HOW TO Choose An Overland Vehicle
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- HOW TO Choose An Overland Vehicle
I run through the important considerations you should be using to choose your next overland vehicle. Forget about the badge on the front for a second, and look into your NEEDS!
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In 1990 I overlanded from Cape Cod to Las Vegas in a 1977 LTD station wagon it took 7 weeks 10 National Parks and 28 state and city parks. We slept in a tent. It was amazing Greg you are a fantastic story teller thanks
Very cool!
My wife and I have always applied the overlanding advice given here to our weekend 4wheeling outings as well.
Not afraid to wheel it hard however I/we generally avoid the puddles, rocks, crazy slopes that we can if an option presents itself. This way, as with the overlanding mantra 'vehicle preservation', we have 50% fewer problems & surprise expenses than so many others we have gone out with yet we make it to 'the end' just the same. In fact, we usually become the rescue & intervention vehicle.
Great advice here for both the dedicated overlanders as well as for the average local 4-wheel'n explorers.
Unless you are rock crawling, bogging, or competing just for fun, don't simply 'Armor Up & Send It' ... it's nice to be able to still drive it to work the following week!
Once again, clean, clear well communicated thoughts with sensible experience based advice. Well done.
Thank you kindly!
When you go into a new country. How do you find out the legal requirements and all of the traffic Laws?
Best Wishes! M.H.
For overlanding a person has to understand that the majority of the time will be spent at high speeds on asphalt, or hardpacked gravel. Our last long trip was from Northern BC to Cabo in the Baja. 5500km we drove, almost all of which was good roads at high speeds. Yes we took many back roads, and drove to some remote locations, but there is no way I would have wanted to be in a Landcruiser or Defender, they are just far too noisy and uncomfortable.
I also believe that the vehicle you choose has to speak to you, and mean something to you. I am a 30 year licensed technician, and Toyotas are by far the most reliable, I however will not own one. They are too bland, they don't speak to me, or give off any emotion, or give me any feedback from the road. Overlanding is a journey, and the vehicle is a big part of that, it's family. :)
Interesting, when I do that trip I try to do as much back dirt roads as possible to hook up and avoid the highway unless I'm pressed for time to get somewhere. Only the old land cruisers etc. are noisy, anything 20-25 years od or newer is fine and luxurious. You can also add sound deadening to the surfaces to cut down noise.
@@mark2073 I agree the new cruisers are definitely much better than the old ones. Compared to our LR3 though, there is still no comparison. Once we get to Mexico we do mostly backroads. Between here and there though is nice to cruise in comfort at 120.
@@Glenb13 We have done the trip a few times. First time was in our BMW 325xi awd. It is very comfy, but struggled in the sand. The next time was in our BMW X5. Much comfier, we had a mattress in the back, slept on beaches etc. We had planned to go in our Landrover LR3, but covid happened. I have back problems, pinched nerve etc. The BMW's cruise control is really amazing. You can drive for 1000km and never hit the gas or brakes. For me this is so nice for my leg. I find the lr3 to have firmer seats, but it has a more upright sitting position. I can spend 10-12 hours a day in either. I drove a friends Toyota highlander for 350km, and I had to stop twice to stretch. Whatever you choose, try and go for a long test drive, or a test drive when you are already sore.
I'm addicted to your channel man. I'm still saving up for an overlander to make it happen.
You forgot the most important criteria --- how COOL does it look?.....
Haha hahaha hahahahahah 🤣
That`s a good point. But sometimes it is better if your car better blends in with all the other cars.
Dan's channel is one of the best! Two points from our experience from driving in 38 different countries. We have had great success in renting 4X4s and outfitting them or renting rigs already set up for what we needed. In Africa almost every guide company uses Toyota Landcruisers, so parts are readily available. In Australia the Landcruiser is also ubiquitous. I am biased towards Totyota LC since I own two of them and have been driving them for decades. A lot of our driving adventures were decades ago when brand choice was probably more important. We never saw a Jeep when we were driving in Africa. These days, any solid platform will probably work if you take care of it.
Love your common sense approach to this whole thing ! We have had a pop up camper from four wheel campers on a stock 2007 Ford Ranger 3 L manual transmission 4 x 2. been to the Arctic Ocean, Alaska, Yukon, NWT northern BC, Alberta and northern sections of the Prarie Provinces as well as sections of Washington State and Northern Oregon. just came back earlier this week from a chilly camping stretch in Alberta. -18 C for a high Monday morning. overall we are happy with our choice but do realize that much of BC does require a 4 x4 to access large areas safely when inclement weather or road conditions are present. So we are upgrading to an older Ford Ranger 4 x 4. As I review your points in this video I am actually quite happy with the choices we have made almost 15 years ago now. yes the older well kept and maintained truck is a wiser choice. cheaper parts, more used parts, more after market goodies. less expensive to insure ! when you get caught in a bad situation, narrow tree or vegetation enclosed track all the pinstripes and scrapes are less of an issue.
THANK YOU for leading off with counting the number of travelers! So much of the "overland" world seems organized around singles and couples. (We're family of 3)
You bet!
Epic Family Road Trip on UA-cam has a family of 5 + dog in 2 jeeps. Check them out, that is a great channel.
Happy you addressed family touring. As others said, it seems a lot of tubers focus and give advice relative to 1 or 2 occupants. Everything has to be scaled up for more people. Bigger vehicles have bigger requirements. What you have to carry increases. Ultimately costs go up exponentially.
Couldn't agree more, it's hard to find information for overlanding with a family unless going with a HUGE vehicle. I like what Epic Family Roadtrip has done but can't see living in a tent for years on end when the vehicle is "home."
This is a great video. The main reason we went with a 4 runner was the simple fact...they are bullets proof and all over! Getting parts should be rather easy (if I need the parts).
Edit: I will be only in North and Central America
You can Overland with every vehicle. The most important thing is, it should be a reliable one.
While I agree with you, that's not entirely true.
As I said, it's impossible to overland with either of my two vehicles with three or more people. So they are immediately off the list. Also you can't go through the Congo with a modern diesel, so if you're aiming for West Africa, modern diesels are off the list.
And so on and so forth.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Yes there will be always some restrictions. But I already found the perfect Overlander for me. I made two trips to West Africa in 2018 and 2019. For both trips and also my trips before I choose a old Mercedes Diesel Van (MB100D). I know every nut at this type of car. Also you can get every spare part everywhere.
But it is only front wheel drive, but I've never had a situation where I really needed a four-wheel drive. And we drove some very bad roads trough through the Sierra Leone jungle.
For the time after Corona we plan a trip all the west coast down to South Africa. And I will choose again a Mercedes-Benz MB100D. By the way, my friend with whom I am traveling is planning an even more unusual vehicle for the tour. An old Mercedes-Benz 124 station wagon.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Than how do all the Europeans with their modern diesels manage to drive the whole of Africa? Many Europeans just take a ferry from Spain or Italy to Tunesia, Marocco or Egypt and than drive all the way down Africa either on the Western or Eastern route. They mostly us diesel, either in the big trucks you certainly came across while in Africa or with Defenders and such which all run diesel engines. Yes diesel can be a concern and with the truly modern once which need the AdBlue (Ithink known in the US as DEF), but even that you can buy in large parts of Africa and everywhere in South America. Also Africa gets many older cars from Europe and the youngest of these are now also in the Euro 5 range (so mid 00 to early 10s vehicles).
@@betaich This is interesting
Great video!
For me personally four wheel drive is a matter of finding nicer spots to sleep. I really like to wake up in nature...
Totally agree!
The thing with my Tacoma is.... I won't need as many parts! Hahaha.
I drove my first Jeep 40,000 miles from Alaska to Argentina and it never broke down once.
I drove my second one 54,000 miles around Africa and it never broke down once.
I've never needed parts, and that's not hypothetical!
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I can believe that. You seem to be the kind of person that keeps up on maintenance and doesn't beat it up to bad.
Lol toyota ftw but of your going to be a overseas get a 70 series land cruiser.
Another consideration is how are you going to use your vehicle when you aren't on a trip. If it will be your daily driver, and you have a long commute through traffic each way to work, you probably don't want to get a high mileage used car, and you might want to get something that already has comfort and safety features (navigation, blind spot monitoring, etc).
So true, our 4x4 is our driver and its fine. BUT we want to put a roof top tent RTT on it. This means generally a roof rack. Add both together and you get a vehicle that is too high for malls and stuff.
Another good informative video. Originally I was interested in a diesel for higher torque and also looked into a RH vehicle for the cool factor. I then took your advice from previous videos and did not get a diesel or right hand drive so I can go to more places (Central & S America) and more remote places (Nigeria and DRCongo). So, I took your advice and I chose a Jeep. The Jeep is good for the factors you mentioned, plus you said in this video that the Jeep is a world vehicle, so you added a new reason. Another plus for the Jeep is I like to go topless with the option to put the windshield down on occasion. It really is amazing to drive offroad and get the feel of a place without a top. For me it increases the atmosphere. I am confortable in a Jeep because I owned a CJ-5 for almost 20 years when I lived in Colorado, N California, and Oahu. This new 2020 Jeep will be harder to work on though because of the electronics and computer. I tend to rely heavily on YouTibe videos when I need to learn something new. This will be hard to do if I am remote and breakdown without internet. I planned on some typical spare parts and I am considering some electronics but I am unsure which ones to bring. So far over the past several years the JLUs and the JT arent having as many problems as the 2007-2008 Jeeps. Time will tell. I am stuck here until COVID gets better anyway. Thanks for sharing your experiences Dan!
Excellent video : you've kept it straight and simple, as usual, and it is so true!
Building my 2021 TRD off-road Tacoma for overland, no need for big lift and tires. Just capable and reliable for North America. I spent time over seas in the military and I agree that the Tacoma would be hard to maintain overseas, would be better off with a hilux
It’s going to be a few years down the road but I’ve seriously considered the new Bronco for some North American overlanding. Going with all the base interior/drivetrain. Leaves room for options like the winch and other kit I want to bring with. Time will tell the reliability of the drivetrain which is why I’m not buying the first year vehicle. I love the 16” steel wheels and with some A/T tires and 4wd it’s as capable as any of the older defender 90’s so I’m not concerned about much that I’d reasonably encounter.
I bought an 30 year old, but technical 100% 4x4 Dodge VAN, with Dana Axels and 16” steel wheels with new 31” all terrain tires from bf goodrich
Thanks Dan. Great advice.
Great points. Especially the world vehicle point.
Can’t wait for the new build! Hope it does end up being a van. I’m currently in a 2012 JKU and have built it up for overlanding. However, even with a roof top tent, I still find myself longing for a van for the simplicity of setup and breakdown. Going up and down a ladder gets pretty old, especially in the middle of the night when nature calls. If money weren’t a thing, I’d be touring the Americas in a Sportsmobile for sure. Maybe one day, a guy can dream LOL. Thanks again for all the great videos!
30 years ago I bought a Chrysler mini panel van. My friends all laughed and made fun of it and me, a single guy at the time, and said I needed a sports car. They just didn’t get it back then, and frankly, they still don’t. I camped in that van every weekend all summer and fall. I always had my camping gear, mountain bike, baseball bat and glove etc inside. I drove that little front wheel drive down some great forestry roads and would just pull into any side track and settle in for the night. I never needed to drive anywhere if I’d had a few too many beers, just crawl in the back and crash. It was awesome and handy. It may not have been world overlanding (which I have also done) but I sure had fun. I see some of the incredible vehicles available today and dream, but I’m sure glad I just used the vehicle I had at the time to do those adventures.
Ricoman, sounds like amazing times! Thanks for sharing
Awesome content. Thanks brother!
Glad you liked it!
Awesome videos
Well thought out video. U hit the nail on the head... Your trip requirements determine the type of vehicle and how you set it up.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with everyone! Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!
I like your videos. Very clear and easy to understand. Very helpful, and the most important practical advice based on real life experiences.
Glad you like them!
Good vid. Some good points.
Love the accent. 👍
Dan, I hope you consider a Jeep Gladiator for your next build with a camper like the GoFast wedge camper. AT Overland also makes a wedge camper or a pop up. Other choices are Snap outfitters treehouse, Four Wheel campers Project M, and the Alu Cab Canopy camper.
Those are all great options, though if I drop that much money on the vehicle and camper, I won't have any left to actually go anywhere! I'm on a tight budget, so I have to build vehicles that fit into that!
Thanks for your tips. I own the best overlander, the Land Rover year 1970 but the problem with this vehicle it's a guzzler when it comes to fuel consumption, of course, is pristine and original, except for the tires and rims. But here in Colombia, I have lots of fun going around, but is not the one to go worldwide.
Land Cruiser Prado or LC 70 series Troopy or 4 door would be my ideal vehicle
Not Prado.
Can't wait to travel in my 4.7L v8 swap in my first gen 4runner.
Thanks for the great information! I imagine when your new build is done, your Jeep will be a hot item! Will you be documenting the build on UA-cam?
That's the plan!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Excellent.
If you sell your ill be interested for sure i love your setup and i know it was well taken care of. I live in Québec so it'll be à good excuse for a road trip 😎🤘
I think you should do a driving side video .
I think the biggest take away is that there is no perfect vehicle for overlanding. None. Zilch. Nada. All are compromises. Just know what you are willing to trade off for what you really want. I only travel in North America. After doing some research and deciding what I needed/wanted, I chose a Ram 1500. For my style of travel, and my budget, it was a good choice for me. Not a perfect choice, a good choice.
Absolutely right.
There are a vehicles that are good for a specific purpose at a specific time for a specific person.
But to think there can be a vehicle that is perfect for all people for all uses for all time... that's just crazy.
Jeep Wrangler has a lot going for it, but it would have to be diesel. It also inferior payload and towing to my 2009 Defender.
I have the sneaking suspicion youre about to build a vehicle that will work better in colder climates! Have you tried to winterize the jeep, to make trips in the cold better, specifically your pop up? That would be a cool video. I am in the process of trying to somehow insulate my Forester so I can go visit friends in Colorado and also explore Utah. I want to do this now, instead of waiting for warmer weather. Im no stranger to snow, or driving in it, as I grew up in Chicago. Im in Texas now and have been for a few years, so Im sort of intimidated by cold weather now.
No, I really haven't done anything to make it winter proof.
I would for sure add a heater, and I'd need to insulate my water tank, but that would be difficult because it's on the outside. Different vehicles and different goals!
Question/Topic: global health/travel insurance, immunizations compliance when quickly crossing many borders, OES/GPS locator rescue insurance...etc.
Thanks Kristina! I cover a bit of that in the health video: ua-cam.com/video/_ZvxTaicHgY/v-deo.html
One thing to consider is the price of the carnets you’ll have to pay for which is based on the value of the vehicle. So a brand new Land Rover is going to be enormously more expensive that a 10 year old one.
Although you can adjust your route to not need one at all if that's OK.
Love these down to earth, experience based videos. I am wondering why you are thinking about retiring your JK? What year is it, and what is the mileage? Has it gotten to the point where you don’t trust it?
I have a 2018 JKU, and love it. Also a 2012 Nissan Pathfinder with 163,000 miles that has been absolutely bulletproof. But when a vehicle becomes unreliable and can’t be rectified, it has to go.
Your JKU is iconic!!
It's a 2011 and has almost 180,000 miles on it now. I still trust it, but if I were going really, really remote I'd go over everything from top to bottom first.
Where I'm planning on going next, it doesn't make sense to take this one. Time for a new vehicle!
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Makes sense. We’ll miss the white Wrangle though. Lol
I'll miss her (Sandy) a lot too. But I'm working on a way for her to live forever :)
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Maybe an off road or 4x4 museum . Because of its achievements maybe the Petersen Museum in LA.
Best of luck!!
I’ll stay tuned!
So what will be your new vehicle? Gladiator with an Alu-cab canopy camper on the back! I’m not sure if it’s available for it tho.
Well done! Been following you for a while. I am curious about the countries you DID NOT VISIT. Africa has 54 countries and you visited "only" 35 countries. America has 35 and you chose to visit 17 countries. What are the reasons behind NOT VISITING a country? Thanks and looking forward to follow your next adventure!
Weather, route logistics, visas, safety, interest, language, some are islands, advice from others.
There are many factors!
My reasons for 4wheel drive to Central America are centered on Climate Change and its impact on roads, bridges, camping areas where flooding is a distinct possibility. Especially if there is no going back.
Ugh. I want a Bronco but Ford has taken so damn long to build one. He’s right. It needs a few years in production to use it for long term trips.
WOW! Good video. We are living full time in our Jeep and we are interested in Africa. How was that? We are currently in Ukraine nd are full time overlanders. If you get a chance could you point me in the right direction with some tips for Africa travel? We would like to go all the way to South Africa and back starting in Tangier and ending in Egypt to cross back into Europe.
Landcruisers.
Money
Wondering if there are any parts of modifications you have now; that you've upgraded your upgrades? Or any mods you should have just gone with in the first place instead of getting XX and using that until you realized it wasn't working for you.
Hey there, quick question if you have a minute. As someone who has done years of overlanding, what are your thoughts on larger overland vehicles? We are planning a big trip (3+ years) across multiple countries and climates, and have bought and Isuzu NPS300 truck to fully kit out a custom living space on the back. If we build out our truck the way we plan, it will end up being 2.1m wide, 3.1m tall and 6m long, and will weigh roughly 4t-4.5t.
We have looked at and considered all the things covered in this video, but I can't help thinking I don't see a lot of larger vehicles in overlanding videos, it's usually vehicles like yours or Landcruisers etc, and I was wondering if you had any thoughts about whether a larger vehicle was a good/bad idea and why (aside from the obvious, that we won't be able to get down some narrow streets etc).
Looking forward to watching more of your videos, I'm a bit sad I took a little too long to find your channel and missed your visit to my little home island in Tassie!
Plenty of people do it in a vehicle that size (I met a ton in Africa and South America).
A few things to think about.
National Park entry will be WAY more expensive. Like I paid $50/day and you'll pay $250 (USD).
More fuel consumption means your trip costs more.
Harder to get unstuck.
Less likely to take tiny "out of the way" routes like the one I took through the Congo.
Locals will see and treat you a bit differently - you kind of remove yourself from the "real" world.
But certain plenty of people do it!
Mitsubishi Delica diesel from Vancouver imports .
Never for me. It's Right Hand drive, and therefore you can't drive through Central America and a few other countries. That's no good for MY needs. Maybe yours are different thought.
I talk about this here: ua-cam.com/video/XG6tyH4G2WU/v-deo.html
I had a Pajero for 17 yrs (L049 chassis) which is basically the same running gear. Rotors, pads, filters, belts, water pumps et al were all just painful to source. Most from the UK. Also qualified mechanics were hard to come by. The older 4D56 was also tricky to keep the seals in the injector pump "fresh" due to low sulphur diesel. The newer 4M40 all pretty well need the injector pump rebuilt over 150K km - Not impossible but you really have to love diesel to put up with it (I love diesels)
But - Reality crashed in and when it came time to replace I jumped to the Prado with the 5VZF gas. It is a mirror image (save for the full time 4wd) to the 3rd gen 4runner. It is a dream to service and Canadian tire can look at if I get too deep for my knowledge. Everything I can get from Rock Auto.
As Dan says you pretty well have to keep to North America with a JDM rig.
You also mention an importer - They charge a premium., Import it yourself - My 97 Prado, 106k km all the way to Ontario - $ 10,400 all fees, truck, taxes and shipping to Ontario. BC importers were asking 15,000 before any fees for similar rigs.
@@TheRoadChoseMe they exist LHD also.
There are a French couple on UA-cam (Marioles) that crossed all Africa with one of those (and now are waiting down there to be able to move again on next continent).
They bought the thing for 8k€ already outfitted for travel (inc. a rtt) and in not too good condition. They repaired whatever needed along the road before to do a big renovation in Mozambique during the lockdown for an unbeatable price.
I am wondering what vehicle you gonna build!!!
Depends on where I'm going... which depends on COVID right now...
Which is the best landcruser gas or Diesel engine for Overland Africa?
Thank you
With the travel restrictions to go further south, do you think you may do a meetup some time this winter?
I can't go into the US, so it would have to be in Canada if there was going to be one...
@@TheRoadChoseMe That's what I'm thinking. Maybe somewhere in BC or Alberta. Kamloops is pretty central to it all, but could be anywhere really
for your africa trip you should have gotten a landcruiser or montero
Except that his Jeep worked perfectly and served his needs appropriately.
@@gusigb2677 And he looked good doing it.
Seems the Jeep did pretty well....
Never a single breakdown in 54,000 miles in Africa and I still drive it daily here in Canada now.
It was also much cheaper than a landcruiser.
I don't know why you think there's a "better" vehicle than that!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Seems most other overlanders I follow on UA-cam are using some kind of Toyota vehicle (particularly in Africa & Australia) with Landcruiser obviously being the most frequent choice. In fact you are the first overlander I see with a Jeep. In Russia they have their own version of overlanding using all-terrain vehicles (the idea is you go to remote places with a vehicle that is amphibious and is using tractor/ military trucks tires or even tracks (see example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherp). So indeed vehicles can be very different depending on the country and your own goals. I would even argue you don't need to own a vehicle to travel to remote places internationally as once you factor the cost of transportation and logistics it has to be at least a few months trip to break even.
You mentioned a van for travel, which van? The Dodge Grand Caravan has been around for years and is big enough for three or four with space for stuff. Would that be good? How about one of the Mercedes full size vans or the old style Ford vans?
To be honest I haven't really looked into them all that much, but I agree there are many workable options.
Sounds odd...lool up Forest Forest. He has a mom van he lives in (just him). But a Mini van isn't a bad move, honestly. Use the car you have and have fun 🙂
@@stout_tossme7541 Foresty Forest. He is worth a sub for sure.
What do you think of the Rivian R1T for an Overlanding vehicle? I am thinking of a Southern Africa trip in an R1T or R1S and trickle charge at people's homes. A good way to get to know the locals.
Electric vehicles are the future, but I think it's a while away yet before they're durable enough to take remote. Remember trickle charging that thing will take 3-5 days, and it won't be cheap for the person you're using power from.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Your advice is always valued and my wife and I love your videos. We hope to be the first electric car driving in a Southern Africa road trip. We would probably stay mostly in hotels just to charge and go on safaris when we can. Hopefully, we will meet at Overlanding east coast if you end up going next year.
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New diesels are no go ? Tnx
Wondering why not a Tacoma? I thought a version of that truck has been sold everywhere. Right now I'm without a vehicle and working on choosing my next adventure rig. I had an 80 series but gave it away 8 years ago to a family in need before I moved overseas. Sweet rig but not sure it would be good for more than 2 people long term.
It's a very common misconception the Tacoma and the Hilux are the same vehicle, but they share virtually no parts. The Tacoma is not a world vehicle.
@@TheRoadChoseMe thanks!! Great videos!!
I have an oddball topic bug out vehicle vs an overlander or can an overlander make a good bug out vehicle?
"Bug out vehicle" is a concept from the USA that I don't really understand... so I'm not sure I'm qualified to go into it actually.
0:46 why did he leave for 2 sec and came right back? he couldv just stay there lmao
Have you ever considered a camper(caravan) for trips in and around your home country. Thank you for all the advise.
Not really. I'm just not a trailer person. I don't enjoy towing, I'm not good at reversing them, and to be honest it's just more "stuff" to bring with you, maintain and look after. I prefer being lighter and simpler.
@@TheRoadChoseMe I imagine a trailer is actually also more of a theft risk. Plus more tires to go flat. And more fuel to buy.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Yes there will be always some restrictions. But I already found the perfect Overlander for me. I made two trips to West Africa in 2018 and 2019. For both trips and also my trips before I choose a old Mercedes Diesel Van (MB100D). I know every nut at this type of car. Also you can get every spare part everywhere.
But it is only front wheel drive, but I've never had a situation where I really needed a four-wheel drive. And we drove some very bad roads trough through the Sierra Leone jungle.
For the time after Corona we plan a trip all the west coast down to South Africa. And I will choose again a Mercedes-Benz MB100D. By the way, my friend with whom I am traveling is planning an even more unusual vehicle for the tour. An old Mercedes-Benz 124 station wagon.
Old Mercedes are an excellent choice for West Africa - they outnumber every other vehicle on the road 2:1 ! Have fun!
@@TheJourneyAhead I have an all wheel drive truck and don’t plan to go in deep mud or rock crawling. However, I purchased a recovery device that could be very useful in snow or mud. It is like a recovery tow rope but is designed like a ladder rope and the idea is that it wraps around your tires, front or rear, and uses the vehicles engine like a which to pull you out. I haven’t needed to test it but in the advertising video it pulls a 4x4 out of a deep mud pit. It could be a bit of a gimmick in a real off-road situation but would likely do the trick for me if stuck on a bad bit of forestry road.
Hilux they have everywhere, but Jeep Wrangler for example you don’t much in Brazil
No Hilux in North America
I see...
Easy, it’s a CJ, YJ, TJ, XJ, ZJ,
Don't forget Toyota FJ and BJ, HZJ
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Well the true is there is no Toyota land cruiser in Canada that's why u are on JEEP just say Land cruiser Troupy is the best in the world and I will subscribe I am joking thanks for your beautifull video Bob
Interesting discussion again...as for age: Don't buy a new (or near new) vehicle. Reason #1: you will be identified as the rich guy coming to town, triggering unwanted curiosity. #2: it may happen that you run into a total loss. Accident, theft, fire, whatever. If that happens, losing 10k hurts less than 50k.
One more idea, please: After finally buying your dream car, take your time to get accustomed to it. Don't buy in april and leave in may. From my own experience, six months is minimum to fix defects, upgrade equipment or have decent maintenance.
Good advice. I always go with the idea that you want your vehicle to be just intimidating enough to discourage the riffraff from bothering you. Look like you know what you are doing. A new vehicle with all the latest accessories and bling is a target, both for thieves and law enforcement.
Also if you scratch a new vehicle up on a tight trail, less angst will occur.
Bought my new 4Runner 6 months ago, I just do weekend and day trips so far (very carefully too) and will until it’s paid off. Until it’s paid off, I don’t feel like it’s even my vehicle yet, it’s still the bank’s.
Expedition & overland in Iran
Curious how the channel owner feels about the jeep xj/zj/wj with the 4.0L and aw4? I realize these are getting older now, but if your travels are limited to North America, seems like a hard bargain to beat for overlanding. The parts are overwhelmingly plentiful.
My first Jeep was a 1996 xj, and I loved it!
I think they're fantastic, though as you said getting long in the tooth now, and it might be hard to find a decent one that hasn't been eaten by rust
I need to find something enclosed for -30 temps, but also comfortable to be in, like being able to stand up inside. Everything I find in that regard is expensive. So my thought is to just save up for now.
Where are you going for -30 temps? .. I've done it, it's really not that fun.
For what it's worth, if it were me, I'd be looking at a van so you don't have to go outside from driving to cooking to sleeping and eating. Tons of stand up space, and a heater will warm the entire space. Also no canvas is a biggie I think.
@@TheRoadChoseMe I've done it, too, in my old hatchback. Cross Canada in December. Travelling in the cold turns a drive into an expedition, so it adds to the adventure for me, but it really isn't that comfortable if I want to stay in a place for a while.
I'm driving an old 4Runner now, and it's almost the same story, so I don't think I'll keep it forever. Having the AWD and 4x4 capability is nice, so I'd like that in whatever vehicle I get. Being 6'1, I'd probably have to look at a high roof van. Or maybe put a house on the back of a truck chassis. Anyway I look at it, something comfortable for long term travel in cold weather won't be inexpensive.
@@MarkRose1337 have you checked the Expedition Portal webpage classifieds. I’ve seen several camper vans on there for somewhat reasonable prices.
@@J.Young808 Thank you for the tip. I'll definitely take a look!
@@J.Young808 theres also the option of a truckbed camper with a pass through into the cab. Thats how I'm doing my build (because I'm actually planning to take it to places ranging from too hot (my backyard in the Sonoran Desert) to too cold (Russia) in the course of a world tour, and i want to be prepared for it.
As a bonus, if the vehicle underneath the trailer absolutely cannot be repaired, the whole camper can be transplanted onto whatever is locally available.
The plan is to start with a Silverado 2500HD chassis-cab, because that is, at the very least, going to handle all of North America.
Whats your view on a gladiator for an overlander?
You have to answer all of the questions in the video before you can judge any vehicle as an overlander.
@@TheRoadChoseMe ah ok, I did ask before the full vid was watched. But it would be a great one for my needs as I'm 6' 5" (1.98 m)
8:21 What you don't understand is that it's a Toyota and doesn't need the same support network. In most cases, a Toyota will get by with a bit of work, just like your Jeep.
Isn't it a bit inadvisable to cook with an open flame next to your spare fuel tank?
I've been doing it for well over 3000 meals. Never had a problem.
@@TheRoadChoseMe fair enough
Bad answer, gasoline is like LPG if you can smell it then it's explosive and the vapours can impregnate your clothes, you won't do it twice if the worst happens ha ha ha.
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No Tacoma? How about a Hi-LUX?
What about electric car?
In that sense Toyota cruiser will do the best
Drive in 2wd. And have 4wd in case you really get stuck
AWD would be a good alternative to 4WD.
Please tell me how ? I have the ACADIA DENALI AWD.
@@Swartberry007 in certain situations, you don't need 4wd. My AWD Ford Explorer waa great for dry dirt, rocks, and hauling. But i wouldn't take it in mud like I would my Silverado or my dads Ram.
Do you plan to replace the Jeep for your next big adventure?
It depends entirely on where I'm going, and that depends entirely on Corona, which is out of my hands right now.
I've said a few times, if I'm going to Mongolia or Nepal, taking this Jeep makes no sense. Way smarter to fly there and buy something - focus on the adventure, not the vehicle.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Forgive me, but you might be wrong. Flying to Mongolia means missing all those stunning countries along the old Silk Roads (Iran, Usbekistan, Tadschikistan, Kirgistan etc).
Oh, I agree 100%, and If I had the budget, and the borders weren't all closed for COVID, then yes, that would be the ultimate.
But if I have to compromise, that's what I'll do
I still don't agree with you on the diesel issue. At least till euro 5 standards or similar you should be fine, according to a un list I found of dsulphur contents of fuel (which is the critical part) the numbers go down steadily, a lot of African countries now have levels under 50ppm of sulphur with which new vehicles can run without problem. Same goes for south and central America. Asia even has the same fuel standards as the us and Europe in most parts.
Unfortunately that's not even remotely true. The numbers you're looking at are for South Africa, Namibia, Botswana and a few more. The most developed countries in Africa.
Checkout Ethiopia, Sudan, Congo, Mali and many, many, MANY more you have to drive through to complete either the West or East Coast tip to tip. They're over 2000ppm.
Same for central Asia, and South America.
I've met more than a handful of people on the road completely stuck because their engine shut down and refused to run on the diesel they were buying.
@@TheRoadChoseMe Countries with under 50ppm in Africa, according to the un environment program for 2020 are: Namibia, Kenya, Western Sahara, Marocco, Uganda, Tanzania, Mozambique, Zimbabawe, Ghana, Lesotho andd Benin. Countries with 50 to 500 ppm (with which a Euro 5 engine has no problems with) are: Democratic republic of COngo, Sudan, Ethopia, NIger Chad and SOuth Africa. Furhermore occasionally over 500 ppm shouldn't be a problem for most engines. I know a lot of travels that did it in modern diesel powered trucks. I also talked to an autombile engineering friend of mine about it and he said that most often the engnine trouble people have is the wrong oiled used, because even with high sulfur diesel the engines should run. The bigger problem is high sulphur oil, but even in Africa and South America you can buy the low sulphur kind. So you shouldn't discount diesel entirely. Also with some vehicle choices at least in Europe you don't have a choice but to buy a diesel, that is most pickups and heavier trucks.
In theory what you said is correct.
I'm not talking about theory, I'm talking about what happens in the real world with real experience.
The Australian couple I met had a nightmare with their new diesel Land Cruiser they shipped over. First day in Lesotho it shut down and refused to run. They had to get it towed back to South Africa, re-map the computer and remove the emissions crap with cost about $5k.
They also had to put additives in every tank after that in East Africa, so they had 50 bottles in the back seat.
They were sick of it when I met them in Kenya.
@@TheRoadChoseMe And I know travellers from the UK, Switzerland, Austria and Germany that travelled with new trucks around the whole of Africa who hadn't had any problems. Anecdotal evidence, is just that anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is neither here nor there. It also depends on how the engine is build and mapped from factory. Also in many African countries there are new cars rolling around also with new diesel engines they must function there or they wouldn't be sold and bought. But that is just another anecdote. You can have problems with diesel or you can't but doing a blanket statement that you shouldn't use diesel at all is not the help. Also as said before in Europe at least with some trucks you don't have a choice but to drive a diesel, because there is no gas option.
The new diesel vehicles bought and sold in Africa don't have the complicated emissions stuff.
The very vast majority of new Land Cruisers still come with the 1HZ engine. Yes, really.
What is your next vehicle going to be ?
Covid is really messing with my plans, so I can't confirm anything just yet!
I'd be more inclined to Overland into other places and four-wheel with the locals
In many, many countries in the world locals are not out four-wheeling for fun. They don't have the time or money for such activities.
@@TheRoadChoseMe so in all of those countries they don't have some type of off-roading clubs or off-roading outfitting companies
In the Congo? In Mali? In Gabon, Cameroon, Sudan and Mauritania? No.
@@TheRoadChoseMe lol who am I kidding I'm not going to ship my vehicle anywhere around the world if i can't drive it there or tow it on a trailer .
There are lebanese and expats off roading clubs in ivory coast
This is not about these vídeo, what you do to pay the travels you do, to have an idea. Thank you
I save for years and years then live off my savings. I also earn a little writing for magazines and writing books.
Don’t do a savings account. Interest rates are trash.
The Jeep you have now belongs in a Museeum, should be preserved after all it has been through.
Stay tuned, that may actually happen!
@@TheRoadChoseMe Please tell me the People at Jeep are stepping up to give you a brand new one given the best advertising anyone could dream of and they can feature this in their collection!!
Like Roothy's 40 series
So don't buy a Ford Bronco even though it is a far superior overlanding vehicle because it won't have as many aftermarket products in the next 1-2 years...sorry that's horrible advice. As someone that owns and drove a Jeep to KOH and was lucky enough to experience the Bronco, I think you'd have to be insane to pick a jeep over a bronco for overlanding. The second my Bronco is delivered my Jeep is being sold.