Gaspar Noe expressed his distaste for 'Star Wars' and Marvel's 'Black Panther' at the 2018 Cannes Film Festival. bit.ly/VarietyS... / variety / variety / variety
but lets be frank. It was a shit film The vast majority of avenger films are boring and utterly predictable. They're the food equivalent of a deep fried mars bar. They're filled with fat, sugar and other processed foods, immensely bad for the brain. And Black Panther, the only thing that distinguishes it from the candy like Marvel films is its acknowledgement of the disgusting racism and hatred that black people face every day in the US. Though of course the antongist was ultimately punished, not because he wasn't right but rather your not allowed to use the very same violence that black and first peoples were subjected (the crimes, the rape and pillaging of hundreds of millions of people by white colonialism over the past several hundred years). But hey apparently they're gonna build some more basket ball courts for those inner city kids. That'll solve their problems
There are only past movies that weren't necessarily brainwashing, or movies that talk about such brainwashing and barely exist nowadays if they still do at all and finally but not least there are entertainment... There is a social norm that the only movies you should like are the ones that everyone likes too. Otherwise, everyone dislikes those people who don't like what they are allowed to like, thus involuntarily allowing violence sprees like those from Clockwork Orange or from Irreversible. Now, Scorsese is too much likeable for me.
Marvel, DC Comics, Lucasfilm , Streamig services is for me the main reason why cinema will be totality dead and baried for the 2 years to come. Cinema as we know it and love is dead. Directors now a days make /sell / write movie to sell popcorn, and guaranteed they livelihood for the next year. Cinema is to perturbe to think the main questions in life. If you watch a good movie you learn from it, as most as you experiencied the same things as the character. CINEMA IS DEAD.
@@03PaK yeah ultimately I understand when he’s coming from but when you can’t even appreciate Star Wars a little bit for creatively building on a history of mythology and cranking out something new and bold then you really are just pretentious for the fuck of it.
I know it's better than any Marvel movie but it doesnt change the fact that movie is really boring. You wanna watch a great recent movie, watch Hereditary or It Follows. Or if you don't like horror movies, you should watch Good Time by the Safdie brothers. Anyway you shouldnt watch those Marvel movies, they're bad for your mental health, if you truely aprettiate film, you would never dare watching a cgi fest shot in digital.
Movies came to an end, and the swan song of classic Hollywood magicland was Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Now it's all about cgi that looks like videogames, movies are trying to look like videogames so desperately is fucking ironic, cuz back in the day it was the other way around. This was art, now it's just an industry, and not a magic industry like before, no now it has gone full Skynet Hal9000 mode and movies will be less and less human, there might be a story to tell, maybe great performances but the visual soul will be empty, cold, lacking any sort of texture.
I agree. I'm not usually a fan of mainstream cinema. I just like the Scott Pilgrim comics as well as its movie adaptation by Edgar Wright, and the horror genre too
It's not about how terrible these movies are but how predictable they are. They're well done but they are all the same. Pretty much like the music industry actually.
@@MrK2890 Arrival was made by a an actual director who wanted to make that movie, not because he was hired to. Also that movie cost about 100M less than Black Cougar
Guys guys, I've been scrolling through the comments for about 5 minutes now and I haven't found a single person shitting on Noe. Y'all are just complaining about people who don't even exist 😂😂😂😂
Right?! Jeez i hate this fake intellectuals, always trying to sound smart by being sassy. I mean, big productions have existed since the birth of cinema, so what's wrong about watching and liking them?
And this comes from me, a guy whose one of his favourite directors is Lars von Trier But i love Disney too So watch whatever the fuck you wanna watch and don't judge, peace✌️
@Careful Icarus we complain about people who are complaining about butthurt mcu fanboys in this comment section wich there isn't any, the difference is that the commentors we complain about are indeed in this comment section unlike the ones that complain about others bashing Noe wich are not here, one is justified the other isn't
because these people are THAT insecure, pompous and so desperately wanna feel like the master cinephile they're actually NOT. They all're pathetic, really. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh no somebody had a different opinion?! Grab the pitchforks!!! People need to grow up and realize that movies are are subjective. You are allowed to hate on Gasper Noe’s films just like how he is allowed to hate Black Panther. His dislike for the movie doesn’t make him a racist or a bad guy. It’s his opinion, so move on and continue loving Black Panther as you always have.
panther was very mediocre doesn't change that this guy is extremely up his own ass sniffing his own farts directly from the source but worse of all a terrible filmmaker i fucking sat there and saw entirety of asscreed in 3d, from start to finish. i suffered and was in pain. i don't go around saying i escaped it and that it's terrible without even ever seeing it. he doesn't even know if he dislikes panter, he never saw it. he can't say it's predictable he never saw it
This really isn't surprising or anything, knowing him. Especially appreciating Villeneuve's film out of the 3. I love Gaspar's work, and think he's just bored to death with anything that doesn't try to push boundaries in any way. That's just how he is.
Anyone who knows Noe would know he doesn't go for mainstream, he's a real artist and can smell commercialism. People will still be watching "Irreversible" long after Black Panther and the MCU is forgotten.
I love Gaspar Noe. He’s an amazing filmmaker. He’s one of the few that I still think a lot about the film after watching. The short film Carne, I Stand Alone, Irreversible, Enter the Void, Love, Climax and Lux Eterna were phenomenal and I can’t wait to see Vortex (starring one of my other favorite directors!). That being said I can’t see him sitting down and watching a film like Black Panther or any other big budget effects driven superhero film without getting bored or desperately wanting to change the channel. I don’t care for those movies either, but if you watch Gaspar Noe’s film output it may make more sense why he doesn’t care for those films.
That's funny, as he was saying "action movies, sci fi movies, they bore me" I was thinking "man I wonder if this guy saw Arrival? He would probably like that and/or Blade Runner 2049." And then the one recent movie he calls out as good is Arrival!
losgryfog It was a marvel movie that is required viewing for future marvel installments. It was a big budget black entertainment... meant to get black people in the seats. It was going to be a guaranteed hit.... even if it was the worst movie ever made. It's a sad movie to me, because it exemplifies the inadequacies of African culture, by showing something that is never going to exist in real life Africa, but has existed already in other cultures. It pushed the narrative of blaming other people for lackluster industrial development. There are regions in Africa that are untouched by white colonialism. Those regions are about as primitive as one could imagine. The real wakanda is a straw Hut. This is why the movie is sad. This is why the movie is a cringe Fest.
Brett the fact that blaming "other" people for Africa's current state is what you got from the movie is very telling of the narrative you have subscribed to your whole life. It was a big budget "Hollywood" film meant to line the pockets of already super wealthy fat cats and it did just that. It also put an almost entirely black cast on the screen, something which before those same fat cats claimed would never work and also I suspect part of the reason you and others of your mindset cringed so much. Enjoy.
You know what? Not everyone likes everything y’all like. I’m a huge superhero and Star Wars films fan but he has a point. They’re not for everyone. I just watched Love and I can’t shake that weird feeling in my gut.
@@exiszentriker2952 Absolutely not, but it's taken so seriously by it's fans like it's the Sixtine Chapel of cinema or something. It was the 70's version of The Avengers bullshit we have today, I bet that in 30 years from now on we'll have millions of manchildren talking about how great the Transformers movies were.
I very much side with Gaspar Noe here. I just straight-up don't care too much for the modern Marvel Cinematic Universe at all. I prefer the movies HE makes, as well as other movies along that line.
I like Marvel movies tho but they're not my inspiration and I'm not really obsessed with Marvel movies even though I still watch trailers from Marvel movies. Now I really look up to vintage experimental films, Japanese vintage films, French New Wave films, and more European films from the 1950s-1970s.
@@jmo5755 it's hip hop actually. R&B is more of the stuff like Luther, Mary, Freddie..y'know those guys and gals. Kendrick Lamar's hip hop..or rap, whichever ya wanna call it.
@@Exosphere._ well, R&B existed way before hip hop or rap ever did so, i don't think R&B can be considered as a part of it...neo soul, maybe...but, not R&B. hip hop for me is newer..for the next generation kinda thang... it is a culture now...but, i think i remember when...somehow, it was a term that rap seemingly evolved into...but, i dunno...i don't really pay attention to rap and hip hop, so u maybe right...but, i definitely know R&B's not part of it..that's from even my time...
I like Black Panther, most of the Star Wars films and also Arrival. I recognize they are very different from each other but all are critically good films. I also enjoy well made documentary films. But hey, we all have differing opinions, right?
Then lets say you consume both trash and good movies. Black Panther is overhyped and overrated and the only reason critics rated it that high to avoid backlashes.
Matt Devil Murdock that does not mean it isnt art. i suppose the meaning of art is just as subjective as whether or not the art is any good, but if you consider film an art, Black Panther is a film. you not liking it doesnt take that away.
Matt Devil Murdock why does art have to be unique? the only thing that gives art any sort of value is your personal experience with it. if you dont connect with a piece of art, or if you find it formulaic, then it has no value to you. be content with having things that you like instead of having this elitest mindset that makes you more special then everyone else because youve think that marvel movies are formulaic.
yup. Nice to see someone speak their mind. I thought it was bland and generic, and its political commentary was in direct contradiction with the main characters motivations, making a fool of itself
im all for diversity, and it was an all black cast practically, so that's good, you can get into what other types of demographics it lacks etc etc but that's not the point, the point is that they used the race angle as a marketing tool. Its cynical, because it's different on a superficial level, skin: character's skin is different and the skin the cityscape has is different, but beyond that, the movie is as generic as marvel movies get, and when it tried to shove in some political commentary, it ends up favoring monarchies, which is a form of classism, a form of discrimination based on an arbitrary quality part of the population has, like racism, and it also favors american agents interfering and destabilizing a foreign government when this government threatens to destroy the way of life USA benefits from. So basically they just shoved in a political angle in order to market the movie using it, race etcetc, its all for money. That's, in part, why I think Noe says you can't learn anything from most modern movies, they really have nothing honest to say
I have a lot of white people tell me they like it because it shows that even in the lives there are family skeletons, they see how African Americans are treated in the United Sates and how some white people want to take our rich African history and rewrite it. As was done in the museum scene. If art of any kind doesn't do more than entertain, if it doesn't provoke thoughts to have a conversation then to me it's meaningless.
yeah, i get the colonisation angle the movie tries to play with, but the fact that then it has a white CIA agent sabotaging an african revolution with the help of our protagoinist and overthrowing a legitimate government just invalidates any kind of comment the movie tries to make (legitimate by the movie rules, which make no sense. Killmonger has a right to the throne why? The fact that he beats T'Challa doesn't count as a victory if T'Challa doesn't explicitly say " i yield"? So what if he just dies mid fight because of a blow to the head? There is no king? Also, i'm ignoring that monarchy isn't legitimate to begin with, but anyway. The walking dead girl has a whole scene saying how Killmonger is the rightful king whether they like it or not, and she has to be loyal, but when she really really doesn't like it she just gives no f*cks and decides to betray her king? what a character arc! I'm loyal to the king! well, not this one! The other one! The whole waterfall scenes are pointless if the former loyal family can kill the newly crowned king)
you gotta love the " you don't like black panther? you are a racist!" "but i like..." "racist!" that's a studio using a real oppression to invalidate fair criticism that could hinder their box office performance
Honestly, he makes himself sound like one of those people who go into a movie with preconceptions of how terrible it will be and aren't willing to change their opinion once their mind is already set on hating it. Walking out of a movie because of the "R&B" music seems like a bit of an overreaction, but maybe that's just me.
xviolet953 you don’t have to even try to see Black Panther to know it’s bad. I know it’s a shitty movie just by reading the synopsis. “After the death of his father, T'Challa returns home to the African nation of Wakanda to take his rightful place as king. When a powerful enemy suddenly reappears, T'Challa's mettle as king -- and as Black Panther -- gets tested when he's drawn into a conflict that puts the fate of Wakanda and the entire world at risk. Faced with treachery and danger, the young king must rally his allies and release the full power of Black Panther to defeat his foes and secure the safety of his people.” Lol. Sounds like a movie for 8 years olds.
Have you seen any Noe films? I like Enter the Void, but something tells me you’d walk out of that. Noe doesn’t seem like that at all actually... based on past interviews I’ve watched of his, he seems very open-minded and willing to try things... and you can definitely see that in this films. Watch Irreversible or Enter the Void. Both good films
Love Gaspar Noe and who gives a shit if he hated Black Panther? You know who also doesn't really care for Marvel and comic book movies in general? A good portion of the people who make and star in them. I grew up on comic books and the superhero genre and philosophically have nothing against them, but let's be real here, approximately 75% of why these things get made is because of money and not passion for the story or for the art of it. All filmmaking is a commercial enterprise in one way or another and I'm not saying that there isn't a passion for the story and for the art of filmmaking in those movies, but it is largely about IP and how it can be maximized with toys and video games and clothing, etc. Noe is just being real and he's not making a big deal of it. Who gives a fuck?
Vincent Dawn People get too attached and defensive over superhero fare for no reason. I've been reading comic books on and off since I was 5 which was 30 years ago. I learned to read well and understand narrative structures cause of comic books. I own over 1K DC and Marvel books (mostly DC) dating all the way back to the 80s. With that said I'd take an original film or a documentary over a superhero film anyday. I actually hadn't watched any MCU movie since The Avengers greatly disappointed me back in 2012. So about a month ago I tried keeping an open mind bt giving the last Thor movie a shot cause of the praise and I fast forwarded through it and "watched it" all within 15 min. The sad part is my friend that was there with me and had seen it at the cinema pretty much confirmed that my reading of it all in such a brief time (rogue asgardian warrior lady, Goldblum being overthrowed etc.) was correct. That's how predictable it has all become. You don't even have to engage with the movie to know what happens. In those cases what is the point? There are exceptions every now and then like Deadpool or Wonder Woman where I walked out surprised but for the most part this subgenre is beyond played. Superhero movies are stuck in a creative corner they can't seem to move out of. You can't even expect the same level of imagination and intuitive storytelling you still see in some mainstream published comics these days (Ie: Multiversity) with the movies. It' all safe with as little creative risk as possible. Naturally for a cinephile who is used to following an art form previously hailed for creative and innovative risk taking storytelling like film it's a chore to get jiggy with some shit like that. The only type of comic book adaptations that take those chances are based on niche and outlier type of books like the DC published Road to Perdition or A History of Violence about a decade back. But we don't even see non-superhero comics get optioned for adaptation in film like that anymore. Everybody wants a piece of the moldy superhero pie.
All superhero movies suck. I think the only good one was Watchmen. Cinema wise. But it's about the sort of escapeism. Long week, you go out with a girl or your friends and just go see a movie. For example people gather together and watch Sharknado to laugh at how bad it is because it's more about spending time with people. Do I think comic book movies are as bad? No but it's in that direction where it's about the night itself rather then the movie. Plus I feel like there's a difference between a movie and a film. For example, Transformers is a movie, while Garden State, Call me By Your Name, or The Godfather are films. They either change your mindset or just have an impact on you. But I'm getting side tracked here. I think Gaspar went into Black Panther with the eyes of a director, which if you go to a super hero movie for the cinema of it you will be INCREDIBLY disappointed.
Your first two sentences kind of kill whatever it is you say after them. 1. I don't *hate* superhero movies, I just wish they didn't take up so much air in the marketplace and I don't get upset when other filmmakers slag them. Many of them are very well made and entertaining and some of them (like Nolan's Batman films) are even artful and intellectually engaging. 2. Watchmen is not a good movie. I haven't actively read comics since 2009, but I read Watchmen years before that and Zack Snyder's film is a visual xerox of Alan Moore's rather dense and impressive work but with absolutely *none* of its substance. There are at least two god awful performances from actors playing major characters in that film and virtually every change from the comic to the film harms the overall effectiveness of the adaptation. I saw it in theaters and had a miserable fucking time.
Vincent Dawn ok all Marvel movies suck. And we'll say difference of opinion. Because how you feel about Watchmen is how I feel about Marvel movies. Since I read the comics I'm busy hating it because that's how true it is to the original story. Now I didn't read Watchmen until after the movie. So it didn't affect my movie going experience. So to repeat what I said all of the negative emotions you feel about the Watchmen movies I have for Marvel and DC movies. So I actually agree with you or at least understand where you are coming from.
Vincent Dawn also the Nolan movies don't count. They were incredible. They're the exception of the rule. I'm talking in majority superhero movies tend to be bad.
Ironically that’s the kind of mindset that keeps you from learning. Can’t even be in the same room as something outside your norm? Thats just sad and disappointing to hear after watching his movies frankly
It’s amazing how he ignorantly brushes of entire genres, while his films demand you to be open minded. You’re asking a lot, if you want your audience to sit through a nine minute rape scene, from his film Irreversible. This clip is incredibly ironic
I like Black Panther movie soundtrack. I think this movie have the best soundtrack then all MCU movies. But I saw Arrival (I thought it as entertaining sci fi movie) and it completely blew my mind. So sad it's underrated
MALE WOHF LIFESTYLE & WISDOM No, i didn't see it and, frankly, doesn't really want to. I've seen reviews, and I'm not into this whole leCarre-esque aestethics, especially when it's not Le Carre story. And what do you mean by "your people"? You think I choose movies to watch by the fact, whether they have Russians or not?
I'm not really surprised, if he doesn't usually enjoy movies he certainly wouldn't enjoy Black Panther, it's not a terrible movie but it's definitely nothing special
I personally think Black Panther should be used as a litmus test for whether or not you’ll like action/superhero movies. BP has some surprisingly deep themes about war, colonialism, diaspora, and cultural trauma.
Black Panther was pretty good for what it aimed at. One of the best superhero films imo. They are quite shallow and simple though. If you want something layered and that will make you think stuff you never thought before, not for you at all haha.
As soon as I hear someone say “something isn’t cinema” I instantly assume they have NO idea what they are talking about. “Cinema” is about story telling. Whether bad or good stories, it’s still cinema. You have fantastical cinema mcu, and more grounded cinema, Nomadland. At the end of day it’s all cinema. Just displayed in different creative means and how the director wants to tell the story. So to say a movie telling a story “itsent cinema” is just outright stupid. . Not everything is for everyone, but don’t shit on something just because it’s not for you, respect the art. Because it’s all in the same boat. Just displayed differently.
MCU ain't cinema. It's literal popcorn entrainment and merchandising advertising. Saying that anything in the MCU is cinema is an insult to cinema. There's nothing creative about black panther
Yes and no. Yes, they are all movies, no they do not all have an intent that aims at fundamentally cinematic storytelling. A plot doesn't make cinema, a sense of visual literacy makes cinema, and the biggest problems of the average modern blockbuster is that they are competently made, yet have none of that which distinguishes cinema from other art forms
I was watching this wondering “would he like Denis Villeneuve movies?” then he mentioned liking Arrival. This man and Villeneuve are definitely my two favorite directors
I don't think this guy grasp the concept of just watching movies as a form of entertainment, instead sees other films as a potential source of inspiration or a point of reference. It is liberating to enjoy films for what it is and don't necessarily have to "take" anything from it.
heheh i like how his french interferes with his english when he says "learn" instead of "teach" which is "apprendre" for both cases in french. Also, i feel very much the same when i go to the movies (at a mainstream cinema) it's always disappointing in some way
I used to love going to movies when I was a kid. As an adult I can never seem to recapture the joy movies gave me as a child. That's not to say I don't like movies anymore but they are mostly disappointing at this point.
I may sound “butthurt” when I say this but the fact that he felt the need to say he hated the “r&b music” in Black Panther suggests to me something else because there was no true R&B music - it was a fusion of Hip-Hop and modern African music. But I’ll be reasonable and say that BP just wasn’t for him. It wasn’t made for him. It was made for Black people like myself who wanted to see ourselves represented positively in a mainstream superhero blockbuster. With respect to Mr. Noe, I don’t think the average moviegoer even knows who he is. I’m barely familiar with his work and I study Film. I only know one other person who knows who he is and that’s a cousin of mine who had to watch his movies for class. Do I think Black Panther is a perfect film? No, I do not. But to say the music made you “escape the cinema after 20 minutes” sounds very nit picky to me, especially when I’ve heard the score was one of the best parts of the film. Hell, it even won an Oscar for it. Just my two cents.
I completely agree with you man. You’re TOTALLY right. I don’t understand why people have the need to hate on everything. Specifically Marvel. I love and know pretty well both worlds, comic book movies/pop culture as well as art cinema, as some people like to call it. I really don’t get why people have to diminish the value of a well done product just because it doesn’t align with their taste. If they actually invest the time to study, inform and appreciate the interconective narrative, character development, technology and many other contributions that Marvel movies (i.e.) have brought to the movie industry and zeitgeist, they would understand it’s very interesting and important impact. Of course you’re not obliged to like them but you could acknowledge its importance, influence and value. The good thing about Art is that it doesn’t have “rules”, it’s free. If you dare to set some, someone will certainly come and break them. You will obviously have your personal opinion, but you can’t force others to think the same. And it’s very sad for me (as a fan) seeing so many people hating on something subjectively good (as a fan again) just because it’s mainstream, cause I believe that’s the main reason why now everyone hates on Marvel, cause of the success and popularity, not the actual quality. I often wish that it would’ve stay as the small independent studio it once was (before Disney). I do enjoy Marvel movies and I do enjoy Gaspar Noe’s films. One does not exclude the other. And it applies to the entire industry. You’re a purist if you believe otherwise, it has already happened several times in art history. And that’s ok, but people don’t have to be pretentious 🤷🏻♂️
I love how he says “I escaped the cinema” like he was being held captive with a gun to his head and a knife to his throat. Not gonna lie, with todays cinema, I can’t really blame him.
I don't care if he didn't like the movie, but where was all this R&B in the first 20 minutes at? I mean, if someone says they walked out of Lord of The Rings because they don't like rock music, I'd wonder what fucking movie they were watching.
To be fair black panther wasn't that good, shame he probably heard the buzz and was like, "fine, I'll see what's up". Shame tchalla was better in civil war than in his own movie
Anyone expecting to get anything meaningful out of a comic book movie or that kind of movie should know by know that there’s nothing deep about them, they not meant for that…
Hans Gruber: And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain he wept for there were no more world's to conquer. You can learn from movies just not all the time.
The idea of seeing Gaspar Noe sprint out of a French movie theater playing Black Panther makes me laugh
He was on the premiere of this movie, as Ryan Coogler invited him to the Official premiere.
I like two things about him:
1. He goes to DVD shop
2. His honesty
He must be hated streaming service
You know neither of those things exist
@@patrickbyrne5070 I comment for what I see in the video.
@@suberkinhow lol, that dude always cast different ethnicity on his film
I feel like this guy makes very kind films with lighthearted stories.
he made films? i guess i'm gonna check it out, especially the most popular one
@@bimaknLmao yes, and its probably the greatest french director still alive
You are so right, especially the one that was just dick cumming in the frame (he actually has a festival released film that is like thay)
@@angef7109 He is Argentinian.
Must be a joke. I wouldn't say his films are light hearted, LOL😂. They are worth checking out though. They're challenging.
I love the fact that he said “I escaped from the cinema” as if he was in some torture chamber
And even funnier is that some people had to leave Irreversible midway through because they couldn't take it. Two different kinds of people.
Yeah Black Panther wasn't quite that bad, I found it easy enough to sleep through.
but lets be frank. It was a shit film
The vast majority of avenger films are boring and utterly predictable. They're the food equivalent of a deep fried mars bar. They're filled with fat, sugar and other processed foods, immensely bad for the brain.
And Black Panther, the only thing that distinguishes it from the candy like Marvel films is its acknowledgement of the disgusting racism and hatred that black people face every day in the US. Though of course the antongist was ultimately punished, not because he wasn't right but rather your not allowed to use the very same violence that black and first peoples were subjected (the crimes, the rape and pillaging of hundreds of millions of people by white colonialism over the past several hundred years).
But hey apparently they're gonna build some more basket ball courts for those inner city kids. That'll solve their problems
“Oh no, an opinion”
This is the best comment here haha
"Oh no, an opinion about an opinion"
Thamal Liyanage oh shit may God have mercy on his soul brothers pray for him
How dare he not praise a slow marvel movie
Butt Sucker you do know you can edit comments now.
Looks like Scorsese isn’t the only one who thinks that Marvel movies aren’t cinema.
It it’s purest form it is but it has nothing to offer except entertainment to young people and mainstream public
NEW MARVEL AND STAR WARS ARE NOT CINÉMA... PERIODT THEY JUST WANNA SELL POP CORN AND HARIBO IN THE MOVIE THEATER...
There are only past movies that weren't necessarily brainwashing, or movies that talk about such brainwashing and barely exist nowadays if they still do at all and finally but not least there are entertainment...
There is a social norm that the only movies you should like are the ones that everyone likes too. Otherwise, everyone dislikes those people who don't like what they are allowed to like, thus involuntarily allowing violence sprees like those from Clockwork Orange or from Irreversible. Now, Scorsese is too much likeable for me.
Finally. For fuck's sake
Marvel, DC Comics, Lucasfilm , Streamig services is for me the main reason why cinema will be totality dead and baried for the 2 years to come. Cinema as we know it and love is dead. Directors now a days make /sell / write movie to sell popcorn, and guaranteed they livelihood for the next year. Cinema is to perturbe to think the main questions in life. If you watch a good movie you learn from it, as most as you experiencied the same things as the character. CINEMA IS DEAD.
That dude just doesn't like predictable factory produced movies and you can't blame him for that.
That's not what I really felt about it... the bastard is still to blame to but he's not the only one
Lmao “star wars” was sooo predictable and like other movies.. sure
@@03PaK yeah ultimately I understand when he’s coming from but when you can’t even appreciate Star Wars a little bit for creatively building on a history of mythology and cranking out something new and bold then you really are just pretentious for the fuck of it.
@@03PaK really hope he's talking about the recent ones
@@McMarioG star wars is a direct rip off of dune.
This guy sounds pretty chill and down to earth, Arrival was pretty good
Down to earth
The guy literally trippin like mayor tom
Maybe but his movies are definitelly not chilled at all.
Arrival is overrated imo.
@@mabusestestament Your opinion is wrong
@Zaz5y
That's incorrect, you are wrong 🙂
0% of the comments: Disagreeing with him
100% of the comments: Complaining about others disagreeing.
I don't complain about other apparently realizing the entire advertising brainwashing for such movies.
I think most people are reacting to the like/dislike ratio, which like 1 in 10 people disliked the video.
Best comment😂
Literally, haven’t seen one comment even disagreeing w him. It’s just a circlejerk lol
After he mentioned he liked "The arrival", I love him.
same feeling
I know it's better than any Marvel movie but it doesnt change the fact that movie is really boring. You wanna watch a great recent movie, watch Hereditary or It Follows. Or if you don't like horror movies, you should watch Good Time by the Safdie brothers. Anyway you shouldnt watch those Marvel movies, they're bad for your mental health, if you truely aprettiate film, you would never dare watching a cgi fest shot in digital.
Movies came to an end, and the swan song of classic Hollywood magicland was Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Now it's all about cgi that looks like videogames, movies are trying to look like videogames so desperately is fucking ironic, cuz back in the day it was the other way around. This was art, now it's just an industry, and not a magic industry like before, no now it has gone full Skynet Hal9000 mode and movies will be less and less human, there might be a story to tell, maybe great performances but the visual soul will be empty, cold, lacking any sort of texture.
@@schizofrito have you seen Parasite? Or Fantastic Mr Fox
@@03PaK i've seen Santa Sangre and Odishon which are more of my taste.
Gasper Noe should have directed Cat like Climax.
Holy shit lmao
I honestly cant even imagine Noe liking these kind of films
Climax > black panther
100%. Just saw it in US theaters thanks to A24
Climax > 2018 in film
Actually they both sucked and i didnt even watch BP. I would rather be dead.
@@JT-ss6si what's so wrong with black panther?
I agree.
Hey the man has different tastes, completely understandable
art is not about taste kid
yutube jode yes it is lol
@@CabezasDePescado yes it is, fetus
@@CabezasDePescado it's all about taste, sorry to break it to you
I agree. I'm not usually a fan of mainstream cinema. I just like the Scott Pilgrim comics as well as its movie adaptation by Edgar Wright, and the horror genre too
It's not about how terrible these movies are but how predictable they are. They're well done but they are all the same. Pretty much like the music industry actually.
@Careful Icarus Thinking more about it, yeah you're right and I agree
I view the movies that Gaspar makes the same as I view progressive music.... hard to predict and well/intricately crafted
yall mad cause he doesn't like a boring, corporate product lol
his films are the epitome of boring wtf smdh their for idiots who overthink every thing and perverts hes a hack
He says he liked Arrival tho...
@@leejee88 Sounds about right. Pretentious is alive and well.
@@MrK2890 Arrival was made by a an actual director who wanted to make that movie, not because he was hired to. Also that movie cost about 100M less than Black Cougar
JAY OH doesn’t change the fact that black panther was a bland corporate product that targets the middle class
The ending is perfect. "That one was pretty good"
Gaspar Noé on Star Wars & Black Panther: >:(
Gaspar Noé on Arrival: :D
I don't blame him though.
Haha this is pretty much one of those ‘of course he would moments’.
He is right . Black Panther was pure garbage .
Guys guys, I've been scrolling through the comments for about 5 minutes now and I haven't found a single person shitting on Noe. Y'all are just complaining about people who don't even exist 😂😂😂😂
Right?! Jeez i hate this fake intellectuals, always trying to sound smart by being sassy.
I mean, big productions have existed since the birth of cinema, so what's wrong about watching and liking them?
And this comes from me, a guy whose one of his favourite directors is Lars von Trier
But i love Disney too
So watch whatever the fuck you wanna watch and don't judge, peace✌️
@Careful Icarus we complain about people who are complaining about butthurt mcu fanboys in this comment section wich there isn't any, the difference is that the commentors we complain about are indeed in this comment section unlike the ones that complain about others bashing Noe wich are not here, one is justified the other isn't
I’m crying hahahahahah
because these people are THAT insecure, pompous and so desperately wanna feel like the master cinephile they're actually NOT.
They all're pathetic, really.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the award for the most pretentious comment section on UA-cam goes to...
what is worse is all you who are insecure and defensive about your lowest common denominator garbage meant for 8 year olds.
Pretentious? Sorry man, some people don’t like formulaic and corny, money-grubbing trash.
Vudoo13 He's talking about the comment section, not the video.
ffs @The Cat @Vudoo13 could you be more fucking predictable with those responses? You're proving his point...
Ah yes UA-cam, where everyone is a genius on film
Oh no somebody had a different opinion?! Grab the pitchforks!!! People need to grow up and realize that movies are are subjective. You are allowed to hate on Gasper Noe’s films just like how he is allowed to hate Black Panther. His dislike for the movie doesn’t make him a racist or a bad guy. It’s his opinion, so move on and continue loving Black Panther as you always have.
panther was very mediocre
doesn't change that this guy is extremely up his own ass sniffing his own farts directly from the source but worse of all a terrible filmmaker
i fucking sat there and saw entirety of asscreed in 3d, from start to finish. i suffered and was in pain. i don't go around saying i escaped it and that it's terrible without even ever seeing it. he doesn't even know if he dislikes panter, he never saw it. he can't say it's predictable he never saw it
Literally no one is saying anything
the hero we deserve
feel sorry for u...
I didn’t really like Black Panther either, it was pretty boring and corny
This really isn't surprising or anything, knowing him. Especially appreciating Villeneuve's film out of the 3. I love Gaspar's work, and think he's just bored to death with anything that doesn't try to push boundaries in any way. That's just how he is.
Say what you will about Gaspar and his films, but Black Panther was bland and generic trash.
In other word, a Marvel movie.
Like you
You must have bland and generic trash taste, I bet you like the room idiot
Willy-Brad someone's upset...
But still makes $1billion worldwide???!!
Anyone who knows Noe would know he doesn't go for mainstream, he's a real artist and can smell commercialism. People will still be watching "Irreversible" long after Black Panther and the MCU is forgotten.
I agree with this.
Black Panther will never be forgotten FOH😂😂😂
People are really watching Irreversible? Why would someone do that to themselves?
@@diegosoto8116 😂Yeah, there are a few scenes that do me in.
@@sneakykamon Black Panther has already been forgotten 😂
Bro honestly Black Panther is overrated af
I don’t care ( T’Challa voice)
I love Gaspar Noe. He’s an amazing filmmaker. He’s one of the few that I still think a lot about the film after watching. The short film Carne, I Stand Alone, Irreversible, Enter the Void, Love, Climax and Lux Eterna were phenomenal and I can’t wait to see Vortex (starring one of my other favorite directors!). That being said I can’t see him sitting down and watching a film like Black Panther or any other big budget effects driven superhero film without getting bored or desperately wanting to change the channel. I don’t care for those movies either, but if you watch Gaspar Noe’s film output it may make more sense why he doesn’t care for those films.
yeah i don’t like black panther either but this video is still hilarious to me
I’ve loved this video for a while now, but I’m excited for the Sardonicast fans to start rolling in.
That's funny, as he was saying "action movies, sci fi movies, they bore me" I was thinking "man I wonder if this guy saw Arrival? He would probably like that and/or Blade Runner 2049."
And then the one recent movie he calls out as good is Arrival!
I think he hates mindlessly diffused those genres have become. But Villenueve movies have originality and soul.
He says he mostly get bored by them that means not all of them
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He s got a point Black Panther was pretty unwatchable.
Reese Calden
I'm sure you would have a tough time
losgryfog
It was a cringe fest
Brett
A billion begs to differ
losgryfog
It was a marvel movie that is required viewing for future marvel installments.
It was a big budget black entertainment... meant to get black people in the seats.
It was going to be a guaranteed hit.... even if it was the worst movie ever made.
It's a sad movie to me, because it exemplifies the inadequacies of African culture, by showing something that is never going to exist in real life Africa, but has existed already in other cultures.
It pushed the narrative of blaming other people for lackluster industrial development.
There are regions in Africa that are untouched by white colonialism.
Those regions are about as primitive as one could imagine.
The real wakanda is a straw Hut.
This is why the movie is sad. This is why the movie is a cringe Fest.
Brett the fact that blaming "other" people for Africa's current state is what you got from the movie is very telling of the narrative you have subscribed to your whole life. It was a big budget "Hollywood" film meant to line the pockets of already super wealthy fat cats and it did just that. It also put an almost entirely black cast on the screen, something which before those same fat cats claimed would never work and also I suspect part of the reason you and others of your mindset cringed so much. Enjoy.
For real FUCK Star Wars.
You know what? Not everyone likes everything y’all like. I’m a huge superhero and Star Wars films fan but he has a point. They’re not for everyone. I just watched Love and I can’t shake that weird feeling in my gut.
Agree
They are bult exactly to be for everyone. Thats the problem.
Love was too drawn out and the main actor cannot act.
The only man I would give a pass not liking star wars.
star wars is stupid
@@oggio7361 Yeah you are right, it became pretty stupid.
It's a fuckin kids movie. It's hold in such a high regard by grown ups because of nostalgia, nothing more. Stupid shit about space wizards
@@slimymclord8165 Does it being a kids movie makes it therefore bad?
@@exiszentriker2952 Absolutely not, but it's taken so seriously by it's fans like it's the Sixtine Chapel of cinema or something. It was the 70's version of The Avengers bullshit we have today, I bet that in 30 years from now on we'll have millions of manchildren talking about how great the Transformers movies were.
agree black panther no really that good
rafa gonz it’s decent at best but way overrated
Robert Martinez you don't get an opinion when your profile pic is that in 2018
LOCKNSIM AlwaysWatching it’s UA-cam what do people need my profile pic For lol
Your photo matches your ability to type in proper English.
There's no R&B in the first 20 mins of Black Panther though...
Still fucking atrocious music. Kendrick Lamar is a horrible music composer
@@aaronshouting588 wasn't him but ludwig göransson
@@aaronshouting588 true shit taste
I very much side with Gaspar Noe here. I just straight-up don't care too much for the modern Marvel Cinematic Universe at all. I prefer the movies HE makes, as well as other movies along that line.
I like Marvel movies tho but they're not my inspiration and I'm not really obsessed with Marvel movies even though I still watch trailers from Marvel movies. Now I really look up to vintage experimental films, Japanese vintage films, French New Wave films, and more European films from the 1950s-1970s.
He stands alone. And he excels.
Black Panther was garbage and he no one cares what you think
Diego Soto he wasn’t saying anything bad about gaspar...
There is a movie of his called I Stand Alone
no shit
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All that R&B music in Star Wars
He meant Black Panther.
He's obviously talking about Black Panther dude
Except there was no R&B music in the first 20 minutes of Black Panther
Are you saying that he actually used the stopwatch?
Yeah, Black Panther was a bad film.
It's ok to not like Black Panther. Referring to the music as R&B music pretty much explains his taste is different.
It literally is r&b though
@@jmo5755 it's hip hop actually.
R&B is more of the stuff like Luther, Mary, Freddie..y'know those guys and gals. Kendrick Lamar's hip hop..or rap, whichever ya wanna call it.
@@isuriadireja91 Hip Hop is the name of the culture, not the genre. Both R&B and Rap Music are apart of Hip Hop Culture.
@@Exosphere._ well, R&B existed way before hip hop or rap ever did so, i don't think R&B can be considered as a part of it...neo soul, maybe...but, not R&B.
hip hop for me is newer..for the next generation kinda thang... it is a culture now...but, i think i remember when...somehow, it was a term that rap seemingly evolved into...but, i dunno...i don't really pay attention to rap and hip hop, so u maybe right...but, i definitely know R&B's not part of it..that's from even my time...
All that black music sounds the same anyway
I like Black Panther, most of the Star Wars films and also Arrival. I recognize they are very different from each other but all are critically good films. I also enjoy well made documentary films. But hey, we all have differing opinions, right?
Then lets say you consume both trash and good movies. Black Panther is overhyped and overrated and the only reason critics rated it that high to avoid backlashes.
Pls dont tell me you consider Blank Panther as an art. Its just another Disney/MCU corporate product.
Matt Devil Murdock that does not mean it isnt art. i suppose the meaning of art is just as subjective as whether or not the art is any good, but if you consider film an art, Black Panther is a film. you not liking it doesnt take that away.
kaan. Art has to be unique. MCU/Disney movies are the same garbage repackaged with different titles.
Matt Devil Murdock why does art have to be unique? the only thing that gives art any sort of value is your personal experience with it. if you dont connect with a piece of art, or if you find it formulaic, then it has no value to you. be content with having things that you like instead of having this elitest mindset that makes you more special then everyone else because youve think that marvel movies are formulaic.
He is right. It was absolutely terrible.
yup. Nice to see someone speak their mind. I thought it was bland and generic, and its political commentary was in direct contradiction with the main characters motivations, making a fool of itself
im all for diversity, and it was an all black cast practically, so that's good, you can get into what other types of demographics it lacks etc etc but that's not the point, the point is that they used the race angle as a marketing tool. Its cynical, because it's different on a superficial level, skin: character's skin is different and the skin the cityscape has is different, but beyond that, the movie is as generic as marvel movies get, and when it tried to shove in some political commentary, it ends up favoring monarchies, which is a form of classism, a form of discrimination based on an arbitrary quality part of the population has, like racism, and it also favors american agents interfering and destabilizing a foreign government when this government threatens to destroy the way of life USA benefits from. So basically they just shoved in a political angle in order to market the movie using it, race etcetc, its all for money. That's, in part, why I think Noe says you can't learn anything from most modern movies, they really have nothing honest to say
I have a lot of white people tell me they like it because it shows that even in the lives there are family skeletons, they see how African Americans are treated in the United Sates and how some white people want to take our rich African history and rewrite it. As was done in the museum scene. If art of any kind doesn't do more than entertain, if it doesn't provoke thoughts to have a conversation then to me it's meaningless.
yeah, i get the colonisation angle the movie tries to play with, but the fact that then it has a white CIA agent sabotaging an african revolution with the help of our protagoinist and overthrowing a legitimate government just invalidates any kind of comment the movie tries to make (legitimate by the movie rules, which make no sense. Killmonger has a right to the throne why? The fact that he beats T'Challa doesn't count as a victory if T'Challa doesn't explicitly say " i yield"? So what if he just dies mid fight because of a blow to the head? There is no king? Also, i'm ignoring that monarchy isn't legitimate to begin with, but anyway. The walking dead girl has a whole scene saying how Killmonger is the rightful king whether they like it or not, and she has to be loyal, but when she really really doesn't like it she just gives no f*cks and decides to betray her king? what a character arc! I'm loyal to the king! well, not this one! The other one! The whole waterfall scenes are pointless if the former loyal family can kill the newly crowned king)
you gotta love the " you don't like black panther? you are a racist!" "but i like..." "racist!" that's a studio using a real oppression to invalidate fair criticism that could hinder their box office performance
Honestly, he makes himself sound like one of those people who go into a movie with preconceptions of how terrible it will be and aren't willing to change their opinion once their mind is already set on hating it.
Walking out of a movie because of the "R&B" music seems like a bit of an overreaction, but maybe that's just me.
xviolet953 it is an overreacting. Grown ass man acts like a child.
xviolet953 waaah "I didn't like the music" BOO HOO.
xviolet953 you don’t have to even try to see Black Panther to know it’s bad. I know it’s a shitty movie just by reading the synopsis.
“After the death of his father, T'Challa returns home to the African nation of Wakanda to take his rightful place as king. When a powerful enemy suddenly reappears, T'Challa's mettle as king -- and as Black Panther -- gets tested when he's drawn into a conflict that puts the fate of Wakanda and the entire world at risk. Faced with treachery and danger, the young king must rally his allies and release the full power of Black Panther to defeat his foes and secure the safety of his people.”
Lol. Sounds like a movie for 8 years olds.
Have you seen any Noe films? I like Enter the Void, but something tells me you’d walk out of that.
Noe doesn’t seem like that at all actually... based on past interviews I’ve watched of his, he seems very open-minded and willing to try things... and you can definitely see that in this films.
Watch Irreversible or Enter the Void. Both good films
Its a pretty terrible movie tho and predictable asf its basically lion kings story
I like how y’all are conveniently ignoring that he said he hates Star Wars 😂
I just KNOW some of y’all are triggered by that.
this man has taste
These films are generic. He is right. But he caters for a different audience. His films are more interesting.
'There are not so many movies that really learn you anything.'
Based and kino pilled as usual
Love Gaspar Noe and who gives a shit if he hated Black Panther? You know who also doesn't really care for Marvel and comic book movies in general? A good portion of the people who make and star in them. I grew up on comic books and the superhero genre and philosophically have nothing against them, but let's be real here, approximately 75% of why these things get made is because of money and not passion for the story or for the art of it. All filmmaking is a commercial enterprise in one way or another and I'm not saying that there isn't a passion for the story and for the art of filmmaking in those movies, but it is largely about IP and how it can be maximized with toys and video games and clothing, etc.
Noe is just being real and he's not making a big deal of it. Who gives a fuck?
Vincent Dawn People get too attached and defensive over superhero fare for no reason. I've been reading comic books on and off since I was 5 which was 30 years ago. I learned to read well and understand narrative structures cause of comic books. I own over 1K DC and Marvel books (mostly DC) dating all the way back to the 80s.
With that said I'd take an original film or a documentary over a superhero film anyday. I actually hadn't watched any MCU movie since The Avengers greatly disappointed me back in 2012.
So about a month ago I tried keeping an open mind bt giving the last Thor movie a shot cause of the praise and I fast forwarded through it and "watched it" all within 15 min. The sad part is my friend that was there with me and had seen it at the cinema pretty much confirmed that my reading of it all in such a brief time (rogue asgardian warrior lady, Goldblum being overthrowed etc.) was correct. That's how predictable it has all become. You don't even have to engage with the movie to know what happens. In those cases what is the point?
There are exceptions every now and then like Deadpool or Wonder Woman where I walked out surprised but for the most part this subgenre is beyond played. Superhero movies are stuck in a creative corner they can't seem to move out of.
You can't even expect the same level of imagination and intuitive storytelling you still see in some mainstream published comics these days (Ie: Multiversity) with the movies. It' all safe with as little creative risk as possible.
Naturally for a cinephile who is used to following an art form previously hailed for creative and innovative risk taking storytelling like film it's a chore to get jiggy with some shit like that.
The only type of comic book adaptations that take those chances are based on niche and outlier type of books like the DC published Road to Perdition or A History of Violence about a decade back. But we don't even see non-superhero comics get optioned for adaptation in film like that anymore. Everybody wants a piece of the moldy superhero pie.
All superhero movies suck. I think the only good one was Watchmen. Cinema wise. But it's about the sort of escapeism. Long week, you go out with a girl or your friends and just go see a movie. For example people gather together and watch Sharknado to laugh at how bad it is because it's more about spending time with people. Do I think comic book movies are as bad? No but it's in that direction where it's about the night itself rather then the movie. Plus I feel like there's a difference between a movie and a film. For example, Transformers is a movie, while Garden State, Call me By Your Name, or The Godfather are films. They either change your mindset or just have an impact on you. But I'm getting side tracked here. I think Gaspar went into Black Panther with the eyes of a director, which if you go to a super hero movie for the cinema of it you will be INCREDIBLY disappointed.
Your first two sentences kind of kill whatever it is you say after them. 1. I don't *hate* superhero movies, I just wish they didn't take up so much air in the marketplace and I don't get upset when other filmmakers slag them. Many of them are very well made and entertaining and some of them (like Nolan's Batman films) are even artful and intellectually engaging. 2. Watchmen is not a good movie. I haven't actively read comics since 2009, but I read Watchmen years before that and Zack Snyder's film is a visual xerox of Alan Moore's rather dense and impressive work but with absolutely *none* of its substance. There are at least two god awful performances from actors playing major characters in that film and virtually every change from the comic to the film harms the overall effectiveness of the adaptation. I saw it in theaters and had a miserable fucking time.
Vincent Dawn ok all Marvel movies suck. And we'll say difference of opinion. Because how you feel about Watchmen is how I feel about Marvel movies. Since I read the comics I'm busy hating it because that's how true it is to the original story. Now I didn't read Watchmen until after the movie. So it didn't affect my movie going experience. So to repeat what I said all of the negative emotions you feel about the Watchmen movies I have for Marvel and DC movies. So I actually agree with you or at least understand where you are coming from.
Vincent Dawn also the Nolan movies don't count. They were incredible. They're the exception of the rule. I'm talking in majority superhero movies tend to be bad.
Now I want to see a Gaspar Noe directed Star Wars movie.
Ironically that’s the kind of mindset that keeps you from learning. Can’t even be in the same room as something outside your norm? Thats just sad and disappointing to hear after watching his movies frankly
Is this suppose to be controversial? It's his opinion, plus who is this guy anyway...he looks like the informant in a international spy movie.
He's a well-known director of "art films". Rather notorious for transgressive stuff.
Well he definitely has a taste of his own. *Irreversible tunnel scene comes to mind*
yup...about the only reason that many people actually watched that movie.
He is right. Black Panther is only hype.
My man has a great taste. Not a fan of his last two movies, Enter The Void and Love, but I'm eagerly waiting for Climax.
Climax was really good
Enter the Void is his best movie imo.
What did you think of Climax
@@proskater141
I think it is one of his better movies, though not in the same league as Soul Contre Tous and Irreversible.
Black Panther is the most overrated movie ever..
Gasper Noe: Hates science fiction movies
Also Gasper Noe: Loves 2001
He is clearly into movies that make you think instead of the generic commercial cinema. Can't really blame him for that.
@@tathagatabishayee9345 I know that. I was just pointing the irony in it all. That's all.
he should've been specific. star wars is in the space opera subgenre
It’s amazing how he ignorantly brushes of entire genres, while his films demand you to be open minded. You’re asking a lot, if you want your audience to sit through a nine minute rape scene, from his film Irreversible. This clip is incredibly ironic
Snowflake
You don't need anything to watch anything. What he likes is something more of a film than a product.
I like Black Panther movie soundtrack. I think this movie have the best soundtrack then all MCU movies.
But I saw Arrival (I thought it as entertaining sci fi movie) and it completely blew my mind.
So sad it's underrated
Black Panther was mediocre and overrated. Respect to Gaspar Noe for not shying away and stating his opinion.
No surprises, Black Panther sucks
Стальной Дент well did you like red Sparrow I know you went to go see that it has your people in it
MALE WOHF LIFESTYLE & WISDOM No, i didn't see it and, frankly, doesn't really want to. I've seen reviews, and I'm not into this whole leCarre-esque aestethics, especially when it's not Le Carre story. And what do you mean by "your people"? You think I choose movies to watch by the fact, whether they have Russians or not?
I'm not really surprised, if he doesn't usually enjoy movies he certainly wouldn't enjoy Black Panther, it's not a terrible movie but it's definitely nothing special
Goon Lord fuck you
losgryfog well it isn't
He's perfectly entitled to his opinions, however the Black Panther soundtrack was fucking lit
He and Scorsese would be good friends.
I personally think Black Panther should be used as a litmus test for whether or not you’ll like action/superhero movies. BP has some surprisingly deep themes about war, colonialism, diaspora, and cultural trauma.
why did it have to be packaged like a happy meal toy tho
I'M BLACK AND I WAS HAPPY FOR BLACK PANTHER I DID NOT REALLY LIKE IT TO BE HONNEST BUT YEAH NOE IS ONE OH THE MOST TALENTED GUY
Haven't seen Balck Panther, but Arrival was amazing.
Arrival is better than Black Panther and Star Wars
I like Marvel movies and Star Wars movies, but I respect the guys opinion. Opinions are opinions, not everyone has to have the same hive mindset.
Fuck yeah, love when I come across a commenter like you, man. Hope you’re doing well
I love how all the people hating on him have no fucking clue who he is or what hes done lmao
@@tenoch5589 bro this was 2 fuckin years ago how the hell would I remember 8^[]
Hey I like Noe. And then I like Adam Sandler movies. Sounds like I win.
they're pretty much the same kind.
Have you seen his films? Honestly I would've been surprised and shocked if he sayed he actually liked Marvel movies.
I mean what have y seen
Just a great Filmmaker respecting an other's Filmmaker's good Work
And telling the truth about Hollywood.
Black Panther was pretty good for what it aimed at. One of the best superhero films imo. They are quite shallow and simple though. If you want something layered and that will make you think stuff you never thought before, not for you at all haha.
As soon as I hear someone say “something isn’t cinema” I instantly assume they have NO idea what they are talking about. “Cinema” is about story telling. Whether bad or good stories, it’s still cinema. You have fantastical cinema mcu, and more grounded cinema, Nomadland. At the end of day it’s all cinema. Just displayed in different creative means and how the director wants to tell the story. So to say a movie telling a story “itsent cinema” is just outright stupid. . Not everything is for everyone, but don’t shit on something just because it’s not for you, respect the art. Because it’s all in the same boat. Just displayed differently.
MCU ain't cinema. It's literal popcorn entrainment and merchandising advertising. Saying that anything in the MCU is cinema is an insult to cinema. There's nothing creative about black panther
Yes and no. Yes, they are all movies, no they do not all have an intent that aims at fundamentally cinematic storytelling. A plot doesn't make cinema, a sense of visual literacy makes cinema, and the biggest problems of the average modern blockbuster is that they are competently made, yet have none of that which distinguishes cinema from other art forms
I was watching this wondering “would he like Denis Villeneuve movies?” then he mentioned liking Arrival. This man and Villeneuve are definitely my two favorite directors
I don't think this guy grasp the concept of just watching movies as a form of entertainment, instead sees other films as a potential source of inspiration or a point of reference.
It is liberating to enjoy films for what it is and don't necessarily have to "take" anything from it.
I love the way he says dvd shop
heheh i like how his french interferes with his english when he says "learn" instead of "teach" which is "apprendre" for both cases in french. Also, i feel very much the same when i go to the movies (at a mainstream cinema) it's always disappointing in some way
He is from Argentina.
he hasn't lived in argentina since 1976. he speaks english with a distinct french accent
I used to love going to movies when I was a kid. As an adult I can never seem to recapture the joy movies gave me as a child. That's not to say I don't like movies anymore but they are mostly disappointing at this point.
Dont they say enseigner in french?
Teach can also be “enseigner” what’re you talking about?
I respect people's opinions... that said his still reeks of pretentiousness
Why?
Ugghh ... I get the same feeling bro when i watch movies like "Olympus has fallen, American sniper, saving private ryan and many more"...
he has it right with dennis villeneuve's film, everything dennis makes, becomes masterpiece immediately
absolutely based
Who's going back to this video after Denis Villeneuve comments about MCU? Lmao
I may sound “butthurt” when I say this but the fact that he felt the need to say he hated the “r&b music” in Black Panther suggests to me something else because there was no true R&B music - it was a fusion of Hip-Hop and modern African music. But I’ll be reasonable and say that BP just wasn’t for him. It wasn’t made for him. It was made for Black people like myself who wanted to see ourselves represented positively in a mainstream superhero blockbuster. With respect to Mr. Noe, I don’t think the average moviegoer even knows who he is. I’m barely familiar with his work and I study Film. I only know one other person who knows who he is and that’s a cousin of mine who had to watch his movies for class. Do I think Black Panther is a perfect film? No, I do not. But to say the music made you “escape the cinema after 20 minutes” sounds very nit picky to me, especially when I’ve heard the score was one of the best parts of the film. Hell, it even won an Oscar for it. Just my two cents.
Well, the first thing you said was right at least
@@mikaperzyna8230 💀💀💀
@@mikaperzyna8230 Beats having a b*tch name🤷🏾♂️
I completely agree with you man. You’re TOTALLY right.
I don’t understand why people have the need to hate on everything. Specifically Marvel. I love and know pretty well both worlds, comic book movies/pop culture as well as art cinema, as some people like to call it.
I really don’t get why people have to diminish the value of a well done product just because it doesn’t align with their taste. If they actually invest the time to study, inform and appreciate the interconective narrative, character development, technology and many other contributions that Marvel movies (i.e.) have brought to the movie industry and zeitgeist, they would understand it’s very interesting and important impact.
Of course you’re not obliged to like them but you could acknowledge its importance, influence and value. The good thing about Art is that it doesn’t have “rules”, it’s free. If you dare to set some, someone will certainly come and break them.
You will obviously have your personal opinion, but you can’t force others to think the same. And it’s very sad for me (as a fan) seeing so many people hating on something subjectively good (as a fan again) just because it’s mainstream, cause I believe that’s the main reason why now everyone hates on Marvel, cause of the success and popularity, not the actual quality. I often wish that it would’ve stay as the small independent studio it once was (before Disney).
I do enjoy Marvel movies and I do enjoy Gaspar Noe’s films. One does not exclude the other. And it applies to the entire industry. You’re a purist if you believe otherwise, it has already happened several times in art history. And that’s ok, but people don’t have to be pretentious 🤷🏻♂️
@@sneakykamon when someone is mean to your Disney products about men in pyjamas hitting each other
Well, I personally really enjoyed Black Panther. But Arrival is a friggin BANGER of a film. So you have won my respect there.
me too gaspar, me too
I love how he says “I escaped the cinema” like he was being held captive with a gun to his head and a knife to his throat. Not gonna lie, with todays cinema, I can’t really blame him.
I don't care if he didn't like the movie, but where was all this R&B in the first 20 minutes at? I mean, if someone says they walked out of Lord of The Rings because they don't like rock music, I'd wonder what fucking movie they were watching.
To be fair black panther wasn't that good, shame he probably heard the buzz and was like, "fine, I'll see what's up". Shame tchalla was better in civil war than in his own movie
I never watched any of his films, but after seeing this, I think I will.
So what did u think about his movies ?
@@MrSophystication they're awesome family-friendly entertainment all people can enjoy.
@@MachineFuckingHate exactly, my 8 year old son love those movies so much that he cries every times from joy
Anyone expecting to get anything meaningful out of a comic book movie or that kind of movie should know by know that there’s nothing deep about them, they not meant for that…
Theres nothing wrong with blockbusters like Star Wars and Marvel Films. That said, i too thought Black Panther was subpar.
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Hans Gruber: And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain he wept for there were no more world's to conquer.
You can learn from movies just not all the time.
Says the guy who uses ultra violence, shaky camera, drugs and shitty storylines in all of his movies lmao
and where is this bad?
And he still makes masterpieces
Ian Curtis used depression for his music and you like it
the irony, a guy with Joy Division picture is saying this
Of course he picks arrival cuz its directed by a French Canadian director.
Noe is from Argentina, but whatever makes you feel better👍