INDYREF 10 YEARS ON: Did Scotland blow its only chance of Independence?

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  • Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
  • We look at how the Yes Campaign was derailed in the final days of the IndyRef vote.
    Exclusive interviews with the then First Minister and SNP leader Alex Salmond, who was campaigning for a YES vote.Then we speak to the head of Better Together strategy, Blair McDougall, who tells us how the NO vote triumphed.
    Scottish Sun man Matt Bendoris relives the fascinating last hours of Alex Salmond on the day of the big vote as the SNP leader drank champagne and placed bets, thinking the YES Campaign had won.
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  • @annieaitken6591
    @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +20

    There is no such thing as "Scottish Labour" the party is registered in London with a branch office in Scotland. A freedom of information request cleared this up years ago and is easily obtained for yourself if you put in an FOI to the party. What you call Scottish labour is just the same party as the London party only they sit in Scottish Parliament pretending to be a different Scottish Party

    • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
      @RPMcMurphy-k9l 2 дні тому +7

      @@annieaitken6591 whilst on the subject of freedom of information snp still holding back Hamiltons report 🤣

    • @gavinmcinally8442
      @gavinmcinally8442 2 дні тому

      We know it's the same party , it's no secret, so what's your point?

    • @robfer5370
      @robfer5370 2 дні тому +1

      So what "Scottish Labour" will still do a better job for scotland and it's people, then the SNP ever did!! You can take that to the bank. Come back here in four years and you will see.

    • @robfer5370
      @robfer5370 2 дні тому

      @@gavinmcinally8442 He has no point, he's just trying to divide and sow distrust!

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому +2

      Wish we could have English parties.

  • @stunews2903
    @stunews2903 2 дні тому +21

    SNP idea of independence is taking orders from Brussels and handing our taxpayers money to give to the rest of the EU nations, how stupid is that?

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +6

      Alex Salmond is no longer part of the SNP and hasn't been for 10 yrs he has his own party This has been common knowledge for years now sigh and if you think its stupid to give money to the EU why is it ok for Scotland to have theirs taken by Westminster ? Rather hypocritical comment

    • @report-all-potholes-and-ro2712
      @report-all-potholes-and-ro2712 2 дні тому +8

      @@annieaitken6591 Scotland doesn't have their money 'taken' as you put it. We are a United Kingdom, all contributing to one cause and unity. Scotland does best out of all
      the nations and receives more than it gives. Just a pity the SNP and Greens squandered hundreds of billions of it during their time in office.

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +4

      @@report-all-potholes-and-ro2712 Not what the Governor of the bank of England says Read my other comments linked on here

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому

      @@annieaitken6591yes and of cause he always tells the truth ...

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      Very.

  • @daffytree2605
    @daffytree2605 2 дні тому +28

    As the old saying goes, "you pay peanuts you get monkeys".

    • @trevorhart545
      @trevorhart545 2 дні тому +5

      HENCE WHY SNP REFUSE T0 VISIT HARTLEP00L?

    • @charlestaylor9424
      @charlestaylor9424 2 дні тому +10

      But we're paying a fortune and get vegetables.

    • @daffytree2605
      @daffytree2605 2 дні тому +3

      @@charlestaylor9424 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Nice very nice

    • @robertlangley1664
      @robertlangley1664 День тому

      @@daffytree2605 monkeys with ginger hair and you know when they are lying there mouths move ,just a horrible little creature.

    • @Wasssssup-3
      @Wasssssup-3 День тому

      Jackasses

  • @davidoldboy5425
    @davidoldboy5425 2 дні тому +7

    Scotland didn't blow independence, the SNP certainly did - big style, no going back now, graft displaced trust, happening as I type in the current UK parliament.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      Scottish don’t want independence. They voted.

  • @machogrande
    @machogrande 2 дні тому +10

    The problem was that the Shetland islands would want their own independence.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому +1

      Why would that be a problem? ....

    • @craig361
      @craig361 День тому +4

      @@azillliasmith2734 they would take all of the oil fields with them

    • @aussie5941
      @aussie5941 День тому +2

      No they would, 12 miles around Shetland isn't all of the oil fields, tho you don't have a problem with England taking them.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому +5

      There were a LOT of problems.
      Mainly that the Scots didn’t want independence.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому +3

      @@craig361fyi - the oil fields are owned by the UK.
      Without English cash the oil field infrastructure would be no -existent. This is never discussed.

  • @fontolan942
    @fontolan942 2 дні тому +57

    The dream of being independently governed by Brussels is over.

    • @MichaelNelson-s1w
      @MichaelNelson-s1w 2 дні тому +3

      Only Belgium is Governed from Brussels. Only in the UK is there foreign Government subjugation.

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +3

      Alex Salmond does not want into the EU as the majority of Indy support agree EFTA is a much better choice with more control over your own country . Just like Brexit was for England but we cant have Scotland keeping their finances and making their own decisions that just isn't cricket eh

    • @MichaelNelson-s1w
      @MichaelNelson-s1w 2 дні тому +1

      @@annieaitken6591 Is that right and no doubt you can link us to the evidence that proves the majority want EFTA when only today in the National it was reported that a large majority of VOTERS in Scotland would support Independence with EU MEMBERSHIP.

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому

      @@MichaelNelson-s1w Yes we are used to them reporting what they think and not the truth . Only the SNP want into the EU NO other Indy supporting faction do and SNP are no longer considered the party of Independence and have lost the trust of the majority of voters since Sturgeon took over and other means have been set in action on the international stage . Its only a matter of time until everything changes and decolonisation takes over via international support.

    • @user-yh9sn1ye1j
      @user-yh9sn1ye1j 2 дні тому

      @@MichaelNelson-s1w majority gained through deviant harvies
      IAN DUNN MEMORIAL AWARD google that savil
      mon explain and justify askin 4 year old bairns how they 'swing'?

  •  2 дні тому +37

    The people of Scotland were not denied their right to choose, they chose to remain part of the UK. I guess it's hard to accept the democratic will of the people from those who want full control handed to themselves. What an utter mess the SNP have made of Scotland.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 День тому +4

      They didn't choose brexshit did they.

    • @w33btrash69
      @w33btrash69 День тому +4

      Unlike Indyref, Brexit wasn't a devolved referendum. Debunked. Move on.

    • @cujo5012
      @cujo5012 День тому +2

      ​@jake751 aye they did, did 100% of Scotland vote to remain in the uk?

    • @w33btrash69
      @w33btrash69 День тому

      @cujo5012 You're completely ignoring what I said.
      Do you know what "Devolved" referendums are? Do you know what "National" referendums are?

    • @cujo5012
      @cujo5012 День тому +4

      @w33btrash69 buddy I agree with you, I am sick of hearing Scotland voted to stay in the EU. We voted to remain part of the UK and the UK voted to leave the EU.

  • @marcushinton772
    @marcushinton772 2 дні тому +25

    I wonder how much money Sturgeon would have scammed if it had happened???

    • @jake751
      @jake751 День тому +3

      No where near as much as johnson or starmer.

    • @debbiegilmour6171
      @debbiegilmour6171 День тому

      Except that Sturgeon hasn't scammed any money.
      The whole operation against her is falling apart before our very eyes.
      Besides, it has all the hallmarks of a shallow British government attempt at discrediting a very popular leader in Scotland who caused support for independence to hit 60% in favour.

  • @Yournightmarelmao
    @Yournightmarelmao 2 дні тому +16

    No they voted NO so leave it alone and respect their decision

    • @neesense258
      @neesense258 День тому +1

      How s about you leave it alone and respect other peoples opinions over there Starlin

    • @Yournightmarelmao
      @Yournightmarelmao День тому +7

      @@neesense258 terrible response from someone who can't admit they lost

    • @neesense258
      @neesense258 День тому

      @@Yournightmarelmao your definitive statement is laughably ultimate as if time should stand still, as if this hasn’t been an agenda for hundreds of years

    • @Yournightmarelmao
      @Yournightmarelmao День тому +5

      @neesense258 if Scotland voted no I don't see how this debate can continue

    • @neesense258
      @neesense258 День тому +1

      @@Yournightmarelmao its not going away anytime soon it’d be wise to accept that

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 День тому +6

    It was a scam for the SNP to get very very rich at the expense of good Scottish people.

  • @cliffordhughes2128
    @cliffordhughes2128 День тому +13

    Give the English a vote to see if we want to be independent from Scotland . Then you'll be on your own 🇬🇧 🇬🇧

    • @markwilkie3677
      @markwilkie3677 День тому +1

      That's because you are clueless as to what Scotland actually contributes. Lets just say its quite astonishing how a non oil producing country can have one oil refinery, never mind Five!

    • @English_lifestyles
      @English_lifestyles День тому +1

      ​@@markwilkie3677Astounding that Scotland's largest employer is the British Government. Without the UK, Scotland would be a third world country, though under the SNP it's not gotten far off that.

  • @southernafricanboy4148
    @southernafricanboy4148 2 дні тому +6

    I now dislike Nicola Sturgeon with a passion. She destroyed the SNP due to her megalomaniac 😢😡😡

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 День тому +2

    Nope. However, the SNP may have blown its chance to be the vehicle for independence. Scotland and the SNP are NOT the same thing.

  • @Thrillhouse89
    @Thrillhouse89 День тому +2

    I'm Scottish living in England, if Scotland got their independence and re-joined the EU, I would be straight back there.

    • @JoanCarradine
      @JoanCarradine День тому +2

      Nice dream but it ain't gonna happen!

  • @vtechead1
    @vtechead1 2 дні тому +31

    Scotland didn’t blow any chance, they saw sense and voted NO.
    Not one of them could answer simple questions on currency, pensions, security etc etc, and they STILL cannot give a clear plan or explain how indie would ‘work’ for Scotland. Keeping on bleating if Norway can do it , so can we. Well Norway is rich selling oil and gas, the SNP want to stop fossil fuels ! So it’s back to shortbread and rasps.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 День тому +4

      I bet they would vote leave now. Who wants anything to do with England.

    • @cujo5012
      @cujo5012 День тому

      ​@jake751 who would want anything to do with corrupt Scotland

    • @debbiegilmour6171
      @debbiegilmour6171 День тому +1

      Clear answers are given every day to these questions, you just have to actually stop being lazy, stop listening to the English media and go and get the answers for yourself (though tbh, they're incredibly specific questions which have no meaning or even relevance in any wider context).

    • @cujo5012
      @cujo5012 День тому

      @debbiegilmour6171 read the so called white papers and they don't explain anything just full of "other countries do it" how about you stop listening to the snp propoganda

    • @joannemaxwell1639
      @joannemaxwell1639 День тому +3

      ​@@jake751
      Nope I would still never vote for independence.

  • @Booh833
    @Booh833 2 дні тому +9

    OMG!! You had your referendum.Get over it,we are and will remain part of the UK.

    • @martyncardno2172
      @martyncardno2172 День тому

      Because that's working out just a treat 🎉🎉🎉

    • @Booh833
      @Booh833 День тому

      @@martyncardno2172 It's foolish to believe everything would work out great if we had independence. Just like the UK government,there would be good and bad Scottish governments.Goodbye any chance of independence,now get on with it!!!

  • @mcooper593
    @mcooper593 День тому +1

    My uncle emigrated to Australia in 1974. He said he would return to Scotland only if Scotland got its independence. That was 50 years ago and we’re no nearer to Independence. All the years of hard work by Alex Salmond (a wonderful Leader) was ruined by Nicola Sturgeon, single handedly. Shame on her. I would love Scotland to be Independent but, tragically, I doubt it will happen unless Alex leads it.

  • @andyo8141
    @andyo8141 2 дні тому +2

    Let's be honest. The UK (mostly the English) shot itself in both feet by voting for populist BREXIT. However, the Scots saved Scotland by rejecting populist independence. Oil and gas would not have bankrolled an isolated Scotland, and the EU (particularly Spain & Hungary) would never allow Scotland to join their club.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      Brexit was a good decision.
      None of us voted for EU leadership because it’s a dictatorship. We have our own political issues here!

  • @annieaitken6591
    @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +10

    Ireland is "allowed" a ref every 7 yrs. Why not Scotland ? why do they hold on to Scotland so tightly I wonder ?🤔

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +9

      Well, it's not for money.😂

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +7

      @@karenrobinson129 Schrödinger's Scotland Too poor to be Independent they say whilst reporting that Scotland's resources are a lifeline for UK. Do people like you not pay attention or just live in a little world of their own opinions were facts about Scotland's wealth are ignored

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +4

      @annieaitken6591 Oh, you mean Like the wind Swinney explained was the wrong kind of wind?
      Are you referring to oil that SNP and Greens want to stop?
      If we don't need the consequential, please explain why we have the hat out every week at Westminster.

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +4

      @annieaitken6591 Oh,I'm guessing you are obviously in the know. Can you please tell me where the billions in covid relief money are? Audit Scotland has asked the SNP, and they stated they didn't keep receipts and records. 😁

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому

      @@karenrobinson129 Wouldn't know I am not an SNP supporter or a follower. They don't have many of those left now . I suppose you are in the know about what the Unionist Government did during the pandemic with all the scams to pocket money like the dodgy ppe, Michelle Mone etc etc ?

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 День тому +6

    A NO vote allowed the english to keep a boot on the Scottish throat

    • @gavinmcinally8442
      @gavinmcinally8442 День тому

      @@folksinger2100 boo hoo you. Boot,throat? Really. Always the other guys fault, victim mentality gets you exactly where you are.

    • @bencruzar7135
      @bencruzar7135 День тому

      That's the monarchy, they have a boot on England aswell. Their not wanted in their current form. Bunch of pedos.

    • @CO-yy2rv
      @CO-yy2rv День тому +5

      Truthfully most English people couldn't care less, Scotland has less population than Yorkshire. Do what u want 😂

    • @bencruzar7135
      @bencruzar7135 День тому

      @@CO-yy2rv Yorkshire has half of India in it tho it's not a fair count.

    • @bear1245
      @bear1245 День тому

      Can we have our subsides back

  • @grahamnewton4381
    @grahamnewton4381 День тому +1

    Scotland voted SNP and look what they got. So they voted mostly Labour, who immediately cancelled their oil. They won’t vote Tory so try Reform. They can’t do any worse.

  • @unionjackjackson4352
    @unionjackjackson4352 2 дні тому +5

    That choice saved Scotland. Given how the snp has run Scotland so far, imagine how much worse it would be without the uk support.
    Scotland is still decades away from being ready for independence.
    The snp has done absolutely nothing to prepare for it at all.
    Scotland will need a currency, stable economy, trade deals ready to sign, a budget for healthcare, education, policing, defence, state benefits, infrastructure and investment ready to go using only the money from Scotland alone as there will be no more funding from the uk.
    Keep in mind that if the snp are in power when Scotland becomes independent Shetland and Orkney will declare their own independence from Scotland taking with them the large percentage of the oil fields.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      A lot of the oil fields are British owned. All the infrastructure is 🤷🏽‍♂️
      The oil argument is weak. Especially when they wouldn’t even have a currency if they became independent 😅

  • @georgeblackley6028
    @georgeblackley6028 День тому +2

    The UK is not a prison and any member can freely work towards independence if they choose. If England wanted independence I dont think the rest of the UK could prevent it.

    • @Big_Gaz_1
      @Big_Gaz_1 День тому

      The govt wouldn't let them. Same as the excuse there was no oil left in Scotland. if that was the case then why did they not cut Scotland loose? oh yeah, they "conveniently" found two major oil/gas fields after the Indy vote failed. No use now though as they won't issue licences...

    • @ZuulGatekeeper
      @ZuulGatekeeper День тому

      @@Big_Gaz_1 Nobody but the Scottish can choose to leave the UK. It's not a prison the English, Welsh & Northern Irish have no say in the matter. SNP got a mandate from the people had a referendum & the majority voted no. As for the Oil it's a tiny contributor to the overall UK economy hell the computer games & hairdressing sectors are bigger in terms of the billions they contribute. It's not Saudi Arabia north sea oil has the highest extraction costs in the world it makes little profit per barrel for the UK & it's production is in terminal decline from 2.7 million barrels per day 20 years ago to around 700,000 today. The major fields have all been depleted & new ones Rosebank & Jackdaw have only a few million barrels in them. Tapping them is more about energy security than making profit & they won't last more than a few years before they're also depleted nor will it prevent overall production decline in 10 to 20 years I doubt there will be any fields still active.

  • @robfer5370
    @robfer5370 2 дні тому +2

    LOL my god, these people. Keep asking and doing an independence vote until they get the answer they want.... That is not how it works..... 🙄 No, No, No, No, No, No, Yes. Ok now we stop.... Fricking Ridiculous 🤡😒

  • @Anglo-Wasp
    @Anglo-Wasp День тому +3

    Independence needed for England the British union is no good 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍

    • @niamhturner1451
      @niamhturner1451 День тому +1

      let Wales, Scotland, Cornwall, Yorkshire, and the 6 counties of Ireland free then :3

    • @Big_Gaz_1
      @Big_Gaz_1 День тому

      Go for it. i'm sure there are plenty of Scots supporting you

    • @Anglo-Wasp
      @Anglo-Wasp День тому

      @@niamhturner1451 that’s the Union not England plus Yorkshire is part of England

  • @Mattherat15
    @Mattherat15 День тому +11

    I'm a Scottish man living in England we were separated with a Roman wall we're to small an island to be separated let's stand together ❤

    • @gavinmcinally8442
      @gavinmcinally8442 День тому +4

      @@Mattherat15 800,000 scots left for a better life in England, no one ever came back😢

    • @lawts1240
      @lawts1240 День тому +2

      Very well said. 👍

  • @shirleyswaine4701
    @shirleyswaine4701 2 дні тому +7

    FGS, if there's another referendum, let it involve the whole UK - which it should anyway - I think Scotland will get its independence then.

    • @Robert_90dayfianceUK
      @Robert_90dayfianceUK 2 дні тому +1

      If only, Westminster would never allow it and risk losing their cash cow.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому

      You don't understand that not all of Scotland wants independence or that it is not being held hostage by England 🙄

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому +1

      @@Robert_90dayfianceUKwhat cash does Westminster get from Scotland....

    • @Robert_90dayfianceUK
      @Robert_90dayfianceUK 2 дні тому +3

      @@azillliasmith2734 try doing some unbiased research, it's not hard to get even a basic good idea and understanding of the very obvious reasons Westminster won't let us go 😉

    • @robfer5370
      @robfer5370 2 дні тому

      @@Robert_90dayfianceUK "Westminster won't let us go" ROFL do you hear yourself... My god 🙄you should stay away from the dark corners of the interwebs 🤡

  • @geoffwright9570
    @geoffwright9570 2 дні тому +20

    Think scotland.made the right decision especially when you consider the performance of the snp.

    • @jake751
      @jake751 День тому

      Oh and conservative/ labour are worth a vote 😂😂

    • @debbiegilmour6171
      @debbiegilmour6171 День тому

      Scotland would have been an independent country.
      Do you genuinely not understand how independence changes the whole social and political paradigm in Scotland? There likely wouldn't even have been an SNP by now in an independent Scotland.

  • @user-ug8wx5er1w
    @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому +1

    They never had a chance. It would ruin Scotland.
    They don’t even know what currency they would use 😂

  • @moikey50
    @moikey50 2 дні тому +16

    Thank god we vetoed independence. We would be bankrupt by now. Once in a generation vote, done and dusted , move on people.

    • @Faliat
      @Faliat День тому +1

      Except that next generation is creeping up ever closer and closer.

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      @@Faliatyep. Another 40 years or so.

    • @Faliat
      @Faliat 4 години тому

      @@user-ug8wx5er1w 15-25 years is more like a generation and there's already been 10.

  • @LoneWelshDruid
    @LoneWelshDruid День тому +1

    There was a vote in Wales every couple of years on devolution until it went through. The independents will eventually wear the Scots down no doubt.

  • @alasdairfinlayson
    @alasdairfinlayson 2 дні тому +8

    It started as a stupid idea, ran for seventeen years as a stupid idea, and will always be a stupid idea.
    Something that thankfully the whole of Scotland now realises.

  • @georgekennedy2496
    @georgekennedy2496 2 дні тому +13

    Eck gee us a break We’ve just removed 39 MPs from 48 MPs. Yep that’s 9 left and guess what there will be a clear out at the Holyrood elections. We are done with this crap Scotland will now break the political Mould and vote for REFORM we’ve nothing to lose none of the other parties have anything to offer anymore so watch this space.

    • @Capybara1050
      @Capybara1050 2 дні тому +3

      Give me one good reason why any self respecting Scot would vote for an English nationalist party?

    • @gavinmcinally8442
      @gavinmcinally8442 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@Capybara1050to curb illegal imagration.

  • @aussie5941
    @aussie5941 День тому +1

    It was an indyref, not an election for SNP rule.

  • @margaretrobertson-mi2iz
    @margaretrobertson-mi2iz 2 дні тому +5

    That young woman who voted"No" was correct!!!

    • @TheHonestJock
      @TheHonestJock 2 дні тому +4

      The one that regretted it? yes she is right, it was an atrocious choice and all the lies that project fear spread have now been uncovered, we are dumped out of europe, we have suffered more than a decade of austerity, the jobs that were "at risk" by independence have been lost in the union regardless and the oil that was "about to run out" has recently had investment well into 2050

  • @debbiegilmour6171
    @debbiegilmour6171 День тому +1

    The answer to the headline is "No".

  • @CO-yy2rv
    @CO-yy2rv День тому

    Give the English a vote. We don't want or need Scotland or N Ireland. Both drains on public money.

  • @drsyn9616
    @drsyn9616 День тому +2

    Getting ruled over by France instead of England is not independence 😂😂😂

    • @user-ug8wx5er1w
      @user-ug8wx5er1w День тому

      England don’t even have representation! What do you mean??

  • @margaretferrie5802
    @margaretferrie5802 2 дні тому +15

    scotland voted no...end of

    • @geomac650
      @geomac650 2 дні тому +2

      Its never going to end

  • @Anic978
    @Anic978 2 дні тому +6

    Scotland did not 'blow' anything, Scotland voted NO to independence, and like before the referendum, every parliamentary vote since has resulted in more people voting for pro union parties conservative, labour, liberal democrat than have voted for the SNP or Greens, there has never been, nor will there ever be a majority in favour of independence in Scotland, sick and tired of the media asserting that the SNP's hold over holyrood or westminster representatives is anything other than the result of a fractured unionist voter base. They held power by default not popular vote.

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +2

      Why are SNP in power for all these years then if more people vote for Unionist parties ?

  • @dannycarter3647
    @dannycarter3647 2 дні тому +5

    Oh bore off. Can we please stock talking about Scottish independence and move on to things that matter.

  • @aldorfc220
    @aldorfc220 2 дні тому +11

    We done this back in 2014 and ppl vote to stay the ones it didn't still crying because they never got there way

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +2

      They always will. I know some who are still crying.😊

    • @aldorfc220
      @aldorfc220 2 дні тому +2

      @@karenrobinson129 happen to be my local area Fife to say no lol

    • @annieaitken6591
      @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому

      @@karenrobinson129 Democracy never stops Different UK from 2014 Scots were lied to with The Vow, Pensions, You will be forced out of the EU. So many short memories No wonder politicians are robbing us all blind and privatising the NHS whilst freezing pensioners and claiming everything on expenses over and above their salary, 50 quid a day breakfast allowance and 300 quid a day to sit in the lords sigh

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому

      @@aldorfc220 Where I lived at the voted Yes.😂😂😂😂
      I'm still smiling. 😂

  • @Twitcher999
    @Twitcher999 День тому +2

    All that money disappeared and all they had to show for it was a camper van parked on Nicola Sturgeon’s mother-in-law’s drive 😂

  • @MrHateneds
    @MrHateneds День тому +1

    We would be a 3rd world country

  • @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058
    @jakkuwolfinsomnia8058 День тому +1

    I would love to see Scotland independent but the economy is not ready for that. It’s not self-sufficient, to go independent is to really either have the same standards as a third world country until they build their wealth or actually become, economically, equal to a third world country.
    Scotland has huge potential, but potential is meaningless without investment and development

  • @jimweights8908
    @jimweights8908 День тому +2

    You guys dodged a massive bullet - as an English man I am glad you stayed.

  • @bencruzar7135
    @bencruzar7135 День тому +2

    Scotland can claim independence whenever they want.

    • @SpaceHCowboy
      @SpaceHCowboy День тому

      @@bencruzar7135 Claim aww ye want, doesn't make it so.
      Scottish, British and proud!

  • @annieaitken6591
    @annieaitken6591 2 дні тому +2

    If you need permission to be "allowed" to do something you are not a partner nor an equal you are dominated

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +7

      Allowed? We voted No.
      We then voted to leave the EU.
      Explain the lack of democracy please. I do understand quite a few
      Scottish people are undemocratic and refuse to accept either of these outcomes. Just children stamping their feet really.

    • @SpaceHCowboy
      @SpaceHCowboy 2 дні тому +7

      ​@@karenrobinson129As a fellow Brit/Scotsman I absolutely agree.
      The majority of which you mention are the majority of SNP voters.
      Like children that knew the rules, played the game, lost and still shout about losing.
      Alas, I'm still proud to be part of the UK.
      God bless the United Kingdom and God save the King
      🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +4

      @@SpaceHCowboy Yup. Them and the greens

    • @SpaceHCowboy
      @SpaceHCowboy 2 дні тому +4

      @@karenrobinson129 You know it!

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +2

      @@SpaceHCowboy 😁😆

  • @benjiskitts
    @benjiskitts 2 дні тому +8

    England give Scotland 8 billion per year to subsidise there economy without it they would eventually perish 😂. So how can they be independent?

  • @two20john
    @two20john 2 дні тому +4

    If Scotland had voted for independence would Cameron have had the nerve to go through with a Brexit referendum, I think not. So we could be living in a world where Scotland is independent, and part of the European Union, as are England, Wales, and Northern Ireland. I'd vote for that over this any day.

    • @theolderigetthewrongbitget4746
      @theolderigetthewrongbitget4746 2 дні тому +2

      Would Scotland not have to join the EU as it was now separate from the UK?

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +4

      😂😂😂😂
      Being ruled by the EU.

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +3

      ​Yup,and they said No!😂😂😂

    • @NathanielGarro-ru7du
      @NathanielGarro-ru7du 2 дні тому +4

      Scotland need a 100% agreement from the rest of the EU to join but would never get that from Spain and Germany and others who had regions demanding independence. They actually stated that recognising a country that had pushed through independence would mean they would have to recognise their own regions demanding independence. Scotland would NEVER get 100% agreement which meant they would never get membership.

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +3

      @NathanielGarro-ru7du I can't remember what the SNP had projected on the rocks of France, and the EU said within minutes, it wasn't us.😂😂😂😂😂
      The SNP looked like the utter fools they are.

  • @neilmclean9752
    @neilmclean9752 2 дні тому +1

    Nope they sensibly voted against it basically!!

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 День тому

    Sounds like Blair McDougall also voted NO to EU Membership, again damaging Scotland

  • @yvonnesmith2115
    @yvonnesmith2115 2 дні тому +7

    No we dodged a bullet. X

  • @jstelzner
    @jstelzner День тому +1

    Women get abused on the internet for pictures of their cat I'm surprised that you're surprised!

  • @TheHonestJock
    @TheHonestJock 2 дні тому +5

    10 years on since the biggest political dupe ever achieved, we had the 3 amigos scurrying up to Scotland to beg us to stay, to sign "The Vow" and promise us everything then for the very morning of the result for that to be almost entirely reneged upon, we are out of the EU anyway, the jobs that westminster threatened were lost anyway, we have had a decade of austerity anyway, we have seen that oil is being relied upon by the UK Gov into 2050, the pensioners are being savaged anyway, our funding has been slashed anyway.
    The irony of McDougall claiming that YES said nothing would change but everything would change when that is exactly what the NO campaign said and have now done, they promised that Scotland would be at the heart of the UK, that Scotland would lead the UK, that tripe died on the morning of the results.
    People were duped, they were scaremongered and assaulted with threats and doom, they fell for it.

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому

      I agree! The SNP lied the face off everyone.

    • @Robert_90dayfianceUK
      @Robert_90dayfianceUK 2 дні тому +1

      Absolutely this, and some other lesser factors.

    • @nighttrain1236
      @nighttrain1236 2 дні тому +4

      If you'd voted Yes you would have been out of the EU anyway. The SNPs "plan" could have been written on the back of a postage stamp.

    • @Robert_90dayfianceUK
      @Robert_90dayfianceUK 2 дні тому +1

      @@nighttrain1236 whereas the unionist lies could have filled a phone book 😉

    • @nighttrain1236
      @nighttrain1236 2 дні тому +2

      @@Robert_90dayfianceUK Well staying in the EU wasn't a promise that could be kept but nobody knew what would happen in 2016 though. The facts are still that the SNP's independence plan made the Brexit plan look well thought out and thorough. Nobody knew what Independence looked like, especially in terms of money. Scotland may not have been able to raise a penny of Sovereign debt.

  • @CO-yy2rv
    @CO-yy2rv День тому +2

    Yes. SNP are a joke 😂

  • @folksinger2100
    @folksinger2100 День тому +2

    Once in a lifetime, who's lifetime though?

  • @Paul-ow8fh
    @Paul-ow8fh 2 дні тому +2

    PAUL🇬🇧 I'm from Merseyside. I'm Christian and British. I've won the lottery of life. If the Lord Jesus Christ was to say to me. Look East it would be to Israel. This far and no further.

  • @Halen0224
    @Halen0224 2 дні тому +20

    Scotland will never be able to go it alone and it’s honestly been proved. And its honestly boring now.

    • @stewartgardiner3578
      @stewartgardiner3578 2 дні тому

      Scottish people have no spirituality. No soul for Scotland or it's people.

    • @TheHonestJock
      @TheHonestJock 2 дні тому +3

      lmfao Scotland cant but Trinidad and Tobago can. Get a grip.

    • @Halen0224
      @Halen0224 2 дні тому +1

      @@TheHonestJock rubbish and boring you are the one that need to get a grip and also get the boring chip off your shoulder 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

    • @Halen0224
      @Halen0224 2 дні тому +7

      @@TheHonestJock 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

    • @aussie5941
      @aussie5941 День тому

      Ireland doing better with less resources. Why are Hoosejocks so dishonest. Just tell folk you like to be ruled by the English. Pit your kneepads on and kneel to your Overlords.

  • @JoanCarradine
    @JoanCarradine День тому +1

    It never happened as fortunately there were sufficient people smart enough to realise leaving their lives and welfare to a bunch of incompetent and shady characters would be an insane idea!

  • @RichardGray-p3u
    @RichardGray-p3u 2 дні тому +1

    I think they have a better chance of independence now Keir Starmer is PM and good luck to them 💔

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому +1

      Are you Scottish?. Lots of Americans think Scotland desperate to gain "freedom" from England .... stop watching Braveheart......

  • @cdeford2
    @cdeford2 День тому

    People shouldn't be ashamed - or be made to feel ashamed - whichever way they voted. It's a shame that some people think otherwise.

  • @andrews6341
    @andrews6341 День тому +1

    Most Scots never wanted indy deep down anyways. Even less so now. Especially when they say they want to join another union , hardly indy is it. It will never happen again in the next 100 plus years , that is if the earth is still around which is unlikely.

  • @PatrickLee-h1y
    @PatrickLee-h1y 2 дні тому +1

    Their chance in 2014 "was a rare and precious moment in the history of Scotland a once in a generation opportunity or to chart a better way". Alex Salmond's own words. When question by Andrew Marr what he meant by a generation, he replied about the same time between the two devoloution referenda about 18years. So it's 10 years down and at least 8 to go.
    The 2013 White Paper for the 2014 indyref also written by Salmond stated that there was " no arrangement for another referendum for independence" and that" only a majority vote for Yes would give certainty that Scotland would be independent".
    We all know what happened in 2014. The only trouble is that Alba and the SNP don't like it when the vote doesn't go their way.
    So for the foreseeable future NAE CHANCE.

  • @XENONEOMORPH1979
    @XENONEOMORPH1979 2 дні тому

    you get one vote take the time for your choice to be made and accept that vote as it is your vote , what some scots thought was England would stay in the eu union that we never voted on thank you to john major .
    People should have a right to leave the eec or the eu union , they were feeding off us like leeches.
    When a lorry came here by the eu and were fined for speeding they never paid for their tickets .
    They were also getting free nhs while other eu countries have to pay for hospital treatment

  • @stevenchan6659
    @stevenchan6659 День тому +1

    If they did get independence I wonder if they would be a rejoin the union movement now given the state of scotlands financial position now

  • @tannersmith8205
    @tannersmith8205 День тому +1

    No an Independent Scotland would be a disaster.

    • @markwilkie3677
      @markwilkie3677 День тому +1

      Aye, for England. Scotland constitutes almost two thirds of UK land and maritime territory!

  • @LPCLASSICAL
    @LPCLASSICAL День тому

    I moved up to Kilmarnock from England in 2022. The very first day I was here I heard some bagpipes and saw a massive saltire on a long pole and in front of that I saw the figure of Alex Salmond. I have a photo.
    Great place to live Scotland BTW - rents are like half what they are in England. No complaints here.

  • @robertyoung8785
    @robertyoung8785 2 дні тому +6

    Well it certainly didn't help with English media's propaganda against independence.

    • @karenrobinson129
      @karenrobinson129 2 дні тому +4

      What lies?

    • @robertyoung8785
      @robertyoung8785 2 дні тому

      @@karenrobinson129 , what lies, try actually reading the English media's propaganda.

  • @arikhanaalffie
    @arikhanaalffie День тому +4

    Scotland must be independent.

  • @MrJohn5ton
    @MrJohn5ton День тому

    Only Glasgow voted leave.

  • @Wasssssup-3
    @Wasssssup-3 День тому

    Only when every Scottish person wants independence will we get it but not under s.n.p tories or labour

  • @charlestaylor9424
    @charlestaylor9424 2 дні тому +9

    No Scotland saved itself from disaster.

    • @MichaelNelson-s1w
      @MichaelNelson-s1w 2 дні тому +4

      Are you awake today have you been in a coma since 2014? Maybe you live in a monastery?

    • @TheHonestJock
      @TheHonestJock 2 дні тому +4

      Oh yes, things are going absolutely amazing in the union right enough lmfao

    • @charlestaylor9424
      @charlestaylor9424 2 дні тому

      @@TheHonestJock I admit at the moment it's hard to tell whether the SNP are worse than Labour.

  • @wotdoesthisbuttondo
    @wotdoesthisbuttondo 2 дні тому +3

    3:13, brainwashed and given a bogus degree.

    • @Red_Crows
      @Red_Crows День тому +1

      Nah. She was brainwashed as a child by her parents when she voted no. Grew up, left home and realised the disaster of that choice.

  • @davidcopson5800
    @davidcopson5800 День тому

    Blame the Fish Mafia!

  • @auser8374
    @auser8374 День тому +2

    😂😂 I hope I live long enough to see what some Scots call 'independence'!

  • @ac583
    @ac583 День тому

    the problem with the vote is how it was structured. scotland should have had a referendum to negotiate the possible terms of separation with london. london would effectively be forced to negotiate to keep scotland in, and then after some fixed period after that (say, 2 years), scotland should have been able to vote again whether to go independent based on those terms. this would have been a win-win-win for democracy and scotland, whatever the outcome.

  • @ac583
    @ac583 День тому +1

    If scotland really is this poor, corrupt, economically desolate, dependent, drug-addled place that the english people who have come to this comment section claim it to be, then we must ask why THEY aren't pushing for scottish independence? moreover, why is it exactly the brexiteers who come here arguing against exactly opposite of the same that they argued for brexit?

  • @johnmasterson2534
    @johnmasterson2534 День тому

    The future of the UK lies in the concept of 3 federal states like Australia...with England Wales and Scotland with their own parliaments and a federal govt in the middle of England.
    Ireland will go it's own way.brexit is still a stumbling block as to the future of UK future in many ways..finally yes if you in Scotland really want to be independent. Then go for it.

  • @UnderAGlassMetropolis
    @UnderAGlassMetropolis День тому +8

    🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧

  • @emiliefreakinbrown1812
    @emiliefreakinbrown1812 День тому +2

    Well everything that was promised to is if we voyed to stay clearly were LIES. It astounds me that there are people who STILL believe we are better together- just because they dont like snp....

  • @w33btrash69
    @w33btrash69 День тому

    Yes.
    Next.

  • @stephenburnside9179
    @stephenburnside9179 2 дні тому

    Shameless book plug. Tick. It was all "Civic & Joyous". Tick.

  • @RPMcMurphy-k9l
    @RPMcMurphy-k9l 2 дні тому +2

    Close shave

  • @shymillz6356
    @shymillz6356 2 дні тому +1

    72 years 🤔

  • @paulmitchell3131
    @paulmitchell3131 День тому

    She was quite shouty so I can imagine she would be quite loud about it ..

  • @FayFairley-hi3zu
    @FayFairley-hi3zu День тому

    Definitely why would we want any of these people anywhere near government? Had enough of independence!

  • @craigrothwell6144
    @craigrothwell6144 День тому

    Let the English have a vote and Scotland WILL get their Independence, But NOT from the E.U. :)

  • @alan4yt
    @alan4yt День тому +1

    Scotland govenment run by a forign national non Christian how could that happen. A separate scotland would have led eventually to an Islamic demand for an Islamic scotland - sorry but its true.

  • @wizzyno1566
    @wizzyno1566 День тому

    3:26 thats not wht full circle means...

  • @Christine-hr8in
    @Christine-hr8in День тому

    Yes..... 😑

  • @Jackie-ji2sj
    @Jackie-ji2sj 2 дні тому +1

    BLOODY HOPE NOT! CMON SCOTLAND, YOU KEEP MOANING ABOUT PARTING FROM ENGLAND. AS AN ENGLISHMAN, JUST DO IT AND EVERYBODY UP THERE AND DOWN HERE WILL BE HAPPY ❤

    • @SpaceHCowboy
      @SpaceHCowboy 2 дні тому +1

      Turn caps lock off.
      Jeez....

    • @Halen0224
      @Halen0224 2 дні тому +1

      @@Jackie-ji2sj 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 2 дні тому +2

      They would've had a much better chance had wee nippy and her band of merry thieves not shafted Scotland....I kind of want us to stay together...... but I also want what's best for Scotland🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿❤️🌹

  • @lordcornwallis2
    @lordcornwallis2 День тому

    thank god i voted NO

  • @Yonimangaዮኒማኛ
    @Yonimangaዮኒማኛ 2 дні тому

    😮😮

  • @thedangler1754
    @thedangler1754 День тому

    If independence had been gained, Scotland would have been ruled by Queen Nicola, and King Peter, Prime Minister Useless, Chancellor Blackfoot, Foreign Minister Robertson (subject to his availability) plus a few more questionables.

  • @calumrfc90
    @calumrfc90 День тому

    "once in a lifetime vote" Remember when they said that? 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇬🇧