22 Creedmoor vs Big Bucks--I'm skeptical, but I'll try anything once.
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Merry Christmas! Remember the Savior taught “Judge not that ye be not judged.” I think that goes for opinions on a first time hunter too.
Your words are true and my hunting brother, no animal was wounded or suffered a lingering death and a most valuable lesson was learned never to be duplicated again. I would truly appreciate further videos on Sam's shooting improvement. I would suggest Straight Jacket Armory shooting classes in Evanston Wyoming. Contact Nick Arnold. Very reasonable and real down too earth skills can be learned. Best two days I've spent on range except when I shot competitive.
Amen
We are Brothers in the faith
Well done for spending time with Sammy on a hunt. He will always remember this and appreciate it. (And have a super cool story to share with his friends!)
I can’t imagine being left eye dominant and then learning to shoot left handed !!! I know it can be done but Sammy learned that very quickly !! Sprinkle in a Healthy dose of Buck Fever and its really amazing he was able to put Big Husky on the ground !!! Very Well Done Indeed !!!
I loved how patient you guys were with your nephew's first time buck as he was soaking it all in! That's great teaching and a great lifetime experience he will never forget!
My son and I used a 22 Creedmoor on 4 deer this year, worked great. One was a mature Muley buck, and my son got a nice 4x4 whitetail.
Where did you get your rifle from? Doesn’t look like there are a lot of options?
I had a Bergara B14 in 6.5 creed that I had Preferred Barrel Blanks spin off the barrel and put on a pre-fit 22 Creed for me. I just sent in the barreled action and they did the rest. Not a lot of factory options at the moment…Horizon Firearms and Fierce Firearms are the two main ones doing off the shelf “factory” rifles that I know of. I saw a handful of new Fierce 22 creed sitting on the rack at Scheels last week…first time I’ve seen one in any store.
WOW! What a first time hunting story! Almost nobody gets 3 chances on a good size buck like that. Congrats Sam, the Lord was looking out for you on this one
Hunting w a can on your rifle is a game changer, although they get spooked by the miss the spot wasn't ruined so he was able to find it in close proximity to each shot. Really wish my state wasn't run by fear of the unknown rather than experienced legislators.
Well done Sammy !!! Keep the faith and keep on Hunting !! It is rare to get three encounters with one buck, However, That’s the magic of hunting deer ! One never knows what will happen, its magical !!!
Congrats to the nephew! Brings me joy to see that. Hunting brings people together in a way many other hobbies and passions cannot do. Keep it ip with the videos. By far my favorite channel! Great educational content, entertainment, and motivation. Thank you
Nice work, guys. I used to have a Tikka M55 chambered for 22-250. I had some handloads done for me using 53 grain Barnes x bullet. The idea was to have my son use it to learn. I took it out one day after red deer, bingo. Killed a red hind at 250 mtrs with a heart lung shot. Awesome little rifle.
Love your videos.
Merry Xmas to you guys from New Zealand.
I killed a lot of game with a .243 in my teens and 20s with 85 gr barnes running about that same 2900-3000 range of speed. It works damn well with proper shot placement. Most would crumble on the spot and all you would see is a head flop or two. Haven't looked at a ballistic chart but I would suspect that skinnier bullet at the same weight would travel better due to bc at extended distances. Also congrats on figuring out what was going on with the nephew and getting him a deer.
That seems a bit conservative. I shoot an 80 gn TTSX from my 250 Savage at around 3250 fps, and an 88 gn Sierra right at 3000 fps. ( Box says 87 gn but they weigh 88 gn)
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 honestly, it probably is. I handloaded to the high end of allowable charge cause that's what the rifle liked. It was a older savage 110 with a 24" barrel and I was poor, so I didn't own a chrono. I just shot it at various ranges to figure out drop after I paced out the distance (aka Ididn'town a range fimder either). Those rounds could have been going well in excess of 3k for all I know out of a .243 but she shot very flat and you could cover a 5 shot group at 100 with a nickle so I was happy. 🤷♂️
BC... sectional density improves, and THEN that sectional density will improve the BC.
@arthurshingler2025 ... I get the distinct impression you're the person in a group chat who corrects people's thier, there, they're usage....
Same but with a 100gr Nosler partition.
That eye dominance hiccup is hilarious. When I first started hunting the guy who taught me to hunt saw me bending my neck over the stock of the gun .....he then did an eye dominance test and sure enough I'm left eye dominant. Nice work!!! I love your experiments too!! Keep up the great work!
Genetics don't determine antler color, what they run on does. In TX, the bugs in that brushy cedar country are commonly dark because of the resins from the cedars.
We have what we call “ chocolate deer in Oklahoma,whose hair color is genetically controlled ? Their belly hair is yellow and back hair is brown ?? They might have a melanistic component or adaptation ?? Antler color is as you say, often altered by tree resin and such in their environment !! They are stunning to see just gorgeous creatures to be sure !!
I've only taken two deer...both with my 22-250 using 55 gr projectiles. Thanks for all you do from Australia😀😀😀
I had a friend that had a custom made Ed Brown rifle in 7mm Rem Mag with a Leupold Mk 4 tactical scope. We dialed it in. I loved it. I really thought he needed more range time with it but he took it on a hunt in Wyoming, expecting up to a 300 yard shot. Took a shot on an elk at just over 100 yards and completely missed. Took another shot the following day and got his elk. We went to the range a few weeks after he got back to try to figure out what happened and he was doing the exact same thing as your nephew except he would sort of alternate which eye he would use with the scope. Left eye. Right eye... whichever he thought he could line up better, he'd go to that eye. Of course, we never stopped making fun of him missing at 100 yards with a $5,000 rig on his $3,000 (I think) hunt.
Congrats Sammy, One you’ll never forget. I’m left eye dominant also do some other things lefty. When I sight in my shots tend to the right, something to pay attention to. Great to see your family together! Sadly LH bolts always cost more,but you could always use RH rifle.
I love that high shoulder shot too. Been using that for years on our small properties here in Mid-Michigan to keep them from running. Legs fold up and they go straight down! Congrats on the buck Sammy and hope it’s only the first of many.
Great job Sam.. that's one fine Whitetail 😊
My favorite videos are the ones that are put together with family.. especially young hunters! What a blessing to see you teach your nephew and son the right way to hunt!
Great job to you all 😊
From Pennsylvania
Great video, that round has me intrigued for sure.
And I hope after putting that video together, that biggest lesson learned was that if you take someone hunting that hasn't shot a gun in 5+ years, you should probably have them first shoot that rifle at a target and not at a deer. Make sure they are hitting where they are aiming with that gun BEFORE hitting the woods.
So glad that deer gave Sam a 3rd chance. Hopefully he's hooked now.
Congratulations, guys! Great memories are being made!
My brother is right handed left eye Dom.... He shoots all crazy like that with his left eye head across the rifle. I've seen him down a hog at 500 with a 7mm, just practicing and sighting in his own rifle and he's been solid for years.
Its great to see a youngster getting this opportunity.. then a great victory.. Im also a lover of the 22cm
Love it man. Great to see a new hunter made!
In 1969 I shot my first buck ever, using my dad's 220 Swift. I shot it broadside in the lung area, and it went down like a ton of bricks.
Love to try 220 swift.
@@bennichols1113 I've never seen a deer that didn't drop instantly when hit (properly, of course) with a 220 Swift. It's NOT for long range on deer (over, say, 250 yards), and -- without a carefully chosen bullet -- it's not for front quartering shots when you need it to penetrate heavy bones.
My buddy Austin Elbert is an inside sales manager at Horizon firearms and he's been preaching to me the benifits of the 22 Creedmoor for some time. I think maybe that may be what my next rifle is chambered in.
22-250 is my 22 cal pick. Love your videos. 22-250 I
With the Barnes tsx, it's good stuff.
Congratulations Sam! Awesome first buck
Congratulations on all 3 of those good looking deer !
I missed the dear by mistake womp womp, I took some time in the range and was solid on the range, I just made a mistake and I’m grateful everyone around was supportive, but all tips are appreciated- Sam
Congrats to the new hunter. Anyone that has hunted deer long enough has misses. Keep up the good work. The 22 creed was impressive.
Thanks for a positive comment. Many others would choose to criticize a new hunters imperfections. Great to see comments from supportive people.
Congratulations on the great buck Sammy! It's interesting to see you've brought this up, this year has been an interesting season for us with learning. We've harvested a few deer this year with the 77 TMK out of a 223 AI and I've been really impressed with the 88 ELD-M out of a 22 Creed. Better performance with those two this year over a few 30s. I do have to say though I think propelling the bullet at it's correct velocity matters more than headstamp.
There are a few of us out there that are right hand dominant and left eye dominant. I think handedness dominates. Teach to use the weaker eye when shooting. There is more unnatural when shooting weak sided. Eyes adjust quickly.
Great job Sammy! Congrats man!
Your results are what a lot of people are starting to see with heavy for caliber 22s. I shot my mule deer this year with with a 77gr TMK out of a 223 and it hammered him. He was down in around 6 seconds. Great entry and exit at 275 yards, right on the crease of the shoulder. The 77gr TMK, 73 and 75 gr eldm are all doing well. Just like you mentioned, the terminal effects are very similar to the bigger calibers. With a 223 you can practice way more, you dont worry about recoil, and its super easy to spot your own impact. The down sides are you're a little limited in range and the wind will push it around more, but you can improve both of those by pushing that bullet faster out of something like a fast twist 22-250 or the 22 creed.
I have seen the results of the 77 TMK on the Rokslide forum. I have my blind rifle set up with that bullet. Have not had a chance to use it yet. Had a hunt this morning but woke up with a massive headache that I could not get the pain down, so I had to skip. Only one week left in the season, too.
@@usafret4709 yep, I saw all the success on the Rokslide form and ordered a Tikka this summer and had it cut down to 17.5 inches and threaded. Hopefully you'll be able to get out some more before season closes.
@@Duckhunterbow That sounds like a sweet little truck rifle. I had a T3X in 270 Win and that thing was a tack driver. For the 223, I had a USAF compadre build me a 14.5" pin and weld AR that came out to 16.5. It is shooting sub-MOA at 100 yards with AAC 77 TMKs. I added a folding stock and that is my truck/ground blind rifle. Added a 1-8x24 LPVO. It is just a fun little compact rifle that runs like a scalded dog. He barreled it from a Shilen blank.
I built an AR in 6.8 spc and had a hunting guide tell me it's too small for big deer. After dropping a nice buck at 250 yards, he apologized lol. Don't need a cannon to kill deer
@@Dfleuryoutdoors yep, you just need a good bullet that does what you want and pick shots according to your bullet/cartridge.
Congrats Sammy way to go and stay positive and not give up. I bought the vandal a couple weeks ago I Hope to go try it out soon predator, hogs whitetail maybe even on a Aoudad
14:30 Kind of tells you the value of all that pricey camo when the hunter is wearing shorts and a black hoodie. LOL
Helps being on a private ranch with a MLDP program where they likely drop strips of corn right down the middle of the road... Kinda like shooting pets if you're the ranch hand haha
@@pedropistolas8497 just Googled MLDP program. Basically farmed deer. Didn’t know about that.
@@pedropistolas8497 It reminded me of woodchuck hunting in a field of clover.
At one point you can see a pile of corn in the pickup bed. Everyone has a different definition of hunting and approaches to the same end goal. Where I come from deer hunting looks way different, no baiting, no tripods, no high-end custom rifles and definitely no shorts. Around here if you can't shoot off-hand you can't shoot at all. To each his own.
@@craig5649 I used to work on a 7,000 acre HIGHLY managed white tail ranch down there, was fun but not my favorite style!
@@pedropistolas8497 I'm from Pennsylvania, near Lake Erie. Not too many 7k acre properties even exist here except National Forest.
I did the same thing when I was a kid. Dad never noticed with pellet guns, but when I started shooting with optics he noticed me leaning over the stock. Turns out I was cross dominant. At age 6 he switch me over to my left shoulder. I've been running left ever since!
I am pretty impressed. Just need to see more rifles and ammo manufacturers get on board.
That’s a monster of a first buck! My son got his first this year. It was a fork, but still awesome…and delicious.
Congratulations Sammy ! That's a awesome buck!
This has to be one of my favorite Backfire episodes, and I could not care less about the .22 Creedmoor. It was just cool seeing you take your nephew out on a hunt.
One of the best Backfire videos I've seen. Keep up the great work. So glad the story had a happy ending for Sammy.
That would be a fun hunting trip. Bucks everywhere shooting a super accurate rifle. Thanks for sharing.
a rifle is only as accurate as it's handler. and, the ammo being used too.
Congratulations Sam, great deer! You are one lucky hunter to have a buck show up 3 consecutive days after being shot at for 2 days in a row. 22 Creedmoor is quite impressive on whitetail.
Nothing to do with fences or small home range?
Pre creedmoor, I built a 22 Middlestead... very very similar cartridges... 75gr berger are crazy good on whitetails
Happy Xmas and New Year to you and yours. Stay well.
Left eye dominant is easy to fix close that eye
Congrats all! I was a sceptic for sure. 🇺🇲👍. Merry Christmas 🌲
Back in the day most of the hunters used 22 lr for caribou hunting and when we were kids we always had 22 lr with our dads that has 222 with them. Now I use 22-250 for caribou hunting.
I still use 22 lr quite often in seal hunting.
Thank You Back Fire for another interesting video
My pleasure! Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to any and all who read this.
Nice hunting for all 3 of ya.
With all the cartridges that have recently come out do you think more state's or maybe countries ( depending on where you are at ) will not limit bullet sizes or weights?
Dang Derrick and Crew That Dinner meal looked amazing.
The 78gr Barnes TSX pushed by 2000mr is a solid deer killer in 224 valkyrie!
fun video thanks jim
Dude, dope living room straight up. Love the pillars
Damn I’m gettin old
Great first buck kid! I know it was a struggle but learning perseverance early in your hunting journey is huge and your tenacity paid off. 22 creed is looking impressive I think my next bolt gun will be a howa 6arc then probably the 22 creed
I would have liked to see what kind of internal damage they did.
then you might see all three bullets in it
@@assassassin187 It was definitely not hit 3 times. Maybe twice, but that second shot was 100% a miss.
Yeah I would like to see that too. If it’s anything like the 70 grain TSXs I’ve used in 5.56, it’s pretty devastating, especially at closer ranges
Indeed, congrats to Sam! What an out and out blast! Great video, Great ethics exercised by all ....
This was a really good video gotta get him out more
Can you do a cartridge comparison covering the 22 creedmoor, 22 ARC, 224 Valkyrie?? I like the idea of these small caliber shooting wonder drift resistant bullets
Enjoy these videos. Never even heard of the 22 Creedmoor until now, and I own a 6.5 CM. I can attest as to the accuracy of the Hornandy 147 Precision round. Been hunting for over 50 years and still need to be reminded, to squeeze the trigger, not pull it. Great advice. Now, as for wearing shorts to hunt, especially with all those cacti, ummm, not going to do that anytime soon.
Congrats everyone! From Kamloops BC
Great! You're down here where I live and hunt. ❤
Congrats to Sammy. Way to stay with it and get it done.
Congratulations Sammy on a nice buck!!
I am working up loads for a 22-243 Ackley Improved... I am getting 3,600 FPS with a 90 grain bullet.... lol Pushing it a little more but according to my data, it should stay super sonic out to a mile!
Good job, lucky Sam!
Awesome buck Sammy, ,Congrats
Can you shoot gel at range with it and another common caliber to compare the difference if any
R.I.P. Brother. Alot of lessons learned hear hunting. great video
I have been waiting for this video.
P O Ackley shot donkey in a cull operation and his favorite caliber for that was a 220 swift which has the same capacity as the 22 creedmoor.
Only difference is that the 22 creedmoor has a faster twist
Thanks for a great video and I bought the jacket you petaled better be good Lol Merry Christmas
Hope you like it! Did good for me on this hunt. Seemed pretty good quality stitching and such.
How many yards ?
Welcome to South Texas, NOW people should understand why we BAIT and use Blinds
They don't know how thick the brush is with cat's claw and tasajillo 😂
Im super pumped for my 22Creed project! Great vid Jim! See you at shot?
Heck yeah! See you there. Merry Christmas.
Shot placement is everything no the size of the rifle
Congratulations to all of you
I'd love to see an independent investigation of 8.6 blk twist via hunting results... subs and supers.
That has to be the luckiest Buck I've ever seen
That ole corn pile works every time even ifin you been shot at twice yes you are correct I cannot bait in my state!!!! 😞
I have not had good luck switching between match and precision. The precision does seem to do a good job on game.
Merry Christmas and welcome to South Texas!
Congratulations on the first deer!
What County were ya’ll in?
Way to stick with it and stay motivated, great job Sammy!
As I begin to watch I'm trying to wrap my head around "massive Bucks" and Texas being used in the same sentence. I'll keep watching.
I have 2 rufles that shoot under 1 moa one just has to be my hand loads i havent seen it do that with factory.
Congratulations Sammy.
Good video! I enjoyed it! Like seeing the kids getting after it! Nice gun! What happened to your other hosts on the channel? Love all your content! Keep it up!
Id say some range time, dry fire and practice is in order but welcome to the hunting community and nice buck!
Alot of people up here in the northwest of AK use the .223/5.56 round for caribou and they range between 200 and 400lbs depending on the season.
Good on ya Sammy that was cool as bud.
He just went from right eye dominant to expense side bolt gun. Congratulations. Join the club. Fewer options n most places cost $100-200 more for it. Some might be same cost but different barrel length too. Why? Idk
MAAAAN I WISH I HAD A 22 creedmoor
Merry christmas cool video
That stock looks so much like a Seekins Urban Shadow.
chasing deer is the best!!!
I've killed more than my share of whitetail with the 22-250. It's a monster.
Merry Christmas 2024, been there done that. It ended up being the Scope adjustment, but I did not check in between both shots I just assumed.
Merry Christmas!
Best Wishes from Brazil, Merry Christmas 🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊where it was?
Great first hunt
I think the cartridge was great for him and proof of that was when you threw in the dud round while target shooting and he didn’t move
Wondering what your thoughts are on the Ruger American gen 2.
I don’t know much about to Ruger American Gen II, I sure like the new stock but still wish they would fix the bedding system and flimsy forend !!! However, I love the new barrel, The trigger, the 3 luge 60% bolt through, magazine, every thing else !! I was going to get a Savage 110 tactical in 6 mm ARC !! I’ve heard they have ejector problems and are difficult to cycle ???? Ruger actions don’t have those troubles !! mine is smooth and ejects and cycles great !!
Congrats! That's awesome! But would never happen on public land.
Me, Myself, and my Father are ALL right handed but left eye dominant. I am the only one of the three that shoots right handed still. Be it open sights, scope, red dot, or even archery.... we all shoot the same zero still. don't know how that is possible.