BAYLE THE DREAD from ELDEN RING Is Way Deeper Than I Thought

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  • Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
  • We're finally listening to Bayle the Dread from Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree. This one feels way deeper than all the others in the Elden Ring DLC. Why do I keep getting this sense of redemption and heroism?
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  • @DaviVasc
    @DaviVasc  Місяць тому +29

    I have a bunch of other videos on Elden Ring music. They're all over here: ua-cam.com/video/pTss2Ot6atk/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB

    • @codyshaffer8714
      @codyshaffer8714 Місяць тому +1

      There is a version of Bayles soundtrack with the voicelines of the NPC who joins in on the fight that’ll clear up why there’s heroic beats in the song

    • @wigglerrave4020
      @wigglerrave4020 Місяць тому +1

      It seems you haven’t done Dragonlord Placidusax’s theme yet. One thing to note going into it that I haven’t seen any other composer mention is that the ancient dragons (of which Placidusax is one) have their own leitmotifs. Both are simple, double-note phrases, one note high and the other low. The immediate difference between them is which note comes first. You have done Fortissax’s theme, where these appear most prominently in the second phase, so you should be able to spot them.

  • @timclaridge8458
    @timclaridge8458 Місяць тому +496

    Lore summary: Local dragon too angry to die. Local man also too angry to die.

    • @MLynchPhotograpy
      @MLynchPhotograpy Місяць тому +73

      Local Tarnished just wanted the heart, didn’t expect to get so attached to local man

    • @aleksanderzaremba9695
      @aleksanderzaremba9695 Місяць тому +23

      an unstoppable force meets an unmovable object.

    • @czowiekniegodny9575
      @czowiekniegodny9575 Місяць тому

      Doomslayer vibes

    • @orenges7034
      @orenges7034 Місяць тому +7

      Reports say that heart still beats, meaning local dragon is STILL too angry to die

    • @MamaTrixxieAsmr
      @MamaTrixxieAsmr Місяць тому +6

      @@MLynchPhotograpy thats especially true for my dragon communion build lol. all my builds i have going atm are based off the seven deadly sins(concept not anime)
      dragon communion build is gluttony, mainly using dragonmaw, dragonclaw, and greyolls roar, her travels through the dlc so far have seen her devouring all 3 dragons on the way to bayle, finding a new weapon meant to make an easier meal of dragons, and being disgusted at the very concept of the ghostflame dragons lol
      she will devour bayle's heart soon lol
      once she does she gets to join pride, wrath, and lust as their true versions lol
      greed, sloth, and envy still have yet to enter the dlc but envy has the most requirements before i rename em to a 'true sin' which basically means ive surpassed a certain milestone thematic to their sin lol

  • @LordMehu
    @LordMehu Місяць тому +231

    “CURSE YOU, BAYLE!
    I HEREBY VOW,
    YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!
    BEHOLD A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR AND I IGON!
    YOUR FEARS, MADE FLESH!
    SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON!
    BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE!
    WITH A HAIL OF HARPOOOONS!
    WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!
    GHAAAAAAAAAAAA!
    BAYLE THE DREAD!
    YOU SHALL HAUNT ME, NO LONGER…”

    • @lovelessD9
      @lovelessD9 Місяць тому +22

      bro i got so hyped when i realized i am the true drake warrior hes talking about

    • @professorgrimm4602
      @professorgrimm4602 Місяць тому +7

      The voice actor really gave it 100%

  • @Chireiya
    @Chireiya Місяць тому +352

    So the analysis tells me, this is not just Bayle's theme. It's Igon and Bayle's theme. It's Igon's last hurrah, his final push for redemption with the player's help. This might be the first time an optional NPC is incorporated in the theme of a boss. And honestly, the fight is incomplete without Igon screaming his heart out at Bayle, so it makes sense to me.

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth Місяць тому +51

      Seems to absolutely be the case, the music ends on a calm note, because Bayle finally haunts Igon no longer, and he can finally rest.

    • @Exalt92
      @Exalt92 Місяць тому +8

      Same thing came to my mind! Well said! The wild rush of the battle and then the dreaded introspection of Igon having been haunted by his hunt for the dragon all his life

    • @georgiykireev9678
      @georgiykireev9678 Місяць тому +13

      It's a little funny how Bayle/Igon are just a very obvious Moby Dick reference, with no relevance to the main plot of the dlc whatsoever, and yet people care about them more than the actual Miquella stuff. Guess that book is a classic for a reason lol

    • @JaymzShikari
      @JaymzShikari Місяць тому +7

      ​@@georgiykireev9678 I like to believe they're split from the main story because Igon was so transfixed upon Bayle that even miquella's charm couldn't take him, how can one steal a heart that is already stolen?

    • @namelol.mp4561
      @namelol.mp4561 12 днів тому

      I like the idea that the parts where it gets quiet is very representative of two voices - there's a higher voice and a lower one, which might be Igon and Bayle. It feels like theres that deep connection below the loudness of everything, but I don't know what it means (I'm too stupid to understand any further lol)

  • @thelichenking9878
    @thelichenking9878 Місяць тому +536

    BAYLE! VILE BAYLE!

    • @Blasphemousa
      @Blasphemousa Місяць тому +63

      _O TERROR INCARNATE!_

    • @laserduck6149
      @laserduck6149 Місяць тому +52

      THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET!

    • @RockinWitJay
      @RockinWitJay Місяць тому +25

      BEHOLD A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR AND I, IGON... YOUR FEARS MADE FLESH

    • @srarts123
      @srarts123 Місяць тому

      I WILL RIDDLE YOUR ROTTEN HIDE WITH A HALE OF HARPOONS!

    • @azazelsiad3601
      @azazelsiad3601 Місяць тому +29

      “Bayle VILE Bayle, OH Terror incarnate, THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET, I WILL SOON FEAST UPON YOUR HEART MARK MY WORDS YOU TOO SHALL FEEL FEAR!!!”
      “Igon, piteous Igon, do you not REMEMBER? CONJURE YOUR PAST, HOW ONCE YOU WERE, WHEN FEAR WAS YET FOREIGN TO THEE!!”
      “CURSE YOU BAYYYLE!! I hereby vow you shall RUE this day! Behold, a true Drake Warrior, and I Igon, your fears made flesh!!!”
      “SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE FOUL DRAGON BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE!! WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS, WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!!!!”

  • @lialkonda6557
    @lialkonda6557 Місяць тому +624

    CUUUUUURSE YOU BAYLE !

    • @laserduck6149
      @laserduck6149 Місяць тому +72

      I HEREBY VOW, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY!

    • @TheStarHunter-zc2bo
      @TheStarHunter-zc2bo Місяць тому +68

      BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR! AND I, IGON.

    • @nickhaan9846
      @nickhaan9846 Місяць тому +59

      YOUR FEAR MADE FLESH

    • @legendoflonk126
      @legendoflonk126 Місяць тому +27

      SON OF A SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON

    • @Asterionfu
      @Asterionfu Місяць тому +60

      SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON

  • @yeboi2379
    @yeboi2379 Місяць тому +309

    The fight with Bayle is most likely a reference to Moby Dick. I like to think that the theme song represents not just Bayle but the battle and struggle of Igon the stand in for Captain Ahab.

    • @dblczx6819
      @dblczx6819 Місяць тому +39

      It certainly feels like a battle on a stormy sea, doesn't it? I can't help but see this ever since I saw a comment on the matter.

    • @zack_feldman
      @zack_feldman Місяць тому +9

      Yeah absolutely. The mention of harpoons as well harkens to that, and that the two of them die.

    • @boardsword
      @boardsword Місяць тому +18

      Igon is literally labeled Ahab in some files lol

    • @zack_feldman
      @zack_feldman Місяць тому +3

      @@boardsword certainly fits the bill. It’s a great reference.

    • @Dastardly_Duo
      @Dastardly_Duo Місяць тому +5

      Yea the grudge between the 2 is definitely based on Moby Dick
      But I think Bayle as a character alone is based on Baal the God, or Baal the Fallen Angel in Paradise Lost. He fought God (Placidusax) and lost his wings and a leg. He's still revenge filled and will sacrifice anything to get it, even his life

  • @mt2r-music
    @mt2r-music Місяць тому +260

    It’s interesting how Placidusax and Bayle both have rather calm OSTs while being the strongest dragons in the world of Elden Ring. Just string instruments with some light choir and percussion. Comparing that to Midir it’s like light and day. It feels like something is missing which perfectly fits the lore. Both of them are missing multiple body parts due to a huge fight they had a while ago. Both are broken and badly wounded. Both are constantly alternating between pure hatred for each other and nearly collapsing because of their injuries. That probably explains the sudden and abrupt pauses in their OSTs. It’s also notable that, again, both of them finish on a quiet note just after exploding into pure rage and emotions. At the end they gave their all, only seconds before finally falling to the ground one last time. But this time the injuries didn’t came from another dragon or drake. It came from you as the player.

    • @popkhorne5372
      @popkhorne5372 Місяць тому +4

      Both their themes remind me of the targaryen theme from game of thrones.

    • @umukzusgelos4834
      @umukzusgelos4834 Місяць тому +32

      And at the same time their songs characterize the two so well
      Bayle, described by Florissax is ambitious, vigorious and potentially a bit naive or at the very least very confident in his strength
      his song is adventurous, climactic but has quiet interludes with a hint of sadness, or perhaps regrett but near the end all caution is thrown out the window and as Bayle fights to his last his song goes into this tragic, heroic chant as if to celebrate the glory of Bayle the Dread one last time
      Placidusax is old, possibly older then all the other Dragons and with his age comes experience, his theme never really bellows up, it kaskades like rain while repeating the leitmotif of the Ancient Dragons, his people, the song warns you of the Dragonlord but remains very composed till the end, befitting a governing Elder Dragon, in a way his track always felt very sad, very mournful to me, especially the final notes, it is as if the song tells you "it is what it is and what was will never return"

    • @Al-ji4gd
      @Al-ji4gd Місяць тому +21

      I wouldn't call Bayle's OST calm whatsoever lol.

    • @mt2r-music
      @mt2r-music Місяць тому

      @@popkhorne5372 100%

    • @jacobg5122
      @jacobg5122 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@umukzusgelos4834
      Placidusax's theme to me always sounded like you're not fighting a dragon, you're fighting a storm. He's something more than you can truly comprehend and you're committing some kind of cosmic sin just by being there to challenge him.

  • @Hallo-fh3nw
    @Hallo-fh3nw Місяць тому +163

    I think, the soundtrack of Bayle is that heroic, because there is a NPC-Questline (Igon), that is very strongly connected with Bayle and includes very cool, heroic dialogue!

    • @eiriksundby
      @eiriksundby Місяць тому +7

      maybe not heroic per se, Igon is stated to be quite similar to bayle

    • @Jakov-or7fp
      @Jakov-or7fp Місяць тому +6

      ​@@eiriksundbyHe is described as such because he is ambitious and quite crazy, the only difference between the two is the side on which they find themselves

    • @eiriksundby
      @eiriksundby Місяць тому +4

      @@Jakov-or7fp thing is we don't really know anything about bayle or placidusax. We don't know to what end bayle sought to usurp placidusax. If that purpose was malicious or not. All we know is that bayle wanted placidusax gone and then sired the drakes

    • @elias.t
      @elias.t Місяць тому +6

      ​@@eiriksundbyFunnily enough, the biggest clue to Bayle's motives might be found from a random spirit in the hovel where you find the Talisman of the Dread.
      "O Bayle, tyrant drake. Do your wounds yet ache? Is your fury still yet to crest its zenith? Hurry, hurry, and lay it all to waste! Lay waste to the proud, the conceited, each, ev'ry last one of that arrogant lot."
      Undoubtedly the ancient dragons had a lot to be arrogant about. Perhaps Bayle, in his youth, bore the brunt of that arrogance.

    • @eiriksundby
      @eiriksundby Місяць тому +3

      @@elias.t yooo punk dragon

  • @vanjaarsic1616
    @vanjaarsic1616 Місяць тому +112

    To me track seems more treacherous than heroic. Like fighting a force of nature. I have to imagine that composer thought of hunt on Moby Dick when he composed it.

    • @azazelsiad3601
      @azazelsiad3601 Місяць тому +16

      “FOR HATES SAKE I SPIT MY LAST BREATH AT THEE, FROM HELLS FOUL HEART I STAB AT THEE!!!” -Captain Ahab.

    • @lurker5087
      @lurker5087 Місяць тому

      It's exactly what I imagine a soundtrack would sound like of the fight with moby dick it's actually insane

    • @pastorpatrick6893
      @pastorpatrick6893 Місяць тому

      ​@@azazelsiad3601 Sounds like an Igon line

    • @MamaTrixxieAsmr
      @MamaTrixxieAsmr Місяць тому

      how fitting considering that igon is basically captain ahab but for this ugly ass dragon

  • @atakan971
    @atakan971 Місяць тому +115

    Bro, there is an npc named igon that can be a part of this fight. There is a version of the soundtrack with his dialogue laiden on it. In my honest opinion, the ultimate bayle the dread soundtrack experience is with Igon's dialogue. There is a version of it on youtube. Love your content btw.

  • @firingstickman
    @firingstickman Місяць тому +40

    The start of the Second Phase's theme is really reminiscent of Placidusax's theme.
    It's almost like it represents the fact that we pushed Bayle to use the same powers he used in his fight against Uncle Placi.
    This game is a masterpiece, best game of all time

  • @androski5247
    @androski5247 Місяць тому +13

    You’re right, this is heroic. This isn’t Bayle’s theme, this is Igon’s.

  • @slendydie1267
    @slendydie1267 Місяць тому +12

    It makes sense. This theme is probably meant to represent slaying Bayle the Dread and Igon finally getting to finish his life long quest. That is why it's heroic and intimate because Igon has a history with Bayle and had given up on slaying dragons but the player inspired him once again to pick up his weapon. It's more like Igon and Bayle's theme than Bayle the Dread's theme. Igon finally gets to slay what has haunted him for so long which is why there are happy chords to represent the joy of finally setting himself free.
    The second phase is more Bayle focused as he fights for his life as well. As you said evil, hopelessness and defeat are present themes. That's probably composed to finally represent why he is called "The Dread" he gets super strong in his 2nd phase. Its a huge spectacle and I'd wager the composition represents that there is no hope of beating Bayle The Dread. I feel like the last solo instrument finally represents the slaying of Bayle
    I love watching those videos breaking it down I think your reactions are the best. I'm getting more and more inspired to learn music and music theory and your videos help a ton. Thanks

  • @alicematalice
    @alicematalice Місяць тому +82

    WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS! WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!

  • @bloodofphantoms
    @bloodofphantoms Місяць тому +74

    i just fucking realized the start of bayle's theme sounds like the Targaryen theme from GOT
    and i realized way back that the title of The Dread might also be a reference to one of the past dragon titles there mentioned

    • @kimberlyh.1090
      @kimberlyh.1090 Місяць тому +25

      That'd be Balerion the Black Dread. Nice catch.

    • @johnsmith361
      @johnsmith361 Місяць тому +37

      The names Igon and Bayle the Dread are a clear reference to GRRM's Aegon the Conqueror and his dragon Balerion the Dread.

    • @aminubk
      @aminubk Місяць тому +12

      @@johnsmith361now thats a catch! I noticed the bayle and balerion link but completely missed igon, good stuff.

    • @bloodofphantoms
      @bloodofphantoms Місяць тому +1

      i'm uploading a video on this to my channel as we speak, LOL. such a good theme

    • @socialjihad5724
      @socialjihad5724 Місяць тому +5

      Placidusax from the base game is far closer, theme is almost one to one with Dany's theme

  • @manquail2361
    @manquail2361 Місяць тому +44

    Bayie the dread before promised consort theme. Curse you bayle!

    • @trompettegilles9502
      @trompettegilles9502 Місяць тому +9

      we have to save this one for the last tbf

    • @duro3666
      @duro3666 Місяць тому

      I dont like the promised consort theme that much so i don't mind 🫡

  • @simonlofholm4011
    @simonlofholm4011 Місяць тому +7

    Plot twist: This is Igon’s theme

  • @CJ-cz3lt
    @CJ-cz3lt Місяць тому +4

    Think of it like Moby Dick. The dragon is the white whale and youre hunting it with someone who was injured by it

  • @blu6
    @blu6 Місяць тому +5

    Tai Tomisawa is the composer of this masterpiece, as well for Godskin Apostles and Dragonlord Placidusax themes. I love his style, Great video bro!

  • @Sargentwhitey
    @Sargentwhitey Місяць тому +12

    This fight, as usual for from, but especially so with this one, is equally a visual spectacle alongside the music. One of their best.

  • @azazelsiad3601
    @azazelsiad3601 Місяць тому +9

    So since you are so curious about Bayle and his tale I’ll give you the most comprehensive explanation I can and trust me the song truly does match very well with this boss. It starts with the ancient dragons why they hunt their lesser kin. The ancient dragons if you haven’t played the game are covered in stone scales that warp time and thusly they are immortal, the lesser dragons however are not born with these and are viewed as a regression in dragon kind and so the drake warriors are tasked by Dragonlord Placidusax to hunt all the lesser drakes and consume their hearts in dragon communion. Bayle is by far the strongest of the lesser kin we have ever encountered, so powerful in fact that he led a rebellion against Placidusax and in a battle that ended in mutual mortal defeat he fled to the jagged peak to lick his wounds and in that time became known as “The Dread” this is also why Placidusax is so wounded when you fight him as that’s the damage done by Bayle. Igon a man of little repute and no known background save being a Drake warrior took it upon himself to hunt Bayle and his attempt left him physically broken and broken with fear and riddled with madness. However upon seeing the tarnished demonstrate their skill in slaying drakes his hope of defeating Bayle is renewed to a fanatic extent where he then bites off his own finger and give it to the Tarnished to use to summon him to finish his great dragon hunt. I guess in some ways Bayle could be considered a heroic type rising up against a tyrannical Placidusax but it’s also made clear he become even worse and was universally hated and feared. I think the heroic portions of this song speak to what could have been for Bayle a rebel turned tyrant but I also think it speaks to how heroic Igon and the Tarnished are for facing such a monster. And the second potion of the music speaks to how terrifying Bayle is when he fully lets loose on his power and tries to strike that sense of hopelessness into the player. And the last part goes really well with Igons final words at the end of the fight. “Bayle the Dread, You shall haunt me no longer.”

  • @Anch0rd
    @Anch0rd Місяць тому +10

    My favorite way to listen to this song is with Igon's dialogue layered over it

  • @twoshieldsandsomemilk
    @twoshieldsandsomemilk Місяць тому +2

    This may be a hot take but this track is such a breath of fresh air among the usual fromsoft music. Soulsborne music is always perfect for the context but on its own far too much is, in my opinion, just a bunch of melodramatic symphonic noise. This, I think, is why we all gravitate more to tracks like this. Final Battle from the Radagon fight, Abyss Watchers, Ludwig the Holy Blade, Slave Knight Gayle, Fortissax, Godskin Duo (by no means an exhaustive list) These more melodic tracks are popular because there is clear direction rather than just pounding symphony noise.

  • @honeytlbadger4365
    @honeytlbadger4365 Місяць тому +18

    I recommend The Saint of the Bud from the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC!

    • @Ar17778
      @Ar17778 Місяць тому +1

      You could recommend almost every remembrance boss at this point, fromsoft once again cooked in every aspect

    • @alilweeb7684
      @alilweeb7684 Місяць тому

      ​@@Ar17778except commander Gaius

  • @HerMi.T
    @HerMi.T Місяць тому +19

    Promised consort next. It is my favourite song in the dlc.

  • @ancient.warrior
    @ancient.warrior Місяць тому +3

    It‘s amazing how much work they put into composing a song that portrays the fight and the story behind it so accurat. They know exactly when to put this snd that chord etc. incredible. People really need to appreciate more the music in videogames.

  • @aziznezo
    @aziznezo Місяць тому +9

    i believe that the first phase is the prospective of both Bayle and Igon (a summonable NPC who hunts dragons), the sad and calm part could reflect on Bayles condition since his body is severely wounded from previous fights, it is missing an arm and a wing, yet the heroic part being how Igon's is portrayed from the first time you meet him, he has an exciting and charismatic character.
    However, second phase seems more focused on Bayles prospective and his previous fights in the lore.
    with all said, crazy how fromsoft's musical team always makes the player search for hidden meanings behind their music.

  • @ThisLiteralFP
    @ThisLiteralFP Місяць тому +59

    I have to recommend Slave Knight Gael after you’re done with all the DLC tracks. In my opinion, it’s tied with only Ludwig for best soulsborne track, and I know you’d love dissecting it. Great video as always 👍

    • @DaviVasc
      @DaviVasc  Місяць тому +32

      I'll definitely do it at some point soon!

    • @regmatshiya1437
      @regmatshiya1437 Місяць тому +13

      @@DaviVasc Slave Knight Gael is one of DS3’s best, my personal favorite. You should definitely listen to it at some point🔥

    • @Holynoelle
      @Holynoelle Місяць тому +1

      2 anos depois e ele ainda nunca analisou a OST do Gael? Jesus

    • @bashfulwolfo6499
      @bashfulwolfo6499 Місяць тому

      Every damn time me and my friend fight Gael on our NG+ runs, I always mention how amazing the music is while I’m panic rolling away from him
      It’s pretty much tradition at this point lmao

    • @steepdavid8092
      @steepdavid8092 Місяць тому

      I second this Comment

  • @Artem-eu3uv
    @Artem-eu3uv Місяць тому +8

    9:16 i love this moment

    • @serpuffmcpass5859
      @serpuffmcpass5859 16 днів тому

      So many chills when the choir reinforces that orchestra! The sheer dread in that small arrangement is 🤌

  • @V0RTA
    @V0RTA 26 днів тому +1

    The cello before the 2nd phase theme gives that feeling of an old and pale warrior thriving to finish his one last quest, which fits Igon.

  • @TheWanderer1000000
    @TheWanderer1000000 Місяць тому +5

    The redemption part of the song I believe is not for Bayle but for Igon. He finally got to kill Bayle. It was Igon's song all along

  • @KungeNelson
    @KungeNelson Місяць тому +6

    Really feel like you should listen to the song with igons voicelines, he is the character who is the "calm within all the storm and madness" also, such a good npc

  • @lastrusomg
    @lastrusomg Місяць тому +7

    Man I can't wait to see you reacting the Promised Consort theme

  • @kalmkrew
    @kalmkrew Місяць тому +4

    Ngl man this sounds very brutal to me, there is even a part in thr intro where the cello mimics growling. Also, I still haven't seen anyone mention is but the intro sounds so similar to the tree sentinel motif

    • @alilweeb7684
      @alilweeb7684 Місяць тому

      The music even mimics him landing in the arena, i fucking LOVE this song and this boss

  • @MrDESACA
    @MrDESACA 22 години тому

    I absolutelly loves how Davi breaks down the music parts. And he pointed out something very interesting, that a lot of people that reacts to ER ost fails to understand about this music: The intimate parts of the song. It really brings me the vibe that Bayle might regret, deep down, his actions. Like...he can feel how lonely he became and how he might miss the old days with the dragons...very deep down. The end of the song brings me this vibe as well, like he died alone and probably felt very miserable at the end of the fight. Bayle shows a lot of rage, violence, lust of power, most parts of the music. But this ost always brings me the idea that, very deep down, he knows that he betrayed his kind, he knows the destruction he caused...and that hurts...and the only way to never face this pain is continuing to be angry and violent. "Im too corrupted and destroyed to ever go back".

  • @jameseddleman6944
    @jameseddleman6944 Місяць тому +4

    Love all your takes on notes, my mother was a music teacher and I have watched your episodes with her.
    I just draw and paint myself but I love orchestra.
    I hear the music and feel it
    but you help me listen to the notes and understand them.

  • @yanismoussaoui665
    @yanismoussaoui665 21 день тому +2

    i think the first phase is more dedicated to igon, while the second make u witness the terror incarnate by bayle

  • @naudio1806
    @naudio1806 Місяць тому +7

    the adventure ends with phase two

    • @Jormyyy
      @Jormyyy Місяць тому

      I think the adventure ends at thr start of phase 2. Bayle claims the theme as his own from Igon and thr Tarnished at the transition and revealing his true powers.

  • @Elder_Wyvern
    @Elder_Wyvern Місяць тому +1

    Bayle's soundtrack is so damn good, was never tired of it when I was learning his moveset, those violins at 0:37 always hype up and then when it goes silent on the phase transition is so good because that lets you take Bayle's phase transition all in while he's charging to materialize electricity wings, and the roar while doing it, nnnnnnnnngghh, so good.

  • @duro3666
    @duro3666 Місяць тому +1

    I love how you can hear Dragonlord Placidusax's motif at 1:31, shows that they have some sort of relation. Then you see the severed heads on Bayle's neck and talk to the npc's and the picture sets in. Best boss of the dlc with no doubt

  • @jonatanye3422
    @jonatanye3422 Місяць тому +10

    Top 5 without Igon. Top 3 with Igon

  • @theaveragegamer7221
    @theaveragegamer7221 28 днів тому

    Oh, Bayle... Your struggle ends here. You fight no more. May you finally rest your broken body.

  • @sevgadagenty9229
    @sevgadagenty9229 Місяць тому +1

    The introspection contrasted with heroism is Igon's character to a tee. He goes from full rage to hopeless despair and back in the blink of an eye.

  • @rukakuu_onedaybloodborne_PC
    @rukakuu_onedaybloodborne_PC Місяць тому +4

    This song is so good

  • @Rhodann
    @Rhodann 4 дні тому

    A thing I love about this track is that Bayle the Dread and Igon are, beyond a reasonable doubt, a loose reference to Balerion the Black Dread (who is a giant black dragon) and Aegon the Conqueror (who is his rider) from GRRM's A Song Of Ice and Fire series, though the reference is basically in name alone. To go with that, parts of this track, especially the choices of some parts of the melody and the instruments, feel like a bit of a tribute to Ramin Djawadi's themes for Game of Thrones' dragons and House Targaryen. This theme is much, much more perilous-sounding than those, though. Bayle is one of those fights where you feel like especially in phase 2, it's like you're fighting some kind of primal god. That in turn is really, really in theme with what dragons look like to common people in the Song of Ice and Fire universe. Considering Martin's involvement I'm pretty sure the name choices were very much intentional.

  • @mansgotplans
    @mansgotplans Місяць тому +1

    You NEED to listen to the version that someone made with the Igon voice lines put into it! It’s perfect and seems almost like at some parts it was intended
    Edit: The redemption is Igon, honestly the perspective is Igon even though he’s not even mandatory
    For example, the part at 9:30 is where his “CURSE YOU” lines would actually fit in perfect
    Another, at 12:48 you can almost hear Igon’s cry at the end of the fight, it just goes there so well with like he said the (when compared to the rest) quiet and gentle “you shall haunt me no longer” that follows

  • @ocean037
    @ocean037 Місяць тому +1

    This track seems to represent the ideas of victory, defeat and the need for a rematch. Both, in the present, with the "Bayle and Igon" situation and in the past with Bayle and Placidusax's history.
    This one fight is not about us, here we are a mere bystander, a secondary character.

  • @HealthyMaxwellRoth
    @HealthyMaxwellRoth Місяць тому

    Man, as a souls fan, this is the absolute first time the NPC lines made me feel like they were actually part of the track. Like listening to it whithout Igon's lines feels like an instrument is missing.
    (I'm being hyperbolic, obviously the track is fantastic as it is)

  • @Hallo-fh3nw
    @Hallo-fh3nw Місяць тому +5

    Thank you für the amazing Video!
    You should also listen to Romina, Saint of the Bud, also from Shadow of the Erdtree, it’s amazing, you will see!

  • @mobinulislam2127
    @mobinulislam2127 Місяць тому +1

    I think you should analyze slave knight gael track. It's actually one of the most popular tracks not just in dark souls 3 but also in entire soulsborne. It's interesting mainly because it's a three phase song and each phase feels different than the other and tells a completely different story and actually matches the character and the fight in every phase

  • @thescottishwookie7999
    @thescottishwookie7999 Місяць тому

    Bayle and Igon are a double reference of both Monster Hunter and Moby Dick, which is the coolest thing ever

  • @NemoTheShark
    @NemoTheShark Місяць тому +1

    Bayle's soundtrack is so good! Thanks for a really interesting analysis! I never got the heroic part, to me it always felt like a battle between raw animal power and short moments of intimacy and pain. You've given me additional perspective as usual, Davi.
    Also would like to request Saint of the Bud for another video.

  • @CrescentCrusader99
    @CrescentCrusader99 24 дні тому

    8:50 - 8:55 the best part of the theme. Sounds so heroic

  • @MLynchPhotograpy
    @MLynchPhotograpy Місяць тому +2

    This track sounds like it’s Igon’s to me. It sounds like his triumph over Bayle.
    I love this game. Fantastic analysis as always!

  • @Mecha_Neko
    @Mecha_Neko Місяць тому +1

    WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS!!
    Edit: I haven't seen many people bring it up, but it stood out to me that Igon is the only NPC summon ever to not do the generic summon standing animation, but instead spawns in already ready to go and screaming lol.

  • @jianno-reech
    @jianno-reech Місяць тому +1

    Great video man! Your reactions are actually interesting cus of the analysis, not a simple "wow such a great track". I have a suggestion though, there is this new Undertale fan-game which is really popular and really high quality and its even kinda approved by Toby Fox called Undertale: Yellow, and the soundtracks are really crazy and addicting there.. So if you'd want you could listen to some, there are a bunch, but I personally can suggest Trial by Fury or/and Retibution ❤

  • @mika2250
    @mika2250 Місяць тому

    Definitely sounds like this because of Igon it’s reinforced by the fact that the boss fight feels enhanced by igons participation if you summon him he motivated me through the fight and made it a lot more fun even if Bayle being a badass fight by itself

  • @ltrttl
    @ltrttl Місяць тому +1

    Take a look at Jori the Inquisitor theme from this DLC. It’s very underrated since he is a “filler” boss, but the theme is still amazing and very unique

  • @dartole7611
    @dartole7611 Місяць тому +1

    10:37 a sense of.... dread? :D

  • @felipefreitas8711
    @felipefreitas8711 3 дні тому

    First phase:
    "Yeaaah dragon fight lets fkin goooooo"
    Second phase:
    "Oh god, oh crap, ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun"

  • @hericlessicanso4261
    @hericlessicanso4261 26 днів тому +1

    Why it sounds heroic and tragic?
    -Well, we meet this guy on the road screaming in agony:
    >O-Oh… Ohh… O-Ohh! Ohhhhhh! The pain… The pain! My arms! My legs! Each lies a bloody ruin! Ah…
    >Bayle! Vile Bayle! O terror incarnate! There is life in me yet! I will soon feast upon your heart! Mark my words! You too shall know fear! Uaaaaargh!
    The man (Igon), was scared a angry at Bayle, he just lost a leg and the courage to face Bayle again. But before he dies, I sees a "true drake warrior", me/us, fighting and killing two drake dragons and he finds the courage to fight again and before he die, he hands over one of his fingers and ask for us, to summon him so he can have his revenge. The moment he get's summoned he comes screaming:
    >Curse you, Bayle!
    >I hereby vow! You will rue this day! Behold, a true drake warrior! And I, Igon! Your fears made flesh!
    >Solid of scale you might be, foul dragon... But I will riddle with holes your rotten hide! With a hail of harpoons! With every last drop of my being!

  • @proudlarry8225
    @proudlarry8225 Місяць тому +2

    Why did Bayle betray Placidusax? Why did Placidusax order the deletion of Bayle's children? Why does Bayle's lineage diverge so far from the ancient stone dragons that he "betrayed"? It seems to me that Bayle's only betrayal was evolving using the power of the crucible, violating the unchanging nature of the ancient stone dragons and their stewardship of the crucible of life. In that way, he is being unfairly persecuted and his violent betrayal of dragonlord Placidusax is justified. Igon is driven by honor and despair, but it seems to me that perhaps his lord of dragons may have just been using he and the drake knights as agents of a genocide, fitting that the rest of the DLC also deals with multiple genocides, it could be the theme.

  • @robertdavidblakely
    @robertdavidblakely Місяць тому +3

    Much like The Old Hunters, the base soundtrack for the game (Bloodborne/Elden Ring) was fantastic, but the DLC OSTs are absolutely magnificent

  • @watchagonnadu2869
    @watchagonnadu2869 19 днів тому +2

    The heroic part it's not about Bayle...
    IT'S I, IGON AND A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR, YOUR FEARS MADE FLESH!!!!111!1!!!!1

  • @Skrallizar
    @Skrallizar Місяць тому

    It's always fun to see other react to music like this and find bits and pieces of the story that the track is composed for. It's heroic for several reasons but, mainly because of an NPC questline, a guy named Igon that was severly wounded by this Bayle The Dread and this is his redemption, his revenge. Best yet, you don't get help from his body - it was ruined by Bayle - and instead you summon his soul, and after the fight when you return to where his real body is, Igon has passed on, haunted no longer by The Dread.
    The song having these slow downs and then back to speed is likely a reference to Bayle The Dread's physical form: He is a dragon, but severly wounded and scarred, only able to fly through draconic magic, becase he fought the Dragon Lord an age ago, only for both to be wounded and Bayle to flee with his life.
    I don't remember if it was Igon or Bayle, but either of them has their internal name of their ai directly reference Moby Dick, only this time the ending is different.

  • @joshualouw9506
    @joshualouw9506 Місяць тому +2

    Almost everything you learn about bayle both before and after you encounter him tries to paint a picture of a purely malevolent, tyrannical type of character, but I do think there are some clues throughout the game that would suggest there's a lot more to him than you're initially lead to believe. Bayle is a drake, not a true dragon like the ancient dragons, and you're told that bayle betrayed the ancient dragons and attempted to usurp the dragon lord, placidusax. Though you get this information from the dragon priestess, an ancient dragon herself turned human. So its definitely possible that she could be spinning the truth somewhat or just flat out lying. Fromsoft have always loved playing with the idea of history being written by the victors, and the ancient dragons we're known to look down on their lesser dragon descendants, so I think it may point to something more behind the supposed deception of bayle. Id say there are a fair few hints even outside of his soundrack that show a more nuanced character than a purely evil one.

  • @brandonjarvis1987
    @brandonjarvis1987 Місяць тому +6

    Phase 1: Igon's theme Phase 2: Bayle strikes back

  • @Jormyyy
    @Jormyyy Місяць тому

    I love how the first half of the song sounds like you (the Tarniahed) and Igon's theme, teaming up to hunt one of the greatest and powerful dragons in history. But the second half is when Bayle reveals his true power and the theme becomes his. Despair sets in as you face his revealed abilities and wonder if you and Igon can actually defeat dreaded drake.

  • @Sagara957
    @Sagara957 Місяць тому

    Amazing music theme

  • @serpent9423
    @serpent9423 Місяць тому

    To understand why the music sounds so heroic you need I listen to this track with Igon's voice lines

  • @something-g99
    @something-g99 Місяць тому +2

    I'll be here for Romina Saint of the Bud❤

  • @zachloveless1827
    @zachloveless1827 Місяць тому

    Dude, I love when you play the harmony chords with sheet music visible. I play by ear, but sometimes I have trouble identifying the left hand harmony. Your videos are a great place to go if I'm stuck. I would totally buy it if you ever pieced together a "Souls for Beginners" piano collection!

  • @zack_feldman
    @zack_feldman Місяць тому +1

    CURSE YOU BAYLE!
    I can’t wait till he hears Igon too.

  • @samermanasra8980
    @samermanasra8980 Місяць тому +3

    First phase sounds like Gael's second phase.

  • @thespearsaint9715
    @thespearsaint9715 Місяць тому +2

    Honestly, I can't hear the ost without Igon screaming in the back. He's part of the ost and you can't change my mind about it.

  • @waveburner1254
    @waveburner1254 Місяць тому +1

    You're helping a guy at the blink of death and defeat to kill his Arch nemesis, finally fulfilling his life long wish. You can also summon the restless spirit of said Person to help you in a final attempt to conquer this dread. That sounds pretty heroic to me.
    Also the voice actor for the person you're helping NAILED IT!
    For more background Story (beware spoilers)
    Bayle was the first Drake and direct rival to the Dragonlord Placidusax, the Oldest Dragon and first Elden Lord. Both combatants left the battle with major injuries. Placidusax has several Bitemarks, lost 3 heads and his tail got cut. Bayle on the other hand lost his left Leg and both of his wings with only the stumps of his bones remaining.
    You're beating the rival to the probably oldest being in the Lands Between.
    For the second Stage, He regains his wings once again ascending to the skies, wreaking havoc, attacking you with the Power of his fire and lightning almost scorching everything in his viscinity.

  • @pizza-for-mountains
    @pizza-for-mountains Місяць тому +1

    *WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS*

  • @senorkaktusz5940
    @senorkaktusz5940 Місяць тому

    You've been through basically all awesome new soundtracks of the dlc EXCEPT Those United Under A Common Cause. I highly reccommend that one.

  • @lazarogurgel714
    @lazarogurgel714 Місяць тому +12

    He needs to do the one with Igon's voice lines.

  • @azazelsiad3601
    @azazelsiad3601 Місяць тому +1

    “Bayle VILE Bayle, OH Terror incarnate, THERE IS LIFE IN ME YET, I WILL SOON FEAST UPON YOUR HEART MARK MY WORDS YOU TOO SHALL FEEL FEAR!!!”
    “Igon, piteous Igon, do you not REMEMBER? CONJURE YOUR PAST, HOW ONCE YOU WERE, WHEN FEAR WAS YET FOREIGN TO THEE!!”
    “CURSE YOU BAYYYLE!! I hereby vow you shall RUE this day! Behold, a true Drake Warrior, and I Igon, your fears made flesh!!!”
    “SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE FOUL DRAGON BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE!! WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS, WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!!!!” -Igon, True Drake Warrior.

  • @bruhmomen360
    @bruhmomen360 Місяць тому +1

    Bayle and Igon are references to Balerion and Aegon from game of thrones but the music and the instruments at least from phase 1 also sound a lot like GOT music

    • @golfprince1993
      @golfprince1993 Місяць тому

      I have the same feeling too, it sound alot like GoT ost

    • @daeronxi2804
      @daeronxi2804 2 дні тому

      ​@@golfprince1993Compare the end of Placidusax's theme and the start of Mother of Dragon's from GoT S2, it's the most one-to-one example I have found and yeah, it all seems GoT inspired which makes it 100x better 😂

  • @ammarabdulrazaq4721
    @ammarabdulrazaq4721 Місяць тому

    Igon is the true hero who this song symbolises

  • @player_v1.073
    @player_v1.073 Місяць тому

    Hey Davi, love the way you explain everything. Just a small suggestion, it'd be super helpful for lots of us music lovers if you could name the chords that you're analyzing. A little bit of music theory can be fun and interesting too right?

  • @kingdice6262
    @kingdice6262 Місяць тому

    I like to believe that the first phase of the music represents the heroic encounter Igon with Bayle, while the second phase rather shows who Bayle truly is.

  • @Perkerupper_
    @Perkerupper_ Місяць тому

    My interpretation is that the 1st phase is Igon's theme, or more accurately the theme of Igon's struggle with Bayle. The 2nd phase is all Bayle the Dread, forefather of the drakes. The vile, foul dragon of havoc and destruction.

  • @aimeejones9533
    @aimeejones9533 Місяць тому

    You're going to have a blast hearing this soundtrack with the very necessary voice acting that enhances the whole experience.

  • @stephanie_jjb
    @stephanie_jjb Місяць тому +1

    Bayle The Dread is the dragon responsible for injuring placidusax, a fight that also injured himself. Because of bayles actions an entire religion was built around hunting and executing his entire species as reparation. His kind are sometimes referred to as drake's, two-legged two-winged dragons compared to the four-legged four-winged ancient dragons.
    There is a ghost that you can talk to in the game that speaks about bayle very differently than any of the other NPCs that speak of him. Describing how he rose up against his oppressors. We don't have the full context of what happened between bayle and placidusax but I believe that other members of his race see him as heroic.

    • @azazelsiad3601
      @azazelsiad3601 Місяць тому

      It’s possible that the lesser kin see him as heroic but he’s also described as a tyrant as well potentially worse than Placidusax. And while Bayle may have been a driving force for the founding of the Drake warriors I’m not sure he was the cause as lore indicates that the Drake warriors hunt the drakes because of the ancient dragons disdain for their lesser kind because they are veiwed as a regression in their kind as they lack the stone scales that ancient dragons have and thusly aren’t immortal like them and that they hunt the lesser kind as a means to staving off this regression. Though it makes me wonder, how would Placidusax react if he realized that the method of dragon communion will only bring about another Bayle as Bayles heart indicates whoever consumes it will eventually be taken over by Bayle.

    • @stephanie_jjb
      @stephanie_jjb Місяць тому

      @@azazelsiad3601 yes but he's described as a tyrant by his enemies. Of course they would call him a tyrant, they literally worship his opposition as evidence with the ancient dragon priestess.

  • @brandondistel6722
    @brandondistel6722 Місяць тому

    I've been hearing bakes theme and it feels like a cautionary tale to me. Many parts I can't hear almost like a sing songy type thing

  • @Brinkalski
    @Brinkalski Місяць тому

    This has just got to be Igon's theme more than Bayle's. The battles, his injuries, the hopelessness and despair, and then resolution after defeating his enemy

  • @candle2005
    @candle2005 Місяць тому

    Best looking boss fight in the game, got goosepumps on the second phase

  • @raudoom3759
    @raudoom3759 Місяць тому +3

    CURSE YOU BAYLE! 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

  • @Akiraoff00
    @Akiraoff00 9 днів тому

    i realy the "evilish" parts of the music is for Bayle, the anger dread persona. In counterpart we have the other part of heroic and "weak" and "introspective" parts represents Igon.

  • @Iiiiii258
    @Iiiiii258 Місяць тому +1

    You shall hunt me, no longer…

  • @Ryoko41
    @Ryoko41 Місяць тому +1

    This song is great, but I found myself wishing it was a little more evil and scary. I was hoping for more emphasis on the dread part of Bayle the Dread. I do understand that this song is more about the triumph of Igon and the tarnished though so I get what they were going for.

  • @trodanyea
    @trodanyea Місяць тому +1

    CUUUUURRRRSSSEEEEE YOU BAYLE!!!!!!

  • @shadesmcf
    @shadesmcf Місяць тому

    Honestly as much as i love this track, all i can recall is a certain voice going "curse you Bayle!"

  • @diegohoracio4955
    @diegohoracio4955 Місяць тому

    CUUUUUUURSEEEEE YOUUU BAYYYYYLEEE

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 Місяць тому +1

    "What's so special about this Bayle guy?"
    Well, you'd be special too if you managed to tick off the Elden Lord of dragons so much he makes a whole system devoted SPECIFICALLY to killing you, after he's removed 3 of your 4 limbs.

  • @hiddenstick420
    @hiddenstick420 Місяць тому

    Make sure you check out the Putrescent knight theme i think it’s the most underrated theme