You know since the light saber is.... Super light the best way using the weapon is not treat it like a sword. Let me explain all you do is start wiggle it or shake it really fast. Nobody can stop you.
It's easy to counter if you pay attention, which is why he didn't start off with it and instead pissed off the Sith to keep him distracted long enough to pull it off. If not, he could have been struck down and countered I'm the brief delay between turning it off & on
@@cosmicgamer1262 usually it means that you're not skilled enough to deal with it, which would mean the person saying that would be doing said thing So since the Sith looked down upon Trakata as well, they would probably be like "that's pussy shit"
There’s actual reasons why Trakata wasn’t used 1. The blade deactivation works both ways, if you’re removing your only line of defense you’re easier to kill especially when everyone has precognition 2. The force makes everything harder 3. Lighsaber ignition takes some time
Pretty good comparison in a way. I'm sure a lot of people complained that firepower was dishonorable when it first came around. Come to think of it, we STILL think that. We still assume they can't "fight like a man".
According to the Sith rule of two. One of you is going to deliver the ultimate fuck you to the other eventually anyway. And you really don’t care what the jedi thinks at that point anyway.
Bro the Sith are all about backstabbing, conniving, and using underhanded tactics to win. They would ABSOLUTELY use this move in-universe if they could, the writers just had to come up with a reason why we haven’t seen them use it in any movies
@@landonmathews6111except the Sith are all about power. When one is more powerful than their opponent then cunning is only used as a counter measure. Trickery is used when you are overpowered and out numbered. A Sith that solely relies on cunning is not a powerful Sith.
@@DefinitivelyNotCthulhuTell that to Palpatine, who murdered his master in his sleep and ordered Anakin to kill a group of unarmed children. The Dark side is described by Yoda as the quick and easy route. You can’t seriously expect anyone to believe that a Sith would prefer to lose a fight rather than win it through cunning or trickery
@@DefinitivelyNotCthulhuno they aint they are litterally so generically evil its not even funny Plus if using this lacks power then choking someone out using the force etc is the same as that also avoids combat and can wipe a person out i one go with less risk of fail than using this lightsaber fighting technique in the video Force choke is litterally a bigger pussy move than this fighting strat 🤣🤣🤣
@@landonmathews6111while true Palpatine would have been considered losing his way as a sith, he was building an empire, which was not the siths aim, it was to create an all powerful sith
Exactly 😂 I don't care what any of them says if I'm in light saber duals I'm spamming that shit infact I'm developing an entire fighting style around it
@@MonteAdorableMaxhonestly I think the best way of utilising this style is with a double-sided lightsaber because once you turn off one side you then be able to use the other side to attack with you can also be tricky with it and attack with the side that you just turned off in order to trick them honestly I feel like you just have to be creative to make it work well
It's also very ineffective. When clashing, you're not aiming at the opponent's sword, but at the opponent themselves, so the moment you turn off your saber the opponent's gonna fly straight at you.
That's...not really how momentum works. The style relies on turning it off right before your blade would connect while also avoiding their's. The effectiveness therefore depends partially on the opponent, partially on your ability to avoid a slash, and partially on whether you're foolish enough to become predictable when using it. A phase blade can take care of the predictability to a point but since you don't actually control when it turns off you'd need a lot of skill to compensate.
@@DarkEcho32 Hm. I mean, I guess that makes sense. I keep forgetting that a lightsaber wouldn't really weigh anything, nor would it require good force put behind it to cut anything. Therefore dodging and attacking would be much, much more effective than with a normal sword.
In addition to what previous guy said, Trakata is extremely effective in attack, much more than in defense - as the moment your enemy try to parry or block your attack you bypass his sword
The real issue with Trakata is that it only really works with the element of surprise. You lose valuable time deactivating and reactivating your saber, and, if your opponent sees it coming, they can easily take advantage of the temporary defenselessness and strike first. In other words, it's similar to any cheap tactic- once you learn how to counter it, it's strictly worse than a more refined technique
Well, if they're all dead, because Grandmaster-bitch Liam the unsportsmanlike has killed them, they can't blame me for being.. well.. a unfair bitch anymore. 😊
And from Javik in Mass Effect: "Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer." Bioware still got some zingers
I now want this to be part of Darth Revan’s fighting style. If anyone lore wise could use the Jedi equivalent of Iaido and make it look insanely cool? It’d be him. Makes sense as well. Not quite a Sith not quite a Jedi… it’d be more than in keeping with his personality. Not to mention Revan was strong in the force, perhaps almost as strong as Anakin but he was allegedly not quite as talented with a light saber. A fighter like that may embrace techniques others would find distasteful in pursuit of victory and survival.
It logically doesn't really work either, if you're blocking a swing and then use it you either get hit by the swing since you're no longer blocking it or you dodge the swing and land your hit but you could've just dodged in the first place no?
Why are people acting like this would work? The people who are fighting have precognition they can see the future. They are going to capitalize on that split second of your light saber not being on and you are going to be cut from cock to sternum doing a massive split.
@@frostbite2179 it work and it considered Dishonor fighting style even sith refuse using them. And that saw future thing those future are uncertain remember the chapter 1 star wars?. The future show the little Skywalker will end the sith lord but it doesn't say it would be anakin it's just say (Skywalker) who would end Darth sidious. See this uncertain future bring destruction to jedi order they bring the Skywalker who would be the end of sith lord,it doesn't say anakin would join the darkside and slaughter all jedi at temple. Those future even sith can see them but refuse the relied much on them,since the future is uncertain even they see them.
Another thing to remember is that in duels you typically block a strike with another strike, if you turn your lightsaber off you’re going to get cut in half.
I prefer this explanation, since morality has little to do with actual tactics in combat (just look at history and you will see a lot of underhanded crap being used by every group) and in reality the usage of something is determined on practicality
@@DarkEcho32 you have to keep in mind that no matter how smart you are, you are voluntarily putting yourself in a situation where your opponent has a weapon trying to hit you and you don’t. Not to mention, force users have precognition, your opponent will always know what you’re trying to do before you do it. Turning your lightsaber off is the Star Wars equivalent of spinning in a sword fight (all though Star Wars certainly makes this mistake often as well), you are pretty much always in a better position if you don’t turn your back on your opponent and you don’t turn your lightsaber off.
@@josephthomas8714 the point to master with the style would have is parallel thinking. You can't stand in place if you're going to shut your saber off, which is what causes them to be caught off guard. There's also predictable that has to be kept in mind though, as stale moves are more lethal when your swords are as hot as the sun. That one could be countered with a phaseblade, but the problem with phaseblades choosing when they falter is rather obvious. I can't say I fully disagree or agree with it being a bad style as it comes down to both the wits of the user and how they can improvise as well as the opponent's own wit at seeing through it... I suppose that's something it has in common with throwing a sword and switching to a secondary one, if on a more lethal scale. When it works, it's devastating. Mess up, it's devastating in a different way. Also not directly related, but I'm almost shocked to see a proper discourse with actual points being made. Too many people act like petulant children when debating pros and cons online
It kind of feels like nukes. It's mutually assured destruction. I guess going for the balls is not mutually assured destruction. I feel like no man wishes ball pain even on his worst enemy.
@@kassokilleri2ff I have seen a video on Reddit of the cartel making an aggressive dog chew on a man’s balls while the man is chained with legs wide open
@@zhufortheimpaler4041I mean, yeah. Most Star Wars authors don’t practice sword combat. That being said, nothing about this particular style is uniquely unreasonable. All it appears to be is disabling your blade and reenabling it (without using your hands). It’s basically just an advanced form of repositioning and counterattacking. If the ENTIRE style is: turn off blade->step forward->press hilt against chest dramatically->ignite like we see in the clip, it clearly sucks and you’d die. As a tool to be used tactically as part of existing lightsaber combat, it’s pretty reasonable and would be super good for faking people out. People practicing HEMA or even Fencing would get FUCKED UP if you could make your sword disappear and then instantly reappear directly pointed at their chest at will. Especially when a single touch is a knockout with lightsaber combat.
@@ChunkyTheClown That's if your opponent, in their parry, isn't aiming at you, but your sword. If they're aiming at you, Trakata is worthless--if they're aiming at your sword, Trakata is amazing. If you're good, you aim to riposte in your parry. Trakata would be good against novices, and not masters. I feel it would make sense that the Jedi and Sith look down upon it as unskilled for that reason, and not just because it's "unfair".
@@aidanhendricksen4832not only that, the person you’re fighting against is, at a minimum, mildly precognitive. Turning off your blade will 100% just get you killed.
@@aidanhendricksen4832I definitely think *can be* if u don’t do it too often or too obviously, just like any non-overpowered move in any type of combat (fictional or non fictional). If u flick it off and on quickly during a flurry of attacks there is a *fair chance* (like with any other technique) it catches someone by surprise and slips through their guard (just like any other technique).
@@bladeevins7623I mean war has traditionally been a pretty honor driven thing only in recent years has it taken a turn away from that (thanks Vietnam)
Because those who really practice in sword fights understand it is suicide move. Both will die. Remember, in movies choreography, actors doesn't try to hit each other, they target is blades of each others, because it is look cool. In reality swordsman trying to hit you every moment. So if you shutdown you sword it doesn't mean your opponent will stop as idiot, he will hit you. You made a hole in him he cut you in half.
Cool thing is that when you suddenly remove the thing that is obstructing a laser death sword from slicing you in half out of nowhere it will slice you in half
@@Mango_FawkesIt depends on the timing of the plot and its holes. Plot holes can only exist after the plot is layed out. If it's explained after the fact then it shows cheap writing. A plot hole is like a legal loophole. They do exist and have be "patched with updates" in which case it completely legitimate to refer to it as a plothole.
Yeah cause its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH.
@hacker-tp1gi you're supposed to turn it off in your attack so it can't be blocked Wile your opponent thinks he will block it since nobody uses that technique. You obviously don't turn it off at any moment at every attack or movement you do, that would be stupid, defeats all the purpose of a surprise attack if you literally scream it before you do it
@@thechosenone8288your opponent is already going for you. When you turn off your lightsaber, the opponent will reach you before you reach them. The motion of slashing also deflects your lightsaber away if you turn it back on too soon
@@rumblefish9execution was stupid though she just looks at him, while his saber is off and hers is on, in a perfect place to cut cal directly horizontally. but she just stared at him before she gets thrown. why couldn't cal have just thrown her while his saber was on, significantly reducing the chance of being turned into the next maul corpse
@@FeedMeChaos1because Cal doesn't want to kill Trilla and Trilla doesn't want to kill Cal. It's as simple as that. Cal wants to redeem her, and Trilla wants to break him.
@@patrykszczepanski773 ok fair point on Cal's end, forgot jedi were incompetent like that. Though trilla, still doesn't explain why she just stared at him, instead of maybe dismembering him to take back to the fortress. His elf was completely undefended he was basically asking for it.
@@FeedMeChaos1 it's because Trilla is still conflicted, and she sees Cal as what she could be. Seeing as he's an apprentice to Cere with a big inner darkness. So she wants to get revenge on Cere by breaking Cal too.
Well you don't even need to be predicting it right? Like. Blades don't just lock for no reason. You're both actively aiming cuts at the opponent and pushing against each other. The second their Saber turns off all that momentum carries forwards and cleaves them in two.
Some guy made a video about this exact question. Basically, turning your lightsaber off to bypass the enemy block also means that you aren't blocking their swing anymore as well. And in a sword, fight your enemy won't be aiming to hit your sword but your body or head, which means that you give them an open window to strike you down and they split you in half before you can turn your lightsaber back on or you both die if you manage to do so.
Not really. It leaves you WIDE open, and is ONLY viable if the opponent ONLY defends, because if both blades are coming at each other and yours turns off then nothing's stopping THEIRS. It's suicide, and the last thing you want to train muscle memory for is turning the saber OFF during a fight.
For real. Also you could argue that it’s too risky to use as you’re relying on your enemy blocking you in order to open them up. If the enemy blocks in a way that would cause an attack and you’re saber isn’t there to stop it because you think you’re fancy… Congrats you played yourself
Reality, its dumb. Every block in fighting should be a blow that didn't land. If you pull in your saber when they are about to clash their blow will injurw or kill you.
I'd rather stay with the theory that they don't do it because the timing for the last to come out again is not fast enough to protect you from your opponent's reaction
Honestly they could have made a much simple explanation : when you turn off your lightsaber, there's a short moment when you can't ignite it back Might be good for confusing the enemy, but you can't just re-ignite it and kill him, and for two seconds (roughly) you have no weapon against one of the most powerful ennemy in the galaxy So, yeah, I feel like this explanation is much simpler and would work better
I've heard that argument but it only makes sense with single blades. Duel wielding you could keep one on at all times for defense. You could also use the force to control the 2nd (or 3rd if duel wielding) and flick that one since worst case is a broken saber if the get it between ignitions
The Sith are better then that so they don’t do it but the Jedi thing doing it is UNSPORTSMANLIKE?!? Imagine thinking about sportsmanship in a life or death situation EDIT: Bro guys chill! It’s just a comment
YES IT IS A SKILL ISSUE, because its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH. So you are the one with a skill issue my friend.
I always thought it's also a dangerous maneuver to pull. You aren't just turning off your weapon, you're turning off the only thing that's able to block your opponent's saber. Force users tend to have borderline precognition when it comes to fighting, so the instant you turn off the saber they would slash you because you don't have anything to block with. They could go for the saber itself to disarm you or just one quick motion and you're in pieces. Either way, as soon as you turn off your weapon you're wide open.
You're forgetting about your own precognition. Also, a true master of Tràkata knows how to compensate for the split seconds of vulnerability that the technique provides.
The real reason is that the writers realized this could have been abused so much so they had to invent a contrived story as to why no one has ever attempted to use this on the series.
Yet there are some Trakata masters who use it. The big issue with Trakata is that while it can give you a huge benefit if you're going for a killing blow if your opponent is unaware, it also is a huge detriment if your opponent can react quick enough. Basically, either you kill, or you get killed. There is no middle ground. Its only really worth using if you're already losing in a death battle, because in a winning battle, you wouldnt need it. This is where the "weakness and having a lack of power" and "dishonorable" comes from. Similarly to "stabbing a swordsman when his back is turned". It's admitting you lost and gambled your life in a last ditch effort to win. This mindset is ofcouse a bit useless if you care about living a lot more.
its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by your opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack if they HAVE AN BATTLE IQ, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH. So the honourable one actualy wins
@@hacker-tp1giTrakata isn't shit,it just used when the enemy is on DEFENSE,ie when you're the one pushing them back while they have no time to attack and they are blocking attacks,it not supposed to be used while you both exchange lightsaber hits,it a chance attack It basically a complementary style,and the only 2 people to use it also have mastered all 7 other lightsaber forms on top,as Trakata is a style specifically made to create openings of the sort
battle iq nah just common sense would tell you that it is trash ASF like seriousliy i could see it for like long distance force powers like force lighting to use with 2 hands but like thats diffrent then like useing it in a SABER dual@@hacker-tp1gi
About the gray Yeah. Like the granatethrower in any shootergame. I used it a lot in my learning time for shootergames if i have a player befor me that is way more skilled than i am. Many ways lead to rome. Kind of way dont matter
I can just imagine fighting a jedi, and slaying him using this technique. Then I turn to my left and see the entire bleachers filled with Vader, Sideous, Maul and more just pointing at me and laughing.
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Not kinky that but all do it only for a phew seconds it takes time to reactivate the light saber and in those phew seconds any strong Jedi can end you
Airsoft man
You know since the light saber is.... Super light the best way using the weapon is not treat it like a sword.
Let me explain all you do is start wiggle it or shake it really fast. Nobody can stop you.
They could have said shutting off the blade was slow
Oh dont burn the 🛌 lol
Jedi : "Unfair!"
Sith : "Pussy."
Real
Ong
I agree with both
So you either live as an unfair pussy, or destroyed by an unfair pussy.
[Emotional Damage Taken]
Jedi: "Its dishonourable to use this move"
Sith: "No bitches?"
**flick-flick, flick-flick** "...no opponents."
Sith don't use it either
It's easy to counter if you pay attention, which is why he didn't start off with it and instead pissed off the Sith to keep him distracted long enough to pull it off.
If not, he could have been struck down and countered I'm the brief delay between turning it off & on
@@FiftyStates5 ...yeah?
Oh someone read the top comment too! Congrats
The jedi: dishonor on you, dishonor on your family and dishonor on your cow
The sith: maidenless behavior
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Never thought I'd ever see a dual reference of Mulan and Elden Ring in a Star Wars video.
@@rotciv1492 there are trickles of the best timeline that seeps through every now and then
Jedi: “Dishonorable”
Sith: “Bitchmade”
Outsiders: "Thems the way it be out here"
They can't insult you if they're dead
Jedi: ew* trakata
Sith: chish* trampcutter
😂😂😂
Jedi: *Dishonor the family*
Sith: *Fatherless Technique*
*+ maidenless + ratio*
@@oblivion1924 + L + im better
LITERALLY
@@Drakoverse + u fell off + ur British
@@Drakoverse =midi-chloriless
Jedi: “you bring shame to the Jedi”
Sith: “that some beta shit right there”
So we agree, do we?
Wow what a nice hobby… Jedi light sabers. I bet yall are virgins here
If you rephrase sith you can make it timurn into shit lol
Beta holograms, I think, are as low quality as the physical copies of Jedi Religion that Lucas wrote are compared to the Skywalker Jedi.
I would just be like "says the dying sith/jedi" that's a genius technique and makes me wonder why it took so long to see anyone do that.
Jedi: “not cool bro”
Sith: “no balls”
Star wars fans are lonely sad stupid people with no life.
That's when they realized they aren't that different
“I find you lack of Balls disturbing”
Why they allow gun
Trakata users: cope harder
If Darth Vader approaches me I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT being dishonorable
If Darth Vader approaches you, he'd kill you before you'd be able to use that technique🤣
@@xrtd_kobi yes but lets say he wants a duel without using the force
I fight without honour, and I will fight without honour again tomorrow.
And then he force chokes you and causes your head to implode because you thought turning on and off flashlight was a power move.
@@EvanHt1 he is still an expert duelist
Jedi: that's unfair
Sith: looks like a skill issue
the sith also frowned upon it 😑
@@TheFirstAssEater yeah he's saying you have a skill issue if you have to use it
@@cosmicgamer1262 usually it means that you're not skilled enough to deal with it, which would mean the person saying that would be doing said thing
So since the Sith looked down upon Trakata as well, they would probably be like "that's pussy shit"
😂😂😂😂😂
I use this style
Jedi: "don’t be an asshole"
Sith: "don’t be a pussy"
The modern day political climate be like:
User: don't be alive
@@jazerasor1455 you see dicks fuck pussies, but they also fuck assholes
Miyamoto Musashi: Don't be Dumb, use It. No one Will spare your life.
"Do you know what else I'm trying not to be? Dead."
There’s actual reasons why Trakata wasn’t used
1. The blade deactivation works both ways, if you’re removing your only line of defense you’re easier to kill especially when everyone has precognition
2. The force makes everything harder
3. Lighsaber ignition takes some time
In conclusion: have a second hidden lightsaber Assassin's Creed style
well i have an even better explanation... it is all made up fictional bullshit.
I was think about number one lol like that just leaves an opening to attack
It is not an invincible tecnique, but it also can work if someone really wanted to made it work
@@santiagoteruel4145 like pretty much every martial arts technique
Medieval knight: Thou hast no honour using that hand cannon!
Handcannoneer: Parry this lmao
Pretty good comparison in a way. I'm sure a lot of people complained that firepower was dishonorable when it first came around. Come to think of it, we STILL think that. We still assume they can't "fight like a man".
@@DilatedandTRIGGEREDIt's bad actually knights were the first to start adopting it.
Parry this you filthy casul 🤣
Sith: It shows weakness
Kylo: Hey Dad. *Ignites lightsaber*
And that's why he is a little bich
Rey: Hey Kylo. *Ignites lightsaber*
Yoda: hmm hello young ones, ignites lightsaber
@@SynapsVR Anakin: Young ones? *ignites lightsaber*
Normal Sith: "says the idiot binding himself with a chain of restraint."
Jedi: “It’s unsportsmanlike and dishonourable”
Sith: “Do it if ur gay”
Thats the most Sith-like answer i heard
LET THE -GAYNESS- HATE FLOW THROUGH YOU
@The_Ashura24 bi-SECTED because I just got through your guard
me: these hands are bisexual
I can here palpatien sayin DO IT I’m his DO IT voice in my head
Jedi: "It's unfair"
Sith: "Bitch move"
Grey Jedi: "Leaves you open bro"
Good thing there's no such thing as grey jedi
That technique wouldn't work in real life
Wtf is a grey jedi? I think kenobis hair turned gray after the clone wars, is that what your referring to?
Basically force sensitives who don’t care about any faction
@@Ben-mw9vz basically jedis who quit the order and they dont see the dark side as something utterly forbidden.
"lack of honor"
"Lack of balls"
Jedi: a disrespectful move
Sith: “Fuck you”
According to the Sith rule of two. One of you is going to deliver the ultimate fuck you to the other eventually anyway. And you really don’t care what the jedi thinks at that point anyway.
Jedi: nooo that's unsportsmanlike
Sith: no balls, powerless, weak
Jedi: you dishonor our battle
Sith: quit being a little pussy
I'm pretty sure it's because they can both see on the future, so that kind of misdirection is pointless and leaves you momentarily defenceless
Correction
Jedi and Sith:OP plz nerf
Jedi: it's a cowardly move
Sith: it's a bitch move
Bro the Sith are all about backstabbing, conniving, and using underhanded tactics to win. They would ABSOLUTELY use this move in-universe if they could, the writers just had to come up with a reason why we haven’t seen them use it in any movies
@@landonmathews6111except the Sith are all about power. When one is more powerful than their opponent then cunning is only used as a counter measure. Trickery is used when you are overpowered and out numbered. A Sith that solely relies on cunning is not a powerful Sith.
@@DefinitivelyNotCthulhuTell that to Palpatine, who murdered his master in his sleep and ordered Anakin to kill a group of unarmed children. The Dark side is described by Yoda as the quick and easy route. You can’t seriously expect anyone to believe that a Sith would prefer to lose a fight rather than win it through cunning or trickery
@@DefinitivelyNotCthulhuno they aint they are litterally so generically evil its not even funny
Plus if using this lacks power then choking someone out using the force etc is the same as that also avoids combat and can wipe a person out i one go with less risk of fail than using this lightsaber fighting technique in the video
Force choke is litterally a bigger pussy move than this fighting strat 🤣🤣🤣
@@landonmathews6111while true Palpatine would have been considered losing his way as a sith, he was building an empire, which was not the siths aim, it was to create an all powerful sith
Jedi: unportsmanship
Sith: if you do it your gay
You're*
@@brandchannelbackup9259 🤓 ERM actually
@@brandchannelbackup9259 your gay
@@Mike-sp7zv my gay
@@tchort6699 your gay, it's escaping
The Jedi: “Its dishonorable and unsportsmanlike”
The words of somebody with a lightsaber sized hole in their chest
Exactly 😂 I don't care what any of them says if I'm in light saber duals I'm spamming that shit infact I'm developing an entire fighting style around it
Just logic through it... you'd get cut in half if you tried this morentyan once. Get your hand chopped off at leadt. Do da Dooku
Brave words for the dead guy.
@@MonteAdorableMax only if you get predictable with it. Course if you want true unpredictability you need a phase saber
@@MonteAdorableMaxhonestly I think the best way of utilising this style is with a double-sided lightsaber because once you turn off one side you then be able to use the other side to attack with you can also be tricky with it and attack with the side that you just turned off in order to trick them honestly I feel like you just have to be creative to make it work well
Jedi: It’s dishonor
Sith: It’s gay
Nice profile pic👍
😂😂
Sith *would* shitpost
So, if someone does it, they'll be an enemy to both Jedi and Sith.
@@monk3110 they would *sithpost*
I love that both the Jedi and the Sith agreed that it was just a dick move all around.
Darth Vader: I might have killed a bunch of kids, but even I think that’s some bullshit.
Same thing happened with flick the lightsabers off and on.
@@andrewspears8891 that is literally what the video was about the technique you just referenced is the video
@@lucy-oh1rhjust about to say that
@user-sr5gd2ht9p Okay, video did a poor job at the visual display of flicking the lightsaber off and on.
Sith and Jedi:
*literally disagree on everything
Also Sith and Jedi:
“Only a little b*tch would do that!”
It's also very ineffective. When clashing, you're not aiming at the opponent's sword, but at the opponent themselves, so the moment you turn off your saber the opponent's gonna fly straight at you.
That's...not really how momentum works. The style relies on turning it off right before your blade would connect while also avoiding their's. The effectiveness therefore depends partially on the opponent, partially on your ability to avoid a slash, and partially on whether you're foolish enough to become predictable when using it. A phase blade can take care of the predictability to a point but since you don't actually control when it turns off you'd need a lot of skill to compensate.
@@DarkEcho32 Hm. I mean, I guess that makes sense. I keep forgetting that a lightsaber wouldn't really weigh anything, nor would it require good force put behind it to cut anything. Therefore dodging and attacking would be much, much more effective than with a normal sword.
In addition to what previous guy said, Trakata is extremely effective in attack, much more than in defense - as the moment your enemy try to parry or block your attack you bypass his sword
The real issue with Trakata is that it only really works with the element of surprise. You lose valuable time deactivating and reactivating your saber, and, if your opponent sees it coming, they can easily take advantage of the temporary defenselessness and strike first. In other words, it's similar to any cheap tactic- once you learn how to counter it, it's strictly worse than a more refined technique
Man, if Lightsaber users weren't stupid, the war would have been over much quicker
Imagine worrying about sportsmanship in a life or death battle
yeah it's like Geneva convention
I'm sure he meant honorable. Same thing.
Sith: “ lets dual filthy Jed- HEY THATS CHEATING “
Jedi: “ wth- were in a death battle why would we care about this?!? “
Imagine being an honarable man
@@Calijay707 Best kind of man.
Jedi: "thats not fair🥺"
Sith: "dont be a little bitch bro"
Fight like a real Jedi ong 💀
Gray Jedi:
Like camping in COD
Well, if they're all dead, because Grandmaster-bitch Liam the unsportsmanlike has killed them, they can't blame me for being.. well.. a unfair bitch anymore. 😊
Quite ironic coming from the people who created a weapon which can destroy planets instantly
“Not Honourable” - The Jedi
“A Pussy Move” - The Sith
*shakes hands
Both are right.
Wow...... The only time I see both Jedi and Sith agree on something
So effective lol
Bro if it’s me or them which one y’all think I’m choosing lol 😂
Jedi: “no sportsmanship”
Sith: “no maidens”
Jedi: “it’s dishonorable”
Sith: “Bitch move”
Me: *"Skill issue"*
Bedlam Raider: Hey as long as it works
@@JojoDrip New gen Force users be like
It does leave you open for a while so it’s most likely going to kill toy
@@honooryu5374 get gud scrub
Jedi: “That’s just a dick move, don’t do that.”
Sith: “That’s some pussy shit, I’ll put you down myself if I catch you pulling that.”
Me: i dont care if it gets the job done im using it
@@dead-a-genm7538 "Dies because gay"- U, Master of balls
Jedi: Sowwee Master… ;-;
Sith: STRIKE ME DOWN THEN!
*Turns off light saber and kills with pussy move*
Germany when their enemies bring a 12 gage to war
Me: Shuddup both of you are dead and I’m not.
“Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead.” - Darth Revan
OOOOOOOO
Thats Darth Banes qoute not Darth Revan
And from Javik in Mass Effect:
"Stand amongst the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer."
Bioware still got some zingers
I now want this to be part of Darth Revan’s fighting style. If anyone lore wise could use the Jedi equivalent of Iaido and make it look insanely cool? It’d be him. Makes sense as well. Not quite a Sith not quite a Jedi… it’d be more than in keeping with his personality. Not to mention Revan was strong in the force, perhaps almost as strong as Anakin but he was allegedly not quite as talented with a light saber. A fighter like that may embrace techniques others would find distasteful in pursuit of victory and survival.
@@Vectivuss It’s true Bane popularized this quote, Bane found it in Revan’s holocron.
“Man, I don’t give a fuck bout your damn morals, these bills ain’t gonna pay themselves.”
-Toji Fushiguro, probably.
And that’s why he died twice
"You beat me with a technique that lacks honor, no fair!"
"Well, my dishonorable ass is still standing, ain't it?"
“Yeah, yeah. Come talk to me if you’re still alive in the next few seconds.”
That one Sith in the corner: “Doesn’t make you any less of a bitch.”
The mandalorians in the corner waiting to fill everyone with lead.
"You don't fight with honor!"
"No....👇he did."
@@estebanramirez1178 Well, he gets slain too, then.
Long story short Jedi think you're dishonorable if you do it and the Sith think you're a little bitch if you do it.
Also it leaves you vulnerable if the opponent can attack fast enough
And Rey did it when she stabbed Kylo, so she's a dishonorable little b***h
That is the clearest and simplest explanation. Couldn't have said it better.
At least they agreed on something.
It logically doesn't really work either, if you're blocking a swing and then use it you either get hit by the swing since you're no longer blocking it or you dodge the swing and land your hit but you could've just dodged in the first place no?
Sith: “You’re a coward”
Jedi: “You’re unfair”
Me: “YOU are dead”
No big soop rice
@@captpopper7219 Come on kids, sandviches for all!
no wrong .
Sith: "Your mom is gay" when someone use that technique.
Why are people acting like this would work? The people who are fighting have precognition they can see the future. They are going to capitalize on that split second of your light saber not being on and you are going to be cut from cock to sternum doing a massive split.
@@frostbite2179 it work and it considered Dishonor fighting style even sith refuse using them.
And that saw future thing those future are uncertain remember the chapter 1 star wars?.
The future show the little Skywalker will end the sith lord but it doesn't say it would be anakin it's just say (Skywalker) who would end Darth sidious.
See this uncertain future bring destruction to jedi order they bring the Skywalker who would be the end of sith lord,it doesn't say anakin would join the darkside and slaughter all jedi at temple.
Those future even sith can see them but refuse the relied much on them,since the future is uncertain even they see them.
Another thing to remember is that in duels you typically block a strike with another strike, if you turn your lightsaber off you’re going to get cut in half.
So basically this technique is you either do it right thr 1st time cause you will never get a second chance
I prefer this explanation, since morality has little to do with actual tactics in combat (just look at history and you will see a lot of underhanded crap being used by every group) and in reality the usage of something is determined on practicality
Only if you're not smart enough to move when doing it
@@DarkEcho32 you have to keep in mind that no matter how smart you are, you are voluntarily putting yourself in a situation where your opponent has a weapon trying to hit you and you don’t. Not to mention, force users have precognition, your opponent will always know what you’re trying to do before you do it.
Turning your lightsaber off is the Star Wars equivalent of spinning in a sword fight (all though Star Wars certainly makes this mistake often as well), you are pretty much always in a better position if you don’t turn your back on your opponent and you don’t turn your lightsaber off.
@@josephthomas8714 the point to master with the style would have is parallel thinking. You can't stand in place if you're going to shut your saber off, which is what causes them to be caught off guard. There's also predictable that has to be kept in mind though, as stale moves are more lethal when your swords are as hot as the sun.
That one could be countered with a phaseblade, but the problem with phaseblades choosing when they falter is rather obvious. I can't say I fully disagree or agree with it being a bad style as it comes down to both the wits of the user and how they can improvise as well as the opponent's own wit at seeing through it... I suppose that's something it has in common with throwing a sword and switching to a secondary one, if on a more lethal scale. When it works, it's devastating. Mess up, it's devastating in a different way.
Also not directly related, but I'm almost shocked to see a proper discourse with actual points being made. Too many people act like petulant children when debating pros and cons online
Sith: "Weakness is forbidden"
Jedi: *"SO UNCIVILISED"*
It's the equivalent of a gentlemans agreement to not go for the balls
^this ❤️
It kind of feels like nukes. It's mutually assured destruction.
I guess going for the balls is not mutually assured destruction. I feel like no man wishes ball pain even on his worst enemy.
@@kassokilleri2ff fuck that if you've literally earned the term enemy from me, I'm making sure you can't procreate lol
@@kassokilleri2ff I have seen a video on Reddit of the cartel making an aggressive dog chew on a man’s balls while the man is chained with legs wide open
@@kassokilleri2ff my point is that your last line is wrong
so it's basically the camping in a corner with a shotgun of lightsabers
If it works then it works
Jedi trench gun
Underrated comment lol
Honestly neither a Jedi nor a Sith can cry about dishonor or weakness when they're dead on the ground. Trakata style for the win!
its more like the Trakata user s dead, because this stuff was imagined by people who never had a sword in hands or trained with one.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041I mean, yeah. Most Star Wars authors don’t practice sword combat. That being said, nothing about this particular style is uniquely unreasonable. All it appears to be is disabling your blade and reenabling it (without using your hands). It’s basically just an advanced form of repositioning and counterattacking.
If the ENTIRE style is: turn off blade->step forward->press hilt against chest dramatically->ignite like we see in the clip, it clearly sucks and you’d die. As a tool to be used tactically as part of existing lightsaber combat, it’s pretty reasonable and would be super good for faking people out.
People practicing HEMA or even Fencing would get FUCKED UP if you could make your sword disappear and then instantly reappear directly pointed at their chest at will. Especially when a single touch is a knockout with lightsaber combat.
@@ChunkyTheClown That's if your opponent, in their parry, isn't aiming at you, but your sword. If they're aiming at you, Trakata is worthless--if they're aiming at your sword, Trakata is amazing.
If you're good, you aim to riposte in your parry. Trakata would be good against novices, and not masters. I feel it would make sense that the Jedi and Sith look down upon it as unskilled for that reason, and not just because it's "unfair".
@@FarremShamistBecause it's way too dangerous and situational and requires way too much skill to use practically in every situation.
@@Ostr0 It's not necessarily that it requires way too much skill, in that it tricks novices. Otherwise, it IS way too dangerous to use.
I like how both the Sith and the Jedi decided "Man that's totally cheating, don't do that."
nah lil buddy people that made starwars decided it.
@@kocimietek4771also maybe because it isn’t a viable technique
@@thefoolwise262it is not a viable technique, it is suicidal, everyone here is forgetting what stops the other guy’s blade from hitting you
@@aidanhendricksen4832not only that, the person you’re fighting against is, at a minimum, mildly precognitive. Turning off your blade will 100% just get you killed.
@@aidanhendricksen4832I definitely think *can be* if u don’t do it too often or too obviously, just like any non-overpowered move in any type of combat (fictional or non fictional). If u flick it off and on quickly during a flurry of attacks there is a *fair chance* (like with any other technique) it catches someone by surprise and slips through their guard (just like any other technique).
Sith: "It's a sign of weakness"
Jedi: "It's not honorable"
Me: "I'm alive and you aren't"
Dark Grey Jedi?
fr
No one would know if it was actually a honorable fight if its 1v1 and no one or everyone around is dead
Then you get ganged the next day and die
here before it blows up :)
“Hey can you defeat that sith who’s murdering all of those children?”
“Nah”
“Couldn’t you use trakata”
“I could but it’d be unsportsmanlike”
I like to imagine after every fight it's like the scene from Monty python where the knight gets his arms and legs cut off
Imagine tryna be a good sport during a war
@@bladeevins7623I mean war has traditionally been a pretty honor driven thing only in recent years has it taken a turn away from that (thanks Vietnam)
@@RustyPancake53 If my goal is death to prove who has a better army then damn the technique.
@@bladeevins7623 very Hitler of you
Finally, something the Sith and The Jedi agree on
Sith and jedi saw this and both agreed it was “bitch made.”
Lol
Because those who really practice in sword fights understand it is suicide move. Both will die. Remember, in movies choreography, actors doesn't try to hit each other, they target is blades of each others, because it is look cool. In reality swordsman trying to hit you every moment. So if you shutdown you sword it doesn't mean your opponent will stop as idiot, he will hit you. You made a hole in him he cut you in half.
@@user-rh4dd8hj5n very true tho
Lmao
As a Jedi I agree 💯
Jedi: *This person has some mother issues.*
Sith: *This person has some father issues.*
Grey Jedi : I know and I don't give a fuck cause you're both already dead..... Retards....
This person's name is Batman.
@@VanVeniVidiVici LOL
@@VanVeniVidiVici you did him dirty
@@VanVeniVidiVici Eren Yeager: 👀
“You may say I’m weak and unfair, but youre dead and I’m alive”
"You played dirty and you still died? Pathetic."
fr
disgraceful pathetic fuck.
no, you'd be dead too
@@LetzGetShwifty96 yup
he'd be dead
losers like him can't improve lmao
Jedi:”it’s dishonorable!”
Sith:”if you do it you’re gay”
jedi: it’s unsportsmanlike
sith: do it and you’re gay
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Fr💀
“Dew it, Dew it and become homosexual”
Imagine Vader doing it and Sidious makes him wear pink for it. Pinkth Vader
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck" -John Steinbeck
What So you punch someone in the balls and call it manly ? Your obviously pussy ass bitch
Very true.
"Hey, no fair!" - guy who's dead
sums this up perfectly😂
There are force ghosts, so you are probably right.
Kind of sad
*also guy who's dead* ha ha, I've become a force stronger than you could ever imagine
-Grenade inside the belly of that ghost pirate guy from pirates of the carribean
“Unsportsmanlike”
Meanwhile Obi-wan cutting anakin to peices
the move was so op they really had to pull out some lore out of their asses to cover this massive plot hole
Cool thing is that when you suddenly remove the thing that is obstructing a laser death sword from slicing you in half out of nowhere it will slice you in half
@@northstar1727look at the video again. The move is done when they attack and not when they defend.
Hey yeah, it's almost like plotholes are void when filled in with PLOT.
@@Mango_FawkesIt depends on the timing of the plot and its holes. Plot holes can only exist after the plot is layed out. If it's explained after the fact then it shows cheap writing. A plot hole is like a legal loophole. They do exist and have be "patched with updates" in which case it completely legitimate to refer to it as a plothole.
Pretty much, Novelty is a hell of a drug.
Jedi: "no honor"
Sith: "no balls"
Grey jedi: "you dead as hell"
Yeah cause its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH.
@hacker-tp1gi you're supposed to turn it off in your attack so it can't be blocked Wile your opponent thinks he will block it since nobody uses that technique. You obviously don't turn it off at any moment at every attack or movement you do, that would be stupid, defeats all the purpose of a surprise attack if you literally scream it before you do it
@@thechosenone8288your opponent is already going for you. When you turn off your lightsaber, the opponent will reach you before you reach them. The motion of slashing also deflects your lightsaber away if you turn it back on too soon
@@hacker-tp1giit’s not for Defense goofy
@@Joopy491that’s an actual response, but we do not know how fast or light the sabers are
Jedi: "It's dishonorable!"
Sith: "It's a bitch move."
Trakata enjoyers: "Hey, as long as it works."
Lol
Trakata enjoyers means greys
What is the move they are talking about?
Can't shit talk trakata if u die to it
It will not work. Ask youself why he didn't hit him and cut in half, when he shutdown sword?
“No honor”
“No balls”
“Womp womp”
Jedi: "Dishonorable act"
Sith: "Do it and you're gae"
Jedi: “Dishonest”
Sith: “Coward”
Cal: “I see this as an absolute win”
Cal used it against Trila
@@rumblefish9execution was stupid though she just looks at him, while his saber is off and hers is on, in a perfect place to cut cal directly horizontally. but she just stared at him before she gets thrown.
why couldn't cal have just thrown her while his saber was on, significantly reducing the chance of being turned into the next maul corpse
@@FeedMeChaos1because Cal doesn't want to kill Trilla and Trilla doesn't want to kill Cal. It's as simple as that. Cal wants to redeem her, and Trilla wants to break him.
@@patrykszczepanski773 ok fair point on Cal's end, forgot jedi were incompetent like that.
Though trilla, still doesn't explain why she just stared at him, instead of maybe dismembering him to take back to the fortress. His elf was completely undefended he was basically asking for it.
@@FeedMeChaos1 it's because Trilla is still conflicted, and she sees Cal as what she could be. Seeing as he's an apprentice to Cere with a big inner darkness. So she wants to get revenge on Cere by breaking Cal too.
It was also uncommon because it's risky, if you time the shut off wrong or your opponent anticipates it, you'll get sliced instead.
That's what I was thinking. A defensive move can easily turn into a flick to cut your head off
I like this explanation a lot more
True true
Well you don't even need to be predicting it right? Like. Blades don't just lock for no reason. You're both actively aiming cuts at the opponent and pushing against each other. The second their Saber turns off all that momentum carries forwards and cleaves them in two.
Imagine caring about imaginary weapons and fighting techniques.
Jedi: it’s to aggressive
Sith: it’s too cheap
Jedi: It's unfair
Sith: It's for pussies.
Sith:Skill Issue
@JaydenDicritanAshol141 dark saber users: skill issue
Miyagi do vs Cobra kai
@@Senkara true
So true lol
Jedi and Sith: We got a glowing sword, at least let us play with it 'til we actually die from it.
Tbh this prolly it.
Some guy made a video about this exact question. Basically, turning your lightsaber off to bypass the enemy block also means that you aren't blocking their swing anymore as well. And in a sword, fight your enemy won't be aiming to hit your sword but your body or head, which means that you give them an open window to strike you down and they split you in half before you can turn your lightsaber back on or you both die if you manage to do so.
Jedi: That’s dishonorable
Sith: fuck you, that’s unsportsmanlike
Those who actually use it: I still have all my limbs-
Well, until someone else does it to them.
They'll retain limbs if they are just fighting a noob Jedi. Any master would slice them the moment they turn off thier Saber.
Anakin has left the chat
Not really. It leaves you WIDE open, and is ONLY viable if the opponent ONLY defends, because if both blades are coming at each other and yours turns off then nothing's stopping THEIRS. It's suicide, and the last thing you want to train muscle memory for is turning the saber OFF during a fight.
@@tyrongkojy oops miss read, sorry about that, ignore that one.
Jedi- you're dishonorable
Sith- you're a pussy
Reality- you're a plot hole
For real.
Also you could argue that it’s too risky to use as you’re relying on your enemy blocking you in order to open them up.
If the enemy blocks in a way that would cause an attack and you’re saber isn’t there to stop it because you think you’re fancy… Congrats you played yourself
Reality, its dumb.
Every block in fighting should be a blow that didn't land. If you pull in your saber when they are about to clash their blow will injurw or kill you.
Dishonourable*
I'd rather stay with the theory that they don't do it because the timing for the last to come out again is not fast enough to protect you from your opponent's reaction
Honestly they could have made a much simple explanation : when you turn off your lightsaber, there's a short moment when you can't ignite it back
Might be good for confusing the enemy, but you can't just re-ignite it and kill him, and for two seconds (roughly) you have no weapon against one of the most powerful ennemy in the galaxy
So, yeah, I feel like this explanation is much simpler and would work better
The Jedi: You have no honor!!!
The Sith: You get no bitches!!!
But... I am alive... So?
Might I introduce you to the concept of working smarter, not harder.
😂😂😂😂
Real Reason: any half-decent duelist will shred you, before you re-ignite your Saber. 😅😂
I've heard that argument but it only makes sense with single blades. Duel wielding you could keep one on at all times for defense.
You could also use the force to control the 2nd (or 3rd if duel wielding) and flick that one since worst case is a broken saber if the get it between ignitions
Jedi: “NOOOOO THATS NOT FAIR!!!!”
Sith: “skill issue”
My inner bully Maguire after I've won: "I missed the part where that my problem"
@@actorhassanevans1475 fr
Sith: It shows weakness.
Jedi:It's too unsportsmanlike.
Yes, we know, we all watched the video
The Sith are better then that so they don’t do it but the Jedi thing doing it is UNSPORTSMANLIKE?!? Imagine thinking about sportsmanship in a life or death situation
EDIT: Bro guys chill! It’s just a comment
@@Ashlego I agree
Non-Force User: Its Cheating
@@Ashlego you know Samurai were real right?
The Jedi: "Dishonorable"
The Sith: "Little Bitch..."
Me: "Skill issue"
YES IT IS A SKILL ISSUE, because its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH. So you are the one with a skill issue my friend.
@@hacker-tp1gi I have a skill issue with my light Saber that I have. Yes.
@@hacker-tp1gi nuh uh
@@hacker-tp1giHow has he still not noticed it’s for offense💀💀💀
@@hacker-tp1giimagine getting mad over a fictional fighting style using fictional weapons, grow up kid
“Nah bro don’t fight like that, that’s cheating”
Me: "lol, lmao"
Cheat to win when in combat 😊
@@cripplers8 bro sounding like a Klingon. "In war nothing is more honorable than victory"
“I’m gonna tell mom!”
@@cripplers8 Only pussies need to cheat
Mandalorians: if it gets the job done then it works
This is the way
@@theamnz5285 This is the Way.
This is the way.
This is the way
I swear those meat bags and hk47 were the only reasonable things in that star wars galaxy
Sith: “Oh that cowardly technique?”
Meanwhile:
*Literally showers them in bolts of lightning*
I'll be the "coward " sitting on a pile of sith corpses xD
Yeah but thats a flex and it shows how powerful they are in the force.
It’s shocking I know
Unlimited POWERRRR
there is still a way to counter that but... "Try to counter the tip of my shoes on your nutsack" -probably the best jedi master
I always thought it's also a dangerous maneuver to pull. You aren't just turning off your weapon, you're turning off the only thing that's able to block your opponent's saber. Force users tend to have borderline precognition when it comes to fighting, so the instant you turn off the saber they would slash you because you don't have anything to block with. They could go for the saber itself to disarm you or just one quick motion and you're in pieces. Either way, as soon as you turn off your weapon you're wide open.
You're forgetting about your own precognition.
Also, a true master of Tràkata knows how to compensate for the split seconds of vulnerability that the technique provides.
Jedi: "This is unethical and dishonourable!! We will not tolerate such an act!!!"
Sith: "Pussy"
Isn't it the same? Being unethical and dishonorable is a pussy move.
Jedi: Not good!
Sith: no balls
Me: what ya gonna do 'bout it 😎
Sith: go sicko mode
Jedi: it’s a dishonorable move
Sith: SKILL ISSUE
Edit: Dang!! Thanks y’all for the likes! I’ve never gotten so many before… 😂
Methinks a dead Jedi or sith can't complain
fr 🤣🤣🤣
Thats so fkin stupif
Lol
@@octoberwildsmoke9065lmao!!
Staying alive is more important than being sportsmanslike
An unending war with absolute savagery and countless war crimes committed, but everyone still agrees "That shit's cheap".
Yeah but Palps is so slimey and coward like he had to poison his master so I doubt he would avoid using this tactic
Literally real life wars…. Some thing are „war crimes“
Yo JC!
@@j.p.6228 Mr. P, Good to see you.
kinda similar to war now.
everybody has the capability to produce horrifying chemical weaponry,
but everyone agrees that its just fucked up
Jedi:Dishonorable
Sith:Weak
Master Joe: In it to win it
😆
In mortal Kombat you'll get finish
I think Cal Kestis uses it against Vader
Who’s master joe?
@@K_J_Coleman_Composer
Cal Kestis does use it but against the Second Sister, not Darth Vader.
Jedi: Oh no we shouldn't do that, that is unfair we should be goodsports
Sith: Momma didn't raise no bitch
Dog, if my life is on the line and I’m dead in one hit, I’m using any underhanded tactic necessary
Jedi: Your dishonoring the Jedi!
Sith: Grow some balls and fight like a man
The Jedi: It is uncultured and uncivilised.
The Sith: You are a Weakling.
Mando: or just smarter..
The real reason is that the writers realized this could have been abused so much so they had to invent a contrived story as to why no one has ever attempted to use this on the series.
Lmfao that about sums it up
Yet there are some Trakata masters who use it. The big issue with Trakata is that while it can give you a huge benefit if you're going for a killing blow if your opponent is unaware, it also is a huge detriment if your opponent can react quick enough.
Basically, either you kill, or you get killed. There is no middle ground. Its only really worth using if you're already losing in a death battle, because in a winning battle, you wouldnt need it.
This is where the "weakness and having a lack of power" and "dishonorable" comes from. Similarly to "stabbing a swordsman when his back is turned". It's admitting you lost and gambled your life in a last ditch effort to win.
This mindset is ofcouse a bit useless if you care about living a lot more.
@@Predated2 No
Yeah imagine caring for honor when you killed a bunch of child, the honor argument is bs
@@Predated2 spent all that time for no one to care💀
“Unsportsmanlike” ok but you died?
There are two types of people in a fight. The combatant who values sportsmanship and honor, and the combatant who survives the fight.
there is the third.
*the one who values honor and survives.*
if you're fighting dirty you're not fighting.
you're cucking.
The Mike Tyson in question:
its a trash ability because the opponent is aiming for YOU NOT THE SABER so by turning it off you get rid OF THE ONLY DEFENSE you have given an opening to attack which would be used by your opponent WELL BEFORE you turn it back on to attack if they HAVE AN BATTLE IQ, In short TRAKATA IS TRASH. So the honourable one actualy wins
@@hacker-tp1giTrakata isn't shit,it just used when the enemy is on DEFENSE,ie when you're the one pushing them back while they have no time to attack and they are blocking attacks,it not supposed to be used while you both exchange lightsaber hits,it a chance attack
It basically a complementary style,and the only 2 people to use it also have mastered all 7 other lightsaber forms on top,as Trakata is a style specifically made to create openings of the sort
battle iq nah just common sense would tell you that it is trash ASF like seriousliy i could see it for like long distance force powers like force lighting to use with 2 hands but like thats diffrent then like useing it in a SABER dual@@hacker-tp1gi
The short answer
The Jedi claim it is considered to be a
“Dick move”
LOL
And the Sith claim it is considered to be a “Bitch move”. Basically “no balls”
Life is better than death
"You don't fight with honour!"
"No" (gestures downward) "...he did" - Bronn
perfectly said.
Tf lebron gotta do wit this
Exactly, I don't know bout yall but if shit seems ugly I'm not giving a fuck about being honorable, I prefer living
Yes, GoT quote of the year 😂
@@3JJ3Tell me you're slow without telling me.
Its a quote from a dude named "Bron" in game of thrones
“A fight is about who’s left standing, nothing else” -Unknown
"You don't fight with honor!"
"No, he did"
Always gotta give bron some love when talking about being underhanded
Always gotta give bron some love when talking about being underhanded
@@Nameandaddresswithheldthis is getting of hand. Now there are 2 of them!
@@billjoe8734lol
@@billjoe8734lol
Jedi: "Rude and unfair"
Sith: "Man ion wanna talk to yo bitchass"
The grey: "If it's a feature it's surely meant to be used"
About the gray
Yeah. Like the granatethrower in any shootergame. I used it a lot in my learning time for shootergames if i have a player befor me that is way more skilled than i am. Many ways lead to rome. Kind of way dont matter
Even the Sith have standards
Sith standards are just "Don't be a bitch"
@@lj_aderyn yeah pretty much 😂
Professionals have standards
@@chrisp9859 beat me to it
They have a code of standards actually
I can just imagine fighting a jedi, and slaying him using this technique. Then I turn to my left and see the entire bleachers filled with Vader, Sideous, Maul and more just pointing at me and laughing.
So everyone has a problem with a lightsaber technique but no one bats an eye at Anakin Skywalker's daycare center
If Jack Sparrow were a Sith/Jedi/Drunk Force crazy person in Star Wars, he'd be the main user of this technique.
Soooo, if Hondo had a lightsaber?
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“Drunk force” that’s about right
Sith: Trakata is too weak and desperate, like the Jedi.
Jedi: Trakata is too deceptive and dishonorable, like the Sith.
Greys: It works
I'm definitely the grey. I don't like dying.
Greys got the right idea
If it works, it works.
Greys for the win.
If I was force-user in the star wars universe, im going grey all the way, they probably live longer than either of the two
Too effectively
One of the rare times they both agreed not to do something
Jedi- "No respect"
Sith- "You little bi-"