I think there is confusion in many comments. the 140i, unlike the type r megane rs or I30N, is not ready from stock to go on the track as unlike the others it is more of a GT. but it has some interesting features a 6-cylinder B58 superior in every way to the others even to the n55 of the M2 and many components in common plug and play with the real M2-3-4. So from stock the 140i will go fast on the straight to make it go fast on the track it needs modifications which if done becomes a truly unique hot hatch! at the nurburgring the 140i with the right modifications set incredible times!
Best bang for your buck at that price point. As you said above it is flawed especially in the handling department but for the same price no car has a better engine.
One of the biggest concerns about buying any sports cars like these are the amount seen been ragged at the Nürburgring. Thousands of cars yearly, driven by people who think they can drive. Sadly, as you said, unsuspecting buyers will never know the abuse the cars have suffered.
I had an M140i for 4 years. I took it from a 2 year old standard car, to 455bhp/634nm and upgraded many parts, brakes etc. It was a very good car, superb daily, comfortable when I wanted it to be (adaptive suspension), and as fast as almost anything else on the road when I wanted to. It just never felt 'special', and always seemed to be very good until I wanted to push the limits, and then it never felt like it was happy. The ride was just so bouncy over repetitive bumps, the back end wiggled around constantly, it always felt like it wanted to kill me if I pushed too hard. And it almost did, in traction off mode, sideways on a patch of diesel coming off a roundabout on a dual carriageway, slid which I held, but soon as I got back to grippy road again, it sopat round the other way so quickly I ended up backwards off the road into a tree. I then got an OG M2. It's not quite as fast (although it is just as fast to 60mph as my old M140i due to much better traction), but in EVERY other way, it is a level above. The ride and damping is so settled, the handling, chassis balance, cornering, steering, everything is so much better. I feel like I can drive it at 9/10ths and it never feels like it will kill me. When it does start to let go, it is predictable.
M140s need an LSD to be fitted to get that predictable feeling, and adaptive suspension is great for daily cars but for proper driving at 9/10th+ you want Coilovers
@@TsZen876 Yes I know, I have owned several tuned cars, and worked in the motor trade for many years. But, just fitting a Limited Slip Diff in an M140i does not automatically turn it into an M car. The rear subframe mounting bushes on an M lite are too soft as it's not a dedicated performance car, it's designed for daily comfort, so those all need changing, then the dampers need upgrading, coilovers are a decent option, but the control arms need changing for M3 items to give you a more track style setup at the front, more camber for better steering feel, and even then the front track width is a limiting factor, an M car has a wider track and wider tyres/wheels. I genuinely considered every option for the M140i, but to make it track like an M car, you need to spend a LOT of money, and then you could have just bought an M car anyway. There is a fantastic track m140i in Scotland, he's on UA-cam, called 'Hulk' it has every mod you could possibly do, and it is a weapon. But, it has cost him so much money to get there.
@@DjNikGnashers although I already knew these I appreciate your response I kept my initial comment short because that is enough for most road users, however for track use you’re definitely right, a lot needs to be changed for true 10/10ths performance
@@DjNikGnashers No worries at all, many people will find your response very useful, always good to see people spreading actual knowledge on the internet!
@@jusalii Imagine you buy a clocked back car from a dodgy seller, then the engine goes on you, then you end up in a pile of debt. You wouldnt be so chippy if that happened to you or your family. The guy isnt thinking anyway, hes advertising the blocker on youtube in front of thousands 😂
I loved my stage 2 M140I, shame all the chavs got hold of them now, there the new Ford Fiesta ST lol! Great engines, will look for another b58 but installed in something more grown up like the 340i/440i/540i,X340i, less unobtainable for the youngens now days ;)
Needs a smart awd set up, and suspension + diff upgrade to be more manageable - this in greasy conditions combined with hayfever, wouldnt last very long....
@sv-rh4dz funny enough, we have a full review coming in a few weeks and we explain that it's not the fastest it could be as it does feel unsettled, but it does put a smile on your face. Thank you for watching! - Drew
Belle vidéo 👌 😉. Super 👌. Bien que suis Audi TT 👍 😉. Malgré tout j'ai possédé une BMW Compact 3.16 I, équipée Hartge et j'en ai gardé de très bons souvenirs. 👍🏴 🇫🇷
I was looking to buy one of these last year, and so glad I didn't. The majority I have seen have been driven by idiotic chavs like they were stolen. Such a lovely car too, but sadly the owners leaves a lot to answer for.
@Lewis5S Doesn't fix it entirely. The chassis is still really mediocre compared to any hot hatch out of the box. Even track spec ones struggle keeping up with many somewhat stock hot hatches
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I think there is confusion in many comments.
the 140i, unlike the type r megane rs or I30N, is not ready from stock to go on the track as unlike the others it is more of a GT.
but it has some interesting features
a 6-cylinder B58 superior in every way to the others even to the n55 of the M2 and many components in common plug and play with the real M2-3-4.
So from stock the 140i will go fast on the straight to make it go fast on the track it needs modifications which if done becomes a truly unique hot hatch! at the nurburgring the 140i with the right modifications set incredible times!
Best bang for your buck at that price point.
As you said above it is flawed especially in the handling department but for the same price no car has a better engine.
Thousands of miles the engine is thrashed that the next owner will never know 🙈
Not the engine necessarily, but already under good conditions the turbo operates at its rev limit at 500bhp output.
One of the biggest concerns about buying any sports cars like these are the amount seen been ragged at the Nürburgring. Thousands of cars yearly, driven by people who think they can drive. Sadly, as you said, unsuspecting buyers will never know the abuse the cars have suffered.
I had an M140i for 4 years.
I took it from a 2 year old standard car, to 455bhp/634nm and upgraded many parts, brakes etc.
It was a very good car, superb daily, comfortable when I wanted it to be (adaptive suspension), and as fast as almost anything else on the road when I wanted to.
It just never felt 'special', and always seemed to be very good until I wanted to push the limits, and then it never felt like it was happy.
The ride was just so bouncy over repetitive bumps, the back end wiggled around constantly, it always felt like it wanted to kill me if I pushed too hard. And it almost did, in traction off mode, sideways on a patch of diesel coming off a roundabout on a dual carriageway, slid which I held, but soon as I got back to grippy road again, it sopat round the other way so quickly I ended up backwards off the road into a tree.
I then got an OG M2. It's not quite as fast (although it is just as fast to 60mph as my old M140i due to much better traction), but in EVERY other way, it is a level above.
The ride and damping is so settled, the handling, chassis balance, cornering, steering, everything is so much better. I feel like I can drive it at 9/10ths and it never feels like it will kill me.
When it does start to let go, it is predictable.
M140s need an LSD to be fitted to get that predictable feeling, and adaptive suspension is great for daily cars but for proper driving at 9/10th+ you want Coilovers
@@TsZen876 Yes I know, I have owned several tuned cars, and worked in the motor trade for many years.
But, just fitting a Limited Slip Diff in an M140i does not automatically turn it into an M car.
The rear subframe mounting bushes on an M lite are too soft as it's not a dedicated performance car, it's designed for daily comfort, so those all need changing, then the dampers need upgrading, coilovers are a decent option, but the control arms need changing for M3 items to give you a more track style setup at the front, more camber for better steering feel, and even then the front track width is a limiting factor, an M car has a wider track and wider tyres/wheels.
I genuinely considered every option for the M140i, but to make it track like an M car, you need to spend a LOT of money, and then you could have just bought an M car anyway.
There is a fantastic track m140i in Scotland, he's on UA-cam, called 'Hulk' it has every mod you could possibly do, and it is a weapon. But, it has cost him so much money to get there.
@@DjNikGnashers although I already knew these I appreciate your response I kept my initial comment short because that is enough for most road users, however for track use you’re definitely right, a lot needs to be changed for true 10/10ths performance
@@TsZen876 Apologies if I came across as trying to educate the educated, thank you for your kind reply.
Peace.
@@DjNikGnashers No worries at all, many people will find your response very useful, always good to see people spreading actual knowledge on the internet!
I’ve reported him to DVLA for the mileage blocker. People like this don’t deserve to drive nice cars.
Keep hating mate. No need to cry if you can’t get on his level
@@jusalii on the level of a mileage blocker? what does that even mean..
@@jusalii Imagine you buy a clocked back car from a dodgy seller, then the engine goes on you, then you end up in a pile of debt. You wouldnt be so chippy if that happened to you or your family. The guy isnt thinking anyway, hes advertising the blocker on youtube in front of thousands 😂
Anyone using a mileage blocker is a complete loser
I loved my stage 2 M140I, shame all the chavs got hold of them now, there the new Ford Fiesta ST lol! Great engines, will look for another b58 but installed in something more grown up like the 340i/440i/540i,X340i, less unobtainable for the youngens now days ;)
Now you've a fiat 500 🤪
@Ru5tY87 Wrong. Bmw 330d. I had the 500 for 3 months last year. 😄
A big smile on your face and at the same time a little poo coming out that's what these cars all about😂😂
@@Yhyujss 😂 that is the best way to describe this car!
- Drew
Needs a smart awd set up, and suspension + diff upgrade to be more manageable - this in greasy conditions combined with hayfever, wouldnt last very long....
I do like a M140i 😈
@@TwistedTattoo.WarShorts thought you might like this dude! I'd still take an E60 👀 lol
- Drew
@@accelerateyoutubeThe E60 is nicer looking 😍👌🏼
the mileage blocker 😂😂
Oh dear, don't buy this if you see it up for sale. 😂 What a fool. All for an M lite.
Stupid guy
Lool I didn’t even see it had to zoom in 😂
How can you tell? I can’t see it
@@WEFLIPANYCAR speedo ain’t moving 😂 means the cars registering 0 miles
How did you manage to turn off the speed gauge?
The only good thing is the engine and gearbox. The suspension is awful and gets unsettled so easily . Its not a drivers car . I don't miss it
@sv-rh4dz funny enough, we have a full review coming in a few weeks and we explain that it's not the fastest it could be as it does feel unsettled, but it does put a smile on your face.
Thank you for watching!
- Drew
You can fix easily!
You can fix easily with lsd and suspension geometry!
We dont care what you like or not!😂
Someone needs to give that thing a right good detail!
1/2 a MPG??????????????????????!!!!
Are you guys able to remap a 70 plate x1 20i? noone seems to be able to do this yet with the ecu's on this model.
Belle vidéo 👌 😉. Super 👌. Bien que suis Audi TT 👍 😉. Malgré tout j'ai possédé une BMW Compact 3.16 I, équipée Hartge et j'en ai gardé de très bons souvenirs. 👍🏴 🇫🇷
2.5 mpg? bro how the hell
THIS TITTLE IS STRAIGHT FROM A JAKE SCHNATTER VIDEO💀
Isit 480 490 or 500bhp lol?
Quality everywhere? From personal experience I'd say there's rattles everywhere! More rattles than all my fords I've had over the years put together!
Stage 2 plus 🤣 you hate the stage lol.
@leechamberlain5706 it made me Twitch everytime I said it 🤦🏻♂️😂
- Drew
@@accelerateyoutube Bless you mate
I was looking to buy one of these last year, and so glad I didn't. The majority I have seen have been driven by idiotic chavs like they were stolen. Such a lovely car too, but sadly the owners leaves a lot to answer for.
that sheep tho
Too fast destroys the drive ability of the M140i
LSD fixes it
@@Thuds593 I imagine these things with more power become a bit of a handful!
- Drew
@@Lewis5S I am very curious to see how they drive with an LSD.
The owner of the featured car has an LSD on his shopping list.
- Drew
@@Thuds593 for me the sweet spot is around 450hp
@Lewis5S Doesn't fix it entirely. The chassis is still really mediocre compared to any hot hatch out of the box. Even track spec ones struggle keeping up with many somewhat stock hot hatches
Death trap.. I had one brand new 2017 in 2017 too much power for chassis. Shame on u bmw
You can fix that easily
@@francescosaia4475 easily? You're spending at least 3k worth of mods to get it to handle like any other stock hot hatch
@@francescosaia4475 gets quite expensive lol