Ep. 096 - 22 ARC | NEW CARTRIDGE |

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  • @hornady
    @hornady  Рік тому +17

    Initial 22 ARC builders can be found here with more to come: www.hornady.com/22arc#!/

    • @jw1662
      @jw1662 Рік тому +1

      America needs a 257prc… or 25prc. Please hornady

    • @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28
      @Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 Рік тому +1

      You should be ashamed introducing new products in the worst economic crisis of our lifetimes, while the world is at the brink of WW3, as well as broken supply chains and inflated raw material costs. You can't keep the stuff you already make stocked up on the shelves at a fair price, yet you introduce another new cartridge? Wtf is wrong with y'all? It's not just y'all either, as it seems the entire world has gone crazy and everyone is colluding to destroy everything that made America and just life in general, great. Disgraceful is putting it mildly.

    • @larrygreene8300
      @larrygreene8300 Рік тому

      The 1in7 twist makes a big difference in lethality over a 1in10 or 1in13 regardless of bullet weight.

    • @GMT439
      @GMT439 Рік тому

      If it's so good like you claim then I presume that the military and police will be the first users of this caliber.. & If they are not going to use it then why is that?

    • @user-yx2cb9yo9u
      @user-yx2cb9yo9u 2 місяці тому

      Because the military and police dont need a varmint gun​@@GMT439

  • @jerryconrad2737
    @jerryconrad2737 Рік тому +110

    Learned my lesson with the 6 ARC. No 7 PRC and no 22 ARC until I see consistent well stocked shelves in all the ammo offerings. I will wait years if I have to. Years. So show me.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Рік тому +9

      Correct

    • @patcoder7308
      @patcoder7308 Рік тому +5

      Get it strait from Hornady

    • @TXGRunner
      @TXGRunner Рік тому

      @@patcoder7308at $4/round? Who has that kind of money?

    • @josephlong7420
      @josephlong7420 Рік тому +2

      I completely agree, show me staying power first. Although, I jumped on the 6arc bandwagon fairly early. I handload so I just reformed 6.5 grendel brass.

    • @fattigla
      @fattigla Рік тому +2

      There is ammo commonly available, you might have to use a Google search to find it. You may not see ammo on shelves at gun stores and box shelves right now. My local gun store owner said he's not buying any more ammo until he sells out of what he has now, and he's not going to mark it down unless he absolutely has to. With the state of the economy, the gun community as a whole isn't buying ammunition like it was a year ago. You can buy 6mm arc right now. It's probably not ever going to be a $.40/ round cartridge. Most ammo is not going back to the price it was precovid

  • @albertlemont5471
    @albertlemont5471 Рік тому +130

    I would love to see Hornady start a primer manufacturing line! Then lets talk!

  • @stevenmarcus2709
    @stevenmarcus2709 Рік тому +170

    I mean let’s focus on making what we already have better, and more plentiful. We have enough cartridges, but we don’t have enough of them. If I could dream up a new product from Hornady it would be a “Super Match” line of brass designed too compete with Lapua, Peterson and Alpha in terms of quality. Bring me that.

    • @skinnypedaldown5044
      @skinnypedaldown5044 Рік тому +5

      Think outside the box.

    • @marcanthony854
      @marcanthony854 Рік тому

      @@skinnypedaldown5044exactly

    • @forestgiest1380
      @forestgiest1380 Рік тому +13

      Why is this the first thing that people say when literally anything new comes out?

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston Рік тому +7

      Man, it’s just capitalism. With America’s obsession with the AR15 platform in a world where so much game is too far or too big for a 223 it makes sense that people will want to capitalise on that gap in a otherwise flooded market.

    • @jeffpittman8725
      @jeffpittman8725 Рік тому +2

      Agreed.

  • @glhx2112
    @glhx2112 Рік тому +28

    Can't find any LEVERevolution ammo anywhere in any caliber for sale, along with various other caliber cartridges you used to produce, but, here we are looking at yet another new caliber. These new calibers look great and I am seriously considering at least two of them, but it's getting very hard to justify/rationalize jumping into something new when I cannot even get my hands on a reliable supply of other Common caliber ammo that Hornady used to produce. (Intentionally skipping the reloading component availability issue that normally is a part of this discussion). $3 to $4 PER cartridge for a box of ammo being flipped on Gunbroker because that is the only place it can be found is not going to cut it.

    • @TheChristonline
      @TheChristonline Рік тому +3

      For real Bro. , when a simple rewind of time shows us that we bought into the hype of a new product only to be let down a few years later by the very companies that produced those products ,man it's upsetting . Take the .224 Valkyrie and how kick ass it is , but due to a mistake in some of the chamber reamers , many people were turned off and gave up on the cartridge. Most of the barrel maker's wouldn't admit their mistake and let the consumers know of the issue until the Valkyrie was destroyed. So sad .

    • @calebmckernan6456
      @calebmckernan6456 Рік тому

      If you are struggling to find LEVERevolution ammunition you may need to look in different places. I've personally seen tons of it in most cartridges they offer at various midwest small town gun shops lately going for a pretty standard market price.

  • @J_Un1t
    @J_Un1t Рік тому +38

    I’m gonna deviate and say I’m glad y’all continue to push the envelope especially considering you’re one of the only manufacturers that was able to keep bullets and brass on the shelf the last 3 years.

    • @hornady
      @hornady  Рік тому +14

      Thank you!

    • @mariomoso1059
      @mariomoso1059 Рік тому +6

      @@hornadyno not thank you. Fill up the 6mm arc and listen to the people.

    • @OC_Lofton
      @OC_Lofton Рік тому +1

      ​@@mariomoso105947:36 - 48:02. I heard it said (or it's been alleged) that the 6mm ARC function very differently in "gas guns" versus bolt actions, mainly in respect to pressure, which is why at least one rifle manufacturer declined on chambering 6mm ARC in their bolt action lines. 6mm ARC is likely the best designed cartridge for AR-15 platform but 22 ARC sounds like it was engineered for both Bolt Action and AR-15 rifles without "oversights nor drawbacks". Personally, I'm sticking with 6.5 Grendel if price per round aren't noticeably lower than 6.5 Grendel or if ammo manufacturers outside of Hornady isn't producing ammunition for any said cartridge. I've found no noticeable accuracy differences in 6.5 Grendel between my AR-15 and bolt actions.

    • @varmint_king
      @varmint_king Рік тому

      @@OC_Loftonmy 6 arc bolt gun functions great. I have an 18” proof barrel ar and 18” proof barrel bolt gun. Both are great I can just get 100+ fps more out of the same bullet in my bolt gun with out pressure signs.

    • @OC_Lofton
      @OC_Lofton Рік тому

      @@varmint_king Understood. One of the companies that worked with Hornady in providing test rifles for 6mm ARC cartridge development has yet to chamber their bolt action line in 6mm ARC and may never. I was looking forward to having a 6mm ARC bolt action that accepts Stanag/AR-Platform magazines.

  • @justsnuggle
    @justsnuggle Рік тому +19

    Seth. Every podcast I listen to I just cannot get over how good of a interviewer you are. How you manage the flow of the conversation. You make all of your guests feel important and included. You don't throw any cheap shots. You have your own wealth of knowledge. Just phenomenal I don't think they could have picked anyone better to host their podcast.

  • @msb2948
    @msb2948 Рік тому +12

    This conveyer belt of new this and new that and every one of these new cartridges results in empty shelves at the store, I have to thank you guys though. for the reality check on promises not delivered as I was waiting reluctantly for this 6ARC I took my old Winchester Trapper out for this past season and dropped my PB deer. It reminded me of the joy of hunting and not just shooting. I had almost forgot how much fun stalking was in hunting. Owning the latest greatest guns and gadgets actually seems to be a modern man made distraction from the enjoyment of this great sport called hunting. I see why so many people take up archery.

    • @Plumcraziness
      @Plumcraziness Рік тому +4

      Hmmmmmm, point well taken. I hadn't even realized it, but even in my own comment on this video, your comment made me realize I was putting more of an emphasis on the gear and the ballistics instead the hunt itself. Which is actually out of character for myself, as I have always prioritized my enjoyment of the hunt over gear. I think your comment serves as a good reminder, even to myself, to not get so caught up with this new round (or any new round for that matter). I'm still very much "wait and see" about it, and admittedly, it will be interesting to see more detailed ballistics for .22 ARC, but ultimately, the enjoyment really is in the stalking and hunting itself, not just the gear. As I have always said to other people: "make it a hunt, not a shoot." Thanks for that reminder.

    • @mountainman9973
      @mountainman9973 Рік тому +3

      If you think archery isn't just as bad I think again every year 10 new bows drop and 20 new broadheads it's the exact same game. About the time you find what you like it is out of stock or discontinued time to start over

    • @bradleyschott8718
      @bradleyschott8718 Рік тому +3

      Amen! Forty years ago when I became obsessed with hunting coyotes in the hard canyons of central Nebraska, I was carrying my Grandfather-in-law’s Savage 22 hi-power. I didn’t kill as many as I would have liked with that gun, but even with $50-$100 coyotes (1980) I still had a blast just walking those hills for hours…..hunting. If a coyote “won” because of the gun’s lack of “efficiency”, it didn’t take away one gram of excitement. I eventually bought a Ruger M77 22-250 (for $220 at Gibsons in North Platte) that helped the kill percentage, but did nothing to increase the hunting experience. Sometimes it’s best just to grab your “good enough” rifle that will make an ethical kill and get yourself outdoors.

  • @asknight
    @asknight Рік тому +3

    I absolutely love these group chat type podcasts. The knowledge, recounting of historical events in product development, and the genuine interest and love of the industry by the chat participants makes this a real joy to watch/listen. Thank you all.

  • @Hunting4knowledge
    @Hunting4knowledge Рік тому +129

    We need more of what we have already at a good price. I love new cartridges and efficiency, but not in these times.

  • @ripcurlreadiness8777
    @ripcurlreadiness8777 Рік тому +14

    I would also like to see more development of the 8.6 BLACKOUT. Seeing the performance from 0 to 300 yrds it’s doing with a minimal selection of ammo is amazing. The combo of a subsonic heavy bullet and super fast twist rate is doing amazing things.

  • @Kattbirb
    @Kattbirb Рік тому +8

    So glad we finally found a .22 caliber, high velocity cartridge that fits in an AR. Truly revolutionary.
    And here I thought the 6mm Arc was silly.

  • @guycordle9038
    @guycordle9038 11 місяців тому +1

    Keep up the great work guys! Innovation in cartridges is amazing and you guys are trailblazers for the commercial market. Thank you!

    • @hornady
      @hornady  11 місяців тому +1

      You bet!

  • @InkwellFoto
    @InkwellFoto Рік тому +52

    I just want more 6arc at a lower price. Availability of the ammo and brass needs to be a priority or else it dies out and we are left with what we always had with no real innovation.

    • @TXGRunner
      @TXGRunner Рік тому +3

      Exactly.
      The launch window was awful, just a few months later came the pandemic, then massive supply chain issues -- not their fault, but here they are launching 22ARC (shouldn't it really be 5.5ARC?). Finish launching 6mm ARC first. I notice Hornady helped out Federal by making 30 Super Carry ammo (that sits on shelves), but Federal never released a 6mm ARC load.

  • @whiskerbiscuit99
    @whiskerbiscuit99 Рік тому +12

    Love seeing our local ammo manufacturer making strides in the industry!

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому +2

      Rather see them make ammo for what all ready out there

  • @MrWorf53
    @MrWorf53 Рік тому +34

    Why does Hornady start a new cartridge every other month while there are ammo shortages?

    • @Redpitbull44
      @Redpitbull44 Рік тому +2

      Someone has to innovate

    • @judgegarry
      @judgegarry Рік тому +4

      So Honady can get a bit of shared $$$ from gun manufacturers for producing a demand for new chambered rifles. This gives the benefit of shared promotion, for one...
      Every Jane and Joe with too much money falling out of their pockets will "have to have" one.

    • @blademan6075
      @blademan6075 11 місяців тому +1

      @@judgegarry. So they are catering to the rich and wealthy rather than the majority of the American people. Is this what you’re saying? Because if it is it certainly seems to be correct by the looks of things.

    • @tjpaxton611
      @tjpaxton611 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Redpitbull44 So Hornady creates a new round, then fails to manufacture and supply it. Great business model. ..

  • @alanfaulkner5266
    @alanfaulkner5266 Рік тому +15

    Seems cool, I might check it out in 5-10 years when ammo is more available. Can't get 6 ARC on the shelves in the midsouth as it is now, had to order it from Arizona. Not even gonna think about the 7 PRC.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Рік тому +1

      Correct

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Рік тому +1

      I stopped at 2 local gun stores today, Cal Ranch and Sportsman's Warehouse. Both had multiple Hornady loads of 6mm ARC and 6.5 Grendel.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Рік тому

      @@LRRPFco52 no

  • @dustinfarnsworth174
    @dustinfarnsworth174 Рік тому +30

    To add to your Business Class philosophy with “deliver it” we’re seeing a huge lack of 6mm ARC being delivered. How will those of us who want to try it know that you’ll actually support it? We can’t get anywhere close to the volume we need for what we already have.

    • @neek2384
      @neek2384 Рік тому +2

      This yes

    • @TheBlacksmith5
      @TheBlacksmith5 Рік тому

      6 ARC is the reason I'm taking up reloading. I LOVE my 6 ARC gas gun, but it's so expensive to shoot that I somewhat regret not just getting a 6.5 grendel, I'd end up reloading anyway, but it sucks not having cheap FMJ plinking rounds available just so I could shoot the 6ARC more like I could have done with the 6.5. As well as stocking up without breaking the bank

  • @706trippster
    @706trippster Рік тому +2

    I bought into a new cartridge Hornady put out. It was a team up between Hornady and Marlin. It was the .450 Marlin. I bought the lever action rifle within a year (Marlin 1895M) and I was not disappointed. It absolutely slammed Whitetail, wild hogs. It was the only rifle that has been chambered in that round that I have found anyway. That combination of rifle and cartridge was everything the 45-70 should be…it was everything that was promised.
    It was a large game dropping machine. I am now disappointed in the availability of the ammo. I will wait to see how popular this cartridge becomes, before I buy in.
    Hornady does some incredible things..but buying a new rifle to use what you all do…only to have the ammo hard or impossible to find in ten or twenty years is not an option that works for me.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @sheethneaffer8614
    @sheethneaffer8614 Рік тому +16

    I absolutely Love the concepts of 6ARC and 22ARC. 6ARC came out at the exact time I started planning a 6.5 grendel build. I was just thinking "I wish the 6.5 grendel used a 6mm bullet. I guess I'll have to settle." Then the 6ARC came out. I was over joyed but then when the ammo came out I noticed they only had the heavy stuff. I thought " I wish they had a lighter 60ish grain bullet for varmints" Now I am watching this and am introduced to your ELD-VT line. I am estatic. I love hornady so much. I told a cooworker that If Hornday could get a military contract for the 22ARC or 6ARC and mass produce the ammo, I bet that in 20 years half of the AR-15s produced will be in 6ARC or 22ARC.

    • @DZ4295DBW
      @DZ4295DBW Рік тому

      I'm leaning more towards 6Max. Solves the glaring issues with 6arc.

    • @TXGRunner
      @TXGRunner Рік тому +1

      If there were any ammo available, or if any of the ammo availability was under $2/round.

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou Рік тому +1

      Why on earth would the military swap all their rifles to 22 arc

    • @Liberty.Cant.Be.Canceled
      @Liberty.Cant.Be.Canceled Рік тому

      They already picked their new one. .277 sig. They won't be changing now.

    • @austinclark7006
      @austinclark7006 11 місяців тому

      @@WayStedYoucause its better than 5.56 , more accurate and increases the lethality range…

  • @EagleEyeShooting
    @EagleEyeShooting Рік тому +13

    Outstanding to see the innovation from Hornady and listening to the community's needs. Having personally seen the performance of this cartridge already.... id be honored to work with Hornady on this one

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому +4

      The hell with innovation
      And there not listening and not giving the people what they want.
      We don't need new cartridges. Until there no lack of ammo for the old cartridges.

    • @BillyWillicker
      @BillyWillicker Рік тому

      They could be licensing it from RW. The 224AR looks like Hornady's new appropriation.

    • @EagleEyeShooting
      @EagleEyeShooting Рік тому +5

      @tbjtbj4786 I understand where your coming from, but their is also a massive reloading side to this. Hornady list load data for consumers like us. I've made videos demonstrating the performance of this cartridge with handloads both in a bolt gun and AR15.
      Factory ammo may be harder to find as many are buying it up right away, but I strongly recommend getting into reloading. Hornady will have load data and the same bullets available for reloading so you can get this ammo down pipe without relying on finding factory ammo

    • @kawi733
      @kawi733 Рік тому +2

      Love my 22 DPC. Wonder how close the specs are.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Рік тому +1

      ​@@tbjtbj4786correct

  • @scottbailey8158
    @scottbailey8158 Рік тому +5

    Wow 22-250 in a ar platform, iv dreamed of tbat so now the .22 arc in that type of firearm ill buy one soon as i see the ammo well stocked on store shelves.

  • @dannydivine7699
    @dannydivine7699 Рік тому +20

    Ok so at the risk of asking a dumb question, why is an "AR / Gas Gun" cartridge developed and tested using a 24" barrel, what is the "MOST COMMON" length of barrel found on this type of gun??? I'm feeling pretty safe in assuming its NOT 24"

    • @armstrong2052
      @armstrong2052 Рік тому

      I was thinking about that. It's just to get the stated velocity too sell. I'm sure 16 18 20 will be the length barrels for the gas guns. The 24s will be bolt guns. Marketing gimmick. That's all I could think of.

    • @armstrong2052
      @armstrong2052 Рік тому +1

      It was probably not a 24 gas gun tested. He probably said it wrong.

    • @rustyyates421
      @rustyyates421 Рік тому

      I've never even seen a 24 in ar 15

    • @daneaxe6465
      @daneaxe6465 Рік тому

      @@rustyyates421 I don't think I have either. I know 24" AR barrels are out there depending on caliber. 6.5 Creedmoor drops velocity fast when it goes below 22".

    • @rustyyates421
      @rustyyates421 Рік тому

      Most of the ar 15s I see on the shelf are 16 inch barrel and 20 in barrels. I've never seen a 24 in barrel ar 15 or ar 10

  • @Gunrunner4532
    @Gunrunner4532 Рік тому +3

    And still, you can’t find so many of the existing cartridges. I wrote to Hornady about several, such as the 17 WSM. Hornady wrote back that they were a small manufacturer and “we’re doing the best that we can”. When I see these new calibers being manufactured and nothing happening with some of the older ones it really says something about Hornady as a company. Small manufacturer? Bravo Sierra

  • @miimprovement9332
    @miimprovement9332 Рік тому +16

    What you need to develop is your supply chain. So the we don’t have to suffer through another ammo shortage!

    • @daneisenbrey9897
      @daneisenbrey9897 11 місяців тому +5

      They say they’re making more ammo… Yeah right what they’re doing is making half the ammo at 3 time the price you can see that by their astronomical profits Hornaday should start paying attention!!!! all the comments here more than half of them are not good

  • @themountainraven
    @themountainraven 10 місяців тому +1

    man you guys are killing it....i want all the arcs and prc's.

  • @adamhymas4620
    @adamhymas4620 9 місяців тому +1

    This is like an AM radio infomercial. "I tried every [insert product here] on the market, but none of them met my expectations"

  • @nathanspitzley4759
    @nathanspitzley4759 Рік тому +6

    I have yet to pull the trigger on the 6ARC because you can not get ammo, or brass in stock. How long before it actually produce stuff.

  • @DanielReyes-hz1qk
    @DanielReyes-hz1qk Рік тому +8

    Absolutely love this concept and will definitely be getting one when I'm able. Another home run in my book. A 6 ARC and 7 PRC are on my wishlist as well 🤣

    • @hornady
      @hornady  Рік тому +4

      Go for it!

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому +5

      ​@@hornadyhow about supplying cartridges for whats out there before making new ones?

    • @joeld008
      @joeld008 Рік тому

      @@tbjtbj4786 Just so we’re clear, your asking the company to spend their limited manufacturing capacity on cartridges that have significant competition, instead of leveraging their current competitive advantage.

    • @thelittledetailscr7231
      @thelittledetailscr7231 Рік тому +2

      ​@tbjtbj4786 there is plenty everywhere online.

    • @charlesmullins3238
      @charlesmullins3238 Рік тому +1

      I got the 6.5prc waypoint runnin the 95gr v max 3625fps…7prc..22arc..and the big .300prc I’d love to test and ultimately take a whitetail with for comparison…love hornady and have many bullets in several cartridges…xtp..sst…eldx..m…v max..ol Ky boy raised in these mountains with a rifle…

  • @mikehancho1613
    @mikehancho1613 Рік тому +7

    How about get standard ammo on the shelves at a decent price. I dont even shoot much anymore because i refuse to pay the outrageous prices

  • @64samsky
    @64samsky Рік тому +14

    Now, if we could just get the brass without going through the headaches that we have, like getting 6mm ARC brass, that would be awesome.

    • @russherbert839
      @russherbert839 5 місяців тому

      I just purchased 500 pcs of 6 arc from Starline; it was backordered when I bought it but it shipped about 6weeks later. I think it’s still in stock

  • @aaronunterseher1627
    @aaronunterseher1627 Рік тому +5

    We can't even get brass and primers as it is for the stuff we already have... unless you go flat out custom, you can't find the grendel bolt face for bolt actions....

  • @sethwinn4061
    @sethwinn4061 Рік тому +5

    The idea of the 22 ARC sounds great. The 22-250 hits a brick wall at 500 yards. I would love to get a barrel in 22 ARC. I'm already set on 6.5 Grendel rifles so it would just be a barrel change. But the grail quest to get 22 ARC ammo, or god forbid unprimed brass, just kills it for me. 6mm ARC brass is still theoretical going on 3 years now. Hornady has done much, much better than every other manufacturer over the last several years to keep most of their products on the shelves. I have lost all interest in Sierra and Nosler bullets due to their chronic unavailability since 2020. And in the 300 PRC and 6mm ARC cartridges for the same reason. I love Hornady but component and ammo availability is my driving concern for any new cartridge. Overload us with brass and ammo availability and this cartidge will take off.

  • @mac7977
    @mac7977 Рік тому +4

    Another cartridge that's unavailable to find. I agree with the person that commented "let's try to make what we already have available". I built a 6.5 Grendel & if I didn't handload/reload ammo would be very hard & expensive to find.

  • @rickstrandberg6398
    @rickstrandberg6398 Рік тому +10

    How about take a couple years off making new cartridges and OPEN Two primer factories, running three shifts.

  • @visiter127
    @visiter127 Рік тому +4

    Waste a time unless u can fill shelf's with ammo and brass , how long did pl wait for stand alone brass ?

  • @kenneider5317
    @kenneider5317 Рік тому +2

    I love the 6arc!!! This is gonna be awesome!!!!

    • @TXGRunner
      @TXGRunner Рік тому

      If they ever finish launch of 6mm ARC and make some ammo.

  • @KS-dg5zh
    @KS-dg5zh Рік тому +7

    @hornaday When will there be more availability for the 6 mm arc?it's a really nice round to shot for long range.

  • @tbjtbj4786
    @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому +7

    More new rounds?
    How about getting cought up on the rounds we all ready have and need ammo for?

  • @tphpodcast
    @tphpodcast Рік тому +4

    We're incredibly excited for the release of this round! Going to great alongside all of our 6 ARCs.

    • @americanpatriot8786
      @americanpatriot8786 Рік тому +2

      As a gun store owner in North Las Vegas, NV, I have to say this sounds a lot like S&W putting out all the hype on the 30 super carry right in the middle of the last pandemic when other ammo was scarce. This is just wrong for the Consumer at this time no matter the excuse or hype. I have had 2, 6mm ARC rifles on the wall for over a year and nobody cared about them, I couldn’t even get ammo for them for months. I gave one away for a police raffle earlier this year and am getting ready to give the other one away this December. Please focus on keeping up with product that is already out there I’m so sick of companies trying to be the one putting out the so called latest and greatest and leave everyone hanging. I will not be investing in any new cartridges unless a customer specifically is looking for it (probably not) for my business. 224 Valkyrie no one cares about either.

    • @tphpodcast
      @tphpodcast Рік тому +2

      @@americanpatriot8786 ​ @americanpatriot8786 My experience has been the complete inverse. Not only have I sold quite a few 6 ARC rifles, particularly this hunting season, I've done everything I could to ensure we had 6 ARC in stock at all times, including around 100K rounds at the moment. But we were also early adopters and have put a significant amount of effort to educate our customer base about the round and its benefits.
      There was obviously a lul, caused by the pandemic and possibly one of the greatest supply chain disruptions we've ever seen, during a huge spike in demand for ammunition, but I'm not going to lay that at Hornady's feet. With all the ammunition companies I deal with, they seemed to have navigate 2020-2023 better than most.

    • @americanpatriot8786
      @americanpatriot8786 Рік тому +2

      Honestly, I agree with you on several points. I do believe in educating the customer on the benefits of a particular cartridge and that is something we train constantly on in our store. But when the base is not having it, it speaks for itself. Now having said that, I will say your customer base may not mind but on my end I am relaying the customer complaints and you can’t argue with the customer and the needs they look for. The market just needs to stabilize a bit on the cartridges that are currently in production. I specifically mentioned S&W’s Super Carry cartridge which, to date ,seems to have fallen off the wayside and all the hype has gone away. These cartridges do have a place and, Hornady is an absolute innovator, and has done a great job keeping up with manufacturing even in leaner times, but seriously let’s not start rocking the boat for the meager production supplies that are not so readily available is my and most of our customer bases concerns. This just keeps prices high overall.

    • @daneaxe6465
      @daneaxe6465 Рік тому +1

      I fully agree with the sentiments on adding more & more new calibers. I know locally 6 ARC was on the shelf because when the panic cleaned out ammo stocks, it was sitting by itself. So being naturally curious I had to see what cartridge nobody wanted. Eventually it sold.
      I will have to say that Hornady did a FAR better job trying to put reloading bullets on shelves, even at the worst of the hysteria, than any other brand
      Being heavily in the gun hobby for over 50 years I've seen a lot of hype and then "POOF" vaporware. Be it guns, gear or ammo. So I've practiced caution assisted by wise guidance from my long time fav gunshop owner. The only oddball caliber I have is 25 WSSM and that's only because it fits on top an AR15 receiver. Well, there's the 25-223 wildcat but that's not a hindrance as long as you have 223 cases.
      Sierra bullets seems to have gone out of business. Leupold still can't get its Custom Shop open, its last excuse was Covid regulations in Oregon which is mindboggling. Wonder who's running the shows in Oregon??

  • @Aceoffroad4x4
    @Aceoffroad4x4 Рік тому +11

    It would be nice if you guys had laid over some figures and/or charts/ diagrams while describing these values.

    • @alexmills1329
      @alexmills1329 11 місяців тому

      Good information to have for sure, but that’s not really the direction or point of these podcasts. Don’t forget they made the round, it’s better for the testing you see to be independent so you can confirm that it’s not being manipulated by the people trying to sell you the stuff.

  • @mikedundee65
    @mikedundee65 Рік тому +2

    I hope this cartridge gets popular. I'd like to see it make its way into canada. I've always liked to 223 but wanted better performance. This cartridge seems to be the ticket.

  • @jonkonerza5643
    @jonkonerza5643 Рік тому +5

    I'm still waiting for 6mm ARC brass to be available. Still cannot find that stuff. Hopefully when this line gets pushed out, the 6 ARC brass will become more available along with the 22 ARC components.

    • @TXGRunner
      @TXGRunner Рік тому +3

      Maybe the should finish the launch of 6mm ARC before launching a new cartridge they lack the capacity to produce.

    • @1x1nDone
      @1x1nDone 11 місяців тому

      Starline is starting to push out a bunch of it, and more companies besides Hornady are making 6mm ARC cartridges. It's finally starting to branch out

  • @a.joegevara3519
    @a.joegevara3519 Рік тому +3

    The 5.6×39mm, also known in the U.S. as .220 Russian, is a cartridge developed in 1961...

  • @homeinthewhiteoaks
    @homeinthewhiteoaks Рік тому +2

    I'm an old fart, and not a lot of new products convince me they are needed. I have to hand it to Hornady looking at the ARC and PRC line of cartridges I'm impressed. Anyone can make a fast cartridge, but the balance of performance to powder you get with your PRC and ARC line is impressive.

  • @TheThirdH
    @TheThirdH Рік тому +6

    Was really hoping for SAAMI 25 Creedmoor this year. Seems lie the “perfect” balance.

    • @epfd217
      @epfd217 Рік тому

      There is no balance cause there are very few .25 cal bullets. The market at large doesn't support the .25 cal. Just look at barrels and bullets.

    • @jacktrout5807
      @jacktrout5807 Рік тому

      ​@@epfd217 ah I disagree there are enough of the right projectiles available in quarter bore to make the 25 creed interesting and I agree that it might be the perfect caliber for the case capacity and design of the modified 30tc case.

  • @austinanderson8485
    @austinanderson8485 Рік тому +6

    Couldn’t someone who already has a custom 22-250 with faster twist run the new bullet and take advantage of both worlds the higher powered capacity and new slippery bullet

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Рік тому +1

      Yes, but not in the AR-15, unless you got one of the very rare Olympic Arms .22-250 AR-15s.

  • @davidlaroche8928
    @davidlaroche8928 Рік тому +2

    Just about pulled the trigger on a 6ARC......now you have me back to thinking.... well done Hornady well done.
    Great podcast yet again. Exciting education

  • @DominicZelenak
    @DominicZelenak Рік тому +5

    I'm extremely skeptical. I consider myself very lucky to have never built or purchased an alternative AR cartridge because of the problems each one has brought to the table, 6mm ARC included. As we speak right now, a small group of people are looking to dethrone the 6mm arc with the 6mm MAX. These new cartridges that go nowhere or remain expensive are exhausting.

  • @bradlehman1537
    @bradlehman1537 Рік тому +1

    I can understand why it would be a good choice for an AR style. In today's high cost lower availability it sounds good.

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla Рік тому +2

    This videocame up in my feed, and at first I was really excited, then I was like "Wait, is this an old April fools video?" Then I checked the release date, and thought "oh yeah!!!"

  • @rossbaker5034
    @rossbaker5034 Рік тому +10

    It's hilarious how every time Hornady introduces a cartridge, the hype is so high that every other cartridge just doesn't compare. It's also funny how well they scew numbers of other cartridges to make theirs shine so bright. It seems that a few of their numbers are a bit off when it comes to other cartridges in this family. I'm not saying they are, but it's awful hard believing this hype over an unknown cartridge that hasn't even hit the market yet. And, as others have mentioned, without a readily supply of ammo, it's just another 6.8 Western waiting to die. I'll just stick with my Valkyrie if I want to shoot heavy match .224 caliber bullets. At least I can get ammo for it and not break the bank.

    • @epfd217
      @epfd217 Рік тому +2

      Speaking of a cartridge that's not supported in the market. I have a Valk and it's been relegated to a handloaders cartridge.

    • @rossbaker5034
      @rossbaker5034 Рік тому

      I have no problems finding factory Valkyrie ammo in stores or online. The only reason I can see for reloading is for specific bullets not loaded by current manufacturers.@@epfd217

    • @davefritts6003
      @davefritts6003 Рік тому +1

      The 250.imp smokes them all, my 40x shoots 4000+ 5shot groups in the 1s and has killed more coyotes than parvo"

    • @johnathanreckrodt2937
      @johnathanreckrodt2937 Рік тому

      @@davefritts6003which is just essentially the 22 Creedmoor but way more brass work.

  • @craigmyers5569
    @craigmyers5569 Рік тому +3

    Curious how traditional 68 and 75 bthp match bullets perform in the 22 ARC

  • @everythingphil9376
    @everythingphil9376 Рік тому +2

    When do you plan to release 22 ARC dies and reloading data?

  • @nateaggie
    @nateaggie 9 місяців тому

    I love that you guys make these, and that there is a market for it, but I'll probably stick to 5.56 Nato, 243 Winchester, 270 Remington, 7 Rem Mag, 308 Winchester, etc. for the various calibers. I may end up with a 6.5 Creedmoor, because it may be the most prevalent .264 cartridge now. For me rifles are for about survival and war. Maybe if I had more money to play with, I'd indulge in these optimized and accurized cartridges. I'm not a hater. Like I said, I'm glad more people are getting into this stuff and that it is successful.

  • @michaelcervantez3570
    @michaelcervantez3570 3 місяці тому +1

    I have a 6 ARC. I was seriously thinking about getting a 22 ARC until I saw the price of the ammo. For the same bullet, ELD VT, the 22 was three dollars more, WTF! Unless Hornady lowers the price of the 22 ARC, I will stick with my 6 ARC. I want to shoot the 22, but only if it's cheaper.

  • @msb2948
    @msb2948 Рік тому +3

    Are we being 6.8 Westerned by Hornady?

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies Рік тому

      Now there's a blast from the past. Never seen one except for pictures and hype in Shooting Times magazines 40-50 years ago. Meanwhile, the 270 Win is STILL king of the prairie and always will be.

  • @buddysumner4022
    @buddysumner4022 Рік тому +10

    This is why hornady is the best ammo company in the world, they don’t rest on there lore’s they keep introducing new and improved cartridges year after year, while the other American companies are to busy saling out to other country’s,

  • @DanConnelly-t8r
    @DanConnelly-t8r Рік тому +2

    I want to work there. Love this technology

  • @MrTacklebury
    @MrTacklebury Рік тому +1

    Unfortunately, where I live, you cannot use centerfire at night. 8(... What can we do to get you guys to still make the base brass though for some of these new cartridges. The PRS seems to take ALL the .375 Ruger brass and it'd sure be nice to have access to some of that. It's never in stock. Same with the ARC, now you cannot find your Grendel brass. Kind of sad.

  • @Kross8761
    @Kross8761 Рік тому

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but Hornady's whole M.O. seems to be to design cartridges that achieve respectable but still somewhat modest velocities with VERY high BC bullets and let efficiency do the job that raw power used to do.
    Like you've already mentioned early in the podcast, the .22 nosler is the king of speed in AR-compatible .224 caliber cartridges, but it can't use long high BC bullets and still fit in an AR. So with something like the Nosler youre starting out blistering fast, but losing your speed pretty quickly.
    I honestly haven't looked up velocity or BC numbers at all for your new 22ARC or the new ELD-VT, but if i had to hazard a guess I'd say its a 62gr bullet (which i have heard already) with a BC approaching .4 (G1) and starting iut at probably 2800+fps which i imagine would hold its velocity pretty well.

  • @shawnrasmussen9994
    @shawnrasmussen9994 Рік тому +1

    I have been waiting on a 22 Grendel of some sort for years now
    When the nosler and valkerie came out all my friends asked what I thought and I just told them to wait for a version of a 22 Grendel

    • @dontbetreadin4777
      @dontbetreadin4777 Рік тому

      I've been waiting too, I have a 220 swift and other 22 cals and always said " if they don't have a 22grendel in the next few years I'm going to make one myself" lol

    • @tbjtbj4786
      @tbjtbj4786 Рік тому

      ​@@dontbetreadin4777look up 220 soviet

  • @unclebob540i3
    @unclebob540i3 Рік тому

    Seth, you are probably THE top marketing guy in the industry. I love listening to you guys, and even your marketing genius has not been able to sell me on this one. It is about the same yawn factor I had for 7PRC. I get it, everyone is out to recreate the "magic" of 22-250. This, just like other wonder 22s, does not offer that much more than the .223.
    I love how you said "who hunts with a 24" barrel", then go right into what it does out of a 24" barrel! Let's compare this new wonder against the .223, both 18" or 20" barrels, both with the same bullets.
    I am looking forward to trying out the ELD-VTs in both .22 and .243. Keep up the good work and supports the calibers you have already introduced.

    • @austinclark7006
      @austinclark7006 11 місяців тому

      The difference is 22 arc can shoot longer higher bc bullets that 223 cant. While also adding 2-300 fps velocity advantage. More accurate and more lethal.

  • @JM10344
    @JM10344 Рік тому +1

    This is the round I've been looking for or the 6BR. This is it, though.

  • @mountainman9973
    @mountainman9973 Рік тому +1

    But does it blow up fur and ruin hides? Let's talk about the important stuff like over penetration under 100yds. If you make a good shot can you save fur? Will it shoot the 55 grain V-Max or not you were a little confusing on that? It sounded like all the emphasis was on the new
    62gr bullets. I want hydrostatic shock that doesn't ruin hide.

  • @jonathanhawn801
    @jonathanhawn801 Рік тому +3

    What are the velocities from a 16" and 18" barrel, and what is the expected barrel life?

  • @forestgiest1380
    @forestgiest1380 Рік тому +3

    I was expecting this. But it happened quicker then I thought it would.

  • @pinslayer4579
    @pinslayer4579 Рік тому +2

    Small projectile fat case severe case shoulder angle. Every varmint hunter loves something around 22 caliber. Sold my 220 swift when I bought my 204. Swift had a terrible reputation as a throat burner.( Underserved with new metalurgy and modern powders) loved my 22-250 couldn't buy ammo for whatever reasons or components to reload. Same problem with 204 ammo components. Parker Ackley changed the shoulder angle on existing rounds and dubbed them " Ackley Improved" he also blew allot of perfectly good rifles into chunks mixing his home brew binary and trianary powders. Guess my point is we really don't need this new and improved 22 Hornady. Please keep us in supply's for the calibers we already own.

  • @tomsell6090
    @tomsell6090 Рік тому

    Matching a 250 while being in a AR. Well done. Been surprised it hasnt been commercial8zed already. We need more 6ARC options though first. By no means is 6arc plentiful. Ammo, Brass, would really like mote access for my needs now. factory 90gr eld-x offering would be nice in 6arc.

  • @bknott21
    @bknott21 Рік тому

    When will this be available? I haven’t found any manufacturers that are building it yet?

  • @dustinwallen2118
    @dustinwallen2118 Рік тому +1

    I don’t wanna assume but will it work through 223 suppressors?

    • @Greyzonecompliant
      @Greyzonecompliant Рік тому

      Im sure it will.
      If you use the same type of rifle if should be fine.
      I only shoot bolt rifles, some of my suppressors are not built to handle the heat of an Ar15 magdumping a lot of rounds i short time.
      But other suppressors can take that all day. Or at least longer 😅

  • @waynemensen4252
    @waynemensen4252 Рік тому +3

    It sounds like the same thing that all of you said about the 6ARC. I purchased a pro2a tactical 16" left hand for hogs and dogs. I believe it is 1:7.75. It doesn't shoot your 103, 105 or 108 close to MOA. I've reloaded 58, 65, 75, 85, 87, 100, and 103's. It took a lot of work testing powder ladders. 65vmax and 100sp are finally shooting about 1.5"@100. It's the worst shooting gun I own.

    • @joeld008
      @joeld008 Рік тому

      Why do you think that is? Do you think that has something to do with the design of the cartridge? If none of the ammo you shot worked to your expectations… do you think it might be a gun issue?

    • @waynemensen4252
      @waynemensen4252 Рік тому

      @joeld008 I'm not certain. It may be one of those that the barrel did need a break in. I don't want to go through my test ladders again. But, I think saying that they are going to like everything you feed them is an exaggeration.

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 Рік тому

      I've not heard of that barrel-maker. 6mm Grendels have been shooting accurately for at least 15 years from reputable barrel-makers.

    • @waynemensen4252
      @waynemensen4252 Рік тому

      @@LRRPFco52 you should buy three of these then. There magic. They'll shoot any pill you put in them.

  • @DKsupreme69420
    @DKsupreme69420 Рік тому +2

    So can we expect the eld-vt bullet in the upcoming 22 creedmoor ammo?

    • @TomL3grandsons
      @TomL3grandsons Рік тому

      So the 22 Creedmoor is a 6.5 cr necked down and 22 arc is 6.5 Grendel necked down?

    • @DKsupreme69420
      @DKsupreme69420 Рік тому +1

      @@TomL3grandsons in the case of the creedmoor yes, 22 arc is based off of 6arc which has the same bolt face as 6.5 Grendel but has a number of geometry changes that make it different than just being necked down.

    • @TomL3grandsons
      @TomL3grandsons Рік тому

      @@DKsupreme69420 Thank You

    • @austinclark7006
      @austinclark7006 11 місяців тому

      @@DKsupreme69420its actually a necked down 6.5 grendel. 6 arc is its own case based on the 6.5 grendel

    • @austinclark7006
      @austinclark7006 11 місяців тому

      @@TomL3grandsonsyes exactly

  • @user-vg3yc6gk5f
    @user-vg3yc6gk5f Рік тому +3

    Did the guy in the green shirt used to do ShamWow commercials?

    • @paulscountry456
      @paulscountry456 Рік тому +1

      Lol, oh no

    • @mrjeffjob
      @mrjeffjob Рік тому

      He doesn’t look anything like Billy. 😎🤷🏼‍♂️😊

  • @TXGRunner
    @TXGRunner Рік тому +3

    Seriously, another cartridge? I bought into 6mm ARC, I have 2 rifles in 6mm ARC, but no ammo. It's almost impossible to find. When I do find it, it's as much as Weatherby ammo was in 2019. So much for the military ever adopting it, which was heavily implied in your launch marketing. I have 2 rifles in 6.5 Grendel - a lot of overlap with 6mm ARC, but same mags, good availability at okay price when I bought them, now nothing. Almost no 6.5 Grendel available anywhere. One guy last year was selling loosies from a partial box at $4/round on gunbroker. Hornady only offers 32 H&R Magnum and 327 Fed Mag with 80gr bullets, except it isn't really available at all, and costs more than 6mm ARC. Speer and Federal both make loads firing 100gr bullets. There are easily many times more guns in 32H&R & 327, than 30 Super Carry, but there is plenty of that on the shelves. You don't make anything in 38 Super (again far more popular than 30SC), and your only 357 Sig loads are 135gr and 147gr, nothing in 124/125gr or 115gr. Again, way more guns out there in 357 Sig than there will ever be in 30SC.
    It's almost like ammo manufacturers are colluding, or, as we heard today about another major manufacturer, building up inventory produced as lower cost, driving up the costs with rumors of a shortage, and then selling at a higher margin. I don't actually believe that, but I do believe there is collusion between gun makers and ammo companies to drive demand by developing and promoting new cartridges of negligible advantage at the expense of cartridges that already exists.
    If there really is a supply limitation and Hornady is at mass capacity, then don't be like Federal and introduce another cartridge. If you must do something "new," release a 38 Super Critical Defense, a 115gr and 124/125gr 357 Sig, a 90-105gr H&R Magnum and 327 Fed Mag, or just announce you'll actually make ammo for more than half your existing catalog.

  • @andyjackson5392
    @andyjackson5392 10 місяців тому

    Placed an order for a barrel for my AR and ammo. Currently on back order of course. When will this be available?

  • @OGBRADASS
    @OGBRADASS 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a Cooper .223 in 1:14 twist. lmao - .100" class rifle, but you have to shoot 40-50gr bullets.

  • @oif3vetk9
    @oif3vetk9 Рік тому +1

    You touched on the subject near and dear to me, PRS. I love shooting gas gun. That's all I've ran since starting in 2020. Last year I switched to a AR in 6 ARC. I've taken the MI title 2 years in a row and the Great Lakes regional title this year so needless to say the 6 ARC performs. Only complaint is using super temp stable powders like varget or (My favorite) vihtavouri the ARC is slow. (I run a 24" barrel too) My loads mimic a .308 at distance. I was going to get a gas gun in 6 GT next year (Taking a year off from gas gun and switching to a bolt gun in open division) but this 22 ARC has piqued my interest. If I can simply switch a barrel and get more velocity and cheat the wind better and still use the mags and receivers and bolts I have then heck yes! Use a rifle I'm intimate with but have a faster, flatter shooting and potentially less recoil round for the cost of a barrel?! Sign me up for that! (Of course there's the whole dies/brass situation but I can run factory and build my brass stash up like I did with 6 ARC. lol)

  • @legrande1980
    @legrande1980 Рік тому

    The start of this podcast reminded me sooo much of the SNL Schweaty Balls skit

  • @TheChristonline
    @TheChristonline Рік тому +4

    How about you guys make a proper chamber reamer for the .224 Valkyrie

  • @fattigla
    @fattigla Рік тому +1

    I'd really love to see a loading with the 80gr. Eldx

  • @ryancrazy1
    @ryancrazy1 Рік тому +2

    22 ARC vs 204 ruger for varmints ? coyotes?

  • @Plumcraziness
    @Plumcraziness Рік тому

    As someone who doesn't have a dedicated varmint rifle, I have been looking to get something for smaller game, and I had previously been leaning toward getting something chambered in .22-250. However, up until the announcement of .22 ARC, I had also been considering .22 Creedmoor.
    It'll be interesting to see how the ballistics compare between .22 ARC and .22 Creed, but my sneaking suspicion is that .22 Creed is more of a barrel burner, and from everything that has been discussed and hinted at in this video, it seems like .22 ARC is less prone to burning out barrels. That's an important criteria for me, and will likely be the determining factor for which one I ultimately go with. But I'm also interested to see how .22 ARC (or .22 Creed for that matter) manages with not destroying pelts as well.
    Initially anyway, it sounds like .22 ARC really seems to fit the bill for all my wants and needs or a great varmint cartridge, while also being capable of whitetail duty, which is another selling point. If everything mentioned in this video is true, the .22 ARC just seems like it might be the better balanced cartridge overall. I can't wait for the official ballistics to come out for it.

  • @utahammocan2578
    @utahammocan2578 Рік тому

    I will need one of these soon. Any news on who will be making uppers? Thanks for the Podcast... fun, interesting and exciting.
    Cheers,
    Richard
    Utah

    • @blademan6075
      @blademan6075 11 місяців тому

      If you find one let me know. They will be few and far between or quite the opposite, the market will be flooded with them but the stores won’t even have a spot on the shelf for ammo. to feed them.

  • @jjgriffin3275
    @jjgriffin3275 11 місяців тому

    would LOVE to see charts on the hornady website comparing the 22ARC to the 22-250 like you did with the 6ARC and 308 and 223

  • @hendrickotto103
    @hendrickotto103 Рік тому

    Looks and sounds great. Did I miss something about the powders used in this one ? How versatile is it for handloaders using different kinds of powders ?

  • @longrangeautist6117
    @longrangeautist6117 Рік тому +5

    This cartridge is sick!

    • @Mills141
      @Mills141 Рік тому +2

      F u don't fail for this.

  • @gabrielrex7277
    @gabrielrex7277 11 місяців тому

    These ARC cartridges are similar to the 223 wssm, 243 wssm and 25 wssm . I have all 3 wssm and are very accurate but hard to find ammo so i reload them.Would be nice to see a bullet manufacturer start making ammo for these calibers or brass.

  • @robertlowery3918
    @robertlowery3918 Рік тому

    All based off 6.5 Grendel , Great for hunting thats what it was designed for with better punch too than 6 arc and 22 arc. I will stay with my 6.5 Grendel it keeps food on table and dont need another round to keep up with, Ammo getting to expensive and its not coming down. But for those thats on the fence its your choice good luck !

  • @rustyshackleford2723
    @rustyshackleford2723 Рік тому +1

    Wow, versatile cartridge

  • @chrisbailor733
    @chrisbailor733 Рік тому

    So what kinda performance is to be expected with the 80 gr ELDX?

  • @davidhochstetler4068
    @davidhochstetler4068 Рік тому +1

    It’s a great idea. But it would be nice to have available brass for what you’re making now. No one is going to pay $1 a piece for 6 ARC brass

  • @z987k
    @z987k Рік тому +1

    Factory rifles limited to Savage and Howa if we're lucky just like the 6ARC I assume?

    • @hornady
      @hornady  Рік тому

      Factory options with more to come can be found here: www.hornady.com/22arc#!/

    • @z987k
      @z987k Рік тому

      Not the cartridges, I had no doubt you guys would be selling those. I mean factory guns.@@hornady

  • @clearcreekarchery2895
    @clearcreekarchery2895 Рік тому

    Been a valkyrie guy. Gonna build one to run Nebraska sportsman series next year.

  • @richardcox2229
    @richardcox2229 Рік тому

    Thank you for bring up Critical Defense….. why do those not expand in ballistics gel or 1 and 5 gallon jugs of water ? And the gel was 3 different mixes and densities soft to max ? I’m not knocking Hornady but that’s why I started carrying another defensive load in my EDC !!

  • @kirkmartin2223
    @kirkmartin2223 Рік тому +1

    I need to see a reamer print but i think the 22arc just fits a niche that I'd need a wildcat to fill otherwise.
    Hopefully I can use the Grendel brass i already have.

    • @FXIIBeaver
      @FXIIBeaver Рік тому

      Outside of a 1,000 yard accuracy competition, what on earth does this cartridge fill that something like 22-250 doesn’t?

    • @hornady
      @hornady  Рік тому +2

      Both are fine cartridges! One of the main points of the 22 ARC is that it's SAAMI spec'd to shoot bullets that other cartridges can't without a "custom" faster twist rate. You would need maybe a 1:8 twist to shoot the 62 ELD-VT in the 22-250. That said, you could shoot a less efficient bullet out of the 22 ARC, which would be just fine, but one could say that you would be missing out on one of the major strengths of the 22 ARC. Definitely different ways to look at it but we just have to abide by SAAMI specs.

    • @hornady
      @hornady  Рік тому +1

      Or, if you're thinking gas gun you could go AR15 with the ARC vs. AR10

    • @kirkmartin2223
      @kirkmartin2223 Рік тому +2

      @@FXIIBeaver for me it fits the 400-800yd requirements way better than my 22-250.

  • @rogerray2545
    @rogerray2545 Рік тому +2

    Count me and brother get it on the shelf let's go

  • @HeathWhaley
    @HeathWhaley Рік тому

    @hornady which silencers have you found efficient in the testing and development of the 22 ARC? Standard .30 cal silencers?

  • @ironmikehallowween
    @ironmikehallowween Рік тому +1

    This is great!

  • @KurtOnoIR
    @KurtOnoIR Рік тому

    I had the same problem with 224 valkyrie. I was never able to get anything above 80 grains to shoot straight at any decent velocity. Made a 77gr tmk load that is a laser but never got that heavier bullet accuracy and velocity that was supposedly its claim to fame.