CRO MAGS - Before The Quarrel 1985 DEMO
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- Опубліковано 9 кві 2013
- CRO MAGS BEFORE THE QUARREL
NEW YORK CITY
01. World Peace
02. By Myself
03. Show You No Mercy
04. Malfunction
05. Hard Times
06. Signs of the Times
07. Don't Tread On Me
08. Face The Facts
09. It's The Limit
10. Life Of My Own
11. Survival Of The Streets
12. Everybodys Gonna Die
13. Dub
BAND SITE www.cromags.com/
www.myspace.com/cromagstheband
I had the cassette demo of this that I got from harley right after it came out - I played it so many times the tape wore out. Saw them live almost everytime they played Cb's back then, and while I saw almost every single NYHC band back then, besides the Bad Brains, the Cromags shows were the most intense thing I ever experienced.
The crow mags and agnostic front are the gods of hard core dance hard or die from Philly
What were Reagan Youth and the Nihilistics like?
Amazing Reagan Youth still get my blood boiling all these years later nihilistic the same. I’ve seen a lot of shows in a lot of places overall long many years and there’s three or four years in New York City in the early 80s will never be replicated. CBG bees who is the center of the scene and had an amazing sound system and almost all the guys at work the boards were in vans, so that made a huge difference. For instance, Tommy from prong what is the sound guy for a while. It was such a small club you could smell the band, even if you didn’t want to the band was pretty much on top of each other the stage were so small, and it took a special skill to get from the door to the stage once the show was going, there was no room. It was almost always packed to the gills, the only vans I didn’t see you there were bad brands and flipper bad brands cause I didn’t play there after I started going to shows I think until close to the end and flipper cause I wasn’t willing to pay the seven dollars when it was usually five I totally regret not spending that two bucks
@cary brief I saw the Misfits reunion in Dallas last Halloween. What were the OG fits like? I heard they were not that great live. But other people told me the shows were so violent you stopped watching Glenn, Jerry and Doyle. You just watched zombies and Mad Max types fuck eachother up.
Harley was the Steve Harris of Hardcore, a bass player who's playing WAS SO RAW, it cut through the guitars & drums & like Steve, Harley had that great stage presence, all over the place getting the fans going.
Great comparison. Maiden was one of the tightest bands as far as pure musicianship goes as well.
But Harley was also a dick
I’m pretty sure Harley made sure to get the guitars turned down and the bass turned up so you could hear him
thank you PARRIS thank you HARLEY
Best hardcore album of all times. Harley's bass makes this record what it is.
that is the demo
Paris' riffs are pretty important. And JJ insane vocals. And Mackey's drumming. So..
the 80's were fuckin' awesome
33 years later .. and l still get goosebumps
The most hard core of hardcore.
Remember walking by this dilapidated punk rock party house in San Francisco got to talking to some people in the front and told them I knew someone in there and they let me in, place was an absolute wreck and remember smelling gas in the kitchen stove - miraculously the place didn’t blow up, and got to talking to one bad ass looking tattooed dude and asked what music he liked he starred and said two words Cro-Mags. Had never heard of them but knew I had to check them out. A thing I’ll always remember how the hell I was able to get in that house and make it out was beyond me. John Joseph’s books and PMA have always been such an inspiration and woulda never knew if it wasn’t from that dilapidated party house lol
This is real hardcore. Great album..
every fucking song is perfect.
Hardcore doesn't get any better than this. Raw and tough as nails.
It's actually John Joseph on vocals , i like Harley too but John is fucking legendary
Fuck yea
Top of the NYHC food chain......
first listen in 85 friend had " the tape" man this shit blew me away
Just got done reading Harley's book....fantatstic
This Demo Sounded so good love it.
it has been a decade probably since I have heard this entire record and it still makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. right before they came on stage the funeral music from the Queen from Clockwork Orange would play. A bunch of us would be pacing in the pit waiting for Harley"s slamming Bass and John Bloodcot to come barreling on stage and then everything would erupt. Almost 30 years later hearing this brings it all right back. That time was the Golden Age of NYHC
cary breef yes sir !
I used to own this cassette I bought it at a Cro Mags show for $5. I used play it at Manhattan Beach Brooklyn with my friends and all the Guidos would leave for get about it. this was so much better than the album it is more realistic like it was recorded live.
yeahI had the cassette too - wonder who stole it - wish I still had it. bought it from Harley after a show at CBs I think it was recorded in Richmond when they were on tour. at least tat is what I was told. it was recorded a bit faster best shit listened to it a million times. maybe more
DEMOS ALWAYS BETTER
@@thePsykomanteum Yes! I usually prefer demos for their more realistic sound
Love this version of No Mercy .
Never heard this but it's great. As chano578 says, they were a lot more powerful than the LP sound suggests (not that it is bad anyway)
I saw Cro Mags in Leeds in 1987 and would possibly go as far to say they are the best live band I have seen -and I have seen a lot
Before The Quarrel is the best of Cro Mags. Its so fucking raw. This is hardcore at its purest
Sounds better than than the album
agreed
I remember when I seen these guy,s in ,*85" it was when this came out spring of ,"85" think April!
they still did not have an album out until "86"
+Raymond Tolomei Saw them in 85 at CB's. What an intense, great time it was! NYHC at its peak!!
it firstcame out on a cassette (wish I still had mine) it was recorded at someplace in Richomnd I think. AOQ on vinyl came out a but later.
Thank you.
Still have my cassette...this is before anger was trendy!!! Thanks for posting this...American music is vomit today!!!!
you betcha ! its sucks today
damn if anyone would make a copy of the cassette id glady buy it - it is not avail and the vinyl I have is just not the same.
Cromags website was giving this download away for free not to long ago...check it out in case they still are?!
cary breef ... I own a 10 inch vinyl version of the demo and the sound is incredible. Much better than on this cd reissue. What kinda vinyl do u have?
chris dazsi Exactly. They were ahead of the curve. Everyone wore spandex and really sucked. Love their punk background.
GREAT
This is the Hardest New York Hardcore there is.
I still have my cassette also
Speaking of old days. I saw the SuperNova VHS tape was going for $100 online. Mine grew legs but I hope it at least found a good home.
I have an app called bandsintown. Every band I can think of is in there. It let's me know which bands are on tour. It alerts me when they are coming to my town and it let's you ask them to come to your town. Even if you thought they broke up. Or only in Austin or local.
fuck mine got stolen. never got over it
Great Album from back in the day ! NYHC!!!
Epic
nothing like this shit live in the 80s at CBGBs best fucking times
great demo when the words american hardcore actually ment hardcore,to bad the way shit music went today, but that is why we have records and friends with record players or vice versa,cheers.
''I set myself on this path now, now it's just too late''
Tommy Davies I read this comment immediately before he said it.
fóda pra caralho CRO MAGS
Sweet, was wondering when someone would post this
We used to go hit the matonays @ cbgbs every Sunday got to see them like 7 times I think. Great band
+Tim Kelly Did you see them at CB's on Halloween show in 85'? What an off the hook show that was. True punk and hardcore back then
fuck yeah I was there
That was some crazy times! Between CBGB's, City Gardens in Trenton and some of the other venues in Philly it was non-stop insanity!!
HAVE THIS ON CD.
I played age of quarrel on casette till it warned!
Harley's bass sounds miles better than the lp
Is this the demo with Harley playing all the instruments and John just laying down a vocal track ?
It's a Ma-a-a-a-a-al-function ... just like Captain Cave Man.
Harley Flanagan
How dare you
Not get back with your family
It’s not about you it’s about your fans witch got u we’re u at😎
best nyhc
Cashing in on a demo of a perfect album getting old really sucks
so pissed they took this off Apple Music
It’s 2023 and it’s still off.
It’s on Spotify
Группа хорошая но воспроизведение так себе но послушаю 💥☠💯💥☠
gd hc
I don't like Heavy Metal at all (except for Priest up to early '80's, early Scorpions, early Crüe) I love BÖC & Dharma and groups like Alice Cooper, old AC/DC including "Back in Black", Heart, The Cult... but don't consider them HM. I actually like Cro-Mags and don't understand why they weren't bigger. Short songs & no spandex w/a decidedly punk background they're songs are extremely catchy and this is coming from a Velvet Underground lover. Here's hoping that they're stuff gets heard. I've heard quite a few metal bands and this band is really quite good. G
MY like was the 666 One!!!
a million times better than AOQ
AMEN!
yea ive really grown to like this album more than aoq
Well I think if they played with this energy but had the structure of AOQ, how the songs flow... Like how World Peace goes strait into Show You No Mercy... That really works... AOQ is a cleaner, more resolved and has a defined production... as is often the case when a band practices hard out before going into a studio... But yeah the demo shreds.
Lol lyke wtf woa
great Band...listen in the 80`´´s