Cro Mags (mackie cam) @ ieperfest 2016
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- had the pleasure of filming mackie's entire set when cro mags played ieperfest. the guy is mesmerizing to watch, i hope you enjoy it as much as i did filming it. met him after and he is such a nice guy too..
from Tinman Films
(00:00) world peace
(02:54) show you no mercy
(05:30) malfuction
(09:14) crush the demonic
(13:45) street justice
(15:15) seekers of the truth
(19:55) signs of the times
(22:03) right brigade (bad brains)
(25:12) attitude (bad brains)
(26:48) rise and fall intro (leeway)
(27:53) it's the limit
(29:33) life on my own
(32:30) don't tread on me
(35:30) we gotta know
#cromags #mackiejayson #nyhc
(38:35) hard times
Punk's funkiest drummer. Mackie was really the Mags' secret sauce and a large part of why I don't find Alpha Omega as good as it could be. A lot of punk drummers probably would have just d-beated through the entirety of Age of Quarrel, but Mackie used the technique pretty sparingly, instead opting for a much more laid back backbeat. Dude's got a good ear.
Exactly he puts that swing and groove which is missing , Chuck Biscuits also had this talent, Danzig albums with Chuck are the best albums because of this.
facts!
You are absolutely right sir. Mackie is probably my favorite hardcore drummer. Dude definitely has soul and it comes through in his playing....
He's playing chops Dude...
@@eli_the_crypto_guy Mackie, Chuck Biscuits, and Troy Mowat from 7 Seconds are probably the top 3 drummers in hardcore history. All three have that talent of being able to push the music with their beats and bring a pace and sound that is much more than the typical d-beat-with-occasional-breakdown like the majority of drummers.
Mackie DEFINITELY is blessed with the "GOOD FOOT" as James Brown would have said.....
went to the high school of music and art with mackie. he was a semi-retired and fairly famous graffiti artist (he wrote Mackie/Hyper) and i hung out sometimes in the lunch room. he was an odd but interesting cat---'retired' after getting caught and stopped writing graffiti-but he's inscribed in the who's who of writers (RTW: rolling thunder writers with guys famous artists like REVOLT and ZEPHYR) and you can see some of his pieces if you look around the web. anyway, i think a lot of people here don't get why he's wearing the MTA hat. he had a special relationship with the subway.. and a true original.
I was wondering why he was wearing that - thanks for sharing!
so sick! had no idea he was a writer
I figured he drove a bus
I used TO TAG on the 1 line in 1980 and remember seeing Mackie RTW all over, Futura 2000/ Min1/ Tkid170/ Shock123/ of course Zephyr and Revolt/ and the 145th street tunnels were DANGEROUS AS HELL// THE BALLBUSTERS WOULD BE DOWN IN THERE!!!!!
Zephyr has some RTW stuff on his page.
Just saw these guys open for EYEHATEGOD a couple weeks ago. I've been a Fan of this Band since The Age of Quarrel. John Joseph was incredible. I had no voice the next day from singing along. Mackie is a wonder, simply unbelievable. A Phenomenal Drummer. I Love everyone ever associated with this Band, they made records that changed my Life.
Pretty sure those drums needed a cigarette after this set.
In his late 40’s and still rockin’ the hell out of those drums. Mackie is so good.🔥👌🏻
Simply the best drummer in H/C. Dude could write his ticket playing for anybody. I dig how he sets his kit up Ringo style with the high throne. Plus Ringo's windshield wiper hi-hat playing.
Felix Griffin is just as good.
Crazy that I was a metalhead and bought “Cause for Alarm” and the song “The Eliminator” blew me away. So I dug in deeper to the bands like AF. I found Cro-Mags and bought Age of Quarrel. Wow, the drumming Mackie did on that record hooked me for life. 36 years later, I’m still here!
AOQ is over 30 years old and I still hope to see this band reunite in it's entirety. Wherever... I'll be there to witness it
I loved Mackie's work with Fun Lovin' Criminals after Steve left. The guy can lay chops for any genre
Mack has that Bonham thing going, indescribable, a vibe, very organic. Plays with the meter, I love it. It's like every stroke is suspended in time and you can feel the rise and fall. Seekers of the Truth perfect example
Mackie is the best drummer on the world hardcore scene that I have ever seen, he is a great influence alongside Arman Majidi and Danny Schuler !!!! And this video is the glory, to see all its magic.
Thanks for posting. I worked with him years ago when he was in Urban Blight. Great drummer and great guy.
LOVE IT TINMAN ! Great upload. He is a true artist. Love his cheeky little stick spins!
i am in heaven mackie is one of my best drummers ever .thanks for this mate he is a fantastic drummer!!!!!!!
That was sick! Thanks for filming - sounds killer too!!!!!
I could watch him play all day!!! Him and Reed Mullin from COC!
SuperSkinhead73, funny you mention Reed. When I worked for GOLDENVOICE in the early '80's, when COC would play, I asked Reed if I could sit on the floor beside him while he played their set. It was mind blowing!!!! Reed was an amazing drummer in his own right. Hell of a cool guy too..., very down to earth and seemed really kind. I'm not sure about his more contemporary work since I am unfamiliar. He was a BEAST with early COC though!
@@sigmundhightower1766 Dude, early COC was a beast period. 👍✊
GREAT!! Finally someone did this!!! Mackie cam!!!
Heavy beats, heavy things! And that smile, dude kills.
thanks a lot for sharing this... mackie kicks ass!!
Best drummer in HC ever! He spawned many imitators. No one can match his style though.
Will shepler.
mackie is amazing but of coursr he got it from bad brains drummer earl hudson.
at one point mackie even became the drummer for bad brains during the late 80's.
but there was also bomer from rkl (rich kids on lsd) & dave miranda from ludichrist who were every bit as incredible!
@@sanderpietersen53 Ooooh nobody ever talks about Will Shepler. I saw many AF and Madball shows with that dude on the tubs.
@@andrewbintang4591 Nobody can touch Dave Miranda. His drumming on Powertrip is almost incomprehensible at times.
@@robertbirchfield5655 not incomprehensible for me, but dave and i kinda share the same musical background.
the first time i saw ludichrist live i noticed him playing that trademark ultrafast billy cobham groove from the 70's during the soundcheck and asked him about it when we talked after the gig.
check out the track "one word" from the mahavishnu orchestra (birds of fire album with billy cobham on drums!) to understand where he got that johnnypump groove from.
70's jazzrock fusion from the mahavishu orchestra, eleventh house, return to forever, brecker brothers, billy cobham (spectrum!), tony williams, etc.
also check out magic elf's heavy meddle album for more dave miranda.
he's an incredible drummer indeed!
For me Mackie is still one of the best drummers on earth. So much style and tightness!
MACK is one of my biggest influences Love that dude, if you see him tell him TORRO said wot up!!
Great show of Cro Mags, great to see the energy. Mackie is one of the best drummers I have ever seen live. Thanks for the upload.
Jan, Mackie also fit in well with the Bad Brains when he was drumming for a stint. I got to see them a couple of times live (Quickness tour).
Have u ever seen Hellhammer Play the drums XD
death metal drummers are crap...who can play faster and thats it...who cares about 280 bpm?i sure dont...mackie is a master drummer and a groove master
thats my year sorted out i cant stop watching this amazinggggg
he is just amazing to watch....
yea bro, legendary drummer stevegadd was at on these shows with his jaw dropped to the floor , how hi he sits on that drum throne n all too , wow , crazy drumming , i love em though ive been with him since the mid 80's , thanks > tom and i am a oldschool 80's drummer too !
Thank you SO much for uploading this vid as Mackie is one of my favorite punk / hardcore drummers!
Glad you enjoyed it! I couldn't pass on an opportunity to film him, he's in my top 10 drummers.
Waiting for some "cams" with audio from the board or a very high quality digital field recorder.....
Sigmund Hightower Check hate5six’s video of these guys at This Is Hardcore 2012
So great....thanks for the vid!!!
Mackie showing that you fon't have to slam the snare to get a good crack outta it, tho I like how Abe Cunningham still goes full arm half the time
You rock Mackie! Greetings from 1988......
Mackie's the man!
MACKIE IS A BEAST ON DRUMS!!!! AND AN URBAN ART LEGEND👍👍👍
I keep coming back to watch the outro of "Show You No Mercy" - it's fucking phenomenal.
show you no mercy at the end reminds me a bit of war inside my head by ST
I can't hate Cromags split up is like having divorced parents . love em both , if that makes any sense .
Mackie is definitely the guy who brought the groove into Hardcore and much more than just the backbone of the Cro-Mags.
His style looks totally effortless, almost "elegant & swingin" (if you will) - so much fun to watch. But his stool is oddly high.:-)
Really the best NYHC drummer ever!!!
Awesome amazing my youth TY
Amazing energy!
Wondering how to crush it as as a hardcore drummer? Watch this.
Great drummer. Thanks
22:50 even the guys on the side of the stage are grooving with their air drums!
Absolutely amazing. Thank you so so much Mr Tinman. 🙏🏼
No problem! There wasn't enough mackie on UA-cam. It was a pleasure to watch/film
+tinman films someone needs to interview him. I would love to find more about how he started drumming and his early inspirations. Plus stories about Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, and Fun Lovin' Criminals!!!
check out the podcast "the trap set" not mackie yet, but tons of great interviews with all genres of drummers
There's no Cro-mags without Parris.
ABOUT TIME MACKIE GOT SOME PROPER ATTENTION! finesse
Great drummer and really nice guy.
The man the myth the legend !
MACKIE FOR LIFE ❤❤❤
Great to watch..
That’s a dude who masters his instrument.
He’s a legend!!!
MORE MACKIE CAM! (would be great to get sound from the board too).
Mackie is a killer drummer. To bad the faux mags can't come up with their own music.
Beast mode on!
Who ever stuck their thumbs down doesn't understand the point of the video, or their taste is questionable.. This man is legendary. Even the Bad Brains tunes weren't "covers" for him, depending how you look at it. Other than Bill Stevenson, who else is there?
thee Hippy Slayer from Poison Idea.
excellent.
C'mon Makie, bring back the Icemen.
MACKIE!!! ⭐️🥁🏆🥁⭐️
Right foot like a jackhammer! Awesome
Awesome. He makes me nervous sitting on that drum seat
I hate how the crowd is practically just standing there. It’s the cro mags they deserve more moshing even without Harley.
Zildjian "A" series cymbals...perfect for this type of music for sure!! Love it!!
19s !!
They sound good but I think hell play whatever is available. I dont think its his kit. Maybe the snare and pedal but its probably a rental kit. Ive seen videos here where hes playing cymbals from a rehearsal studio with their logos painted on them. Amazing drummer. The drumming on Bad Brains rise is on a whole other level.
@@sullysullster8217 When we played with them, he played one of the local band's kits.
Any badass drummer can use any kit and it'll sound like them. When you hear Mackie hit the tom in world peace in this show, it sounds like the record. Its amazing how someone has their sound just by the sound when the hit a tom. I'm not sure if he got on the kit beforehand to tune it but it sounded like him.
@@sullysullster8217 yeah I'm sure he's down with any kit so long as it has clear remos on the toms.
cool stuff like it!!
Wow he is so incredible!!! I really would like to sees guys before they call it quits. Also Harley's Cro-mags. Call me daft or stupid, right on. After listening to interviews, I still don't understand why they can't get along ( the original line up ). I mean obviously I wasn't there, but damn, that 1st album was so landmark.
I really enjoyed this. The drummer must have insane energy to go through that set so fast. Does anyone know the last sentence John says? Something about "it's the only one we have"? Just wondering.
Boy's got rhythm
mackie is literally a god
good to see that mackie still kicks ass.... however NO CRO-MAGS WITHOUT HARLEY.
And Parris!!
Indeed! too bad him and JJ have such big egos... It is an insult to all the "supporters" ( lets not call ourselves fans) that have been supporting the band inany way thoughout the years... do things right or quit..
i agree .
and doug
Sick
nice sound I wonder how it would've sounded from the other side
Did anyone else see the guy that entered with a cartwheel at 12:55??
Didn’t he play on the Bad Brains, Quickness album?
who gave this a thumbs down????.... you're fucking crazy.
Dude rips at drums!
And lest not forget his Bad Brain's magic
which cro-mags is this? they need to get paris back
I'm walking and I'm talking
And I'm trying and I'm lying
But I just ain't getting through to them
Mackie is a fucking wizard with drums
Is that Human Furnace playing bass?
That's Paul from Kill Your Idols.
Just watched the whole set, still think he could use more cowbell
...Mackie & Armand (SOIA) NYC the Finest HC DRUMERS EVER! There are good kids, but they are copy/paste...of those 2 kings!...
Will Shepler jim colletti too
@@dimitrisdm6997 Will , man, what a great drummer
He definitely gets the most out of that smallish kit that's for sure!! Plus, his style seems just a tad unorthodox or is it just me, just wondering.
Imagine this played with twin.
How come mackie doesn’t play songs from the other albums ?
they play only 1-2 songs,John and Mackie left after the age and the other songs are harley s so they dont play them
Wow, Mackie sits higher than Mike Portnoy, and I didn't think anyone sat higher than Mike Portnoy. He's practically standing up, haha. Hey, whatever works I say.
Can somebody put a songlist here please
Balazsi Lorand in the description 👍🏻
World Peace
Show No Mercy
Malfunction
Crush the Demoniac
Street Justice
Seekers of the Truth
Signs of the Times
Right Brigade (Bad Brains cover)
Attitude (Bad Brains cover)
Rise and fall intro (Leeway cover)
It’s the Limit
Life of my Own
Don’t Tread on Me
Encore:
We Gotta Know
Hard Times
groowy.................................................
Not the best work, but it's the really honest one. FUCKING LEGEND.
shout out to that MTA hat @4:04
27:14
I prefer so mch the line up with bloodcut Joseph and Mackie than the one with Flanagan
He makes it look easy cos most of it is.
hardcore drumming is not very hard.....mackies style is superb thought and his foot is very fast....we gotta know with single bass is a big pain in the ass.....
12:07 guy in cap I keep seeing ya lol who ever you are you fucking legend! 🤣🤘
15:31 🤣
Ask Mackie why he isn't playing with JJ anymore..... ;) LOL
07:04 sick
Yeah
Without Harley, Paris an Doug this is No Mags
Hari bol)
Haha 15:31
When slenderman goes to a hardcore show
Who in the hell is playing bass during this?
guy frok Kill Your Idols I think
Kind of looks like the bassist from Leeway 🤨
Not Harley Flanagan, that's who.
Paul Delaney from Kill Your Idols/ Black Anvil
it's sad the only play stuff from the first record :(