Nikon Z fc Review - Is Old School the New School?
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After 13k+ pictures taken, I loooove my Z fc. I actually got a fuji first, but am selling it. I did like the film simulation of the Fuji, but I can do that in post. The JPEGs straight from the Z fc look great, anyway. The objection to the PASM switch that a lot of people have is puzzling to me. My Minolta X-700 had a very similar selector back in the day, and I don't find it confusing. Neither did I find the Fuji system confusing. Either is fine. But to be fair, I just put the PASM switch on M and have never moved it since, and probably never will, so that simplifies things. What really seals the deal for the Z fc over Fuji for me is the lenses. The APS-C Z lenses are great, but so are the FX Z lenses. The 24-200 on the Z fc equals 35-300mm on full-frame, and covers 99% of the focal lengths I ever use in a single lens. Fuji does not have this option. Add the fact that with the FTZ, you can use any F-mount lens (that has its own motor if you want autofocus), and the various aftermarket options, and it's an embarrassment of riches... but that 24-200 and the Z fc make a completely reasonably kit for almost any situation, all by themselves.
Also, I've tested output of the Z fc side by side with a DF, Z5, and Z6ii and the differences between the photos is... well... trivial, really.
IBIS would be nice, but the VR in the lenses works really well. I would like it if a full-frame version was available. I also wish Nikon would put dedicated aperture rings on the lenses, which is my only real complaint with the Z cameras vs Fuji. Ah, well. Can't have it all, I guess.
Even though I own this body, I still go through reviews for different perspectives. Mine is set to M and the screen is always tucked away. I LOVE that it gives me time to enjoy my favorite hobby while delivering excellent results. I mostly pair mine with vintage Nikkor glass from the 60s to the 80s and the combination is magical! They add a great heft to the Z fc's light body and you get that vintage look, each lens has a unique character that I love. Most importantly, this camera got me back to shooting again! I haven't had such strong desire to grab my camera with me as often in a very long time. The manual focus with magnification unlocks the potential of older glass, and seeing how your result will look like in the excellent EVF is a great modern touch that brings the both out of tactile and vintage as well as snappy and modern. I cannot recommend this body enough!
Great description. Similar to mine
What’s your opinion on the body feeling cheap, and plastic? And it’s often compared to the Fugi’s I can only imagine in today’s manufacturing that a lot of these cameras are really a composite of plastic.
@@Blah-blah-sure there are no two ways about it. The body does feel cheap and plasticky, that's why using hefty older glass and adding the Smallrig grip makes this camera feel more sturdy.
@@kaminobatto got it. And you did mention that in your comments.
@@Blah-blah-sure I forgot to mention, the Fuji does feel more premium. I have a X-T20 and a X-T4, both have more heft to them.
This is good news if true because I will be 60 this year, and would love to be "new school" again 🤣
I own the Nikon Zfc and love everything about it. It resides in my camera backpack with my Z7 and approximate lenses for awesome photographic opportunities. Nikon rocks!!!
the pics from this camera really pop amazingly!!
strange I have missed your video's for about a year all of a sudden they are showing great stuff you are an inspiration to any photographer
Don't forget eye af in video mode and like the bigger brother (z6 n z7) you can power the zfc while using it with a powerbank, both of this feature is not available on the z50.
First, I have to thank Raymond for my Leica Z7II M system, it is my go-to setup these days.
On the "PASM vs A-A/S-A" question, I see validity to both:
* Set the automation in one step, see it in one place.
* Set the automation based on what is automated.
So while both approaches work, Nikon only had one option for the Zfc, because the Fuji approach *requires* an aperture ring, and the only lenses which will autofocus on the Zfc lack the aperture ring.
While Fuji has been using the A-A/S-A approach in their X-series cameras, Nikon has been using PASM in their autofocus cameras since... 1988. It has been in every upper-level SLR/DSLR from the F4 to the D6. So while it may seem awkward for Fuji users, it is very comfortable for Nikon users from the past 3 decades.
And for the film simulations, I'm much happier for Nikon to save the money for the licensing fee, it is such a small gimmick.
I think Raymond's two points are a symptom of "UA-cam photographers" who have the luxury, and almost job requirement, to use many camera systems. Most photographers, especially those who would consider the Zfc, seem to have their one or two brands, making the comfort with Fuji less of a factor for them.
Hopefully in 2022, if it is easier to travel a bit more, and I go somewhere with a high "pickpocket" risk, a Zfc paired with a Voigtlander 35mm M-mount lens will be less appealing to steal while still having incredible image quality in a small, light package.
Good, thorough review. I’d like this camera for a travel and video camera. I really like the Fuji and see Raymond’s point about the PASM setting. However, I have a dozen or so F mount lenses so it’s hard to think about switching systems. If Nikon ever makes an FTZ with the screw drive autofocus, I’ll be locked in for life.
got mine, the PASM didn't confuse me at all, as I never owned a Fuji, love the throwback styling. Also, the fact that the 28mm prime that comes out with Zfc actually is a full frame lens seems like a sign that the next one will be full frame body, maybe:)
It's not confusing. Until you're working quickly, change the shutter speed dial, and nothing happens.
@@scraymond5597 yeah, avoid the the shutter dial on A mode.
This camera is gorgeous and I already got a Z6II but if had to buy a second camera it would be an used XT3. I want to see what is all the fuzz about Fuji colors and JPEGs
Fuji can be addictive, the film modes can be brilliant but they won’t always deliver in every scenario, Fuji colour can be a bit niche which is why I prefer Nikon & Canon . I have the XT2 & even that had lost quite a bit of the original Fuji magic XT1 & XPro 1 etc from which the fuss stems. Chasing specs doesn’t always pay off.
Same here!!! But xt4 for stabilization. Then I can put any lens manual or adapted lens and be able to get great photos hand held. Sensor stabilization is very important too me nowadays.
@@erichramone7812 if you don’t have a Fuji yet , I’d wait . The next gen BSI Xtrans sensor was announced at the recent Fuji summit & will come next year probably. So you will mostly get discounts on the XT4 or wait for the xt5.
@@Vaptomwen oh wow nice great idea!
Hey Raymond, your critique of the interface is vey well expressed and the Fuji logic is simple and appealing.
But you might have given Nikon a bit more credit for being faithful to their own interface heritage. The Zfc and Df are completely consistent with Nikon film cameras. Old Nikon cameras never worked the Fuji way.
The FA and F4 have PASM dials separate from the shutter speed dial. Many other Nikon bodies (including the one you show) have separate A and P positions on the shutter dial.
Old Nikon users (like me) are used to this. It may be confusing for the shutter dial to be redundant in some modes. But there is an advantage in being able to switch modes quickly and leave your shutter setting as is.
The ISO dial can also become a “minimum ISO” dial, which is kind of cool.
Perhaps you could point this out in your next review ;)
Darn Nikon..they come out with a digital camera that looks just about identical to my beloved Nikon FM film SLR after I plunked down cash for a Fujifilm X100F a couple of years ago. I bought the Fujifilm for an easy to carry 'travel camera' for those times I didn't want to carry a bulkier SLR with lenses and it fulfills that function perfectly. At first I was intimidated by it's plethora of buttons, dials and menu functions but I've grown to like it. Had the Nikon Zfc been available at the time however, that would have been a no-brainer I would have chose it instead if for no other reason that it looks like and has similar control locations to my film SLR's.
I am hoping for a Nikon Full Frame Zf. Hopefully full manual controls. No need for PAS. Just M. Match it with the new Nikon compact primes 28mm F2.8 Z and 40mm F2 Z and it will be a fantastic combo.
You are not alone. There are a lot of commenters across all of my social media saying the same thing - they want a full frame retro-styled Nikon Z body!
I just got the Zfc body as a second camera to my Z6ii.
I use the Z6ii and also Lumix S5 for video too but travelling abroad I didn’t want to take 2 lens systems (Z and l mount) with me due to weight and space restrictions but needed photo backup plus something I can use for video on a tripod for example in addition to the Z6ii.
The crop factor also gives me some extra flexibility.
I already have a good selection of full frame Z lenses
14-30 f4
24-70 f2.8
35 f1.8
85 f1.8
Tampon 70-180 f2.8 (with E to Z adapter)
so it makes sense to just take the extra body and I can use the same speedlite too when flying.
I went from the 7100 to the Z5 last year and it just blew me away with how Nikon it was, if that makes sense?. Then last month I sold my 7100 and lenses as i had not used it since getting the Z5 and I got a seconhand hardly used Z6 and again it just feels great. I was looking at getting the ZFC but the different battery system and the lack of handgrip put me off
I'm loving this camera so far. It's basically a Z50 minus the flash that I never use and a fully articulating screen.
Questions & Thoughts. I am and always have been a street/cityscapes amateur photographer who would shoot some action. I stopped wandering streets quite a few years ago but am considering getting back into it. So, I am just starting the digital thing. I have and still own 2 Nikon FM2s with motor drives and a few lenses from 20mm, 35mm, a 28-50mm and a 105mm. I, also, own a Leica M2 (1958) with a Summicron 50mm 2.0 and an Elmarit-M 90mm 2.8. So, I have been looking at The Nikon Zfc (looks like my FM2s that I love) and the Leica D-Lux 7. Now, you know my spending price range. I like that my Nikon lenses would work with the Zfc with the FTZii adapter, but these lenses would not have built in stabilizers and camera doesn't either. I believe the Leica D-Lux 7 has a fixed lens and that I cannot use my other Summicro and Elmarit-M lenses with it. Can I use them on the Nikon Zfc, with its adapter? Any thoughts or input would be appreciated.
nice review i hope i will see the comparison between ZFC and fuji XT4 side by side
I think the PSAM dial will be helpful for those instances where you may need to switch back and forth between manual and a priority mode. The one thing I used to run into with my Fuji at times is I would forget that while I may have selected a shutter speed, I forgot to change the aperture from "A" to some aperture and thus the camera was in shutter priority mode, and vice-versa with the aperture ring and setting shutter speed to A and forgetting.
Maybe it would have been wise for Nikon to actually do what Fuji does with their XT30 and have an Auto mode, and then a non-Auto mode. So Auto would override all settings, and the non-auto mode would enable the shutter speed dial and aperture ring (or secondary dial) to be used and not be linked to eachother like they would in Auto or program mode. I think that would have made more sense, but perhaps NIkon didn't do that because they didn't want to be accused of copying Fuji's design and methodology from that perspective.
Exactly....today's cameras are all very good. As for the vintage style, Fuji has been doing that for years. Glad to see Nikon bring that vintage look to the game as well. When it comes to buying a camera, I think most of the newest bodies are way more than the average hobbyist needs. A used pro body that is a few years old is probably the way to go in terms of performance for the price. Good video, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
I agree with Raymond about PASM, I prefer Fuji's approach and in the end I chose the Fuji XT-30ii for its compactness, colours, and fun factor. It may not be the most cutting edge camera, but it's fun and got me back into photography and that's something that Sony, Canon, or Nikon didn't give me.
I immediately fell in love on first sight with it, but on second I'm backing off again. First, I completely agree with Raymond (and Tony Northrup) on the PASM/dial confusion, the mix doesn't make sense to me and seems as if Nikon was having PASM users in mind first - if a dial does nothing when I turn it unless I "switch it on" via menu or PASM, the whole concept is lost on me.
The second mistake to me is clearly making it APS-C, because the competition with Fuji in this field is immediately lost. Fuji has the control scheme right, has the right lens selection that 1. fit the style of the camera and 2. do come with an aperture ring, plus all the goodies like film simulations and years of refinement. If the Zfc was full frame, I could easily see myself (as a Fuji user) immediately falling for it as my full frame body to coexist with my existing gear, but as an alternative it doesn't work. I also think informed new users would go for Fuji if they wanted that style of camera, so the Zfc will probably only remain a stylish choice for existing Nikon users.
Or people that don't know to much about cameras and focus mainly on style. Nevertheless I'm happy that it was a success product for Nikon, makes me less anxious about my investment in Z systems
A lot of people don’t know this but for Nikon the PSAM approach has been around for almost 40 years introduced first in the early 80s on the Nikon FA a manual focus successor to the FM so it’s not surprising they adopted this approach. It’s in their DNA and very familiar to Nikon users
@@ericlarson2444 Yeah, Nikon positioned the Zfc firstly for the (gray/white hair) Nikonians who could vote with their wallets, hence a best seller right after its launch, against the social media noises.
I think it did its parts to enable Nikon to increase its cash flow with a part bin camera, served notice that Nikon's heritage still bankable, revives the old Series E lens concept as the SE series (plus other consumer grade compact FF lenses), test the water for a Zf that can be another part bin model (Z5) and opens the door to attract some new buyers or slowing down the exodus of existing owners to other brands.
Hopefully, the success of the Zfc will drive Nikon to continue the product line with a new Zfc II that includes IBIS, Auto ISO and better AF. Also, more compact and affordable primes and a part bin Zf. 🙂
Hi since this came out I am looking at it first all by the internet than when I had it in my hands around 1st of October I changed my mind more in buying it at some moment I own the D800 since 2013 and more than happy with it combining that one with my 120-300mm F2.8 OS Sigma and an 20mm F1.4 lens this year I bought the 105mm F1.4 Art lens .Now thinking slowly going over to Z mount camera body and start with this one .I still do hope that there is coming an FX version from this Vintage look but with IBIS and 1/8000 of a sec .oh and with the Smallrig L grip this one looks and handles even better I think.
Having a Z6 II, the idea of a second Z body does peak my interests as does its retro styling and the bundle with the 28mm lens. However having a different battery, a screen that gets in the way of straps when doing waist level shooting has me just considering a used Z body like a z7 instead. I would love to have a second body that shares the batteries. The full frame z bodies are not really that much larger than the ZFC either….so I think my focus is more on these new 28 and 40 mm lenses to cater to my small carry around kit when I want it. Who knows, maybe Nikon will make a ZF which basically puts the retro styling wrapper on a Z6 II.
Oh boy do I want to try out that 28mm!
You are by far my favorite photographer on youtube! Thank you
I’ve recently added the Z fc to my kit I have over a 100 Nikon bodies both film and digital SLRs FX & DX I’ve been slow coming to Z mount in all fairness.
I might have jumped into the Z system sooner but the lack of a AFD motor in the FTZ adapter which still hasn’t been rectified with the MK II adapter 😟
But I recently purchased a Megadapt first seen on this channel 😊👍 Thank you.
The lack of IBIS stopped me from purchasing the Z fc initially but I picked up a used Z5 with the Z 24-200mm VR. A lens that works well on the Z fc , again I purchased the zfc with 16-50mm kit lens anti glare screen protector Smallrig grip spare battery and HS cover for les than the price of a new body only.
I have atm fulfilled my Z system I added the Z 50mm f1:1.8 lens Z 14-30mm f4 along with a FF artisan 11mm f2.8 and DX artisans 50mm f0.95 lens that’s beautiful on the ftz body along with focus peaking/zoom function and its fun !
I couldn't warm up to any of the other Z bodies...liked the Z lenses but got rid of them with the bodies..Kept My Df.. love it.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings....as a Nikon user I found your review interesting.... however I haven't yet considered upgrading from my current camera...but food for thought... cheers 😀
It looks stunning, but I got the Z5 and a Z 50 mm 1.8 last christmas and have a Fujifilm E-X3. Together they fulfil my needs just fine 👌👍🔝
Fuji classic chrome setting is the only reason to get a Fuji camera. Im not into the black and white on Fuji. Would have rather seen a neo pan emulation. Now, if Nikon would concentrate on film emulation, Kodachrome 50iso, Tri-x400 , ektachrome, portra 400 and an ilford 3200. Would really love to see film emulation with Fixed ISO attached to them. NO one is doing that. We’ve shot with limitations for decades and it would be nice to be challenged with limitations if you want to be and then have an option to be limitless.
I've gone from hobby Canon shooter to hobby Fuji shooter, and I'm living the Fuji approach to controls.
The Zfc just falls short of that for me, and it's also an APS-C body.
The only way I could be persuaded to add a Z mount body to my collection, is for a full frame sensor.
So a full frame Zfc might pique my interest.
But then again, I'm pretty happy with Fuji in most respects and by now pretty deeply invested in that... Nikon is about a year too late for me!
It will probably make a great camera for anyone either already invested in Nikon, or just starting out.
Sounds like you're happy with your rig anyway, but for what it's worth the full-frame Z5 is great value and barely any more expensive than the Zfc, depending where you might be buying either camera.
@@rhythmace1 but you're missing the point about the controls.
@@KenCheng Well it'd be for Tim to decide whether the controls are acceptable to him. But he mentioned a full frame Z body, rather than necessarily a full frame Zfc specifically, hence mentioning the Z5.
I currently own the Z50 and D7200, so no reason to purchase the Zfc. I am thinking of going FF, but not sure which brand at this point.
This is a great video and puts a lot into perspective. I have jumped back and forth between Nikon and Fuji. I own the Z50 and just sold the Z6. I also own Fuji 100xv and gave the XF to my daughter during the upgrade. In addition - I also have the FuJi XS10 which has been my go to lately. However the FC caught my eye. Here is why. Nostalgia!!! I cut my teeth when I was 18 on a Nikon FG. I loved that camera and could make it rock. Then I sold it after it sat on the shelf. While I could still buy another for sentimental reasons it wouldn’t be the same. This little baby may just scratch that itch. But I don’t like a shelf sitter so I want to make sure I will use it first. Your video along with your partner was very informative and is helping me decide to pull the trigger or not. Thank you.
If it were full frame, then I'd have had it as I love twiddling dials. But as an APS-C? No. I've the Z6 that I love. Happy me.
Interesting review.
Thanks for watching! :)
Fantastic Camera, next design Nikon, a DF mirrorless version for F Mount legacy lenses.
Added this to my Z line up… couldn’t be happier…Z50…Z5…Z6…Z6 ii…Z7…Z7 ii.. now Xfc… Z9 is next…I’m a very well pleased Nikon Man
I shot Nikon F3's back from the early 1980's and purchased the Df body - and still love it. For me, it reminded me of that period and made taking a photograph an occasion - one is slowed down a trifle, but that was the point: certainly for me. I have a heap of gear: predominantly Canon, actually; but I broke ranks for the Df. I had no issue with the missing video (neither did the SLR's it harkened back to), but the FF D4 sensor was brilliant, and seemed to have been tweaked for better low-light performance.
On to the Zfc. I have mixed feelings about this. I love the idea of the retro look, am ambivalent about the video (I am still not a videographer), but I am disappointed that the sensor is a crop unit instead of FF - the original FM series were 35mm, after all. I understand the marketing benefits and see it as a wildly appealing camera to many: it seems awesome! Still, I wonder if they will bring out a FF Zf body at some stage.
I’m deliberately not going FF to save on weight , I want crop….
@@OutRAjious And that's absolutely fine. The choice is definitely a personal thing! {:-)
I picked up a Z50 as a "cheap" alternative to my Z7 for taking on the motorcycle. For our cooler weather walks (fast approaching!) it's great! The ergonomics are really nice, the kit 50-250 has given me some very good shots. So the Z fc, while tempting - I already have the Z50. PSA thing. Nikon nailed it for Nikon shooters, however; I'd prefer the Fuji execution - but then I used to shoot Pentax so I'm a bit flexible (just wish Nikon's direction for twisting of a lens wasn't backwards - very annoying).
I do wish Nikon would come out with a semi-pro high end APC camera. Add in IBIS, very tough body, much faster processors and bigger battery. I think it would get some traction.
Nikon is focusing its pro feature on its full frame mirrorless - Fuji has its focus on apsc
I love mine, it’s just so easy to use
I would really like to hear your views (both !) about the difference in usability, image quality etc between the Z50 and Zfc. The Z50 is getting on now by camera standards and is probably due for a refresh soon….that concerns me in buying a Z50 now. Thoughts pls ?
It is only 2 years old at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if they bring out a mkII in the next couple of years, but then it will probably be harder to get the deals on that are available now for a good while. I just bought one for a steal, significantly cheaper than the Canon M6 II and Sony A6600 that seem to be considered its (only slightly superior) peers are currently available for.
I was a Nikon user since the F Photomic FTN with the 50mm f 2.8 and here in argentina it was always hard to buy HyTech for a simple employe, my first digital was the canon G3 with all the features of a complete camera, but when the D200 made his debut I thought that that was the camera I wanted so I bought it, yes, until the D300 came out, and then the D700, and the D500 and then the D850 and when I saw the Zfc with his affordable price, well I had to have it, so well my next dream and hope the last one (I´m 79) is the Z9 with a Z 24-70 f2.8. I am Nikonist until dead (LOL). Congrats guys see you every time.
I wasn't going to bother with the Z-fc as I have a Z50 for when I don't want the extra weight of my Z7. Then my wife (a D3000 user) tried my Z50 and now I've had to order Z-fc to replace my Z50 that has mysteriously moved to my wife's camera bag.
Ha! You’d better watch that Z fc. You might end up with your Z50 back!
@@LeighAndRaymond This is what will happen. And then you will have two Z fc's.
Right on the mark, Raymond. If the zfc used the brilliant fuji "A" modes, id buy it now.
It likely would have also tipped us over the line to buy it. When I move the shutter speed dial, I don't want to have to check a second place to see if it's going to actually change the shutter speed.
Would like to try it but really wish Nikon would come out with a new throwback full frame body.
You aren't alone - I'm seeing this comment a lot!
I don't have the Nikon and not planning on buying one. Just came here to see Leigh. 🤗🤗
Z fc is not for everybody. It is for me though. I shoot manual and I use the fc to take complete control (aperture, shutter speed, iso, focus) to experience old school film cameras again minus film and film development. Nice to have video feature although I don’t shoot videos. Overall, a fun, affordable camera for sure. (note: add a grip, hot shoe thumb support, and top tier wrist strap for better handling)
Big camera, Big len, for a small size cmos?
You are 100% right about the state of cameras in 2021. You can have great image quality, ergonomics and build at any price point. The true difference as you going up through the price range is the extra features that are more useful for pros. Better shutter count, more rugged build, more memory slots and extras batteries, more buttons and better quality in extreme low light. For my not professional photography I can do everything with any recent model. The fact that I have the amazing Dual Pixel AF on my mid range APSC DSLR is nice example. As for the Z fc, I don’t like the design of classic cameras. That was the main reason why I choose Canon over Fuji in first place and if I had to pick a Nikon that would have been the Z50 or Z5.
The Zfc is going to go down as the camera that saved Nikon...from its financial problems, it has sold massively already. It is at a price point it had to be to sell. ( slightly more than the Z50 which it's based on). The ideal camera that it is for older photographers like me that can play with all the old controls if i want, and the younger vloggers out there with it's flip out screen. There you are a camera for everyone..!!
I do so wish my mrk1 Z6 had a flip out screen like that it would make it perfect for me.
If you remember me am not a fan of APC sensor or the plastic mount on lenses. Could Nikon make a Z6 3 without a flip screen 🤔 i don't think so the uproar would be enormous... it's the one thing i missing on my Z6 not all of us can afford or need expensive Atmos recorder.
One last thing i don't care for film simulation of fuji, if i want b/w or a blue tone or whatever Nikon can give me that. The market the zfc is aimed at dose not need this.
Great video as always 👍 👌
@@Joamonica It's definitely a tricky design choice, but I hear a lot of photographers don't like the fully articulated screens, and as much as I would like to be able to use them for selfies or the low-angle portrait shots I almost never take, I prefer not having first flip out and only then adjust angle in the vast majority of use cases, and also not have the angled screen sticking out to the side. Besides, on the Z50 and Zfc you can flip the screen 180% downwards so selfies are still an option (not a big selfie-taker myself but shots of me and my partner on holiday etc are good to be able to take).
You're absolutely right that auto should be a setting on any ISO dial!
Surprised by that fact about the relative sales success - the Zfc is a very stylish camera with great nostalgia appeal, but despite my long-held desire to own a mirrorless rangefinder with classic stylings like that, I've just plumped for the Z50 instead because it was about 40% cheaper!
love the z system and love the z fc design 😀
Leigh, Do you still own the Z50? The pop up flash reminds me of the D300. If the Zfc had one, I would order it today.
I love my Df, I remember the X100V being way too small and flimsy. I wouldn’t want the Df replacement to be any smaller or cheaply made.
My A7R II is a bit small too, but I choose to use very small lenses for that system.
For Nikon, my collection of AF-S, Ai-S and ZF.2 lenses has mostly big and heavy lenses and using the ultra compact Zfc without grip brings no benefits, besides I really dislike APS-C sensors.
One gets used to PASM dials but setting ISO in menus is time consuming.
I like the rendering of the Df sensor and never miss film simulations.
My guess is the Df was very expensive and didn’t have commercial success. One could have the D800 with 36MP for same money, flash and similar rear layout to the D4, making a perfect companion camera.
As a Z shooter I really wanted to love this camera, but went for the X100V instead. The build quality, other than the top dials which actually feel good, is pretty cheap feeling. The X100V is in another league in this regard. I also much prefer the Fuji implementation with the Auto settings. A real shame as I do prefer the image quality on Nikon and the AF performance feels more competent.
Nikon AF performance is better, but we still pick up the X100V a ton. X100V is definitely higher build quality than the Z fc, but they're at different price points and purposes, too.
I'm fairly new to photography and man do I hate that PASM wheel! I always leave the camera in P unless I need to manually take over, so having to change the PASM dial instead of just changing the thing I want to change makes no real sense. Traded that point and shoot with a Fuji and happy sailing!
Those beautiful light eyes in 4K👀
gets me into hypnotism🤩
Leigh and Raymond, thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with the Nikon Z fc. I am considering renting one myself to see if it will fit my use case. I am a Nikon DSLR shooter and I am looking for a lightweight camera that does both videos and stills for when I am hiking and filming my making the photograph videos in the field. Others have told me that I should look at Fuji but really to have one camera system without having to sell my investment in glass. Thanks again for sharing. You have both provided another great review video that is not helping my G.A.S😉. Keep up the great work.
Yes I’m considering it. 📸
bought it and love it
Is this camera any good for wildlife photography? THAT is what I want to know! Landscape not of much interest. I get the impression the Nikon Z fc is good for birds in flight. Is this true?
I have had the D7500, Z50, Z6, and also now Z fc. I think if you set the AF to AF-C Dynamic Area mode and set AF sensitivity to high, and you're shooting in good light it might be OK for birds in flight. For still wildlife (deer, elk, bears, etc) I recommend AF-S Single point and have a button set to AF lock and I think Z fc will be a perfect camera (the Z fc still has the same sensor than the D500, Z50, D5, and I suspect it's actually a BSI version because of how incredibly well it does in low light). But to be honest, the older DSLR such as D500, D7500, D5, D850 had better autofocus than the current gen Z7 ii or Z6 ii, mirrorless AF still has a bit to catch up.
@@TheFinalApproach Thanks.
I have no confusion with the PASM dials and aperture/shutter speed stuff. Seems logical to me. I'm disappointed with the viewfinder display. This is my first mirrorless camera and I was expecting a better image in the viewfinder than I am getting, so much so that I have hardly used this camera. Not sure if this is quirk of all mirrorless cameras but I find it disappointing.
Coda: So, I was inspired by this video and my own harsh comments to actually get out and use the camera a bit today. Yes, display resolution is still not what I would like but I'm actually enjoying the Zfc. I love the portability of it--went for a walk as part of my rehab and took the camera to photograph what's left of the flowers. I was surprised by the quality of the images, and I love the back screen and the fact that it can be positioned a variety of ways (important when one cannot bend down). The 16-50mm did a super job of picking out details in the flowers, almost as good as my 60mm macro. Definitely a great walk around/street photo camera.
I'm glad you got out there! Not all EVFs are created equal and they can take some time to get used to. :)
@@LeighAndRaymond Agreed, but I'm getting used to it and having a lot of fun with the camera. The variable back screen has been a godsend! Thanks for inspiring me to give Zfc a proper test.
Interesting. Thank you for posting. I’m still rolling with ancient NIkon D5200 and D300’s. Way past due for upgrading to current or almost current, but I don’t make money with my cameras anymore.. then again the old bodies and old lenses are not really fun to use compared to my iPhone 11 camera that is always in my pocket. I’m leaning towards a Z6 (used) or a Z6 II. I shoot video with Blackmagic Pocket 4K. Since I have older DSLR’s with questionable AF abilities with their and newer generation AF Nikon lenses, I shoot most subjects in manual with older manual lenses... which are not fun with D5200 (live view mode, adjust aperture, fire). The D300’s can meter with older manual lenses. In fact what floats my boat these days are the retro design lenses by Lensbaby (twist 60, velvet etc.). Lomography (Degaurotype Achromatic - not purchased yet) various Helios vintage or new models. All benefit from full frame sensors where most of the vintage lenses magic is in the corner and side. So if this body had been a full frame sensor I would give it more interest. However it does fit my sensibility however. For video I used to use broadcast JVC and now Blackmagic systems. I would like to get 1 camera to take out that when fitted with Atomos Ninja V takes great pics and 10 bit or 12 bit prores raw or similar BRAW which points to Nikon Z 6 II. Though to confuse the issue a Fujifilm GFX50 for stills might be really interesting in a year or two... again, I’m not making money with any of these, though I might again with video and I’m really looking forward to using my Lensbaby, Helios and future Lomography full frame retro lenses on a modern full frame sensor.
The Z6 II is a great body. If you don't feel the need for the extra speed of the Mark II option, the Z6 is also still very good and would save you some money. I use my Z7 with the Atomos Ninja V for 10-bit video for all of my in-studio videos. :)
I wish that nikon would make a mirrorless body for f mount lenes, full frame of course.
does it have film simulations built in ???
Fuji Clone? Nope, more like Fuji is an early Nikon Clone because this is Nikon's legendary throwback to their own FM/FE cameras.
in 2010 as a Nikon user since the late 70s I was waiting for Nikon to make this camera, it never came and fuji basically filled that gap.
I Kind of agree with the "A" settings but the PSAM is good enough, but being the ISO is left out of the PSAM setting mode's recipe it would have been nice to at least have an "A" setting on the ISO dial.
I think if Nikon included "license" film simulations it would cost more. Fuji does it because they ARE a film manufacturer and don't have to license themselves out for their Fujifilm emulsion digital copies.
How ever I wonder if like on fuji cameras, the Nikon Z can program and store DIY film simulations so you can get similar effects to your favorite emulsions from different makes, I haven't checked on that because I have been using post processing simulations or manually tweaking it myself in Lr.
Over my time with Nikon I have collected F mount lenses from all series, Ai, Ai-S, AF-D, AF-S G. I have also heavily invested in Fuji X since 2012 because Nikon stuck with DSLRs. I just got my first Z (FX) body and FTZ this past spring using my F glass and now my fujis are not being used. This Z fc will be my next purchase as I will sell all [maybe but one] of my Fuji cameras and lenses because right now FX and DX Nikon will have me covered in One System, and the Z fc will be ALL my Fujis in one camera.
Great review, este video era el que necesitabas para tomar mi decisión.
The ZFc is a looker for sure , but I’m not a fan of flip out screens. Also , I wish it had a joystick .However, the main reason I wouldn’t get this would be that Nikon doesn’t intend to make any APS-C lenses for it . I wish Nikon would prove me wrong , but I don’t see it happening .
I don't always love the flip-out screen either - it can get in the way. And it's definitely going to take some time for Nikon to fill out the lens lineup. Along with the DX lenses they already have, there is at least one on the Z lens roadmap. Viltrox is offering a few as well!
Others (besides Raymond) have mention that it is confusing, The PSAM, but it is the same as in older cameras where you selected one point and the camera did the other... anyway, i have never used a fuji and have used nikon since the 1990' do i see this canera and think fm10 of fm2 never a fuji. This could be my 1st mirrorless... just add the adaptor and all set to star with the system.
It's not confusing until you're in aperture priority, but you see some fast action that you want to capture immediately, so you change the shutter speed dial quickly to 1/1000th and nothing happens. Basically, you have to check the PASM dial, then check the aperture, then your shutter speed, instead of just the latter two.
@@scraymond5597 I get it, vloggers explain this. I have a questions, does this camare have (anywhere) in the viewfinder or the screen the S, M, A or P to tell you in what mode you are?? or are all comands in the menu and no bottoms to show you what you have selected?? I have the D7500 and the dial is very visible, also in the screen you can see a big letter (S, A; P or M) that indicates your selection. This shoould be enough, I think, maybe it is because I have shoot this way for 25+ years with mostly NIkon (just 2 years with a canon)
I only shoot stills, so this is a "I still shoot like I did in the 70s with my Yashica FX-2" opinion. I have a Z5. The Z glass from Nikkor is beyond expectations. I'm blown away by the quality EVERY SINGLE TIME I take it out for a shoot. That said... I won't get the Z fc. I have kept my D7200, the F mount glass, as well as my Lumix MFT cameras and lenses. Being that I still shoot with that old Yashica camera... there's zero the Z fc brings to the table that I don't have... I own, and know how to use properly. If a fire destroys it all, I'd probably go there. Barring disaster to my home, I'll like the camera, but I'll keep the tools that I have that can perform as expected and needed.
I too have a D7200, D800 and also an Olympus EM5 MKii for when I really don't have the strength to carry the Nikons all day. I am not interested in video in the slightest.
Yeah absolutely no point if you have a Z5 and something smaller. I've just bought a used Z50 to try out mirrorless before I commit to selling my beloved D750 to finance a Z5 + 24-200mm + 35mm f1.8 S. Thing is, I would have loved to have got a Zfc just to try using a different body format too, but it's about 60% extra for basically the same camera!
I prefer the Z 50 to the Zfc.
I have a Nikon P-1000 but I can't figure out HOW to adjust the thing to take "Multiple" shots. You know, Like a Burst of 3 to 5 ?
Anyone with a brain.. I lost mine in my other jacket!
high macro foto for ?? lens ?
I use Nikon cameras. I have a small stable of Nikon lenses, F and Z mount. I don't care about Fuji cameras no matter how good or bad they might be.
Great review thanks, and you’re still a really pretty lady 😊
I had a Fuji XT30 and XT5. They're gone. Before that I had a Z50. I sold the Z50 to go to Fuji because everyone on the internet and their mother raves about it. But after owning them they seem OK. The build quality is NOT as good as any Nikon. Fujifilm has plenty of lenses but their all the same, or MORE expensive than Nikon lenses. The Fujinon 23mm F1.4 for example costs $800. Meanwhile the class leading Nikon S 50mm f1.8 is $200 less new, and can be found anywhere for $500.
Also, the Nikon APSC 20mp sensor performs better than any Fuji sensor I've tried. I'm sorry, I tried to like Fuji but they're not caught up yet. The 20mp sensor for Nikon, used in the D500, D7500, Z50, and Z30, and Z fc is incredible in low light even with high ISO, and in low ISO the dynamic range and colors are nearly indistinguishable from the FF brothers. Go look at comparison pictures. The Nikon 20MP sensor outperforms the XT5, R10, R7, XH2, and even Sony previous gen FF in terms of color and noise at high ISO. Sony high ISO looks green, gross.
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I do not think it is "Old School". For me it is "ergonomic school". Having the most used options easily at hand is better that the navigations or buttons pressing of modern cameras.
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I shot the Nikon FM in the past and was delighted when the PASM came out. I hate the manual dials.
Nikon would hame been better off from a customer's view to add a wide angle Apsc lens or even a 35mm prime to the Z50 but alas no, keep the gimmicks going
Ps no hand grip in this day and age - Give me a break!
This was a weird review. I think you said Fuji more times than Nikon, and several times in the review, images of Leica cameras flashed, right in the middle of the talk. Please explain! It does not feel like a serious review to me.
Never touched Fuji so…
Might be fun for you to try. We have not gone deep into Fuji outside of many of our reviews, but we do own an X100V, which is a joy to use.
Cameras without any grip is OK with pancake lenses, otherwise hopeless.
Cameras without a grip are quite polarizing. I find that some people absolute hate them but others wonder why that first group have such a problem with no grip. :)
Should of used the F mount, there are already so many lenses available
I’ve been lifelong Nikon shooter but their bone head decisions keep baffling me, I’m seriously considering switching to Fuji
Do you realize that almost every mirrorless camera out there has to have a different mount to it's DSLR counterparts? The sensor distance is physically different on a mirrorless. Nikon/Canon didn't make new mounts just for fun, it's because mirrorless demands a more compact system and lenses have to be closer to the sensor.
Fuji clone? Lol
Its just a Fuji X-T4 rip off I was going to upgrade from d810 to z7II till I saw how Nikon have cut production quality and costs at customer expense so glad I do my own research instead of following advise from some of the bios reviewers out there. Nikon we are over I am off to buy the Fuji 100s :)
Sorry but these half hearted attempts to go retro leave me cold.
What retro feature are you looking for?
@@LeighAndRaymond aperture ring on the lens. Now, from Nikon, that would be retro. But they're likely unwilling to go that far.
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