NEW Kuretake Graphite vs Derwent Graphitint Paint Pans
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2022
- Kuretake recently released a new line of colors in their Gansai Tambi watercolor paint line-Graphite! Being that the Derwent Graphitint pencils are some of our favorite colored pencils we also decided to purchase a set of Graphitint paint pans to compare to these new Kuretake graphite paints. Let’s see how they look and perform on 3 different types of paper: watercolor, toned-tan and black. And if I had to choose just one-either the Kuretake or the Derwent, which would I choose?
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I preferred the tan paper, personally. There was just something to beautifully vintage about it!
Tell Steve he should encourage you to try the Steadtler Tinted water graphite pencils. They are a great addition to the graphitint pencils.
I agree to that. They have some interesting additional colours you can add to the Derwent 24 graphitint pencils.
I just watched another artist do a comparison of the Gansai graphite and that artist first wet the paper and then lay down the paint and gently spread it down…what a difference and they are amazing! And the green is deeper and beautiful. They are not opaque unless you lay it down thick as shown here.
I think the key for lighter values is to put the graphite in a mixing pallette with more water. If you want different values of the same color, you can have different amounts of water in each pan.
Yay! Can't wait. Glad you are feeling better.
Good to hear you are all feeling better!
Love it all on the tan paper…thanks for another great video! Glad everyone is doing much better 🤗
Glad your better and it will be nice to see your smiling face. 😊
I am glad you two, AND Rose, are on the road to recovery. Thank you for doing the comparison!
The sponge is there to keep the paints moist until the next painting session. You moisten the sponge and it creates a wet atmosphere inside the pallet and keeps the paints moist.
Glad to see you guys glad rose is doing well and also glad you are doing well ☺️😊
Pleased to see that everyone is on the mend. Thank you so much for your video. I absolutely love the derwent graphitint line, in fact when I started mixed media about 18 months ago that was they were the first products that I bought. If I can find the Kuretake paints where I live then I might give them a try as I loved how deep they were
Another great video you guys. I'm glad you and your family are doing well and keep those videos coming! I plan to buy these products on Amazon Prime day next week.
This is exciting! I love Kuretake paints, I have many of their sets. thank you!
So happy you guys are back and feeling better. Covid is a serious problem, here's to a speedy recovery.
I’m glad you’re all feeling better! ❤❤
WOW! Great spoon trick, Love it. Thanks.
Glad you're all feeling better! There is also an Opal set of Kuretake Gansai Tambi paints. They are super cool and look VERY different on white vs. black paper!
So glad you're feeling better. And woohoo on these new graphite paints. Like Steve, I'm a huge fan of Graphitint pencils (and also have the wonderful paintbox version as well), but you can never have too much graphite stuff. I also love the Derwent watersoluble graphite pencils. I really love both sets of paint on tan paper. Thanks for another great review! 😊
I am interested in these graphitint paints. Your demonstration was really helpful. Thankyou
I have to get *both* of them! I was just barely able to get the Kuretake the other day, Now I"ll go after the Derwent!
Thank you so much for the swatching, and coloring of the two brands! Hugs! Peggy
Great video! Thank you for the comparison and explanations!!!
I'm so glad you guys are doing well since getting covid, I had it at the start of 2001 and it kicked my butt for at least a week and a half.
Thanks for the comparison. I had been toying with the idea of getting the Gansai Tambi set, but I like the colors in the Derwent set much bettee
Fantastic video. I am so removed from my visual arts that there's so many new art supplies to discover! Thank you so much for the inspiration!
Didn't know about the new kuretake - was excited when your video came up (as i have the other sets)....or anything about the Derwent.....this is very interesting. You have helped alot my preference is the derwent as it would be great for out and about days.
Thank you so much, wishing you both better soon.
I love your channel. I love your sweet puppy . Hope she’s doing well💙🦋
Glad you guys are feeling better. I didn't get Omicron until 22 also so managed to avoid 2 years of the more serious covid variations. I have immune system issues also with post-polio and fibro amongst several other inflammatory conditions. I was grateful to have a milder version, but still ran fever for 5 days while my husband was over the fever in only one day. Ah well, good to see you guys back online again with the videos. I appreciate the comparisons. I have the Derwent graphitint pencils and pans already and was curious about the Kuretake, but I'll pass on it after seeing this :)
A really interesting side by side comparison. Thanks.
I just got 5 of the Kueretake pans in my sketchbox. They are similar to the Japanesque dark shadow colors.
I am glad you are feeling better! :)
Unfortunately the start is too late for me (2am in Ireland) but I hope one day I will be able to join the live chat. :)
Brilliant, I just got the 24 pencils now I want the paints!
Is much fun to play with powdered graphite, mixing it with regular watercolour.....make your own .....you create control the ratio for varied effects.
From the small amount of use I’ve given my Japonesque shadow colors( $11 on Amazon) mentioned in previous post, that I think are pretty similar to these Kuratake, I’ve found that they simply will not look very good on their own without a good bit of dilution because they’re just too dark to even show their individual colors to any great effect. They look great on their own if you can dilute them to a light watery color way or use them to “shadow” brighter colors. 👍😉 p.s. On the whole, I prefer the Derwent Graphitint (sp?) too. I have a set of 4 or 6 ? of the pencils and they’re ok, but I think I would prefer the Graphitint pans with all those colors! Thanks!
If you can get the Derwent Graphitint sticks, their may be more shades, open stock, cut a piece and wedge them into half pans.
Happy to see, that you are also on the mend and are doing fairly fine. Hope you get even better soon.
Instead of a spoon you can also try to polish with rounded metal dotting tools. Than you can use this more detailed and precise and you can achieve different textures on your work. A rounded metal end of a knife or so should work similar.
Omg, I need to get these new Graphite paints 💕 I love moody colour palettes
Great video, I see Kuretake also has a set of Opal (colour change iridescent) paints available in the Gansai Tambi range too. I've just ordered a set from Amazon Japan along with the Graphite ones, but Jacksons (UK) also has them available (but not the graphite ones yet).
I'm a big fan of the Derwent Graphitint pencils too, I use them a lot for shadows and adding depth.
Great review of materials! Derwent is just great!
Sketchbox gave us 5 of those 6 Kuretake colors. I hope the pans will be for sale open stock so we can get the 6th one to have the whole set. Excellent video. Very informative.
Thanks guys! Back from the funeral and have covid so ya it's a mess. Glad to hear the fur baby is ok.... prayerfully she can get better. Sorry you also have COVID.
Thanks for your great videos here on YT 👌 I think Kuretake makes their honey-based watercolors and it does indeed have a very different feel to regular watercolors. The paint is more sticky 😁
I love those kuratake and the derwent also have the opal colors Kurake makes
This was very informative. I already have the Derwent Graphitint pencils, and I really like how the Derwent paints look better than the Kuretake. I like how you get 12 colors as well, so, in this case, I would probably go with the Derwent. Both are beautiful sets.
Thank you so much for your product reviews. I was looking at Amazon for graphite goodies and saw that Derwent has XL graphite blocks. They seem to be more similar in size to the Kuretake Graphite than the Derwent Graphitint paint pans. :)
So happy prayers 🙏 answer ed and the family is doing well 🙏❤
I've tried both (thanks Sketchbox) and prefer the Derwent because it's more vibrant when you add layers while Kuretake seems too prone to get dark rather than vivid. However, the Kuretake paints are easier to create contrast, since they can be super dark in a single layer. I think I might use them together in future paintings to complement each other's strengths. Oooh, one more thing. The Kuretake paints will last way longer since you need much less paint to achieve that dark color and I find that it's better to have a palette to water down the colors to achieve the desired color but with the Derwent I apply the wet paint directly to paper since (again) they are vibrant rather then dark when in full strength.
I just bought the Boku-Undo E-Sumi watercolour set. They are blackish… it’s hard to explain! But these are called shadow paints and Japanesque colours! They remind me of the derwent graphitint colours so I’m really excited to try the kuretake paints 🥰
Hope to be here when I get done with dinner, hopefully
Kuretake is my number 1 choice of watercolor.
I'm glad you guys are on the mend, not fun stuff. I love your reviews and comparisons, they are always so helpful when I would like to make a decision. I have the 12 set of Derwent Graphitint pencils and love them. And I have the other Kuretake's. I'm probably going to buy both sets of the granite paints,I have full set syndrome for Kuretake's 😁 But, I just saw that on Amazon they have a set 1 and set 2 of the Graphitint paints.....hmmm 3/4 of a tank of gas or Graphitint's?? 😅
I hope you get better soon Jennifer
Nice to see the comparison. I do not like the effect with the spoon. I love the Graphitint paints. I was disappointed with the darkness of the gansi paints. Fun video, thanks.
On the topic of water soluble art mediums, I thought I'd share some information on pastels that may be worth some experimentation.
Nearly all types of pastels, with the obvious exception of oil pastels, are made up of pigments and water-soluble binders like gum arabic or gum tragacanth. This actually makes them water-soluble, although not to the extent that proper water-soluble pastels (like Neocolor IIs) are, which means that the pigment will rub off if you apply them too thickly. When applied thinly, they make a decent substitute for watercolors for underpaintings and backgrounds in coloring pages.
Pastel pencil marks have been known to activate with water as well. I know for sure the Stabilo CarbOthellos can be used in this way, and other pastel pencil lines may work as well.
Since the pigment-to-binder ratio for PanPastels is so much higher, it's probably not worth trying to activate them with water as they'll rub off too easily.
she is physically beautiful and a beautiful personality!
I have been wanting to see how these compared
I love your videos and reviews, but haven't written anything before. I also love the Derwent "Graphitint" pencil set, fell in love with the muted and saturated colors. But I didn't know that they could be burnished after drying for the sheen of the graphite!
I have a question from your "ASSA' packing / storage clip of 3 weeks ago which I also have. Where did you get the portable folding paintbrush holder? It looked like it has a zipper and inside loops for the brushes. Thank you!
Oh my goodness so Glad you are better. Poor little Rose, my Morkie, Sofee, has been having movement problems also, she'll be 12 in November (Rose looks like her mommy) the wonderful woman we get our dog food from said that she gives her aging dog Cosequin and it helps him immensely. So I got some for Sofee and she is right, she is now running and playing and her back legs have straightened out. I found the best price to be Costco online (they have it in the pharmacy but only for the big dogs.). You give her a 1/2 of one everyday til the first package is gone then a whole one from then on. By the time we were almost done with the 1st package she was doing so much better. Wanting to play fetch and running all over. Sure wish I could find some for my knees. The Boku-Undo E-Sumi Watercolors are absolutely beautiful they will completement each out wonderfully.
The sponge is for cleaning off your water brush between colours
Hi! Glad you all are feeling better. Graphite is a form of carbon. It forms layers, which is why it has replaced the metal lead (Pb) in pencils as the writing medium. As part of its physical properties, it is reflective of light. It is NOT a metal. It is carbon, definitely a nonmetal. Hope this blurb helps.
Pencils never contained the metal lead. The rest is on point.
As much as I love Kuretake, I'm more impressed with the DeWent. That was neat with the spoon. Thank you.
thank you so much for this comparison. i really enjoy the Derwent Graphitints. creates such dusty looking colors. sometimes you don't want bright colors in your work...softer, muted colors would work better. i love watching your videos. learning so much.
Omg Jen & Steve I love that case you have the your pencils in can I ask for a link or where you got it please & thank you 😊
Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Derwent product is ink/graphite based (like the Intense product line) where as the Kuretaki is pigment/graphite based; the Derwent product is not rewet-able once dried. It is permanent, at least that's my understanding. I don't own this product, but I have some of their other paint sets which are ink based and permanent. For those interested, there is also another product that I came across called Liquid Pencil that comes in tubes rather than pans. Thank you for the review.
Have you done a comparison of the Derwent Graphitint pencils (with water) vs the Graphitint paint pan? I have the pencils so not sure if I really need the paint version. Your advice?
If you like Kuretaki/Japanese style paints, you should look up Paul Rubens Gucai watercolor paints. They're a set of 36 incredibly vivid pearlescent colors formulated like Japanese paints, in the same size pans. I'm waiting for my birthday to get them. They're stunning!
The derwent I agree with you about the size I wish the size paint square were a bit bigger I don't like the idea of the sponge and I wish that there was a better paintbrush because I was I like the caran d'ache A soak the water up better They just feel better than using otherwise I'd use a normal brush. Hope art make are really learning too the public for there Opinions and import.
Really like this spoon idea I just wonder whether the graffy pencils the weather the pencils of the graphite would do the spoon do the spoon trick as well
I have used these swatch oaint sample books and find that the paper distorts the quality of the paints…i no longer use them. I re-swatched all my paints/brands onto good watercolor paper and what a difference!
I have not gotten to try either of these sets, but after seeing multiple reviews and videos am suspicious that the kuretake one isnt actually graphite and instead was made to mimic the boku-undo shadow gansai set. Its gansai paints mixed with sumi-e ink, so theyre dark and moody but have a big drying shift and the only sheen is from the paint itself because gasai paints can be shiny when applied thickly
Hey Jen, thank you for your video. Actually Kuretake have 5 sets, there is the new graphite which you did, stary, gem, pearl and opal. The Opal are iridescences, i have the Boku E-Sumi paint set, these are sumi-ink mixed with colour, and derwent graphite blocks, i am ok with graphite inspired paints. But perhaps you might want to try them.
I just got the E-Sumi paints! They arrived yesterday and I’m really excited to try them
You can always use pking clear tape over the derwent swatch they provide that way it wont warp i actually use this on my swatches for my watercolors and grapitint swatch ...hope this could help you as you given us so much help with your reviews..mikelle art mom👩🎨✍🎨🎃
So glad you guys and Rosie are well, keep strong.
Agree. The Derwent seems best. For me and my eyeballs. Lol
Try a stainglass painting with the spoon.
I'm so glad ALL of you are now on the mend and feeling better💜🐾🐾Thank you for this enlightening review. When you recommended using the Derwent Graphitint Pencils for shadows, did you mean to use them dry and unactivated? As they were an exact match to the Graphitint Paint Pans why not just paint in the shadows (and not purchasethe Pencils)? How would buying the Graphitint Pencils be an advantage please. Don't misunderstand me, I think the Derwent Paint colours are totally awesome and I want them now🤣🤣 , I just need to understand the advantages to adding the matching Pencils to my purchase.
Thank you both for this video💜🌹
I understood it as having the option of adding finer detail to the piece, touching up, or what have you. Pieces where you want to add the fine point of a pencil, while remaining in the same palette.
But that's just my guess.
I have the Derwent Graphitints pencils and love them, as well as the Graphitint paint pan. So NOW I have the little Kuretake graphite pan set. I do wish they had more than 6 colors though.
Can you share your experience….I have the pencils, why would I want the paints? Are the results very different? Thanks!
@@juststartingover2735 So, I use the pencils for details and filling in smaller areas. Or even for sketching out leaves, rocks etc., since they’re water soluble they end up blended in nicely with the rest of the areas. I then fill in or blend with the pans. You can sort of think of them as watercolors but you do have to “commit” more as they’re not so easy to lift. I think they compliment each other very well and the shades match.
Yeah u r all better!!
I returned the Kuratake paints and went with the Derwent instead. They were too dark and I couldn’t seem to get them to work in my paintings
Kuretake GANSAI TAMBI Graphite Colors are on Amazon but they are $8 with $19 shipping. Eeek! I'll wait. In the meantime, I'll look at the Derwent Graphite set. I'm interested in the spoon trick.
How do these compare to the boku undo shadow colors?
Love your reviews, i got my color pencils watching ur tests xDDDD saw all ur printables and they are amazing. Ive been looking for a printer for some time already. Can u recommend a "good enough yet not very expensive" printer?? and of course i want it all.... waterresistant and copic resistant xDDDD Laser? inkjet? Im really lost, been reading forums and everyone contradicts eachother...alllll the time. i was going fot a laset printer but some1 said that it wont do a good job on watercolorpaper.... then i crumbled, im just a beginner so... 2 printers its a nono.
If u dont mind, id love some leading. thanks a lot
Where did you get that derwent for $21? They are $36 on amazon
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Derwent has added another set.
I would love to try using the intense shades of the Kuretake graphite, let them dry, then use a light wash of the metallic or gem shades on top!
I can't find your cat its head😂. By the way, I like the Derwent better.
Oh my God, it's a dog😂😂. I saw it moving at the end😅.
Sponge is for you to clean your brush off.
These are two very different products, designed to be used differently.
The kuriaki paints come in even more colors! They act a lot like gouache in that they can be very thick and opaque or you can water them down and use them more like watercolor. They even have a small set that are 6 colors that are mixed with like a black or charcoal grey so they're very dark and moody without the graphite shine.
Personally I prefer the Derwent; the colors are richer. The Kuretake seems kind of blah
Helpful but the inset of you blocks what you are demonstrating and seems really unnecessary.
Lots of talking
You need to stop having yourself in the little screen taking up so much of the video. It was annoying. You can't even see all your swatches.
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