This will sound morbid, but there really isn't such thing as true peace. There will ALWAYS be people who disagree, and in turn, people who take it too far. It sucks, but it's true.
There should be an open world star wars videogame where you start as a youngling and eventually grow older and rank up by completing story missions and objectives.
John Davidson I'm just saying it's not my choice to be a jedi they take as a child. Personally I don't even like their code. So really I probably would've left first chance I got.
"Oh, sorry Padawan, you failed. But you have a new important role to fulfill: Scruffy Nurf Herder ! Now the scruffy Nurfs are the most challenging, the most strong willed beasts, with the most strong odor. So you will use your valuable training while cleaning their stalls and performing animal husbandry. Yes, the knight take years of training Not to Envy your wonderful position, fresh air ! the Great outdoors ! Be your own Boss ! Now, here is your bucket and shovel, you won't be needing this light saber any more. " (takes it back.) "So off you go ! Here is your new assignment: Stalls 900 through 2100 are all yours, you lucky Jedi ! Get to work in the Agro Corps!"
Nah I think they would serve the Sith in other ways like Sith Janitor /Sith lunch ladies /Sith Waterboys for the Sith Football team Sith Bus drivers and so on.
Important to note that many of the 'failed' jedi who ended up joining the exploration core often ended up vanishing, many feeling they were unfairly treated XD Just another failure of the Jedi of the Republic.
TheAveon12 I failed because I don't bayleef in the jedi code like lack of emotion and passion so I became a good bounty hunter and help the jedi and repulblic, I use many weppons including the force and lightsabors
Frank Castle Vader really WAS a threat. A Jedi who fails his trials because he is too weak is probably not much of a threat; he might be eliminated, but would be a low priority. A Jedi who fails because he has a partial attachment to the Dark Side is someone who might be turned.
+christosvoskresye I think Palpatine would see them more as a symbolic threat. If people believed a large number of people (who are technically Jedi) survived his wraith then Palpatine would seem less powerful and someone who could be challenged.
+christosvoskresye I think Palpatine would see them more as a symbolic threat. If people believed a large number of people (who are technically Jedi) survived his wraith then Palpatine would seem less powerful and someone who could be challenged.
I am always amazed at how long the narrator drags out his answer to each question. Sheesh: if you fail to become a Jedi, you go into the "service Corps" and still get to be called a Jedi. The End.
Now that would be a story. An enthusiastic student, becoming semi-obsessed with the ways of the Jedi, to an unhealthy extent which the masters will notice. He obeys every command, recites the principles, helps others, spends nearly every waking minute practicing and hoping for knighthood with flaming desire. Then he fails his trials and there is no second chance. He finds it hard to accept it as some masters consult him to not let his desires turn him to the Dark Side. His assignment to civil service leaves him in a position of agony as he struggles to let go of his craving to become what he imagines to be the ideal - a Jedi Knight. I would watch that. I want to see that. He gets up everyday and works hard, trying to come to terms with his supposed loss. A crime happens nearby and he realizes that he is powerless to stop it but with his lightsaber and completed training he would have been able to intervene. Someone dies. He questions the sense of it all but then realizes his grief is holding him hostage and manages to let go of one thing, then another. He strips off the burden that has been plaguing him for years and eventually leaves the unit having made friends, having helped many, having done heroic deeds and having matured into a wiser man speaking truth to the misguided. Extra cheese would be him then maintaining good relationship with his former trainers and the council and advancing to a higher position within his group. And marriage and kids and a goat. Yadda yadda. For real though, the human struggles of an apprentice are much more interesting than the flappy tongue of a Jar Jar or meaningless saber duels on space stations. I mean, for fuck's sake, Luke was there. That was what made him interesting. He had to calm his head and get one with the force before fucking with Vader. And even then he got his limb cut because dayumn, search yo feelins Lewk!
Dj Skills Exactly that, my good man. I don't know what Rey is supposed to be, except for teenage fap material. She has no point in that story. Just a girl breaking the fourth wall. Star Wars has dumbed down to light saber force CGI shit and it won't change. I will still go to the movies with my friends and then nag about plot holes. Consumerism got me. But character development and proper story are still gripping elements I long for.
Just imagine, an entire corps of "failed Jedis". Like there's no hiding, no retelling history: if you were there, you were a failure. "I wanna save the galaxy" - some kid "Well fuck you, you guard books now." - Yoda God that had to be hard for them...
it was never said why the Jedi failed the trials I could see a potential Jedi being rejected because of a connection to the dark side which could make letting them complete their training too risky.
Seriously! Remember that Anakin, age 9, was initially deemed "too old" by the Council! The Jedi preferred to seize Force-sensitive children when they were too young to make *any* decisions and then brainwash them to accept the life dictated to them by the Order as their *only* option! Just like First Order stormstroopers.
Knowing this ... If given a choice, This kinda makes me want to "purposely" fail the Jedi Trials. The Service Corp seems to have more opportunity - i could have a College Degree (essentially) ... With some SORT of profiency with a Lightsaber and/or Force Abilites ♪( ´▽｀)
I wouldn't even want to do this stuff. Training and manipulation children to give up their lives to be emotionless peace keepers. Yeah, we saw Jedi who weren't like that, but they were wrong and I don't know why they made it such a big deal with Anakin and let everyone else slide. Shit pisses me off.
You sort of have. They can be judged to have passed their trials by the actions they take during their time as a Padowan. Obi-Wan's trial was fighting and 'killing' Maul in 'Phantom Menace' (think it about he, had to put up with Jar Jar, watch his master and friend die and yet didn't give in to fear or anger, but remained cool and saw Maul off) and although she rejected the title of knight, Ahsoka Tano was said to have passed her trials due to the way she handled herself when framed, unfairly kicked out of the order but was able to prove her innocence. She chose to leave instead and was added to the Lost. This was in 'Clone Wars' IIRC. I think Anakin was said to have passed his trial by his actions 'In attack of the clones' (the council don't know that he slaughtered some sand people and bonked Padme). While we saw one trial of Luke's in 'Empire Strikes Back' again Yoda deemed him to have passed his trials by facing Vader and choosing to put his faith in the force rather than join Vader in in the dark side on Cloud City.
Yeah. "I appreciate the assignment council, I'll just clean myself off before I leave." Then the sound of a lightsaber activating in the bathroom can be heard.
You can take the Trials more than once, but if you fail them too many times, it was believed that the Force did not want you to live the life of a Jedi.
VaderVoid I believe that he was not permitted to continue because no master would take him as padawan, not really because he failed any trials. The council instead opted to send him to a farm because he grew too old where Qui Gon had his first adventure with him and took him as an apprentice. I read those books years and years ago, so I could be easily have the part of the trials mixed up, but I know age had a lot to do with it.
I feel like they would have had the option but were sort of treated like an army reservist, they have other skill sets and a job in the order but can be called upon if need be in times of war or turbulence.
Jedi Knights had certain responsibilities as Knights, but if they became grey Jedi (Jedi who don't follow the direct commands of the High Council) they could do anything they wanted.
The Jedi Path book does say that some Knights and Masters are among the Jedi Service Corps, but most of its members are Jedi who failed the Initiate or Knighthood Trials.
In Red Harvest I recall a full blown Jedi who was a gardener in the service corps, mostly because her connection to the plant world was so fricken strong. She could actually talk to them and gauge what they needed.
Jedi who fail are sent into the multi-verse where many then end up training with the power of astral projection enable by The Force, becoming students of the black magic arts. Then become librarians for the Sorcerer Supreme. Whereby and thusly get crushed by Thanos the Titanian mutant-Eternal. Until Superman come along and saves the day.
"Sir/Ma'am, please empty your Robe's pockets and place your Speeder Keys, Change & Lightsaber in the Plastic Bin and wait to pass through the Naboo Laser Barrier while TSU Officer Maul is briefly stuck between them..."
Or the one's who didn't complete their trials can get "JUMPED IN" to the Under cover SITH faction, which is located in the outer core world of "Detroit's" Clandestine SITH order. Which is ran by no other than....DARTH NIGGAZ. Just take Hyperspace Lane 7 Mile and outer drive. Because as long as a failed JEDI can still know how to whup some ASS, That nigga' DARTH NIGGAZ, believes in FUCK A rule of 2. He needs all they help he can get. Folks think HOTH and Mustafar are fucked up...... SHIIIIT , you take Hyperspace lane Of seven Mile and outer drive if you want to...
*Yoda voice* That... is why you fail. XD But seriously I'm right there with you. Want to go raid some ancient outer-rim Temple? I hear those quiet places are where weaksauce Jedi and doddering old farts get sent to keep them out of the way, so it should be easy to crush with the power of resentment and bitterness.
Think on that for a second; would you personally assign people who hadn't made the grade as regular everyday Jedi Knights to be Temple Guards? The people who ensure the security of the Order's headquarters?
I wonder what happened to the members of the Service Corps after Order 66. While it's fine to say that the Service Corps members were still considered Jedi, even Yoda notes that Pride is becoming a failing see too often among young Jedi. Some Jedi Padawans might be dismissive of the Corps during the Clone Wars, and some Corps members might have a low opinion of themselves or the Order for being placed in the Corps. So I wonder if Palpatine might have reached out to some of the disenfranchised and brought them over to the Darkside as Acolytes and Inquisitors, of the Vader just slaughtered them all on sight.
That would make sense actually. A large recruiting pool of partially trained force sensitives would be too valuable to kill if they could easily be converted.
I'm sure that the corps members near any clones during order 66 were probably killed as clones wouldn't be able to differentiate between them and Knights, and the service members probably resisted too.
The reason I wonder is I had an idea for a story where a Service Corp member was taken in by a Jedi Master, but was only given the rank of Lieutenant. The master's Padawan would rebuke the main character and the Clone Troopers that he (the main character) 'was not a Jedi.' So when Order 66 was issued the clones hesitated long enough for the main character to remark, "Well, it's a good thing I'm not a Jedi," which, as the twist would have it, is what save's the main character's life.
Staffing your civil service through child slavery...that's what the Jedi Order was all about. Keeping in mind that Jedi candidates were basically seized from their families as infants and toddlers, and subsequently raised in the paradigm that their servitude was obligatory, and had been decided for them before they were even old enough to speak, much less make life decisions, they would then be put through a series of hazing rituals to decide what their eventual career would be. It's not a huge surprise that the galaxy was easily persuaded that the cult-like Jedi Order of baby snatchers were self-serving traitors to the Republic! They basically wrote the PR that was used against them by Palpatine!
The adventures of a "failed" jedi in the exploration corps would actually be very interesting. It could have a sort of Star Trek/Lost in Space kind of vibe. Sort of like Battlestar Galactica or what what was tried with Stargate Universe. Or perhaps more interesting yet, a _marooned_ "failed" jedi and his exploration team.
Could look at a local role playing group and see if they're running star wars (West End Games or the Saga edition). Why not play as one instead of just watching it?
+Jake Lee this is true. QGJ initially chose nobody after previous failures. OWK and QGJ were brought together through the will of the force... If it's still cannon.
Concerning the comparison: Keep in mind though that those who failed their second trial most likely would have *some* degree of force abilities still though. But I agree: Would make for a good series.
I dont get it; why the hell couldnt they RETAKE any of the trials? Hone your skills a bit more and try again later? The Jedi really are evil if their ranking system says you can only fail once EVER...
You can retake the trails, but once you keep taking it over and over again its pretty evident you weren't gonna pass. Those who end up in the service corps usually are those who were initiates. Padawans who fail usually get it the second or third time if they fail and if usually if they cant pass they would rather leave.
It's very possible initiates would be given several attempts... With a philosophy that if failure on the first attempt would result in death on the battlefield. People forget that these are combative warriors, and failure on the battlefield results in the death of innocents, if not only the death of oneself.
I had a friend who wanted to be a Navy pilot, but his eyesight turned out to be less than required. So, they trained him as an aviation engineer instead. His contribution to the armed forces has FAR eclipsed anything he would have achieved as a 'mere' pilot. So, I think it's wrong to imagine the Service Corps were somehow inferior to other Jedi. It's just, to be a knight, one had to have aptitude in lots of Jedi categories (and might not need to be outstanding in any one of them either). In Service corps, you might have crappy lightsaber and force punch, but be off the charts in healing or foresight or whatever. That individual is better saved for non-combat duties. I don't know that a re-take is the right thing to do there.
RPG Productions Idk, you're making jedi sound out to be like soldiers which they weren't they're taught to use violence as a last resort, even for jedi guardians who are trained warriors. Its not like they only thing they knew was war.
I like how he said the same thing 3 times in a row at 1:21 That was sarcasm btw it was kind of dumb The video was interesting though! Just that little bit annoyed me.
I'm leaving a comment but not for you or the Exploration Core but for the Agricultural Core as they could be stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf herders just like Han.
Well when Obi-wan nearly flunked out of the order he was assigned to the Agricultural Corps (long story short they decided to send him early after he basically beat up another youngling in an unofficial sparring match) so make of that what you will. Also as for the 20 year thing actually the bulk would have been people who failed out of the order when they failed to advance to Padawan which happens if they don't make Padawan by their 13th birthday.
A lifetime of forced servitude. Everything about the Jedi Order turns weird and creepy the more lore is added about it! Couldn't we have had it kept to just wandering ronin-type knights and hermit-like masters communing with the Force...?
+Felix Farside Because no one in real life ever goes to live a life outside of what their parents do in spite of being raised around that their entire life...
instead of saying "the jedi who failed their jedi trails" everytime which is repetitive and a very long phrase, try something shorter and mixing it up like "the rejects" "the failures" etc. it will make your videos sound less like a financial report
Yeah that's the point they can't retake them as far as I know. But a knight/master can decide to take them as their padawan even after they fail. (Same happened with Obi Wan)
This was actually covered in depth in the sourcebooks for the Star Wars D20 game. In addition, there were students who never progressed for the simple reason that no Jedi Knight or Master would take them on as a Padawan. They would then be transferred to various Jedi corps where they would serve in a variety of functions from medical, to ecological, to agricultural. They would not be referred to as Jedi though, that title was restricted to those who actually progressed to Jedi Knight/Counsular or higher rank.
exactly. If that was as important as being a jedi knight, the members of that branch wouldn't be just those who failed the trials but rather those who want to help that way x)
Technically, no. As our world is not made out of generals and soldiers, but also out of teachers, medics, librarians, etc, the Jedi Order functions the same way. Failing your test meant you would not be using a lightsaber, but just something else.
I don't think you've considered it clearly. The Jedi Order is not exactly what I'd call *Good*. - They take you from your home at such a young age where having a parent is a highly crucial thing in your life. - You're immediately set to work by learning *How to Wield a Lightsaber* ( _well you probably learn some morals but as we see in the prequels, they are like 5 year olds with training sabers_ ) - And when / if you progress higher, you're sent out to *Kill* upstarts in the Galaxy. Sure, there are diplomatic solutions but let's face the fact, that's most likely not going to be the case in most situations. This is messed up on all kinds of levels. I think that " _Not passing the trials_ " is probably the superior option and then possibly hightailing it out of there somehow.
Child: I LOVE THE JEDI! Adolescent: The Jedi's pretty cool I guess.. Pre-Teen: Whatever. It's not like I wanted to *pass* anyways.. Teen: YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MOM! I *WANT* TO BE A FRIGGIN SITH!
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They didn't banish it lmao it's still out there in the Legends. Now we have a new opportunity to have an entirely new backstory to the quintessential Jedi Master Obi-Wan. We literally are only getting MORE Star Wars this is a good thing lol
Not if it's the same terrible quality of TFA.... (Terrible in the sense that they literally just remade Episode 4, and hardly added anything new to the galaxy. Even the locales are basically rip-offs of locales in the OT)
TFA wasn't that bad lol if it wasn't a throwback to episode 4 and was different the second they did something you hadn't seen in SW it would have been trash and they "should have kept it like the originals thats where George went wrong"
***** No the problem is that TFA is LITERALLY Episode 4: A New Hope with very minor changes to details. Even Abrams himself said they had no script a week before filming was supposed to start, so they took its script and changed it a tiny bit. I love the fact that the Prequels tried new things and weren't afraid to, they added soo much to the galaxy that I'd rather have another trilogy of them than what Disney has given us. The reason you and other people defend TFA is because you're blinded by its nostalgic appeal. Where George went wrong was not having the actors act, giving us the robotic acting that is seen on screen. Although, honestly, the acting in the OT wasn't great either.
Read the Jedi Apprentice books. It's about a young Obi-wan Kenobi who actually did fail his initiate trials. But when he transferred to the agricultural core, he impressed Qui-gon Jinn who happened to going to the same planet for a different reason. He reluctantly took Obi-wan as his apprentice at the end of the 2nd book. The series consists of 18 books and 2 special editions. The book set is out of print but I happen to own them all. It's about their life leading up to the events of episode 1. I also have the other series Jedi Quest which takes place between episodes 1 and 2 and it's about Obi-wan training Anakin. After Episode 2 there was even another series of books about Boba Fett. I have those too.
What happened to the people that did not want to be in the order at all but were still strong with the force? My impression of the order is almost like forced impressment.
I have a hard time believing that a very promising youngster wouldnt be mind tricked or his/her overprotective/untrusting of jedi parents being mind tricked to send him. The jedi seem to throw mindtricks around like confetti, it really shows a disdain for non-jedi
fangorn23 I have a hard time believing most jedi (read:most) would mind trick a child into a life of serving the order. It was an offer. Plus, 99% of children would jump at the chance to become Jedi. In a galaxy of TRILLIONs upon TRILLIONs of beings, you're one of the only ones able to do what is in your childish mind, space magic, with the chance to join an order of intergalactic knights who wield laser swords and keep the peace. That's practically a child's dream.
fangorn23 Of course, just like parents in the real world as responsible for their children, and what happens to them. Anakin was considered old by the time the Jedi found him, usually younglings are brought to the Jedi at the age of 3 or preferably as infants. A 3 year old child wouldn't have the maturity to understand a decision and probably wouldn't even understand the offer fully.
It took exactly 60 seconds for him to say "Hey, not all the kids who trained to be Jedi could pass the trials to become Jedi, so what happened to them?" And then another 3.5 minutes to say "They were assigned to the jedi service corps."
LOL. I actually JUST finished Yoda: Dark Rendezvous yesterday. That book talks a lot about the agricultural corps and a bit about the service corps. I think the idea of the service corps is really good but the way the Jedi handled it was bad. The fact that they just cart Jedi with no master open to take them off to these corps where they will possibly be wasted or grow to resent the order. Heck Obi-Wan almost spent his whole life in the corps just because there was no immediate master for him. Thank God for Qui-Gon. Scout is another really good case of why carting initiates who are not inherently strong off to the corps can be a waste of talent. Scout because a great Jedi and survived Order 66. Plus unlike the other Jedi she met up with, she actually stayed Jedi rather then joining the mando-sues. Great video btw. I love seeing the inter-workings of the Jedi during the rise of the empire era. Also I heavily suggest people check out Dark rendezvous. It has some pacing issues and some plot threads that get dropped then suddenly resolved 200 pages later but it is still a really good insight into Yoda and Dooku's relationship and shows how emotional Yoda truly is even when he does not show people that side of him.
So the trials were all set up to weed out non-Knights. I didn't hear anything about a "Trial of Healing" of something that if you passed you got a choice of Knight or Medic. That means the Jedi order was primarily focused on producing warriors. They took children, trained them in their ways (aka, brainwashed), and then forced them to stick around doing grunt work if they failed the super warrior program. ...Darth Vader was a hero.
Sadly, those children were already indoctrinated. Brainwashing is hard to break, virtually impossible when done by monsters with force mind powers. To protect future generations the slate had to be wiped clean.
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There was no defined limit as to how many times the trials could be taken, however to many failed attempts could be viewed as defying the will of the Force and result in the Jedi Council barring an initiate/padawan from attempting to retake the trials.
I wouldn't blame anyone for being a bit contrarian/resentful myself. If you're born with even a weak connection to the Force some assholes in robes show up and take you away from home before you can properly speak and indoctrinate you into a life of celibate, monastic service to the government. And then if you fail to meet their unreasonable standards you don't even get to sit at the big table, relegated instead to overseeing farmers who probably know their job a hell of a lot better than you do. For the rest of your life. No wonder Sith exist.
That would depend on should the Council allow a reattempt at the Trials. In an addition to being assigned to the Service Corps upon failure, some failed Padawans could also allow be as part of the Temple staff, retaining the rank of Padawan despite not being a formal apprentice or go by the simple rank of "Jedi."
+MrMortull I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree. Yes the Jedi are those things you mentioned, and yes barring a weak student from progressing to knight does seem cruel. But to call their standards "unreasonable" is a bit of an overstatement, Jedi have extremely difficult jobs and no one wants to leave the fate of entire systems to a being that fails to meet even the basic prerequisites of the Jedi. Failure to properly connect to the Force, poor combat performance, poor leadership, lacking maturity, these are things that get people killed. These are also things that the Jedi instruct prospects in from day one, and it's not like they give the middle finger to weaker initiates. All initiates regardless of potential are given due attention, but some just don't get it and it would irresponsible to place that person in a position of dire consequence. Cont.
Okay, but at the same time it seems like packing them off to somewhere they can't "do any damage". If your whole life has been about training to be some sort of warrior-monk, wouldn't you feel disillusioned to be told actually no, you're not monk material, here's a map and a ship go scout out some more trade routs for our plutocratic overlords?
Jack Carter no, he was force sensitive extremely but he wasn't a Jedi since the Jedi were destroyed at the end of episode three. And rogue one takes place AFTER episode three
Nate Rice he as alive during the clone wars. He was a guard at the temples they had on that planet which would probably lead to him being a Jedi or some sort of Jedi.
This would really make people annoyed,trained from a young age,stolen from your home,raised in a harsh religious environment,made a bloody gardener.I would become a bounty hunter whose specialty was killing Jedi.
Nathaniel White Nitecloud What I meant to say was that She is not a Jedi because she did not complete the trails. Yes its obvious that she is force sensitive... but was she a padawan once
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They face trails, they fail, they get reassigned to a different job in the Jedi order. I just saved you 6 minutes.
He kept repeating himself...
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they got jobs at Walmart.
That's why I don't go to walmart
naw......that is where the sith that failed their trials go.
+Butt More like six feet under.
+Butt
Nope, SITH goes to Mc Donalds
ever notice the Jedi were like dirty hippies. republic had nice clean cool shit.
Jedi Intructor: "Ok, now recite the Jedi Code."
Padawan: "Peace is a lie, there is only passion..."
Jedi Instructor: "Wait... No!"
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This will sound morbid, but there really isn't such thing as true peace. There will ALWAYS be people who disagree, and in turn, people who take it too far. It sucks, but it's true.
You're going straight to the AgriCorps, kid.
"Jedi Job Corps for you, kid!"
There should be an open world star wars videogame where you start as a youngling and eventually grow older and rank up by completing story missions and objectives.
Michael Kinley SWTOR
Michael Kinley knights of the old republic
lmao
Those are open world but not as fun as it should be
ti's called jedi academy, not open world but close enough.
Jedi summer school
See the teachers are taking over
LMFAOO
Underrated comment.
This needs to be the basis of a new Star Wars animated series. The Adventures of Derp Doo Fuss, Jedi Gardener.
a group of gardeners attacked by freaky plants made by one of the newer members, or a new guy dealing with the fact hes a gardener
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+Mona Bhalla baby
Sounds my like idea for a new Avatar series. Avatar: the Failures of Gin, about a sand bender who went on to be the worst Avatar ever.
Avatar titans go?
Man if this happened to me I'd be like Fuck it I'm done and then use my force abilities to become a very lethal mercenary
pritty much i would be pissed they take me from my family then say im a failure and shuffle me into a worthless unfulfilling low honer job
with that kind of personality, you would never have made it to the trials in the first place
John Davidson well when a group takes you from your parents takes your whole life away theres nothing wrong with expecting they take care of you
John Davidson I'm just saying it's not my choice to be a jedi they take as a child. Personally I don't even like their code. So really I probably would've left first chance I got.
+Paul Harrison same here, imagine if we had an organisation of peacekeepers that did in real life; there'd be an uproar and no one would stand for it.
They say that if you comment early enough, Grand Admiral Thrawn will invade your planet and annex it for the empire...
It's true, he does
yay!
yes please for the empire >:)
+Tommy Cahill rip naboo
Why wouldn't he
"What Happened to Jedi Who Failed the Jedi Trials?"
they died
What happened to Palpatine's apprentices who failed the immortality test?
Recon WB order 66! 🤔
Nah that would be the sith.
@@ramarblood7697 if I was training to be a Jedi knight, and got assigned as an ambo, I'd die... On the inside.
"Oh, sorry Padawan, you failed. But you have a new important role to fulfill: Scruffy Nurf Herder ! Now the scruffy Nurfs are the most challenging, the most strong willed beasts, with the most strong odor. So you will use your valuable training while cleaning their stalls and performing animal husbandry.
Yes, the knight take years of training Not to Envy your wonderful position, fresh air ! the Great outdoors ! Be your own Boss !
Now, here is your bucket and shovel, you won't be needing this light saber any more. " (takes it back.)
"So off you go ! Here is your new assignment: Stalls 900 through 2100 are all yours, you lucky Jedi ! Get to work in the Agro Corps!"
Who's here from Tom and Ben
Do you feel you wasted 6 mins of your life as well? 😂
Hey guys I'm getting this weird impression, I think jedi candidates were put to test and not all jedi pass their trials
I'm surprised you didn't mention that obi-wan didn't pass the initiate trails in legends
Yeah, it adds quite a lot to Obi Wan
+Some Pig because they used that battle as a replacement for the trials
+Bob Feet initiate trial is different to the knight trials. but yes fighting and defeating a sith lord was used in place for the knighthood trials
One of my favourite series as a kid, the Jude Watson books. You can never have enough Obi-Wan.
Bob Feet It was Qui-Gon's fallen apprentice wasn't it? And Obi-Wan helped defeat him
They ended up abusing death sticks.
They should have just gone home and re-thought their life
"You want to go home and rethink your life."
"'You don't want to sell me death sticks."'
+SKY JAWS why are you being so sensitive?
Martmane3 Gaming I'm not.
Nice. Now i wanna know what happen to the Sith when they failed their Sith Trails. Oh wait never mind.
Yeah. I'm pretty sure they were killed.
Yeah... lol... no mystery there
Killed/banished
Nah I think they would serve the Sith in other ways like Sith Janitor /Sith lunch ladies /Sith Waterboys for the Sith Football team Sith Bus drivers and so on.
they get killed or run away
>can’t become master
>kills whole Jedi order for not being granted master
>goteem
Important to note that many of the 'failed' jedi who ended up joining the exploration core often ended up vanishing, many feeling they were unfairly treated XD Just another failure of the Jedi of the Republic.
No Expert, they get thrown into the canon as punishment.
Better yet, into SW Rebels
No that's to cruel for a Jedi
+Frank Castle then they make them eat lightsabers
+TheRealEJOGamer better than making them use light sabers as as as.... fucking helicopters
+john Calderon no wonder the inquisitors are useless
I can see a lot of jedi padawans getting angry and joining the sith pre-bane days because of this
hi Pikachu, I think the aura guardians are better because they baleef in emotion and passion, may the aura be with you
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like come on. "You can't be a jedi because we decided so, now go clean the toilets."
TheAveon12 I failed because I don't bayleef in the jedi code like lack of emotion and passion so I became a good bounty hunter and help the jedi and repulblic, I use many weppons including the force and lightsabors
+TheAveon12 Yeah, I imagine the Janitorial Corps was a bit embarrassing.
So, were these Jedi farmers and such also killed as a result of Order 66, or were they considered "mostly harmless"?
Palpatine saw all Force sensitives as threats (even Vader) so he probably killed them.
Frank Castle
Vader really WAS a threat. A Jedi who fails his trials because he is too weak is probably not much of a threat; he might be eliminated, but would be a low priority. A Jedi who fails because he has a partial attachment to the Dark Side is someone who might be turned.
+christosvoskresye I think Palpatine would see them more as a symbolic threat. If people believed a large number of people (who are technically Jedi) survived his wraith then Palpatine would seem less powerful and someone who could be challenged.
+christosvoskresye I think Palpatine would see them more as a symbolic threat. If people believed a large number of people (who are technically Jedi) survived his wraith then Palpatine would seem less powerful and someone who could be challenged.
Frank Castle
That's a fair guess. I wonder, though, if the question has been directly addressed, or if we are left to speculate.
I am always amazed at how long the narrator drags out his answer to each question. Sheesh: if you fail to become a Jedi, you go into the "service Corps" and still get to be called a Jedi. The End.
he kinda said the same thing like 6 times.
Thank you
I agree, its really poor. That combined with the fact that the dude talks slow only make it worse. Probably just trying to meet ad length.
what does an apprentice have to do to become a jedi?
They had to do the trials?
Now that would be a story. An enthusiastic student, becoming semi-obsessed with the ways of the Jedi, to an unhealthy extent which the masters will notice. He obeys every command, recites the principles, helps others, spends nearly every waking minute practicing and hoping for knighthood with flaming desire. Then he fails his trials and there is no second chance. He finds it hard to accept it as some masters consult him to not let his desires turn him to the Dark Side. His assignment to civil service leaves him in a position of agony as he struggles to let go of his craving to become what he imagines to be the ideal - a Jedi Knight.
I would watch that. I want to see that. He gets up everyday and works hard, trying to come to terms with his supposed loss. A crime happens nearby and he realizes that he is powerless to stop it but with his lightsaber and completed training he would have been able to intervene. Someone dies. He questions the sense of it all but then realizes his grief is holding him hostage and manages to let go of one thing, then another. He strips off the burden that has been plaguing him for years and eventually leaves the unit having made friends, having helped many, having done heroic deeds and having matured into a wiser man speaking truth to the misguided.
Extra cheese would be him then maintaining good relationship with his former trainers and the council and advancing to a higher position within his group. And marriage and kids and a goat. Yadda yadda. For real though, the human struggles of an apprentice are much more interesting than the flappy tongue of a Jar Jar or meaningless saber duels on space stations. I mean, for fuck's sake, Luke was there. That was what made him interesting. He had to calm his head and get one with the force before fucking with Vader. And even then he got his limb cut because dayumn, search yo feelins Lewk!
Space goat*
Jamie Williams
Silly me. Must have been a typo. :)
ds9 had an ep that had some of that it was called invasive procedure
LootFragg so you mean great character development and not the piece of shit that rey is, right?
Dj Skills
Exactly that, my good man. I don't know what Rey is supposed to be, except for teenage fap material. She has no point in that story. Just a girl breaking the fourth wall.
Star Wars has dumbed down to light saber force CGI shit and it won't change. I will still go to the movies with my friends and then nag about plot holes. Consumerism got me. But character development and proper story are still gripping elements I long for.
skip to 3:00 to get to the part you came here for
skip to 4:40 for the actual jobs
Thanks
the force is strong with this one
You have past the test, you may join my guard unit, for the Emporor
Bagyo Policarpio s
TLDR : they became librarians / farmers / explorers xD
Truly an honour.
Just imagine, an entire corps of "failed Jedis".
Like there's no hiding, no retelling history: if you were there, you were a failure.
"I wanna save the galaxy" - some kid
"Well fuck you, you guard books now." - Yoda
God that had to be hard for them...
"I hate books!"
"Books more than you know."
"Fuck you well, Books you guard now" - Yoda
Do they get Welfare?
Fuck that, I would go sith or rogue if I didn't make it.
I don't think a failed Initiate or Padawan would have the potential to become a Sith.
+Jerry Mazzola yea you right that's why I said rogue as well, then eventually I'm sure the sith would sense you
it was never said why the Jedi failed the trials I could see a potential Jedi being rejected because of a connection to the dark side which could make letting them complete their training too risky.
+Jerry Mazzola obi-wan failed in legends. He only became a padawan by luck
+SS2LP In his experience there's no such thing as luck
The actual question gets answered at 4:05
CapnxChar thanks
Thank.
Force sensitive child: *exists*
The jedi order: A fine addition to my collection
"Hippity hoppity your kid is now my property."
The First Order uses the Jedi's recruiting methods.
Kidnapping?
+Thunder Sundew they didnt kidnap dumbass
yeah for their soldiers
The Jedi did kidnap kids. One of the more "famous" incidents was the kidnapping of Zeison Sha children while their parents were away at war.
Seriously! Remember that Anakin, age 9, was initially deemed "too old" by the Council! The Jedi preferred to seize Force-sensitive children when they were too young to make *any* decisions and then brainwash them to accept the life dictated to them by the Order as their *only* option! Just like First Order stormstroopers.
Knowing this ... If given a choice, This kinda makes me want to "purposely" fail the Jedi Trials. The Service Corp seems to have more opportunity - i could have a College Degree (essentially) ... With some SORT of profiency with a Lightsaber and/or Force Abilites ♪( ´▽｀)
Although, i think the Council Chooses for you ... And not the other way around (´Д` )
Dude, you really want to risk being a space garderner for all your life?
I wouldn't even want to do this stuff. Training and manipulation children to give up their lives to be emotionless peace keepers. Yeah, we saw Jedi who weren't like that, but they were wrong and I don't know why they made it such a big deal with Anakin and let everyone else slide. Shit pisses me off.
obi wan was gonna be a space miner... that's hard.
I doubt ure a coal miner in real life currently either.
@@Mortablunt I would!!! Alien soil! Cool plants! Grow food!
Well now we know how some jedis becomed siths
I'll start my own Order.
With Blackjack.
And Hookers.
joel Salmi well this is how it goes
i want to see a movie on the jedi trials
Paul Shay I'm going to try and make a short film on it
The closest thing is a couple of episodes in the animated series the clone wars.
its a terrible idea, but then again everyone wants to see a star wars movie on everything
Jedi trials. a star wars story.
You sort of have. They can be judged to have passed their trials by the actions they take during their time as a Padowan. Obi-Wan's trial was fighting and 'killing' Maul in 'Phantom Menace' (think it about he, had to put up with Jar Jar, watch his master and friend die and yet didn't give in to fear or anger, but remained cool and saw Maul off) and although she rejected the title of knight, Ahsoka Tano was said to have passed her trials due to the way she handled herself when framed, unfairly kicked out of the order but was able to prove her innocence. She chose to leave instead and was added to the Lost. This was in 'Clone Wars' IIRC.
I think Anakin was said to have passed his trial by his actions 'In attack of the clones' (the council don't know that he slaughtered some sand people and bonked Padme).
While we saw one trial of Luke's in 'Empire Strikes Back' again Yoda deemed him to have passed his trials by facing Vader and choosing to put his faith in the force rather than join Vader in in the dark side on Cloud City.
How depressing would that be, if instead of becoming a Jedi Knight, you ended up becoming a farmer???
Yeah. "I appreciate the assignment council, I'll just clean myself off before I leave." Then the sound of a lightsaber activating in the bathroom can be heard.
It's not much, but it's honest work.
So they had only one try at each test?? Does that make sense? What if you were having a bad day??
In the life of a jedi knight, there are no second chances. They don't try once. They either succeed or fail.
Do or Do not, there is no try
You can take the Trials more than once, but if you fail them too many times, it was believed that the Force did not want you to live the life of a Jedi.
+Jacob Greenstone obi wan failed his initial trials lol
He re took them
VaderVoid I believe that he was not permitted to continue because no master would take him as padawan, not really because he failed any trials. The council instead opted to send him to a farm because he grew too old where Qui Gon had his first adventure with him and took him as an apprentice. I read those books years and years ago, so I could be easily have the part of the trials mixed up, but I know age had a lot to do with it.
Now... I dunno about you but i'd prefer to join the Sith, no bullshit, just drama.
except that can only be one of each:
either u kill the padawan or u plot with the apprentice to kill the master so he will become ur master.
That's easy, kill the padawan because he can't teach me as much considering he's not a master.
Is that why they keep losing :S
Ashlee Egge-Daborn Exactly
+Ashlee Egge-Daborn The rule of two was adopted because before it, the Sith would always lose due to infighting. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_two
what the heck is Thrawn doing in the video?
Thrawn Jedi confirmed !!! jk
NotQuiteSurprised AtAll lol that's not nice...
GHOST ANGEL 😜
He likes to show off his profile picture
+NotQuiteSurprised AtAll racist.
The Council of Reassignment sounds what happened to graduate students who failed their oral qualifying exams, only not as bad :)
@@y.n.tryone4683 Actually Yoda says Failed You Have, Loser You Are :)
Sorry, this is one of the most long winded padded out explanations I have heard. It reminds me of a bad sales pitch which never gets to the point.
damn you and your jedi mind tricks, i shall subscribe, like and then drop my weapon.
Uh...how about my restraints?
+Troha Halen defuq about it?
*moves hand*
theese aren't the droids you're looking for. move along.
gamiezion Well...they're kinda uncomfortable...plus you don't need me here...so...
Troha Halen
ah right, doh. i shall loosen them
So could a Jedi WILLINGLY be reassigned if they passed their trials, but didn't want to be a knight? Or did they have no choice?
I feel like they would have had the option but were sort of treated like an army reservist, they have other skill sets and a job in the order but can be called upon if need be in times of war or turbulence.
I think every jedi want to be a Jedi Knight first. But I don't see any kind of problem if they wanted to be reassigned.
Jedi Knights had certain responsibilities as Knights, but if they became grey Jedi (Jedi who don't follow the direct commands of the High Council) they could do anything they wanted.
The Jedi Path book does say that some Knights and Masters are among the Jedi Service Corps, but most of its members are Jedi who failed the Initiate or Knighthood Trials.
In Red Harvest I recall a full blown Jedi who was a gardener in the service corps, mostly because her connection to the plant world was so fricken strong. She could actually talk to them and gauge what they needed.
Jedi who fail are sent into the multi-verse where many then end up training with the power of astral projection enable by The Force, becoming students of the black magic arts. Then become librarians for the Sorcerer Supreme. Whereby and thusly get crushed by Thanos the Titanian mutant-Eternal. Until Superman come along and saves the day.
Jon Lanier that was great
Jon Lanier what a ride from the start lol
Jon Lanier Jesus, wtf is going on right here...😂😂👌
so true
"Ah, well I guess I'll take my skills elsewhere. Maybe your competitors have job opening. First flight to Korriban please".
Literally everyone else in the room: ._.
Some become Laser surgeons
The Questionable get out
*Walks out in the jedi council room
*screams outside
"IM GONNA BECOME A LAZER SURGEON!!!
they wield lightscalpel knives
and is also equip laser hook blades
They get a job with the TSA.
"Sir/Ma'am, please empty your Robe's pockets and place your Speeder Keys, Change & Lightsaber in the Plastic Bin and wait to pass through the Naboo Laser Barrier while TSU Officer Maul is briefly stuck between them..."
Clay Ronso sir.....I just needs ti check inside ya aashole
Or the one's who didn't complete their trials can get "JUMPED IN" to the Under cover SITH faction, which is located in the outer core world of "Detroit's" Clandestine SITH order. Which is ran by no other than....DARTH
NIGGAZ. Just take Hyperspace Lane 7 Mile and outer drive. Because as long as a failed JEDI can still know how to whup some ASS, That nigga' DARTH NIGGAZ, believes in FUCK A rule of 2. He needs all they help he can get. Folks think HOTH and Mustafar are fucked up...... SHIIIIT , you take Hyperspace lane Of seven Mile and outer drive if you want to...
with all that to get them in the temple to fail the trials I would've just turned to the dark side
*Yoda voice*
That... is why you fail.
XD
But seriously I'm right there with you. Want to go raid some ancient outer-rim Temple? I hear those quiet places are where weaksauce Jedi and doddering old farts get sent to keep them out of the way, so it should be easy to crush with the power of resentment and bitterness.
I'd recommend Illum. Also here is a small army of Droidikas... you'll need them.
Meh, mainly this is a protest action, I'm expecting to be caught.
If they failed couldn't they be Temple Guards instead?
Think on that for a second; would you personally assign people who hadn't made the grade as regular everyday Jedi Knights to be Temple Guards? The people who ensure the security of the Order's headquarters?
I wonder what happened to the members of the Service Corps after Order 66. While it's fine to say that the Service Corps members were still considered Jedi, even Yoda notes that Pride is becoming a failing see too often among young Jedi. Some Jedi Padawans might be dismissive of the Corps during the Clone Wars, and some Corps members might have a low opinion of themselves or the Order for being placed in the Corps.
So I wonder if Palpatine might have reached out to some of the disenfranchised and brought them over to the Darkside as Acolytes and Inquisitors, of the Vader just slaughtered them all on sight.
That would make sense actually. A large recruiting pool of partially trained force sensitives would be too valuable to kill if they could easily be converted.
I'm sure that the corps members near any clones during order 66 were probably killed as clones wouldn't be able to differentiate between them and Knights, and the service members probably resisted too.
+The West Will Rise Again! That's not what anakin thought…
According to Palpatine, even the strongest-willed were easy to convert to the dark side. Those that didn't were killed.
The reason I wonder is I had an idea for a story where a Service Corp member was taken in by a Jedi Master, but was only given the rank of Lieutenant. The master's Padawan would rebuke the main character and the Clone Troopers that he (the main character) 'was not a Jedi.' So when Order 66 was issued the clones hesitated long enough for the main character to remark, "Well, it's a good thing I'm not a Jedi," which, as the twist would have it, is what save's the main character's life.
Staffing your civil service through child slavery...that's what the Jedi Order was all about. Keeping in mind that Jedi candidates were basically seized from their families as infants and toddlers, and subsequently raised in the paradigm that their servitude was obligatory, and had been decided for them before they were even old enough to speak, much less make life decisions, they would then be put through a series of hazing rituals to decide what their eventual career would be. It's not a huge surprise that the galaxy was easily persuaded that the cult-like Jedi Order of baby snatchers were self-serving traitors to the Republic! They basically wrote the PR that was used against them by Palpatine!
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The adventures of a "failed" jedi in the exploration corps would actually be very interesting. It could have a sort of Star Trek/Lost in Space kind of vibe. Sort of like Battlestar Galactica or what what was tried with Stargate Universe. Or perhaps more interesting yet, a _marooned_ "failed" jedi and his exploration team.
There may be some members of the exploration corps survived in the Order 66
If I'm not mistaken Obi Wan was initially a failure of the initiate trials
Could look at a local role playing group and see if they're running star wars (West End Games or the Saga edition).
Why not play as one instead of just watching it?
+Jake Lee this is true. QGJ initially chose nobody after previous failures. OWK and QGJ were brought together through the will of the force... If it's still cannon.
Concerning the comparison: Keep in mind though that those who failed their second trial most likely would have *some* degree of force abilities still though.
But I agree: Would make for a good series.
I dont get it; why the hell couldnt they RETAKE any of the trials? Hone your skills a bit more and try again later? The Jedi really are evil if their ranking system says you can only fail once EVER...
You can retake the trails, but once you keep taking it over and over again its pretty evident you weren't gonna pass. Those who end up in the service corps usually are those who were initiates. Padawans who fail usually get it the second or third time if they fail and if usually if they cant pass they would rather leave.
DarkSpyro707 Oh ^_^
It's very possible initiates would be given several attempts... With a philosophy that if failure on the first attempt would result in death on the battlefield. People forget that these are combative warriors, and failure on the battlefield results in the death of innocents, if not only the death of oneself.
I had a friend who wanted to be a Navy pilot, but his eyesight turned out to be less than required. So, they trained him as an aviation engineer instead. His contribution to the armed forces has FAR eclipsed anything he would have achieved as a 'mere' pilot. So, I think it's wrong to imagine the Service Corps were somehow inferior to other Jedi. It's just, to be a knight, one had to have aptitude in lots of Jedi categories (and might not need to be outstanding in any one of them either). In Service corps, you might have crappy lightsaber and force punch, but be off the charts in healing or foresight or whatever. That individual is better saved for non-combat duties. I don't know that a re-take is the right thing to do there.
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Idk, you're making jedi sound out to be like soldiers which they weren't they're taught to use violence as a last resort, even for jedi guardians who are trained warriors. Its not like they only thing they knew was war.
four minutes to get to the answer of the question asked in the title...
I like how he said the same thing 3 times in a row at 1:21
That was sarcasm btw it was kind of dumb
The video was interesting though! Just that little bit annoyed me.
I'm leaving a comment but not for you or the Exploration Core but for the Agricultural Core as they could be stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf herders just like Han.
Whos scruffy looking?
+BrickAura chewy is
why is everyone hating on the Nerf herders?
Well when Obi-wan nearly flunked out of the order he was assigned to the Agricultural Corps (long story short they decided to send him early after he basically beat up another youngling in an unofficial sparring match) so make of that what you will.
Also as for the 20 year thing actually the bulk would have been people who failed out of the order when they failed to advance to Padawan which happens if they don't make Padawan by their 13th birthday.
A lifetime of forced servitude.
Everything about the Jedi Order turns weird and creepy the more lore is added about it! Couldn't we have had it kept to just wandering ronin-type knights and hermit-like masters communing with the Force...?
there was also the opportunity for someone to leave the order willingly and live a normal life
Leave the life they've been brought up in since before they could remember? Would not that not have a cult-like grip on someone?
there have been people that did it in both the EU and in canon, and they held no resentment for the order.
+Felix Farside Because no one in real life ever goes to live a life outside of what their parents do in spite of being raised around that their entire life...
SgtSupaman
Ha! You compare a secretive religious order to someone's parents?
Answer to the title is here: 4:55
Way too much rambling
Justin Waters thank u
Rejected Jedi went to carbage business.
instead of saying "the jedi who failed their jedi trails" everytime which is repetitive and a very long phrase, try something shorter and mixing it up like "the rejects" "the failures" etc. it will make your videos sound less like a financial report
"those who did not pass" like, dont say the same exact thing over and over.
thanks
At least spell TRIALS RIGHT
I'd say "no thanks" to their "reassigment", and just start picking off Jedi one by one, starting with the most untrained ones first.
I mean you have gray jedi and sith. You can choose one of those. Becoming a sith is harder though because "only two there are, no more, no less"
I'm sorry but all this guy does is repeat himself.... This could be a 3 minute video
I left a like for the exploration corp.
The question is...could they study and retake the Jedi's exams? If not...they're easy pickings for the Sith.
Yeah that's the point they can't retake them as far as I know. But a knight/master can decide to take them as their padawan even after they fail. (Same happened with Obi Wan)
This was actually covered in depth in the sourcebooks for the Star Wars D20 game. In addition, there were students who never progressed for the simple reason that no Jedi Knight or Master would take them on as a Padawan. They would then be transferred to various Jedi corps where they would serve in a variety of functions from medical, to ecological, to agricultural. They would not be referred to as Jedi though, that title was restricted to those who actually progressed to Jedi Knight/Counsular or higher rank.
I heard they were eaten so he midiclorians wouldn’t be wasted.
No they weren't
I haven't seen any comments about how this is just like the Brothers Templar crusader knights.
I end up being a jedi farmer
"Oh, of course you're not viewed as a failure!!! You just failed your trials and now will have a much less important job for your whole life . . . "
It might help to add some more pepp in your voice because I literally fell asleep 😂
i'm just saying.. no matter what you say about them being 'equally as important' that would just suck not passing the trials...
exactly. If that was as important as being a jedi knight, the members of that branch wouldn't be just those who failed the trials but rather those who want to help that way x)
awesome story line there.. Kick ass Jedi could be a Knight but actually just want to ensure the republic data files are stored in an efficient manner
Technically, no. As our world is not made out of generals and soldiers, but also out of teachers, medics, librarians, etc, the Jedi Order functions the same way. Failing your test meant you would not be using a lightsaber, but just something else.
I don't think you've considered it clearly.
The Jedi Order is not exactly what I'd call *Good*.
- They take you from your home at such a young age where having a parent is a highly crucial thing in your life.
- You're immediately set to work by learning *How to Wield a Lightsaber* ( _well you probably learn some morals but as we see in the prequels, they are like 5 year olds with training sabers_ )
- And when / if you progress higher, you're sent out to *Kill* upstarts in the Galaxy. Sure, there are diplomatic solutions but let's face the fact, that's most likely not going to be the case in most situations.
This is messed up on all kinds of levels.
I think that " _Not passing the trials_ " is probably the superior option and then possibly hightailing it out of there somehow.
They can't be equal if you need to pass a trial for one and the others come as a result of failing.
they were assigned to the "Loser Core"
BTW, I always skip to the end of your videos because you always take FOREVER to get to the point
Last time I was this early, this wasn't a thing ;)
+Kenny Do woop woop
Logic ploz k.
What Happened to Jedi Who Failed the Jedi Trials? *Answer: They work, well **_"worked"_**, in the cafeteria in the Death Star.*
OMG!! We wanted to know what happens when they fail NOT THE WHOLE SYSTEM
Mr.Boaz la
I'd like to go through a few practice rounds of the Trial by Flesh, just to make sure I get it right. ;-)
They get turned into protein blocks and fed to their comrades so their midichlorians don't go to waste.
So... How are you guys?
Fine
I've been worse.
I'm well. Thanks for asking.
I bashed the fuck out of my toe on my guitar case and it hurts, but good nonetheless.
I feel fine, thanks
*every time admiral thrawn pops up*
what do they become admiral thrawn?
Child: I LOVE THE JEDI!
Adolescent: The Jedi's pretty cool I guess..
Pre-Teen: Whatever. It's not like I wanted to *pass* anyways..
Teen: YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MOM! I *WANT* TO BE A FRIGGIN SITH!
that first scene
if ti goes badly, you wouldnt need an order 66
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angrydragonslayer
You don't need to post a correction comment.
You can simply go back and edit your original comment.
BigRalphSmith not on android youtube :(
angrydragonslayer
So, I'm looking at an image of youtube comments on android (www.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/nexus2cee_youtube-comments-new-layout-1.png) and the same stacked three dots are to the right of your comment. When you click those dots, one of the options that comes up isn't "Edit"?
BigRalphSmith as much as i want to ask why you're loking at jesus and a douche playing polybridge, no, there is not that option for me
Was there a Jedi -job that included the words: "Do you want fries with this order?"
Yeah, these people worked at wookie king
@@blazehunter55 And some worked at McWindu's
Wasn't Obi Wan a failed initiate who worked in the Agricultural Corps before Qui Gon stepped in?
Nope, Disney banished his past.
They didn't banish it lmao
it's still out there in the Legends.
Now we have a new opportunity to have an entirely new backstory to the quintessential Jedi Master Obi-Wan.
We literally are only getting MORE Star Wars this is a good thing lol
Not if it's the same terrible quality of TFA.... (Terrible in the sense that they literally just remade Episode 4, and hardly added anything new to the galaxy. Even the locales are basically rip-offs of locales in the OT)
TFA wasn't that bad lol if it wasn't a throwback to episode 4 and was different the second they did something you hadn't seen in SW it would have been trash and they "should have kept it like the originals thats where George went wrong"
***** No the problem is that TFA is LITERALLY Episode 4: A New Hope with very minor changes to details. Even Abrams himself said they had no script a week before filming was supposed to start, so they took its script and changed it a tiny bit. I love the fact that the Prequels tried new things and weren't afraid to, they added soo much to the galaxy that I'd rather have another trilogy of them than what Disney has given us. The reason you and other people defend TFA is because you're blinded by its nostalgic appeal. Where George went wrong was not having the actors act, giving us the robotic acting that is seen on screen. Although, honestly, the acting in the OT wasn't great either.
This guy stretches out 4-5 sentences of actual lore into 6+ minutes of content by saying the SAME thing 40 different times in 30 different ways hahah.
Read the Jedi Apprentice books. It's about a young Obi-wan Kenobi who actually did fail his initiate trials. But when he transferred to the agricultural core, he impressed Qui-gon Jinn who happened to going to the same planet for a different reason. He reluctantly took Obi-wan as his apprentice at the end of the 2nd book. The series consists of 18 books and 2 special editions. The book set is out of print but I happen to own them all. It's about their life leading up to the events of episode 1. I also have the other series Jedi Quest which takes place between episodes 1 and 2 and it's about Obi-wan training Anakin. After Episode 2 there was even another series of books about Boba Fett. I have those too.
when i need to help reach a word count on my next essay i'll ask thisn guy to help do so
What happened to the people that did not want to be in the order at all but were still strong with the force? My impression of the order is almost like forced impressment.
Then they didn't have to be in the order... They weren't held hostage. Many jedi left the order willingly.
I have a hard time believing that a very promising youngster wouldnt be mind tricked or his/her overprotective/untrusting of jedi parents being mind tricked to send him. The jedi seem to throw mindtricks around like confetti, it really shows a disdain for non-jedi
fangorn23 I have a hard time believing most jedi (read:most) would mind trick a child into a life of serving the order. It was an offer. Plus, 99% of children would jump at the chance to become Jedi. In a galaxy of TRILLIONs upon TRILLIONs of beings, you're one of the only ones able to do what is in your childish mind, space magic, with the chance to join an order of intergalactic knights who wield laser swords and keep the peace. That's practically a child's dream.
Hobo Jenkins but usually the offer isnt made directly to the children. Even Anakin had to be bought from Watto and they asked Anakin's mother first.
fangorn23 Of course, just like parents in the real world as responsible for their children, and what happens to them. Anakin was considered old by the time the Jedi found him, usually younglings are brought to the Jedi at the age of 3 or preferably as infants. A 3 year old child wouldn't have the maturity to understand a decision and probably wouldn't even understand the offer fully.
It took exactly 60 seconds for him to say "Hey, not all the kids who trained to be Jedi could pass the trials to become Jedi, so what happened to them?" And then another 3.5 minutes to say "They were assigned to the jedi service corps."
Screw that I I would just leave to be a bounty hunter or see what the sith is offerings. maybe get paid
so they weren't allowed to undertake the trials more than once??
LOL. I actually JUST finished Yoda: Dark Rendezvous yesterday. That book talks a lot about the agricultural corps and a bit about the service corps. I think the idea of the service corps is really good but the way the Jedi handled it was bad. The fact that they just cart Jedi with no master open to take them off to these corps where they will possibly be wasted or grow to resent the order. Heck Obi-Wan almost spent his whole life in the corps just because there was no immediate master for him. Thank God for Qui-Gon. Scout is another really good case of why carting initiates who are not inherently strong off to the corps can be a waste of talent. Scout because a great Jedi and survived Order 66. Plus unlike the other Jedi she met up with, she actually stayed Jedi rather then joining the mando-sues.
Great video btw. I love seeing the inter-workings of the Jedi during the rise of the empire era. Also I heavily suggest people check out Dark rendezvous. It has some pacing issues and some plot threads that get dropped then suddenly resolved 200 pages later but it is still a really good insight into Yoda and Dooku's relationship and shows how emotional Yoda truly is even when he does not show people that side of him.
well luke was a jedi and he started years to late
skywalkers always break the rules
The Order had been destroyed before he was trained. The order after the fall of Palpatine is different from the pre-Empire order as a result.
george lightheart so did Anakin
So the trials were all set up to weed out non-Knights. I didn't hear anything about a "Trial of Healing" of something that if you passed you got a choice of Knight or Medic. That means the Jedi order was primarily focused on producing warriors. They took children, trained them in their ways (aka, brainwashed), and then forced them to stick around doing grunt work if they failed the super warrior program.
...Darth Vader was a hero.
Dicax by killing all the children
Sadly, those children were already indoctrinated. Brainwashing is hard to break, virtually impossible when done by monsters with force mind powers. To protect future generations the slate had to be wiped clean.
This is the most redundant, long winded expatiation I've ever heard. You got to write your script out and see if it reads well, dude.
Yeah right..the jedi they we're like your in the SERVICE CORP ...HAHA
Take a drink every time he says "jedi".
WarpRulez don't you mean shot haha
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So do Jedi only get one chance to pass the trials
There was no defined limit as to how many times the trials could be taken, however to many failed attempts could be viewed as defying the will of the Force and result in the Jedi Council barring an initiate/padawan from attempting to retake the trials.
I wouldn't blame anyone for being a bit contrarian/resentful myself. If you're born with even a weak connection to the Force some assholes in robes show up and take you away from home before you can properly speak and indoctrinate you into a life of celibate, monastic service to the government. And then if you fail to meet their unreasonable standards you don't even get to sit at the big table, relegated instead to overseeing farmers who probably know their job a hell of a lot better than you do. For the rest of your life.
No wonder Sith exist.
That would depend on should the Council allow a reattempt at the Trials. In an addition to being assigned to the Service Corps upon failure, some failed Padawans could also allow be as part of the Temple staff, retaining the rank of Padawan despite not being a formal apprentice or go by the simple rank of "Jedi."
+MrMortull I understand where you're coming from but I'm not sure I agree. Yes the Jedi are those things you mentioned, and yes barring a weak student from progressing to knight does seem cruel. But to call their standards "unreasonable" is a bit of an overstatement, Jedi have extremely difficult jobs and no one wants to leave the fate of entire systems to a being that fails to meet even the basic prerequisites of the Jedi. Failure to properly connect to the Force, poor combat performance, poor leadership, lacking maturity, these are things that get people killed. These are also things that the Jedi instruct prospects in from day one, and it's not like they give the middle finger to weaker initiates. All initiates regardless of potential are given due attention, but some just don't get it and it would irresponsible to place that person in a position of dire consequence.
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Okay, but at the same time it seems like packing them off to somewhere they can't "do any damage". If your whole life has been about training to be some sort of warrior-monk, wouldn't you feel disillusioned to be told actually no, you're not monk material, here's a map and a ship go scout out some more trade routs for our plutocratic overlords?
id just join the sith or become a bounty hunter.
So are the members of the service core counted as part of the 10000 jedi in the republic or those 10000 are only jedi knights/masters?
I wish you would site your sources from official if not canon material. Did you get this from a game or a book?
So was the blind guy in Rogue One a person who failed the Jedi Trials?
Jack Carter no, he was force sensitive extremely but he wasn't a Jedi since the Jedi were destroyed at the end of episode three. And rogue one takes place AFTER episode three
OK.
Nate Rice he as alive during the clone wars. He was a guard at the temples they had on that planet which would probably lead to him being a Jedi or some sort of Jedi.
you mean a jedi honor guard?
Shadow Audio not like the ones that are at the temple on coruscant. He just guarded the caves and temple that had the kyber crystals.
This would really make people annoyed,trained from a young age,stolen from your home,raised in a harsh religious environment,made a bloody gardener.I would become a bounty hunter whose specialty was killing Jedi.
In other words, General Grievous with two arms?
So happy i found this channel i know what im doing the next couple of days
They're ground into powder and fed to future padawans. Force protein powder y'all.
You're welcome.
I wonder if Maz Kanata from force awakens was one such jedi. She was clearly force sensitive.
Abhishek Srivastava force sensitive does not equal Jedi. There were many force sensitive people not found by the Jedi order.
"I am no Jedi, but I know the force" -Maz Kanata
Nathaniel White Nitecloud What I meant to say was that She is not a Jedi because she did not complete the trails. Yes its obvious that she is force sensitive... but was she a padawan once
Abhishek Srivastava I used to be a Jedi, but then I took a lightsaber to a knee
Chirrut is a force sensitive.