Zfc Vs Z50 | Mighty Little Nikons | Both In Hand | Which One? | Matt Irwin 📷
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
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Very similar cameras, with very important differences.
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00:00 Intro
01:02 This video shot on the Z fc
01:56 Explaining the video setup for this video
02:15 Can Z fc do as good job as Z6 for studio video?
02:30 The comparison starts - external - the top
04:15 External - function buttons
04:38 External - the grip
05:57 External - looks
06:15 External - flippy screen
07:46 External - aperture LCD
08:11 External Connectivity hardware
10:05 Video
11:04 Back buttons
11:56 The flash
13:06 Power over USB / good cables
15:01 Extended shutter times
15:19 Price
16:26 Conclusion - Will they be the same?
16:58 Outro
Best comparison of these 2 bodies I've seen - clear, thorough, excellent 🙂👏🏻
I really appreciate your thoughts and comparisons. Need more people like you reviewing cameras on youtube!
I don't think you can underestimate the aesthetics I love the styling of the ZFC and am sure it will encourage me to take it more places so I will be using my camera more
It's great that Fuji and now Nikon get this! High-end enthusiasts love the hobby not just because you can show your friends and family pretty pictures, but because the experience of taking pictures is amazing. DSLR-type controls are wonderful fun, but the retro style gives enthusiasts something different. It's a great time to be a hobby photographer.
Right. I got the Z fc solely for the esthetics. I think the Z50 looks ugly and it's worth $100 to me to have the chrome top with dials even though I'll never touch them.
@@soaringvulture i hope you changed your mind! I think they're really fun
@@Cleverconveyence I haven't changed my mind. I like the camera and it works very well, but I still control exposure time with the back dial. It's fun too.
If I was looking for just the body, the Zfc might edge out the Z50. But, if I were looking for a kit, the Z50 2 lens kit + FTZ is still an unreal value at roughly the same price (literally the same price in the US) as the Zfc+28mm kit. I already have and use the Z50, I don't think i'll be upgrading until a Z90 exists, or a Z7 floats by me real cheap.
I have z5 and z50 already, but I would like to have the zfc too. It is so beautiful! Greetings from Finland!
Thanks for the comparison. I'm glad that you covered the front function button as I have come to rely on Fn2 for focus functions.
I love the look of the Z-fc but already have a Z50 so it would be difficult to justify having both. However my wife borrowed my Z50 yesterday instead of using her D3000 and she's fallen in love with it so there may be a gap in my collection soon.
I love shooting with my z50 all the time. The picture quality, function buttons, user settings, and ergonomics are great. Slightly better AF in low light and a fully articulating screen for hard to shoot angles would make this camera perfect for me.
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Great video Matt! Very thorough and clear - and so a lot more helpful than other videos I've seen. U modes in the dials vs. the menus, one Fn button vs. two, really understanding the differences between vario vs flippy screens, button layout changes ... these are important to buyers like me! Thank you.
I want to disagree with you a bit about the flash, though. It's not just about low-light, it's about balancing the exposure. For street photography, family photography, and any number of situations where, for example, there may be strong backlighting, a flash is always handy. It's particularly useful for candid portraits (think of the tiny built-in flash on the Fuji X100v). I think the real shame is they don't make the SB400 anymore!
Yes exposure fill is a very good point. Although Nikon’s amazing dynamic range helps me with that too. A flash can never be fully replaced I agree. Thanks so much. 😀
What I really want is a Z50 II with the Z50 ergonomics + the AF modes and flippy screen of the Z50.
Yes, me too! (if you ment AF and Flippy of the Zfc) I would also add charging while shooting and the IBIS. Would pay a lot for that. I currently have both Z50 and Zfc but would trade both or at least the Zfc for the upgraded version of Z50. Maybe it would be wise to leave Z50 as second/backup though. Zfc is good but the ergonomics is just annoying even with a grip compared to Z50 which is near perfect to my hands.
My thoughts exactly. That is why I’m still keeping my D5600 for the time being.
@@EvilRubberBiscuit For what "time being"? Nikon will never build such a DSLM, because they want to phase out the "outdated" and too much competed DX sensors and get customers to buy their much more profitable FX cameras. Basically all their products clearly point in that direction, even their DX cameras carry a "Don't buy me, buy a Z6 II, Z7 II or Z9" label. I mean: Nikon has managed to offer two rather mediocre DX cameras in three years, one expensive yet quite slow travel zoom plus two very slow all-plastic zooms as the only dedicated Z lenses with a built-in image stabiliser. That's Nikon's way of telling you to either "Go FX or go f--- yourself!" My reply to Nikon's polite suggestion was to purchase a Fujifilm X-S10 with two very decent lenses, the XF18-55mm/2.8-4 OS and the XF55-200mm/3.5-4.8 OS. 😛
Great overview, thanks Matt! I currently have a Z50 and Z5. I like the Z50 a lot, especially the grip. I’ve hesitated over the Zfc even though I’d love the USB charging, flip out screen and face & eye detect in video. But your insight into different ways to hold the camera has me leaning towards switching. When I think back (30 years ago!), my old film camera didn’t have a grip and I used it with some pretty heavy lenses!
How's your Z5?
@@humanfirst11 I actually ended up trading the Z5 and Z50 on a Z7ii. I loved the photos from the Z5, but it struggled to focus in low light. Apparently that is better now with the firmware updates. I’d still recommend the Z5 - it’s a very good camera for the price!
I use the flash on my Z50 more than I thought I would. Very handy for outdoor fill.
Yes outdoor fill is a very good point Geno. : ) And I think I don't use it much these days due to Nikons amazing dynamic range .... Of course a flash can never be fully replaced. Cheers Matt
I never tried that because it doesn't have high sync Flash, do you use a ND filter?
Not usually. The Z50 just figures it out. I'm usually just lighting up some faces trying to avoid a silhouette. Just holiday pics.
I'm still using the Dƒ; I was pleasantly surprised to find that it prints to 17x22 paper flawlessly with just 16 mp. I use my AfD lenses with aperture rings; too late for Nikon to go back to aperture rings. And the Dƒ is among Nikon's last "Made in Japan" cameras.
You only really need 12 MP. But if you crop then you’ll notice the differences.
Even though there's no need for another crop sensor camera in my bag, the Z fc is such an interesting little camera that after it's been around for a year or so and Nikon puts them on sale, it will be difficult for me to resist.
Watching this video again and I updated the Z50 with their latest firmware it shows Face detect in video mode but its focus seems to be the same as the Zfc. So the Zfc has the small box on the eye while the Z50 just has a box around the face. I think it is a different implementation by Nikon for this setting in video mode.
In my view a true Nikon FM for the 21st century. It's so much better looking than the Df was. Mirrorless helped making a body that mimiks the ikonic FM. I only miss one thing, that it would be a FX instead of DX that would be so cool.
Follows your youtube channel regularly. Nice to have a Pro photographer that reviews and views camera's and the camera world. And to top it of a Pro that doesn't diss Nikon. Keep it up! :-)
I bought the Z 50 but I did not know about the Z fc until your video as I am a social worker and just a hobby photographer. But I still think it hasn't been a bad choice. The pictures are great and it's perfect for what I do mainly street photography / graffitties and stuff!
It is so light and small and always with me!
And still better than the iPhone which is decent I know but there I am unable to change lenses as you know so limited in terms of flexibility!
thanks a lot for sharing your experiences and thoughts of the zfc.
also thanks for answering my question about the usersettings.
as far as i understand you, it does not have the ABCD banks like the Df has.
therfore a few more questions:
is it necessary to set the camera in AUTO mode to access the usermodes?
can the manual dials on the top be used while a usermode is selected?
about the usb-c / micro-hdmi:
i hope in future cameras the usb-c can be used with a portreplicator. there could be audio in&out, normal hdmi, power delivery etc. over just one port with a little accessorie part.
I was disappointed that the Z50 didn’t have ‘focus shift’’. So glad that Nikon didn’t skim on this value added feature for macro-shooters. Will order one with the 28 SE😊
Nikon's done it right with the Z fc, I do like my Z6 with user modes though, but can't help but find myself wanting to pickup a Z fc.
Love that little ZFc but just don’t want another cropped sensor. Really hoping Nikon makes a FF version. 🤞🏼
My Z fc is arriving on Monday! Can't wait.
Lucky you!! Enjoy and let us know how it goes.
I have a Z5 and a Z50. The smaller one is very nice to have when I want to keep size and weight down. I like the retro look of the Zfc, but I'd miss the battery grip ergonomics and the U1 and U2 modes on the top dial. I really wouldn't want to give up either of those. The style of the older cameras is a very cool thing, but I think the world of ergonomics has moved on. By the way, why do we only have U1, U2 and maybe U3? Why not press a button and spin a dial to scroll through dozens of user modes, with customized names? It would just be a firmware change. Hardly cost them anything to add to our cameras. Am I the only person who thinks this would be a fantastic feature? Matt, you're a Nikon connected influencer. How about promoting this feature to them? Please?
Yes Jeff, I think that is a great idea to have multiple User modes beyond 1,2,3 :) Cheers Matt
"Why not press a button and spin a dial to scroll through dozens of user modes, with customized names? It would just be a firmware change. Hardly cost them anything to add to our cameras."
That's exactly the reason why manufacturers don't build in features like that. They would only sell customers a camera once, the customers would configure their most used features exactly to their needs and workflow (or have them configured) and that's the end of the story. Another example: The AF hardware system in the Z-fc is the same as in the Z50, but the AF in the Z-fc performes slightly better, picks up objects a little quicker in bad light, has a face and eye detection in video mode etc. Bringing those features and improvements to the Z50 would just require Nikon to provide a little firmware update to the Z50 customers. But they just don't do that because they would rob themselves of an opportunity to sell the more expensive Z-fc if the cheaper Z50 received all the "new" features of the Z-fc. Customers always believe that manufacturers put customers' interests first. But manufacturers just don't. They put themselves and their shareholders and investors first, not their customers.
I have a question, please. Both cameras list a bracketing mode. I'm interested in HD bracketing. Might this negate the need for fill flash in most circumstances? Is either the Z50 or Zfc more capable of one press shooting 3 or 5 bracketed shots? Thanks
I love the idea of being able to carry around a small smart phone power bank and have it plugged into the camera for extra long video shooting
for my needs the zfc ticks more boxes - flippy screen, face and eye af in video mode, additional buttons on the bach, able to charge camera via a power bank - is a deal breaker for my needs, but wish it has the nice grip but we can always add accessories to somewhat solved that issue.
thank you for the awesome review between the z50 vs zfc.
I'm may add a Zfc as a replacement for my D7200. With my D500 I would have a foot in both camps. The Zfc a different proposition and while I lose some benefits over the 7200 - user modes, ergos, no focus motor, battery compatibility, battery life, I think it would be good because I would carry a camera around more for general use, get better connectivity, access to Z mount and the ability to adapt old lenses from just about any manufacturer. The gr-1 grip is available here so could possibly add that if handling becomes an issue. No coloured bodies though!
Thanks Matt for your video you did spend a lot of the video talking about the video quality. It's really interesting. I get a little bit sick of video comparisons when the average photographer will shoot one video we get take hundreds of photos. There wasn't much of a comparison in terms of photography and taking photos and this is why I would buy a retro style camera like this. Yes I do a small bit of vlogging, but honestly I use my GoPro 10 because it's light and portable when I'm out on landscape shoots and it fits in the side of my bag. I don't want to lug another camera around for vlogging on landscape shoots. But it would've been nice to see a bit more of a comparison with the Photography side of things as essentially, it is a camera. Thanks mate will keep watching your videos
I have the z6II awesome camera, but as a walk around / vacation camera, I like the Zcf- not just because of the retro look, some of the updates over Z50.
Just received notice my FC pre ordered from the Nikon USA website was delayed. I wonder if Nikon will release a firmware for better autofocus in video for the Z50.
I bought the zfc already, definitely I miss the grip, the performance of the camera is pretty amazing, it's a good option, nice video
Thanks for sharing
I have a Z50 and love the little fella. I do like the FC getting USB-C and ditching the touch screen buttons I aways touch on the Z50 and end up being zoomed in when not wanted. I am sorry but the flash is so useable on the Z50 for convenience and getting good selfies when backlight hard. BTW I use the Z50 on one hip and my D7500 on the other so I am ready for anything. A truly great combo.
Hi Matt, I went to my camera store just last week and I could try out the Z50. It is small and light, features I was looking for, because travelling is slowly getting possible again in Germany. But I decided against the Z50 because of the small sensor. I will stick with my Z6 because of the possibility of more bokeh in my images. I miss a selfiescreen, though and I'm waiting for small and light lenses. For now I'm buying the 24-50 z5 kit lense, but that will hopefully be a just for a short term.
Z fc is gonna be my new camera end of this month...maybe with the kit.
I need a small, nice daily-in-my-bag camera and I like it's look.
Although I can use most of my F lenses, I will get some Viltorx lenses (23mm, 33mm and later 56mm).
The Z fc and some small lenses will be not much heavier than my D800 without a lens attached.
I like your review(s) and videos - thanks for tge content!
I love my ZFC with its kits lens and 50-250 Dx Lens. They give wonderful results
Yeah Abdul, I agree it is a great little unit :)
Matt I want to express my appreciation for your content. I am not a hater on your channel or Nikon but very concerned with Nikon. Thanks for taking the time to be positive - I hope Nikon hears the positive message collectively.
Z fc all the way for me, well once I get rid of all my Fujis.
The old style or "retro" style of controls is what I grew up with and honestly you can't get more Fundamental than that.
I also think it and the Fujis are the best teaching tool for new photographers because you have your exposure triangle in full stops right there in front of you to play and experiment with. Was hoping Nikon would have made actual aperture rings on the SE lenses to complete the experience but oh well.
Hi Matt, picking up on the right angle usb-c cable, I have sourced and use MagSafe style versions to further protect the port - bitter experience on port replacement costs!! If you look for 10gb versions they transmit data as well. I use it on my Z6ii to connect my wt-7 transmitter as well as for power.
Here’s a link to such, not sure if it will work worldwide though:
gbr.grandado.com/products/20-pins-magnetic-usb-c-adapter-type-c-connector-pd-100w-quick-charge-magnet-type-c-converter-for-macbook-pixelbook-matebook?variant=UHJvZHVjdFZhcmlhbnQ6MTE1MTQ1NjU0&gclid=CjwKCAjw87SHBhBiEiwAukSeUS2-1dV2k6eomyf7CbzJFQUf61BjKAbaIXiY2oc1Cs62Y2i4F5JBKhoC7boQAvD_BwE&fbclid=IwAR0-kwzwuP5XIfi6DilA0bwoEiYBYcfn71slaoLD1peTlHgxKejvHULmG9M
But that would mean you always have to have the cover off right? because the magsafe style connector doesnt fit onder the cover.
Which is good for pictures and especially for video recording and which is more stable when recording moving objects fast
As a hobbyist who already owns a fuji xt1 the zfc appeals to me but I believe I would be happy with either camera.
I would love your opinion on wildlife photography, especially the shooting of birds. Which camera is best? From what you have said so far it seems to be the Z fc. Is that right?
It's a shame that the colour options on the Zfc don't extend to the back of the articulated screen. I like the brown version you have here but the black on the rear of the screen when flipped round looks poor. For that reason alone I'd probably opt for the black/silver version if only to keep the visual aesthetic throughout 😊
Hi Matt. TTartisan will be making three silver (metal) manual focus mirrorless lenses, specifically designed for the Z fc camera. The manual focusing lenses would be ideal to use with the retro Z camera, and pretty much cover most of the shooting needs of this camera. TTArtisian will announce new silver versions of its 50mm f1.2, 35mm f1.4, and 17mm f1.4 APS-C manual focusing lenses for Nikon Z mount, specifically designed for the Z fc. Now this would be a fun camera for sure. I’d buy the fc and these three lenses for Christmas, and have some fun.
Excellent review , greetings from Thailand
probably not a big deal but I wonder if it will charge while powered from USB and in use - e.g. streaming 4K, WiFi on etc. Just curious really. Great roundup btw - looking forward to more opinions once you have had a chance to use it in the wild.
Great review. Respecting people who would like or dislike either camera.
For sure Robert :) They are both great little cameras in their own right :)
So I've had the standard black Z FC in hand for about 24 hours, and I've used it a fair bit with the kit 16-50mm lens. These are just some initial thoughts. Optics are great. I'm not making posters so 20mp is perfectly fine. Colours are brilliant, and sharpness from the lens is fine. The AF is fantastic compared to my updated Z6. Almost making think about upgrading that, but I think I'll wait until a Z9 or Z8. Love the esthetics, and the usability of the dials. Menus very familiar, so no need for the chunky user manual. OK, so what are the negatives? Well, the body feels cheap. I would have happilly spent another £50-£100 for a tougher, heavier body. The plastic, especially at the bottom is horrible. For me, I'm going to keep it and use it when I don't need to carry the heavier kit. I'm even now considering keeping my Z6 kit lens (24-70mm f/4 FX) to use with this, which would give me a nice range with the 16-50mm native DX. Got mine from @graysofwestminster (UK), so received a lovely Billingham bag, lens cleaning kit and memory card. Good start all round. If Nikon makes a full frame verison with a better quality body, I'd be all over it. But until then, I'll enjoy this little spec monster.
As a somewhat "advanced" amateur with broad needs for a hobbyist, I found the Z50 to be not enough for me. I was waiting for a Z70 or whatever might come to be the mirrorless D7x00 or even D500. But the experience of taking pictures I think would be qualitatively different with a dials-first retro style body like the Zfc (or a Fujifilm) and for a certain type of photography I think that might be perfect, at least for me. Slow, contemplative, emphasis on the experience rather than capturing fast action or photojournalism-type images. Plus there's the amazingly tiny size! A Zfc might actually be a very nice companion for my D7500.
I like the Z50's button arrangement better. With all of the buttons on the right side, you can do everything you need to with one thumb. Much more convenient.
I want to know as i wana start versatile professional photography so which camera should i opt for under $1271 as i want it for a start!
I’m going to get the black version, the large black rear screen looks out of place with the brown version ZFC
I already have the Z50, so I won't be buying the Zfc. Like to see, Nikon upgrade the firmware on z50 to give the same video features as the Zfc. Great comparison; look forward to your next video.
You’ll probably be really excited that Nikon Rumors finally posted first pictures of the Z9 back. Basically the D4S without the smaller information screen. The 45 MP, 30 FPS doesn’t sound right, so the actual sensor size is still not known. This maybe a 3 x stacked 16.2 MP sensor from the D4S, updated and total output 48.6 MP. Probably made in-house by Nikon itself.
Thanks for the heads up.
I use pop up flash all the time on vacation for family photos at sunset. I was so excited for the Zfc but that's totally a deal killer for me. I also find that flash is super helpful for indoors when the lighting makes coloring issues, like my own house. There's no fixing my weird uneven house lightening in post (at least not that I can do) so flash fixes that. Honestly, the grip is kinda a must for me too and I'm a petite gal with tiny hands and I want a grip! Don't know how you guys do it without one! I really hope Nikon gives the z50 the firmware updates to make it on par with the Zfc.
I really like the Z fc. But I'd pick the Z50 for the flash. If you snap a lot of people outdoors with the sun straight up, on board fill flash can be handy. I would "never" film myself so don't need the flip screen. This video is a fine comparison my friend. You always rock.
The flash on it is really handy. The grip is good too. Those are the reasons I choose the Z50 over the Zfc.
I had the z50 and loved it dearly. I got too caught up in the FF debacle.. and moved all the way to the z6ii which I do love to bits however don’t believe it was needed for my photography. Just being honest.
Honestly (for me), the Z50 was super but the Z6II is a whole different level. This pair actually makes an ideal combo too.
@@MattIrwinPhotography oh I agree Matt, I’ve only started my photography journey a year and a half ago. Started with the d3100 all the way to the z6ii I love it but know I would have been better off saving and learning and then ramp up as needed. Just my opinion of course and my path.
I thought about the Z50 but just use my Z7 in crop mode for times when I would be happy with a DX sensor. I didn’t think about the Z fc, sometimes you have to follow your heart, mine arrives tomorrow with the 28mm 😁
Yep. It is a thing of beauty. 📷
I plan to add a mirrorless body to my Nikon F and Nikon AF digital arsenal and the Zfc is very tempting. Just wished it had IBIS, that would seal the deal for me. I need IBIS because I have a neurological condition that causes muscle weakness which leads to camera shake.
I could go both ways, doesn't matter really, both are fine for my use. The Zfc is more likely, as I like the looks, plus it gives me something different than my z7, and I enjoy using different approaches.
I think the big thing for Nikon is that those two cameras - very similar in a way, yet very different - appeal to entirely different people. Reaching out to more, different people is important in my opinion. Different age groups, difference in regions, difference in use result in different preferences. Good decision I think - albeit I admit I thought "not another Df" at first...
I am buying 2@ Z9's and 2@Zfc's and Nikon, Milvus, and Otus lenses. Been away too long. Oh, getting a mirrorless Blad, too. Already have film cams out the wazoo.
Always enjoy your videos! I checked the Zfc manual and the Zfc DOES NOT appear to have ANY user/preset modes.
The 2nd Fn button (for metering or subject tracking) and pop-up flash are invaluable. As far as rugged you can store your screen flipped over to protect it. Also, the tilt screens on Z#'s can't rotate 90 degrees down, to shoot over your head and not annoy the people behind you in a crowd. The USB-B port STINKS along with the non en-el15 battery on both. The Z50 wins this one for me all day long. Where is our Z500?! ;)
I SURE HOPE Nikon lets us remap sub-menu items to the Fn buttons eventually, adds Wide(L) with eye detection, and bring the save settings to the Z50 via firmware.
for someone like me, who likes to shoot a lot of star trails, the USB-C power is kind of a turning point towards the fc. i have a z50, however it still doesn´t have an option for external power. i would love to have the fc, so maybe later, when the price drops a little. after all, having a backup body is always a plus.
just got my Z fc + 28mm today, making an unboxing video now :)
Where did you get it? Is on back order everywhere.
@@ytr8989 first batch of pre-order from Nikon Singapore
I'm stills-only but I prefer the Zfc style flippy screen which I have on my little Panasonic GX8. I find my Z7 screen a bit annoying in portrait mode if I'm trying to go high or low as it only flips sideways in that orientation. I also prefer all the dials, so hopefully they release a higher end Zf at some stage.
About " plug in charging / power"....Is there a battery pack, belt mount ?.The reason would be no needing to stop to charge up or swap batteries.
I know another nonstandard plug is probably not welcome on these cameras, but it seems like Nikon had an opportunity to use their SD8 battery pack system that is used for the flash units to be a power bank that is versatile and uses readily available batteries.
Hi, I have a Nikon Z50 mirrorless camera and I was wondering do I need an adapter to use the NIKKOR Z 50mm f/1.8 S Lens?
no you don't need an adapter.
These two cameras illustrate another Nikon SHOULD do a D500 mirrorless version such as a Z90. DX has HUGE advantages. Smaller form factor, what many WANT and NEED is Small, light, and packed with power!
The ZFC is a wonderful little camera . If Nikon offered some nice F2 glass for it I’d be all over it . I also wish it had a joystick .
Is low light autofocus better on Zfc than Z50?
If some extra cash falls from the heavens, I'll buy the Zfc and keep my Z50 as well. I'm an old dog loving most things retro.
Great video and thanks
No problem 👍
Nice video, but as a photographer I would never ever consider anything but the Zfc if chosing Nikon. / Ulf
The added features make the Zfc worth the extra cash, the style is a bonus and make it appear better value than Z50
Yes that is pretty much my personal assessment too David :)
I do agree bro so excited to have the Zfc although i have already the Z6 & Z50
It was a toss-up between the Fujifilm X-T30 II and Nikon Z fc, and the Z fc won me over. I love the retro style, the features are complete for hobbyists like I and the image quality is awesome. The X-T30 is a great camera, features great lenses, too, but the Fujifilm RAW files are as much of a pain in the neck, or rather in an area a long way further down the spine, as is their RAW converter that requires you to connect exactly the same camera to the computer that you used for shooting in order to develop your your RAW files. Nikon's RAW converter NX Studio is a lot better and delivers excellent results quickly. The Z 50 might be a good camera, but it's unspectacularly unsexy; it looks like a Z 5 that was laundered too hot, plus a built-in flash. I never even considered purchasing one.
I'm so drawn to the Z fc, but when it comes right down to it the ergo's on the Z50 (an opinion based on using the Z50 and never having touched a Z fc - but I have several older SLR's and have used them I have a decent idea of how they work so.....) is superior to the Z fc. Now if Nikon comes out with a version that at least matches the Fuji XT-4 in specs - I think I'd be on it like a fresh BLT. I want a higher end version to justify buying it. Doesn't have to be full frame though.
As I look at the side by shots it seems to me the Z50 is a modern version of the Z fc and if they came out with a XT-4 spec'd version the Z50 I'd probably get it instead. I do like the smaller chassis format the Z50 and Z fc bring to the table vs the Z6/7. So I think Nikon should explore some higher end DX versions of these two cameras.
i read that the zfc has the same ability to recognize faces and eyes when the subject is small in the frame as the z6ii and z7ii?
It looks similar from what I have seen. However, I suspect that II's firmware 2.x (September with Z9 release) will use more of the processing power and be even better. Neither are on par with Sony and Canon. IMO, Nikon favors closest subject a bit too heavily and this is not adjustable.
However, the wide(L) with eye detection is even better. I hope they add this to the Z50.
have to say, if I was in the market for an APSC mirrorless camera, it'd be the Z fc if choosing between these two. not sure I'll ever be in a position to buy mirrorless of any description from my current perspective, so I may just stick with the DSLR D7500 because...... it works, it takes photos I like the results and if it works, why change it
@@MattIrwinPhotography precisely
So wait… regarding the power supply for ZFC - I’ve had batteries die in cold weather. Would I be able to have a portable external power supply in my pocket to keep the power warm, while continuing to capture photos???
In the old days, Nikon had an accessory that allowed the batteries be in one’s pocket and attached to the camera with a cord - remember?
I might have a stupid doubt. On a crop censor (1.5 x for nikon), does the depth of field also increase by 1.5. I mean.. does f2.8 provide a depth of field more like an f3.5 ? Hope I'm making sense 🙏
A late answer, but: No, it is actually the exact opposite, even though what you would be experiencing is an optical illusion. 😅
In the focal (sensor) plane the Out-of-Focus blurriness from a point light source, IE. the 'bokeh circle', is *exactly* the same in physical properties. diameter in particular, for a given lens set to a particular focusing distance. This must be true, since the focus circle properties is dictated by the lens and not the sensor.
_However_, the cropped (DX) sensor requires you to enlarge the captured sensor image 1.5 times more for a given final display size, compared to a FF image. So for a DX image and a given lens/focus distance the captured focus circle will appear larger. IE. in practical terms focusing is 1.5 times more critical / you get 1.5 times the blurriness on a DX sized sensor, compared to full frame.
Edit: Alternative viewpoint: If you swapped lenses to make the DX image the same width in angular degrees as the FX image, then the DoF would be identical between the two (but now taken with two different lenses).
@@ElectroTone haha thank u so much. Had to read twice but was worth it. Appreciate u spending the time to explain. Cheers
Just wonder about TZE01 adapter will fit on Z-FC ? Whether it will have same fate with Z-50 ? Thank you in advance.
Funny you should ask this Herman, I tried for a video I was shooting yesterday, and I could no get it to mount either ...
@@MattIrwinPhotography Well I have APS-C Zeiss from my A6K, which is I'm thinking to move everything back to Nikon env (BTW I have Z7). Anyway Thanks Matt
I was considering buying a Z50 this week, but for now I am sticking with my D750 until the Zfc is readily available.
Great plan John :)
Also , ability to import picture profiles
I just bought the Z50. For me the ergonomics are much better on the Z50 but more importantly is the fact that the Z50 is not as flashy as the fc, which suits me for street photography.
What I actually use the Z50 for is for fisheye photography so I bought the FTZ adapter along with the Tokina 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 AT-X 107 DX AF Fisheye lens. Unfortunately the Z50 does not have a focusing motor so it's manual focus for me.
If Nikon ever comes out with a Z50 II that has a focusing motor I might trade up. Other than that I'm a happy camper. OH yeah, you look better in CinemaScope!
Hey Matt. I'm looking for a camera for creating UA-cam videos and would like to stick to the Nikon platform. Would the Z fc be the best and most reasonable costing one to get? Cheers
What sort of videos are you thinking about? studio, vlog, etc…
@@MattIrwinPhotography I'm a dog sports and studio shooter so definitely studio and probably some out and about behind the scenes of sports events. So studio and vlog!
Hello Matt
I prefer the Z6 + 50 mm f 1.8 than the Zfc + 28 mm f 2.8 ; looks brighter, with a shallower depth of field. With the Zfc, i found the image too flat, less bright, and less contrasty.
No worries Geoffroy, when comparing them was this in video or stills? Or based on my video? Cheers Matt :)
@@MattIrwinPhotographyA 100% based on your video, in video mode only
Yes I like the retro look, I like the flippy screen for Vlogging, but going back to a cropped sensor???
For me that is a tough nut to swallow.
As a Df user, I wanna get a black zfc with a manual Voigtlander lens.
Would love to have a Zfc, but it is too late, i already own a Z50.
Next gen maybe?
I have the Z 50, and bought the Z Fc. Both great cameras!
@@bcp9814 Is Zfc autofocus in low light better than Z50?
Matt, the Z6 takes Cfexpress cards now, right? Can you update the firmware in the Z6 via snapbridge now?
Yes to both Tony :)
@@MattIrwinPhotography THANKS
Hi Matt,
The next iteration Nikon Z FC will even be more Retro! It will have a Flash Cube socket instead of a flash shoe... Hi Hi
Talk about retro...
The Accessory Grip will NOT be available in the US for some reason according to Nikon's specs.
From the photo of the grip, it looks awkward and I think it detracts from the style of the camera.
Regards Matt!
Rick
I just a used Z50 for a back up snap camera at events .. the ONLY thing that drives me crazy is the Touch Screen buttons for zoom in and zoom out .. I am in the US and NIKON here cant figure it out and I contact our friends at Grays of Westminster and that .. You CAN NOT turn off the zoom buttons functions at all on the screen. Why? if you are taking photos with the camera up to your face sometimes your nose or cheek will touch the buttons and thru the viewfinder everything enlarges ... that is a major pain. If for when I can use my Studio again I might get a second Z50 just for take video and I would use the ZFC for a walking camera for fun. I love the U1 and U2 functions and switch to them all the time. If anyone has a cheat way for this I would love to hear .. I have already tried gaffer's tape .. no good .
What do you think of the new pictures of the Z9 on Nikon rumors shows the back of them at the Olympics
Vid coming soon. 😀👍
Something else that gets missed is the lack of effects on the zfc. Then again, the Z50 doesn’t have as many options for post-processing effects in camera either (as compared to the D3500/5700 and D750/D780). I prefer to shoot in raw and occasionally add effects by in-body post (like the color sketch / photo illustration, in particular with some deliberately out of focus shots for a more abstract effect). I can understand that functionality missing on the zfc (and most of the Z FX models for that matter) to provide some product differentiation, but they crippled post processing in the Z50 as compared to the D3500/5600. If they added it back in the Z50ii (or even another Zxx body) I’d buy it in a minute. Better yet, incorporate the in-body post-processing effects into a version of their Capture software and you get that functionality for all Z and F mount cameras.
Matt, some other guy on his video complained about the 105 MC being noisy when focusing, did you?
Hi Paul, I just had a quick play with it. From my perspective it is very quiet. Some Z lenses are silent, so it makes more sound than them, but it is not noisy, at least my copy, I would not call noisy at all :) Hope that helps. Cheers Matt
@@MattIrwinPhotography I will tell him he needs to have his lens checked out. He is saying it was loud. Thanks for replying.
Eu gostaria de ter a NIKON ZFC. Muito bom o seu vídeo. Gostei do seu canal. PArabéns.
I don't understand the point of releasing Zfc. They could have overcome the shortcomings in Z50, and released a Z50 II. It would have been awesome. Only 3 improvements were required, better auto-focus, larger battery and IBIS. I'd have bought it without second thought.
The Z50 is more like the other digital Nikons, so much easier to figure out if you already have a Nikon D or Z series. All the usual buttons are in the same place. Because of the retro look there is a bit of a learning curve to get used to the Zfc.
Yes there is some new muscle memory to learn ...
Its the photographer that makes the picture, the camera is the tool. It just looks cooler
Hello Matt,
a note on the price. All moving parts that are supposed to work reliably in
the long term are more expensive than all the electronic features.
Ore why did apple abolish the pushbutton on the iphone?
So, logically, the zfc is a bit more expensive. This also applies to the
mirror reflex technology. Works perfectly, but too expensive to manufacture.
Ok, i had the Z50 (has been sold), the Z6 is still with me.
The Zfc has been ordered. I look forward to it.
Greetings from cologne
to down under,
Harald
Ups, I forgot the time. Here is 18:00, but you
are in deep night. :) Sorry ...
Great Harald, it is a beautiful machine :) And I agree, with say the flippy screen and more exterior dials, perhaps makes it more expensive :) Cheers Matt
Whether it is due to your limited experience or you've simply forgotten to mention it: the flash is NOT meant ONLY to be used in order to deal with the "poor light" - it also is very useful in a broad daylight, if there is a need to "kill" (darken) the background, for example while portraying a back-lighted subject, in which case you get the face properly lighted without "burning" the background. That being said, I consider the embedded flash unit on Z50 a much welcome plus over the FC. I wish my Z5 also had such flash "unit" (just like my Nikon DSLR cameras), but alas!, Nikon decided to strip most of the Z line-up bodies of this piece of hardware...
Hi Tor, I am sorry I don't remember what I said in a video made 18 months ago, but yes if I forgot to mention it, fill flash is always a useful tool. Regards Matt
I purchased a Nikon SB400 flash for my Z5; works in TTL mode perfectly. Works on my D700 as well!
Being an “old fart”, I’m going to say Z FC. it just looks like a camera while the Z50 might as well be marketed as a “tactical” camera. 😉
I just love the looks and while the functions are equal, the fully articulating screen and USB-C put it over the top on the comparison list.
Thanks for the great video! 😎👍
EDIT - I forgot to mention, I’d get the black one.