However, there comes a time that you have to adapt to your environment, and do what needs to be done to accomplish the mission within boundaries. As soon as the DI's saw this guy was wound up tight, he became cannon fodder, as did his troops. Marines adapt and overcome. That was what these DI's were waiting to see, and why they pushed harder. There's a method to the madness.
I quote Article 92 of the UCMJ (In pertinent part): “Any person subject to this chapter who- (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
no, I mentioned the purple heart and combat experience because you claimed I had done nothing.. And no, we're not the only country that gives out feel good medals. Pretty much every military does just that.
@JAGMoose While yes they are on active duty status no they do not out rank anyone....they are cadets who have not been commisioned yet and cadet is not a military rank. They make the pay of an O-1 but they don't rate anything else that goes along with the actual rank of O-1
@dw053408 Uhh no, a quick search of other SCIDM videos show that the DIs harassing the cadets is typical. He is not obligated to say, "aye aye, sir" as he is not a sailor or a Marine.
Oh you figured out how to use google maps finally? That's an important first step. It's like an 8 hour drive, and I know you'll need to get your magical powers ready, so I expect to see you sometime tomorrow afternoon.
@AiMhgsmith2 Excuse me? As a Drill Team Commander, I have to disagree. They work as a team so hell, when they do something they do it all together and very precise. We're all the same in the end. Marines, Army, Air Force, Navy whatever your nation has, they are still soldiers and officers.
@BrianT175 you seem to have been confused by my post as we are in total agreement about protocol. the point i was making was that any cadet that switched to 'aye aye' failed his squad which was exactly what the dis were trying to intimidate them into doing. once the dis broke the cadets focus, the rest descended upon them like vultures.
Nor did I ever imply military equipment/operations are inexpensive. In fact, that's an argument in my favor, not yours. Contractors are cheaper, even with the higher salaries. Contractors don't build up pensions, medical coverage, require training, stateside housing, family benefits, etc etc. They also only get paid while they're working. Whereas troops get paid even in peacetime. And you're right, I was nothing before the Marines, because I was 18... also "anyways" isn't a word.
But the UCMJ, on which AR 600-20 is based, absolutely is. Sorry if it hurts your pride, but USMA cadets outrank enlisted personnel, DoD-wide. It's just a fact.
Agree with your statement 100%. This is at the Southern California Invitational Drill Meet, which cannot confer a DoD billet. So the Marine lacks any billet authority. There were not orders attaching the USMA drill team to this Marine's unit whatever it may be.
When Marine recruits go through boot camp, they address their DIs and other Marines as "sir/ma'am". After they complete boot camp and become Marines, then they stop addressing NCOs as sir/ma'am in the same manner as the other services.
You do what the inspecting officer tells you to do, it's not about Marines vs Army or any of that crap. Just like if a Army Drill Sergeant inspects an Air Force unit at the Drill Sergeant's preference you respond Yes Drill Sergeant!! at the top your lungs. This is in invitational drill meet (SCIDM), if they aren't willing to be flexible than they should't accept the invitation plain and simple. This is coming from a Marine and a former AFJROTC cadet.
Guys there isn't much to debate. This is a west point cadet. West point cadets don't make mistakes at this stage of training. Its a 4 year boot camp. Marine boot pales in comparison. Unless anyone commenting went to west point or its peers you pale in comparison.
Inspectorzinn2 shut the fuck up. School is not the military, knowing a bit of drill ain't shit if you don't have actual combat and mental training you fucking tool.
Late response but....I think you misunderstand the 'lambs to the slaughter' comment. I believe that comment refers to the Marine DI's lighting those poor cadets up, not as in 'going to war to die'.
No, not quiet a desk jockey, and far from an MOH. Just an 03 with two combat tours to fallujah, purple heart, and 3 years of work in theater as a private security contractor. West Point and ROTC produces bureaucrats and pencil pushers, your much maligned "Desk Jockeys." Of course good ones crop up from that bunch from time to time, but the best officers are almost always former enlisted.
Not unless the cadets are under the NCO's chain of command, if that's the case then rank doesn't matter at all. Also, AR 600-20 does not apply to USMC.
ouch !!! 5 hats versus a small platoon from henry hudson high(yes im from n.y. its ok)not good odds reminds me of me in boot camp the cadets did a great job of holdin it together.
And I quote this portion of the explaination to Article 92: "A member of one armed force who is senior in rank to a member of another armed force is the superior of that member with authority to issue orders which that member has a duty to obey" AR 600-20 conclusively shows that Cadets are superior in rank to E-5s. "As you were" was not being arrogant, he was issuing a lawful order. The Cadet only went to that extreme (they almost never do such a thing) because the DI was WAYYYY out of order.
@@diazaa that inspection doesn't look like drill to me and for them to demand soon to be ARMY officers to respond like that is humiliation and not professional
@@douglascampbell5284 SCIDM= Southern California Invitational DRILL Meet. Responding with the proper customs and courtesies of your inspectors is far from humiliation.
im not a fan of West Point ( I went to The Citadel) but this is an absolute atrocity. Im curious as to what transpired once these DIs got back on post. Just saying
I feel like that team commander didn't score very high on his inspection. As far as I know, you never refer yourself as "I" when in an inspection like this. Specifically Cadets if I'm right. "this cadet does not know sir"
Unless you know something more than can be seen in this video, that's a unnecessarily hasty/inappropriate conclusion. Seems they're doing a fine job to me.
If you can come up with a compelling reason, I'll give it to you. You said you were going to kill me, I gave you my address. I live alone. Make it happen.
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2 reasons. 1) They are on a parade deck run by Marines and will afford them Marine Corps courtesies 2) The Marines are attempting to break their bearing
Soon as I saw all the other DI's coming in I was like..."awwww SNAP here it comes..."
Any cadet saying Aye Aye let himself get punked. The DIs loved that. Proper response was to cite the manual governing Army tradition and appropriate responses to an order. Then stick to it to the death.
Marine Drill Instructors are the best!
I graduated from Parris Island, 1980 🇺🇸
Lol I love how they make these army cadets say "aye aye sir"
lfearthereaper lmao I am Army and we got sharked by some USMC DIs. If they want something done you do it as quickly as possible -1 second. Much respect to them from the Army
Former Marine Sgt here. The key word is cadets. Marine DIs are addressed as Sir or Ma'am until your earn the right to address them by rank or grade. As a student or recruit, until you have your EGA or your services insignia, you don't rate to addresss them as anything other than Sir.
USMC DI #1: Since when does West Point wear capris?
USMC DI #2: That's my question.
USMA CDT: I do not, sir.
Clearly you don't understand, I learned this from the past video from a Marine.
The DI was playing mind games with the cadet, if the cadet were to say "Aye, Aye Sir" he would've gotten chewed out more. The DI was proud that he was standing by his branch and duties.
Love all US military, but just wanted to say, GO ARMY!!!
When six more DIs enter the pad 😳😳😳
Funny as hell watching Army Cadets saying Aye sir.
@AiMhgsmith2 Uhh that's the point of being a drill team. Not all cadets are in the drill team and certainly do not act like robots out in the field. Every drill team I've ever seen perform are like robots, from every JROTC branch to the Marine Corps. silent drill platoon, they are supposed to act like robots to keep a uniform discipline. They have to perform like this because this is an inspection. It's not like they are going to apply drill and ceremonies to field situations.
The rest of the platoon were probably like "Oh fuck there's more of them!"
Ahaaaa army cadets being forced to scream aye sir🤣 i love it
Okay, if I was a cadet in that drill team, I clearly just heard my Captain say we're not subjected to saying "Aye aye Sir" so my responses would be "YES SIR" or "NO SIR". THAT'S IT!
Attention to detail. Who is in charge of the inspection? Since it is a Marine Corps inspection, Marine Corps rules dictate responses. Plus, the lead inspector instructed the unit commander in what is expected (the proper response[s]).
@@kevinphillips150 This is the US Military Academy, they are subject to Army Regulations, and Cadets rank above enlisted but below Warrant Officers.
heh, I find the Capris comment priceless. As we all know, when you have put on a little weight you tend to wear your pants higher, causing those regulation length pants to sit a little higher on your corframs. In all honesty though that swarm of DI's just made me sigh a little smile of joy. You can't beat memories of getting shredded in a sandpit and the "oh shit" pucker factor when they all descend on you like a cloud of locusts.
Um, Rank does not equal Billet. If the cadets were placed under the NCO's command for inspection, then the NCO's billet supercedes the Cadets rank. Billet supercedes rank, ALWAYS.
A rank provides a Marine an additional duty since certain additional duties require certain ranks. As in being a Drill Instructor. The Drill Instructor is either going to be a Sergeant or Staff Sergeant. Gunnery Sergeants and above instruct the Sergeant to become a Drill Instructor. Besides, cadets are not officially on active duty status while Drill Instructors are.
Bull#%$
They are not in an E5 grade for rank or pay. Cadet is an actual rank by regulation, and it falls between Warrant Officer and Enlisted. The pay grade is "special" according to AR600-20.
Usually aye aye sir is used when you are given a direct order and you acknowledge and will preform yes sir usually is like if someone asks you if you understand a question.
Like the difference between a 'direct order' and a 'lawful order'?
I don’t see why everyone is having beef in between branches . If I ever have to lay down my life for another soldier, marine, or airmen on the battlefield I would, I don’t give a shit who thinks who is better. We all represent that American flag that has been flying high since the beginning of our country. Now I get the competitiveness between branches. It’s just like brothers giving each other shit. But when it comes down to it they all have each others back!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸
chrismw88 Its just that: a sibling rivalry; we all give each other shit, even though we’re the same family
3:39 sharks in the water.
For those wondering aye sir is a response to a command and yes sir is a response to a question.
ChixDig Gixxers Correction, in the Navy and Marine Corps that is true. For the Army and Air Force "aye aye" does not exist.
"Aye sir" is a term only used by Marines and the Navy. Since these cadets are from West Point, an Army school, "Aye sir" is not something they say.
David A West Point is actually for the Army and Marine Corps.
XDeadliestSin13 prospective Marine officers go to the Naval Academy
XDeadliestSin13 Since the Marine Corps is a part of the Navy. Contrary to popular belief, the marines are NOT their own branch of service
Btw, if you ask for an inspection team of Marine Drill Instructors, they will behave like...Marine Drill Instructors. Imagine that. The organizers of the event knew exactly what they were going to subject those cadets to. It was probably the whole point of that. Been on the recieving end of those inspections at Parris Island back in the day. Just warms my heart to see that LOL !
I am not in the military but i notice after the DI went for weapons inspection, a Marine talks to the cadet commander pretty softly and the DI didn't get upset with him when he kept on saying Yes sir instead of aye aye sir
YES........SIR!
It is the way west point trains. they have to answer in that way just like just each different branch has a different way of answering a question.
Cookie and Cupcakes. So sweet.
I posted this in a similar video: Aye Aye Sir...is used in the Navy and Marine Corps as a response to an order or instruction. It means "Order understood AND will be carried out". Yes Sir and No Sir are used to answer questions that require a yes or no answer. There is a difference. Also, the cadets have no rank outside their own corps of cadets, therefore, they are subject to the orders of the Inspection team.
yes........Sir
6, count em, 6 sharks, over!
he was fucked the second he tried to argue that his trousers were in regs. Yes, they rest atop the corframs with not more than one break. The rear also rests 1/4" above the heel. His tailor fucked up and he didn't realize it for how long? Everyone else in his platoon has their trousers properly maintained.
Ok, so here's my .02. Good on the team commander for trying to have the integrity for sticking to his "guns" so to speak. However, there comes a time that you have to adapt to your environment, and do what needs to be done to accomplish the mission within boundaries. As soon as the DI's saw this guy was wound up tight, he became cannon fodder, as did his troops. Marines adapt and overcome. That was what these DI's were waiting to see, and why they pushed harder. There's a method to the madness.
Marines are Warriors, cadetes are kids.
Those Marine Drill Instructors sound like Daffy Duck on helium. Army Drill Sergeants have a booming, command voice. GO ARMY BEAT NAVY
Pog boot fuck
I quote Article 92 of the UCMJ (In pertinent part):
“Any person subject to this chapter who-
(2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”
Enlisted does not give orders...only directives.
no, I mentioned the purple heart and combat experience because you claimed I had done nothing.. And no, we're not the only country that gives out feel good medals. Pretty much every military does just that.
@JAGMoose While yes they are on active duty status no they do not out rank anyone....they are cadets who have not been commisioned yet and cadet is not a military rank. They make the pay of an O-1 but they don't rate anything else that goes along with the actual rank of O-1
@dw053408 Uhh no, a quick search of other SCIDM videos show that the DIs harassing the cadets is typical. He is not obligated to say, "aye aye, sir" as he is not a sailor or a Marine.
Looks cool and snappy, just like the Philippine Military Academy in Baguio city, Philippines. But its different.
So did you quit bootcamp before you hit the yellow footprints? or did you last a few weeks before you pussed out?
I would shit myself if i was surrounded by so many smokey bears
@specops24th That cadet is maintaining Army discipline. He simply refused to say "Aye Aye Sir". Also simply because the Army do not say "Aye Aye Sir".
USMA CDT: I am acting as command Sir
USMC DI: acting? your not acting, your FAILING IT!
Oh you figured out how to use google maps finally?
That's an important first step. It's like an 8 hour drive, and I know you'll need to get your magical powers ready, so I expect to see you sometime tomorrow afternoon.
@AiMhgsmith2 Excuse me? As a Drill Team Commander, I have to disagree. They work as a team so hell, when they do something they do it all together and very precise. We're all the same in the end. Marines, Army, Air Force, Navy whatever your nation has, they are still soldiers and officers.
You're welcome to try.
And Army Regulations do not apply to the Marine Corps.
Except when dealing with that branch on their terms. When a Marine is at an Army school, Army regulations take effect as well as Marine regulations.
Favorite line of the whole video are those Capris?
If they haven't been commissioned yet, I don't think it applied.
@BrianT175 you seem to have been confused by my post as we are in total agreement about protocol. the point i was making was that any cadet that switched to 'aye aye' failed his squad which was exactly what the dis were trying to intimidate them into doing. once the dis broke the cadets focus, the rest descended upon them like vultures.
Nor did I ever imply military equipment/operations are inexpensive. In fact, that's an argument in my favor, not yours. Contractors are cheaper, even with the higher salaries. Contractors don't build up pensions, medical coverage, require training, stateside housing, family benefits, etc etc. They also only get paid while they're working. Whereas troops get paid even in peacetime.
And you're right, I was nothing before the Marines, because I was 18...
also "anyways" isn't a word.
But the UCMJ, on which AR 600-20 is based, absolutely is. Sorry if it hurts your pride, but USMA cadets outrank enlisted personnel, DoD-wide. It's just a fact.
Tobin Hobbs you're out of your mind.
Tobin Hobbs they're not even commissioner. They're borderline civilian
@@muchpandassowow9726 Table 1-1 says otherwise.
After the command ready front isn't he supposed to give the command say cover? Just wondering.
That robot is swimming in a whole pool of pay grades higher then you'd ever be.
Agree with your statement 100%. This is at the Southern California Invitational Drill Meet, which cannot confer a DoD billet. So the Marine lacks any billet authority. There were not orders attaching the USMA drill team to this Marine's unit whatever it may be.
When Marine recruits go through boot camp, they address their DIs and other Marines as "sir/ma'am". After they complete boot camp and become Marines, then they stop addressing NCOs as sir/ma'am in the same manner as the other services.
at least we got our own school
You do what the inspecting officer tells you to do, it's not about Marines vs Army or any of that crap. Just like if a Army Drill Sergeant inspects an Air Force unit at the Drill Sergeant's preference you respond Yes Drill Sergeant!! at the top your lungs. This is in invitational drill meet (SCIDM), if they aren't willing to be flexible than they should't accept the invitation plain and simple. This is coming from a Marine and a former AFJROTC cadet.
@blackhawkroger Yes sir is a response when asked a yes or no question... Aye Aye sir is a response to confirm the execution of a direct order.
I'm surprised they let him get away with saying "I."
It was an open military inspection; not recruit training.
But then, there's still the Drill Evaluation rules. Depending on the requirements in the evaluation, it would still decide if they failed or not.
the way the unit leader says "yes sir" makes it seem like he has a damn speech impediment.
They should have followed the example of their Commander, when ordered to say it, it would behoove you to do so.
Guys there isn't much to debate. This is a west point cadet. West point cadets don't make mistakes at this stage of training. Its a 4 year boot camp. Marine boot pales in comparison. Unless anyone commenting went to west point or its peers you pale in comparison.
Inspectorzinn2 not to be be an jerk but boot camp my ass. Marine Boot camp is a hell of a lot more vigorous than an army service academy
Inspectorzinn2 shut the fuck up. School is not the military, knowing a bit of drill ain't shit if you don't have actual combat and mental training you fucking tool.
Late response but....I think you misunderstand the 'lambs to the slaughter' comment. I believe that comment refers to the Marine DI's lighting those poor cadets up, not as in 'going to war to die'.
Except I'm not, and even if I was, you specifically said you'd do it.
All talk, no action.
No, not quiet a desk jockey, and far from an MOH. Just an 03 with two combat tours to fallujah, purple heart, and 3 years of work in theater as a private security contractor. West Point and ROTC produces bureaucrats and pencil pushers, your much maligned "Desk Jockeys." Of course good ones crop up from that bunch from time to time, but the best officers are almost always former enlisted.
Are you going to put a spell on me with your magical powers?
You said you'd come kill, I offered my address, and you backed out.
internet toughguy.
Not unless the cadets are under the NCO's chain of command, if that's the case then rank doesn't matter at all. Also, AR 600-20 does not apply to USMC.
AR 600-20 does however apply to USMA.
@RNJuiceable Do you mean AR 600-20?
Holy fuck, that's a lot of senior drill instructors...
Air force calls NCO's sir..
Army Cadet saying Aye Aye sir? Thats a point loss, only Maritime branches say Aye Aye.
PilotRyan1533 it’s the criteria of the inspection so the cadet lost points not only that they lost the competition
no.
Do you ever do the things you say you're going to do?
ouch !!! 5 hats versus a small platoon from henry hudson high(yes im from n.y. its ok)not good odds reminds me of me in boot camp the cadets did a great job of holdin it together.
I feel ya pax it gave me jitters
Poor Army Cadets being drilled by Marines... They must want to cry... Makes me happy
And I quote this portion of the explaination to Article 92:
"A member of one armed force who is senior in rank to a member of another armed force is the superior of that member with authority to issue orders which that member has a duty to obey"
AR 600-20 conclusively shows that Cadets are superior in rank to E-5s. "As you were" was not being arrogant, he was issuing a lawful order. The Cadet only went to that extreme (they almost never do such a thing) because the DI was WAYYYY out of order.
Any marine conducting a inspection of Army personal should be familiar with AR 670-1 at a minimum
Those Marines were chosen and are primarily judging the drill portion.
@@diazaa that inspection doesn't look like drill to me and for them to demand soon to be ARMY officers to respond like that is humiliation and not professional
@@douglascampbell5284 SCIDM= Southern California Invitational DRILL Meet. Responding with the proper customs and courtesies of your inspectors is far from humiliation.
What about killing me though? 4 times you said you would.
im not a fan of West Point ( I went to The Citadel) but this is an absolute atrocity. Im curious as to what transpired once these DIs got back on post. Just saying
He could have nullified all criticism if he knew 670-1. I encourage all cadets/recruits to know regs inside/out.
branches use different voice inflection. surprised you didn't know that.
Contracting pays better.
ahhh the memories!!!
It was fun had already heard it all my life at 17. They couldn't do or say anything that hadn't already been done.
what are you talking about?
I feel like that team commander didn't score very high on his inspection. As far as I know, you never refer yourself as "I" when in an inspection like this. Specifically Cadets if I'm right. "this cadet does not know sir"
Correct the cadet only addresses his or herself as "this cadet" -Cadet Lieutenant Colonel Peña
+David Pena LOL gtfo here you LDAC spouting boot!
Which is also unenforceable on marines..
OH SHIT INTERNET THREATS! I live in Willoughby Ohio, come at me bro.
Shark ATTACK!!!!
Why is that boot wearing highwaters?
this is so beautiful. for 15 minutes army cadets get a small taste of what marines taste for three months.
Except these Army cadets are used to it as they have it for 4 years.
That doesn't even make sense.
But let's pretend you're right. That means you have even less to be afraid of. So, want my address yet?
@wtfispakdoing I'm a Marine, and I could respect that
I can't believe that the Cadet had no clue what his uniform consisted of. These are West Point Cadets not some JROTC.
Mike don't you ever say another word about my jrotc
Not even JROTC I know every part of my uniforms from top to bottom much more like ...Boys Scouts
@AaronfromWM Guess im an idot. I guess the writers of AR600-25 are too....
Unless you know something more than can be seen in this video, that's a unnecessarily hasty/inappropriate conclusion. Seems they're doing a fine job to me.
If you can come up with a compelling reason, I'll give it to you. You said you were going to kill me, I gave you my address. I live alone. Make it happen.
seems like they got it easy...
Disregard my earlier correction. You're apparently just trying to stir the pot.