The thing to remember about medieval medicine is they didn't have modern science but they had the same brains as anyone else. A lot of things they did because they worked even if no one knew why they worked.
Thank you. People tend to believe that people in the past were dumb. But they weren’t, they were just as smart/dumb as we are, they just didn’t know as much.
@@elijahbeasley7757 No, not really. The Roman Empire (workplace of many ancient surgeons) continued to exist till 1453 in Eastern Europe ("Byzantine Empire") so Europe had access to many of the works written by doctors and surgeons in antiquity. Next to it, the crusades allowed Europe to access more works preserved or written in the Muslim territories (Northern Africa). Furthermore, Europe had its own medical research facilities like the university of Bologna (oldest university in existence). Medical facilities existed in most European towns in the middle to late middle ages (in german speaking towns often called "Heilig Geist Spital" (Hospital of the Holy Spirit). Medical professionals (surgeons and physicians operated their side by side) and it is not unlikely that advances took place.
Honestly, in the case of Henry, it's not the fact the surgeon made the tool to get the arrow out (don't take impaled objects from your body please, call your country's emergency services and leave where it is), is the fact they prevented infection with the use of ointments made from plants and honey, not to mention they cleaned the wound everyday and reapply the "antibiotics". I can't find any information if they boiled the water first or if it was from the nearest river (even clear river water contains viruses, bacteria and parasites). I don't know why I've been reading about ancient healthcare but it appears our ancestors had a good grasp on treatments, just not the knowledge, techniques and technological advances we have today.
riverwater was a nono i think sense they brewed there own beeer as waterfiltering is a a series bout the tudor era in england somewhere on youtube and that is awsome higly recomend it .
Yes, please do more historical medicine and surgeries. That bit about Henry V is awesome cause his surgeon smithed out that device and iirc it took like three attempts to forge it to get it precise enough to do the job. Also, I know about how Obsidian was used in the past but I understand that there are some surgeons today that will take Obsidian over steel/metal surgical knives. It's crazy cause the truth is that the Barber or Blacksmith were more often than not the local surgeons as a side gig, think about that.
I saw a comparison of skin cut with a steel scalpel vs obsidian. The skin cut with steel looks like it was cut with a chainsaw when viewed through a microscope. Obsidian can be fine enough to cut straight through cells or even separate them without damage, rather than tear them.
I'm so glad I suffered an unstable pubic ramus fracture in 2011 instead of 1511. 0/10, do not recommend, but props to my amazing medical team. I love the videos! Thank you for all you do!
Ive always been amazed at how ancient surgeons discovered the anti bacterial property of honey and used it to clean wounds and tools despite not even knowing what bacteria was
Which is the exact reason why I could never be a surgeon, and why you have my utmost respect, as a person and for the service that you provide sir. Thank you
The history squad is a lovely channel. I'm glad that you shouted them out here. Anybody interested in learning a fairly detailed explanation of various medieval European historical phenomena or devices should absolutely check them out.
A little observation about the animal faeces on arrow tips. AFAIK that was a common practice since ancient times in order to make more lethal wounds with a subsequent infection, that's why (again AFAIK) Toxicology takes its name from the greek for archer: Toxotes
Yup. Archers would drive their arrows into the ground before opening fire so that the heads would pick up all of those fecal and soil-born bacteria, making it likely for anyone who survived a direct hit to die of infection. No vaccines or booster shots for tetanus back then...
Yup, people in the past may not have had the knowledge we have today, but they had the same brains. They didn't know *why* certain things made infection more or less likely, but they could certainly recognise that they did, and they acted upon those observations
Surgeons were professionaly trained. Barbers provided similar services but actual services were trained like craftsmen. A barber was like a modern apothecary or nurse (I struggle to find a proper comparison) but they occasionally travelled around and provided those services. But again, actual surgeons did exist and were quite experienced at their craft. For those who speak German I can suggest the youtube channel Geschichtsfenster which has a good episode on the topic of medieval medicine and surgery. The field manual of wound management (Feldbuch der Wundartzney - Hans von Gersdorff) describes the practices of a surgeon who served in the Burgundian wars (1470s - late middleages). It's a good primary source.
Kevin Hicks is great! I was lucky enough to see him doing his thing at both Warwick Castle and Sherwood years ago ... added to the fact he was a local bobby down the road too.
_Kevin Hicks from 'The History Squad' YT channel_ also has a really good way of skeeving you out utterly, then leaving you faint from blood loss, just out of sympathy for what those poor bastards had to endure. Firstly, the original trauma and then a possibly bigger trauma having it treated......and after all that, you still have to live through the infection that's definitely poisoning your blood. Kevin's highly enthusiastic use of his numerous dismembered body part props and passionate demonstrations of actual techniques straight out of mediaeval manuscripts, using authentic surgical tools, puts him way out in front of the competition. It's one of the most entertaining channels on this platform. You can see that the guy is genuinely passionate about the subject and that he truly loves making YT vids and teaching others. I can't recommend that channel highly enough, especially if you are a medical professional and/or just love learning about the daily lives and the blood n guts normal people had to endure throughout history.
I love that master and commander scene! You know damn well some serious acts of "naval surgey" was done on those ships! Speaking of which what a great idea for a video....cough...the ships docs logs after going into battle......oh my
I have been watching the history squad channel for at least a year it's really good to see that you featured him in your video I really hope to see more videos like this 😊😊
that one archer wondering why his kill feed isn't updating: *sleeps at night thinking he's safe* meanwhile Henry, now with the LMG of religious intent and sitting in the corner of the archer's house: [in thanos's voice] "YOU SHOULD'VE GONE FOR THE CHEST"
I have met not as medieval but current small town senior Pakistany surgeon staying in UK trying to pass conversion to UK/Eu licence (before Brexit). He has been showing me how the same Devalt cordless drill. same as I use when doing electric repairs, looks when nurse cleaned on his Surgery equipment table. He was proud that his cousin, brought it to him from Germany, because the hospital one was too week and slow. It was a powerful drill, which made Devalt the brand it is now, but it wasn't a precision tool. (But that might have been a result of me constantly abusing it, few falls from scaffolding..) Funny that I have newer found out how his UK/Eu medical licence went, just that he still lives in Pakistan.
@@samsonsoturian6013theres no way they could have cauterized that deep of wound all the way, and burn wounds also can get badly infected, and it was actually used mainly to stem the bleeding. I think if i remember correctly the doctor sealed, and filled the wound with honey wich is antiseptic substance still just luck the prince survived without modern medicine although the surgeon was amazing for his era
I have actually seen a video and there was a deer in it and it had an arrow through its head. Dont know how it managed to live but it did. The body works in mysterious ways.
In the Punisher Netflix series Frank gets an infection after an arrow hits him in the shoulder, his friend who is a former medic has to basically do surgery on him to get the head of the arrow out. Could we get your take on that scene?
I was actually watching an interesting video yesterday in which the host showed how much the ancient world actually knew about medicine. For example, they understood contagions, inflammation and infection. They may not of known exactly what caused it but they realized disease could be contagious, and that infections could lead to death. Tourniquets surprisingly date back to before Alexander the Great. Tragically, a lot of this knowledge was lost with the fall of the Roman Empire. But he read some translated documents from ancient times, and things like washing wounds, using honey on wounds, cutting blood flew off from limbs that were heavily bleeding, among so many other things. Sadly in the times of Greece they didn't know how to stop bleeding if an artery was cut, so even with Tourniquets they couldn't fix people who suffered extreme injuries.
Copper and silver are fascinating for their abilities to prevent microbial growth. While mostly tested under lab conditions only, +95% copper containers were able to defeat some nasty bugs. They would use glass as a control, and then close the lid of each container. Within 6 hours most of the common stuff, e. Coli for one, was dead. But even C. Diff which can live on metal or other common surfaces for more than 6 months, typically require bleach solutions to kill, was dead in 12-18 hours depending on copper concentration. So in the lab, you could safely drink the water after one day, but the glass containers spawned colonies. We still don't fully understand this, and it hasn't been properly tested in the field. The Romans noticed aqueducts wouldn't grow scum if there was copper in the water or construction. Since copper can be consumed fairly safely, I hope to see more research on this. All the steel in hospitals should be switched to copper and its alloys, bronze, brass, and cupronickel depending on need. My opinion.
As a construction worker and home re-modeler I've noticed that houses, usually older ones, that have some copper flashing on their roofs don't have mold or mildew on the shingles where the water runs off the flashing while the rest of the roof does.
@@azmc4940 the surgical stuff can be steel because they throw it away after one use. And copper does not corrode easily. Copper rooves will develop a green patina but it takes more than a decade exposed to the elements. If sinks, counter tops, door handles, etc... were copper it would be better. And where copper is too soft, use bronze or a zinc copper alloy. Bronze swords from ancient Greece could remove limbs easily. The kopis could cut most of the bones in the torso with one swing because its designed to work like an axe.
7:41 - Honest question: Why couldn't we have just built a guillotene type device to lop off extremeties?? If it could get through a neck, could it not get through anything else?
Honey was important in the old days even for injuries, and Egyptians i heard used molded bread on wounds. Bread mold and Honey had some antibiotic type properties, Salt was used in wounds and can be helpful. Cayenne pepper powder helps blood clot up. Clove Oil has a numbing type quality and can help reduce pain and can help with tooth aches.. These are but just a Few Things. It would have been good in older days to take troops off the battlefield, that had been injured in some way, to have their wounds looked at an evaluated. Some could've needed boiled water mixed with Honey and some salt to help rinse clean their wounds. Then have cleaned, or boiled and dried wool or cotton to cover those wounds. Keep those troops with select wounds in a separate area from non wounded troops or those with the minor injuries that didnt need medical care, and those more seriously wounded and need more care. So they could get rest, maybe a ration of some alcohol, or boiled but cooled water and a ration of some food and meats so they can get nourishment to keep their strength up to get well. Let them be monitored for a few days up to a week and have their dressings changed out 2-3×'s a day. It would have likely reduced infections or gangrene from setting in, or unnecessary pains and discomfort, it could've reduced prolonged recovery times, it may have reduced death and loss of experienced troops. If they had a slightly deep, long gash just for instance that was being stitched up and they were being treated, they didnt need completely pulled away from where they couldn't still get in the fight if the need required it or to protect the medical, an staff and those worse off.
This was crazy... I literally just finished watching Master and Commander, turn on UA-cam to check my home page, and here you are... *click* OPENEING SCENE I SAW LIKE 1HR AGO. WTF.
"...you'd have to push it all the way through, so the chap would probably die." "And I mean, that's a tad less than ideal." Oh, is that your professional opinion, Doc? That deadpan delivery made me laugh unreasonably hard at that one. 🤣
John Bradmoore was absolutely genius coming up with that device to remove arrow heads, and considering he came up with it in a relatively short span of time, coupled with his own mix of medicinal honey he was definitely ahead of his time for 15th century medicine.
Arrows are usually taken out the opposite end as it’s easier but for the face. They removed the wooden shaft and created a screw bit and slowly got it out. Rough but doable.
Infection has to be the thing that has killed more people than anything else in history. Back then, even a splinter or a paper cut could be the end of you. It even lead to some grim, but silly tales of people going through war after war, just to be ended by stubbing their toe. One that comes to mind was a warrior that beheaded someone and took the head with him as a trophy. He tied it to his horse and on the ride back the head swung around from being jostled and the teeth put a gash on the warrior's leg. The resulting infection killed him. Truly a karmic moment.
Liston was a very interesting man and a pioneer in modern medicine, he was so fast at amputation he could cut a leg off in 2.5mins and with a personal best of 28secs. When ether was discovered he was the first to perform a amputation with it.
This video was awesome! Henry V went on to be one of the most important rulers in English history, so maybe it simply just wasn't his time? He didn't reign long, but it left a lasting mark on England and the world at the time. This was cool!
This made me think of the scene in Kingdom of Heaven where the main character's father gets shot with an arrow in the right side of his torso, and manages to break the shaft. Two scenes later, one of his companions (a Knight of the Hospitallers) is trying to remove the arrow with a pair of pliers, but it's stuck. He then said, "If the marrow has entered the blood, you'll take a fever and die. Or it'll form a cyst, and you'll live". Is there any truth to this?
How different do you think the world might be if one person went back in time and just taught them to wash their hands? How different do you think things would be if that same person was able to transport with them a huge quantity of antimicrobial hand soap for distribution?
an important detail is that the romans (probably others as well but thats outside of my expertise) were aware of silver somehow aiding in wound healing. Silver plates where used to fix bones and cover holes in The skull just like silver blades where used by The more reputable surgeons of the time. As the scene in Rome shows it was a common treatment for brain swelling after blunt force trauma.
Thanks for education doc, i can learn the history of treatmeant n medical of medival time line, i personally recommend doc break down history on china surgeon n medical treatment, it nearly in morden time in my knowlege
The UA-cam channel "TheHistorySquad" has some good videos on ancient surgery, including pain medication, infection prevention, wound drainage, battlefield triage, etc..
cant even imagine seeing a black blob coming at you and all the sudden you have an arrow stuck under you eye. also creating more and more damage because of the weight of the stick that is still hanging out😅😖
Been watching this guy because a character I've come up with is a medical superhero whose day job is curator of a musem of medical history. So he likely has one of those gizmos on display, along with a diagram showing how it was used.
Errr...didnt Florence Nightingale conduct studies of British, i think, Crimean war veterans within a field hospital the results of which started the slow and steady march towards the understanding of the principles of infection control prior to the use of anesthesia or anything like carbolic acid? As an aside, theres a closely linked story of a Jamaican lady Mary Seacole that you may very well enjoy reading up on.
I was prescribed medical grade honey for road rash up both my legs after crashing a motorbike a few years back, healed up amazingly with no scaring on either leg
History of Medicine is really interesting because there is medicinal development in the Ancient Greek and roman eras, but then a lot of that knowledge is lost during the following decades with the Inquisition andother wars going on that burned a lot of records that had info on all the discoveries. So in the medieval era, there is a re-discovery of certain methods (especially of hygiene). I can only wonder how medival times would've been if we hadn't lost the earlier pieces of knowledge.
I feel like war played an important part in medical history, it's crazy that something so violent can bring great advancements. I mean without war we wouldn't have half the technology we do now .
If you think this is interesting, go read the unquiet bones by Mel Starr. it's about a surgeon during the plague years and it's full of medieval surgeries.
Of course, it's one of the biggest cultural differences between surgeons in the UK vs much of the rest of the world; barber-surgeons trained as apprentices, rather than academically, and that persists in the habit of surgeons being adressed as "mister"(or equivalent as per the surgeon's preference) rather than "doctor". There are exceptions, of course - mainly those who hold a postgraduate research degree or a professorship at a university. I've had the misfortune to need a fair old whack of surgery, and have therefore had surgeons using all those forms of address (figuratively)up to their elbows in my innards. And since I'm still ticking, they must not have done too much wrong.
You know, they could've used a set up similar to a guillotine to amputate limbs rather than different knives. Granted, the guillotine method may cause a little more damage to the bones.
On the coin, silver has antibiotic properties. I don't believe they understood this but silver was the prefered type of coin. Higher recovery rates may have been a factor.
The thing to remember about medieval medicine is they didn't have modern science but they had the same brains as anyone else. A lot of things they did because they worked even if no one knew why they worked.
Medicine was much more advanced before the medieval period, but it was all but lost when the roman empire collapsed.
@@elijahbeasley7757 Medieval people thought that but we have no idea if that were true
Thank you. People tend to believe that people in the past were dumb. But they weren’t, they were just as smart/dumb as we are, they just didn’t know as much.
@@elijahbeasley7757 No, not really. The Roman Empire (workplace of many ancient surgeons) continued to exist till 1453 in Eastern Europe ("Byzantine Empire") so Europe had access to many of the works written by doctors and surgeons in antiquity. Next to it, the crusades allowed Europe to access more works preserved or written in the Muslim territories (Northern Africa). Furthermore, Europe had its own medical research facilities like the university of Bologna (oldest university in existence). Medical facilities existed in most European towns in the middle to late middle ages (in german speaking towns often called "Heilig Geist Spital" (Hospital of the Holy Spirit). Medical professionals (surgeons and physicians operated their side by side) and it is not unlikely that advances took place.
I wonder how I can get "Shit" on my face by getting "shot " with the archer' arrow...
Honestly, in the case of Henry, it's not the fact the surgeon made the tool to get the arrow out (don't take impaled objects from your body please, call your country's emergency services and leave where it is), is the fact they prevented infection with the use of ointments made from plants and honey, not to mention they cleaned the wound everyday and reapply the "antibiotics". I can't find any information if they boiled the water first or if it was from the nearest river (even clear river water contains viruses, bacteria and parasites).
I don't know why I've been reading about ancient healthcare but it appears our ancestors had a good grasp on treatments, just not the knowledge, techniques and technological advances we have today.
They didn't use water to clean Henry's wound. Bradmore ordered the wound to be flushed with wine.
@@Entiox Kevin's video on it does mention the wound care protocol
that guy WAS the country's emergency services.
Honey is a natural antibiotic. That's why Henry's wound stayed sterile
riverwater was a nono i think sense they brewed there own beeer as waterfiltering is a a series bout the tudor era in england somewhere on youtube and that is awsome higly recomend it .
Yes, please do more historical medicine and surgeries.
That bit about Henry V is awesome cause his surgeon smithed out that device and iirc it took like three attempts to forge it to get it precise enough to do the job.
Also, I know about how Obsidian was used in the past but I understand that there are some surgeons today that will take Obsidian over steel/metal surgical knives.
It's crazy cause the truth is that the Barber or Blacksmith were more often than not the local surgeons as a side gig, think about that.
I saw a comparison of skin cut with a steel scalpel vs obsidian. The skin cut with steel looks like it was cut with a chainsaw when viewed through a microscope. Obsidian can be fine enough to cut straight through cells or even separate them without damage, rather than tear them.
I'm so glad I suffered an unstable pubic ramus fracture in 2011 instead of 1511. 0/10, do not recommend, but props to my amazing medical team. I love the videos! Thank you for all you do!
I love how this was posted a day or so after Kevin posted a video about arrow damage, and possible treatment, to the knee.
I used to be an adventurer; until I took an arrow to the knee.
Ive always been amazed at how ancient surgeons discovered the anti bacterial property of honey and used it to clean wounds and tools despite not even knowing what bacteria was
Might not have known about bacteria, but not stupid and could see that wounds treated with it didn't get infected as often!
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Good abstract of the OP 🎉
gotta love that bee omit
Which is the exact reason why I could never be a surgeon, and why you have my utmost respect, as a person and for the service that you provide sir.
Thank you
The history squad is a lovely channel. I'm glad that you shouted them out here. Anybody interested in learning a fairly detailed explanation of various medieval European historical phenomena or devices should absolutely check them out.
A little observation about the animal faeces on arrow tips. AFAIK that was a common practice since ancient times in order to make more lethal wounds with a subsequent infection, that's why (again AFAIK) Toxicology takes its name from the greek for archer: Toxotes
Yup. Archers would drive their arrows into the ground before opening fire so that the heads would pick up all of those fecal and soil-born bacteria, making it likely for anyone who survived a direct hit to die of infection. No vaccines or booster shots for tetanus back then...
Yup, people in the past may not have had the knowledge we have today, but they had the same brains. They didn't know *why* certain things made infection more or less likely, but they could certainly recognise that they did, and they acted upon those observations
Surgeons were professionaly trained. Barbers provided similar services but actual services were trained like craftsmen. A barber was like a modern apothecary or nurse (I struggle to find a proper comparison) but they occasionally travelled around and provided those services. But again, actual surgeons did exist and were quite experienced at their craft. For those who speak German I can suggest the youtube channel Geschichtsfenster which has a good episode on the topic of medieval medicine and surgery.
The field manual of wound management (Feldbuch der Wundartzney - Hans von Gersdorff) describes the practices of a surgeon who served in the Burgundian wars (1470s - late middleages). It's a good primary source.
Kevin Hicks is great! I was lucky enough to see him doing his thing at both Warwick Castle and Sherwood years ago ... added to the fact he was a local bobby down the road too.
FINALLY! One of my favorite doctors on YT reacting to this video.
_Kevin Hicks from 'The History Squad' YT channel_ also has a really good way of skeeving you out utterly, then leaving you faint from blood loss, just out of sympathy for what those poor bastards had to endure. Firstly, the original trauma and then a possibly bigger trauma having it treated......and after all that, you still have to live through the infection that's definitely poisoning your blood.
Kevin's highly enthusiastic use of his numerous dismembered body part props and passionate demonstrations of actual techniques straight out of mediaeval manuscripts, using authentic surgical tools, puts him way out in front of the competition. It's one of the most entertaining channels on this platform. You can see that the guy is genuinely passionate about the subject and that he truly loves making YT vids and teaching others.
I can't recommend that channel highly enough, especially if you are a medical professional and/or just love learning about the daily lives and the blood n guts normal people had to endure throughout history.
My brain initially read the title as "shit in the face with an arrow" 😂
It's pretty mental how people think "shot" is a word that needs censoring. "Shot" is not a word that needs censoring.
@@commiellamaIt's for UA-cam algorithm. It's very finicky.
Man if I was a surgeon I would nerd out on the history of various historical surgical techniques.
You don't have to be a surgeon to do that : )
Hold my autism, lmao
I love that master and commander scene! You know damn well some serious acts of "naval surgey" was done on those ships! Speaking of which what a great idea for a video....cough...the ships docs logs after going into battle......oh my
Sweet! A new video to listen to while I study for my pharmacology exam. Love your channel!
That's a lot of information to take in at once lol!!!!
I have been watching the history squad channel for at least a year it's really good to see that you featured him in your video I really hope to see more videos like this 😊😊
I instantly thought of Days Gone when you started talking about the Liston Knife- then you inserted the game clip.
Nicely done Doc.
that one archer wondering why his kill feed isn't updating: *sleeps at night thinking he's safe*
meanwhile Henry, now with the LMG of religious intent and sitting in the corner of the archer's house: [in thanos's voice] "YOU SHOULD'VE GONE FOR THE CHEST"
I have met not as medieval but current small town senior Pakistany surgeon staying in UK trying to pass conversion to UK/Eu licence (before Brexit). He has been showing me how the same Devalt cordless drill.
same as I use when doing electric repairs, looks when nurse cleaned on his Surgery equipment table.
He was proud that his cousin, brought it to him from Germany, because the hospital one was too week and slow.
It was a powerful drill, which made Devalt the brand it is now, but it wasn't a precision tool. (But that might have been a result of me constantly abusing it, few falls from scaffolding..)
Funny that I have newer found out how his UK/Eu medical licence went, just that he still lives in Pakistan.
Heard this story before. Impressive work removing that arrow. I guess the absence of a fatal infection was luck.
Two words: Hot iron
🍯 honey too
@@samsonsoturian6013theres no way they could have cauterized that deep of wound all the way, and burn wounds also can get badly infected, and it was actually used mainly to stem the bleeding. I think if i remember correctly the doctor sealed, and filled the wound with honey wich is antiseptic substance still just luck the prince survived without modern medicine although the surgeon was amazing for his era
When not having to go to the doctor is an actual incentive to live healthy.
I have actually seen a video and there was a deer in it and it had an arrow through its head. Dont know how it managed to live but it did. The body works in mysterious ways.
In the Punisher Netflix series Frank gets an infection after an arrow hits him in the shoulder, his friend who is a former medic has to basically do surgery on him to get the head of the arrow out. Could we get your take on that scene?
My Great Great Grandfather was in the Civil War and had a metal plate in his head, to repair damage from a shell exploding near him.
I was actually watching an interesting video yesterday in which the host showed how much the ancient world actually knew about medicine. For example, they understood contagions, inflammation and infection. They may not of known exactly what caused it but they realized disease could be contagious, and that infections could lead to death. Tourniquets surprisingly date back to before Alexander the Great. Tragically, a lot of this knowledge was lost with the fall of the Roman Empire. But he read some translated documents from ancient times, and things like washing wounds, using honey on wounds, cutting blood flew off from limbs that were heavily bleeding, among so many other things. Sadly in the times of Greece they didn't know how to stop bleeding if an artery was cut, so even with Tourniquets they couldn't fix people who suffered extreme injuries.
Copper and silver are fascinating for their abilities to prevent microbial growth. While mostly tested under lab conditions only, +95% copper containers were able to defeat some nasty bugs. They would use glass as a control, and then close the lid of each container. Within 6 hours most of the common stuff, e. Coli for one, was dead. But even C. Diff which can live on metal or other common surfaces for more than 6 months, typically require bleach solutions to kill, was dead in 12-18 hours depending on copper concentration. So in the lab, you could safely drink the water after one day, but the glass containers spawned colonies. We still don't fully understand this, and it hasn't been properly tested in the field. The Romans noticed aqueducts wouldn't grow scum if there was copper in the water or construction. Since copper can be consumed fairly safely, I hope to see more research on this. All the steel in hospitals should be switched to copper and its alloys, bronze, brass, and cupronickel depending on need. My opinion.
I think copper is too soft for surgical instruments. It also corrodes easily.
As a construction worker and home re-modeler I've noticed that houses, usually older ones, that have some copper flashing on their roofs don't have mold or mildew on the shingles where the water runs off the flashing while the rest of the roof does.
@@azmc4940 the surgical stuff can be steel because they throw it away after one use. And copper does not corrode easily. Copper rooves will develop a green patina but it takes more than a decade exposed to the elements. If sinks, counter tops, door handles, etc... were copper it would be better. And where copper is too soft, use bronze or a zinc copper alloy. Bronze swords from ancient Greece could remove limbs easily. The kopis could cut most of the bones in the torso with one swing because its designed to work like an axe.
7:41 - Honest question: Why couldn't we have just built a guillotene type device to lop off extremeties?? If it could get through a neck, could it not get through anything else?
History is why I'm immensely thankful for modern medicine.
Honey was important in the old days even for injuries, and Egyptians i heard used molded bread on wounds. Bread mold and Honey had some antibiotic type properties, Salt was used in wounds and can be helpful. Cayenne pepper powder helps blood clot up. Clove Oil has a numbing type quality and can help reduce pain and can help with tooth aches..
These are but just a Few Things.
It would have been good in older days to take troops off the battlefield, that had been injured in some way, to have their wounds looked at an evaluated. Some could've needed boiled water mixed with Honey and some salt to help rinse clean their wounds. Then have cleaned, or boiled and dried wool or cotton to cover those wounds. Keep those troops with select wounds in a separate area from non wounded troops or those with the minor injuries that didnt need medical care, and those more seriously wounded and need more care. So they could get rest, maybe a ration of some alcohol, or boiled but cooled water and a ration of some food and meats so they can get nourishment to keep their strength up to get well. Let them be monitored for a few days up to a week and have their dressings changed out 2-3×'s a day. It would have likely reduced infections or gangrene from setting in, or unnecessary pains and discomfort, it could've reduced prolonged recovery times, it may have reduced death and loss of experienced troops. If they had a slightly deep, long gash just for instance that was being stitched up and they were being treated, they didnt need completely pulled away from where they couldn't still get in the fight if the need required it or to protect the medical, an staff and those worse off.
When I get my Hot Tub Time Machine working, you're coming along !
Needed to get this done with the history squad kevin shows an does some amazing work
Never have I ever been more grateful to live in this time period than I do now.
This was crazy... I literally just finished watching Master and Commander, turn on UA-cam to check my home page, and here you are... *click* OPENEING SCENE I SAW LIKE 1HR AGO. WTF.
Google is always listening.
Could you go over what doctors did with mental health back in the day.
Deemed them possessed by a demon...
Doc, how about a video on Wolverine n the injuries he sustained throughout the movies.
Hit like y'all if you want that covered.
11:40 silver has antimicrobial properties so its possible the risk of infection would be lower if they used mostly silver
Please more about medical from 6th to 16th century. Thank you.
Kevin Hicks is a treasure.
Would you please do a video discussing Craniocervical instability and AAI? This condition is so difficult to navigate.
"...you'd have to push it all the way through, so the chap would probably die."
"And I mean, that's a tad less than ideal."
Oh, is that your professional opinion, Doc? That deadpan delivery made me laugh unreasonably hard at that one. 🤣
This channel is the gift that keeps on giving 😊
John Bradmoore was absolutely genius coming up with that device to remove arrow heads, and considering he came up with it in a relatively short span of time, coupled with his own mix of medicinal honey he was definitely ahead of his time for 15th century medicine.
Arrows are usually taken out the opposite end as it’s easier but for the face. They removed the wooden shaft and created a screw bit and slowly got it out. Rough but doable.
UA-cam forcing you to censor shot in the face just made me read it as shit in the face
That Saturday Morning Cartoons commercial break piece brought back some memories!!
**Reads title:** "Oooooooh! You meant SHOT in the face."
I’d love to see your take on the contents of the Edwin Smith surgical papyrus!
Infection has to be the thing that has killed more people than anything else in history. Back then, even a splinter or a paper cut could be the end of you. It even lead to some grim, but silly tales of people going through war after war, just to be ended by stubbing their toe. One that comes to mind was a warrior that beheaded someone and took the head with him as a trophy. He tied it to his horse and on the ride back the head swung around from being jostled and the teeth put a gash on the warrior's leg. The resulting infection killed him. Truly a karmic moment.
4:05 - Doc, I think we can say it was a certainty.
Liston was a very interesting man and a pioneer in modern medicine, he was so fast at amputation he could cut a leg off in 2.5mins and with a personal best of 28secs. When ether was discovered he was the first to perform a amputation with it.
Will you cover the injuries that would be caused by the HEAT moves from the Yakuza/ Like a Dragon series?
In using the coin to seal to hole in the skull if the coin was made of pure silver how much would this reduce the risk of infection?
Wow! 2 of my fav. UA-camrs at the same time the only thing better would be a live stream
I know YT is a beast, but I can't not interpret this as "Shit in the face." How to avoid pink eye 101? Oh, no this is a different topic.
Litterally this 🤣
As soon as you mentioned Lister, all my history lessons came flooding back "ze germs in ze beer"
Keven's video about the extraction is worth looking at it is a beutafull work of history teaching
Thank you for such a terrific presentation.
Doc...the question really should not be "How to survive" this, but "Are you sure you want to survive" this.
The Bradmore screw was a truly brilliant invention. It allowed Henry V to become king and live to the ripe, old age of 35.
This video was awesome! Henry V went on to be one of the most important rulers in English history, so maybe it simply just wasn't his time? He didn't reign long, but it left a lasting mark on England and the world at the time. This was cool!
This made me think of the scene in Kingdom of Heaven where the main character's father gets shot with an arrow in the right side of his torso, and manages to break the shaft. Two scenes later, one of his companions (a Knight of the Hospitallers) is trying to remove the arrow with a pair of pliers, but it's stuck. He then said, "If the marrow has entered the blood, you'll take a fever and die. Or it'll form a cyst, and you'll live". Is there any truth to this?
How different do you think the world might be if one person went back in time and just taught them to wash their hands? How different do you think things would be if that same person was able to transport with them a huge quantity of antimicrobial hand soap for distribution?
This doctor should have his own action TV series.
Dude I just finished watching a bunch of Kevin's videos, now I get to see you react to the one that I first saw.
an important detail is that the romans (probably others as well but thats outside of my expertise) were aware of silver somehow aiding in wound healing. Silver plates where used to fix bones and cover holes in The skull just like silver blades where used by The more reputable surgeons of the time. As the scene in Rome shows it was a common treatment for brain swelling after blunt force trauma.
Thanks for education doc, i can learn the history of treatmeant n medical of medival time line, i personally recommend doc break down history on china surgeon n medical treatment, it nearly in morden time in my knowlege
As aways, awesome content. Thx doc
I love this! Please react to more older ways of doing medicine!
"Carpenter of the Flesh"
Oh, HELL YEAH!
The UA-cam channel "TheHistorySquad" has some good videos on ancient surgery, including pain medication, infection prevention, wound drainage, battlefield triage, etc..
Yes it's a brilliant channel.
So, whe it all falls apart, I need to horde copper, silver, honey and Everclear?
😮 doc.. why am i feeling phantom pain all over my body (particularly my joints) by viewing this?
The barber seemed to debone your limb more so than amputates your limb. Or does that amount to the same thing?
“Hammer, Saw, Pick and Mash” Is how my gran described the tools used for her hip replacement 😂
cant even imagine seeing a black blob coming at you and all the sudden you have an arrow stuck under you eye. also creating more and more damage because of the weight of the stick that is still hanging out😅😖
Count Dankula has a video entirely on John Liston. Pretty funny and informative.
Been watching this guy because a character I've come up with is a medical superhero whose day job is curator of a musem of medical history. So he likely has one of those gizmos on display, along with a diagram showing how it was used.
is shot literally a bad word now? i thought it meant shiit at first
Errr...didnt Florence Nightingale conduct studies of British, i think, Crimean war veterans within a field hospital the results of which started the slow and steady march towards the understanding of the principles of infection control prior to the use of anesthesia or anything like carbolic acid?
As an aside, theres a closely linked story of a Jamaican lady Mary Seacole that you may very well enjoy reading up on.
Step 1: Don't get shot in the face with an arrow
Step 2: Continue not getting shot in the face with an arrow
Seeing the guy that had a crossbow bolt embedded into his head reminded me of Phineas Gage.
I was prescribed medical grade honey for road rash up both my legs after crashing a motorbike a few years back, healed up amazingly with no scaring on either leg
Any time someone asks me what time I'd go to with a time machine I always say "nowhere before general anesthesia"
History of Medicine is really interesting because there is medicinal development in the Ancient Greek and roman eras, but then a lot of that knowledge is lost during the following decades with the Inquisition andother wars going on that burned a lot of records that had info on all the discoveries. So in the medieval era, there is a re-discovery of certain methods (especially of hygiene). I can only wonder how medival times would've been if we hadn't lost the earlier pieces of knowledge.
Fantastic video
been waiting for this
Please do Reacher Season 2
I feel like war played an important part in medical history, it's crazy that something so violent can bring great advancements. I mean without war we wouldn't have half the technology we do now .
History guy has a video on surgery from Egypt to fall of Rome
If you think this is interesting, go read the unquiet bones by Mel Starr.
it's about a surgeon during the plague years and it's full of medieval surgeries.
It's still crazy to know they would treat cataract by operating on the eye's lense 800 years ago in Arabia.
I really hope I never get sh*t on my face
Didn't Joseph Lister invent Listerine? Or it was named after him?
Of course, it's one of the biggest cultural differences between surgeons in the UK vs much of the rest of the world; barber-surgeons trained as apprentices, rather than academically, and that persists in the habit of surgeons being adressed as "mister"(or equivalent as per the surgeon's preference) rather than "doctor". There are exceptions, of course - mainly those who hold a postgraduate research degree or a professorship at a university. I've had the misfortune to need a fair old whack of surgery, and have therefore had surgeons using all those forms of address (figuratively)up to their elbows in my innards. And since I'm still ticking, they must not have done too much wrong.
But thy would have used a silver coin. silver is antibacterial and probably a really good option for closing up a skull hole.
One for the algu thingy majig.
Both Kevin and Dr Chris in one video? What is this, Christmas?
You know, they could've used a set up similar to a guillotine to amputate limbs rather than different knives. Granted, the guillotine method may cause a little more damage to the bones.
On the coin, silver has antibiotic properties. I don't believe they understood this but silver was the prefered type of coin. Higher recovery rates may have been a factor.